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Pittsburgh Game Recap · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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  I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler.
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  How you doing tonight, buddy? Doing good, man, the 49ers
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  didn't play today so that had absolutely zero stressors
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  throughout the day. Yeah, fantasy team.
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  If I should well, you should go look at the league and see how
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  many IRS or P UPS or no games this week that are on my bench
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  and I still broke 100. With guys like Tim Patrick,
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  Robbie Anderson and dmytryk Felton, Robbie Anderson saved
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  your day on that last Drive touchdown catch.
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  Patrick had a touchdown to so I'm probably not going to win,
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  but the boys were given some effort out there.
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  Little golf clap for your effort.
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  Well, I'm I'm watching my Braves.
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  Try to put the Dodgers in, 2002 whole.
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  Yeah, I got to look at my Colts. Finally, get back on track
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  against the Texans today. I myself have been under the
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  weather today but I'm here tonight.
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  We're going to get this done. It's going to be, it's not going
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  to be fun, but it's going to be, I think, Us Airy.
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  And I think we're going to talk about some things that really
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  need to be said and kind of push forward.
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  I think on where we need to go, we're not going to talk a lot of
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  specifics about the game just because I think everyone kind of
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  has rehashed that enough in the last couple days.
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  We're going to get talk a little high level about what we saw and
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  what we thought. But most of this is going to be
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  a temperature, check in this era of hokey football and it's it's
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  it. We're going to, we're going to
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  have a A little later. After we discuss the game four
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  from the post game and then there's an arc there and their
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  points were going to hit all along.
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  And but before we get into the getting upset news, we did gain
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  a commitment over the last week right here, from the 804 right
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  here, down in Chester the five and one Thomas Dale, team
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  Malachi Madison 63 3310, I do not think it least.
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  The weight part is incorrect, seeing some of his videos.
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  I think he's ever been of a 300-pound kid.
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  He's a three-star guy and, you know, two guys that we'll talk
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  about later with Ryan Smith and JC price, where his primary and
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  secondary recruiters, what are you seeing from this big guy
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  from those highlight tape run? He's a guy that Already built
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  exactly what you want for this type of system that can still
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  he's got, he's got a motor inside the tackles there, he can
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  move, he'll get after you. Like I said, the thing I like
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  the most is that he's coming in size, ready?
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  Ready to go. Probably even a little better
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  shape than even when when fuga came in at a similar size.
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  So I think he's a guy that probably could push for some
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  rotational snaps here one and you know by year, 2 2 & 3 is
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  going To be making a significant impact for the defense.
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  Awesome. To hear that.
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  And again, another Virginia kid and Kylie, I'm looking here now.
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  One, two, three. 45. Six, seven, eight, nine, nine of
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  the 23 commits. We have our in-state guys.
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  Obviously, a couple of the top 10.
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  And as much as we've lauded, and we're going to absolutely rip
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  some things apart tonight. You know, I really think thanks
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  to Justin Hamilton JC price, Ryan Smith, Adam Lichtenberg
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  we're still 19th in the country. And I think, if you look at the
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  Arc of the players left, I don't think we're falling out of the
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  top, 30 in less when things happen.
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  Like we probably are assuming they happen at the end of the
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  season unless there's some guys that completely jump.
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  All ship. I think we're going to have a
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  top 30 class and that's good for who hopefully the new regime.
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  Yep. And we're going to be talking
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  about that in a little bit. Yeah, let's start by talking a
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  little bit about the game itself.
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  Whoo, What can we say? Bleeping pissed.
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  I literally put on shows on. This is my notebook folks will
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  show you the inside contents of it.
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  Literally after the first half, I said the season is over.
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  Bleep. This.
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  That's how mad I was. I went out.
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  Talk to my wife, we decided what we were getting for dinner.
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  Made our kids, some dinner here at the house.
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  My mom was gone. You called me for a vent
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  session, only get dinner, I did me and Ron had a session in the
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  rest of the night. I watched a little bit of the
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  other gangs hung out with my wife, you know, about you.
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  After that first half. Yeah, I mean we ended up kind of
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  settling in decided we want to do for dinner, grab dinner, I
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  ended up throwing the game on the iPad and we watched
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  Halloweentown with with my son. So that's how hard I went all.
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  Sometimes, what's going around? Let's let's let's hit the
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  defense first in something that you driving to the restaurant.
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  I thought you told me, it's like if you told me we take away
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  certain plays in. Did you say Saw we're going to
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  be in this game. Yep and we did a good job of
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  kind of taking away what pit like to do.
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  We actually did a pretty good job of kind of stopping a lot of
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  the over the middle stuff that they like to do and some of the
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  routes that Mac it had a lot of success with there wasn't a ton
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  of those and more or less kept their receivers from completely
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  dominating the game. That was a shocker.
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  I didn't I didn't think for four quarters that we would have been
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  able to do that. I know game Flow, they kind of
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  went away from the past good about in the second half.
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  They didn't need it after that. Fret that opening drive
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  touchdown in the second half. They didn't really need to swing
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  the ball around much anymore, but I thought we did a good job
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  overall where I thought we struggled was setting the edge
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  in the Run game. We did a good job.
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  They were running up between the tackles, we did a pretty bad job
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  when they were bouncing it outside and making sure that
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  those you know, PR gains didn't turn into first downs to off and
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  they were either 8-yard gains first down runs.
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  Yeah. Yeah, nothing.
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  Nothing gassing. But bad enough, where you're
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  keeping your defense on the field longer than you like, how
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  much does that go into Bronwen knowing the type of passing a
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  Attack that they have. How much is it?
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  Where how much is it easier for an offensive lineman to set the
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  edge? When you know they feel like
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  we're still passing because it one point it was 21-7 right?
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  Yep was 21-7 the game was not put away 21-7.
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  Excuse me? No 28-7.
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  They got their touchdown on the opening drive of the second
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  half. But how easy it was it to run
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  when you know you're playing a passing team and it's like well
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  they're going to be coming up field.
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  How much easier is that for an offensive line?
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  It really depends because you still want to stop the
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  penetration, but they did a good job in their kind of outside
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  zone game. Kind of funneling us where we
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  needed to would then, again, the edge was solved.
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  And I think some of that was by Design just because we were
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  trying to stop some of the stuff, the, the passing game in
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  the middle of the field, and I think those responsibilities
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  ended up going by the wayside a little bit.
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  And you know, there wasn't there was a couple times where we were
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  there and we just took a bad angle and there was a couple
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  times where we were there and we just didn't keep keep that
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  outside leverage the way we needed to and you know they got
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  a running back that while not you know necessarily a game
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  changer has good speed and he was able to get to the edge a
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  lot and impact the running game that way.
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  Like I said, he didn't do anything that was hurting us in
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  terms of big plays but it was just a gash here.
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  Gasps there that kept him on the field and that really kind of
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  played a role in the first half, they be open to extend drives
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  especially as they closed out the the first half there and
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  then it impacted Us in the second half where we couldn't
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  get them off the field especially on that one.
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  Big drive to that really close out the game.
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  Exactly. The one in the second half that
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  are in the fourth quarter that literally laughs I like 10
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  minutes, you know, 28 if you would have told us the defense
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  held's to 28, I think me and you probably sit here on Wednesday
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  night and say then we might actually win the game me and you
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  pegged it, you know, we roughly pegged it that we would be
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  riding the mid-20s. They'd be in the 30s.
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  I do think. If the game Flow had been true,
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  we had been more competitive offensively.
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  What you're going to turn to in a second here?
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  I think they probably get to 35, maybe 38.
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  Yeah, just because I mean they, they were definitely Able to sit
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  on their lead in the most of the second half.
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  So he just shocking for nor doozy because it seems like he's
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  always loved to run the score up on it.
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  But I think you made this note in here Brian and it sums it up.
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  Perfectly the defense did everything possible to keep us
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  in this game. If we saw how that game Flow
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  when in the first half, It would not have shocked me if it has
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  been 35 nothing. Yeah.
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  Yeah, the defense was able to get off the field on a couple
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  good three and outs. They were able to get them off
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  the field early in a drive, a couple other times, gave the
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  offense, a bunch of opportunities especially early
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  in the game with some shorter fields, and just did nothing to
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  capitalize on it. All right, so let's flip to the
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  offense because I'm going to piggyback off that from going to
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  the defense. That first drive, we kick it to
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  them. We three-and-out them.
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  We send a, we almost get to the punt.
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  Their punter, short legs, it. We get it at the 50.
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  They let you sit here in your, like, if you had asked me in
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  opening set of four plays against that offense, like it's
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  perfect. Stop them, almost blocked.
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  It got a great field. What the offense did was
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  literally just ugly. They piss down their leg all the
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  way. It was.
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  It looked plain. It looked Bland and you know,
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  Brian. You put on here and you kind of
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  mentioned it last night. There's no sense of urgency is
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  just like, oh yeah, let's run these plays.
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  That everybody knows we run. I mean they knew how we were
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  going to attack them and they invited in a lot of ways, right
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  with that Pressman. Yeah and we you know, we went
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  there and the problem wasn't necessarily that the opening
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  drive was bad in terms with the sequencing but as the game went
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  along especially in the first half, we showed zero Plan B.
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  When those kind of shots down the field work and Acting, we
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  didn't have a counter punch. There was nothing.
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  Nothing that the offense was doing nothing that the play
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  caller was doing to change what was happening on the field.
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  It was essentially, these shots are going to work or we're not
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  moving the football and we didn't to the tune of what 61
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  yards in the first half. Total offense?
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  Yeah, it was it was it was one of the worst first halves of
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  offense I've ever watched. And I've watched a bunch of
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  bronstein spring called games and that one I was pulling my
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  hair out and then it got to a point where it was so bad.
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  The first half, like I was I reached full on apathy by the
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  second half, I was like, all right, whatever it is game is
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  what it is at this point and that's sad because I mean the
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  fans saw it to, we saw, you know, we're pretty much a half
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  empty Lane stadium. That started the second half.
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  Yeah. Yeah, most of the student
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  section was gone. A third of the the other stands
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  were empty. It was it was a very sad
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  situation and it's sad that we're that we're getting to
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  this. And, you know, let's go ahead
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  and talk about the last piece of the offense that I think that we
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  have not had success in this year and it was evident again
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  against Pitt. We did an awful job of
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  establishing the line of scrimmage as an offense.
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  I'm not sure. I mean, we obviously know that
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  the talents of Christian Darris all we knew that that Doug
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  Nestor was a solid starter. I did not anticipate this degree
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  of drop-off in the offensive line and it's not just, it's not
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  just the Khalil Herbert has amazing vision and timing and
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  the ability to break the big play.
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  That's definitely a factor. But they're not getting any
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  movement at all. There's no movement the sneak
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  with forth and like inches where you normally see because you
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  know, the snap count, right? Brian.
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  We're going to be able to at least get the get a slight push.
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  They got outside. I'll tell you what it is and I
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  looked at it. I know you know, French I know
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  French talked about it too but Brock snaps.
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  Under Center the same way. He snaps and shotgun.
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  What does that mean? So, he drops his ass too much
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  meaning that he's rocking back in his stance, which when you're
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  running in shotgun, and you're probably running outside zone or
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  inside zone or something where you're doing a reach step or
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  Zone step, or you know, some some sort of Either lateral or
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  potentially even giving ground on your step to get an angle on
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  a Defender. Okay.
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  When you're under Center you're trying to drive off in short
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  yardage, that's a completely different mindset and it may
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  just looks like they haven't read that enough where they
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  coached him to change. How he goes about the business
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  in that scenario. Okay, thank you.
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  I'm now visualizing that and kind of thinking and thinking
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  about what in a Zone scheme would an offensive Center is
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  having to do, so that does make sense.
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  So why this brand or not? This, if he's not good at that,
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  why not on fourth and one? Aren't you just You know,
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  running something like an inside Zone where at least it's not
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  counterproductive to what he's doing, like listen put in Jalen
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  Holston, you know lineup, you know, Gallo in the backfield is
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  an HVAC and let's just choose a hole and run it down hill under
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  Center. Yeah, and that's a problem
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  because what's happening is that Brock has no forward drive
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  because because of the snap, So therefore you're literally
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  relying on essentially Brock's raw strength and Braxton riding
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  behind him. Plus whatever.
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  Let's see. Des or Caden.
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  More were able to get push to get that first down.
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  I like the fact that we're going under Center.
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  That's us, that's a smart move but if you're not going to coach
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  them up to the point where they can execute it, then it doesn't
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  really matter. It doesn't It's kind of like
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  saying we're going to be a vertical passing team, okay?
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  Our quarterback can throw the ball 30 yards and don't think a
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  vertical attack is going to be exactly what we should do in
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  these cases. Yeah.
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  And we said we had to take some shots against this defense
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  because you have to because they invited they are not going to
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  get a ton of other real estate of in other places on that
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  defense. But what you can't do is that in
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  a windy environment with a quarterback that doesn't have
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  the strongest arm in the world. Just take shots for 30 minutes.
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  Know that again, no adjustment, no adjustment to anything on the
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  offensive side of the ball throughout the game.
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  They invited it. Yes, you're having struggles.
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  There's when practicing is banged up and you really didn't
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  see much of a change in that goes into probably a lot of the
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  stuff we're about to get into, Braun.
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  Anything else on the game before.
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  This segment. No, I'm good.
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  But all right, but we get into the main topic, The Arc of this
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  Now back to the episode All right.
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  So while driving back from the restaurant last night, I got to
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  hear some of the postgame into a reading on that.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  That's what absolutely. Yeah, through about to soar
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  about to talk about and this is what I caught and then it just
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  reading it and thinking about it overnight.
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  And when I woke up this morning, it made me think about let's get
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  into this art because what he said was It's my responsibility.
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  It's my job to get us to play as good as we can play to whatever
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  level that is. It's my respond, he accepted the
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  responsibility. That essentially he screwed up
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  and my thing is this, it's true. It's absolutely true.
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  That being a head coach. It is game day.
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  Preparation is 100% responsibility to head coach,
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  but it's not the only responsibility of the head
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  coach. Yep.
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  And as for us, I think the way we feel Are where we are because
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  of not just gained a preparation, but essentially
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  multiple aspects of it of this coach Stan, and what?
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  It's all the things that are leading into the product on Game
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  Day, right? It's not just getting I'm not
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  getting the guys ready week to week.
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  It's everything that's leading into that and I'll let you, I'll
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  let you roll with the first point here.
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  Well, the first point, I'm going to make is this before we gonna
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  do the first point. This podcast at various dates
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  and November of twenty twenty said, the man should be fired.
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  Yep, the man should have been fired.
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  My tea leaves and everything that was going on.
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  It looks like that was going to happen and then we beat UVA in
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  15 games and somebody pulled the plug on.
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  I don't know who it was. And maybe one day we'll find out
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  but the first thing Brian and it's the big Bugaboo its
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  recruiting. And and now stories have started
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  coming out and things are being known.
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  And the first point I hit here, Is you start hearing from
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  certain coaches, the Andy bitter article and we'd heard this
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  through the grapevine through other people, saying that
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  basically our head coach does not consistently communicate
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  with top prospects. At least not to the degree that
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  other quality staffs are doing and even some in the state.
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  Especially, I mean, it's not like, more or less that we cure
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  need o to you. In particular, is is doing a
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  pretty bang-up job with communicating pretty much with
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  with 804 757 and Nova there, they were hit or miss with some
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  of the other coaches that were a part of that article, but that
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  makes sense. I mean, there's, you know, they
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  don't need to, they need to focus on the areas where they
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  can get kids to come in, they don't need to cast that wide net
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  necessarily in the state. Unless there's guys that are
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  kind of falling through the cracks for some of the other
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  power 5 schools. Absolutely.
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  But because I say in, you know, What this leads to though is
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  your underlings, your assistant head coach has potentially
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  taking lead in, not doing things similar because for a top
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  prospect. If the head coach is calling
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  twice a week and I'm the o.c. or I'm the primary or the secondary
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  Cooter, I better be calling four to five times a week, but this
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  is the classic lead, by example, situation being what it is.
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  You damn, right. It is so if he's calling once or
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  twice a month, And I'll call once a week and there you go.
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  You start slipping, you start losing building the
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  relationship, so there's that. All right, let's go with this
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  because this is, we know this happen.
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  The mistakes that were made with the in-state relationships and
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  now the subsequent attempts to repair the in-state
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  relationships. Yep.
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  That was known a few years ago. And the issue though, is, if you
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  come in and get those relationships, well, off the
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  bat, you're potentially starting to get those kids.
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  You don't have to repair. Yep.
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  End, and some people said, yeah, but it's being repaired.
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  That's a good thing. Yeah, it's a good thing that the
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  amount of energy now you're having to take to repair those
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  relationships and now you're having to, you know, we always
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  we will back to jepara Parker, right?
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  If we had taken some walk on preferred walk-on or taking some
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  kid out of Highland Springs, Thomas Dale Oscar Smith five
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  years ago, six years ago, when this man first got here, You
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  would consistently have your shots at those two four-star
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  kids out of Highland Springs. That went to Oklahoma.
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  Yep. and I think that's the problem is that, you know, it
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  shouldn't have happened to begin with the, the bridge is
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  shouldn't have been burnt and it wasn't just, it was a
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  combination of two things, right?
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  It was what's, what was perceived as deliberate snubs of
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  certain prospects and then it was just a general lack of
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  attention to the high schools in general.
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  And the combination of those two things soured a lot of prospects
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  on staying home and that, you know, that in and of itself
• 25:27
  probably wouldn't have been a big deal.
• 25:28
  But while all of this was happening, obviously, Penn State
• 25:33
  starts creeping down into Virginia, North Carolina, Matt
• 25:36
  comes back starts, getting up into Virginia Clemson.
• 25:41
  Alabama or fish you stay. Reaching into Virginia, you've
• 25:48
  got those guys were stepping up their game.
• 25:53
  At the same time we were pretty much, you know, taking a pass on
• 25:59
  the majority of the state at least in the way that we should
• 26:01
  have been hitting it. Exactly the way we should have
• 26:04
  been hitting it. In the way we should have been
• 26:06
  hitting it, is, are you going to be able to get every five star
• 26:10
  kid? No, because, right now, the way
• 26:13
  the state's leaned as people want to leave and that's but
• 26:17
  what it does if you're getting a pwo or you are you know, the two
• 26:23
  star kid who Is an okay player offering him?
• 26:30
  Well, it helps you build that relationship with the Lauren
• 26:33
  Johnson's with Chris down at Oscar Smith, with all the
• 26:38
  coaches because you said you were going to football player to
• 26:40
  be on scholarship, more and give them a chance.
• 26:43
  And it's a, it's a heck of a lot easier to walk into someone's
• 26:47
  office and their kid who maybe had two or three FCS offers and
• 26:53
  maybe one small Max school or something.
• 26:56
  You give him that offer it immediately opens the line of
• 27:00
  communications. All right, Brian, this is yours
• 27:03
  right here, buddy. How about some unbalanced
• 27:06
  classes? Yeah.
• 27:09
  Yeah. That is the big big problem with
• 27:13
  with our roster right now is that we've been stacking.
• 27:17
  Its combination of two. Things are going to talk about
• 27:18
  that. Very next step here, but
• 27:21
  unbalanced classes. So we are stacking players at
• 27:24
  positions and then you can, you can you can give me the fist
• 27:29
  pump. I saw, Matt suggest K the kid.
• 27:31
  Yeah, that was a big. Big big get out there.
• 27:37
  We gotta Double ought to start the inning, got a Sac fly to
• 27:42
  move into third, and then we get to two back-to-back strikeouts
• 27:45
  to close it out. So that was nice.
• 27:46
  That was nice. All right.
• 27:48
  So unbalanced classes, okay, taking five wide receivers in
• 27:55
  the class, then turn around and taking five defensive ends in a
• 27:58
  class five running backs in a class.
• 28:03
  I mean, what's the purpose of having 10 scholarship, running
• 28:07
  backs? There is no purpose at most.
• 28:11
  You're going to have one running back on the field at one time.
• 28:15
  Even if you were going heavy rotation and I mean, I'll say
• 28:18
  heavy rotation. Where Bob guys 56, I'll say six,
• 28:24
  like you have the all-around that's a heavy rotations.
• 28:28
  I'm just saying that's what I will say it out loud.
• 28:31
  You have, you have to all around guys, right?
• 28:33
  They can do a little bit of everything.
• 28:35
  They can run inside outside. They can they can catch some
• 28:38
  passes. Did you have your heavy guys
• 28:42
  short yardage situation guys? Which we still don't understand
• 28:46
  how to put the right size, guys, in four short yardage situation.
• 28:50
  So, two of those. And then these are my more pass
• 28:54
  catchers. If we're going to run them, was
• 28:56
  probably gonna be outside. The numbers are going to run
• 28:58
  outside Zone. Sweeps 6, I'd say five to six is
• 29:04
  maximum number of running backs. You need on a Collegiate roster.
• 29:09
  And we got me, even if even if you're even if you got one or
• 29:13
  two on there that you want to Redshirt like by Design like
• 29:18
  seven, maybe eight maybe ten never to.
• 29:22
  And if you got, if you got 10 on the roster and I'm not trying to
• 29:27
  knock this class this year and I've got that up still.
• 29:30
  So I'm going to look at. We got 10 on the roster right
• 29:32
  now and we've got Ramon Brown. And we've got Bryce Cube.
• 29:41
  Dip, so no one leaves, which I think the only genuine Holston
• 29:45
  would be the only one who would be eligible to leave because of
• 29:48
  how old he is. I think heymann them still have
• 29:51
  a chance, 11, you know, it's and it's the thing is, it's, well,
• 29:57
  we have the scholarships to give and it's like, yeah, but you're
• 30:00
  devoting your resources to recruiting that position, the
• 30:05
  devoting your resources to recruiting that position,
• 30:07
  devoting your obviously time and effort, And devoting the
• 30:12
  scholarship like why are we giving scholarships to positions
• 30:16
  that we're already set at? Yeah.
• 30:20
  It's truly. Like, I'd much rather throw a
• 30:23
  scholarship to a borderline you know, three star Talent at a
• 30:30
  position that we need. Then keep stacking running
• 30:34
  backs. Just just because they're
• 30:36
  willing to come to Virginia Tech or where depth truly.
• 30:40
  Chatters. Yeah, me, there's three
• 30:43
  positions that you can never get enough of offensive linemen
• 30:47
  defensive lineman and secondary players, because secondary
• 30:50
  players, you can have a kid who's playing Corner potential.
• 30:54
  He can move to safety. If he doesn't have the skills,
• 30:56
  get and vice versa. Yep.
• 30:58
  Um, if everybody go back in the day, Kam Chancellor started as a
• 31:01
  corner and he was solid there, but he became spectacular as a
• 31:07
  safety. Those three positions because at
• 31:10
  any one time, there's going to be Five Guys on a field at four
• 31:15
  to five guys on the field. So we'll get into the player
• 31:18
  retention and a few other things later on that, and Brian, here's
• 31:21
  the one. I've kind of noticed And I'm
• 31:25
  going to go back with a kid here from the r-va that you coached
• 31:27
  against that. We watch develop over a decade
• 31:31
  ago. Anton, Aksum was a three-star.
• 31:34
  Kid coming out of a Deep Run. Played quarterback, played
• 31:38
  Safety. It was classified as an athlete.
• 31:43
  No one knew where he was going to play when he came out.
• 31:46
  Some people thought running back, maybe he's a wideout you
• 31:49
  know if he grows a little bit he could probably be a linebacker.
• 31:53
  Maybe a corner. We're not recruiting just going
• 31:57
  out there and looking at a kid who might be playing quarterback
• 32:00
  and free safety. Look at their body type and
• 32:03
  saying, this kid is an athlete. He has he's built, he's 61, he's
• 32:10
  205 pounds, he's fast. He has good agility.
• 32:15
  Wouldn't find a place to put him and with this staff to me, and
• 32:19
  if I'm wrong, somebody please DM us and tell us, I don't feel
• 32:24
  like we Fruit like true athletes and just looking through this
• 32:28
  year's, you know, I'm looking, I don't really see anyone that's
• 32:33
  really an athlete actually. I don't think anybody's
• 32:36
  classified as an athlete. No, I'm going.
• 32:40
  I'm going, I'm going, I'm almost to the top. 23, commits zero.
• 32:45
  Classified it athlete. Yeah, and we definitely used to
• 32:51
  look at that more. I know that with 24/7 diving, a
• 32:55
  little bit deeper, there are fewer true athletes in a
• 33:00
  recruiting class now than there used to be there at least
• 33:03
  slapping a position on them even if it's not necessarily you know
• 33:09
  written in stone, right? But I'm with you because some of
• 33:15
  the best players that have walked through that tunnel had
• 33:19
  I've been guys, we didn't know exactly where they were going to
• 33:22
  play when they were being recruited.
• 33:24
  They were just damn good athletes.
• 33:27
  They were players. They were guys on their team
• 33:30
  that that got it done and I just don't see us doing that.
• 33:37
  But when we talk about recruiting, the other thing that
• 33:41
  we got to talk about with with recruiting and it's it goes into
• 33:44
  the depth. Is that player retention, right?
• 33:47
  Water percent just before we get to play retention 24/7.
• 33:51
  Currently has 157, guys. Classified as athlete.
• 33:54
  Under now E7, that's a small number compared to how many kids
• 33:58
  are going out, but Brian hundred percent right after recruiting,
• 34:02
  it's getting them in the building developing and
• 34:05
  retaining them. It doesn't matter if you recruit
• 34:09
  them and everybody leaves the next year.
• 34:11
  But let's start with the biggest problem room right now for us.
• 34:15
  It's a quarterback room. Yeah.
• 34:17
  How many years have proven? They been here.
• 34:21
  How many quarterbacks have started a game for us six that
• 34:25
  same number of years? That's bad.
• 34:29
  That's bad. Eh.
• 34:33
  Actually let's take Kenny Pickett.
• 34:36
  Okay, Kenny F and picket, can he pick it?
• 34:39
  Has been at Pitt for three years.
• 34:42
  He has started for three years and he actually has played for.
• 34:47
  He got some time when 2018. So he's seen the deal for years.
• 34:51
  He's had the same offensive coordinator for the last three,
• 34:56
  and Kenny pick. It is you was we said Brian.
• 35:00
  Never we, I still don't feel like he has the highest ceiling.
• 35:03
  But he never had a terrible floor.
• 35:06
  No, right? And out the out, the gate, he
• 35:09
  was a solid player with enough F, lettuce is mm2 key.
• 35:12
  Plays alive extend plays or do that Scramble for a first down
• 35:17
  when you need it. It was always that guy.
• 35:20
  He was always the always through a pretty accurate ball as well.
• 35:24
  You know, the the issue that, you know, we saw it with Kenny
• 35:28
  Pickett is that for a while there he wasn't going out there
• 35:31
  and winning games that He needed to buy himself a part of the
• 35:36
  problem was that they put too much on him, probably early in
• 35:40
  terms of him having to do that. And now that the rosters kind of
• 35:43
  balanced out in terms of the offensive weapons.
• 35:47
  Yep. He's coming into his own and
• 35:49
  because he's he knows the system and and and there's a lot to be
• 35:53
  said about chemistry and understanding the system to a
• 35:57
  very rich degree, right? When you're in it for three
• 36:01
  years and not just in it. But playing it live against
• 36:05
  other competition. That matters it does.
• 36:10
  What does also from a point, and I think you made this Wednesday
• 36:14
  night, you get that on tape and you can be physically ready to
• 36:19
  go, but as you see it on tape, it's this right?
• 36:23
  Yep. I see what I did here wrong.
• 36:26
  When I see that safety, move down my Slants my slams taken
• 36:31
  away, but if I see him move down my seam, If I can make that
• 36:36
  other safety move to the far, hash I'm going to have my seam
• 36:39
  route open, or I'm going to have my en route in because the
• 36:43
  safety is not there anymore. It's the mental reps.
• 36:46
  It seemed things on tape and it's having someone to develop
• 36:51
  you which Mark Whipple has in Mark Whipple you know and we can
• 36:55
  joke about Whipple offense where he's kind of combining spread
• 36:58
  and pro Concepts. The guy was in the NFL for a few
• 37:03
  years, the guy has a solid Track record as being a pretty good
• 37:06
  quarterback developer. The when you're going six on
• 37:10
  six, it says a lot about who the quarterback coach is.
• 37:16
  That you're not making guys, stick around be better.
• 37:19
  You're shuffling guys, out the door, you're essentially playing
• 37:23
  favorites watching Hendon last night before he got knocked out.
• 37:26
  And I hope that I haven't seen any news today.
• 37:30
  I hope that he can come back but you know, it not only it hurts,
• 37:40
  you from the development standpoint. but it hurts you
• 37:43
  from doubt, we have no death in in in, you know, we were out
• 37:49
  here like O'Connor Knox and it's like, you want someone like a
• 37:54
  Quincy and Quincy should have been They how do you don't
• 37:59
  retain one of them? With all of that is said and
• 38:03
  done is just strange to me because I mean there's no way
• 38:09
  that they looked at what we're dealing with this year.
• 38:12
  Were like yeah that's going to be sufficient to go out and get
• 38:15
  a coastal Championship. Like there's there's no way that
• 38:21
  they saw on tape. And they were like, Yep this
• 38:25
  this is going to get it done and I think that that's another
• 38:29
  problem that we're having with player retention, is that for
• 38:33
  whatever reason we don't value depth, we don't value getting
• 38:36
  guys involved, especially on the offensive side.
• 38:40
  Oh, yeah, I think that's another problem because we've got wide
• 38:44
  receivers that are transferring out because we don't get other
• 38:47
  guys involved in the offense and I love Trey and Tay and I feel
• 38:51
  like they're getting the shit end of the stick as well.
• 38:54
  But other people need to get some of these balls thrown their
• 38:59
  way because we need to be able to spread the ball around.
• 39:07
  And we really have underutilized the tight end position
• 39:10
  habitually throughout the tenure of Fuente.
• 39:14
  And it's strange because that I know the the H back kind of
• 39:19
  makes that offense go in terms of the running game and things
• 39:22
  like that. But At some point you just gotta
• 39:26
  you gotta figure it out and get it.
• 39:28
  Get those guys involved in the passing game more.
• 39:30
  I mean I know James Mitchell is out and that's a big blow but
• 39:34
  you got to have you got to have a plan B next man up get this
• 39:38
  thing going absolutely and you talk about the wide receiver
• 39:42
  room and dude we don't see any of the younger players.
• 39:45
  It's essentially before last night, Dwayne Lofton had one
• 39:49
  catch. It was on for like maybe three
• 39:51
  or four series. You've got to get them on the
• 39:53
  field. Field.
• 39:54
  There's no way you can develop them.
• 39:55
  There's no way you can get game filming.
• 39:57
  Tell them what they're doing. Right?
• 39:58
  What they're doing wrong. And I think what this staff
• 40:01
  thinks is, well if they're not doing it, good in practice where
• 40:04
  they don't doing a game and it's why we got the EFT in 2019 when
• 40:07
  they started Willis, because hook or well, he does some
• 40:10
  things wrong in practice and it's tight and you always say,
• 40:14
  Brian, I don't, practice is great.
• 40:17
  But there are certain times you just have to put people on feel.
• 40:20
  They have to play. They had a few if You know, the
• 40:24
  limitations of, who you think your starter is?
• 40:28
  And, you know, the upside of the guy that's behind them, you got
• 40:31
  to try the other guy that's behind him and get him some more
• 40:34
  reps in the game, so he can take those steps in the development
• 40:40
  process. I mean, we had a full.
• 40:45
  What how many games was it eight games of Ryan Willis in 2018?
• 40:50
  Yeah, we knew what the Ryan Willis was all about.
• 40:53
  By the end of that year. Yes, we did.
• 40:56
  I don't think anyone thought that Ryan Willis was a high
• 41:00
  ceiling quarterback. No more.
• 41:06
  Yeah, if if it's picked day, it was going to be.
• 41:11
  It was going to be a long one. See opening game BC 2019.
• 41:19
  But it's so if you're if you don't get those young players on
• 41:23
  the field, you know, it sounds silly.
• 41:27
  Let's just be hindsight and I know one of our guys, we chat
• 41:31
  with. They Cokie be fish.
• 41:34
  His Remember this comment is long time ago.
• 41:37
  Let's chat with him when he said he's like I think we should have
• 41:41
  just played hook or an 18. We weren't a good team.
• 41:46
  Yeah, all day was online was the bowl street but you could you in
• 41:51
  again, if you actually had a good quarterback developer if
• 41:54
  Booker had played 18, 19, 20, and then come in with basically
• 42:00
  three full seasons Where it's not we're not worried about him
• 42:05
  lining people up, right? He can go out there and do this
• 42:07
  offense in his sleep. It's it's the mental reps and
• 42:12
  unfortunately, it's going to happen next year.
• 42:15
  I think, whoever the court we're going to have even though it's
• 42:17
  going to be a new regime seven quarterbacks in seven years.
• 42:21
  No team is successful. No, professional team.
• 42:25
  Most high school teams aren't like that.
• 42:26
  Usually high school teams. Brian you can attest chef.
• 42:31
  Jep was really scared a couple of you.
• 42:33
  At least get a couple years with most of those guys, exactly.
• 42:36
  We already talked about the running back room.
• 42:38
  It's way too. Crowded offensive line run.
• 42:42
  We did this to ourselves. Yeah, yeah, I mean, we submarine
• 42:46
  the depth, we allowed players to potentially run the room, and
• 42:54
  I'd like to that rant that ran off a couple players.
• 42:59
  So in that and now You're faced with a situation where your back
• 43:05
  filling and you got you're not you're not comfortable.
• 43:09
  Interior offensive line, you're awful at tackle death right now.
• 43:14
  Yeah, awful terrible. Absolutely awful.
• 43:18
  And this is a, this is a 223 cycle fix.
• 43:21
  This is not something that we're fixing with the 22 class or even
• 43:25
  the 23 classes, the three cycle fix?
• 43:28
  Yeah, because we essentially only We have true.
• 43:32
  What? Three tackles?
• 43:35
  Yep. You tackles two new to Silas and
• 43:38
  Clements who played Saturday. In the whole, the the whole
• 43:45
  player running the locker room was, was alleged.
• 43:49
  But when you see two guys, leave like that and you saw them
• 43:53
  getting playing time and whether you like rotations are not, that
• 43:57
  is what it is. Even the NFL rotate.
• 43:59
  Sometimes I've seen that with my 49ers rotating, occasionally on
• 44:05
  the interior. That's, that's, that's just the
• 44:08
  fact of the game. We live in today.
• 44:10
  It's not what it was 30 years ago where if you're the starter
• 44:13
  your, the starter you're never coming out of here on the
• 44:15
  offensive line. But when you take away, like
• 44:20
  Hudson and Nestor where, you know, say what you will if our
• 44:25
  starting line this year was probably Hudson its Center
• 44:31
  rocket, right? Doug it right.
• 44:34
  Tackle. With Silas being a swing in
• 44:37
  Parker, being a swing guy in. I know you always mention
• 44:40
  Johnny, wouldn't be here Kaden. Getting some early reps to
• 44:44
  develop himself. I don't know if we would be what
• 44:47
  we were last year. I think we'd better when we are
• 44:49
  now. And if you can keep them in the
• 44:52
  locker room, and somebody will say, well, that's just the
• 44:55
  position coach. No, no.
• 44:58
  The head coach dictates That's tough, because if the position
• 45:01
  coach, I'm sorry, I'm getting a little excited about this, but
• 45:05
  if your bank, if I see night, it's the position coach is
• 45:09
  letting that sort of shit happen.
• 45:11
  You go, you pull him in the office, like, nah, you need to
• 45:14
  crack down on this. You need to not let the players
• 45:17
  run the room. You stop this crap and you need
• 45:20
  to have a man-to-man conversation with these guys
• 45:23
  about the way while we rotate. And then you need to give them
• 45:26
  examples of why we rotate. But, you know, Start with the
• 45:33
  head guy. It does in we're paying for now.
• 45:37
  The other situation is defensive end situation, that's a weird
• 45:41
  situation. But it goes back to Step One.
• 45:45
  The stacking. You talked about Ryan.
• 45:48
  We saw especially in the Notre Dame game, not having that
• 45:51
  in-depth killed us in the end. Because I follow the game, we
• 45:55
  did not have gas to send guys after the quarterback, and
• 46:00
  finally had you had the statue back in there, but you were to
• 46:03
  gas to go after him. And then last night with the way
• 46:07
  they were running the ball same way, right?
• 46:09
  If you don't have the ends, it consistently rotate in.
• 46:14
  They can't set the edges or at least try to eat a, make the
• 46:18
  hump and the hump on that Raheem Blackshear play.
• 46:21
  Where he went six yards, backwards, terrible running play
• 46:24
  there, but You know, it's one of those things and everybody's
• 46:33
  like, well that's University policy of the stuff that
• 46:35
  happens. It seemed well, you know what?
• 46:38
  If you actually have a head coach, Who's involved in that
• 46:40
  stuff, who's getting in there and having conversations with
• 46:45
  the administration's, you know, maybe something like this
• 46:51
  doesn't happen. But again, doesn't choose to
• 46:54
  chooses to go home. Not talk might be social You
• 47:01
  know, again it's a two prong right there, it's stacking and
• 47:07
  then it's the lack of communication with the
• 47:09
  administration on campus, but it's stacking.
• 47:13
  But it's also when it comes to just overall roster management
• 47:19
  because if you are recruiting at a proper clip at that defensive
• 47:24
  end position and doing a good job of retaining those players,
• 47:28
  then you can afford to lose one or two guys.
• 47:31
  Guys, especially considering, you know, one of the three
• 47:34
  probably wasn't in into a rotational position coming into
• 47:38
  this year to were two were. And but if but if you're
• 47:44
  recruiting that position properly, you can lose two guys
• 47:47
  that are possibly part of your rotation and still keep it
• 47:51
  moving as long as they're not your front line players, right.
• 47:55
  And they weren't they weren't the front line players but we
• 47:57
  had not we had not recruited that position in a way.
• 48:01
  Where we could manage that type of attrition.
• 48:03
  Yeah. So again, recruiting retention
• 48:07
  all in one Fell Swoop there and we see paying and don't get me
• 48:11
  wrong, towel on garbett in a maribor.
• 48:15
  Know they make me feel like the old-school Tech defensive ends.
• 48:22
  When they are gassed up now and they get beat up at the end of
• 48:26
  the game, they're not, but nobody's going to be no.
• 48:30
  All right, Brian, well, let's flip it over.
• 48:31
  We've taken care of, what's going on the locker room?
• 48:34
  We've taken care of the recruiting Trail.
• 48:36
  Let's talk about game days because I swear to God, I swear
• 48:42
  to God. Our team's juice on game days is
• 48:46
  the most by Kohler thing I've ever seen.
• 48:49
  And sometimes it's literally, I put Her to quarter.
• 48:52
  And I'm actually going to go back and say that's wrong drive
• 48:55
  to drive. Yeah, I 100% agree with you.
• 49:01
  It seems like when taking never get this team up when they need
• 49:06
  to be up and often times when you know the the defense rallies
• 49:14
  in gets us up the offense comes out completely flat and lays an
• 49:17
  egg and it's not just it's sometimes the body language.
• 49:22
  It's sometimes they come out and they don't look like they are
• 49:25
  confident about making the play that they need to make.
• 49:28
  And I think that's, that's the thing that is striking to me, is
• 49:31
  that sometimes they just don't seem ready to, to get the job
• 49:36
  done in those situations. And that's a problem in that
• 49:39
  goes back to coaching, but the other thing that goes back to
• 49:41
  coaching is adjustments when we see.
• 49:44
  All right. Our game plan is not working
• 49:46
  yet. Let's move off of this.
• 49:48
  Let's do something different in the It game.
• 49:51
  We were taking shots, we knew we had to take shots that's fine,
• 49:55
  but you're dealing with a swirling wind with your
• 49:59
  quarterback that probably still has some degree of a shoulder
• 50:03
  injury and doesn't have the strongest arm in the world
• 50:05
  already and you've got him swinging, you know, 30 yard goes
• 50:11
  and Fades pretty much the whole first half and I get you've got
• 50:16
  to take those shots, but you also have to mix it up where
• 50:19
  they can think about something. One else, it's true.
• 50:23
  You have to make the corners, think about something else.
• 50:25
  You can't just keep coming at them with the same thing,
• 50:28
  especially when you don't have Isaiah Ford out there or Bucky
• 50:32
  housing or Bucky Hodges. We get the money.
• 50:37
  It's true. It's true.
• 50:40
  And it took him a couple series to start making his adjustments.
• 50:48
  But again, I'll say it. If ham doesn't make a couple of
• 50:51
  his adjustments on the defensive side of the ball.
• 50:54
  It's even uglier in the first gets ugly.
• 50:56
  Yeah, I mean he he compared to the offensive side hands making
• 51:01
  his adjustments. Yeah.
• 51:04
  Now sometimes they take a couple drives to get going but they
• 51:08
  might be a driver to later. And you like but they get there
• 51:12
  eventually get there and then it offensive ly it's just like
• 51:17
  there was there was still no gameplay and change 21-nothing
• 51:20
  down in the second half. There was nothing.
• 51:23
  It literally took until the last drive that we finally scored on
• 51:28
  to where we found it like oh maybe we can do this in this by
• 51:30
  that time of 28. Nothing is like it's too late.
• 51:33
  This needed to happen at 14 nothing but we had our plan and
• 51:36
  it was going to we wasn't working.
• 51:39
  We and we finally got a call from the ref.
• 51:41
  We finally hit a deep ball to trade.
• 51:43
  We're like. All right.
• 51:44
  Well, now this the other plans working you're down.
• 51:47
  Okay. Force.
• 51:48
  You down. Yeah, you you're down.
• 51:50
  You're down 28-nothing at some point.
• 51:53
  You know, there should have been a change sooner and I get that
• 51:58
  there was some drops are receivers had some drops.
• 52:01
  There were some missing Flags, we're not, there were some Miss
• 52:04
  flag, we're not, we're not saying that there weren't other
• 52:07
  other things at play here. There are, there were in players
• 52:11
  have to go out there and execute, but we've talked about
• 52:15
  habitual execution errors, being a flaw of the of the coaching
• 52:19
  staff, and we're seeing that again, this this week.
• 52:24
  And at some point, if you're coaching staff sees that you're
• 52:27
  having execution flaws in a game, it doesn't do something to
• 52:31
  try to mitigate some of that that's on them, to its own them.
• 52:35
  And it's on the head man who essentially get the people to
• 52:38
  start making the changes Ages. We've always discussed
• 52:41
  situational play calls and that's again in game type stuff.
• 52:45
  Gained a type stuff. We're what we've harped on it
• 52:49
  before. But when you keep seeing things
• 52:52
  and nothing is changing, eventually, it's not.
• 52:55
  Well the players you said it before Brian, we've said it a
• 52:57
  lot in the last month, the players necessarily are
• 53:01
  executing this play. If they're not executing it
• 53:05
  right, what are you doing behind the scenes?
• 53:07
  Especially when it keeps happening over and over again.
• 53:10
  And I think this week situational didn't matter,
• 53:14
  situational did not matter. I don't know.
• 53:16
  I just much because I mean all the situational play calls are
• 53:20
  like, alright, well third down, we're going to truck it.
• 53:23
  Go to the second down, we're going to check it.
• 53:25
  Although when you sit here and I think I've got a note here, one
• 53:29
  of them, didn't we go deep on, like a third and five where we
• 53:32
  had a little momentum. Yeah.
• 53:35
  Like you know I think it was I want to say was I can't remember
• 53:41
  who was the drive, just before they went to 14 or just after
• 53:44
  they went to 14 where we got a kind of a good first couple
• 53:48
  downs and we're in a manageable situation and we're still trying
• 53:52
  to Chuck the ball down feel like at some point.
• 53:56
  Take what the defense has given you and and matriculate the ball
• 54:00
  a little bit. Like I said, I know they're
• 54:02
  inviting the Deep ball there but if you're not hitting it figure
• 54:07
  out something else, second quarter bronze.
• 54:10
  When that was It was a it was, you know, it was we took a shot
• 54:19
  on like third and five or third and four and it was just one of
• 54:23
  those like what why? Like if this was a 1414 game
• 54:28
  sure for take the shot try to maybe you get to catch the
• 54:32
  safety. Going in the corner, peeking his
• 54:34
  head and looking for the run, in this case, you're down.
• 54:38
  Also, your quarterback is trying to find some Rhythm and you're
• 54:41
  giving him low percentage throws back.
• 54:43
  Back-to-back-to-back, get that confidence up, Braun.
• 54:46
  Let's take a deep shot here. One last piece of game day is
• 54:51
  in. This is ultimately only the head
• 54:53
  coaches. The other ones are how he's
• 54:57
  dictating things to his assistant coaches, but those
• 55:01
  decisions when going for it on fourth down, extra point, versus
• 55:06
  two points, fakes things like that.
• 55:10
  That is strictly on the head coach, he makes those Calls
• 55:14
  whether to punt or to go for a long field goal that's all on
• 55:18
  him. Now I'll say this, I think for
• 55:22
  when they as far as going for it on fourth down, I think he's
• 55:26
  better than Frank was because Frank Beamer at the 43-yard line
• 55:31
  on Third and or on fourth and one it was going to be fine.
• 55:38
  Yeah, he will. I mean, he's definitely
• 55:41
  conservative or traditional in terms.
• 55:43
  Of a 2021 coach, but he is less conservative than Frank was,
• 55:48
  every was going for two. Nope, I don't care.
• 55:51
  If it's going to get us up three.
• 55:52
  We're going up to the problem I have with went a is that the
• 55:57
  decisions don't make sense in the context of the game, not
• 56:01
  necessarily, whether or not they are conservative or liberal
• 56:06
  enough in the situation. Yeah.
• 56:08
  And then it goes back into. Well if it's 4th down, you're
• 56:12
  going for for it. and especially if you're the back room, that
• 56:17
  you're an offensive coordinator, Then you have to call the play.
• 56:22
  You have to call, you know, fourth and three.
• 56:25
  We're down 14, but we're at the 36, I'm not going to take a
• 56:28
  field goal. I'm not going to punt it for
• 56:30
  potentially a net of 10 or 15 yards.
• 56:34
  I'm gonna go for it. Then, what do you call that?
• 56:37
  What was your play here? Because you have to make the
• 56:41
  decision, you should be on page with Yosi to say, you know,
• 56:46
  we're running this play because I think we can get three out of
• 56:50
  this. for whatever reason, and you know, This is that's
• 56:58
  actually probably the decisions. Things are probably something,
• 57:00
  he's done. Okay, home in some but the times
• 57:05
  where it fails it's just like the worst possible times and you
• 57:09
  just kind of shake your head. Alright, Braun me.
• 57:13
  And you were both history majors, man.
• 57:15
  And this is the one that I kind of dug in on today and just
• 57:20
  started thinking a lot about. And, you know, you think about
• 57:24
  great generals throughout history that led Lead their
• 57:27
  respective armories, whether it be u.s.
• 57:29
  Grant, you know, in the Civil War robbery lie in the Civil
• 57:32
  War, Eisenhower. They're Lieutenant generals or
• 57:36
  their underlings, you had to have great ones you know you
• 57:42
  think about the Civil War? You think about u.s.
• 57:44
  Grant and how even though he was leading the campaign Sherman's
• 57:49
  March through the South, you think about Lee.
• 57:53
  And you think about having Jackson, I wrote my senior
• 57:55
  thesis on the 1862 campaign in the Shenandoah Valley, Which
• 58:01
  essentially Jackson was able to keep that Valley from
• 58:04
  essentially getting torched. Prolonging the war.
• 58:09
  Yep, if you do not have good Lieutenant, generals Most time
• 58:16
  people fail. In war as an inn in sports, if
• 58:21
  you do not have good lieutenants.
• 58:23
  And I make this point, as I ramble about our history
• 58:27
  background about the last two seasons for Justin Fuente, has
• 58:34
  been his worst two seasons, whether it be as an offensive
• 58:38
  coordinator. Or as a head coach because I
• 58:43
  look at Memphis when he got there.
• 58:45
  It was an absolute dumpster fire.
• 58:47
  Yeah. Nick Saban could have walked in
• 58:49
  there and won the same amount of games.
• 58:52
  But these last two seasons is the first time.
• 58:56
  He's not really had a lieutenant general with him and I go back
• 58:59
  Brian, and although he was the lieutenant to Gary Patterson,
• 59:05
  You always made the point. He had a Colo see, while he was
• 59:09
  with TCU the open guy been there.
• 59:12
  Long time, we go down to Memphis.
• 59:14
  He had Darryl Dickie Darryl Dickie has coach forever their
• 59:18
  dick. He's like 63 years old.
• 59:19
  They're all Dickey is literally started coaching 1980s.
• 59:23
  You come here you'd have buds experience of close to 25 plus
• 59:28
  years on you know Frank staff. In town, at Murray State in any
• 59:35
  had Jerry killing 19 every year. He's had someone to essentially
• 59:39
  bounces ideas off. And now, he doesn't.
• 59:43
  How much do you think? Is that important to you?
• 59:45
  Go back to, who was Marty's guy like that, that maybe that
• 59:50
  wasn't, maybe, maybe Marty's age, but just just in football,
• 59:53
  as long as better experiences, yeah, we had, we had a couple
• 59:59
  guys are One of our the co offensive line coach is really
• 1:00:06
  both offensive line coach has, kind of had had that same type
• 1:00:10
  of same type of clout where, you know, he would bounce ideas off
• 1:00:14
  of them and really use that lean on their experience in games to
• 1:00:24
  kind of make some of those calls in clutch moments there.
• 1:00:29
  Not having a guy that that you can lean on and obviously 20
• 1:00:34
  showing that he needs that type of presence, given his record
• 1:00:40
  here. I mean it's showing right?
• 1:00:45
  It is, and it is. I mean, it's showing in so many
• 1:00:49
  different ways because with those guys, you know, you start
• 1:00:53
  looking back where they've coached and stuff, they've
• 1:00:55
  experienced big games, they've experienced big moments, even
• 1:00:58
  speared, crucial moments and you know leading up having those
• 1:01:02
  guys in your ear. We have no associate or
• 1:01:05
  assistant head coach, right? Bud, was it?
• 1:01:09
  And we did not get one named last year and we did not have
• 1:01:12
  one name this year. But is there anybody on staff?
• 1:01:16
  Brian that we can because right now, you know, the staff is sort
• 1:01:21
  of compromised with. It's it's his buddies Bill and
• 1:01:27
  Brad, and Jafar and shy best. And somebody says, well, shy
• 1:01:31
  best, you know, has been coaching a long time since the
• 1:01:35
  early 1990s. Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  But he's been on the staff of 10 years for Wednesday.
• 1:01:39
  That's usually you get to that status.
• 1:01:41
  You get buddy, status on, you got younger coaches.
• 1:01:46
  And when I say young coaches, you've got like ham and Adam.
• 1:01:52
  You know, and then you got newbies like JC and Jack.
• 1:01:59
  And you're not going to put, you know, although JC price has been
• 1:02:02
  coaching close to 15 years. Very rarely, will you put
• 1:02:06
  someone that's coming in off the street in an associate head?
• 1:02:10
  Coach role? Because of the importance of
• 1:02:11
  that role. Yeah.
• 1:02:13
  So he has an l and then they gave him a pretty high title
• 1:02:15
  given that he was coming, you know?
• 1:02:17
  Yeah. From out of house, right?
• 1:02:19
  So, and he's done well in that role, but I'm with you there
• 1:02:24
  doesn't there isn't that type of Mentor type Auction that it
• 1:02:30
  seems that Fuente would need to have have the success that he
• 1:02:33
  liked to have. And I think the bigger thing,
• 1:02:37
  and we're going to talk about a little bit is that there's just
• 1:02:43
  a unwillingness to really examine harshly when he looking
• 1:02:52
  at looking at the tape and saying, all right, we can do
• 1:02:54
  this better, we can do that better, that's fine, but that's
• 1:02:56
  that shit. You dear all the time if you
• 1:02:59
  need to fully evaluate The staff members and get rid of the ones
• 1:03:05
  that are not living up to their billing.
• 1:03:08
  Well and, and, and let's, let's let's talk about first so.
• 1:03:13
  So right now, in terms of hiring firing retaining staff, all that
• 1:03:19
  right now, we have one unknown factor, right?
• 1:03:21
  So that's Jack, Tyler. I mean, he still relatively
• 1:03:24
  doing the position early returns.
• 1:03:27
  Are looking good. Wow.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah. It's not jumping off the tape or
• 1:03:33
  anything like that, but the the unit is played better than they
• 1:03:37
  did last year and he's done a pretty good job on the
• 1:03:40
  recruiting Trail. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:03:43
  He's done a good job. And again, he's unknown, even
• 1:03:46
  though he's been here in some type of role for the last 34
• 1:03:49
  years until you get in that spot, you don't know about it.
• 1:03:53
  And there's not enough animal. They all the good.
• 1:03:57
  I put four guys in this and we're going to talk about guys
• 1:04:01
  who have also Been on the staff before.
• 1:04:03
  So when y'all hear some other names don't be surprised what
• 1:04:08
  the good have been ham. I think what hands done this
• 1:04:11
  year is great, especially after last year what he had to go
• 1:04:15
  through Ryan Smith, almost wanted to make a separate
• 1:04:21
  category for Ryan Smith, but I didn't Ryan Smith is currently
• 1:04:27
  the MVP of he is a of The Hires because he is not Knocked out
• 1:04:32
  the park in every phase that he's been asked to contribute.
• 1:04:35
  It he does. Great job coaching the defensive
• 1:04:37
  backs, he's doing a great job recruiting and then the other
• 1:04:40
  two goods are JC and Bill Jason on the recruiting Trail
• 1:04:46
  obviously and then the defensive line overall the defensive line
• 1:04:50
  has held this team in games, you know?
• 1:04:58
  In the development Barna interval say with barn has not
• 1:05:01
  looking at the, he's sometimes the statutes not there.
• 1:05:05
  Yeah. But he still garnering the
• 1:05:07
  attention, the old become the issue with bar know is is when
• 1:05:11
  he no longer garnish the attention, but he still
• 1:05:14
  garnering it and a couple weeks was it, the the second play
• 1:05:17
  against Notre Dame and that inside the inside spin move?
• 1:05:20
  Not the outside spending. We're used to from people that
• 1:05:23
  inside, spend move, put that tackle in a blender.
• 1:05:26
  He didn't know what he's doing. They're getting the most out of
• 1:05:30
  their guys. They're getting the most.
• 1:05:33
  Are they perfect? No, that's why.
• 1:05:36
  I kind of joked and said, I'd like to put Smith in his own,
• 1:05:39
  but what the returns were getting from defensive line so
• 1:05:41
  far great. Yep.
• 1:05:45
  So go ahead. I will say, then we got we have
• 1:05:50
  another category here that's like guys that are doing okay.
• 1:05:55
  You know, Vance Vice, it's been very up and down.
• 1:05:59
  It's been up and down, right? We've had a couple good years, a
• 1:06:05
  great year and then a couple bad years.
• 1:06:08
  Yeah. And we're in the midst of a bad
• 1:06:11
  year and some of that is self-inflicted the okay because
• 1:06:18
  because when you have good and bad stack you can't just throw
• 1:06:21
  somebody doing bad. Yeah and he's done a pretty good
• 1:06:24
  job. On the recruiting Trail.
• 1:06:26
  You got coach shy best in this. In this category.
• 1:06:31
  I think he does a good job overall with the special teams
• 1:06:34
  that that's been probably a standout unit for this team,
• 1:06:37
  this year to go along with, with the defense, Adam Lichtenberg.
• 1:06:44
  I think he did a good job of managing things last year.
• 1:06:48
  I think so far this year, mixed return there and I think it's
• 1:06:55
  hard. It's hard to really give him a
• 1:06:58
  great grade. But at the same time, I don't
• 1:07:01
  want to knock him because I see what the offensive line isn't
• 1:07:04
  getting done. And there's only so much that
• 1:07:07
  running backs can negate that and there's only so much that a
• 1:07:11
  coach can scheme for that for the running backs in the gate
• 1:07:14
  that exactly the last two are guys who are no longer.
• 1:07:18
  Longer with the program, but they did.
• 1:07:19
  Okay, while they were here in Charlie Wiles, did probably
• 1:07:22
  better than, okay, you know, he was defensive line coach when
• 1:07:27
  there were steps back towards the end.
• 1:07:29
  But if you look at the full body of work, sure and say well,
• 1:07:33
  Brian Mitchell the time. Brian Mitchell was here.
• 1:07:37
  He was okay. And they both are continuing to
• 1:07:40
  doing a solid job down at NC State.
• 1:07:42
  So it's not like those guys left here and couldn't find a D2 job
• 1:07:47
  somewhere. They went Another prominent top
• 1:07:50
  35 40 program who are bumping right now?
• 1:07:54
  We'll talk about that. Take a little later Brian today.
• 1:07:57
  So there are the okay they aren't knocking it out of the
• 1:08:01
  park, but they aren't falling flat on their face and that goes
• 1:08:06
  to the bad, the falling flat on your face, looking terrible.
• 1:08:11
  And obviously, no, this is from Puentes perspective by the way
• 1:08:15
  and take respected. There's a few guys on here.
• 1:08:18
  We're putting on here for different reason, and we'll
• 1:08:20
  explain why. But the first ones corn after
• 1:08:23
  2016 and that year he has not had anything like it.
• 1:08:29
  Close to it in 2017 but it was regression. 2018 regression
• 1:08:35
  little uptick in 2019. Little uptick in 2020 and then
• 1:08:43
  massive regression this year. Massive aggression in this is
• 1:08:48
  absolutely dependent upon having talented skill position players
• 1:08:53
  on the field. When he has talented players at
• 1:08:58
  the quarterback position to that the skilled positions.
• 1:09:02
  The offense can look, okay. He is not making players better.
• 1:09:07
  No, he's not. Whether it's the quite the
• 1:09:10
  quarterback position by developing them or whether it's
• 1:09:13
  at the play calling position of getting guys into areas where
• 1:09:17
  they can make a play. Yeah, absolutely not good at it.
• 1:09:21
  And somebody say, well, what about Herbert last year,
• 1:09:24
  offensive line last year was dominant and you know what you
• 1:09:28
  saw it. Kaleo Herbert did today in the
• 1:09:30
  NFL that Kip I wanted tip over 100 trunk yards from scrimmage
• 1:09:35
  scored a touchdown. David Montgomery might have a
• 1:09:39
  running back mate there for the rest of the season as good as he
• 1:09:42
  looked, but that whole piece of there's no development.
• 1:09:47
  You can't hold your room together.
• 1:09:49
  You, you know, you continuously overturn, a guy.
• 1:09:54
  And then we see a guy in like, hooker, literally go to Josh
• 1:09:58
  hyphal and is already looking exponentially better, and he was
• 1:10:03
  there spring and fall, and he was under you for what?
• 1:10:08
  Five. Yep.
• 1:10:10
  Because he came in early one year.
• 1:10:12
  He was early in 18 or 17. Anyway, a lot more time to
• 1:10:18
  develop in obviously corn, couldn't get anything out of him
• 1:10:22
  and he's the bad. If there's someone that if in
• 1:10:25
  2020, or 2019, Franklin Nelson had been fired.
• 1:10:32
  I think if we had a new OC and we had some struggles.
• 1:10:35
  You know what, I think part of the fan base would be like, hey,
• 1:10:37
  We have to give this guy another year.
• 1:10:41
  At least he made the decision to get rid of the bad peace and to
• 1:10:46
  try something different. Yes, it's the lack of
• 1:10:51
  accountability to guys, that aren't cutting the mustard,
• 1:10:54
  especially the offensive guys, I mean, let's move over.
• 1:10:58
  We can talk about Jafar, I think I think that's been It just it
• 1:11:05
  hasn't been a good overall higher, especially considering
• 1:11:08
  who he is, who he was replacing all.
• 1:11:11
  Oh yeah, he was also in this category for different reasons,
• 1:11:17
  you know, I think Jafar has not made his unit better in the pin
• 1:11:22
  the passing game. I think he does a pretty good
• 1:11:24
  job of getting them to work within the framework of the
• 1:11:29
  offense, in terms of blocking and things like that.
• 1:11:31
  But I don't see you. Year-on-year Improvement at the
• 1:11:35
  receiver position that you would think you would see ya from
• 1:11:39
  guys, like Trey and Tay for the time that they've been in the
• 1:11:43
  system. And that goes back to coaching,
• 1:11:47
  and it goes back back to is Jafar getting the job done for
• 1:11:51
  them. And if he's not, why are you
• 1:11:54
  hanging on to him friends? That's a friend.
• 1:11:57
  It's a friend from 15 years ago. So it's someone he has a
• 1:12:01
  relationship with but you which hires can Been like that and we
• 1:12:04
  get it but you know what? The guy he replacing, let's jump
• 1:12:09
  up a little bit. Brian, Wiggins was the guy even
• 1:12:14
  after so he comes in for Hodges Phillips, all Just Produce
• 1:12:19
  right. All those guys just absolutely
• 1:12:23
  produce and then you get 2017 and you had like Sean Savoy, you
• 1:12:29
  had can continuing to reduce and you know, it looked like okay
• 1:12:33
  this this is kind of this is the guy right here.
• 1:12:36
  We've got the guy that's going to you know be really good.
• 1:12:42
  And in 2018 comes and is bad as 2018 was, you know, you sit back
• 1:12:49
  and pray Turner's. A freshman.
• 1:12:52
  Trey Turner. you know, breakout season 500 plus yards, 20
• 1:12:58
  receptions, you know, Hazleton has a breakout season, and it's
• 1:13:02
  like, wow, you know, this is really good and Alabama comes
• 1:13:07
  calling and to be very honest, as good as Holloman was
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  especially in 2018 with a transfer from Bowling Green and
• 1:13:23
  a true freshman and Trey Turner. In Ryan Willis at quarterback
• 1:13:28
  with the way, the rest of the team played, that means should
• 1:13:31
  have been made offensive coordinator right there.
• 1:13:34
  He would have got the same freaking pay, he got it Alabama
• 1:13:39
  and you would have put him in a better position, you know, to
• 1:13:40
  kill two birds with one stone, getting rid of rat.
• 1:13:43
  So you hook corn, you put Holmen Wiggins in there and you keep
• 1:13:47
  moving. And I'm with that and let while
• 1:13:51
  we're here, let's go ahead and pivot to the other side of the
• 1:13:53
  ball. And we're going to talk about
• 1:13:55
  both both. Safety coaches that for
• 1:13:58
  different reasons. Were were short.
• 1:14:02
  Were shown the door? Yeah, let's start with Tori and
• 1:14:06
  gray. Dildo.
• 1:14:10
  The did the disrespect and that situation still has not set well
• 1:14:14
  with a lot of folks in former players and things like that.
• 1:14:19
  So fans I mean, It's tough. It's tough.
• 1:14:27
  Seeing him doing other things that other schools.
• 1:14:30
  Well, going to the pros. Having some success with the
• 1:14:35
  Washington football team while he was there.
• 1:14:37
  I mean, Just letting a guy like that walk.
• 1:14:43
  Come on. You said it when we first
• 1:14:46
  started, this thing a couple of years ago, Braun.
• 1:14:48
  I'm you said I understand. You want to get your guy paid
• 1:14:52
  but you cannot do it at the cost of a guy who has this
• 1:14:55
  reputation. He had been at tech for right at
• 1:14:57
  10 years, he had put countless people in the league, he was
• 1:15:01
  respected, as, probably one of the best defensive back coach
• 1:15:04
  has and he ran, he ran the whole shop.
• 1:15:07
  No here and eby's here and safeties.
• 1:15:11
  And, you know, it's his dbe's and safeties played with the
• 1:15:16
  chip. They play with a chip.
• 1:15:18
  They played mean in the whole piece.
• 1:15:21
  Wasn't you know? It's your staff but be smart.
• 1:15:24
  If you're keeping this, his salary shouldn't a change.
• 1:15:27
  He should have never been asked to take a pay cut, that's all
• 1:15:30
  that had to happen. That's all that had to happen.
• 1:15:32
  If he don't ask him to take a pay cut and it's in this
• 1:15:37
  completely cool. If you would have had him just
• 1:15:40
  Watch the corners and let Galen coach the safeties.
• 1:15:45
  I think they probably could have worked it out.
• 1:15:46
  I think knowing, you know, those guys I think that could have
• 1:15:50
  worked out but again it's that whole piece of you.
• 1:15:55
  Let go of this guy. And then we had a struggle and
• 1:15:59
  go find Brian Mitchell you know late in the process it shows you
• 1:16:05
  kind of it was early on and I'm sure I might have quoted tweeted
• 1:16:12
  something favorable towards the new head coach hindsight's
• 1:16:16
  20/20. It's stupid.
• 1:16:18
  I don't remember that far back. I'm sorry if you want to dig
• 1:16:22
  through my tweets and call me out whatever I that doesn't
• 1:16:24
  matter to me I we've all said stupid things and calling
• 1:16:28
  Somebody else, just funny. But, yeah, I mean, you know, a
• 1:16:33
  bunch of Lies were told in 2016 and 2017, they exactly.
• 1:16:39
  Don't look good. Now, let's go to the last guy
• 1:16:42
  though, because his is the most controversial situation Galen,
• 1:16:46
  Scott of everybody that went, they brought with him Galen,
• 1:16:51
  Scott is on par with Holloman, they looked real deal day.
• 1:16:58
  One. Yep, the one, we recruited the
• 1:17:01
  way their coaches played. Well there.
• 1:17:03
  That's the way they play is play.
• 1:17:05
  Play play? Yeah, and Gala was doing a
• 1:17:08
  really good job with the recruiting Trail, wasn't it?
• 1:17:11
  He was what. But you know it's one of those
• 1:17:17
  things O'Brien, you know. It was coming.
• 1:17:21
  It was trashy. Reality though.
• 1:17:29
  And he was let go for it. It was one of those things could
• 1:17:33
  he have been retained. Yeah, and I think some people
• 1:17:39
  would have had an uproar. Other people have been like,
• 1:17:42
  yeah, I know when it happened is when it happened.
• 1:17:44
  But, you know, I'm sure that was during his personal time on the
• 1:17:48
  road trip, I don't condone it. It's coming.
• 1:17:52
  It's a crappy thing to do. But it's one of those things you
• 1:17:57
  let him go. and, you know, you essentially set numerous things
• 1:18:07
  back because reality I think I also you heard Bud talk about
• 1:18:14
  him to how about how he felt good about Galen.
• 1:18:18
  Yep it probably would have been a much smoother transition to a
• 1:18:23
  new defensive coordinator and I mean everybody's like a lodge.
• 1:18:28
  I'll put that on bad, what he did was terrible, he should have
• 1:18:29
  been fired. I have a feeling that if you go
• 1:18:33
  look at most coaching staffs around the country, what do you
• 1:18:37
  think? Brian, you think everybody's
• 1:18:38
  choirboys? I'd say that the scenario that
• 1:18:43
  played out here has probably happened on at least a third of
• 1:18:48
  college campuses in America. It just it is what it is.
• 1:18:53
  And you know, when you have it, get put out there the way it
• 1:18:59
  was. It definitely makes it a little
• 1:19:01
  more salacious. So it is what it is.
• 1:19:08
  But definitely one of those things that It, you know, is
• 1:19:13
  another red mark against Flint a.
• 1:19:15
  So I mean, now we come to it, man.
• 1:19:18
  I mean, we're building the case here and I mean, we built the
• 1:19:21
  case last year we built it again.
• 1:19:22
  This year, we need to move on. It's time, it's not.
• 1:19:28
  And I what I know a lot of people are like right now, right
• 1:19:31
  now, right now I'm fine with December and you want to know
• 1:19:34
  why? Brian and Trust will million
• 1:19:37
  dollars. He's going to do a hell of a lot
• 1:19:39
  for the new head coach. Building a recruiting staff,
• 1:19:42
  hopefully paying offensive and defensive coordinators at more
• 1:19:46
  top, 25 levels. But I'm done into my like, what
• 1:19:51
  if he win some games, if you can literally with a straight face,
• 1:19:57
  A straight face. Tell us, we're going to win six
• 1:20:01
  in a row. We're going to make the ACC
• 1:20:03
  Championship. We're going to go nine and three
• 1:20:05
  please. DM us.
• 1:20:06
  We will have you on Wednesday night to State your case.
• 1:20:09
  Yep. Because I I see a struggling
• 1:20:14
  with Syracuse. I see us being a grind against
• 1:20:17
  Georgia Tech again. The only game I see on the
• 1:20:20
  schedule that I feel comfortable putting the W next to without
• 1:20:23
  the game being played as duke. That's it, that's it.
• 1:20:29
  And we know you're weak, 60 years into a regime.
• 1:20:33
  The head man has to go. I will say this I think there
• 1:20:37
  are two to three guys on this staff that the next head coach
• 1:20:40
  should fight tooth and nail to keep.
• 1:20:43
  Yeah, and you know, the question is going to be obviously I think
• 1:20:47
  two of them will be easier or people's Smith and JC price
• 1:20:53
  should be ones. That are pretty easy.
• 1:20:56
  E to retain. If you see a spot for them in
• 1:21:00
  the new with the new regime regime, obviously the situation
• 1:21:04
  with Coach am is a little different just because he is the
• 1:21:10
  defensive coordinator. And when you do a break that
• 1:21:16
  we're talking about here, it's going to be hard to retain a
• 1:21:20
  young defensive coordinator because more than likely that
• 1:21:25
  it's not going to be Who the new guy wants to put in that place
• 1:21:30
  he might be willing to give him a position role and at that
• 1:21:33
  point you get into are able someone going to take a pay cut
• 1:21:37
  and a demotion in order to stay with their alma mater.
• 1:21:41
  And that that's a hard task for anybody.
• 1:21:44
  Especially with the the product that the defense is putting out
• 1:21:48
  this year, I think coach Hamilton's going to have some
• 1:21:52
  other opportunities and defensive coordinator, you know,
• 1:21:58
  once we move on from the Fuente regime so ugly.
• 1:22:01
  So that's going to be the toughest piece because I think
• 1:22:03
  JC and Ron are going to stay. I don't, I don't think that's
• 1:22:05
  going to even be a question, but the, the handpiece is the tough
• 1:22:11
  piece because From where we were last year to where we have.
• 1:22:15
  Come this year. It is light years and normally
• 1:22:20
  you do not see that. Normally guys who start rough,
• 1:22:25
  you normally don't see a guy go from the 100's into the
• 1:22:31
  somewhere between about 35 and 25.
• 1:22:36
  Usually you see where he's 100 this year.
• 1:22:39
  Now, we're in the 80s and now we're in the 50s.
• 1:22:43
  Three years later, it shows you in the adjustment.
• 1:22:46
  He makes really good on the Fly and I think that's a sign of a
• 1:22:51
  true, great defensive coordinator.
• 1:22:53
  So again, y'all, we've given you the arc in this is what I told
• 1:22:58
  Brian, and if I get lambasted for, I'll get lambasting for You
• 1:23:03
  can do four out of these, you can you can screw up on game day
• 1:23:09
  a lot. You can make bad situational
• 1:23:12
  calls. You can choose to go for one
• 1:23:16
  when you should have went for two.
• 1:23:18
  You can be slow with your adjustments.
• 1:23:21
  That's okay. One day on that Saturday night.
• 1:23:27
  But the other four, what really makes up how great you can be.
• 1:23:31
  Yep, it's true. And and what.
• 1:23:35
  And what do we talk? We brought up Frank Brown. and
• 1:23:42
  Frank, Sometimes some game days we weren't on Some of the
• 1:23:50
  decisions he made. We did not agree with ya. but
• 1:23:55
  overall, for Frank Beamer From 1993 roughly to the early part
• 1:24:02
  of the 2010s, everything else clicked.
• 1:24:09
  Everything else clue that we let guys go and he needed to let
• 1:24:12
  guys go. you know, even though we want him to firestein Spring
• 1:24:17
  a lot sooner than he did and then he brought in Laughlin, it
• 1:24:20
  may just want Stein spring back but He was slow to let go of
• 1:24:26
  friends but he did the other things.
• 1:24:28
  Well wear And he was producing for the majority of that time,
• 1:24:33
  even when he was loyal to his friends.
• 1:24:37
  So, you know, some of that gets a little bit of a pass because
• 1:24:40
  you're putting a good product out on the field, you're not
• 1:24:44
  seeing the ramifications of it. We didn't start seeing the
• 1:24:46
  ramifications of holding onto Stein spring until we started to
• 1:24:51
  see a dip in other areas like in recruiting.
• 1:24:54
  Yep. Very true man.
• 1:24:56
  Very true. All right, Brian before we close
• 1:25:00
  it out here tonight. Saturday Pickens you are going
• 1:25:05
  to live again. I'm back in at least, 50 50 and
• 1:25:12
  I went to seven and three again. Yeah, come on man, you putting
• 1:25:16
  some distance between me now. Hey, you know, and where it's
• 1:25:21
  getting words, getting you is in the games we picked against each
• 1:25:26
  other one and three versus three in one.
• 1:25:31
  You know, we got the Friday night game, right?
• 1:25:35
  Clemson should not be double digit favorite against.
• 1:25:37
  Anybody we got the gqv a game right?
• 1:25:41
  Even though I don't think I foresaw a 40 Burger to nothing.
• 1:25:46
  Yeah I thought I thought Gunner might keep it a little closer
• 1:25:49
  than that. Wow!
• 1:25:51
  What a slide. You see it?
• 1:25:58
  Yeah. Wow, Miami UNC.
• 1:26:02
  We both were wrong on Miami showed Signs of Life.
• 1:26:06
  Authentically defensively looked worse.
• 1:26:09
  You nailed the BC, NC State game, Nailed it.
• 1:26:16
  That's the only one male the, I bet you still nailed it.
• 1:26:19
  If you, you know, put some money just on that game.
• 1:26:22
  You have won the okey. So Texas game Texas, still not
• 1:26:25
  back. Okey, State looking like,
• 1:26:27
  potentially Bedlam, could be crazy at the end of next month,
• 1:26:31
  because I think okey Scopes got Iowa State left.
• 1:26:34
  But Iowa State wasn't what they were last year.
• 1:26:37
  BYU Baylor, Baylor wins that one.
• 1:26:39
  BYU shows that they were a fraud.
• 1:26:42
  Who wants Gus Malzahn to be a head coach here?
• 1:26:46
  Anybody Bueller Bueller? No.
• 1:26:51
  Absolutely doors. Blown off by Cincinnati
• 1:26:54
  Cincinnati. Inching closer and closer
• 1:26:59
  towards he say. You never touched him towards
• 1:27:05
  the the playoff, the Pick'em game, Utah, beat Arizona State
• 1:27:16
  And Tennessee Ole Miss. I'm sure you were hoping for
• 1:27:20
  that last drive for something to happen.
• 1:27:22
  By the way. Did you see the lane kiffin?
• 1:27:25
  Catch the water bottle? Yeah, I was impressive and it's
• 1:27:33
  impressive because I think there were like reporters or somebody
• 1:27:36
  behind that if he hadn't caught it, it would have just wiped
• 1:27:39
  them clean. And then Kentucky Georgia Braun.
• 1:27:44
  We got that one right to almost on a number.
• 1:27:47
  We both said something like, what 30.
• 1:27:50
  I think I said, 3114. I think you were like, 2810
• 1:27:56
  nail, that one? So, you know, overall record
• 1:28:00
  bronze at 35 and 37, I moved to 40 and 32 anything breaking in
• 1:28:06
  the last. Oh God, hour.
• 1:28:08
  And 30 minutes, my Braves are Trying to not it up at the 8th
• 1:28:12
  year. We'll see you.
• 1:28:13
  How this goes exactly with nothing else is broken tonight.
• 1:28:18
  Y'all go. Look here.
• 1:28:22
  We hope that this helped you get some of your frustrations out
• 1:28:26
  of. Definitely help Vin tires out
• 1:28:29
  talking about this stuff tonight and I'll wrap up this episode of
• 1:28:33
  The Boundary Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian
• 1:28:38
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• 1:28:40
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• 1:28:46
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• 1:28:48
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• 1:28:51
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• 1:28:57
  every year is the pivotal game where I say no more, no mas.
• 1:29:02
  No mas exact Dawn at dawn. No, but I think I'll just tied
• 1:29:08
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• 1:29:11
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