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DIDDY HO-HO-HO: COMBS' FIRST CHRISTMAS BEHIND BARS, JAY-Z PANIC · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Diddy Ho Ho Ho comes first Christmas behind bars this
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Speaker 2: while there is a j Z panic going on.
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Speaker 3: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 3: being with us.
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Speaker 4: He didd He's tangled web of sex, abuse and drugs deepened,
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Speaker 4: says Beyonce's famous rapper Hubby jay Z is named in
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Speaker 4: a hot new lawsuit.
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Speaker 3: Why would anybody call a lawsuit where a then thirteen
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Speaker 3: year old girl claims she was raped?
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Speaker 1: Why is that hot? I don't know that. I agree
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Speaker 1: with that, well I do. I disagree with that.
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Speaker 3: If these allegations are true, there's heinous.
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Speaker 1: But are they true?
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Speaker 3: How did jay Z get pulled into the Diddy nightmare?
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Speaker 3: First of all, take a listen to this.
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Speaker 5: Another shocking revelation in the scandal is Sean Ditty Combs case,
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Speaker 5: now officially including jay Z in a civil lawsuit, Sean
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Speaker 5: Dittycombs and jay Z standing cues of raping a thirteen
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Speaker 5: year old girl at an after party for the two
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Speaker 5: thousand MTV Video Music Awards. The thirteen year old at
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Speaker 5: the time says she had been trying to get into
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Speaker 5: the VMAs by standing outside of Radio City Music Hall.
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Speaker 5: And walking up to limousines that we're bringing guests into
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Speaker 5: the venue. It works, as she is invited to an
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Speaker 5: after party by a limo driver who claims to work
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Speaker 5: for Combs. He tells her she fit. What did he
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Speaker 5: was looking for?
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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on just a moment.
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Speaker 3: This is how jay Z has been dragged into aka
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Speaker 3: Shawn Carter, dragged into the Didty nightmare and just in
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Speaker 3: time for Christmas.
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Speaker 1: Now let me stress.
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Speaker 3: The jay Z aka Sean Carter insists the claims he
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Speaker 3: had anything to do with raping a thirteen year old
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Speaker 3: little girl our false.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what is the rest of the story.
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Speaker 3: The little girl is standing outside Radio City Music Halsee.
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Speaker 3: When I think of that, I think about taking the
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Speaker 3: twins to go see the Rockets Christmas Show.
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Speaker 1: But according to this girl, then thirteen, that is not
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Speaker 1: at all what happened. Listen.
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Speaker 6: The Jane Doe is handed a non disclosure agreement to
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Speaker 6: sign and a drink she believes is spiked. In minutes,
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Speaker 6: she hears Diddy utter words she can still hear to
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Speaker 6: this day. The plaintiff claims Combs approaches her with a
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Speaker 6: crazed look in his eyes, telling her you are ready
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Speaker 6: to party, the words she can't forget. She accuses Colmbs
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Speaker 6: of throwing her toward a wall, causing her to fall.
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Speaker 6: She gets up and stumbles. Combs grabs her and throws
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Speaker 6: her on the bed, and jay Z holds her down
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Speaker 6: and vaginally rapes her while Combs and another A list
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Speaker 6: celebrity watch again.
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Speaker 3: Sean Carter aka jay Z, better known as Beyonce's husband,
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Speaker 3: is sim he is innocent, and he is demanding that
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Speaker 3: the idea of the then thirteen year old girl be revealed. Okay,
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Speaker 3: straight out to Kella Brantley joining us, our investigative reporter
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Speaker 3: at lawds with Dailymail dot Com and host of the
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Speaker 3: Trial of Diddy.
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Speaker 1: Another bombshell.
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Speaker 3: Okay, as if it's not bad enough that a thirteen
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Speaker 3: year old little girl, then thirteen year.
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Speaker 1: Old little girl is making this claim.
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Speaker 3: Jay Z is dragged into this because Kella marked my words.
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Speaker 3: Prosecutors are looking right now for any supporting evidence that
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Speaker 3: Sean Carter aka jay Z was there that night at
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Speaker 3: the after party following the VMA's and if they can
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Speaker 3: establish that jay Z was in fact there that night, they're.
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Speaker 1: Going to be looking to question him. What do we know,
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Speaker 1: Killa absolutely Nancy.
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Speaker 7: I mean, what we know so far is that this
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Speaker 7: federal lawsuit, it was originally filed in October, and it
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Speaker 7: was just refiled this week to include jay Z, to
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Speaker 7: name him Sean Carter. But what's interesting here is that
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Speaker 7: it states that there was another high profile female celebrity
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Speaker 7: who stood by and watched. So the question here, of
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Speaker 7: course is who is she? And like you said, that,
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Speaker 7: prosecutors are going to be looking for evidence, looking to
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Speaker 7: corroborate that jay Z was in fact there that night.
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Speaker 7: And one thing that we're definitely sure that they're going
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Speaker 7: to be looking for is who this woman is.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're absolutely right.
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Speaker 3: The mystery surrounding a female celebrity beat bias in brother.
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Speaker 3: So let me understand this, Caleb Brantley, for those of
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Speaker 3: you just joining us, not only is Diddy Ho Ho
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Speaker 3: Ho having his first Christmas behind bars, now, somehow jay
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Speaker 3: Z has been dragged into this whole nightmare. And if
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Speaker 3: jay Z he is dragged into this whole nightmare, Beyonce
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Speaker 3: is dragged into this whole nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Not that she was at the party, not that she had.
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Speaker 3: Anything to do with this, but his PR nightmare is
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Speaker 3: her PR nightmare.
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Speaker 1: His problem is her problem.
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Speaker 3: Long story short, the then thirteen year old little girl says,
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Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong, Kila. She's outside Radio City
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Speaker 3: Music Hall trying to get in to the VMA's and
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Speaker 3: somehow ends up getting invited to the VMA after party.
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Speaker 3: That Sean Carter, jay Z is there, that Comb's Diddy
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Speaker 3: is there, That she's given an NDA non disclosure agreement
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Speaker 3: to sign, given a drink which she now thinks was spiked,
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Speaker 3: and then was raped with Carter, who denies it vehemently,
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Speaker 3: Combs aka Diddy and an unknown mystery female celebrity standing
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Speaker 3: there watching.
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Speaker 7: That's correct, Nancy, that's what the filing alleges. Of course,
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Speaker 7: it's all allegations at this point. But what he says
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Speaker 7: that's very disturbing is that once she felt woozy after
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Speaker 7: taking a drink, that Diddy allegedly said you're ready to party,
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Speaker 7: and that Sean Diddy, Combes and jay Z actually took
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Speaker 7: turns raping her while that third celebrity woman watched on,
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Speaker 7: And it was only until she fought back and hit
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Speaker 7: Diddy in the neck and she ran away, went to
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Speaker 7: a gas station and then her father picked her up.
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Speaker 7: So that's the whole story there from what this Anonymous
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Speaker 7: Jane Doo is telling us.
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Speaker 3: Joining me special guest Rob Shooter, host of Naughty but
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Speaker 3: Nice podcast and former publicist for Seawan Combe's, author of
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Speaker 3: the Four Word Answer, Rob PR nightmare Number one. Of course,
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Speaker 3: if any of this is true, and he says is
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Speaker 3: absolutely not true, I can't say that enough. But if
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Speaker 3: any of this is true, it's a PR nightmare. But
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Speaker 3: even if it's not true, it's still a PR nightmare
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Speaker 3: for Sean Carter.
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Speaker 8: Rob Absolutely this is a crisis for the Carter family,
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Speaker 8: not just Beyonce and Jay, but also the kids are involved.
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Speaker 8: Her mom is involved, to Beyonce's mom is involved in this,
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Speaker 8: and so this is a massive PR crisis. They knew
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Speaker 8: it was coming, so they suspected this was coming for
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Speaker 8: a while, so they had their statement ready to go.
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Speaker 8: And the day that it was actually announced that Jay's
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Speaker 8: name was announced, Beyonce was planning to walk a red
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Speaker 8: carpet that night for a Disney premiere in La I'm
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Speaker 8: told initially the family pulled out and then they changed
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Speaker 8: their mind, saying, if we don't turn up, it looks
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Speaker 8: like we have something to hide. So they were on
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Speaker 8: the red carpet less than twenty four hours after these allegations,
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Speaker 8: after his name was named.
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Speaker 1: And again Rob Shooter.
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Speaker 3: Whether the claims are true, true or false, it's still devastating.
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Speaker 3: And you know another thing about this, the fact that
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Speaker 3: Beyonce is now pulled into it. Have you ever heard
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Speaker 3: the phrase birds of a feather flock together or you
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Speaker 3: lay down with the dog, you wake up with a flea.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard either one of those?
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this doesn't work in a court of law.
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Speaker 1: It's not really.
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Speaker 3: Argued in a court of law because it's inappropriate and prejudicial.
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Speaker 3: But no juror can help but think those two adages.
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Speaker 3: If all of this is true about Sean Combs, he
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Speaker 3: says he's innocent, But are all these other women lying?
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Speaker 3: All I'm supposed to believe they're all lying? In Combs
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Speaker 3: is telling the truth.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that.
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Speaker 3: If any of those claims against him are true, what.
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Speaker 1: Is jay Z doing hanging around with him?
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Speaker 8: These two grew up together in the rap world, So
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Speaker 8: when did he started out? Early on in his career,
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Speaker 8: Jay was starting out too, Beyonce as well. They weren't
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Speaker 8: always the big superstars they were today. We forget that
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Speaker 8: about celebrities that at one point they did start out
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Speaker 8: learning their craft. They were in the same sort of group,
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Speaker 8: they were hanging out together, they were probably bad boys together.
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Speaker 8: But now this is coming to bite jay Z somewhere
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Speaker 8: not very pleasant.
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Speaker 3: Well, I've got a really big indication that all is
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Speaker 3: not pure paradise in the jay Z Beyonce union. Do
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Speaker 3: you remember when Solange, oh, here we go in the
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Speaker 3: elevator and there you go go ahead, Solange, go go girl,
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Speaker 3: And do you notice it's a bodyguard pulling Beyonce's sister
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Speaker 3: off of jay Z. It's not her, it's not they
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Speaker 3: pulling her off. This is from our friends at TMZ.
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Speaker 3: I just can't look at that enough because when Beyonce
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Speaker 3: walks off that elevator, she's not angry. She's kind of
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Speaker 3: like got a half smile going on, like she's happy.
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Speaker 1: Soan gave him the one too.
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Speaker 3: What about it, Rob Sheeter, I'm curious to know exactly
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Speaker 3: when this video was as opposed to to compare to
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Speaker 3: when the then thirteen year old girl makes her claim.
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Speaker 1: But I mean that tells it all to me.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think when that video was released it was
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Speaker 8: an absolute bombshell. It's easy to think that these celebrities
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Speaker 8: seem to have these perfect lives and perfect marriages. It's
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Speaker 8: never the case. There's always a skeleton in the closet,
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Speaker 8: there's always some family drama here. But I think what's
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Speaker 8: so interesting about this video to me is that Beyonce
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Speaker 8: did nothing. She stood by, She didn't say a word.
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Speaker 8: We have video of them leaving that hotel. It was
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Speaker 8: at the Boom Boom Room here in New York, and
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Speaker 8: we see them walk into their cars almost with a
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Speaker 8: smile on her face. Let me just quickly add two.
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Speaker 8: Beyonce had a very famous song out where she referenced
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Speaker 8: Becky with the good hair.
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Speaker 3: It is believed.
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Speaker 8: Amongst the music business inside us that that's a reference
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Speaker 8: to somebody that Jay was cheating on.
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Speaker 3: You know, you Brits love a good sex story. I, however,
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Speaker 3: do not unless it has something to do with a felony,
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Speaker 3: which cheating does not. Unless it's got crime scene tape
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Speaker 3: around it. I don't care about it. So they can
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Speaker 3: all cheat as much as they want to. What I
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Speaker 3: want to talk about with you, Shooter, is this case
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Speaker 3: the evidence and another thing I want to ask you
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Speaker 3: before I go to jay Z's denials, Rob Shooter, does
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Speaker 3: that sound plausible? The thirteen year old girl would be
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Speaker 3: in a line to get into the VMA's and be
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Speaker 3: plucked out. And remember, Rob Sheeter, this is similar to
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Speaker 3: what other women have said. They would be put into
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Speaker 3: a limo, They would be taken to a party that
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Speaker 3: have a drink and the next.
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Speaker 1: Thing you know, they were raped.
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Speaker 3: It fits the same EMMA, except this time jay Z
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Speaker 3: is thrown on the part to Steve Yeah.
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Speaker 8: I think the myth here is these big celebrity parties,
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Speaker 8: these big events are impossible to get into. I've been
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Speaker 8: to many of them, including the Oscars, the Golden Globes,
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Speaker 8: and the MTV Awards at Radio City, and honestly, you
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Speaker 8: can sneak in that often people are not paying attention.
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Speaker 8: You see people slip past barriers. If you want to
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Speaker 8: get into a VI party here in New York or
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Speaker 8: LA or anywhere else, you probably will if you turn
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Speaker 8: up aggressive and you're wearing something, Rob.
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Speaker 3: Sheeter, I'm not trying to sneak into a VIP, jay
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Speaker 3: Z or Sean Combe's party. That's it about to Quila Brandley,
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Speaker 3: joining US investigative reporter dailymail dot Com and host of
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Speaker 3: the trial of Diddy. Kila Jackie's telling me here in
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Speaker 3: the studio that the Solage video was in twenty fourteen.
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Speaker 3: When do we think the alleged thirteen year old rape occurred.
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Speaker 7: Well, the victim is claiming that this happened in two thousand, fourteen,
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Speaker 7: years before non connected the Launde video.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad you knew that, so Kil. I can
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Speaker 3: only imagine that Solange and Beyonce were angry at jay
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Speaker 3: z for another issue. Okay, let's hear what j z
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Speaker 3: Aka Sean Carter has to say.
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Speaker 6: Jay z Aka Sean Carter claims the lawsuit by the
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Speaker 6: Jane Doe is a blackmail attempt, calling the accusation false
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Speaker 6: and speaking out against Tony busby Jane Doe's attorney. In part,
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Speaker 6: Jay z Wright, what he had calculated was the nature
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Speaker 6: of these allegations and the public scrutiny would make me
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Speaker 6: want to settle. No, sir, it had the opposite effect.
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Speaker 6: It made me want to expose you for the fraud
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Speaker 6: you are in a very public fashion. So no, I
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Speaker 6: will not give you one red penny. These allegations are
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Speaker 6: so hemious in nature that I employ you to file
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Speaker 6: a criminal complaint, not a civil one. Whomever would commit
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Speaker 6: such a crime against a minor should be locked away.
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Speaker 1: Would you not.
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Speaker 6: Agree these alleged victims would deserve real justice if.
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Speaker 10: That were the case.
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Speaker 4: Sean Combe's minimal Christmas festivities missing a bit of cheer
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Speaker 4: as he spends his first holiday season behind bars and
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Speaker 4: in New York federal prison.
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Speaker 1: Diddy Ho ho ho.
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Speaker 3: Crime behind bars because he can't get his laptop.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happens when you're charged with multiple counts
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Speaker 1: of rape, Diddy.
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Speaker 3: But now in the mix of all of this, jay
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Speaker 3: Z has been dragged into the center of the storm.
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Speaker 1: But what does he say? He responds vehemently, listen.
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Speaker 5: Continuing his offense, stating, you have made a terrible air
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Speaker 5: in judgment thinking that all celebrities are the same. I'm
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Speaker 5: a young man who made it out of the project
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Speaker 5: of Brooklyn. We don't play these types of games. We
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Speaker 5: have very strict codes and honor. We protect children. You
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Speaker 5: seem to exploit people for personal gain. Only network of
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Speaker 5: conspiracy theorists will believe the idiotic claims you have levied
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Speaker 5: against me, that, if not for the seriousest surrounding harm
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Speaker 5: to kids, would be laughable.
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Speaker 3: Okay, hold on just a moment. I don't know that
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Speaker 3: I would have released that Rob Shooter. Rob Shooter is
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Speaker 3: a very high profile publicist, hope, so not a but
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Speaker 3: nice podcast. Diddy's former publicist number one. Let's just start
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Speaker 3: at the beginning, jay Z, your first of himself as
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Speaker 3: a young man who made it.
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Speaker 1: Isn't he fifty five years old? He's no spring Chicken.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's an odd statement, isn't it. I think what
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Speaker 8: he's trying to do here, and I've seen these statements be.
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Speaker 1: Crafted a lot.
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Speaker 8: He's trying to make sure we all realize that these
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Speaker 8: allegations are from way, way way back in the past. Now.
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Speaker 8: I don't know if that necessarily helps them. They're so ugly, but.
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Speaker 3: That's so you're in your mind as a publicist, having
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Speaker 3: worked with all of these Hollywood stars, you think because
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Speaker 3: it happened.
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Speaker 1: When he was thirty one, that what doesn't count. It
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Speaker 1: can't shoot. Yeah, it does, kind but that's what it.
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Speaker 5: Cants.
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Speaker 8: But they're trying to give a little bit of distance here,
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Speaker 8: That's what they're trying to do. And so that's a
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Speaker 8: technique that celebrities use all the time. And I don't
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Speaker 8: know if it necessarily helps, but that's.
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Speaker 3: What he's doing, this press release. I don't know how
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Speaker 3: wise it was. I do think it was wise. Are
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Speaker 3: jay z Akaa shan Corner to speak out? I think
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Speaker 3: you need all help from a publicist. But what do
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Speaker 3: you make of what he is saying.
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Speaker 8: I don't think he's helping his case. I'm not sure
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Speaker 8: he's making it any worse. Like doctors, publicists want to
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Speaker 8: make sure they don't make a situation worse. He has
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Speaker 8: a lot of people around him. He has some of
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Speaker 8: the best pr people money can buy, and so he's
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Speaker 8: getting a lot of advice. I've worked around jay Z
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Speaker 8: in this business for a long time. What I'm told
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Speaker 8: is that ultimately jay Z makes the decisions. You can
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Speaker 8: give him advice.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well let me ask you something else, Rob She.
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Speaker 3: You know the old adage when you don't know a horse,
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Speaker 3: look at a track record.
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Speaker 1: If you want to know who was hanging out with.
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Speaker 3: Combs and allegedly Carter that night, and Kila Brandtley can
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Speaker 3: tell you.
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Speaker 1: When the party was.
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Speaker 3: If you want to know who was with him that night,
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Speaker 3: what female a less celebrity was there, then you look
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Speaker 3: at who typically hangs out with him.
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Speaker 1: Would you agree or disagree? Because somebody needed to a party.
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Speaker 3: Seeing a thirteen year old girl and getting rape is
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Speaker 3: going to run for the heels as if she had
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Speaker 3: seen a monster.
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Speaker 8: Right right, There's going to be photographs of every A
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Speaker 8: list celebrity walking in and out of this party. Did
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Speaker 8: he likes publicity? He didn't do things quietly. He often
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Speaker 8: tipped off the paparazzi, so we can add photographs. Plus,
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Speaker 8: let's remember, this isn't just a guest at the party.
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Speaker 8: This is somebody who allegedly saw something outrageous, hideous. Now
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Speaker 8: that's somebody that has not spoken out, so we know
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Speaker 8: it's somebody who is loyal to Diddy. This is a
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Speaker 8: really close friend of Didy. There's a clue there. This
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Speaker 8: isn't some random celebrit you that turned up. This is
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Speaker 8: somebody that's a friend of his that will protect him.
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Speaker 8: All these pieces are adding up the puzzle.
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Speaker 3: Joshua Ritter joining me, high profile criminal defense attorney, former
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Speaker 3: felony prosecutor, and host of Courtroom Confidential on YouTube.
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Speaker 1: Joshua, thank you for being with us. Josh I just.
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Speaker 3: Came to mind a thirteen year old girl that had
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Speaker 3: been sex trafficked. She was pimped out and I along
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Speaker 3: with investigators. They found her first and took me to
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Speaker 3: her in a flophouse on Stewart Avenue in Atlanta, Georgia,
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Speaker 3: southwest Atlanta, Georgia. I went in to speak to the
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Speaker 3: girl and there were like four or five women in there,
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Speaker 3: sitting on two different double beds. I came back out, like,
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Speaker 3: the girl's not in there. They said, yes, she is.
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Speaker 3: She's the one of the white boots. I went back
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Speaker 3: in and it looked like a thirty five year old
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Speaker 3: woman with all the fake hair and the makeup and
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Speaker 3: the pushup bra. It was a thirteen year old girl
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Speaker 3: tricked out point the night before she was.
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Speaker 1: Set to testify. She ran away.
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Speaker 3: I was beating the streets till five o'clock that morning
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Speaker 3: trying to find the girl, found her, put her in
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Speaker 3: a hotel, my investigator at the door until time for
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Speaker 3: her to testify. She was so afraid the guys would
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Speaker 3: get off. They didn't, by the way, they did not.
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Speaker 1: That she was.
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Speaker 3: Afraid to come in the courtroom with them. So now
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Speaker 3: we've got a woman then thirteen years old that has
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Speaker 3: come forward and jay Z and I understand if he's innocent,
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Speaker 3: why he's saying this demands that her name be released.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of it?
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Speaker 11: They're trying to do exactly what you just pointed out.
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Speaker 11: It's all about fear. It's all abouttrol and fear and
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Speaker 11: trying to expose this victim in the hopes that she's
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Speaker 11: still going to be afraid of jay Z and the
20:09
Speaker 11: power that he has. Problem is the world change when
20:12
Speaker 11: p did he got arrested. He's now sitting in a
20:15
Speaker 11: federal jail awaiting his trial, where he'll perhaps spread the
20:19
Speaker 11: rest of his life in prison. People are no longer afraid.
20:23
Speaker 11: This same attorney, Tony Busby now has over one hundred
20:27
Speaker 11: different people who've come forward and say that they've also
20:30
Speaker 11: been attacked at the hands of Combs and who knows
20:32
Speaker 11: how many other celebrities. They no longer have the same
20:36
Speaker 11: kind of power, control and fear operating over these folks.
20:39
Speaker 11: And I think twenty four years later, this woman feels
20:43
Speaker 11: that she is now brave enough to come forward but instill.
20:46
Speaker 11: The tactic being used by JC and his team is
20:49
Speaker 11: to try to intimidate.
20:51
Speaker 4: Fans online speculate on jay Z's innocence after a bombshell
20:56
Speaker 4: is revealed and a newly amended loss suit.
21:01
Speaker 3: To Caleb Brantley, investigative reporter with Dailymail dot Com and
21:05
Speaker 3: star off the Trial of Diddy podcast KILA.
21:08
Speaker 1: I also hear Jay Z aka Sean.
21:11
Speaker 3: Carter claiming that conspiracy theorists theorists have something to do
21:17
Speaker 3: with this then thirteen year old girls claim against him.
21:20
Speaker 7: Not only did Jay Z emphatically deny these allegations, he
21:24
Speaker 7: really came out swinging against the lawyer Tony Busby who's
21:28
Speaker 7: representing over one hundred alleged victims of Sean Diddy combs.
21:33
Speaker 7: He called him an ambulance chaser in a cheap suit.
21:37
Speaker 7: He said that these allegations were heinous and said that
21:41
Speaker 7: it was actually blackmail. So conspiracy theorists, sure, but he's
21:46
Speaker 7: saying anything that he can to really discredit these allegations.
21:50
Speaker 3: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining me, renowned psychoanalysts joining us out
21:54
Speaker 3: of LA, author of deal Breaker, and you can see
21:57
Speaker 3: her on Peacock. Now doctor Bethany start hearing about conspiracy theories.
22:03
Speaker 1: I scene out remember when A. J.
22:05
Speaker 3: Simpson said there was a big conspiracy to frame him
22:09
Speaker 3: like the LA cops are going to get together and
22:11
Speaker 3: frame a beloved football star.
22:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, that didn't happen.
22:16
Speaker 3: So when you hear conspiracy thrown out there, it immediately
22:19
Speaker 3: makes the speaker lose credibility, just like.
22:22
Speaker 12: What was a code of honor makes him.
22:25
Speaker 13: Look lose credibility because people who do heinous things turn
22:29
Speaker 13: the act into its opposite. So code of silence gets
22:32
Speaker 13: turned into code of honor, Nancy. So Jase's response is
22:39
Speaker 13: so aggressive. He's tearing down the attorney, he's defending his
22:43
Speaker 13: own family, he's talking about his children, he's trying to
22:47
Speaker 13: expose the victim. I couldn't help but think what if
22:52
Speaker 13: I was a thirteen year old girl and I felt
22:55
Speaker 13: this kind of aggression when I was drugged. I think
22:58
Speaker 13: that's what's going to be in the mind of the public.
23:00
Speaker 13: Like Jaz is being so aggressive, what else is he
23:03
Speaker 13: capable of? And Nancy, Women don't realize that when they
23:07
Speaker 13: marry somebody, they marry their crimes. They marry the other
23:11
Speaker 13: person's crimes. Sure, they might may not end up in
23:14
Speaker 13: jail like the other person, but they're going to end
23:17
Speaker 13: up paying for an attorney, losing friends, losing their credibility.
23:21
Speaker 13: Women sign tax returns all time with their partners and
23:25
Speaker 13: without knowing that the partner is in millions of dollars
23:28
Speaker 13: of debt to the irs. So that's kind of what
23:32
Speaker 13: I think about this, Nancy.
23:33
Speaker 3: Okay, are you trying to say that they say married
23:37
Speaker 3: in to a whole hepe of trouble?
23:38
Speaker 1: Yes, I am. I'm not sure that she knew about it.
23:41
Speaker 13: Women blind themselves to that, Nancy.
23:42
Speaker 1: I'm writing a book about love.
23:44
Speaker 13: Fraud right now, and what I'm seeing is that women
23:47
Speaker 13: who marry men who have offending patterns, they do not
23:51
Speaker 13: see it at the beginning. They are so in love,
23:54
Speaker 13: they feel so grateful to be with that person that
23:58
Speaker 13: they cannot even imagine that that person would do bad things.
24:02
Speaker 13: I don't know about jay Z if these allegations are
24:04
Speaker 13: true or not.
24:05
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, my head just blew off. Are you
24:07
Speaker 3: telling me, Beyonce, she'ld be grateful that she is married
24:13
Speaker 3: to jay Z.
24:13
Speaker 1: I never knew what she saw in him anyway.
24:16
Speaker 13: I'm sure she felt that way because women feel that way, Nancy,
24:21
Speaker 13: were socialized to feel that way, to look past the
24:25
Speaker 13: misdeeds of the other person. I'm sure you saw this all.
24:29
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, actually I do, but not everybody is Beyonce beautiful, talented,
24:37
Speaker 3: multi millionaire, probably billionaire, beautiful children.
24:41
Speaker 1: I just I never saw the jay Z. Why did
24:46
Speaker 1: she marry him to start with?
24:47
Speaker 3: Not that that's part of the evidence, but why did
24:49
Speaker 3: she marry him and all the men in the world.
24:52
Speaker 1: She could have had a couple of reasons.
24:54
Speaker 8: If I'm being optimistic, I want to say because she
24:56
Speaker 8: fell in love, and love's very confusing. We never really
24:59
Speaker 8: know how to follow it. But if I'm being a
25:01
Speaker 8: little bit more cynical, jay Z helped shape beyond Say's Korea.
25:05
Speaker 8: When she married him, she definitely was a star, but
25:07
Speaker 8: she was in a group, Destiny's Child. She hadn't yet
25:10
Speaker 8: broken out into being a superstar in her own right.
25:13
Speaker 8: So many many people think that Jesse he's not just
25:16
Speaker 8: a performer. You have to remember behind the scenes, he's
25:19
Speaker 8: one of the most powerful people in the music business.
25:22
Speaker 3: Plus, she started dating him when she was just nineteen.
25:26
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I'm not a shrink. I don't
25:28
Speaker 3: know how that played into it, But at nineteen, what
25:31
Speaker 3: do you know? I mean, now I look at a
25:34
Speaker 3: man and I think, but he'd be a good father,
25:36
Speaker 3: is he going to be a good role model. I
25:39
Speaker 3: tell my husband all the time, Look, wherever you go
25:43
Speaker 3: during the day, act like you're going to work. They
25:45
Speaker 3: just act that way. Okay, get dressed up and go
25:49
Speaker 3: to the office. Okay. Luckily I've got life three sixty
25:53
Speaker 3: on him, so I know he does go to the office.
25:55
Speaker 3: But I look at what kind of father they're going
25:57
Speaker 3: to be. Are they going to be stable when I
26:00
Speaker 3: need him? Is he gonna be there? Is he gonna
26:02
Speaker 3: be running across the street and get a pack of cigarettes?
26:05
Speaker 1: So what you want? Help me out, Bethany.
26:08
Speaker 3: I'm trying to explain something to Rob Sheeter, and I
26:10
Speaker 3: don't think I'm doing a very good job.
26:12
Speaker 1: At What you want at nineteen may not be what
26:15
Speaker 1: you want later, Nancy.
26:17
Speaker 13: It's true jay Z was rich, famous, and a producer,
26:22
Speaker 13: and she was nineteen on her way up. He employed
26:26
Speaker 13: the most common offending pattern or grooming pattern. If the
26:30
Speaker 13: allegations are true, I have no idea, but the offending
26:33
Speaker 13: pattern is, Hey, I'm rich and famous, and I can
26:35
Speaker 13: make you rich and famous too.
26:37
Speaker 1: Okay, So I okay, you know this is what I know.
26:43
Speaker 1: All I'm hearing right now, I said, blah blah, blah
26:45
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. But I know this, rolland
26:50
Speaker 1: roll it, Liz.
26:51
Speaker 3: This is what I know that when Beyonce's sister Solange
26:55
Speaker 3: attacked jay Z, they just stood there and went, go
27:01
Speaker 3: use your foot, girl, go go go.
27:05
Speaker 1: It didn't bother her at all.
27:07
Speaker 3: Now that's my friend Harvey Levin over at t EMZ
27:10
Speaker 3: so we can talk to We're all blue in the face,
27:13
Speaker 3: But to me, that video says it all. Lynda Shaw,
27:17
Speaker 3: somehow I've gotten into the marriage of jay Z and Beyonce.
27:21
Speaker 3: Can we just bring it back to the thirteenth then
27:24
Speaker 3: thirteen year old little girl?
27:26
Speaker 12: We can bring it back, Nancy, But I have to
27:28
Speaker 12: weigh in. Let's get real. I'm a New Yorker. This
27:31
Speaker 12: was always we heard a business arrangement. He was such
27:34
Speaker 12: a powerful man.
27:35
Speaker 1: She will live. Where those three children come from.
27:38
Speaker 12: Well that's another program, Nancy, if you want my thoughts
27:41
Speaker 12: on that, because I've heard a lot of different versions
27:43
Speaker 12: of where they actually came from. So I'm just gonna
27:45
Speaker 12: leave it at that. So we can talk about the
27:47
Speaker 12: thirty That sounds.
27:48
Speaker 1: Like another conspiracy theory.
27:49
Speaker 3: I'm not buying in to where the children do not
27:51
Speaker 3: even put the words of blue ivy in your mouth.
27:54
Speaker 12: Okay, Donnald, I didn't. But Nancy, let me tell you something.
27:57
Speaker 12: Think about this, everybody. Conspiracy usually proves to be true.
28:02
Speaker 12: Think about all the conspiracies we've heard about. When people
28:04
Speaker 12: throw that word out there, it usually turns out to
28:07
Speaker 12: be true. And I'm going to leave that for a minute.
28:09
Speaker 12: I'm going to get to this thirteen year old. First
28:11
Speaker 12: of all, very disturbing, this usual, this vehement, whatever this
28:17
Speaker 12: statement is that he put out, jay Z, you know
28:20
Speaker 12: what it did not include. It was very aggressive. As
28:22
Speaker 12: we pointed out, he never actually said I did not
28:26
Speaker 12: touch a thirteen year old. I did not touch a
28:29
Speaker 12: little girl. I am the father to you, a young girl.
28:32
Speaker 12: He said a lot of things, but he did not
28:35
Speaker 12: actually deny this if you read through that. So I
28:38
Speaker 12: have a problem with that. I also have a problem
28:40
Speaker 12: with a little thirteen year old signed an NDA. A
28:43
Speaker 12: child cannot sign an NDA. But here's what we need.
28:45
Speaker 12: We need proof. We can talk to hell we're blue
28:47
Speaker 12: in the face, scream and yell. We need proof. I
28:50
Speaker 12: want to know where's that limo driver that supposedly dropped
28:53
Speaker 12: her off at this white house with the circular drive.
28:56
Speaker 12: Can't we trace back records to whose driver was Rob Shooter?
28:59
Speaker 1: Way?
29:00
Speaker 12: You've been in New York a long time too, Like,
29:02
Speaker 12: there's been so many stories.
29:04
Speaker 1: About jay Z, Diddy, this and that.
29:06
Speaker 12: And let me tell you a code of silence, code
29:08
Speaker 12: of honor, whatever you call it, It's called don't talk.
29:12
Speaker 12: So why is that in New York? I'm a New
29:14
Speaker 12: Yorker again? Why is jay Z talking out like this?
29:19
Speaker 12: Why is he opening his mouth at all? That's my
29:21
Speaker 12: take on the whole thing. We have to get back
29:23
Speaker 12: to the victim, the survivors. I'm the first one that
29:25
Speaker 12: always supports them. But if we are to go to
29:27
Speaker 12: court and prove all of this, we cannot do a
29:30
Speaker 12: disservice to the real victims, the real survivors, if we
29:34
Speaker 12: can't get this case into court and hold them accountable.
29:38
Speaker 1: Okay, Rob's heater.
29:39
Speaker 3: Number one, answer her question, and number two, you think
29:42
Speaker 3: you know who the female mystery celebrity is, don't you?
29:46
Speaker 12: Two things?
29:47
Speaker 5: Two things?
29:48
Speaker 8: Nancy. So to answer the question, jay Z is speaking
29:51
Speaker 8: at now and not because he saw the light or
29:53
Speaker 8: he's been a good guy. He was named in the
29:55
Speaker 8: lawsuits and so he is responding to that lawsuits. He's
29:58
Speaker 8: known about these these rumors for a really long time.
30:02
Speaker 8: Also too, Let's be honest, jay Z knows what happens
30:05
Speaker 8: him and did he were there. They know what happens
30:07
Speaker 8: and so the only reason jay Z is talking is
30:10
Speaker 8: because he has been named. Second question Nancy was about,
30:15
Speaker 8: remind me forgive me.
30:17
Speaker 1: Shooter the mystery female celebrity. You know who you think
30:25
Speaker 1: it is. That's why I forgot it.
30:26
Speaker 8: I don't want to talk about this one. There's rumors.
30:29
Speaker 8: I think I know who it is. It's somebody that
30:31
Speaker 8: is very close to Diddy. This is not a random celebrity.
30:34
Speaker 8: This isn't somebody that stumbled into a party. This is
30:37
Speaker 8: someone that's a friend, someone that considers him a brother,
30:40
Speaker 8: somebody that wants to protect him.
30:42
Speaker 3: I said enough, Okay, I'm not getting out of you today,
30:45
Speaker 3: but I guarantee you, Shooter, I will get it out
30:47
Speaker 3: of you.
30:54
Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Natty Grace Sean Ditty.
31:00
Speaker 10: Combs will be celebrating his first Christmas in jail, and
31:03
Speaker 10: it looks like it will be a full day Christmas
31:06
Speaker 10: at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. Will include the
31:09
Speaker 10: opportunity for inmates to play card games, dominoes, and a
31:12
Speaker 10: three on three basketball tournament, and when it's time for
31:15
Speaker 10: the traditional holiday meal. The Christmas Day Ditty menu will
31:20
Speaker 10: feature baked cornish hen, macaroni and cheese, cranberry sauce, dinner rolls,
31:25
Speaker 10: and a holiday dessert.
31:27
Speaker 3: A holiday dessert cornish hen, cranberry sauce, mac and cheese,
31:32
Speaker 3: dinner rolls, a holiday dessert, a traditional holiday meal, card games, dominoes.
31:39
Speaker 1: Three on three basketball?
31:40
Speaker 3: What straight out to doctor Dwayne Hendricks? Doctor Hendricks joining
31:48
Speaker 3: US former Associate warden at NDC Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn,
31:53
Speaker 3: former senior warden with the US Department of Justice, blah
31:56
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah, author of Who Are You See It?
32:02
Speaker 3: Say It Sees It? And president of a New Daylight Foundation. Okay,
32:07
Speaker 3: doctor Dwayne, I could go on with your CV, but
32:10
Speaker 3: I don't have time, Doctor Hendrix.
32:12
Speaker 1: What am I hearing?
32:14
Speaker 3: Nobody's making me a cornish hen and I haven't committed
32:17
Speaker 3: a felony norma I have. I'm been charge with one
32:19
Speaker 3: cornishan mac and cheese, cranberry sauce, a special holiday dessert.
32:23
Speaker 9: What He's the most wonderful time of the year, Nascy uh,
32:27
Speaker 9: you know for accused rays again, there are housed under
32:32
Speaker 9: the care of the Attorney general, US Attorney General, and
32:35
Speaker 9: it's their responsibility to make sure that they're running a state.
32:39
Speaker 9: And he made facility and as all of all Americans
32:43
Speaker 9: and quotes across the world celebrate the holiday season, you know,
32:48
Speaker 9: it's not unusual to spend tax payer dollars to ensure
32:53
Speaker 9: individuals who are inside facilities, you know, have some semblance
32:58
Speaker 9: of the holidays because you know, obviously you know, suicide
33:02
Speaker 9: rates are very high during this time period. And also
33:07
Speaker 9: folks are fighting for their freedom. Uh, so you know,
33:10
Speaker 9: they want to make sure that there is some semblance
33:12
Speaker 9: of normalcy in their lives although they are incarcerated.
33:16
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, doctor Hendrix, I'm very surprised that you
33:19
Speaker 3: just said that. But instead of attacking you for your
33:23
Speaker 3: let me just say generosity toward accused rapist.
33:27
Speaker 1: Linshaw helped me out here three on three.
33:31
Speaker 3: Basketball a Christmas Day Diddy menu with cornish hen mac
33:36
Speaker 3: and cheese, cranberry sauce generals, and a holiday dessert. This
33:40
Speaker 3: while Sean comes aka Diddy a ka Puff aka Puffy
33:45
Speaker 3: aka Puff Daddy aka Love is whining. He can't have
33:49
Speaker 3: his laptop. I mean, something is completely fast awkwards with this.
33:55
Speaker 3: Oh you know what, while I've got you, Lynshaw, he
33:58
Speaker 3: also had a special Thanksgiving me turkey roast, mashed potatoes,
34:02
Speaker 3: mixed vangies, cranery sauce, turkey gravy.
34:04
Speaker 1: Dinner rolls of course with margarine, and.
34:07
Speaker 3: A special assortment of holiday pies.
34:12
Speaker 12: Thoughts hi aka Dirty Diddy, you forgot that one, Nancy.
34:17
Speaker 12: Let me tell you something. Give this guy porridge, soupy porridge.
34:21
Speaker 1: I don't care.
34:22
Speaker 12: He's getting a lot of special special things here. But
34:25
Speaker 12: let's turn this around. How about all the victims. We
34:28
Speaker 12: at the Warriors work with survivors who are not being
34:31
Speaker 12: treated to special Christmas desserts, you know, on the taxpayer dollar,
34:36
Speaker 12: because we have to bake the cakes the public and
34:39
Speaker 12: bring it to the people because we don't have the
34:40
Speaker 12: resources to give them a nice holiday, and the toys
34:44
Speaker 12: we have to collect for kids because well, the taxpayer dollars,
34:47
Speaker 12: there's not enough to go around for these poor survivors
34:50
Speaker 12: of human trafficking, sex, slavery, sexual exploitation. And this guy's
34:54
Speaker 12: complaining he should get nothing. I'm sorry you're in jail
34:58
Speaker 12: for a reason, even if you haven't been found guilty yet,
35:01
Speaker 12: you should be sweeping out the cells. Send them out
35:04
Speaker 12: onto the streets. Our New York City streets are filthy.
35:06
Speaker 12: Let them go out there. Well, then again, here in
35:09
Speaker 12: New York they call that labor trafficking, so we can't
35:11
Speaker 12: have that. But let's get back to come on now.
35:14
Speaker 12: We don't care what he has to eat. Give him
35:15
Speaker 12: that old tuna fish sandwich we heard about a few
35:17
Speaker 12: months ago. He deserves nothing, and from what I understand,
35:20
Speaker 12: he's still get it from my sources, a couple of
35:23
Speaker 12: special privileges in this metropolitan detention center. Let's put the
35:27
Speaker 12: focus back on the holidays and the kids, the survivors,
35:30
Speaker 12: the victims of all sexual exploitation.
35:33
Speaker 3: I just feel too, doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst, that the
35:39
Speaker 3: focus is on what can we do for Sean Combs
35:43
Speaker 3: to make his life better and happier and more luxurious
35:46
Speaker 3: and more pleasant behind bars while he waits on his
35:49
Speaker 3: multi count federal indictment trial. We now know he's creating
35:53
Speaker 3: a stink because he can't have his personal laptop. Remember
35:57
Speaker 3: Alex Murlad behind bars for double and the brutal execution
36:03
Speaker 3: of his wife and son. Remember when he got a
36:06
Speaker 3: hold of a tablet and he took shirtless selfies. I
36:10
Speaker 3: don't even want to think about Alex and Murdog without
36:13
Speaker 3: his shirt on. So why does he get special food,
36:17
Speaker 3: special menus, a holiday ditty dinner for Christmas, a laptop,
36:23
Speaker 3: three on three, basketball, Domino's card games.
36:26
Speaker 1: Just when you.
36:28
Speaker 3: Think about the lifetime sentence, the life sentence that rape
36:33
Speaker 3: victims get after.
36:35
Speaker 1: They are brutalized, and then.
36:38
Speaker 3: Everyone is worried, like doctor Dwayne Hendrix is worried about
36:42
Speaker 3: Diddy's feelings behind bars.
36:44
Speaker 13: You know, Nancy, I always wonder, like what is good
36:48
Speaker 13: for somebody who's sociopathic?
36:50
Speaker 1: What would be good.
36:50
Speaker 13: For Sean Dittycombs is to have the identical experience that
36:55
Speaker 13: the victims had. Now, I don't mean to be raped,
36:58
Speaker 13: but to be frightened, to be off from resources, to
37:01
Speaker 13: as Lynn Shaw so beautifully said, sweep out the other jails,
37:05
Speaker 13: sweep out the streets, to really know what it's like
37:09
Speaker 13: to be in that position. Because sociopaths don't have empathy,
37:13
Speaker 13: they don't know what their victims feel, or if they
37:16
Speaker 13: do know, they use it to manipulate them. So if
37:19
Speaker 13: he had a similar experience that actually might be helpful
37:22
Speaker 13: for him and good for him to not have that
37:24
Speaker 13: laptop because he would use it to threaten victims.
37:27
Speaker 10: Spending his birthday and holidays in jail was never a
37:30
Speaker 10: plan for Diddy. The Disgrace Music Mobile has been trying
37:33
Speaker 10: to get released from jail pending trial, but even though
37:35
Speaker 10: he has offered upwards of fifty million dollars to wait
37:39
Speaker 10: for trial at his home on Star Island, prosecutors have
37:43
Speaker 10: insisted he is a threat to witnesses and victims. Diddy
37:47
Speaker 10: has had three swings at being released on bail until trial,
37:50
Speaker 10: and each time he's whipped.
37:52
Speaker 1: Straight back out.
37:53
Speaker 3: Tokaela Brantley, joining US investigative reporter at large for dailymail
37:57
Speaker 3: dot Com and host of the Trial of Ditty podcas
38:00
Speaker 3: As Kila, tell me what happened at that last bond
38:04
Speaker 3: bail hearing.
38:05
Speaker 7: Yeah, Nancy, this was his third attempt at bail. The
38:09
Speaker 7: judge completely denied it, and interestingly in court did he
38:13
Speaker 7: showed up not in shackles. This was actually a request
38:16
Speaker 7: made by his legal team that they felt that it
38:19
Speaker 7: would really just influence the jury and you know, people
38:22
Speaker 7: around because this is a high profile celebrity, and the
38:26
Speaker 7: judge did grant that, so he was not shackled this time.
38:29
Speaker 7: You know, he said hi to his family, So that's
38:32
Speaker 7: what happened in court. But he's supposed to have his
38:36
Speaker 7: trials start May fifth, twenty twenty five, and every legal
38:39
Speaker 7: expert that we've spoken to thinks that's absolutely impossible. So
38:43
Speaker 7: it's likely that he'll be there for a while.
38:45
Speaker 3: To Joshua Ritter, veteran trial lawyer, former prosecutor, and host
38:51
Speaker 3: of Courtroom Confidential, josh the lawyers at trial wanted did
38:56
Speaker 3: he housed in a luxury apartment in Manhattan. They came
39:00
Speaker 3: up with all of these terms put off to put
39:03
Speaker 3: up a fifty million dollar bond. They also insisted the
39:08
Speaker 3: restrictions on him having a laptop are quote untenable, and
39:12
Speaker 3: that he should have unfettered access to a computer whenever
39:15
Speaker 3: and wherever.
39:16
Speaker 1: He wants to use it.
39:17
Speaker 3: Let me ask you first about the bail bond bid.
39:20
Speaker 3: What do you think will there be another one? I
39:23
Speaker 3: think there will.
39:23
Speaker 11: I think they'll keep on trying because they're desperately trying
39:26
Speaker 11: to get him out to try to defend himself on this.
39:28
Speaker 11: I don't think there's a chance of it happening, though,
39:30
Speaker 11: I mean, we've heard the more that we hear about this.
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Speaker 11: This man was an absolute menace for decades, intimidating people,
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Speaker 11: using his power, using his wealth to get what he
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Speaker 11: wanted and to scare people. And the prosecutors see that.
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Speaker 11: The judge thankfully is seeing that. I don't think there's
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Speaker 11: a chance this man gets out. He's already made his
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Speaker 11: best shot fifty million dollars and basically around the clock surveillance,
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Speaker 11: and the judge says, no doubt. So I don't think
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Speaker 11: there's a chance he gets out before trial.
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Speaker 3: We've been talking about Jay z Akaa Sean Carter getting
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Speaker 3: dragged into the Diddy turmoil, but there is another star
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Speaker 3: probably sweating it out right now, Jennifer Lopez.
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Speaker 5: A new documentary about Sean Ditty Comb's protege Shine, has
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Speaker 5: the former mogul sending out a season desist letter from jail,
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Speaker 5: But as people say it isn't to get rid of
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Speaker 5: the documentary, he sends the CND to make sure the
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Speaker 5: facts are right. Shine is with Ditty and Jennifer Lopez.
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Speaker 5: The night shots frang out in a New York nightclub
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Speaker 5: and three people are shot. He and Diddy ended up
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Speaker 5: on trial in two thousand and one, but only one
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Speaker 5: of them is convicted and sent to jail, and it
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Speaker 5: is in Diddy.
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Speaker 3: So Caleb Brantley, Daily Mail, hasn't Lopez been through enough?
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Speaker 3: And now she's got to worry about being called as
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Speaker 3: a witness because of Sean Coulms.
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Speaker 1: Hasn't this woman been through enough?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 7: Her dating history is something completely you know, separate, but
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Speaker 7: she called it the greatest love story never told. Her
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Speaker 7: story was been.
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Speaker 3: Out datum, fine, marry him, No, she doesn't marry the
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Speaker 3: next one that happens to go by.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a whole another program.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Nancy Grace signing off, Goodbye friend,