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WHERE'S HEATHER? UNWITTING SEX AFFAIR W MARRIED MAN, CAFE HOST PHONE DEAD 3 A.M. · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Where is Heather?
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  Speaker 2: An unwitting sex affair with a married man unbeknownst to her.
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  Speaker 2: Now the restaurant hostess's phone has been turned off. Last
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  Speaker 2: active three a m. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: Heather Elvis is a young, hardworking twenty year old girl
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  Speaker 3: from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. She has moved out of
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  Speaker 3: her parents' home and into her own apartment with her
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  Speaker 3: best friend and roommate, Brianna. The two girls work as
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  Speaker 3: waitresses at a local restaurant, and while there, Heather meets
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  Speaker 3: Sidney Moore, an older welder by trade, and the two
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  Speaker 3: soon grow feelings for each other. Kicks starting in a
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  Speaker 3: troubled affair.
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  Speaker 2: Troubled is certainly one way of putting it tonight. Where
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  Speaker 2: is Heather? Why is her phone cut off? And then
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  Speaker 2: last active at.
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  Speaker 1: Three a m. In the morning.
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  Speaker 4: Listen now a personal cell phone are missing along with
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  Speaker 4: her everything else looks to be where it's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 5: On December nineteenth, a green Dodge Intreppet is found parked
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  Speaker 5: the wrong way at the Peachtree Landing Boat Launch and
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  Speaker 5: so Cassidy. The vehicle is locked and running the license
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  Speaker 5: plate of the car. The registration comes back to Terry Elvis,
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  Speaker 5: Heather's father. Police contact Elvis and he comes to the
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  Speaker 5: boat landing with spare keys to unlock the car with
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  Speaker 5: the cars eight miles from Heather Elvis's apartment, and once
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  Speaker 5: her father unlocks the car, police find Heather's keys, phone,
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  Speaker 5: and purse, all missing. Calls to her phone go unanswered.
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  Speaker 5: Heather is not at her apartment and doesn't show up
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  Speaker 5: at her job.
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  Speaker 2: In that sound from our friends at HLN, you here
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  Speaker 2: Heather's dad, Terry Elvis, stating that her purse, her cell
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  Speaker 2: phone missing with her everything else appears to be in order.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me an all star pan ultimate sense of what
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  Speaker 2: we're learning tonight. First, I want to go out to
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  Speaker 2: some very very special guests. This is Heather's mother and sister,
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  Speaker 2: Debbie and Morgan Elvis. Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Straight out to Debbie Elvis, this is Heather's mom. I
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  Speaker 2: cannot imagine what you're going through. You put all your time,
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  Speaker 2: your energy, your love, your money, two hundred percent blood,
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  Speaker 2: sweat and tears.
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  Speaker 1: You pour it into your children and then to have
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  Speaker 1: your beautiful daughter just disappear like that.
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  Speaker 2: Never a hint of trouble ever from Heather Elvis. She
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  Speaker 2: wasn't some juvenile delinquent that made all fs and would
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  Speaker 2: stand out on the corner.
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  Speaker 1: Smoking and vaping.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't Heather, not at all, beautiful, bright, hard.
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  Speaker 1: Working, industrious.
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  Speaker 2: When did you learn that she was seemingly missing with
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  Speaker 2: her cell phone and purse gone?
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  Speaker 1: When did you learn that?
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  Speaker 6: We didn't really learn she was missing until we found
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  Speaker 6: out about her car. An officer stopped by the house
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  Speaker 6: and said that there was a car part to Peachtree
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  Speaker 6: Boat Landing that was ours, and I realized it was
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  Speaker 6: Heather's car he was talking about, and my husband rode
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  Speaker 6: with him down to the landing to see why it
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  Speaker 6: was left there. We thought maybe she was on the
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  Speaker 6: boat with somebody. But the fact that she wouldn't answer
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  Speaker 6: her phone, which never happens. She always has her phone
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  Speaker 6: on in handy she always answered that was a worrisome issue.
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  Speaker 6: But it took us calling everybody to realize there was
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  Speaker 6: something very wrong.
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  Speaker 7: But her not answering her phone.
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  Speaker 6: Was a big clue that something was very wrong.
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  Speaker 2: We are showing you shots not only of Heather but
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  Speaker 2: of her green dodge and trap and found parked abandoned,
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  Speaker 2: interesting perpend to the parking spaces at Peachtree Landing Boat Launch,
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  Speaker 2: completely unlike her. Look at the way she kept her
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  Speaker 2: vehicle in perfect pristine condition.
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  Speaker 1: You know, car nuts.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter is the same way, missus Elvis. Her car
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  Speaker 2: is spotless, unlike everybody else in our family. She won't
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  Speaker 2: let the dog get in it, she won't let the
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  Speaker 2: cat get in it. She won't let me in it
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  Speaker 2: with my hot tea.
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  Speaker 1: No way.
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  Speaker 2: And I find it very curious, very curious. Let me
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  Speaker 2: go out to Nancy Livesay, Hoary County prosecutor, intimately familiar
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  Speaker 2: with the investigation.
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  Speaker 1: In this case. Nancy, I know that may not mean.
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  Speaker 2: A lot to other people, but to me, that's very,
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  Speaker 2: very probative. And it reminds me of a case you
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  Speaker 2: and I are familiar with of Tara Grinstead, a gorgeous
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  Speaker 2: young a teacher, high school teacher. She's a beauty queen
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  Speaker 2: that goes missing suddenly out of South Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: And the search went on and on and on.
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  Speaker 2: And when I met with her mother, we walked through
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  Speaker 2: her home and Nancy, her home was in perfect condition
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  Speaker 2: like it had just been professionally.
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  Speaker 1: Clean, and I found out she was a neat nick.
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  Speaker 2: Like Heather and her car right and I noticed that
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  Speaker 2: the lamp was askew in her bedroom, like the shade
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  Speaker 2: was messed up, and I thought she would not have
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  Speaker 2: walked out with that, because it's.
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  Speaker 1: Even bothering me.
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  Speaker 2: Then I looked at her car, Nancy, the car, which
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  Speaker 2: she kept like Heather did, perfectly pristine, was covered in
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  Speaker 2: mud on the outside and the front seat. She was
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  Speaker 2: a petite young lady, the seat was reared all the
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  Speaker 2: way back for a really tall person to dry. And
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  Speaker 2: I knew right then that Tara Grinstead was long gone.
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  Speaker 2: Now would it mean anything to a jury, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but it meant something to me. Heather was a neat
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  Speaker 2: nick about her car. Why would she leave it parked
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  Speaker 2: perpendicular to the other spots and abandoned.
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  Speaker 1: She would never do that.
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  Speaker 7: No, absolutely, And I think two. What speaks to me
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  Speaker 7: and spoke to the police department was I think this
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  Speaker 7: meant that clearly someone picked her up that she was
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  Speaker 7: comfortable with. This was not a struggle, This was not
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  Speaker 7: a stranger abduction, but this was a situation where she
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  Speaker 7: got out of the car, and she knew the individual
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  Speaker 7: that she was going to meet.
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  Speaker 2: She had her phone, her purchasing Nancy Live say, if
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  Speaker 2: she had not known the individual, how would you expect
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  Speaker 2: the scene to look differently? Because now I'm thinking back
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  Speaker 2: to a morning anchor Jodhus and Trut who didn't show
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  Speaker 2: up for her show first thing in the morning. Her
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  Speaker 2: car was sitting out in the parking lot much like Heather's,
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  Speaker 2: except a shoe, one of her high heeled shoe and
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  Speaker 2: some hairsprung was lying in the parking lot near her car,
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  Speaker 2: which to me indicated that fell out of her pocketbook
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  Speaker 2: and she lost her She would have struggled.
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  Speaker 1: But you're saying just the way that this is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Nancy Laife say, hey, you know, Jimmy Richardson, you got
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  Speaker 2: to keep her right there.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you know that.
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  Speaker 2: What would you have expected at the scene if there
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  Speaker 2: had been a struggle.
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  Speaker 7: Something similar to what you just discussed, a missing shoe,
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  Speaker 7: jumped and fallen out of her pocketbook, maybe even the phone.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe the person got the phone from her and she
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  Speaker 7: lost control of the phone. But clearly the fact that
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  Speaker 7: the doors were locked, the windows were up, she had
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  Speaker 7: her phone she had her keys, she had her pocketbook.
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  Speaker 7: There was no sign of a struggle at all.
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  Speaker 8: Interesting jump in there was a trailer park right beside
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  Speaker 8: Peachtree Landing, and the police comb that trailer park or
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  Speaker 8: anyone that would have heard the sign of a struggle, gunshot, argument,
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  Speaker 8: anything like that. And it was within fifty yards of
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  Speaker 8: where Heather's car was parked in the middle of the
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  Speaker 8: night with very little sound. Nobody heard anything, so it
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  Speaker 8: had to be a very quiet abduction.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I am looking at shots of Heather right now.
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  Speaker 2: Morgan Elvis is Heather's sister. Extremely close. I guess the
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  Speaker 2: closest person in the world to me, other than my
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  Speaker 2: twins and my husband, would be my sister, my sister
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  Speaker 2: that I grew up with. Morgan, When did you learn
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  Speaker 2: that Heather was missing? I'm going to get to the affair,
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  Speaker 2: her unwitting affair with a married man.
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  Speaker 1: What is it with married men? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, I want to talk to you, Morgan, about when
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  Speaker 2: you learned Heather had seemingly just disappeared into thin air.
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  Speaker 9: I was at the basketball game and I'm just done this.
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  Speaker 9: I know it sounds weird and eveling that something was wrong,
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  Speaker 9: I'd felt kind of off, and so I was sat
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  Speaker 9: at this basketball game, was kind of relaying and turned
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  Speaker 9: around and at the top of the bleachers my mother
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  Speaker 9: was looking back at me, and she had a face
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  Speaker 9: I had never seen her there before, and I knew
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  Speaker 9: immediately something was terribly, terribly wrong. So she came down.
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  Speaker 9: She had tears in her eyes, and she said, we
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  Speaker 9: have to go out, We have to leave now. And
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  Speaker 9: I didn't really know what was going on at that point,
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  Speaker 9: but I knew, you know, this is something very dramatic,
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  Speaker 9: this is something life altering. We got in the car
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  Speaker 9: and it was silent on the way home, and when
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  Speaker 9: I got there, it felt like everything happened so quickly
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  Speaker 9: and in slow motion. At the same time, I learned
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  Speaker 9: through hearing the conversations and kind of watching what was
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  Speaker 9: going on. My dad was in a panic and a
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  Speaker 9: frenzy on the phone, calling everyone he knew. My mom
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  Speaker 9: was trying to tell me what was going on, but
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  Speaker 9: wasn't really making any sense. It was a whirl end,
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  Speaker 9: and honestly, I've blocked out a lot of the details
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  Speaker 9: of that night. I remember more how I felt and
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  Speaker 9: less about the actual words that were said.
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  Speaker 2: I want to go to doctor Chloe Carmichael with US
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  Speaker 2: renownedd psychologist, author of Nervous Energy, How Harnessed the Power
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  Speaker 2: of your anxiety?
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Chloe did did you hear what she was saying?
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  Speaker 2: She remembers the moment and I'm projecting again when I
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  Speaker 2: learned something had happened to my fiance, I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: at the moment he had been murdered. I remember exactly
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  Speaker 2: where I was, what happened, the exact words that were said.
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  Speaker 1: But then.
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  Speaker 2: Time before that, months, time after that, months and months
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  Speaker 2: bordering on years are a blur. What is that phenomenon
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  Speaker 2: that the sister Morgan has lost chunks of memory around
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  Speaker 2: that she can remember feelings, but not exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 10: Sure, Nancy, we call that a flash bulb memory, where
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  Speaker 10: you have that moment in time and you remember it very,
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  Speaker 10: very clearly, and oftentimes it is normal to not really
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  Speaker 10: remember everything else so well after that point, because all
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  Speaker 10: of a sudden, that's a moment where your mind was
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  Speaker 10: given something really big and difficult to process, and so
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  Speaker 10: after that point things can get a little bit blurry
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  Speaker 10: as well as the time before, because the flashbulb moment
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  Speaker 10: is such a disorientating moment.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at shots of Heather right now
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  Speaker 2: and I believe that this is the outfit she was
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  Speaker 2: wearing where she worked, the Tilted Kilt, a restaurant. Joining me,
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  Speaker 2: Peter Sister, former lieutenant at Horry County PD who worked
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  Speaker 2: on Heather's disappearance. Peter, it's great to have you along
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  Speaker 2: with Nancy and Jimmy.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys.
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  Speaker 11: Peter.
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  Speaker 2: I want to focus on what jumped out at you
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  Speaker 2: at the scene where her.
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  Speaker 1: In shrepid was found, but also at first look at
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  Speaker 1: the out fit that she wore.
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  Speaker 2: It's not exactly a Hooter's outfit, but it's a revealing outfit.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what all the waitresses wore at the Tilted Kilt,
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  Speaker 2: and that would make me concerned as an investigator on
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  Speaker 2: the case, but makes me concerned right now that that
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  Speaker 2: really opens up your pool of suspect. Every weirdo that
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  Speaker 2: came into the Tilted Kilt and would stare or ogle
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  Speaker 2: the waitresses suddenly becomes a suspect. Let's see that that
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  Speaker 2: outfit that she had to wear at Tilted Kilt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that go ahead, Peter.
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  Speaker 12: Outfits like that are are common in restaurants like Hooters
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  Speaker 12: and Tilted Kilt. They're revealing yet not you know, too revealing,
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  Speaker 12: And it's to draw attention, you know, with the customers
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  Speaker 12: obviously Hooters and Tilted Kilt, you know, target and mail customers,
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  Speaker 12: you know, and entice them with how you know, pretty
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  Speaker 12: the girls look. So yeah, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Guys.
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  Speaker 2: You're looking at shots of Heather Elvis. Where is Heather?
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  Speaker 2: All we know right now is her car is found
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  Speaker 2: parked perpendicular to all the other spots, and she's gone
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  Speaker 2: with her cell phone and her pocketbook. But she's not
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  Speaker 2: answering the cell phone. This is just a nineteen year.
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  Speaker 1: Old girl who has been lured.
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  Speaker 2: Into a sex affair with a much older and secretly
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  Speaker 2: married man with three children.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, what could go wrong? The search is on for Heather. Listen.
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  Speaker 5: Corey County Police begin a missing person investigation. The area
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  Speaker 5: around where her car is found in the boat landing
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  Speaker 5: is searched by investigators, and the river bed is searched
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  Speaker 5: by a team of rescue divers from Coastal Carolina University.
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  Speaker 5: Searching physically around the area of the car is fruitless,
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  Speaker 5: but using digital information from herself, number investigators begin to
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  Speaker 5: build a timeline. Myrtle Beach, South Carolina is known as
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  Speaker 5: a vacation destination for spring breakers and families alike, but
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  Speaker 5: it's also a wonderful area to raise a family. Heather
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  Speaker 5: Elvis is the oldest of Terry and Debbie Elvis's children,
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  Speaker 5: and at twenty years old, she's moved out of the
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  Speaker 5: family home and is living in an apartment with her
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  Speaker 5: best friend and roommate, Brie Worrelman. Worrelman and Elvis work
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  Speaker 5: together at the Tilted Kilt restaurant.
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  Speaker 1: You know, at a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of colleges and universities, they only have room for
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  Speaker 2: people to live in the dorms, say the first year
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  Speaker 2: or the first two years, and then the students are
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  Speaker 2: expected to go to off campus housing. At nineteen years old,
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  Speaker 2: Heather had just moved in with her best friend, her roommate, Brianna,
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  Speaker 2: and then here comes trouble.
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  Speaker 13: Listen Well, working as a hostess at the Tilted Kilt,
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  Speaker 13: Heather Elvis meets Sidney Moore, a welder by trade. Moore
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  Speaker 13: has a company called Palmetto Maintenance that handles service of
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  Speaker 13: restaurant equipment. Heather Elvis has an immediate attraction to Moore,
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  Speaker 13: even though he is nearly twice her age.
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  Speaker 1: She was happy. I mean she she had a crush
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  Speaker 1: or you know, an affinity for him, and it was mutual.
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  Speaker 1: They both, you know, courted each other. And I bet
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  Speaker 1: it was mutual.
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  Speaker 2: An old man like him hitting on a team girl.
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  Speaker 1: What about those three children at home? That was smart?
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  Speaker 2: Friends at WPDE ABC fifteen Straight out to Michael Baher, director,
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  Speaker 2: producer of Vanished the Heather Elvis Case and founder of
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  Speaker 2: True Case Films. He also created a docuseries, Vanished the
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  Speaker 2: Heather Elvis Case. Michael Bayer, from all I have learned,
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  Speaker 2: this nineteen year old girl did not know at the
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  Speaker 2: beginning that her love object was married with three children.
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  Speaker 1: That's correct, Nancy.
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  Speaker 14: In the beginning, in the first few dates, she had
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  Speaker 14: no idea that he was a married man.
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  Speaker 2: But isn't it true, Michael, And I've learned this from
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  Speaker 2: you and your incredible popodcast and docuseries Vanish the Heather
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  Speaker 2: Elvis Case. That he, however, was going around bragging about
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  Speaker 2: his dating a much younger woman, Heather, and was telling
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  Speaker 2: people that he and his wife had an open marriage.
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  Speaker 1: Is that true?
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  Speaker 14: That's correct? So he was open about the relationship at
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  Speaker 14: the Tilted Kill he worked there along with Heather, so
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  Speaker 14: he was also telling people, Look, you know my wife
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  Speaker 14: knows about this. You know she has her own relationships too,
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  Speaker 14: So this isn't something that you know, is unnormal or
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  Speaker 14: anything like that. We have an open relationship, is what
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  Speaker 14: he was telling everybody around there.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, hold it right there, Michael Bayer.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a much older guy dating a teen girl
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  Speaker 2: who doesn't know that he is married with three children,
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  Speaker 2: and he's bragging about having an open marriage. I've made
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  Speaker 2: it very clear, Jimmy Richardson, Horry County Solicitor, with my husband,
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  Speaker 2: open marriage, open casket. I think he understands it really well.
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy Richardson. Now it's my understanding, and I'm learning a
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  Speaker 2: lot of this from you, and a lot of this
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  Speaker 2: from Michael Bhaer and his podcast and documentary that the
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  Speaker 2: older man had had many other sex affairs, but the
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  Speaker 2: wife never cared until Heather Elvis came along.
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  Speaker 1: Why.
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  Speaker 8: I think Heather was beautiful and very young, and I
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  Speaker 8: think that his wife really when she found out about Heather,
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  Speaker 8: she was not nearly These other girls had never been
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  Speaker 8: that beautiful or young, and I don't think she was
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  Speaker 8: threatened by them, not to the extent that she was
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  Speaker 8: by Heather. I think that Sydney had actually fallen for
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  Speaker 8: Heather in some sort of way where maybe the other
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  Speaker 8: ones it was just a true.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as you heard Michael Bhaer say earlier, he worked
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  Speaker 2: at Tilted Kill, not on the payroll, but he would
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  Speaker 2: do maintenance there. And I can just see this old
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  Speaker 2: perv walking around staring at Heather Elvis while he's got
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  Speaker 2: three children at home.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, the wife does find out.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, Heather Elvis and Sidney Moore are not secretive about
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  Speaker 5: their affair. Heather doesn't know Moore is married, but in
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  Speaker 5: a matter of week, Sidney Moore's wife, Tammy, finds out
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  Speaker 5: and confronts Heather. Tammy Moore begins making calls to Heather's phone,
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  Speaker 5: sending text messages, and even sends pictures of her and
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  Speaker 5: Sidney having sex. Tammy isn't just terrorizing Heather Elvis. Friends
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  Speaker 5: of the couple say Tammy was always in charge of
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  Speaker 5: her relationship with Sidney, and now she forces Sidney to
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  Speaker 5: get a tattoo of her name above his crotch.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, you know, I'm sure I need a
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  Speaker 2: shrink on this, but you know, it just seems to
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  Speaker 2: me Nancy Life say here Horry County prosecutor intimately familiar
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  Speaker 2: with this case, that if you have to force your
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  Speaker 2: husband to get your name tattooed right above his crotch,
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  Speaker 2: you should probably just break up.
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  Speaker 1: If it's come to that. It's like branding him.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: If you can't trust him as far as you can
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: throw him, just get rid of him, start over with
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: somebody new, consider it a starter marriage, and get the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: real one for Pete's sake.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: I couldn't agree more. And it wasn't just the tattoo
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: that she had taken his phone. We had information where
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: she was handcuffing him to the bed instead of letting
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: him go. Tammy took the opposite route and double down
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: on Sydney and her control of Sydney.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I've got a question. Is he.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: The married man? You all refer to him by his
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: first name. I guess you're all on a first name
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: basis with him. I'm not Sidney Moore wife Tammy Moore.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Is he younger than Tammy Moore? Does anybody know that.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: He is younger but just spent maybe two or three
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: years it's been a huge age gap, but he is
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: a little younger than.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: No, it's not Nancy live say, but doctor Chloe Carmichael.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: It could be one year, it could be six months.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: That goes into her mentality the wife, the freaky, jealous,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: tattoo loving wife, the branding wife, because in her mind,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you, Oh, I got a younger man, I'm
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: going to have a hard time holding on to him.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: My question is why would you want to? I mean,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: you've already raised children. Why raise a man for Pete's sake?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: But that said, I think this played into her paranoia,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Doctor Chloe.
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: Well, Nancy, I totally agree with you. I mean, obviously
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: the sensible thing to do would be to just move on.
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: But my guess is it could be a variety of things.
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: But she might have felt like that would be admitting defeat.
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: You know, sometimes there can be just a really fierce
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: sense of competition, and instead of leaving, because that would
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: feel like, you know, kind of going away with your
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: tail between your leg, the wife might feel like she
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: has to kind of come back and reclaim him.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Nancy Grace, Heather Elvis, Room Made and best Friends says
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Tammy Moore harasses the much younger Heather by calling her
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: for hours on end. Tammy even calls Heather using Sydney's
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: phone and forces Sydney to tell Heather she meant nothing
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: to him, she was just a booty call, and other
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: horrible things that leave Heather Elvis in a state of shock.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: It takes time, but the calls in tech slow down
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: and eventually stop, and Heather begins looking forward to the
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: future again too.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Debbie and Morgan Elvis, this is these are Heather's mom
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and sister. Did she ever reveal to you, Debbie, all
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: of the harassing phone calls from the.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Tammy Moore?
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Did she ever state that she was concerned about it
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: and that they wouldn't stop.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: They were all hours of the day or night.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: She mentioned some phone calls when she got sent home
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: from work. There was a problem at work where she
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: was being harassed and police recalled.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: She was sent home.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: She was Heather does not like to miss work.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: And she was very upset about being sent home and
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: missing work. So she came to the house and was
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: telling me. She read me this whole conversation on the phone,
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: and the last of it she responded with the period,
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: and she said, because that's what I think about that,
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: and was telling me that this girl was obsessed with her,
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: that it was an ex of somebody that she had
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: been dating, that she was no longer dating, and that's
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: all I knew. I didn't know about married mann. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: didn't know about all of the phone calls and texts
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: and pictures, so she was I didn't know any of
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: that until Again.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: She probably didn't want you to know what had happened
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: in her life. And I'd like to point out that
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the reason she came home from work that day is
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: that some of the other waitresses were making fun of
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: her about Tammy Moore constantly calling her and texting her,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: and they were making light of it, and it was
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: just too much for this little teen girl to take.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: But we know, Michael Bayer that as time went on,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: weeks went by, months went by, the call subsided and
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: she began dating another guy more her age, right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 14: That's correct. She ended up meeting a guy named Steven Schiraldi.
• 23:44
  Speaker 14: I think it was over Instagram. They went to the
• 23:47
  Speaker 14: same high school, but I don't think they knew each
• 23:49
  Speaker 14: other in high school. So someone that she met over
• 23:51
  Speaker 14: social media and then she agreed to go on a
• 23:54
  Speaker 14: date with.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Him, and I was looking at their day.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: They were driving around looking at Christmas lights, and he
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: was teaching her to drive a stick shift. I know
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: that because she took a selfie of herself trying to
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: learn to drive a stick shift, and he brings her
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: home that night.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: Steven Schiraldi drops Heather Elvis off at her apartment around
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: one fifteen am December eighteenth. Heather's best friend and room mate,
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Breed Warrelman, is visiting family out of state when Heather
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: calls her at one forty four am. Breed thinks Heather
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: is calling to tell her about her date. Instead, Heather
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Elvis is hysterical. She tells Warrelman Sidney Moore called telling
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: her he's leaving his wife and wants her to meet
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: up with him. Warrelman tells Elvis not to meet with
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: him right now, just sleep on it. The call lasts
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: for two minutes.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: So Nancy live say, let me understand Sidney Moore and
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: his crazy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Wife, Tammy Moore. And I mean that in a liy sense,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: not the legal sense. She's not insane.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: After a period of quiet, suddenly he the married ex
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: of three children, calls her in the middle of the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: night and says he wants to get back together and
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to come meet him.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: That right, that's right.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: And we figured out later that that phone call was
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: made from a payphone, so Sydney had gone. Sidney Moore
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: had gone to a payphone around one thirty in the
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: morning and placed this call to Heather Elvis. The phone
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: call was about four minutes and you see from the
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: phone call that she immediately calls the roommate and relays
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: everything said on the phone call.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And that phone call is where everything goes sideways.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Listen, we know that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: The cell phone was last used three forty one Wednesday
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: morning am.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: That's being a confer Investigators find that a phone call
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: was placed to Heather at one thirty five am from
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: a payphone. According to what roommate brewel police, this might
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: have been a call from Sidney Moore. Heather cell phone
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: receives another call from a payphone at two thirty am,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: no one answers. At three thirty seven am, Heather's phone
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: moves from Peacetree Landing. Shortly after three thirty seven am,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: multiple calls are made to Sidney Moore's phone, but go unanswered.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: At six am, all activity on Heather's phone stops.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: That's our friends at hl N. But then we have
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: to look at the digital phone records. What do we
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: learn to Peter Sister, former Lieutenant Horry County PD, who
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: worked this case. What did the digital the cell phone
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: evidence show you? And who uses a payphone?
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: For Pete's sake, he had used a payphone to contact
• 26:39
  Speaker 11: her at about one point thirty in the morning, but
• 26:42
  Speaker 11: the digital signal from her phone, we're able to track
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: her phone after that point where she travels.
• 26:51
  Speaker 12: Back home to her apartment and then travels further north
• 26:57
  Speaker 12: in the Myrtle Beach area. I'm assuming looking to meet
• 27:03
  Speaker 12: up with him. She then turns around, comes back towards
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: her apartment stocks there momentarily before her phone tracks from
• 27:12
  Speaker 12: her apartment straight down to the Peachtree Landing.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: After a period of doldrums where this young teen girl
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: hears nothing from her married ex or his crazy wife,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: we think we understand now what was the tipping point?
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Listen investigators be in to build a case. Phone records
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: reveal activity between Heather and Sydney Moore's phones in the
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: early hours of December eighteenth, surveillance footage shows more purchasing
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: a pregnancy test at Walmart at one twelve am, and
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Moore is also captured on surveillance making a call from
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: a payphone to Heather's cell phone at one thirty five am.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my stars to Nancy live say joining us Hory
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: County Prosecutor Nancy. So the all married man gets the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: teen girl pregnant? Is that who? The pregnancy test is
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: four and the wife is in there or the husband
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: is in there buying a pregnancy test, and then we
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: see him at a payphone calling her.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: That's correct, and that's what the evidence shows, is that
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: there had been some changes in Heather Elvis's body prior
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: to this phone call, and in fact such a significant
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: change she required a new uniform at Tilted Killed. There
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: had been phone calls from.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Call on just to moment.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Richardson, Nancy Livesay is being extremely delicate.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Richardson, Horry County Solicitor. What do you mean? Why did
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: she have to get a new uniform? Richardson?
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: She had gone from like a be cup to a
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: D cup almost over night. Her breast had grown. She
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: had had to change uniforms and go up like two sizes,
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: and she was apparently talking to other workers that she
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: felt like she was pregnant. Plus they were putting two
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: and two together. That is why we believe that fifteen
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: minutes before being caught on the payphone, which was caught
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: by camera, he was caught by another camera at Walmart
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: buying a cigar and a pregnancy test. So he immediately
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: went from the Walmart straight up the road. Tammy was
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: in the vehicle with him. They drive straight up the
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: road maybe half of a mile to that payphone, and
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: that is the first call that Heather is heard from
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: Sydney Moore in.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Months Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: When was the last time you were here with them
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: or talk to them or anything like that. It was
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: earlier tonight. I don't know the exact time, but okay,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I left.
• 30:09
  Speaker 14: I was probably going an hour and a half for
• 30:11
  Speaker 14: my mom's and I saw them about forty five minutes
• 30:13
  Speaker 14: before that.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. We all know.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Alex Murdog now convicted of the double murders of his
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: wife Maggie and son Paul, gunning them down, then pretending
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: he wasn't at the crime scene. That's him lying to
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: police about being at his mom's at the time the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: two were murdered. But you know what, cell phone data
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: doesn't lie. Neither didn't have systems in his car. But
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I love the way he broke off just for like
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: a split one second to have a little whimper of.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Pain, really murdog.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Same thing here to Michael Baher producer of Vanished to
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Heather Elvis Cases documentary as well, what does the digital
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: path prove about these payphones and her phone as well?
• 31:06
  Speaker 14: Well, I think the investigators were able to kind of
• 31:09
  Speaker 14: put together a path of where Hea there was because
• 31:13
  Speaker 14: after getting that payphone call, she was then her phone
• 31:17
  Speaker 14: pinged and she had another her cell phone call where
• 31:19
  Speaker 14: she went out to the Carolina Forest and that's where
• 31:22
  Speaker 14: she ended up speaking to Sidney Moore. And then she
• 31:25
  Speaker 14: actually went back to her apartment. They're able to ping
• 31:29
  Speaker 14: it there, and then she finally then went to the
• 31:33
  Speaker 14: Peachtree Boat Landing where her phone pinged one more time
• 31:36
  Speaker 14: and that was the last time that it pinged.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: The Antebelle and home we're showing you is actually divided
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: up into apartments.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: This is her apartment.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Her phone pained there to Peter to Stare and joining
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: us former lieutenant and Horry County PD who worked this case.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: What did you make the digital evidence? The self evidence?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: It's powerful, The triangulation process is undeniable, and it proves
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: a lot. I don't care what these two say. The
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: digital evidence shows something very different. And again, who uses
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: a payphone when you've got a cell phone? You use
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: a payphone? Or put your phone in airplane mode or
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: turn it off like Brian Coburger.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Out of all the.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Time his phone was monitored, when did he turn it
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: off when he's leaving the quadruple murder scene?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: According to prosecutors? So what did you learn?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: What did you learn from a review of all of
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: this digital evidence?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Peter?
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: The phone tells the entire story of what's going on. Obviously,
• 32:44
  Speaker 12: you can't tell whether the phone is in Heather's possession,
• 32:48
  Speaker 12: but that's the assumption. But the phone tracks from her
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: apartment up to that long Beard's Bar and grill. And
• 32:59
  Speaker 12: the reason why I believe it tracked up to there
• 33:02
  Speaker 12: was at some point Sydney Moore had told Heather that
• 33:06
  Speaker 12: he was working at Longhorns, another local steakhouse. I think
• 33:12
  Speaker 12: she did not quite understand what he said and thought
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: it was Long Beards, which is closer to her home.
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: She then travels up there spends about fifteen minutes. The
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: phone then travels back down towards her apartment, stops in
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: the parking lot of her apartment again before it then
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: begins to move again, going south from her residence to
• 33:37
  Speaker 12: the Peachtree Landing.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And you know what else is interesting, peters to stare,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: is my understanding that Timmy and cdey Moore lived about
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: three miles from the landing Ptree Landing where her intrepid
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: her car is found part perpendicular.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Isn't that right? They live very close to that.
• 33:56
  Speaker 12: That's correct, They do live very close. And the road
• 34:00
  Speaker 12: take you from the Mora's house to the Peachtree Landing
• 34:04
  Speaker 12: is all back roads, so it's not like you're coming
• 34:07
  Speaker 12: out onto any main highways. However, in those back roads
• 34:12
  Speaker 12: were some cameras that enabled us to catch glimpses of
• 34:17
  Speaker 12: vehicles going by.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so happy you said that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Peter Sistaire still on the money here, former Lieutenant Hory
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: County PD. He knows the facts like the back of
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: his hands. Nancy Live say he's right, And dare I
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: bring up Alex Murdoch again, who arranged for himself to
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: be shot in the head. He lived, but he thought
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: there were no cameras anywhere around when that happened. But
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: lo and behold on that rural road where he had
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: his dope dealer shoot him and then try to pretend
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it was the real killer of his wife and son.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: There was a security survey camera at a Baptist church
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: way down the road where he turned.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: In, and he was busted on that video surveillance.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Nancy, explain to me, what is Peter Sisier talking about
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: that a Ford f one fifty, a dark Ford f
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: one fifty is passed going to the landing where her
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: car was found.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Who's for f one fifty? I think I know the
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: answer to that.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: That's right, It's going to be Sidney Moores and Tammy Moore's.
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: And in fact, there was one camera on eight fourteen,
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: which was the road they lived on, and then when
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: you take a right to get on Mill Pond to
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: go down to the landing, there was a second camera,
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: so you literally see them leave their house, go down
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: eight fourteen, they're caught on camera, and then take the
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: right and go down Mill Pond and go towards Peachtree Landing,
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: so they were called twice clearly going to the landing.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Did a married woman, the mother of three, manipulate her
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: husband to help her commit murder of a teen girl,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: a restaurant hostess now pregnant with her husband's baby. It
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be the first time women have manipulated their love
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: object into murder. Listen when Jay asked, Okay, well, what
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: did you do about it?
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Back then?
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: Diane looked this man dead in the eyes and said,
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: I made him kill the girl.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Dating with high school Dianza Mora and David Graham planned
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: to serve in the Navy and Air Force, respectively after graduation.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: They also planned to get married. When David confesses to
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Diane that he had sex with another girl, Adrian Jones,
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: so Mara becomes hysterical and tells him the only way
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: she'll ever trust him again is if he kills Jones.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Graham agrees and lures Jones out of her house, drives
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: her to Joe Pool Lake. Once parked, Diane Zamora, quietly
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: hidden in the vehicle, hits Jones in the head with
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: a dumbbell. Jones tries to run, but Graham gives chase,
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: catches her, and shoots her twice in the head, with
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: the whole world.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: In front of them.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Cadets at the Naval Academy and the Air Force Academy
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: plot murder and then murder a sixteen year old little
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: girl that was working at a drive through over jealousy.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Sound familiar.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: And then, of course there's the case of Potus Dulos,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: who murders his wife, Jennifer Dulos, the mother of their
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: five children, with the help of his lover, Michelle Traconas.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: There you see the video of Potus at Dulos throwing Oh,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: there's Michelle Traconas rearing her ugly head, the two of
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: them throwing out bloody items, shirts, bra rags, sponges, drenched
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and the blood of Jennifer Dulos. What makes a woman
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: help a murderous man, or in the current case, what
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: makes a woman manipulate her husband into killing his teen lover?
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: That's the question. Then, of course we've got Natalie Keepers
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: and David Eisenhower. She took part Natalie Keepers and the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: murder and the disposal of the body of a little girl,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: a thirteen year old girl.
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: You're David, You're my crush, and I know you don't
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: think of me like that, and I don't care.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: I will always be here.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: If you're looking for a good time, I'm here. When
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: you had a bad day, I'm here. And I don't
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: want that to change. I want to be in your
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: life for as long as you can see.
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: Any And I know I'm annoying and I asked her
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: too much, but I'm a girl and I have a
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: hard and feelings and my feelings get hurt a lot,
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: but it's never been.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Hurt by you, and I like that.
• 38:42
  Speaker 15: The FBI figured out that Cool had regular Will you
• 38:45
  Speaker 15: use the app? Kick? That app allows teens to communicate
• 38:48
  Speaker 15: anonymously so their parents don't know. David Eisenhower lured this
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  Speaker 15: little girl out of her home with promises of a
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  Speaker 15: quote secretsty and murdered her in cold blood because he
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  Speaker 15: was apparently afraid that the relationship was going to be
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  Speaker 15: exposed by this precious little girl. When Cool body was found,
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  Speaker 15: she had fourteen stab wounds. One was to the neck,
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  Speaker 15: as confirmed by a medical expander.
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  Speaker 2: A little teen girl murdered, and Natalie Keepers was right
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  Speaker 2: in there helping Eisenhower do the deed.
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  Speaker 1: I guess the one that would.
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  Speaker 2: Really take the cake would be killer wife Carla Homolka.
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  Speaker 5: Carla Hamolka and Paul Bernardo looked like the couple poised
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: atop a wedding cake, but their beautiful looks hide an
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: ugly secret. Together, the married couple rape, torture, and kill
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  Speaker 5: at least three underage girls, including Carla's little sister Tammy.
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  Speaker 5: When Tammy chokes on her own vomited dies. Based on
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: statements from Hamoka and Bernardo, the death is ruled an
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: accident straight.
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  Speaker 2: Out to Debbie and Morgan Elvis, the mom and sister
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  Speaker 2: of Heather.
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  Speaker 1: Now that we know.
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  Speaker 2: That these two gules straight from Hell's and Timmy Moore
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  Speaker 2: are responsible for the disappearance of Heather, what is your
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  Speaker 2: message tonight, Debbie.
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  Speaker 6: I'm hoping that all of this new publicity is going
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  Speaker 6: to bring some new tips in. I'm hoping that somebody
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  Speaker 6: will see this and.
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  Speaker 1: Say, oh, somebody told me about this.
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  Speaker 6: So one of their family members said this, or this
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  Speaker 6: is where they used to hang out or hide stuff,
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  Speaker 6: any little part of information that somebody has about them,
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  Speaker 6: their nature, their lifestyle that might lead us to where
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  Speaker 6: Heather is. That's what I feel comes.
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  Speaker 2: Next do you believe, Debbie, and this is a hard question.
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe that there is any hope that Heather
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  Speaker 2: is still alive? Or are you hoping to bring her
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  Speaker 2: body home and bury her.
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  Speaker 6: I hope to bring her home in any way that's possible,
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  Speaker 6: in any form or that's possible. And I refuse to
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  Speaker 6: give a video hoope about any possible way to bring
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  Speaker 6: her home or anything that might have happened or be happening.
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  Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything about the
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  Speaker 2: disappearance and what many people believe to be the murder
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  Speaker 2: of this teen girl, Heather Elvis, please dial eight four
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  Speaker 2: three nine one five eight four seven seven repeat eight
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  Speaker 2: four three, nine one five, eight four seven seven. We
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: remember American hero Deputy Sheriff Nicholas Waste, Knox County Sheriff's Illinois,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: killed in the line of duty. Survived by wife turned widow, Jessica, children,
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  Speaker 2: Ava and Emery. American hero Deputy Sheriff Nicholas Waste, Nancy
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  Speaker 2: Gray signing off goodbye for
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  Speaker 12: Us