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- 0:00How you doing today? Here we go.
- 0:02Let's get this party started. I know the countdown says seven
- 0:05minutes and fifty some odd seconds, but let's not wait any
- 0:08longer. Let's get in, let's jump in.
- 0:12How's everyone doing today? Hope you have a great day.
- 0:16Hope you're having a great Monday.
- 0:17It is May the 2nd 2022 and we're going to be talking about Elon
- 0:22musk's SpaceX Starbase today and we're hoping hoping all the
- 0:27things will go through and the fááá's.
- 0:31Environmental assessment will be handled within the next.
- 0:35Month. Maybe, let's see, let's see
- 0:38though. Because, you never know because
- 0:40the FAA is there they're going to probably delay it like seven
- 0:45or eight different times, you never know.
- 0:47It could happen, you know, sometime in the next month or it
- 0:50could happen the next year, who knows with the FAA.
- 0:53But we did get one step closer and I'll talk about that.
- 0:55And it's just a second, Deb's. What's up egress?
- 0:58Your spats, your space pants, put on your space pants,
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- 1:34you know, it helps out with Basically bills to get down to
- 1:36Starbase bills of your trips to Florida bills for stuff.
- 1:40Like, in a lie, gas money, basically gas money to get
- 1:42anywhere because I love to be on the road.
- 1:44I love to travel and I love to shoot video and photos of
- 1:48launches and all that stuff. So, here we go.
- 1:51Let's, let's talk about this environmental assessment, a
- 1:53little bit today. Elon, and SpaceX have been going
- 1:58through a lot of trouble with the FAA.
- 2:02There's 18,000 pages of Comments, that people have
- 2:09submitted to the FAA and so Ilan and Starbase can get approval
- 2:16for the environmental assessment.
- 2:19Basically, that you have to look into Boca Chica where starbases
- 2:23and Elon wants to launch from there, wants to add a another
- 2:26large facility, another Tower there and a bunch of other stuff
- 2:29too parking lots and things like that.
- 2:32And you know the the FAA has to approve all this stuff because
- 2:37there's environmental impacts for anything you will ever do as
- 2:42far as building. So if you're going to build a
- 2:44house you know someplace or if you're going to put in a
- 2:47driveway, you're going to put in a new garage, something like
- 2:50that. Then there's going to be an
- 2:52environmental impact no matter what you do, right?
- 2:55So it could be as small as that or adding a fence to your
- 2:58property, it seems small, right? So adding a little little white
- 3:01picket fence around your house is seems like a small thing, but
- 3:04those things do impact the environment.
- 3:05I meant could impact. Whoa, Deb's.
- 3:07Thanks for the super chats. Appreciate that.
- 3:10So they just come up on the screen.
- 3:14So when, you know, when you get anything done to your property,
- 3:21including things like SpaceX, you know they have gigantic
- 3:24Rockets. I'm about 25 miles away from
- 3:27there. I go down there all the time, I
- 3:30see this giant Rockets, I see the building stuff and the, the
- 3:35amount of trucks that go in there.
- 3:36Go in and out of that. Place is ridiculous every day.
- 3:40It's a construction site. Think of it like a think of it
- 3:44like a port, right. So think of it as like a port
- 3:50for ships and there's always trucks come in and out delivery
- 3:53trucks Etc and they're always coming in and out and Audrey.
- 3:58Holy cow. Wow, thank you so much, Andre,
- 4:01appreciate that. It's going to be a lot of gas.
- 4:03Money to get to the launch is how you doing, man?
- 4:06Two launches, and to start base back and forth.
- 4:11So, thank you, Deb's, and Andre for your help, I really do
- 4:14appreciate it. It means a lot.
- 4:16I can't give you 20 rockets, and that's kind of an absurd amount
- 4:19of rocket launches for these Starships.
- 4:22But I usually do per dollar donated, I usually give you a
- 4:26Starship per dollar. So I thank you for that, but I
- 4:31can't give you 20 Starships. That's just it.
- 4:33A ridiculous amount of Starships.
- 4:36So thank you. Thank you so much.
- 4:38Andre, I really do appreciate it.
- 4:39I hope you're doing great and I gotta I gotta cut you off
- 4:42though, unfortunately. Here we go, get one more landing
- 4:45and then we'll cut you off. So it's fun to do these.
- 4:52And then like all of a sudden a rocket appears, you know, I'm
- 4:55looking at my monitor is over here and I'm like, okay, I
- 4:57disguise Super Chat and things. Just go crazy, right?
- 5:01So you know, there's tons of tons of construction going on
- 5:06down there. There's things happening in all
- 5:11the time all the time day and night.
- 5:13There's there's new people coming into the area.
- 5:16There's new trucks coming in the area from outside, the area, you
- 5:20know, they could be from hundreds of miles away and the
- 5:27fact that All that stuff comes into the area but also they have
- 5:30to build it up because more and more constructions going on down
- 5:33there and they want to be able to launch starships.
- 5:37It akkadian swear, it's two or three a week, right?
- 5:40And that is ridiculous, you know?
- 5:42Like that's a that's a crazy amount of launches per week,
- 5:45they want to have to launch Towers.
- 5:47They want, there's all sorts of infrastructure that they have to
- 5:49build down there. A new, they're going to build a
- 5:51little pond in order to make this all work that's going to
- 5:55probably feed into the noise suppression.
- 5:58System at some point and you know they have to get the
- 6:04environmental approval from the FAA and Jeff Francis.
- 6:07Thank you so much for another Super Chat.
- 6:09Wow! Thanks guys, I really do
- 6:11appreciate it. It's it means a the world to me
- 6:13that you guys are helping support, the shampoo the channel
- 6:15and helping to support the show. So thank you so much for that.
- 6:20Jeff, that's amazing. Now I'm going to give you a
- 6:23couple more of these and then we'll move on to the next thing
- 6:25which is this. Email that I got the other day.
- 6:29You know this is kind of a like we had a we had to talk about
- 6:32this the other day but we didn't really go into it too much.
- 6:35It was kind of a short thing after a 9 hour stream.
- 6:39So so I was kind of exhausted. I was like it's over thank God
- 6:46not that got the streams or but thank God.
- 6:47We have the information, you know that we have now?
- 6:50So there we go, one more Landing Jeff and there you go.
- 6:54So I want to talk about a little more.
- 6:56Get your guys. Your input on it.
- 6:59And just just have a discussion about it because I think there's
- 7:02a lot of discussion that can be had about these things and you
- 7:07know what, when the time frame is going to happen and things
- 7:10like that. So the FAA send me an email, the
- 7:14other day when they did all the things for Starbase when they
- 7:18send out all. The all the emails for Starbase
- 7:20the FAA is updating the release date for SpaceX Starship.
- 7:23Super heavy, final, programmatic environmental assessment that
- 7:26Peña and the Frederick Infrastructure permitting
- 7:28dashboard, the end, the project website, the FAA plans to issue
- 7:32the final pa pe a on May 31st. So basically, so if there's
- 7:40anything that can be damaged by starbases activities, by SpaceX
- 7:45is activities at Starbase Boca Chica.
- 7:49They have to look into this every little thing.
- 7:52So they had 18,000 comments. Okay.
- 7:57And I would love somebody to do the math.
- 8:01So many people have done different math, right?
- 8:05Different math. Everybody has different math for
- 8:07this. They're like a person sits down
- 8:09and they can read five of these per day and do comments and I'm
- 8:12like, okay cool and then they do all the math and they figure out
- 8:15that okay, that would only take 20 days or you know, whatever
- 8:17the math is. So you think so you think okay
- 8:22so that would only take 20 days but there's also the other
- 8:25factors To it as well. So, I mentioned a few of these
- 8:29things on Twitter, the other day, you know, and I made a poll
- 8:33on Twitter, and it was pretty, pretty sort of one way or the
- 8:37other. Like, either you're like, well,
- 8:38just get a little bit more time. They're not ready.
- 8:40Anyway, or the FAA is a corrupt organization, you know, in
- 8:44there, they go into some detail about that and how with x amount
- 8:49of employees they could have got this done in two weeks or
- 8:51whatever. And I have to remind people that
- 8:54people are people as well. Math is right there.
- 8:59So let's see. Okay and see Davis if they have
- 9:0110 full-time employees, I think they can easily average one
- 9:03page, every 15 minutes per person, 40 pages per hour, 40
- 9:08hours a week, eleven point two, five weeks is 18,000 pages.
- 9:13So it would have only taken them around.
- 9:16Let's just say three months to get this, done to read all those
- 9:18pages and get all that stuff done.
- 9:21So 10 full-time employees but to those, I have to Kind of step
- 9:28back a little bit from that. The 10 full-time employees are
- 9:32the only doing that and this is this is the thing that got a lot
- 9:36of people on Twitter. It's like, are they only doing
- 9:39that part of it, right? So, are they looking only at
- 9:42these pages that 18,000 pages? And that's it?
- 9:46Or do they have weird meetings? You know, does your Ma's, does
- 9:51your boss, come over to your your desk, tap you on the
- 9:53shoulder and be like, hey man, how's it going?
- 9:56There goes 10 minutes of your life, there goes, 10 minutes of
- 9:58this thing and also they have to write, you know, they have to
- 10:05write a response to every one of these.
- 10:07So if that includes the the response but also other meetings
- 10:11that happen, you have your lunch break.
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- 12:25Backblaze.com Ilan, Askins leg. Hey buddy, what's going on
- 12:30brother? You know and talks to you.
- 12:33You don't want them to but he's there.
- 12:34Anyway. You know, it's that guy that
- 12:36like these cool dude and he's like, he's just trying to, you
- 12:40know, have a good day but you're really like, you want to work on
- 12:43this stuff but he's not allowing you to because he talking to
- 12:46you. So the like all those things
- 12:50have to be factored in as well. So if it is 10 full-time
- 12:53employees, 15 minutes per Page and it's about 18,000 Pages
- 12:5811.25. Our so let's Spirit to fight 25
- 13:01weeks. That's three issues months.
- 13:05So it's the, the the other stuff that goes along with the to.
- 13:09So it could be four months, you know, just to get all this stuff
- 13:11done. Let's just, let's just like kind
- 13:13of if there's other things to do.
- 13:16Like, you might have to pick up your kids from daycare.
- 13:18You might, somebody might get sick.
- 13:21Somebody might go really. Somebody might be really slow to
- 13:26You know, there's there's so many other factors that go into
- 13:31it as well and plus there's interoffice Communications from
- 13:36the FAA with the other the other areas here.
- 13:39So the FAA doesn't work alone with this.
- 13:41You know they have Department of Commerce National or Oceanic
- 13:45Atmospheric Administration, NOAA Department of Commerce, Noah
- 13:49Department of interior fish and wildlife service.
- 13:52So they don't work just alone. So they have to talk to these
- 13:54other. Agencies within the government
- 13:58in anybody that sent an email to anybody in the government, it is
- 14:04expected of a response within any amount of reasonable time,
- 14:10knows, how horrible that is. Anything you want done anything
- 14:14you need done. If you've ever worked with the
- 14:16government agency at all. I've contracted with government
- 14:20agencies through my work. Like, I'm a coder.
- 14:23So I've worked with government agencies.
- 14:25Aziz we worked on their websites and things and the amount of
- 14:29time it takes for them to just email me back like, hey, would
- 14:32you like this to be done? You know, would you like this or
- 14:36this? I give them a really quick.
- 14:38Like would you like a or b? And then, you know, usually end
- 14:44in like a high like a fast-paced web development environment,
- 14:51everybody's working together? Everyone's on slack, everyone's
- 14:53like doing all their things together.
- 14:55At the same time, it happens almost instantly, right?
- 14:58Hey, do you want a or b? And then somebody look at them
- 15:00be like oh, a real quick. So getting you have to email
- 15:06somebody in the in the government, you can't just slap
- 15:09them, you know? It doesn't.
- 15:11Like that. So those people working
- 15:13together, Could take, you know, you send them an email and say,
- 15:18hey is this kind of work? Hey, could you take a look at
- 15:21this one? Because I'm not sure about this
- 15:23one. You know, those things could
- 15:25take extra you know, extra months.
- 15:28You know, an extra month just did just for the communication.
- 15:31I don't know. So this stuff that's happening.
- 15:34You know, if they were robots and they could just sit down and
- 15:38do the thing and just go through it, that would be the perfect
- 15:42scenario. But it's Always like hey you
- 15:46know, somebody has got sick, you know, or some, he's got food
- 15:49poisoning or, you know, my dog's my dog needs to go to the baby's
- 15:56my to the dog babysitter or whatever.
- 15:58So I have to leave a little bit early today or whatever it is
- 16:01you know. There's there's all the other
- 16:04human factors involved too and I'm not giving him excuses.
- 16:07I'm just saying like that's just how it is and that's unfortunate
- 16:11for us who really want. SpaceX to launch a Starship.
- 16:15But the good thing is they got one more thing done, right?
- 16:19So all this stuff, like let's just look down here, this is a
- 16:21graph down here that shows what has been completed and what
- 16:25needs to be completed, permitting, time table right
- 16:27here. And I'm sure some of you have
- 16:29seen this. Most of you probably have
- 16:30permitting time table below displays data is reported by
- 16:34agencies dates, for environmental review and
- 16:37permitting processes actions that are in paused or planned.
- 16:39Status are subject to change are not indicative of Of of projects
- 16:43final schedule. And I like this, too.
- 16:47That are in pause or plant status are subject to change in
- 16:49are not indicative of the projects final schedule.
- 16:52So I have to say that, it's like a disclaimer permission
- 16:55information about extension, select an action from the time
- 16:57table below, blah, blah blah, right?
- 17:00So all these things, these ones have been done, the
- 17:03magnuson-stevens fishery conservation and management act
- 17:06section 305 essential fish. Habitat consultation is done
- 17:09Endangered Species Act consultation is done okay so
- 17:13that one's done the endangered species consultation act
- 17:16complete We don't know the results of it, it could be a
- 17:20no-go, you know. These things could be, it could
- 17:22be a no-go. It doesn't mean that the
- 17:24complete, doesn't mean it's good.
- 17:27It just means that it's that paperwork has been completed.
- 17:31So does that mean that it's a go from The Endangered Species Act
- 17:36consultation? Noah nmfs, we do now will we
- 17:41won't know until they release it and they're supposed to release
- 17:43this next 5:30 Sorry the beginning of next month will get
- 17:48the the information from them and to this month beginning of
- 17:52next month. So this all ends if 5:30 20:22
- 17:56but they did complete the other day for 21 should have done for
- 18:0320, that would have been sick. Dude, The Endangered Species
- 18:08Act, scowl station DOI FWS. So Endangered Species Act,
- 18:13there's danger Turtles down. There's a, there's a danger of
- 18:15bird species Probably other endangered things down there
- 18:18that I'm not aware of because the place is massive, and it's
- 18:22swampy in, it's hot, and it's just like, there's so much stuff
- 18:27going on there, so many birds. Like I see, hundreds of birds
- 18:30want to go down there and I see all sorts of wildlife all the
- 18:33time. And that gives you go out by the
- 18:38beach, you'll see gulls and all sorts of things, but it in some
- 18:40turtles and stuff sometimes. But there are endangered
- 18:43turtles, they go there to to nest and I think they only go
- 18:46there to Ness. It's like one other place.
- 18:49What's there? And what other place, so SpaceX
- 18:51can work with the FAA and the endangered species.
- 18:58What are they called? Like this, the no excetera if
- 19:02they can work with them to kind of mitigate that, like, say, if,
- 19:05if they find out that the turtles are coming into Nest,
- 19:08don't launch anything? Don't do any major things.
- 19:12Whether it's testing cryo, tests, pressure test, status,
- 19:16Fires, any launches, they don't want to do that.
- 19:20I want to move any like, heavy machinery down by the beach,
- 19:22because it happens at Boca Chica.
- 19:25And it also happens, South Padre Island.
- 19:27So they nest at those two places somewhere in between they could
- 19:30find a different spot. And then, if they could work
- 19:32with the, the fish and wildlife organization that they could
- 19:38possibly mitigate that, that could be a mitigation strategy
- 19:40for SpaceX. So once this all goes through,
- 19:44whether it's good or bad SpaceX, we'll also again start working
- 19:48with, you know, the work with the FAA and all of these other
- 19:53agencies to make sure that they're they stay on task with
- 19:56these things because it's not going to be cut and dry.
- 19:59It's not going to be. Everything is complete SpaceX
- 20:01gets to build whatever they want to whenever they want to.
- 20:04They have a they have a plan. They have to stick with this
- 20:06plan and these people are going to oversee kind of that they're
- 20:09sticking to the plan. So in the future SpaceX will be
- 20:13working on just getting I'm getting the Starbase facility
- 20:21bigger and better. Of course, but first and
- 20:23foremost, they have to launch these things.
- 20:26They have to launch have to do an orbital launch of Starship
- 20:30and you know the it's that is a big big task right there.
- 20:36And SpaceX has a ton of ton of work to do still before.
- 20:59SpaceX still has a bunch of work to do too.
- 21:02So there's there's a ton of work for Starbase employees.
- 21:08People down in Boca Chica to get boosters ready to get Starships.
- 21:12Ready to get stage 0. Ready, that's one of the major
- 21:17things that SpaceX has been doing recently is working on
- 21:20stage zero. They had a router, a water
- 21:22Deluge test the other night. Basically, floods the launch
- 21:29stage zero area with water. So when a Starship launches the
- 21:36launched noise from the engines, doesn't affect the surrounding
- 21:41area. So that's one thing that this
- 21:44whole environmental permitting processes for as well is that
- 21:50they have to make sure that none of that water interacts with the
- 21:54environment. In a bad way.
- 21:57So SpaceX will be working with them to get that done to get to
- 22:00work on that and you know workers are there day and night
- 22:0524/7 all the time. So the vehicles coming in the
- 22:09vehicles going out all that stuff really does impact the
- 22:12environment down there not in a bad way so to speak but in a way
- 22:16that and we are were waiting for them to kind of figure it all
- 22:23out passing with your live video is gone.
- 22:26We are seeing Clips. Yes.
- 22:27I know I posted that up that's supposed to be like that.
- 22:30I know I'm not supposed to be on there.
- 22:33So yeah, let's take a second. I'm going to take a second and
- 22:36take a look through the chat real quick so we can talk about
- 22:40these things. So let me add myself back in
- 22:44here, too. So, let's see here.
- 22:49We got Andre. Everyone's doing great.
- 22:52Thank you, man. I really do appreciate you
- 22:54stopping by and hanging out. It means a lot to your stopping
- 22:59by again. Let me put myself down here in
- 23:05the corner. Put baby in the corner over
- 23:08here. There we go.
- 23:10Hey, there we go. I'm a hanging out by this
- 23:13booster. Yeah, so everything is
- 23:18everything is good if you have 10 full-time employees, okay?
- 23:20So you did that math is right there.
- 23:24Shares a screen, share your calculator.
- 23:26Oh yeah, I didn't do that. I was totally bad with that one
- 23:32comment could be a full line or a whole essay rate.
- 23:35That's exactly. That's that's part of the thing,
- 23:37right? So these comments that go into
- 23:39the FAA that have been submitted to the FAA.
- 23:42The fact that it could literally be like a small line, it could
- 23:47just be something really, really easy, really, really quick.
- 23:52And it could also be something really massive.
- 23:56It could be a whole front page or I mean, I don't know how
- 24:00long, what's the, what's the cutoff for the pages?
- 24:03But I mean, it could be a full page.
- 24:04So the the fact that somebody has to go through every single
- 24:09one of those lines has to approve.
- 24:11Every single, one of those lines has to write out something about
- 24:14every single one of those lines. Like This person thinks ABC XYZ,
- 24:21whatever they have to find out, like, what what's going on there
- 24:24and they have to write a response, you know.
- 24:26It can't be yes or no. It has to be like a thorough
- 24:29response. I'm assuming so 18,000 Pages,
- 24:32they read them all, it takes weeks to read them all, takes
- 24:35months to read them all, and then from there, they have to
- 24:38write it out. Have to do all the other
- 24:40paperwork, submitted to somebody who's probably in charge of it
- 24:43as well. So somebody whoever is in charge
- 24:46of That part of the process, then they have to approve it and
- 24:52then send it on up because it's the government.
- 24:54You have to have a bunch of red tape, right?
- 24:55Let's just that's just how it works.
- 24:57It's just how the system works and it's unfortunate but that's
- 25:01why checks and balances are there.
- 25:02And also I believe the FAA is doing this on purpose as in
- 25:07they're doing this to make sure that they do it right.
- 25:12You know they do it right the first time because if they don't
- 25:14do it right, the first time SpaceX Is going to sue them into
- 25:19Oblivion. So so if they can't launch from
- 25:22Starbase SpaceX, might have a legal foot to stand on and may
- 25:28just go wild, like set the lawyers Berserker mode, and go
- 25:33after the FAA and the government.
- 25:34So if that's the case, this will be hooked up in court for a
- 25:39long, long time. So that the fact that SpaceX is
- 25:43working really diligently on this as well with you.
- 25:47FAA that's important. But also the fááá themselves and
- 25:51the other institutions, you know, the section 106 review,
- 25:56still working on it. That's the section 106.
- 25:59Like, that's the only thing left and then there's the
- 26:01environmental assessment. And that's it.
- 26:03We're pretty close. We have three done out of 5, in
- 26:06its really, really close to being done.
- 26:09So there's a possibility that the FAA and section 106 review
- 26:14could be done in the next couple weeks, you know, they Could be
- 26:17done in the next couple weeks. They could release this early.
- 26:20They have a they have a end date of 5:30, but it could be less
- 26:25than that. They could also push it out a
- 26:26little bit further. They could if they need another
- 26:2815 days to go through all the Other response.
- 26:31The other other responses, there's a possibility that they
- 26:35keep going on with this. So yeah, it's a lot but I'm sure
- 26:41like Deb said, there's probably probably some people that are
- 26:43like go SpaceX and then for that one.
- 26:47You're like that's a yes, check that off.
- 26:51Or there's somebody probably that's like, you know, writing
- 26:53an essay like Deb says about, you know, a couple pages about
- 26:58how the Environmental. Acts of Starship and SpaceX are
- 27:02destroying the environment. And, you know, they don't want,
- 27:05you know, giant giant Rockets down there and also there's
- 27:09probably those in between to the people that don't really know
- 27:12how to communicate how they feel about this and the people that
- 27:16aren't really good at showing the facts of things so then you
- 27:23have to take that into consideration like is that a yes
- 27:25or is that a? No and then you might have to
- 27:28bring in other people and it could be Could be a whole
- 27:30process for that one. So yeah, there's there's all the
- 27:33in-betweens. I wish it were.
- 27:35I wish people were robots for this thing, these things.
- 27:37Or if I wish it were like, okay, we're going to leave this up to
- 27:40comment but the comments going to be yes or no, that's it.
- 27:45You know, like those are the only things like you can't argue
- 27:47you can just say yes or no. We want this here that would
- 27:49have been. It would have been done so much
- 27:51earlier but unfortunately, you know, well, I guess and
- 27:54fortunately to the system takes a while to get through.
- 27:58So On average, 15 minutes I think is fair and see Davis.
- 28:04I agree reading in 15 minutes, like, that's not too bad.
- 28:08So like you have a book, right? Have a couple pages in a book.
- 28:10Get through them pretty quick, but then you have to decide for
- 28:13people that aren't good writers, you know.
- 28:16So I always take the, I take the, the most, the easiest path,
- 28:22right? So you take the easiest path,
- 28:24which is okay, you know, 15 minutes per page.
- 28:28That sounds pretty good. That sounds pretty fair in.
- 28:30See, I agree with you but then you have to think there's got to
- 28:34be those ones that are just going to take you an hour to
- 28:37figure out, you know. But then there's other ones that
- 28:40take you a second or two. You like go SpaceX.
- 28:43Okay yes. And then there's the the person
- 28:44that writes a novel, you know, you're like oh come on man.
- 28:47I don't know what any of this stuff means.
- 28:50Like they re something, they're going through everything and
- 28:54they're like, oh man, I have no idea.
- 28:56I have no idea what this person is talking about.
- 28:58I Then you got to call somebody else over and be like, hey, do
- 29:02you know what they're talking about?
- 29:03Because I don't know what you're talking about.
- 29:05So those are the things that we have to take into consideration
- 29:08with the fááá's Peña of Starbase.
- 29:11It's a, it's a, it's a tough one.
- 29:14It's a really long process. It happens for every rocket
- 29:18facility to like Starbase isn't unique with this.
- 29:22You know, every other rocket company does building any sort
- 29:25of Spaceport whether it's You know, blue origin or it's Virgin
- 29:32Galactic anybody that's building a space port.
- 29:35You have to go through government regulations and you
- 29:37have to go through the environmental assessment.
- 29:39Sometimes it takes a couple days, you know, like sometimes
- 29:43it's just like well there's really nothing there, you know,
- 29:47a couple couple Gophers maybe underneath but whatever they'll
- 29:51just move like once they hear the rumble of the truck still
- 29:53move but also you know NASA isn't it?
- 29:58It's in a swamp. A environmental swamp so you
- 30:03know that place has been cleared.
- 30:05So I'm assuming they're going to clear Starbase.
- 30:08It's just that this has never been done before.
- 30:12This gigantic rocket has never flown before.
- 30:15The technology is not proven, this is a research and
- 30:19development project. This isn't a tried trued,
- 30:24trusted, NASA, space shuttle, you know, it's not like that.
- 30:29It's not it's not a rocket that's flown a hundred times.
- 30:32It's not a falcon 9 or a falcon heavy even this is a rocket
- 30:36that's never flown. The boosters never really been
- 30:40static fired yet. It's been tested with cryo, it's
- 30:44been pressure tested but it's never static.
- 30:46Fired a full static. Fire test, never so the fact
- 30:51that they're waiting on the environmental assessment is
- 30:54fine. Like that's fine.
- 30:55They still have a lot of work to do like a ton of work to do the
- 30:58boosters. Not Even ready, the ship isn't
- 31:01even ready is still in pieces. So you know, SpaceX still needs
- 31:06to build those things. And unfortunately, you know
- 31:09whether it's booster for, which I loved the 420 idea.
- 31:13I think that think that was awesome.
- 31:15I thought it would be funny because I'm 12, but the fact
- 31:20that some people were like, hey, booster for ship 20 were ready
- 31:25to go. Really, how do you know, are you
- 31:30an engineer at SpaceX? And if you are, please show me
- 31:33credentials because I think that would be amazing.
- 31:36I think it would have been amazing at booster foreign ship
- 31:3820 were able to fly, but there's a possibility.
- 31:42Ilan said he wanted them to fly but there's a possibility that
- 31:44they just looked at him and we're like, let's just wait for
- 31:47Raptor to Because raptor1 seems kind of sketchy, you know,
- 31:53raptor1, it's okay. But, you know, if we do, if we
- 31:57do launch raptor1 and something happens to it, we could just
- 32:02wipe out all of Starbase. Even though Ilan has said, okay
- 32:06it's not the explosions of this isn't going to be like a bomb.
- 32:09It's going to be like like a fireball more than anything.
- 32:13So The fact that something could happen to Steve 0.
- 32:19Something there's like all over the place, there's wires,
- 32:23there's pipes, there's a lot like Electronics, all over the
- 32:27place down there, like all over State 0 and the, the fact that
- 32:35you got to think about that stuff too.
- 32:36Could that possibly have happened to SpaceX during this
- 32:42launch, you know? Like if they launch for 20,
- 32:45Couldn't have destroyed most of Starbase, you know, or some of
- 32:52Starbase, you know, it could just set them back months, you
- 32:54know, if they launch 420 of raptor1 wasn't ready.
- 32:57So there's a possibility that that could have happened.
- 33:00Holy cow Jr. More, thank you so much.
- 33:03I approve the launch, go ahead and light it up.
- 33:05There you go. You get your launch buddy.
- 33:07There you go. J are get a bunch of Starship
- 33:09launches. So if you think about it, it
- 33:12makes sense, though, it makes sense if Stir for ship, 20
- 33:16weren't ready to go. This is okay, like this, this
- 33:19FAA kind of slowed everything down the booster 7 and ship 24
- 33:26if that's going to actually if those two are going to actually
- 33:29fly because the pipe and booster seven looks like it was crushed
- 33:33and are they going to fix it? I'm going to try to go down a
- 33:36little bit later today and see what they're going to do on it.
- 33:39I have an appointment a little bit so I gotta actually got to
- 33:42take off in like 5 or 10 minutes but the I would love to go down
- 33:46there today and see what booster sevens up to.
- 33:48So that would be really cool Jr. Again thank you for that.
- 33:52It's really helpful. Getting gas money to go to
- 33:56launches and getting gas money to get to Starbase.
- 34:00Super cool. Thank you so much.
- 34:02Really does help with all of that stuff.
- 34:05So thank you. Thank you, thank you.
- 34:07There we go. Jr.
- 34:08Thank you. So let's see where we going to
- 34:13scroll up a little bit. I don't want to miss anything
- 34:14passing. Nguyen.
- 34:15What's up and Dirty? Dancing reference?
- 34:18Exactly. Yeah I want to put my baby in
- 34:20the corner. Yeah.
- 34:25Pat swindall said it's funny because cape canaveral's in the
- 34:27middle of what? Any other time we would call a
- 34:29nature. Preserve.
- 34:30Yeah. And at that time, it was too.
- 34:31They had to go through environmental environmental
- 34:34checks down there to before they before they started building
- 34:37that, of course they said okay let's do this because it's a
- 34:39government sort of, you know, it's a more of a Department of
- 34:46Defense thing, you know, who gets to the moon faster,
- 34:49Russia's launching you know people Space you know thing
- 34:54satellites, you know all that stuff in the beginning you know,
- 34:57the Space Race kind of thing. So but they were like, let's get
- 35:00this done fast and they push it through.
- 35:02Now, do we have that sort of threat?
- 35:04Now, not as much, you know, not as much they're still, you know,
- 35:07they're still throwing things going on, but not as much as it
- 35:10was. People, were scared.
- 35:12They got the funding, they pushed it through.
- 35:14It took a while though, it didn't take, you know, there
- 35:18were probably postponements but the thing is back then we didn't
- 35:21know about it. Nobody really knew about it
- 35:24unless you really paying attention to it, because the
- 35:29speed of information is so much more acute now than it was back
- 35:36then. So, I don't know what the actual
- 35:38numbers are for. And the time frame was for the
- 35:42initial basically, groundbreaking of NASA compared
- 35:46to what the like when their environmental assessment
- 35:51started, but they had Pad 1 and if not they were disliking it,
- 35:54whatever you know it. Let's do it.
- 36:01Let's see. How are we doing here?
- 36:03Who else is here, Briana? What's up, Daniel?
- 36:06How you doing there? If there are any questions about
- 36:09the FAA method of work, Jeff who could throw his toys?
- 36:13The print, I can't. Yeah, exactly.
- 36:17My humble opinion. Jeff Francis says, I believe
- 36:20that it's being put off to to NASA.
- 36:21Can't get Their ship ready? I don't know.
- 36:25I wish I wish I had information. So that's the other thing, too.
- 36:29I wish that I wish that when you said things like that, not
- 36:33calling you on a particular, but I'm just saying like if somebody
- 36:36says that, they say, well if the FAA is postponing Starship, it's
- 36:41because of this. And I want to be logical about
- 36:44this and I want to be pragmatic about it as well.
- 36:47Is there a chance that the SLS and, you know, there's Um sort
- 36:52of, you know people higher up and saying, hey just give us a
- 36:58week or two. We got to get back out there
- 37:00before SpaceX does. I mean there's jerks everywhere
- 37:04right? There's everyone every single
- 37:07place you're going to work there's going to be one person
- 37:11that's kind of a jerk. So that person may have been
- 37:14like, hey guess what man? We got this isolettes project
- 37:17going on. Could you slow them down a
- 37:19little bit and then Corruption collusion.
- 37:25You know if anybody ever finds out about it that person's going
- 37:29to prison forever you know like those those things sue the FAA
- 37:33sue the government you know SpaceX would go nuts and I'm
- 37:37sure they would they would make a lot of money from that.
- 37:42So the government get billions of dollars for it.
- 37:45But if you think about it like this NASA has contracted SpaceX
- 37:49to use, Starship to get to the moon for the hls program.
- 37:54So, why would NASA in that sense?
- 37:57Try to hinder SpaceX from building the Rockets.
- 38:01It's going to send people to the moon.
- 38:03Now, it's going to set take people down to the Moon.
- 38:06I don't think they would. I don't think, I don't think
- 38:08that would be a good enough reason because our Rock, Rocket
- 38:12is better than your rocket or like get this done faster or
- 38:15whatever. I don't think that's a good
- 38:17enough. Reason for him to do it, a good
- 38:20enough reason would be you know you going to make millions of
- 38:22dollars from this, you know something like that.
- 38:24It's usually about money or power, right ID.
- 38:28Some any sort of corruption is usually about money or power.
- 38:30So the fact that if somebody would say that and say, hey,
- 38:36slow these guys down because our rocket is a competitor.
- 38:39Well, SLS isn't a competitor though.
- 38:42SLS is there working in tandem with SpaceX?
- 38:45They're working together. So is that really a competitor?
- 38:48And I don't think there's any beating of the chest between
- 38:51Starship and Artemis program. I think everyone works together
- 38:56pretty well SpaceX and NASA have been working together well for
- 38:59the last 10 years so I don't think it would ever change the
- 39:03relationship and if it did. Somebody would know about it.
- 39:07That's not us and somebody would be lawyer and up right now and
- 39:11some stuff would happen. So like some really Intense
- 39:17legal action would happen and we'd be privy to it because the
- 39:20new cycle that goes in before is really fast, so that you have to
- 39:27think about it in a really logical sense, like, would the
- 39:32would this benefit anybody? If SpaceX were to slow down,
- 39:37probably other rocket manufacturers, you know, but
- 39:41they're not really on the same level, right?
- 39:43So, something like blue origin, their billing there.
- 39:45Giant rocket SLS isn't a competitor blue Origins, a
- 39:49competitor, but blue origin and SpaceX kind of have the same
- 39:53goal at the end. You know, millions of people
- 39:56working and living in space. Like those are the things that
- 39:59SpaceX blue origin are working on.
- 40:02Are they competitive probably, you know, but they're also, you
- 40:05know, they're they're engineers and their their Space Geeks like
- 40:08everybody else. It's like I go down to Starbase
- 40:10and I film But I don't think it's competitive.
- 40:13Other people have other channels, they're better than
- 40:15mine, you know? So I'm not competitive with
- 40:18them. I just go down there and hang
- 40:19out, you know, I got on there and hang out and I'm like,
- 40:22whatever. Cool.
- 40:24I like I want to see. I'm excited to see their
- 40:27footage. You know what I'm saying?
- 40:28So I think other Engineers from what I've seen.
- 40:32I follow a bunch of Engineers on Twitter and I follow a bunch of
- 40:34Engineers on Reddit and stuff. From what I've seen is that NASA
- 40:38Engineers are super excited about Starship.
- 40:41Hip and SpaceX Engineers are also excited.
- 40:44About what NASA is doing was with SLS.
- 40:47So would they what people have chosen to do one of the other?
- 40:53Yeah of course like of course do I want to work for SpaceX?
- 40:58It seems grueling and horrible you know it some points like do
- 41:01it. It's going to be 100 degrees
- 41:03today literally it's going to be maybe not 100 but it's going to
- 41:06be let's find out. I'm gonna look at my phone, its
- 41:0887 degrees right now in Brownsville high of 90.
- 41:13There's a wind advisory today. Let's see what the wind advisory
- 41:17says. So these are the people that are
- 41:20working outside at SpaceX today. This is for them, 25 to 30 miles
- 41:25an hour with occasional gusts of 40 miles an hour as surveys.
- 41:29It's 90 degrees outside, plus the humidity.
- 41:33So it's about 100 degrees today. So people out there working at
- 41:37SpaceX, like I don't know if you want to work on a rocket, I'd
- 41:42probably want to be in an air-conditioned rocket building,
- 41:44like the vibe, you know, the Vehicle Assembly Building would
- 41:47be a way better place to work than on a Starship.
- 41:51You're not out in the, the crazy Texas heat.
- 41:53So some people are probably like, hey, it's cool that you're
- 41:55working on a Starship, but you know what?
- 41:58I got air conditioning. So there's probably, you know,
- 42:01there's there's back and forth, right?
- 42:04Yeah. It's it's a, it's a, it's a
- 42:07tough task for anybody to pick up and do the Starship thing.
- 42:13So I don't think they're competing.
- 42:14I don't think, I don't think SpaceX and NASA are really
- 42:17competing, I Working together and I think they're working well
- 42:20together I can take a look at the poll to did.
- 42:25You find crew for team in the thumbnail?
- 42:2860 percent said. Yes.
- 42:29Okay, cool. So the crew for our team, I put
- 42:33them in every thumbnail and I want to, I always kind of show
- 42:38them off at some point. I got to find them real quick, a
- 42:41defending the thumbnail, so I can show you guys because it is,
- 42:45it's silly. Like, every time I do it, it's
- 42:46it just makes me laugh. Ittle bit.
- 42:48So I keep them on there until they come home.
- 42:51And today's thumbnail, I want to show you guys this before I take
- 42:54off. So we've been doing this for
- 42:56about an hour now, so I have to go and do an appointment thing,
- 42:59t-there's, a new TFR for Starship to for SpaceX down here
- 43:03at Starbase. So let's see, I want to show you
- 43:05this TFR. There we go, there we go to FR
- 43:10real quick just so you guys know that it's happening, but it's
- 43:13really no big deal. They're just renewing.
- 43:15Their TFR up to 10,000 feet down.
- 43:18Starbase. And here we go.
- 43:19This is the TFR itself, April, 28 2022.
- 43:24So it's basically from May 1st to May. 31st 2022, does it not
- 43:29mean they're launching their not launching at this time, but they
- 43:32do have a keep out Zone around the rocket and around Starbase
- 43:37and airspace definition on the Brownsville Vortec blah blah
- 43:41blah. All this stuff to nautical mile
- 43:42radius around Starbase infected they met first At 10001 UTC up
- 43:51until May 31st. So no Pilots May operate an
- 43:55aircraft in the areas covered by the no Tam except as described
- 43:59the described. So supporting space apps Etc.
- 44:02So basically drones things like that but if you look at it you
- 44:06know you have a little little Starship there, I like how it
- 44:11looks like a Starship kind of to Right there.
- 44:14That's right. On the right on the coast there
- 44:16and basically don't fly your plane in there.
- 44:18Don't fly your things in there. It's up to 10,000 feet.
- 44:21So just want to show you guys that because that's pretty cool
- 44:24that they renewed that every monthly dinner every every time
- 44:28this thing, they need to renew it.
- 44:33Every every time it was that word, I can think of it.
- 44:37Anyway, let's look at this. Look at the, let's look at the
- 44:41thumbnail. Okay, so crew Or I put the crew
- 44:45that just went up to the space station on the thumbnail.
- 44:48Every time they go up and honor of them.
- 44:50And also be to make myself laugh every time.
- 44:52So, I want to show you guys this before we go, as you can see,
- 44:56Starship, beautiful, beautiful, absolutely gorgeous font.
- 45:02Starship. And then we have a picture.
- 45:04I took of fully stacked Starship, booster for ship 20.
- 45:09And then if you go over here you can see the little sign right
- 45:11down here. There's a sign Boca Chica down
- 45:15here in the bottom, right. You can kind of see it.
- 45:17And that's if you if you, if you drive down Highway 4 and on the
- 45:21right side after you pass the launch site, there's the dunes,
- 45:26and then there's the there's the the gulf right there just Beach.
- 45:30So you can walk up on the dunes A little bit is a little bench
- 45:33and little sign that says welcome to Starbase live.
- 45:40Something live live here tomorrow today or something like
- 45:43that. And then we have over here on
- 45:45top of the GSA tanks, we have crew for just hanging out.
- 45:51So yeah, I think I think it's a I think it's a funny thing that
- 45:56I like to do so. So if you found it,
- 46:00congratulations, you don't. Anything.
- 46:02There's no, there's no Prize or anything, but I thought it was
- 46:04kind of funny. I like to do it.
- 46:06I like to show everybody where they are at the end of the show.
- 46:08So thanks everybody for checking that out and trying to find like
- 46:12I want that to be sort of like an Easter egg for everybody, you
- 46:14know. So it's as fun.
- 46:17So thanks everybody for watching.
- 46:19I really do appreciate. You means a lot to me really
- 46:22means a lot to me. I just want to have this
- 46:24discussion because I know there's a there's a lot of
- 46:27misconceptions out there and misinformation out there about
- 46:31like why this is happening. Inning and how this is happening
- 46:34and things around that. So I want to sort of just open
- 46:38it up a little bit for you guys and there's going to be more
- 46:42Blue Man Group on top of the tanks.
- 46:44Yeah, there's gonna there's going to be more information
- 46:46about the FAA and the environmental assessment as the
- 46:51time goes on. So it's going to be happening
- 46:52throughout the last you know, the next month or so.
- 46:55And when we get to inform any more information for you, I'll
- 46:59make sure to post it here and on Twitter.
- 47:01So, Make sure to subscribe to the show.
- 47:03Of course, become a member, if you can Super Chat.
- 47:05Really helpful Jr. More.
- 47:07Thank you for the super chat today.
- 47:09I don't know if I'm going to catch everybody because I'm a
- 47:10little. Let me scroll up, Jeff Francis,
- 47:12Andre thank you so much. Welcome back, Andre Deb's as
- 47:15well. Deb's put on our space pants
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- 47:27I think that's like the join button or whatever.
- 47:29Think you can do that, too. So thank you so much for the gas
- 47:32US money everybody for launches and Starbase I want to go to a
- 47:37rocket launch in Florida. So that's my, that's my plan.
- 47:41I'm hoping to get to a rocket launch in Florida in June but
- 47:44we'll see. What if that works that would be
- 47:47really cool like a falcon 9 that would be really cool.
- 47:51So either it's going to be starlink or it's going to be
- 47:53another SpaceX launch but there's two in the beginning of
- 47:56June that I'm looking at so I'm hoping to you know do a
- 48:01fundraiser for those And then take the trip from here to
- 48:04Florida and I have some other stuff in the future as well that
- 48:07I have to tell you guys about, but that will be another
- 48:09episode. So thanks everybody.
- 48:12I really appreciate everybody. And thank you so much for
- 48:15becoming part of this community. You're amazing.
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- 48:33much. So all those things, all those
- 48:36things Charlie, how are we one? Step closer one quick thing.
- 48:40The Endangered Species Act consultation is complete.
- 48:44So that part right here, just because you have that, that
- 48:47question, right here, this thing is going to be been completed so
- 48:51that was, you know, it happened a couple days ago, so it's not
- 48:57to let you know about it and then that's The Endangered
- 48:59Species Act consultation DOI. S.
- 49:03So that's done one step closer. One more, check, mark complete.
- 49:08So thank you everybody for tuning in today.
- 49:11And here's our ending screen. I'm going to make a cooler
- 49:14ending screen like the best ending screen you've ever seen
- 49:16but right now we're going to go to this.
- 49:20Thank you to these people who have been part of the show in
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- 49:28by being it. Yes Pam those Rockets Kenya and
- 49:31chat. That'll be awesome.
- 49:32I want to see as many Rockets as I can W.
- 49:35Amazing. The Spam The Living heck out of
- 49:38them. But if I can spam 20, yeah, I
- 49:42can spam a, I'll approve all Spam as well so it can go
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- 49:48there. Dave stencil David borucki, Peru
- 49:54Chi David Little John William County, you know, Virginia Gary,
- 49:57Debs Mick, tonic Fox gaming, everybody who's super chatted
- 50:02today. Thank you so much again again,
- 50:05Jr. More Jeff Francis Andre Debs.
- 50:11Thank you so much. Deb's with the spam coming in
- 50:15hot been reek. Thank you.
- 50:18Coming in hot. Oh yeah, passing wind.
- 50:23Yes. Deb's is great.
- 50:25Passing wind says nice. Nice.
- 50:29We should start a span of you should definitely start like a
- 50:33Like an emote spam thing, like a rocket spam or something.
- 50:37Every time we go live. I think it'll be fun.
- 50:41I know if you guys will get blocked though, space are
- 50:43SpaceX. YouTube is kind of iffy about
- 50:47spamming so we'll see. Thanks guys.
- 50:53Appreciate you, take care and I'll see you next time, Monday,
- 50:56Wednesday and Friday at noon CST And other content as well.
- 51:01Take care.