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  And thirty eight. All Bills can win it here, Mike puts it down,
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  Pizza. You could find the online menu in the episode show notes whether you're
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  here on YouTube or any one of the podcasting apps or platforms you are using
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  to listen to this episode on. In tonight's episode of Disguise Coverage, we're
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  going to continue the theme that we've had these past several weeks in the past
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  month or so where we've been again continuing to build upon the groundwork and the
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  foundation for the twenty twenty three season by laying out expectations and philosophical and schematic
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  pieces all over this Bill's team. We did the offense several weeks ago in
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  terms of going over what expectations were and then questions surrounding the offense, and
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  I thought we'd switch it to the defensive side of the ball in this episode
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  and also tie in some pieces that we've seen and her or maybe you haven't
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  seen or heard from OTAs, especially this week. A pretty good defensive focus
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  to start this week for OTAs, with some player interviews, some coaches taking
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  the podium, particularly Bobby Babbage, Bill's linebacker coach aj Klein, spoke on
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  some things, and it's funny, I wasn't going to focus too much on
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  OTAs for this episode. I really again just wanted to focus on what to
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  expect for the Buffalo Bill's defense in twenty twenty three, similar to what we
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  did with the offense again several weeks ago, but in just following along with
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  the OTA pressers and comments and things this week. There were just a lot
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  of really good nuggets that aligned with some thoughts and expectations that we talked about
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  here on this show that myself and Eric Turner have talked about in the Cover
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  one film room, and it just seemed like a really nice merging of ideas
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  here on this episode. I do want to apologize to everyone for no episode
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  of Disguise coverage last week. That's some things going on outside of the podcasting
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  world that prevented me from being able to do the show last week. But
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  I am happy to be back this week and you know, dropping in some
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  some good content here. With the offseason really starting to ramp up. We've
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  talked about it multiple times on this show. Once you get past the draft
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  and then you've got rookie Minicamp, and then it's OTAs for the first week,
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  and then it's OTAH for the second weekend here we are, it's the
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  end of May. June is literally right around the corner. In a couple
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  of days away. Before we know, a training camp will be in full
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  swing, the preseason will be in full swing, and before we know it'll
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  be Week one for the Buffalo Bills on September eleventh, Monday night in New
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  Jersey to face the New York Jets. So it's going to be it's gonna
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  be an exciting time these next several weeks, even though we are in the
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  dull drums of the off season and the deadness of the dead time of the
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  off season. But a fun episode tonight, presented of course by One Pipe
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  Pizza, the best pizza in Buffalo, New York. Hey, RJ,
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  what's up? Appreciate you being here, Pe coming here from Peter. Peter
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  says, do you think Melvin Ingram still has enough juice to make a difference
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  on a minimal deal? Absolutely? I do. I feel like Pam in
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  the Office where Jim tells her like if Dwight ever ask you for an alliance,
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  you like agree and say absolutely I do. If dw I ever asked
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  you if you want to be an alliance, Yeah, absolutely I do.
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  For Melvin Ingram, especially with what he would be for the Bills, like
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  you're looking at him as edge two, edge three hopefully ideally whenever von Miller
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  comes back, I think he's still got a enough juice in the tank from
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  a pass rushing presence. He does enough against the run and no disrespect to
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  what the Bills currently have. But I don't think the edge grouping is at
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  the point where like you really need somebody who's that next level of a guy
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  to come in and leap frog somebody to be like edge two or Edge three
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  or Edge four. Right now, as it stands, again, von Miller,
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  And we're gonna get into this a bit going forward in the episode,
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  but I don't expect von Miller to play in September or even really October.
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  So if you're looking at the edge grouping right now, it's Greg Russo as
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  Edge one, and then Edge two is Shack Lawson or a Japanessa. Bruce
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  Nolan made a pretty good point when I had him on the show last month
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  or two months ago that when Von Miller went down, the Bills kind of
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  showed us what they thought of their edge grouping by making Shack Lawson edge two
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  last year when von Miller went down. Whether or not that's the same case
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  going into this year for twenty twenty three, you know that's yet to be
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  decided. But yeah, at Edge two is either a japan or Shack Lawson,
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  and I don't think either one of those guys are enough to keep the
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  Bills from looking at someone like Melvin Ingram or thinking that he doesn't have enough
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  juice to jump over one of those guys on the depth chart for either Edge
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  three or Edge two. So yeah, I do think he has enough juice
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  left in the tank, especially if you watch some of the tape. He's
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  had a really and his snaps have been limited the last couple of years.
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  But yeah, he's still got juice. He's got passwords, plan, he's
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  got savvy, he's strong, he's still got some burst. I would welcome
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  him to the Edge grouping for the Buffalo Bill's defense. Absolutely thirteen says he
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  a lot of comments come when the chat what's up? Good evening was good?
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  Aren't you saying? The trees looking beautifully? Yet we still got the
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  Memorial Day Garland rocking over here, So we're still in May. It's still
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  Memorial Day month. It really Memorial Day weekend with it just happened in these
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  past several days, so I'm still rocking that Garland. We'll switch it up
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  of course for June. Got to figure out what kind of holiday to rock
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  or work around there. Pete says the defense needs to be healthy, and
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  that's funny because that ties into one of my points later in this episode.
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  I like that. I like that. I like that. R J says
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  it's actually amazing that the defense was fourth in DV away despite the fact that
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  literally every single starter missed at least one game between the regular season and the
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  playoffs. Oh, I guess that is a fair point. I think every
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  starter, literally every single starter missed at least one game yeah, I think
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  with how this season ended against Cincinnati offensively and defensively, a lot of the
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  positives for this season I think have gotten lost in that loss against Cincinnati.
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  You know what Ken Dorsey did as a first year offensive cord later, what
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  Leslie Frasier did with this defense that, like you mentioned, had a bunch
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  of injuries from the front line to the linebackers to the secondary. On the
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  back end, just depth was tested. Practice squad guys had to show up,
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  they had a tough schedule, and yeah, there were a lot of
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  positives to draw from on both sides of the ball, but especially defensively.
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  It's just a shame that again, the season ended the way it did,
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  and I think kind of put a black eye on the season and a potentially
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  black eye on Leslie Frasier as well. I hope he is able to come
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  back in some capacity because I think the way this past season ended, it
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  was just really unfortunate for a guy who has been a very good defensive coordinator
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  for the Bills. Now. I know the playoffs are a different piece.
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  It's a bit of a mixed bag when you're talking Leslie Fraser in his defense,
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  but yeah, the way the season ended was definitely unfortunate for this defense,
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  considering all that they overcame. I mean, at one point they were
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  it was because of the Baltimore game right in that middle part, like the
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  first quarter of the season, like they were they were having to rely on
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  like Brandon Bryant and Elianku because they just had injuries on the interior. Jordan
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  Phillips went down, and ed Oliver went down, and then Von Miller goes
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  down, and all these guys are getting banged up left and right, and
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  Edmunds went down. At one point, Hide is out for the year.
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  Payer goes down, Payer comes back, but he's playing with basically one arm.
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  Trey White is working his way back from n ACL. You got kyre
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  Elam. He got banged up. At one point, Benford breaks his hand.
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  Like all these injuries left and right to all these guys, And yeah,
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  the Bills overcame a decent montas to have a pretty successful regular season defensively,
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  at least I want to put that Cabby on. And then before somebody
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  jumps down my throat, jumps down my throat and yells about the performance in
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  the playoffs, because I get I recognize it. But on the whole.
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  The Bills Devens did have a successful year last year. Let's dive oh regrab
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  this coming from RJ another one ar just says, also, the Bills need
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  to find a way to get Melvin Ingram here this year, and I'm sick
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  of him going to our opponents and taking our lives and nightmare for those games.
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  Sign him and put him on the IR It's actually kind of like not
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  that far off, like he's been like a Josh Allen crypton Nite at one
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  point. And I think going into because like two years ago, the twenty
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  twenty two season, you know, the twenty twenty one season, he was
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  on Pittsburgh in Week one, Pittsburgh beat Buffalo. Then he was on the
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  Chiefs for the playoff game the Chiefs beat Buffalo, and then he was on
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  Miami last year and in that first game against Miami and Week three he was
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  on obviously Miami and the Bills lost in Miami, and he was like Josh
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  Allens krypton I Josh Allen was owing three against Melvin Ingram. So yeah,
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  bring him, bring him to Buffalo, even if you just send him on
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  the bench and reduce his effectiveness against Josh Allen, but I do think he
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  could add some juice to the edge grouping into the lineup as a whole.
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  Thirteen says, Shane Ray seems determined, like really determined. Wonder if he
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  does special team Shane Ray would be a cool story. Former first round pick
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  of the Denver Broncos, went to Baltimore for like a year or two,
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  kind of washed out of the league, has been in the CFL the last
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  several years. Was an All American at the University of Missouri. Was legitimately
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  like a stud coming out of college, and you dropped him into Denver and
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  it was him and DeMarcus Ware and Von Miller and Shane Ray looked kind of
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  like the guy who's gonna, you know, take the crown and step into
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  that DeMarcus Ware role. Once he retired and stepped aside and things just didn't
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  work out for him. But from everything he's been saying and the coaching staff
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  has been saying, he seems like a guy who's legitimately, you know,
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  to your point, like he's really determined to kind of recapture who he was
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  or some semblance of who he was or is in terms of being a regular
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  NFL player again. I think it's going to be a long way to go
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  for him. You know, again, he's been out of the league these
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  past several years for a reason. But I think it's a very low risk
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  but potentially mid level reward if he works out. You take a flyer on
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  a dude who wants to be there, who's gonna grind, who's gonna make
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  his teammates grind and make his his teammates compete, and who knows. Maybe
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  I think it's a long shot, but I don't know if he if he
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  beat out Boogie Basham for Edge four, would I'd be shocked a little bit,
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  but also kind of not really. And I don't know if that says
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  more about Shane Ray or it says more about Boogie Basham in a bad way.
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  But we'll see. I'll take a dude who wants to wants to be
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  here, who wants to bust his ass and is trying to reclaim what he
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  once was because he kind of fell off a little bit, and he's willing
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  to fight mclauwe to get back to it, So we'll see what he can
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  be. Speaking of seeing what things can be, We're going to dive into
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  our first topic here on this episode. So again, this is this is
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  a mixture of what to expect from the Buffalo Bill's defense in twenty twenty three,
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  and then also tying in several nuggets from OTAs into that piece. And
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  if you regularly watch the show, you should know we've talked about this is
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  not sparingly, but a little pieces here and there. We talked about leading
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  into the draft. We've talked about it coming out of the draft. I
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  talked about it on the cover One Film Room with Eric Turner, the identity
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  and philosophy of the Bills defense in twenty twenty three. I think it is
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  due for a change under the stewardship of Sean McDermott. Now, part of
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  this maybe a bit wishful thinking. I don't think. I don't think it
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  is as much anymore, especially after I read some pieces here for you folks
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  from my notes. But you know, when the Bills lost to Cincinnati,
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  the immediate thought was, you know what the defense did wrong in that game
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  and what problems the defense has had come playoff time. And it's been in
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  this large scale, think schematic issue with how they matched up against the top
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  teams in the AFC that has prevented them from being able to get to the
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  super Bowl, that has prevented them from being able to get over the hump.
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  One of those pieces, especially, you know, coming out of the
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  Cincinnati games, so a bit of a low hanging fruit scenario, but the
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  lack of aggressiveness, the lack of versatility, the lack of multiplicity, the
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  lack of aggressiveness coming out of that game against the Bengals, that rightly or
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  wrongly got placed at the feet and onto the shoulders of Leslie Frasier, Leslie
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  Fraser leave. Sean McDermott steps into the role as defensive coordinator, role that
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  he had with the Carolina Panthers most recently that earned him the head coaching job
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  for the Buffalo Bills. I think we all know to know this at this
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  point, and something we've talked about a bunch on the show has been what
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  will this Bills defense look like under the stewardship of Sean McDermott. And AJ
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  Klein spoke today and he had some really, really, really interesting pieces.
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  It was quick, It was on one Bill's Live was about thirteen minutes.
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  But AJ Klein said on Sean McDermott. So he was asked, you know,
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  what do you think of this Bills defensive Sean McDermott in twenty twenty three,
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  like kind of they were trying to feel him out for what he thought
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  this defense would look like under Sean McDermott. And he said, in my
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  forty years there in Carolina from twenty thirteen to twenty sixteen, his leadership and
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  his ability to get us in the right defenses at the right time, and
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  if you go back and watch that tape, you're going to see an aggressive
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  defense. That's his mindset, him being in charge. There's not going to
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  be a change. In my mind, I think he's going to go back
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  to the old defensive play calling Sean. Now, I say that not as
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  like a vindication moment, because that's something that I've been surmising for a good
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  portion of this offseason, but a nice little peak because again, this fits
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  if what we've been trying to do this offseason is trying to pick up the
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  breadcrumbs, trying to connect the puzzle pieces in terms of trying to predict or
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  project what we will see in twenty twenty three from the Buffalo Bills. And
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  one of The biggest question marks is what will this defense look like under Sean
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  McDermott. How much of a change will there be? How much of a
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  hand has he had in the defenses under Leslie Frasier? Was it really Leslie
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  Frasier's defense, Was it more Sean McDermott's defense. How collaborative was it between
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  the two of them, between the rest of the staff. A multitude of
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  questions that have arised from that. What I've spoken about on the show,
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  and again myself and Eric have talked about it in the film room is when
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  you go back to Sean McDermott, his tenure in Carolina got the Carolina Panthers
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  to the Super Bowl in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, if you go to
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  his coaching tree roots with Jim Johnson in Philadelphia, Sean McDermott is an aggressive
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  minded coach. We've said that already. AJ Client spoke about it today.
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  When you take that piece from AJ Client, combined with studying the tape from
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  Carolina and Philadelphia and all these pieces, I think it's very reasonable to expect
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  a change in identity. And I don't want to say necessarily philosophy, because
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  people might define that differently. That's a bit of an arbitrary definition, but
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  I think from an identity perspective, tied end of a philosophical one as well,
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  and then obviously the schematic piece, I think you're going to see a
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  much more aggresive bills defense in twenty twenty three. I think you will see
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  more blitzes, like more all out straight blitzes. They go, see more
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  blitzes, they go, see more simulated pressures. I think you'll see more
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  exotic looks from a coverage standpoint and a defensive front standpoint, especially on third
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  downs, especially when you're in predictive scenarios for a defense. I think you'll
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  see more diversity in the fronts that they use. I don't think you're going
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  to continue to see this static four three overfront where it's like, yep,
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  we got our two ends on the outside, we got a one tech and
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  we got a three tech. Here we go on the snap cool, we're
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  gonna rush four, We're gonna play coverage behind it. There you go.
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  I think you're going to see more diversity in those fronts. I also think
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  you'll see more disguised fronts, whether that means AMIBA fronts or it means mugg
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  in the a gaps and then dropping out, or taking your defensive ends and
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  lining them up over the guards, or taking at a middle linebacker and lining
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  them up on the edge and just flipping where players are a lined, so
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  offenses don't know who's rushing, who's dropping into coverage, if they're dropping into
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  coverage, what coverage is being played. You're trying to id your protection.
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  You're trying to id the rush if you're the offensive line. In the quarterback,
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  you're also trying to id the coverage if you're the quarterback. I think
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  the Bills are going to do a lot more to cause chaos and dictate two
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  offenses in twenty three. I think you'll see them lean into more of the
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  versatility that they have with players. Versatility was an important piece. I'm going
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  to talk about that based on what Bobby Babbage said a little later in this
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  episode. But you take two safeties like Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer, who
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  we've talked about so much on the show. Bill's fans have talked about them,
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  the NFL and analysts have talked about them. At this point, they're
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  arguably the most diverse safety tandem in the NFL with how interchangeable they are in
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  terms of you don't really have a free safety and a strong safety, you
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  just have two safeties. Now, Yes, I think Hide is his strengths
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  play more to a free safety role. Employers play more to a strong safety
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  role. But they're very interchangeable with what they can do, and a lot
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  of what we've talked about in regards to their interchangeability has been in relation to
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  what they can do in coverage, your ability to play two high looks,
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  single high looks. You can have them both buzz down. You can have
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  them both you know, come down and to cover three sky. They both
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  can play that post safety. They both can function in a two high world.
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  They can play spot drop, they can play match coverage. They can
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  do anything and everything you ask of them on the back end. In addition
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  to coming up and fitting the run from depth and fitting the run from a
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  too high look, I also think you'll see more blitzes from them this year.
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  They give you so much versatility from a coverage standpoint, which we've talked
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  about a bunch, but they also give you versatility from a blitzing standpoint because
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  of their skill sets there burst, their speed and also what you can do
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  from a chess piece perspective with high employer. You can line them up in
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  the box and blitz them. You can line them up in the box and
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  have them cover in the hook curls or the flats, or have them man
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  cover and man mirror a running back or a tight end, or drop into
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  the slot and reroute a spot receiver or maybe even man cover that slot receiver,
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  depending on what's going on. They give you so much versatility. I
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  think you'll see Sean McDermott lean into them a bit more. McDermott didn't have
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  when he was in CAROLINEAP. He didn't have the safeties that he has here.
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  No disrespect of the safeties. At that time, they were strong and
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  their linebackers, they were strong on their defensive line, and then they had
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  an emerging Josh Norman who was becoming an All Pro corner on the outside for
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  them. But they didn't have those safeties. But Sean McDermot comes from a
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  world with the Philadelphia Eagles where Jim Johnson had Brian Dawkins. And I'm not
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  comparing these guys. I'm not comparing Poyer and Hide to Dawkins or Dawkins to
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  either of them because they are different. But Johnson used Dawkins in a multitude
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  of ways, from a coverage standpoint, from a runfit standpoint, from a
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  chaos creation, havoc causing blitz attack minded, physical aggressive nature and standpoint.
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  I think you'll see Sean McDermot tap into that a little bit with his safeties.
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  I think he's going to lean into the versatility and the functionality more of
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  the players on this defense. Again, I think you're gonna see less static
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  coverage and static fronts, which again isn't I don't want to say for me,
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  it's needed. I think to finally get over the hump. It's funny
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  again tying to get into this point earlier about RJ's point that he put in
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  the comments about where the Bills finished from a DVOA perspective on defense last year,
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  Like we're sitting here talking about the Bills defense, like they need this
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  complete overhaul and this complete change. When you're in and year out, they're
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  a top ten DVOA defense, they're a top five unit. They're usually top
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  ten or top eight or top five, and points per game allowed, they
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  generate turnovers, they get big stops, but they're just held back a little
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  bit at time, especially in those big boy matchups in the playoffs against those
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  big boy teams, and a lot of it. For me, my issue
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  with it, like we talked about, has been just you kind of know
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  what's coming. They're a vanilla defense. Now, vanilla does not mean simple,
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  because what the Bills defense does is complex. They may not do a
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  lot of things, but what they do requires a lot of repetition, a
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  lot of practice, a lot of execution, a lot of high level communication
• 21:48
  and understanding of what your responsibility and role is as an individual player within the
• 21:55
  bigger, grander scheme of the functionality of the defensive call. But we knew
• 22:00
  what we were going to get. Usually snap in and snap out from the
• 22:03
  Bills, you know, you would get some kind of disguise coverage on the
• 22:07
  back end, might be a two high shell and then they road take down
• 22:10
  to single high or vice versa. You know, you're probably going to get
• 22:12
  some kind of quarters match coverage or some Cover two or a Tampa two or
• 22:18
  Cover one, Cover three. But really you were going to get those match
• 22:22
  coverage principles. You were going to get a four down front. You weren't
• 22:26
  going to see a ton of blitzing. They were going to rush for they
• 22:29
  were going to drop seven, and you kind of knew what coverage was come
• 22:32
  into a degree now because the Bills had the ability, because of their safeties
• 22:37
  and some of their corners, to mix in man with his own two high
• 22:41
  looks single high looks, and then mix that up with their match coverage rules
• 22:45
  and principles. It allowed them to be so successful. Even though they weren't
• 22:48
  the most aggressive defense by nature in terms of how they attacked offenses, they
• 22:55
  they forced you to be efficient and execute, consistently, execute against them consistently.
• 23:02
  They weren't going to give you big plays. They were going to limit
• 23:03
  explosives. They were going to keep everything in front of them, rally and
• 23:07
  tackle, force you into the killbox, make you make tight window throws,
• 23:11
  and beat you over and over and over again. They weren't going to give
• 23:15
  you a forty yard chunk play. If you were going to score a touchdown,
• 23:18
  you're gonna have to do at seven to twelve yards at a time,
• 23:21
  and they were betting that you weren't going to be able to consistently do that
• 23:25
  drive in and drive out in order to beat them. I think you're going
• 23:27
  to see a difference in philosophy and identity from that standpoint from what we've previously
• 23:33
  seen. Again, I think you're going to see more of an attack minded
• 23:37
  team. And a J Clin talked about that, this is a guy who
• 23:40
  was in Carolina in Sean McDermott's real prime as a defensive coordinator, taking helping
• 23:47
  to take a team to the Super Bowl, that Carolina unit. Yes they
• 23:49
  had talent, and client spoke about that today. He talked about like,
• 23:52
  yeah, we had players there, but Sean McDermott's ability to get them in
• 23:56
  the right defenses at the right time. J Klein's words, And if you
• 24:02
  go back and watch that tape, you're going to see an aggressive defense.
• 24:04
  That's his mindset and him being in charge. There's not going to be a
• 24:07
  change. In my mind. I think he's going to go back to that
• 24:11
  old defensive play calling Sean McDermott. I think you're going to see more of
• 24:15
  an aggressive nature to the point where instead of forcing offenses to be efficient and
• 24:22
  beat you, I think Sean McDermott is going to challenge offenses to beat them
• 24:26
  by taking advantage of them if they can. I think they're going to attack
• 24:30
  and it's going to be a limb by the sword, die by the sword.
• 24:33
  Yes, I think they'll mix in some of their softer coverages, which
• 24:37
  plays to the nature of today's NFL. You want to keep everything in front
• 24:41
  of you. You want to limit explosives. You want to dare offenses to
• 24:45
  kind of nickel and dime you down the field if they can. And what
• 24:51
  usually happens is offenses aren't willing to do that. Eventually they try to take
• 24:55
  a shot and it puts behind the sticks. They take a shot on first
• 24:57
  down and they don't get it, and all of a sudden, it's that
• 25:00
  can intend. Now you get them behind the sticks, you get them into
• 25:03
  more predictable situations or disadvantageous situations from a down and distance perspective, and then
• 25:07
  you start to work in your designers because you have them in a predictable spot,
• 25:11
  and you can attack based off of your perceive the perceived vulnerabilities you have
• 25:17
  for them because they're in a predictable spot. But so I do think you'll
• 25:22
  still see some of that. Okay, we're going to make you beat us
• 25:25
  with efficiency piece, but I expect to see more aggressive nature just like aj
• 25:29
  Client spoke about. I was so happy to hear him say that, because
• 25:30
  it's something I've been banging the table for all offseason in terms of talking about
• 25:34
  how this defense will look different. More blitz is more simulated pressures. I
• 25:38
  expect to see the bill sack numbers go up, not necessarily because some players
• 25:44
  have an amazing year, which may happen, but just from a schemeability standpoint,
• 25:48
  I think you're going to see a lot of free runners coming through,
• 25:49
  whether it's through the A gaps, whether it's off the edges. I think
• 25:52
  you're going to see havoc and confusion for offenses because they're gonna have to do
• 25:57
  a lot in terms of being who's rushing? Okay, we got a middle
• 26:02
  linebacker out at edge? Is he is he actually gonna blitz? Is he
• 26:06
  actually rushing? Is he going to drop out? They're showing sixth the line
• 26:08
  of scrimmage. Are all six coming? Is it going to be five?
• 26:11
  Is at four? Is it three? Okay? It's four? Which four?
• 26:14
  Okay? So it's that means two? Or dropping? Who's dropping?
• 26:17
  Where are they dropping? What coverage is it? All of those things stress
• 26:22
  an offense. It stresses an offensive line. It stresses a quarterback. I
• 26:25
  think Sean mcdermot's defense is going to be built to stress the protection of an
• 26:32
  offense. It's going to stress the offensive line, it's gonna stress quarterbacks mentally,
• 26:34
  and I think with that, you're going to see again, more of
• 26:40
  more of a play call and design structure that is geared towards more of an
• 26:42
  aggressive, attack minded nature. I think again, more blitz is, more
• 26:47
  stimulated pressures, more creeper pressures, more exotic looks. You're not just going
• 26:51
  to see that static four three defense, you know, and we're gonna sit
• 26:55
  and just play coverage behind it and see what happens. Especially with von Miller
• 26:57
  out in the beginning of the year, we saw down the stretch a little
• 27:02
  bit. Especially in that playoff game against Miami, the Bills started to use
• 27:06
  simulated pressures in order to generate pressure. It was something that actually bothered me
• 27:10
  in the Miami game. Granted it worked and it helped out, but Miami's
• 27:14
  offense was bad from an offensive line standpoint. I was disappointed that they had
• 27:18
  to use simulated pressures to generate pressure against Miami and beat their offensive line and
• 27:23
  get to Skyler Thompson instead of just being able to use your front four and
• 27:29
  beat their bad offensive line, they had to lean into some of their simulated
• 27:33
  pressures. But we saw them do that down the stretch once von Miller was
• 27:37
  out and they weren't able to generate pressure upfront without him. So if von
• 27:41
  Miller's out to start the year, you might see more blitzes and simulated pressures
• 27:45
  and more schemed up games up front. You might see that dial turned up
• 27:48
  even more to start the year, and maybe it'll taper off a bit once
• 27:52
  von comes back, but that dial might even be more intense come week one,
• 27:56
  two, three, four, all the way until von Miller comes back.
• 28:00
  So I think it's something that there's been rumblings about, especially if you
• 28:04
  watch the show, especially if you watch myself and Eric, or you follow
• 28:07
  me on Twitter at pro Underscore Underscore Anthe's pro two Underscores a NT nice plug.
• 28:11
  It's something we've talked about, but a lot of it has been again
• 28:15
  picking up breadcrumbs, trying to connect the dots, trying to put the puzzle
• 28:18
  pieces together for what this defense will be. Now we're starting to get some
• 28:23
  quotes that are kind of putting some more concrete evidence to those puzzle pieces being
• 28:30
  connected. What's funny. Though Micah Hyde did speak today, Micah Hyde said
• 28:37
  so. He was asked today about any perceived changes to the Bills defense under
• 28:41
  Sean McDermott, and he said, quote, so far, it seems the
• 28:45
  same to me. I'm not calling Mica Hide a liar, but who knows.
• 28:49
  Maybe it's just because you know what they've done so far, it seems
• 28:52
  the same. But I think when we're sitting here after week one, after
• 28:56
  week two, whatever week you want to sit there, whether you have a
• 29:00
  large sample size or a small sample size, I think we'll be sitting here
• 29:03
  next year thinking, Man, this defense feels different, and it doesn't have
• 29:07
  to be a ton I don't think this defense is all of a sudden going
• 29:10
  to switch to like a three four defense and they're gonna be blitzing sixty percent
• 29:14
  of the time. But you will notice differences and tweaks. I think you'll
• 29:18
  see more run stunts. I think you'll see changes in gap integrity and gape
• 29:26
  attacking techniques up front. Maybe you won't see a whole bunch of one gap
• 29:30
  and maybe you'll see more gap and hap, maybe some two gapping at times,
• 29:33
  just mixing guys in in different spots, and all all designed to create
• 29:37
  havoc and chaos and confusion for an offense, stress them mentally to try and
• 29:42
  take advantage of them physically, I think, and then then that'll be done
• 29:45
  again by that aggressive, attack minded nature of Sean McDermott that he had in
• 29:48
  Carolina, that he learned in Philadelphia that AJ Clent spoke to earlier today.
• 29:53
  Again, I think that's something that as we're getting closer to the year,
• 29:57
  I really really really expect that to come to fruition. What this comment here
• 30:03
  from Pete. Pete says, I think there's five defensive ends until Van's back,
• 30:07
  then whoever has done the least is moved or cut. That's fair.
• 30:11
  You could go five defensive ends, and then you can go four interior defensive
• 30:17
  linemen. You go Dea Kwon Jones at, Oliver Puna Ford and Tim Settle.
• 30:22
  It's possibility. I'm still worried about the edge grouping, which we're going
• 30:26
  to talk about in a bit. Oh Billy says, playing a three three
• 30:30
  five flex defense maybe maybe, maybe maybe maybe Pete. On the safeties,
• 30:36
  Pete says, we had a lot of negative plays happened because our backup safeties
• 30:38
  couldn't pursue downhill or anticipate passes. That was actually an issue that I don't
• 30:45
  think it was talked about enough as the season went on, especially, and
• 30:48
  some of this is understandable, you know. Once DeMar Hamlet went down,
• 30:52
  I think it changed the way everybody looked at DeMar Hamlet a bit. But
• 30:56
  he started out so hot, like inter his physicality. He was making plays,
• 31:02
  blitzing, he was making tackles in the open field. He was making
• 31:04
  plays coming from the second level and coming from a too high look and making
• 31:08
  plays downhill. He was fit the run, he was hitting receivers. As
• 31:11
  the season went on, his tackling started to suffer a bit. He was
• 31:18
  missing tackles, he was taking poor angles, he was just getting beat and
• 31:22
  he was guys were just breaking tackles when he would go in and go against
• 31:25
  him. We saw Jaquan Johnson's struggles and then Hamlin. I don't think he
• 31:29
  didn't really get tested too much in coverage, but I don't think there's enough
• 31:33
  sample size really there to say based on how he was used to say like,
• 31:38
  well he was great in coverage or he was deficient in coverage, but
• 31:41
  I think the jury is still out for that. But long story short,
• 31:45
  once Hide went down, and then especially when Poyer went down too, it
• 31:49
  was it was rough. The safeties are important to this defense, and when
• 31:52
  it was Jaquan and Hamlin, the pairing wasn't great. And then Hamlin started
• 31:56
  out real strong and real tough, especially once Payer came back, it looked
• 32:00
  like they had a solid duo. But you know, as the season went
• 32:04
  on, I thought Hamlin's place started to dip a little bit. So you
• 32:07
  know, haven't hiding Poyer back there. Knock on Wood should tremendously, tremendously,
• 32:12
  tremendously help them. RJ says, I agree. I think McDermott will
• 32:15
  start doing more week to week matchup schemes, like how we should have used
• 32:19
  the Chargers blueprint against the Dolphins last year. What's funny about this, though,
• 32:23
  is that so saying that the Bills should have used the Chargers blueprint against
• 32:27
  the Dolphins. The Chargers used the Bills blueprint from Week three. The Chargers
• 32:31
  were doing things that the Bills did in Week three. I wished I had
• 32:36
  the numbers back in front of me, but I dove into this hard for
• 32:38
  that Saturday night matchup of Bills versus Dolphins, and it was, oh,
• 32:43
  have the Chargers discovered the blueprint? Like, oh, did what the forty
• 32:45
  nine ers and the Chargers did? Is that what the Bills should do?
• 32:49
  The forty nine Ers and Chargers were doing a lot of things that the Bills
• 32:52
  did in Week three in terms of man coverage, in terms of walling off
• 32:55
  some of those routes. Now, yes, they still got gamed up by
• 33:00
  some of those window throws that McDaniel was scheming up for TWA and some of
• 33:04
  that little RPO pass action where they kind of flood three to the right and
• 33:08
  use alex Ingold. But a lot of what the Chargers did, some of
• 33:12
  that was inspired by what the Bills did in Week three, So it wasn't
• 33:15
  like they didn't lean into that world, like the Bills kind of put that
• 33:21
  on tape in week three and then use some of it as it went for
• 33:25
  but fair point, fair point, Claude says, I'm glad too, and
• 33:30
  sitting back may work against the bottom fifteen qbs, but the top ten types
• 33:34
  ate it up. And that's the issue, right, Like, if you're
• 33:37
  gonna dare, especially against the Bengals, right, like okay, if you're
• 33:42
  gonna I you're gonna play that philosophy and be like, oh, we're gonna
• 33:44
  dare you to be efficient, like Joe Burrows is gonna be like okay,
• 33:46
  especially last year, like the year before twenty twenty one, Joe Burrow and
• 33:51
  that Bengals offense was a lot of you know, nine to eight nine so
• 33:53
  like a vertical a bender and then at nine so nine being a vertical,
• 33:59
  eight being a bender, nine being a go route. It was a lot
• 34:02
  of goal balls and just throwing stuff down field. And they did that last
• 34:05
  year too, especially when you have t Higgins, Mister, you know,
• 34:07
  fifty fifty ball for me is an eighty twenty ball, and you got Jamr
• 34:10
  Chase and you got boyd and they had Hayden Hurst last year who was a
• 34:14
  legitimate threat intermediate in the intermediate and downfield. But Joe Burrow just took what
• 34:20
  defenses gave him last year and so that wasn't a great matchup, which we
• 34:23
  saw in the playoffs. You just want to sit back and dare somebody to
• 34:28
  be a fishing Joe Burrow will carve you up by just dinking and duncan six
• 34:30
  to eight yards a clip. And then if you're also coming up and missing
• 34:32
  tackles, then you're hurting yourself even more if you're just gonna play with no
• 34:37
  cover zones underneath, and then you're gonna miss tackles when you try and rally
• 34:39
  and tackle, you're making life so easy for the defense. And then if
• 34:44
  we're talking Patrick Mahomes or we're talking Justin Herbert quarterbacks who have the ability to
• 34:49
  beat you with quick game and will dink and dunk you, but then have
• 34:51
  the ability to also gouge you with explosives at the same time, Like you
• 34:55
  have to be able to kind of fight fire with fire and dictate to them
• 35:00
  to some degree in some manner, in some way. I think you'll see
• 35:02
  more of that this year. You can't just can't just take your foot off
• 35:06
  the gas and dare teams to beat you, because claude to your point.
• 35:09
  When you play those top tier offenses daring them to beat you efficiently, they'll
• 35:15
  kind of welcome that, especially if they're anticipating it, especially if their coaching
• 35:20
  staff knows, oh, this is who the Bills defense is. Cool,
• 35:22
  Like, let's just take what they give us and you know, not let
• 35:25
  them get us into bad spots. And then if you're pairing it with running
• 35:29
  and running the ball on early down to stay ahead of the change, you're
• 35:31
  limiting your predictability and not playing into the Bills defenses. Hands very fair,
• 35:37
  very fair, very fair. Sarah Christine joining the chat, she says,
• 35:42
  here's all my mafia peeps up, y'all high end NYE. Sarah, welcome
• 35:44
  to the show. Thank you for joining. So that's that first piece there,
• 35:46
  the identity and philosophy of the twenty twenty three Bills defense. I think
• 35:51
  there's gonna be much more aggressiveness, much more blitzing, simulated pressures, more
• 35:54
  of an attack minded standpoint safety blitzes, varied front's, disguised front, more
• 36:00
  versatility, more multiplicity. As a whole part of that is could come here
• 36:07
  from Sarah. She says, lou and a Rumo Bengals defensive coordinator is really,
• 36:12
  really, really good at adjustments. He absolutely is. He He's one
• 36:15
  of those guys who you can tell a lot about an offense by the game
• 36:22
  plan that he scripts against that offense, because he's going to try and take
• 36:27
  away your best thing if your best thing is you know, throwing lefty haymakers.
• 36:30
  He's going to take away that lefty haymaker and try and like, scheme
• 36:32
  you up against that. And man, he had a great game plan against
• 36:37
  the Bills, much like he's had great game plans he's passed several years in
• 36:40
  big games. Yeah, he schemed the Bills up. He attacked their protection
• 36:44
  rules, he attacked their route distributions. It was a really well game planned
• 36:49
  game from sweet Loop in that divisional round for the Bengals against the Bills.
• 36:53
  And again, he's just a quality dude at this point. Good for the
• 36:58
  Bengals that they got him back and did not accept a head coaching Chop Andrews
• 37:01
  has smashed that like button. Yes yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 37:04
  please and thank you. If you folks are here and enjoying this content,
• 37:06
  please please, please and thank you. Drop a like on this video goes
• 37:08
  a sincerely long wage or to helping myself in the entire team to track and
• 37:12
  trend in front of more eyes and years. I say it every week.
• 37:14
  I know it's corny. I know that it's corny that I say. I
• 37:16
  know that it's corny, but it really helps and I appreciate your folks.
• 37:21
  I appreciate you, folks. Now let's move on to our next topic here.
• 37:28
  This one has been a huge discussion piece on this show, and I
• 37:31
  think amongst the Bills community since Tremaine Evans left for Chicago and you know cash
• 37:37
  in that bag, you know, mapping out the mic linebacker spot. This
• 37:39
  is something we've talked about on the show, and this is something that I
• 37:43
  already had as a topic going into tonight's episode. And then we got some
• 37:46
  really fun nuggets of information from Bill's linebacker coach Bobby Babbage today at OTAs for
• 37:52
  his press conferences. So, so the first thing he said is what they
• 37:57
  like to have ideally, is they like the play caller or the green dot
• 38:01
  name because your helmet has a little greensticker on the back to indicate that you
• 38:05
  have the mic and the speaker inside your helmet there. Ideally, their green
• 38:09
  dot player is their mic linebacker. So I'm just gonna read you several nuggets
• 38:14
  and pieces of information from Bobby Babish today. So the first thing he said
• 38:16
  was the green dot ideally is their mic linebacker. Ideally, in any system,
• 38:22
  you have a system where you don't have to do a lot of substituting.
• 38:27
  Bobby Babbage also mentioned how important repetition is towards building confidence in what you're
• 38:31
  doing, especially game repetitions, because you can't mimic game reps. You mentioned
• 38:37
  how having versatility allows you to not be pigeonholed. Ideally you have versatile players
• 38:43
  at every position. These were all a string of comments that he brought up
• 38:47
  in relation to a question asked of him today in terms of how they would
• 38:53
  divvy up that mic linebacker spot and did they want it to be one person
• 38:58
  or would they be open to the idea of it being a shared role,
• 39:02
  i e. Kind of like a platoon scenario. And so he answered again
• 39:07
  by saying, ideally, in any system, you have a system where you
• 39:10
  don't have to do a lot of substituting. He mentioned how important repetition is,
• 39:15
  especially game repetition. He mentioned how having versatility allows you to not be
• 39:20
  pigeonholed because ideally and ideally you have versatile players at every position. I wanted
• 39:23
  to bring this up because the notion of a platoon at the mic linebacker spot
• 39:29
  has been floated for this team this year in twenty twenty three, and I'm
• 39:32
  not completely against it. As a possibility, even though I really don't prefer
• 39:37
  it at all. But Babbage speaking here on it, I thought was very
• 39:40
  interesting because he kind of shot down the idea or notion of a platoon in
• 39:46
  his or the Bills's ideal world, and he also gave us some potential foreshadowing
• 39:52
  to how they may feel about their linebackers. So again, in an ideal
• 39:55
  world, if they have it their way, they don't want a platoon.
• 40:00
  They want versatility baked into one position. So again, think of what they've
• 40:05
  been in these past several years. Matt Milano Tremaine Edmonds two linebackers that ideally,
• 40:08
  if they're not injured, do not leave the field. They're able to
• 40:13
  play on first down, They're able to play on second down, they can
• 40:15
  play on third down. They play against run heavy teams, they play against
• 40:17
  past heavy teams. They can operate in any coverage. They can play man,
• 40:21
  they can play zone, they can play match, they can blitz,
• 40:22
  they can do whatever you need them to do. Right boom, that's what
• 40:28
  they want. They don't want to platoon. So if they do platoon this
• 40:31
  year, think about this piece. Right. If they do end up platooning
• 40:35
  this year, that means they're doing it because they don't feel they have a
• 40:39
  guy who can occupy that mic linebacker role by himself like Tremaine Edmonds did,
• 40:45
  or like Matt Milano does that that will spot. So we've talked about it,
• 40:51
  We've talked about the idea of okay, who fits into that mic linebacker
• 40:54
  spot. Oh, they drafted Dorian Williams, what does it mean? So
• 40:58
  on and so forth, So one to take it to that base level,
• 41:00
  they don't want it to be a platoon in an ideal world. They want
• 41:04
  it to be one guy. Now who that one guy is potentially we're going
• 41:07
  to talk about here in a little bit, but let's get that set as
• 41:12
  the baseline right now. Ideally, they don't want a platoon. They don't
• 41:15
  want to have a guy who and I'm just making this up. They don't
• 41:19
  want to have a J. Klein on first and second down and Terrel Bernard
• 41:22
  on third downs. They don't want a J. Clein on first and second
• 41:25
  and then Donny Williams on third. They wanted to be one guy. Now
• 41:30
  this also, I don't want people to hear this and think that this means
• 41:34
  there won't be some sub packages, right I've talked a bunch about Taylor Rap
• 41:38
  on this show and what his role may be in twenty twenty three. I
• 41:43
  do think he will have a role. I don't know how much. I
• 41:45
  don't know what the snapshare will be. I do think he will see reps
• 41:49
  on third down, whether it's as a big nickel, whether it's as a
• 41:52
  dime linebacker, or whether it's just a straight up, like three safety package.
• 41:55
  I do think Taylor Rap will see reps on this field. I do
• 41:58
  not think he was purely signed just to be a backup, third string or
• 42:05
  fourth string safety for this team. Maybe you get a little sprinkling of,
• 42:07
  you know, they kind of had a handshake deal potentially of oh, hey,
• 42:13
  you know, you come in this year and we'll see what happens with
• 42:14
  MIKEA. Next year, we'll bring in you're the starter. I don't know.
• 42:16
  I don't know how far fetched that is realistic. I just don't think
• 42:20
  he was brought in just to be a death guy this year. I do
• 42:22
  think he will see some reps. But I've talked about him a bunch as
• 42:25
  being a dime linebacker. Maybe that role is reduced if they find somebody who
• 42:30
  they want to be that guy because he has that versatility baked into him.
• 42:35
  Whoever they find, whoever they tab, whichever one of the linebackers on this
• 42:37
  roster. But again, to put it all in there, they do not
• 42:40
  want a platoon. They want to have one starter who has versatility baked into
• 42:45
  his game, baked into his skill set so they're not pigeonholed, so they
• 42:51
  can get to everything and anything. So they can have one guy getting all
• 42:54
  the reps, who can see all the different looks, get comfortable in all
• 42:58
  the coverages against all the from personnel groupings, and execute all the assignments that
• 43:02
  he has to execute against the offense in a variety of ways. That's what
• 43:07
  they want. So if they do platoon, that means they feel they don't
• 43:12
  have a guy who is able to occupy that role in a similar way that
• 43:16
  Tremaine Emands did or that Matt Milano does. Milano and Evans are the blueprint
• 43:20
  for what the Bills want in their linebackers. Two guys versatile in their own
• 43:23
  ways, they don't leave the field. That's what they want. So if
• 43:27
  they're platooning, it doesn't matter what the platoon is. If Bernard wins the
• 43:30
  job, and he comes out on third down. For Taylor Rap, that
• 43:34
  means they feel that they don't have a linebacker who's good enough on third down.
• 43:37
  They just feel they have one for first and second. Or if you
• 43:39
  have a guy again who you put in on first and second, it's one
• 43:43
  linebacker and you subhi out for another linebacker on third, that means either way,
• 43:46
  they're not holistically confident in the third down linebacker on first and second,
• 43:51
  and they're not holistically confident in the first and second down linebacker on third down.
• 43:55
  So put that in there. Ideally, they don't want to platoon.
• 43:58
  So if they do platoon, that means they don't have holistic faith in whatever
• 44:02
  linebacker they're going to use to occupy that mic spot. Now, what does
• 44:07
  that mean for the mic linebacker spot in terms of who is going to potentially
• 44:10
  start this competition? I legitimately, legitimately think is completely wide open. However,
• 44:17
  if I had to tab someone right now to be the starter, and
• 44:21
  it's tough right for me right now? Based on what Bobby Babbage said this
• 44:27
  year, for what they want the mic linebacker to be, they want the
• 44:30
  mic linebacker to be that green doop player, someone who is able to get
• 44:35
  the defense a line, who's able to relay the checks, who's able to
• 44:38
  get the front set, who's able to get the coverage set, who can
• 44:42
  be that communicator and that blender of the front line and the back end.
• 44:47
  From a mental standpoint and from a physical standpoint, based on how things are
• 44:52
  right now, I think Terrell Bernard is the best combination of being able to
• 44:57
  do a little bit of everything physically and oh, I say super chat.
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  Oh, thank you very much, morning mine, coming in. Appreciate you.
• 45:05
  You're here out pretty much every week. I appreciate your presence, and
• 45:07
  thank you very much for the super chat. I appreciate that as well.
• 45:09
  And then the really kind words she says, thanks so much for all your
• 45:12
  wisdom, Anthony. Hit that like button chat, gang, Oh, I
• 45:15
  do like that, appreciate the super chat, appreciate you being here, and
• 45:17
  yes, please and thank you. Hit that like button folks, it goes
• 45:21
  a long way. Please please, please, please, and thank you thank
• 45:24
  you very much, morning mine. I appreciate you so again. Bobby Babbage
• 45:29
  talked about wanting that middle linebacker would be the green dot player, so you
• 45:31
  got to have it. Between the years, Leslie Fraser talked about Terrell Bernard
• 45:35
  last year and talked about him how he's quote one of those guys who can
• 45:38
  take the classroom to the grass, the guy who you can draw things up
• 45:42
  on the whiteboard for. He sees it, he gets it, he understands
• 45:45
  it. I think Terrell Bernard right now is and I'm not saying he's overall
• 45:52
  the best guy, but I think he's the best combination of being able to
• 45:57
  do a little bit of everything physically and also between the ears. He comes
• 46:01
  from a defense at Baylor where he was asked to function with pro style responsibilities
• 46:06
  as far as coverage and recognition, and a lot of that translates well to
• 46:10
  modern NFL defenses and especially the Buffalo Bill's defense. He got Dave Randa's stamp
• 46:15
  of approval, the head coach at Baylor, former defensive coordinator at LSU and
• 46:19
  Wisconsin. Sean McDermott is a big fan of Randa's. Randa gave him gave
• 46:22
  Bernard that stamp of approval, which goes a long way. Now we know
• 46:28
  Bernard is not the biggest. He's a smaller guy. He's built more like
• 46:30
  a big safety than he is a linebacker. He's not the biggest. He's
• 46:34
  not the strongest, he's not the fastest. He does have limitations, but
• 46:37
  he has a more well rounded game than any of the other linebackers on the
• 46:43
  Bill's roster. Terrell Dodson is mah in coverage at best. Aj Klein is
• 46:49
  long in the tooth in coverage. We know how good he is on first
• 46:52
  and second down. We know how good aj Klein is coming forward fitting the
• 46:54
  run, playing in the box, and going sideline to sideline within the box.
• 46:59
  But he's just not that coverage guy anymore. Bayle Inspector or Babylon Spectors
• 47:04
  he's known on the show. We don't really know. The sample size is
• 47:06
  too small. We saw some preseason reps from him, so again we don't
• 47:10
  really know positively or negatively. But just in seeing what we saw with Spector
• 47:15
  last year in the preseason, Terrell Bernard is more advanced than him in coverage
• 47:19
  based on what we saw on those limited reps last year. And then that
• 47:23
  takes us to Dorian Williams, who, so I was a bit out of
• 47:29
  the loop last week, but Dorny and Williams, I saw several pieces in
• 47:35
  OTAs last week and then another piece today in OTAs. There's been several videos
• 47:39
  out of Dorny wos and again, I don't think this is a huge negative.
• 47:42
  I want to say that before anybody takes this and runs with it to
• 47:45
  any X level degree or jump jumps down my throat because they love Doriyan Williams.
• 47:52
  What I'm about to say I think should be expected for him. But
• 47:55
  last week we saw a video of him having to be coached up in drills
• 48:00
  for coverage. Today we saw him being coached up in a tack lane drill
• 48:05
  because he wasn't bringing his hips with him when he was coming forward. He
• 48:10
  is at a spot in his game. And again I've talked about it.
• 48:15
  I talked about it the night of the draft, post draft, talked about
• 48:20
  it on Twitter. Dorny Williams has fun tools and fun traits. He's got
• 48:23
  the arm length, he's got burst, he's got speed, he's got explosion
• 48:27
  like. He's got a lot of pieces that you like and it's fun.
• 48:30
  I get white people like him and gravitate towards him, But he has a
• 48:35
  long way to go from a refinement standpoint mentally and from a technique standpoint.
• 48:40
  He comes from a defense Brandon being talked about it, I tweeted this,
• 48:44
  I mentioned it on the show. He comes from a more he comes from
• 48:47
  a simpler defense in general at two lane, but especially in comparison to what's
• 48:52
  asked of him in this Buffalo Bill's defense. A lot of coverages are just
• 48:55
  spot drop coverages, which is, you know, you dropped your hook,
• 48:59
  girls, you dropped a landmark, you turn and you're basically covering grass.
• 49:01
  Here with the Bills, he's going to be asked to do a lot more
• 49:05
  match coverage. He's going to ask to read things on the fly and adjust
• 49:08
  based on the route distribution and based on what his peers are doing. Last
• 49:13
  week, there was a clip they were in like a three linebacker set or
• 49:15
  maybe a big Nicol set. It was him, Sir ron Neil on his
• 49:17
  left and I forget who's on his right, but he drops and I believe
• 49:22
  they were running crossers in front of him, and Sirron Neil nailed down Dorny
• 49:27
  Williams kept dropping and you know if they stopped the drill, and you could
• 49:30
  hear in the background if you really listen close to turn the volume up,
• 49:32
  he was being coached up that you know when you see that crosser. You
• 49:36
  got to come up. You have to take him. Today we saw just
• 49:38
  the basic fundamental drill. You attack the dummy, attacked the bag, pop
• 49:44
  it in, lift come through, hit the donut, bring your hips and
• 49:47
  lift the donut up to the sky. He had two reps and that I
• 49:51
  were on video, and they were both ugly. He wasn't bringing his hips
• 49:52
  through again. Not the end of the world, not terrible, but right
• 49:57
  now, Dorny Williams, I know people want him to be a thing,
• 50:00
  and some people really like him, or some people see the dreadlocks and think,
• 50:04
  oh man, he's another tremade Evans, this is going to be awesome.
• 50:07
  I think he's far away right now from contributing. I think he's a
• 50:10
  developmental Mike or a developmental will I don't. I don't think his contributions in
• 50:15
  twenty twenty three, as of right now, are going to be anything other
• 50:17
  than special teams based. Now. This doesn't mean that he was not a
• 50:22
  tremendously quick study. It doesn't mean that he won't make a mistake once,
• 50:27
  or see something once and immediately correct it and put the proper fixes into practical
• 50:31
  application on the next rep. Who knows, right, maybe he'll come into
• 50:37
  camp and he crushes it. Maybe in preseason he crushes it. Maybe the
• 50:39
  mistakes that we're seeing in OTA's right now he'll never make again for the entire
• 50:45
  offseason. Maybe right, But he's very raw. He comes from a defense
• 50:51
  that is not does not prepare you well for an immediate translation to the NFL
• 50:59
  game in your rookie year. Now, this does not mean he won't be
• 51:04
  good in twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five, or they didn't even contribute
• 51:07
  in some way in twenty twenty three, especially if the roles of that linebacker
• 51:10
  spot changes a little bit. But he's being coached a lot so far in
• 51:16
  OTAs on fundamental pieces, both from a tackling standpoint, from a coverage standpoint.
• 51:22
  And these are just two videos. Now you can make the case that,
• 51:24
  you know, maybe those are the only two mistakes he made, and
• 51:27
  every other rep he's absolutely crushing it. Perhaps and maybe or he could also
• 51:30
  play to the other side and say, maybe he's making a ton of other
• 51:34
  mistakes early on and he's having to be coached up even further. I don't
• 51:37
  think any of these are bad. Again, I thought he was raw,
• 51:40
  he's toolsy, he's traitsy, He's got some fun pieces to like. He
• 51:44
  needs to be polished, he needs refinement these mistakes, and having to be
• 51:49
  coached up early on from a fundamental standpoint in coverage or even fundamentals with his
• 51:53
  tackling. For me, none of that should be expected, and for those
• 51:55
  of you who watch this show, I hope none of that is expected or
• 52:00
  is unexpected for you as well. I talked about how he goes into tackles
• 52:04
  sometimes and all of his coverage pieces from a spot drop standpoint, and what
• 52:07
  he was going to need to get coached up at the NFL level and get
• 52:10
  better. So I hope none of this surprises anyone. But I say all
• 52:15
  that to put it in here to this mapping out the mic linebacker spot piece.
• 52:20
  With those quotes from Bobby Babbitte earlier that I mentioned, combined with what
• 52:23
  they have on this roster, I think Terrell Bernard is the guy who is
• 52:30
  kind of like the lesser of all evils. With everything combined, I don't
• 52:34
  think there's any one guy with this, but I mean, with how wide
• 52:37
  open this competition is, it speaks to how there is no one guy who
• 52:39
  is the right fit for this spot. You can make a pros and cons
• 52:44
  list for literally every linebacker on the Bills to step into that MIC spot.
• 52:49
  Dodson, Specter, Klein, Bernard, Donny Williams, Tyler, Medeckevich.
• 52:54
  I forgot to mention him in case somebody's out there saying I think Medeckevich could
• 52:59
  be the guy who knows maybe could be. But the fact that even that
• 53:01
  that could even be a possibility, a core special teamer for his entire career
• 53:05
  could maybe see some reps, I don't think that's in the room of possibility.
• 53:07
  But if somebody thought that, I wouldn't necessarily fault you. But that
• 53:13
  is all representative of what the Bills have or don't have in terms of their
• 53:17
  MIC linebacker candidates. So it literally could be anyone. And if you're looking
• 53:22
  at it right now, again, I think Terrell Bernard is the lesser of
• 53:24
  all evils when you put everything together, I think it's either him or AJ
• 53:30
  Klein that I think is going to be the best. From the shoulders up
• 53:32
  what they got going on between the years in terms of the checks, adjustments,
• 53:37
  making calls, relaying the call making on the fly, adjustments, getting
• 53:40
  the front set, getting the back end coverage set being able to work all
• 53:44
  that together. It's either going to be Bernard or Client who's best from the
• 53:46
  shoulders up in that perspective, right, But then Klein he doesn't have that
• 53:52
  coverage ability on third down, And we talked about it earlier what Bobby Babbage
• 53:55
  wants. Ideally they have that mic linebacker who's a versatile guy. They do
• 54:00
  not want to platoon. So if you don't want a platoon, that doesn't
• 54:04
  really speak well for aj Clin because he's not going to be able to really
• 54:07
  stay on the field on passing downs. And then to Rol Bernard, if
• 54:10
  he's on the field on early downs, yeah, you're going to take a
• 54:13
  hit against the run then if you had aj Clein in there, but the
• 54:17
  difference between him and Kline against the run is less than it is Klein versus
• 54:23
  him in coverage. And then you have Dodson, who I think showed his
• 54:28
  liability and coverage last year a couple of the games that he filled in when
• 54:31
  he saw Reps or Tremaine Edmonds, and again we've seen spector for some Reps
• 54:36
  in preseason, but I don't think he's the coverage linebacker that Bernard is who
• 54:39
  knows. Maybe he takes a huge jump this offseason versus what he was last
• 54:44
  year. But I think right now we're mapping out the mic linebacker spot.
• 54:46
  I think to Rol Bernard is the guy. I think for me between Bernard
• 54:51
  and Klein, if if I could have my way, but then Clin makes
• 54:53
  you have the platoon, And then if that's the platoon, is it Taylor
• 54:59
  Rapp coming in for a dime linebacker spot? And what's happened on third down?
• 55:02
  You open up, You open up yourself to vulnerabilities from a dictation standpoint
• 55:07
  and a predictability standpoint. And oh could come here from Dabs. I'm gonna
• 55:12
  bring up some comments in a minute, but I saw this one from Dabs
• 55:14
  who says Klein has the mic down from the head up. Unfortunately, unfortunately,
• 55:17
  he doesn't have the youth or athleticism. I think it's very well said.
• 55:21
  He's got it from the head up. He's got the physicality. I
• 55:23
  want him in there on first and second down, like playing against the run.
• 55:27
  He just doesn't have it from a coverage standpoint. I don't think he
• 55:30
  should be asked to have to do that from a coverage standpoint with where he
• 55:35
  is right now. But this MIC linebacker spot is wide open, wide open,
• 55:38
  wide open. But I think Bernard right now is the best combination in
• 55:45
  terms of being able to do a little bit of everything. I don't think
• 55:47
  he has any area where he's like an eight out of ten or a nine
• 55:52
  out of ten. But he doesn't really have anything where he's like below a
• 55:55
  five. Like everything for him is like a six to a seven. But
• 56:00
  the other guys at his spot have things where they might be an eight or
• 56:02
  a nine, and then they've got others where they're like a two or three
• 56:05
  or four, And so when you average it all together, I think overall,
• 56:09
  he's got the best shot right now based on how things are going,
• 56:12
  especially when you pair them with Milano. Now, that's gonna open yourself up
• 56:15
  for a whole bunch of other schematic issues, which we will talk about this
• 56:19
  offseason, but right now, if you're mapping out what this roster looks like
• 56:23
  at the linebacker spot, paired with those comments from Bobby Babbage today that I
• 56:28
  mentioned earlier, again, ideally in any system, you have a system where
• 56:31
  you don't have to do a lot of substituting. The green dot is there,
• 56:35
  Mic linebacker in an ideal world. Ideally, again, repetition is very
• 56:39
  important towards building confidence and what you're doing, especially game reps. That speaks
• 56:44
  to not doing a lot of substituting. Having versatility allowed you to not be
• 56:47
  pigeonholed. Ideally you have versatile players at every position, especially the linebacker spot.
• 56:52
  I think all of it right now points towards Terrel Bernard looking potentially like
• 56:58
  a guy right now to lock down that linebacker spot. But we will see
• 57:00
  as we go forward. I see the chat blowing up. Let's grab some
• 57:07
  comments here, Well, let's going to back this one from Troy. Troy
• 57:09
  says, what's the downside of an aggressive defense? The downside is you open
• 57:14
  yourself up to chunk plays and big place If you are bringing a blitz and
• 57:21
  the offense picks it up, they block it up, or the quarterback ideas
• 57:24
  it and he knows where the hot read is, he has an easy completion.
• 57:28
  Or if you get beat in a bad way all of a sudden,
• 57:30
  you potentially give up an explosive play, whether it's in the middle of the
• 57:32
  field for a catch and run or if it's down the field like The more
• 57:36
  aggressive you are the more you open yourself up for explosive plays against you,
• 57:40
  it's that risk, Rewarpiece. If you're more aggressive, you have a higher
• 57:45
  chance in theory of getting creating a negative play, so a sack or a
• 57:50
  turnal or an incompletion or a tackle for loss. But you also open yourself
• 57:53
  up to the idea of giving up explosive plays. Yourself a bigger negative place
• 57:59
  for you. If you play safer, you really don't get beat with explosives,
• 58:01
  but then you might not generate as many negative plays, and you might
• 58:05
  not have as much versatility and dictation to the offense. That's kind of in
• 58:09
  theory what it would be. What it would be. Oh, I like
• 58:14
  Aiden saying what's up and using the animoji. I like it, Oh Andrew
• 58:16
  says CB two Benford or Elam. Well, we're gonna talk about that in
• 58:22
  this episode in a minute. I like Elam. I like Christian Benford a
• 58:28
  lot. I would be fine with them platooning as of right now, I
• 58:31
  would be fine with a platoon. I like them both. Oh Andrew,
• 58:38
  plant a flag, Andrew says Dorian Williams. Is my bet. He's got
• 58:43
  the vision to read coverage and fit against the under routes, and I feel
• 58:45
  like he can compete against guys like Kelsey. I respect your vision for Doriny
• 58:52
  and Williams, I disagree. I don't think he's got the vision to read
• 58:53
  the coverage. I think he's too inexperienced with matching, with playing match coverage.
• 59:00
  Now. He has the athleticism, and I have shown some reps where
• 59:01
  he's carrying tight ends and slot receivers vertically. I just think he's too inexperience
• 59:06
  in that world to outright win the starting job unless something drastic happens, like
• 59:12
  other guys have to fall apart or he has to set the friggin world on
• 59:15
  fire come camp. I don't think he's there from a from an ice perspective,
• 59:21
  in terms of reading things, reading the route distribution, understanding his assignment,
• 59:25
  putting it all together. I think the game might be a little fast
• 59:28
  for him right now, which again should be expected given where he's coming from,
• 59:34
  given the competition he played against. But I don't think he's there right
• 59:37
  now from a coverage standpoint. Maybe from a man standpoint, he might from
• 59:40
  an athleticism standpoint, might be able to compete against guys like Travis Kelsey,
• 59:45
  but I think Kelsey might be able to route him up just because of how
• 59:49
  experienced he is, although he is a good man mirror guy against tight ends
• 59:52
  and running backs. But that's also a huge task. Like asking a rookie,
• 59:57
  like a rookie linebacker from Tulane, a rookie third round linebacker from two
• 1:00:00
  lane in a linebacker class that was not a good linebacker class. Asking that
• 1:00:07
  guy to compete against Travis Kelsey for me is a big ask, but fair
• 1:00:13
  fair, oh Sarah like story in two, I get it, I get
• 1:00:15
  it, I understand, i'd understand. I understand, oh r J says,
• 1:00:21
  does using more personnel variations make it more difficult on the opposing offense?
• 1:00:25
  Bill Belichick made a career using tons of personnel packages on defense. If you're
• 1:00:30
  the key is having versatility in your personnel packages. If you're using a variety
• 1:00:36
  of personnel packages, but they're like predictable, So say like you know,
• 1:00:38
  you have a three linebacker package, but then you've got like a dime linebacker
• 1:00:44
  or a dime package where you've got your six dybs on the field. If
• 1:00:47
  your sixtybs are all like tiny and they all have like siloed skill sets,
• 1:00:52
  it's kind of easy to predict what they're going to do. The same thing
• 1:00:54
  if you have like three linebackers and they're all big, bulky and heavy,
• 1:00:58
  like okay, like we're just gonna put them into situations where they have to
• 1:01:01
  play coverage. We're gonna take advantage of their skill set that doesn't work.
• 1:01:05
  The key is what Belichick has had a ton too. I mean, granted,
• 1:01:07
  he's a tremendous game planner from a situational perspective, red zone, third
• 1:01:13
  downs, second half defense, all that kind of stuff, but his personnel
• 1:01:17
  packages have versatility even with what you've seen these past years with New England,
• 1:01:23
  Like you've got Kyle Dugger, and you've got Devin mccordy, and you had
• 1:01:28
  Jalen Mills, and you had Marcus Jones, the rookie from Houston, and
• 1:01:31
  you've got the Joneses and all these guys who like, well, they could
• 1:01:35
  play outside, they can play against the tight end, they could bliss from
• 1:01:37
  the slot, they could drop as a split field safety, they could play
• 1:01:39
  in the hook curls, they could buzz down. Like there's all these things.
• 1:01:43
  You don't know who's going to be what the key is just having a
• 1:01:46
  lot of personnel variations isn't necessarily the thing. You have to have versatility within
• 1:01:52
  that personnel, right, And if you're rolling out different packages and the offense
• 1:01:55
  still doesn't know who's gonna play what, Kyle Kyle Dugger is a great example,
• 1:02:00
  Right, Kyle Dugger's on the field. You don't know if he's going
• 1:02:04
  to be a single high safety, if he's gonna be a split field safety,
• 1:02:07
  if he's gonna play in the box as a linebacker, if he's gonna
• 1:02:09
  play in the hook curls, if he's gonna be a man, if he's
• 1:02:12
  gonna be in zone, if he's gonna blitz like, you don't know.
• 1:02:15
  And Belichick has usually had a lot of those guys who can wear those hats
• 1:02:19
  to the point where you don't know who's doing what and who's coming from where.
• 1:02:22
  I appreciate you Mark, Mark says, loved the fit pro Haska matching
• 1:02:27
  the tree. That's fire, Bro. I didn't even plan it. I
• 1:02:29
  can't even take credit. I appreciate you recognizing it. It's the fit matches
• 1:02:32
  the tree, but I didn't plan it, so I can't take full credit.
• 1:02:36
  But I appreciate you appreciating me. Thank you very much, sarahs.
• 1:02:42
  I'm interested to see interested to see what our defense will look like this year.
• 1:02:45
  Still think something is weird going on with Frasier quote unquote taking a year
• 1:02:47
  off. What's up with that? Yeah, it is a bit weird.
• 1:02:52
  I feel like that's a whole topic in and of itself. But I'm very
• 1:02:53
  interested to see what this UH defense can be this year or Sean McDermott.
• 1:03:00
  Good comment here from Andrew saying, in my opinion, using multiple personnel hurts
• 1:03:04
  you guys are busy running off and on the field and not spending that time
• 1:03:07
  breaking down the offense. That's a huge piece, right, And then offenses
• 1:03:10
  also if they know you want to use certain personnel, like if they know,
• 1:03:16
  okay, Aja Cliners are starting mic linebacker, but we know the Bills
• 1:03:21
  don't want him encourage you can take advantage of that with personnel groupings of your
• 1:03:25
  own to force him to either play coverage or get him off the field to
• 1:03:32
  bring on predictable personnel packages and then attack that personnel package in a way that
• 1:03:38
  they don't want to be attacked. Like, so say you know you're using
• 1:03:42
  a more eleven personnel or more ten personnel because you want to take aj Cline
• 1:03:45
  off the field because you know they we're placing with Taylor rap. But then
• 1:03:49
  you run the ball out a shotgun and take advantage of a light box and
• 1:03:52
  a dime linebacker like little pieces like that. It makes you vulnerable to versatility
• 1:03:57
  and dictation by the offense. But that's fair, that's fair. What else
• 1:04:02
  do we got? What else? We got a lot of COMMISSI back at
• 1:04:12
  fort all right, I think we're gonna move on. Oh doab said?
• 1:04:19
  Klein played a lot of Mike in twenty twenty when he bawled out against the
• 1:04:21
  Seahawks, But he blitzed a lot like he was used in a different like
• 1:04:25
  world. Could be like a situation they dive into. But again, this
• 1:04:30
  is three years later. He has even less athleticism that he had before.
• 1:04:33
  We'll see though, um, but yeah, he blits a ton in that.
• 1:04:36
  I think it was what like a three or four game stretchy. He
• 1:04:39
  had like six or seven sacks. It was wild. It was pretty wild.
• 1:04:45
  What else do we god, Sarah says, are we sure they won't
• 1:04:49
  split time in the position? No, I'm not sure. I'm just going
• 1:04:51
  off of what Babbage said. What they've done traditionally. Um because part of
• 1:04:56
  it too. Again, they could split time. They want to not platoon.
• 1:05:01
  They wanted to be one guy, but if they don't have that one
• 1:05:04
  guy, then they have to platoon. That's part of the interesting piece,
• 1:05:09
  right who Jason, Jason's awesome, Jason says, sick Intercontinental title in the
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  the old school one, the mister perfect intercontinental title. Well done,
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  well done. Oh I think I see a super chat. Oh, thank
• 1:05:25
  you so much, Deborah, thank you for being here, and thank you
• 1:05:28
  for the super chat and the really kind of words. Devor says, a
• 1:05:30
  great show, very knowledgeable, go bills from Texas bills, mafias everywhere.
• 1:05:33
  I appreciate you, Debra, thank you so much, thank you very much,
• 1:05:40
  thank you very much. Good point from T. Dobbs saying it took
• 1:05:43
  Edmonds until his third year to look comfortable in the mike position. In my
• 1:05:45
  humble opinion, it's not easy to call the defense unless you're a brainiac or
• 1:05:49
  a natural. And I think that's where Bernard comes in. He's a very
• 1:05:55
  smart player. He's a very cerebral player. Again, Leslie Fraser said it
• 1:05:59
  last year. He's that guy who he's one of those guys who can take
• 1:06:01
  the classroom to the grass. He was talked about as a guy who picked
• 1:06:05
  things up very quickly. He has that comfortability factor and coming from a similar
• 1:06:10
  defense at Baitler, I think he has a lot of it between the ears
• 1:06:15
  that one. I don't think Doran Williams has. Dodson probably has some because
• 1:06:18
  of the familiarity with the system, with how long he's been with the team.
• 1:06:20
  Klein has it spector probably less so. But again Bernard I think has
• 1:06:27
  it, and then has enough of the other physical pieces to just be overall
• 1:06:33
  adequate enough or above average enough at everything to be the holistic picture. But
• 1:06:36
  again it still could be anyone excellent point here. There's so much nuance to
• 1:06:43
  be considered when looking at personnel. Absolutely absolutely Andrew comes through and says,
• 1:06:47
  smash that leg. Yes, please, multiple people are saying it. If
• 1:06:50
  you haven't smashed the leg, already disappointed in you? Please, please,
• 1:06:55
  please, thank you, smash the leg. Smash that. Like Dobbs says,
• 1:06:59
  do you think we'll see more dying defenses with McDermott, just to change
• 1:07:00
  things up from the same old, same Well, I do think. Yeah,
• 1:07:03
  I think you'll see more Taylor Rap. I think you will see a
• 1:07:09
  linebacker replaced with Taylor Rap. I don't know how much, but yeah,
• 1:07:13
  so I think you'll see four down linemen, Matt Milano and then Taylor Rap,
• 1:07:17
  Tarn Johnson, Trey White, Mica Hide, Jordan Poyer, and then
• 1:07:20
  whoever CB two is. But that's a piece. That's a piece. That's
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  apps or platforms. One other piece I want to mention, it's kind of
• 1:08:15
  a holistic, bigger topic, but I just decided to label at Tredavious White
• 1:08:18
  and Boonton Miller. I came across this quote from Stefania Bell ESPN fantasy football
• 1:08:26
  writer slash doctor slash medical person somewhat knows all about it. If you play
• 1:08:31
  fantasy football, you know who Stefania Bell is. She had a quote last
• 1:08:33
  week that I pulled up here, and she said, quote, the majority
• 1:08:39
  of athletes who have undergone ACL reconstruction don't return to elite performance level until their
• 1:08:45
  second season back in their sport. A return to play does not equal a
• 1:08:50
  return to performance. I wanted to bring that quote in because it alludes to
• 1:08:56
  something I've talked about all off season, both this year and last year.
• 1:09:00
  Because there have been significant ACL injuries of relevance to the Bills both last year
• 1:09:05
  and this year. So Stefani's comment. There again, the majority of athletes
• 1:09:10
  who have underround ACL reconstruction don't return to a lad performance level until their second
• 1:09:14
  season back in their sport. Return to play does not equal return to performance.
• 1:09:17
  It's a bit of a yin and yang for the Bills in twenty twenty
• 1:09:20
  three. It's good news for tradevious White, potentially worrisome and not so good
• 1:09:27
  news for von Miller. Let's start with Trey White, because I don't think
• 1:09:30
  this is being talked about enough, and I think it's funny even going to
• 1:09:32
  the question that was asked me earlier, like, oh, who cecbtwo Benford
• 1:09:36
  Elam? So much of the dialogue in regards to the cornerback position for the
• 1:09:42
  Bills this year has been around the corner two position. Tons of people still
• 1:09:45
  upset that Kyrie Elam didn't play more last year. Tons of people want to
• 1:09:48
  burn Dane Jackson at the stake. People talk about how good Benford did,
• 1:09:53
  but it's Benford moving to safety. Like, what is CB two going to
• 1:09:56
  be this year? Is it going to be a platoon again? Is Kye
• 1:09:59
  Elam going to get the lion share? How much is Dane Jackson going to
• 1:10:01
  get? So on and so forth. Lost in that cornerback to conversation and
• 1:10:06
  that secondary conversation, in addition to Micah High coming back from his neck injury,
• 1:10:13
  Jordan Poyer coming back in free agency, all of those pieces lost in
• 1:10:16
  the conversation in the secondary is that the Bills maybe getting back the all pro
• 1:10:23
  form of Tredavious White. Like Stefania Bell said, you know, when you
• 1:10:27
  have that ACL surgery, that ACL reconstruction, you don't really return to elite
• 1:10:30
  performance until that second season back. We've heard that before. Harrison Phillips talked
• 1:10:34
  about it a couple of years ago when he came back from his ACL injury.
• 1:10:39
  This is Tredevius White's second year removed from that ACL tear. And last
• 1:10:45
  year when you watched the tape, I talked about it on the show and
• 1:10:46
  I showed several film clips of it. Heading into the playoffs, Trey got
• 1:10:51
  better with every rep of every game last season once he came back from the
• 1:10:56
  I R. And no, he didn't look fully like his old self.
• 1:10:59
  He didn't look completely over it and completely back to one hundred percent, but
• 1:11:02
  he showed glimpses and he showed promise. And now he gets a full off
• 1:11:08
  season of work that isn't spent purely on rehab and recovery. He gets a
• 1:11:13
  full offseason to instill more confidence in that knee. From a mental standpoint,
• 1:11:17
  he gets a full offseason to build upon the confidence of returning to play in
• 1:11:24
  twenty twenty two last season on that knee. And if you get an all
• 1:11:28
  pro tradevious White stepping back onto the field, that's a legitimate game changer for
• 1:11:32
  this Buffalo Bill's defense in and of itself, just for him in a vacuum,
• 1:11:36
  but especially when you add him with Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer, you
• 1:11:42
  legitimately have three all Pro caliber players in your secondary. Not many, if
• 1:11:47
  any, teams can say that, I think we're losing sight of what a
• 1:11:53
  year two you know, second year removed from an ACL teara Tredavious White can
• 1:11:59
  be back in this defense. It's not getting talked about enough and that expectation
• 1:12:04
  for what the Bills defense can be in twenty twenty three. If you're adding
• 1:12:09
  all pro Trdavias White back into the mix, and you're pairing him with all
• 1:12:13
  pro caliber Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer and an aggressive minded, philosophical tweaking changing
• 1:12:19
  defense under the guise of Sean McDermott. A lot of fun pieces that you
• 1:12:25
  can do when you've got an all pro Corner two, interchangeable versatile safeties,
• 1:12:30
  The games you can play, the blitzes you can scheme up because you're confident
• 1:12:33
  on the back end, the man coverage that you can engage in, the
• 1:12:36
  man coverage that you compare with blitzes up front, the match coverages you can
• 1:12:41
  play, all of the games that you can do on the front and the
• 1:12:44
  back because again, what you do upfront is tied to who you are on
• 1:12:47
  the back end and what you can do on the back end. All pro
• 1:12:50
  Trdavious White isn't just a boost for the secondary. It's a boost for the
• 1:12:56
  front and for the tools that Sean McDermott has at his spools. I don't
• 1:13:00
  think it's getting talked about enough with the conversation is so skewed towards Corner two
• 1:13:04
  and still being upset that Kyrie Elam didn't play enough last year that we haven't
• 1:13:09
  really talked about the idea of you know, Trey White might be back to
• 1:13:13
  a regular Tray White and if that happens, oh, that's very, very
• 1:13:16
  very exciting for this defense. Now I talked about it. It's a bit
• 1:13:20
  of a yinna yang good and bad situation. You go to the flip side
• 1:13:23
  or swing the pendulum the other way. The Von Miller conversation ACL tear last
• 1:13:30
  year, as Stefania Bell said, and something we've talked about on this show.
• 1:13:34
  And I didn't just bring up the quote because it it supports something that
• 1:13:36
  I said, but I thought it was really on the nose and quite a
• 1:13:41
  proposed. Again, majority of athletes who have gone undergone ACL reconstruction don't return
• 1:13:47
  to elite performance level until their second season back in their sport, So Vaughan
• 1:13:53
  isn't even a full year removed yet at this point. Considering his age,
• 1:13:59
  consider his play style, and it being the second significant injury to that knee,
• 1:14:04
  I think he's a bigger question mark than it's getting talked about. I
• 1:14:08
  know there was like a workout video of him several weeks ago or a month
• 1:14:12
  ago, but I don't think that's necessarily indicative of him coming back from that
• 1:14:16
  knee or being ready for the early part of the year, especially because granted,
• 1:14:20
  lifting weights is good, but especially because there was no like you weren't
• 1:14:24
  testing that knee. Latterly it was just lifting up and down. I think
• 1:14:28
  he was just doing like like a lunge or squat and just going straight off
• 1:14:31
  that knee. So like, that's good, that's positive, Like you want
• 1:14:33
  to see him be able to work it out, but he's not really stressing
• 1:14:35
  it or testing it from a lateral stability standpoint. And again with guys not
• 1:14:42
  coming back to their elite performance until the second season back from that injury,
• 1:14:45
  and a return to play does not equal a return to performance, I don't
• 1:14:51
  know what to expect from von Miller in twenty twenty three, not even from
• 1:14:57
  a performance standpoint. I'm just talking from a snapshare and you should standpoint.
• 1:15:00
  I don't know how much he's gonna be on the field for this entire year.
• 1:15:02
  If from an entirety perspective, I still am going to continue to maintain
• 1:15:08
  I don't think he comes back until November. Is maybe middle of November,
• 1:15:11
  maybe early, but I think November is a pretty safe ballpark. And then
• 1:15:15
  once he's back, who knows how much he'll play. I think a lot
• 1:15:16
  of it will be determined by how much they need him and how good the
• 1:15:20
  other guys are going at the edge spots. But I want to tie that
• 1:15:25
  in to something we talked about earlier again the identity of the Bill's defense.
• 1:15:29
  The philosophical change is potentially you can win in the NFL in a multitude of
• 1:15:33
  ways, but two of the big buckets are you can win with talent or
• 1:15:36
  you can win with scheme. Sometimes it's just simple as my guys better than
• 1:15:42
  your guy, my guy's gonna win. My guys are better than your guys,
• 1:15:45
  we have more talent, we're gonna win. Sometimes it's the flip side.
• 1:15:48
  Sometimes it's your guys might be better than my guys, but I know
• 1:15:53
  how to use my guys better and so we're gonna win. Sometimes it's a
• 1:15:56
  combination of both. But I think with Sean McDermott has been in the past
• 1:16:01
  as a defensive coordinator, what I think he's going to be this year based
• 1:16:05
  on studying the tape from his Carolina days. Based on the quote from AJ
• 1:16:09
  Klein earlier in this episode, pairing Sean mcdermot's aggressive nature his ability to disguise
• 1:16:15
  fronts play games on the back end. You simulated pressures, use creeper prettures,
• 1:16:20
  dial up blitzes, scheme and hide pressure, and confuse protections and confuse
• 1:16:26
  quarterbacks, and confuse rules for protection for the offense, or use those rules
• 1:16:31
  against an offense, like using an offense his own protection rules against them.
• 1:16:36
  All of those things that Sean McDermott has shown in the past and that he
• 1:16:41
  can tap into. I mentioned it earlier. I think you'll see more of
• 1:16:45
  it, especially to start the year. Unless they have the ability to just
• 1:16:49
  let Greg Rousseau hunt, or a Japanessa hunt, or Shack or Boogie or
• 1:16:56
  anybody on the front right, unless they have that ability where or in an
• 1:17:00
  ideal world they can just be like, no, we're just gonna rush for
• 1:17:02
  and somebody's gonna win because we got horses up front. Unless you can do
• 1:17:06
  that, you have to be creative with how you can generate pressure. I
• 1:17:10
  think Rousseau will take another jump this year. I'm excited to see what he
• 1:17:14
  can do. He's still an elite run defender, but he got better from
• 1:17:16
  a pass rush standpoint last year. We know what Shack Lawson is as a
• 1:17:19
  pass rusher. He's not really a guy that's going to be this one on
• 1:17:24
  one man beater that can go get you a bucket. Aj and showed flashes
• 1:17:28
  last year. We'll see what he can be Boogie Basham. I want him
• 1:17:33
  to be something. I don't have faith that he will be. Sometimes I
• 1:17:38
  feel like I trade him for like a bag of balls at this point,
• 1:17:42
  and then we'll see what you get on the inside. Sometimes at Oliver is
• 1:17:45
  a game wrecker. Sometimes he disappears. To Quan Jones, his pass rush
• 1:17:47
  upside last year was a very welcome sight, a very welcomed edition. But
• 1:17:51
  he's not known as a pass rush guy. We'll see what you get from
• 1:17:54
  Poona Ford and Tim Settle. But to put all of those pieces together,
• 1:18:00
  I don't think the Bills are going to have that one on one guy who
• 1:18:02
  can get you a bucket at any point in Von Miller for the beginning part
• 1:18:06
  of the year, and even when he comes back again, to tied into
• 1:18:10
  what's to find your bell said, even when von Miller comes back in November
• 1:18:14
  or September or October, even if you go off the best timeline he's coming
• 1:18:17
  back in September, he'll be ready for a week one, which I don't
• 1:18:20
  think is the case. Even if he does, you have no idea what
• 1:18:24
  Von Miller you're getting. The assumption should not be there that well, when
• 1:18:28
  he comes back, we're golden because he was so good last year when he
• 1:18:30
  played. How do you know what he's going to look like when he comes
• 1:18:33
  back. Yes, he's had a similar knee injury before, and yes,
• 1:18:36
  he came back very strong and crushed it. He was in a much different
• 1:18:40
  spot from an age standpoint, from a physical shape and body perspective standpoint,
• 1:18:45
  not that he's non in tremendous shape now, but he was younger. Your
• 1:18:47
  body heals differently now, Your body recovers differently. Now, you're able to
• 1:18:50
  stress and work your body in different ways when you're younger than you are when
• 1:18:55
  you're older, and you have more miles on the tire, especially again,
• 1:18:59
  the first time he came back, he'd never had that injury before. Now
• 1:19:01
  he's got that same injury again to that same knee. So you add that
• 1:19:04
  on top of more miles on the tires, the age, anything and everything
• 1:19:08
  that kind of compounds all of those things together. I don't think it's anywhere
• 1:19:14
  close to a given that when von Miller comes back, whenever he comes back,
• 1:19:17
  September, October, November, December, whatever, I don't think it's
• 1:19:21
  as easy or as simple as oh, well, when he comes back,
• 1:19:25
  you got von Miller back. He crushed it last year. He comes back,
• 1:19:27
  boom, you got one of the best edges in the league again.
• 1:19:30
  Maybe he's not up to speed yet. Maybe it takes him several weeks,
• 1:19:32
  Maybe it takes him a month. Maybe he doesn't even get to that point.
• 1:19:36
  Maybe von Miller comes back and he's not edged one von Miller, maybe
• 1:19:43
  he's edge two von Miller and Rousseau is the better guy. Which is still
• 1:19:45
  like a fun proposition and fun idea. But I say all of these pieces
• 1:19:51
  to connect it to that first point of a more aggressive nature from this Bill's
• 1:19:57
  defense under Sean McDermott, more schematic capability, more versatility, more multiplicity.
• 1:20:03
  I think you will see more of that this season as a whole, but
• 1:20:09
  especially to start the year. If von Miller is not present, and especially
• 1:20:13
  if von Miller is enough to speed when he comes back, you have the
• 1:20:16
  ability to lean on your secondary and lean on your very experienced, very good,
• 1:20:25
  defensive minded head coach who is your defensive coordinator, who has a legitimate
• 1:20:30
  formula that he's used to be successful that got him to be a head coach.
• 1:20:34
  I think they'll lean into it with what the secondary has on the back
• 1:20:38
  end with three all pro caliber dudes in Trey White, Micah Hyde, and
• 1:20:42
  Jordan Poyer. Trey White being another year removed from that ACL injury, I
• 1:20:45
  think he gets close to if not returns to that all pro form potentially,
• 1:20:50
  then you got fun options at CB two. Whether it's Elam or Benford.
• 1:20:55
  I'm higher on Dan Jackson that a lot of people are. But if Dan
• 1:20:58
  Jackson's your corner two with three all pro caliber dudes, I'm fine with it
• 1:21:01
  let alone. If it's Elam or Benford, fun, you got one of
• 1:21:04
  the best slock corners in football and Tarren Johnson fun and you've got Sean McDermott,
• 1:21:09
  an aggressive minded DC who's known for schematic advantages, schemability, confusing,
• 1:21:15
  dictating, aggression, all of those pieces. I think all of that combines
• 1:21:20
  to put together a Bill's defense that on the year will show more exotic looks
• 1:21:27
  and disguise fronts and all the pieces that we talked about. But especially if
• 1:21:30
  von Miller is out and they need to scheme up pressure instead of just being
• 1:21:35
  able to rush forward or just show pressure and still rush forward because you're confident,
• 1:21:41
  Well, this guy's gonna beat that guy, or that guy's gonna beat
• 1:21:43
  this guy. If you have to scheme things up a little more. I
• 1:21:45
  think Sean McDermott turns those dials up even further. And you've got looks up
• 1:21:49
  front where you're like, wait, who so and still has lined up where
• 1:21:54
  oh, like you're watching on TV and you don't even know who's coming,
• 1:21:57
  let alone the quarterback or the offensive line to try and gum up the works
• 1:22:00
  in ID who's rushing from where and what so they can call and scheme up
• 1:22:03
  the right pressure. So all those pieces together, Yeah, I think Trey
• 1:22:10
  White coming back is something that isn't isn't talked about enough, him being a
• 1:22:13
  second year removed from that a cel injury. I think it'll be stronger and
• 1:22:16
  mentally stronger we're in regards to that knee, and more confident in that knee.
• 1:22:23
  So I think you'll see that. And then if Von, you know,
• 1:22:26
  again, that piece connects into the von Miller piece. If he's not
• 1:22:29
  ready, or if he does come back and he's not the Von that we're
• 1:22:33
  used to seeing or that we saw last year in Buffalo, then you have
• 1:22:38
  to scheme up pressure a little bit. More because I don't think they have
• 1:22:40
  a bucket like I don't think they have a walking bucket on the defensive line
• 1:22:45
  right now like they did when von Miller was there. And that's okay.
• 1:22:46
  That doesn't mean you can't still win. That doesn't mean you can't be a
• 1:22:49
  good defense. That doesn't mean you can't generate pressure. Just means you need
• 1:22:53
  to be a little more creative if you're the defensive coordinator or play caller or
• 1:22:56
  designer. And that's where Sean McDermott comes in, and that ties in to
• 1:23:00
  my first piece from earlier. So I think that's a very interesting point.
• 1:23:05
  Pete says Ed's pass rush will come on more than most people are expecting to.
• 1:23:11
  You know what, I could see. I could see another Tremaine I've
• 1:23:13
  been scenario for Ed Oliver where he just blows up this year and then prices
• 1:23:16
  himself right out of Buffalo. I could see that. But you know,
• 1:23:21
  we'll see, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
• 1:23:25
  What else? What other comments do we have? Andrew says, I'm disappointed
• 1:23:31
  about Ajvanessa. I think the coaching staff did him kind of dirty with the
• 1:23:35
  whole weight speed thing, especially in a COVID year. Yeah, they basically
• 1:23:40
  took him and said, like, hey, what you do well and what
• 1:23:42
  works for your body type. We want to change your entire body type and
• 1:23:45
  change your entire skill set in the way you play. So it's tough to
• 1:23:49
  do that, especially at the NFL level, while you're adjusting to trying to
• 1:23:53
  be an NFL player. Great comment here from Thomas. Thomas says Jim Johnson
• 1:23:59
  principle McDermott disciple yep I mentioned earlier like McDermott coming from that tree, aggression,
• 1:24:04
  blitzes, disguised fronts, disguised coverages, mixing up coverages, so on
• 1:24:11
  offense doesn't know what coverage you're in. Is it man is its zone?
• 1:24:14
  Is it too high? Is it single high? Is it going to be
• 1:24:16
  a blitz? Is it a simulated pressure? They're rushing four? Okay?
• 1:24:18
  Which four coming? Who's dropping? Where? Who's doing what? Oh?
• 1:24:23
  I just got hit in the mouth sack fumble, fun, fun, fun,
• 1:24:27
  fun, fun fun. Who I think that's going to do it for
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  us here on this episode of disguised coverage. I want to think everybody who
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