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Teen Girl Gang Raped and Murdered, Probe thwarted on Oneida Indian Nation · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Born on Long Island, Tammy
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Speaker 1: Mahoney came to central New York to attend Morrisville State College.
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Speaker 1: In the early evening hours of May eighth, nineteen eighty one,
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Speaker 1: then nineteen year old Tammy Mahoney was the last seen
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Speaker 1: hitchhiking on State Route forty six, just south of the
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Speaker 1: city of Oneida and near the Oneida Indian Nation. Police
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Speaker 1: believed she was kidnapped, raped, and murdered. Her case has
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Speaker 1: been an ongoing in an active investigation by numerous agencies.
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Speaker 1: Previous investigators said they believed they know who was responsible,
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Speaker 1: but no suspects have ever been publicly identified or charged.
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Speaker 1: We spoke to the FBI, We've been assisted by the
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Speaker 1: Nation Police. Recently. We've done many searches in areas that
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Speaker 1: we've been informed of. Oneida Police investigator William Clark took
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Speaker 1: over Tammy Mahoney's case two years ago. He says new
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Speaker 1: leads are still coming in and being followed up on.
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Speaker 1: The hope is that all these years later, witnesses may
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Speaker 1: finally be willing to do the right thing, and we
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Speaker 1: just hope that eventually something will come in that will
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Speaker 1: lead us to the answer the ultimate goal. You know,
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Speaker 1: where is Tammy? Exactly what happened to her? You were
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Speaker 1: hearing Alex Dunbar with investigator Will Clark. I, Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Where is Tammy Mahoney? I'm looking
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Speaker 1: at her photo right now and she's absolutely precious, big,
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Speaker 1: beautiful smile, dark hair parted down the middle. She reminds
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Speaker 1: me of an actor in that seventies show. She's just precious,
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Speaker 1: nineteen years old. And now I'm looking at the copy
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Speaker 1: of the missing person's flyer. You know that cuts to
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Speaker 1: the heart to think you're looking for this beautiful girl's
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Speaker 1: missing person's flyer again. I Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us with me an all
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Speaker 1: star panel. I found out about this case because of
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Speaker 1: a woman named Teresa Humphrey who contacted me on Facebook.
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Speaker 1: She is the co founder of Justice for Tammy. With
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Speaker 1: us today, Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina, renowned family attorney with
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Speaker 1: me from the FBI PIO, Sarah Ruwayne, Director of the
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Speaker 1: Cold Case Research Institute, Cheryl McCullum, and very special guest,
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Speaker 1: Tammy's sister, Debbie Mahoney. Right now to Dave matt Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter Dave How is it that
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Speaker 1: an investigator says she's been raped and murdered, but we
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Speaker 1: don't know where she is. We have nobody, we have
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Speaker 1: no sighting. Well, just just start at the beginning. When
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Speaker 1: Tammy Mahoney just nineteen years old. You know, Cheryl McCollum,
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Speaker 1: how old is Huck's and how old is your baby? Okay,
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Speaker 1: so in three years, that's the age of Tammy mahoney. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's just think about that for a moment. Okay, Dave
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Speaker 1: mac tell me how does she go missing? Tammy left
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Speaker 1: her home to go to a friend's house, and she
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Speaker 1: didn't have a car. She was actually hitchhiking. The distance
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Speaker 1: was about twenty miles. She was last seen near a
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Speaker 1: mall getting into a car as she was hitchhiking. The
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Speaker 1: investigators have found out they have never actually told us
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Speaker 1: the type or make of the car or the people
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Speaker 1: who actually got her in the carnute. A minute, wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, So she's been missing for several years now
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Speaker 1: and it still has not been released what kind of
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Speaker 1: car she was last seen in. You know, to Debbie Mahoney,
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Speaker 1: this is Tammy's sister. That sounds best awkward. Yeah, it does.
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Speaker 1: And you know, there's so many different stories and so
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Speaker 1: many different things that have been said. But the police, FBI,
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Speaker 1: the CIA, and all of the entities have been on
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Speaker 1: the case the very beginning till this day. It is
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Speaker 1: not a cold case. It is a case that has
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Speaker 1: been under intense investigation from the get go. Nancy, well,
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Speaker 1: why are they Do you know the type of vehicle
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Speaker 1: that she allegedly got into? No, I do not, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: Can I just can I just reiterate about the car? Yes,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Teresa. Okay, recently, as recent as maybe two
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Speaker 1: months ago, we at Facebook, at the Tammy's page, received
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Speaker 1: information from a certain individual I'm not going to name names,
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Speaker 1: we know who owned the car, that there was a
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Speaker 1: car that was stolen from a front yard outside the
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Speaker 1: territory and then it was found inside the territory and
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Speaker 1: then it was impounded. And that happened the day that Tammy,
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Speaker 1: the day after Tammy went missing. Okay, hold on hold,
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Speaker 1: everything start at the beginning with me, co founder for
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Speaker 1: Justice for Tammy. I want to go back to the
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Speaker 1: day that Tammy goes missing. But take a little into this.
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Speaker 1: One of Stantoni orc's Coldest Cases is hitting up again.
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Speaker 1: FBI agents are offering twenty thousand dollars for information that
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Speaker 1: leads them to the body of Tammy Mahoney. Indian Nation
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Speaker 1: offering another twenty thousand dollars. It was on the Nation
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Speaker 1: police suspect. The nineteen year old college student was murdered
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Speaker 1: at or Nia party after being picked up hitchhiking I
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Speaker 1: Rude forty six back in nineteen eighty one. Well, I'm
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Speaker 1: hoping that folks realize that, hey, this is an opportunity
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Speaker 1: for them. You know, if they have information, they're going
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Speaker 1: to get the reward money, and maybe this will be
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Speaker 1: just enough to push them over the edge. Twenty thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: You're hearing about an FBI reward offering and that was
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Speaker 1: just a couple of months ago. That was WSYR News
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Speaker 1: Channel nine reporter Rodwood on the story. I want to
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Speaker 1: go to Sarah Ruwayne, FBI Public Affairs PIO. Sarah, what
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Speaker 1: is the status of the case and what led the
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Speaker 1: FBI to give that most recent press conference on the
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Speaker 1: disappearance of this nineteen year old girl. Tammy Mahoney. The
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Speaker 1: case agent who has been working this has been really
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Speaker 1: very diligently working this, and we had realized that the
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Speaker 1: last update was offered back in the nineties, and you know,
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Speaker 1: being twenty nineteen, the cost of living is different. We
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Speaker 1: knew we had to update that reward to you know,
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Speaker 1: sort of sweeten the pot, if you will. The idea
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Speaker 1: was that anybody who was at that party that night,
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Speaker 1: you know, it was thirty eight years ago, they've been
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Speaker 1: carrying that information and offering a little bit more of
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Speaker 1: a reward there, we're hoping was enough to kind of
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Speaker 1: just finally convince them between the guilt of having some
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Speaker 1: of that information for so long and then again increasing
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Speaker 1: that reward to bring it up to you know, something
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Speaker 1: that's a little more reflective of the time we're living in.
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Speaker 1: And that was just the way for us to really
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Speaker 1: show people that, you know, this is a case we're
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Speaker 1: actively working on. It may be decades old at this point,
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Speaker 1: but the case agent on this case honestly is working
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Speaker 1: this as if it opened yesterday. To Cheryl McCollums right
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Speaker 1: to the Cole Case Research Institute, Cheryl, did you hear
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Speaker 1: that keyword? I just heard party party, you know, Cheryl
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Speaker 1: in book and you were with me as I was
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Speaker 1: laboring through trying to get the rough draft done. Don't
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Speaker 1: be a victim finding back against America's crime wave. An
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Speaker 1: entire chapter is devoted to parties out of control, and
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Speaker 1: I have it sandwiched in right now unless the editors
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Speaker 1: change it by live events, because I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you remember, Cheryl, you and I covered this together. Actually, Kathleen,
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Speaker 1: I think you may have been there too. But there
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Speaker 1: was a young woman who went to a Halloween party
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Speaker 1: as she was dressed as Poison Ivy, and therefore she
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Speaker 1: had on a costume. She had on a red wig,
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Speaker 1: you know, the villain and the Marvel comics Poison Ivy,
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Speaker 1: so nobody knew what she really looked like. The party
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Speaker 1: got out of control, somebody posted it on Facebook and Twitter.
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Speaker 1: There were over five hundred people there. People were parking
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Speaker 1: at a distance and walking to it, and she goes
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Speaker 1: missing in all that. So when you go to a party,
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Speaker 1: you really never know what's going to happen. I hate
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Speaker 1: to put a damper on everybody's weekend fun, but that
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Speaker 1: put a whole new spin on this thing. Sary McCollum, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: so there was gonna be drinking there. There could possibly
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Speaker 1: be drugs there when she was picked up and not
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Speaker 1: taken to where she was headed, which was to a
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Speaker 1: friend's house, and she was taken to this alleged party.
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Speaker 1: I think at that point the suspects knew what they intended,
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Speaker 1: So perhaps they filled her with alcohol. Maybe they slipped
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Speaker 1: her a miki of some sorts that they knew by
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Speaker 1: taking her to this location they had something very sinister
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Speaker 1: in mind. Well, I'm curious did she ever make it
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Speaker 1: to the party. To Debbie Mahoney, this is Tammy's sister.
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Speaker 1: For those of you just joining us. Timmy Mahoney was
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Speaker 1: only nineteen years old when she disappeared in Madison County
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Speaker 1: on May eighth. She was headed to a party, we believe.
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Speaker 1: Investigators say they believe that Mahoney, a Long Island native,
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Speaker 1: was gang raped and murdered. Why Why did they believe that?
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Speaker 1: And why gang rape? Someone had to tell them that?
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Speaker 1: Where did they get that information? Crime stories With Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: FBI agents making a big offer to Central New Yorkers,
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Speaker 1: a twenty thousand dollars reward matched by another twenty thousand
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Speaker 1: from the United Nation. Now they are confidence someone will
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Speaker 1: come forward with information about what happened to Tammy Mahoney.
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Speaker 1: The nineteen year old is believed to have been murdered
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Speaker 1: in Medicine County, but her body has never been filed.
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Speaker 1: Tip line three one five seven three one one seven
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Speaker 1: eight one repeat three one five seven three one one
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Speaker 1: seven eight one. Do you know what happened to Tammy
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Speaker 1: Mahoney before she went missing? She was pretty good student
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Speaker 1: at sunny Morriseville College and she was living in Oneida.
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Speaker 1: Last scene hopping into a car on Route forty six
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Speaker 1: to visit friends in the Hamilton area. Now we know
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Speaker 1: that investigators and police dogs searched a wooded area south
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Speaker 1: of Route forty six in Oneida to find Tammy to
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Speaker 1: no availt That was without success, But the search goes
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Speaker 1: on and now the key is you what do you know? Debbie?
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Speaker 1: Tell me about Tammy. She wanted to be a veterinarian
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Speaker 1: and that is why she enrolled at Morrisville College. She
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Speaker 1: was very astute in going to class. She worked at
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Speaker 1: Vernon Down, which was a horse track there, and she
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Speaker 1: met a lot of people there as she was grooming
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Speaker 1: the horses. The downside for Tammy was that she was
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Speaker 1: very friendly, very popular, and a very vulnerable young lady
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Speaker 1: at nineteen who trusted everyone, and that was her downfall.
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Speaker 1: Her downfall was that she was such a happy, go
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Speaker 1: lucky person that she trusted everyone. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: the key right there, the vulnerability of this young lady,
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Speaker 1: this nineteen year old sister of mine, Tammy, the precious child.
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Speaker 1: She was vulnerable, Nancy. She trusted everyone, and that is
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Speaker 1: I think the key right there that yes she got
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Speaker 1: a ride, Yes she ended up at that party that evening,
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Speaker 1: and then from there it's all speculation with witnesses. I
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Speaker 1: want you to take a listen to this. To people
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Speaker 1: who didn't know Tammy mahoney, these are simply missing person posters.
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Speaker 1: But to Marline Lasasaglia, it's the face of her sister
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Speaker 1: and her mother's daughter. You know, missus how dwana and
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Speaker 1: wonders every day, speaks about her, says a prayer for
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Speaker 1: her every day. You know, it's been a long a
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Speaker 1: long time that we haven't seen her. Their father passed
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Speaker 1: away before he could find out what happened, so it's
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Speaker 1: for their mother most that Marline hopes this combined forty
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars in rewards will lead to answers my mom.
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Speaker 1: She's eighty five and she you know, she's elderly, and
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Speaker 1: I know that in her heart that she would like
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Speaker 1: to know in the end what happened to my sister,
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Speaker 1: and that justice has been served and that we can
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Speaker 1: bring her home and you know, have her rest in peace.
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Speaker 1: People in Central in the Ark will start to see
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Speaker 1: more of Tammy's face again. New posters have been printed
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Speaker 1: by the FBI with the increased reward amount. They'll go
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Speaker 1: up today. She's always remembered every day in all prayers
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Speaker 1: and in all thoughts, and on every birthday celebration. We
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Speaker 1: still have people that send mask coods for her birthday,
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Speaker 1: and you know, she's never been forgotten. Marline describes it
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Speaker 1: as an empty space that they hope is replaced with
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Speaker 1: the truth. You're hearing her friends at WSYR News Channel nine.
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Speaker 1: That was Andrew Donovan, what has happened to Tammy Mahoney?
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Speaker 1: I want to circle back to that night. Dave Matt
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Speaker 1: crime online dot com investigative reporter, and I urge everyone
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Speaker 1: to go to crime online dot com. Take a look
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Speaker 1: at the picture, the photo, multiple photos of Tammy Mahoney.
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Speaker 1: Read in depth what we know. If you have information
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Speaker 1: three one five seven, three one one seven eighty one
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Speaker 1: repeat three one five seven, three one one seven eight one.
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Speaker 1: There was a forty thousand dollar reward. So Dave Matt
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Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, she sets out, was
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Speaker 1: she going specifically to a party or where she spotted
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Speaker 1: at a party? Now, Man, she actually set out early
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Speaker 1: that evening to go to a friend's house in the
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Speaker 1: town of Hamilton. It was while she was hitchhiking there
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Speaker 1: that she was picked up not far from her home
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Speaker 1: and that's when she got into the car and they
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Speaker 1: took her to the party on the Oneida Indian property
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Speaker 1: and that's where she was seen at this trailer party
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Speaker 1: and Nancy, there were a lot of witnesses. A lot
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Speaker 1: of people have talked about this. They talked about seeing
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Speaker 1: her there. Now we don't know their names. Investigators have
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Speaker 1: always played this really close to the vest, but there's
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Speaker 1: always been twelve to fourteen people who have been identified
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Speaker 1: not by name, as people who were at the party.
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Speaker 1: That's how we when we never found her body, and
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Speaker 1: that's how we know that she was raped and murdered.
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Speaker 1: It's from these eyewitnesses that were at this party too.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCallum, director of the Cold Case Research Institute. Wait
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Speaker 1: and Cheryl, these perpetrators, so gang rape means there's three
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Speaker 1: or more. It is not like they went to that party,
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Speaker 1: drugs her, raped her, murdered her, and disposed of her
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Speaker 1: and then went into preaching. These people have been in
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Speaker 1: and out of jail. These people have talked about it,
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Speaker 1: bragged about it. The witnesses at that party know who
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Speaker 1: these folks are. It is time for people to come forward.
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Speaker 1: If you were nineteen or twenty at the time, you're
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Speaker 1: now there sixty year old, stop being afraid and tell
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Speaker 1: his family the truth. Take a Listen to reporter Alex
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Speaker 1: Dunbar with investigator Will Clark. Investigators help. Anyone with any
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Speaker 1: information will come forward, even if they think that what
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Speaker 1: they know is insignificant. Small clues could connect with other weeds. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: anybody who's been living with something that they know good
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Speaker 1: solid they have some solid proof, some evidence, or something
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Speaker 1: that they remember when they were a child, something that
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Speaker 1: they remembered when they were a younger adult. Something somebody
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Speaker 1: wants to get off their chest now after all these years,
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Speaker 1: It can all help. Michael Gremo and other friends started
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Speaker 1: a Facebook page, Justice for Tammy Mahoney. More than three
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Speaker 1: thousand people follow the updates, and Gremo says they will
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Speaker 1: not give up and will continue to push for answers
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Speaker 1: for their high school classmates. Guys, we are talking about
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Speaker 1: a beautiful nineteen year old girl. I don't really understand it.
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Speaker 1: To Teresa Humphrey, kind of founder of Justice for Tammy,
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Speaker 1: why are people still covering for whom ever attack? And
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Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of corruption back then.
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Speaker 1: It was politically driven not to solve her case because
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Speaker 1: of the people that the suspects that were there. Some
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Speaker 1: of them are I believe, leaders of the United Indian
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Speaker 1: Reservation now and they don't want to touch them because
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Speaker 1: the whole town up there is dependent on them. Half
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Speaker 1: half of the the Indian Reservation, I found is divided
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Speaker 1: in half because of and it started with Tammy's murder.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately it was before the casinos and everything else, and
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Speaker 1: unfortunately some of the perpetrators went into power, so be it.
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Speaker 1: I can't name names, but I think people would be
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Speaker 1: shocked with the information that came through that we did
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Speaker 1: forward to the FBI and to the police department, and
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Speaker 1: nothing seems to be getting done about it, and this
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Speaker 1: person is in the public eye, getting rewards and so forth,
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Speaker 1: and it's and it's kind of heart disheartening. Today at
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Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, what do you know
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Speaker 1: about a potential cover up? The police were able to
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Speaker 1: develop the story of what happened to Tammy within a
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Speaker 1: matter of days of her disappearance. The cover up comes
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Speaker 1: into the fact that you do have people that are
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Speaker 1: involved in You mentioned this a minute ago. When you
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Speaker 1: get into Indian Land, there's a real separation between the
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Speaker 1: United States of America and what our laws are and
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Speaker 1: what you can and cannot do on Indian owned land.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace the search for Tammy Mahoney.
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Speaker 1: Authorities there saying nothing turned up today in the search
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Speaker 1: for new clues that coming into us moments ago from
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Speaker 1: Oneida City Police, but they do say this is an
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Speaker 1: ongoing investigation. It's been a mystery for more than thirty years,
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Speaker 1: and today saw a renewed hope for the family of Mahome,
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Speaker 1: who disappeared back in nineteen eighty one. Police brought in
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Speaker 1: canine cadaver jogs today on a new tip, hoping for
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Speaker 1: answers again. They turned up nothing. The FBI and state troopers,
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Speaker 1: along with Oneida City police, spent the day combing these
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Speaker 1: woods just off forty six in Oneida. Mahoney was lasting
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Speaker 1: hitchhiking on State Route forty six just south of the
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Speaker 1: city near the Nita Indian Nation back in May of
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one. Police belife she was kidnapped, gangraped, and murdered.
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Speaker 1: I mean, see, Grace, this is crime stories you were
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Speaker 1: hearing cmy centrals. Megan Coleman, where is Tammy Mahoney? I
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Speaker 1: want to go to Sarah Ruaine, FBI Public Affairs PIO. Sarah,
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Speaker 1: that seems really wrong to me that people are suspects,
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Speaker 1: cops say they know who did it, but nothing is
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Speaker 1: being done about it. Sarah. So, I think that's the
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Speaker 1: That's always been the tough part of what we at
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Speaker 1: the bureau, you know, do, is that so much cannot
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Speaker 1: get out. I can tell you that the case agent
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Speaker 1: has taken every lead and has exhausted that lead. He
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Speaker 1: is traveling, he's doing out of state interviews. It is
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Speaker 1: a matter of this being an extremely complicated case because
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Speaker 1: it is on an Indian territory, and as they've just mentioned,
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Speaker 1: there are things just that have to be done differently,
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Speaker 1: but it is tricky for us. The ultimate goal for
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Speaker 1: us is always going to be to take this to
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Speaker 1: some kind of prosecution. That's what's right in our reward.
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Speaker 1: You know, we are looking for information leading to the
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Speaker 1: recovery of the body of Tammy Mahoney and or the
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Speaker 1: arrest and prosecution of those responsible. So I know that
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Speaker 1: people who you know, like yourself, you obviously have your
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Speaker 1: your legal background here, there is information that can't get
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Speaker 1: out because our ultimate goal is going to be prosecution
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Speaker 1: at this point. So what I can tell you is
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Speaker 1: that behind the scenes, every single lead, every single tip,
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Speaker 1: I mean, the simple fact that the number on the
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Speaker 1: missing person liars is the direct number to the UTICA office,
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Speaker 1: and that is that was done on purpose because we
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Speaker 1: did not want to miss any single solitary piece of
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Speaker 1: information that you know, no detail is too small at
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Speaker 1: this point. So I think that it is something that
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Speaker 1: we are working tirelessly, and I think that it's just,
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Speaker 1: you know, certain things have to be kept to us
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Speaker 1: at this point so as to not jeopardize any future movement. Here, guys,
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Speaker 1: we were talking about the disappearance of a beautiful young
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Speaker 1: teen girl Tammy, mahoney, I want you to take a
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Speaker 1: listen to this. Marline Massasaglia is still hopeful she'll find
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Speaker 1: out what happened to her sister. She was a wonderful, sweet,
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Speaker 1: spirited young nineteen year old girl who came up Pireta,
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Speaker 1: Central New York to come pursue our education. Today, Marline
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Speaker 1: making her own trip from Long Island, joining the FBI
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Speaker 1: agent in charge of the case, upping the reward for
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Speaker 1: information that solves the mystery. Certain events have happened that
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Speaker 1: I can't go into, but we think it's time now
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Speaker 1: that if we incentivize folks with this monetary reward, that
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Speaker 1: they will come forward. They'll take anything from anyone, not
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Speaker 1: limited to the obvious, like those at the same party
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Speaker 1: on the territory of the Nita Nation where Timmy was
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Speaker 1: murdered after being picked up hitchhiking on Root forty six
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Speaker 1: in May of nineteen eighty one. How does a reward
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Speaker 1: this big change of the game, do you hope? Well,
21:16
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that folks realize that, hey, this is an
21:18
Speaker 1: opportunity for them. You know, if they have information, they're
21:21
Speaker 1: going to get the reward money and maybe this will
21:23
Speaker 1: be just enough to push them over the edge to
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Speaker 1: make that phone call. You were hearing our friends at
21:28
Speaker 1: w SYR News Channel nine. That was Andrew Donovan. Something
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Speaker 1: I don't understand, RL. Mccollins, Director Coal Case Research Institute,
21:36
Speaker 1: is why are they so sure that Timmy was gang
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Speaker 1: raped and murdered If there are no witnesses, how do
21:42
Speaker 1: we know that? Well, there possibly our witnesses, Nancy, whether
21:46
Speaker 1: it's an ear witness or an eyewitness. People talked and
21:51
Speaker 1: people that were at that party know whether or not
21:54
Speaker 1: she was drug into a back bedroom and the doors slammed,
21:56
Speaker 1: and what they could hear. They know how she was
21:58
Speaker 1: taken out of that house. The under sheriff said there
22:02
Speaker 1: were dozens of people and that home people taught and
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Speaker 1: you know as well as I do, in a situation
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Speaker 1: like this, especially if that person has gone on to
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Speaker 1: have power, whether it's to the casino or local government,
22:15
Speaker 1: whatever it is on that reservation. This is not the
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Speaker 1: only person they've heard to get to where they are.
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Speaker 1: They've abused other women and think it's nothing. So there's
22:27
Speaker 1: other people that they have used and abused. And again,
22:32
Speaker 1: if those people would come forward to paint this picture
22:36
Speaker 1: of this suspect it would be tremendously helpful. After a
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Speaker 1: long time feeling as if Timmy's case was no longer
22:44
Speaker 1: on the public's mind, now there is a new renewal
22:48
Speaker 1: in the search for Timmy Myoney and the truth of
22:51
Speaker 1: her disappearance. Timmy, a nineteen year old teen girl, reportedly
22:57
Speaker 1: was getting a ride and she got into a car
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Speaker 1: and was taken to the onto the Oneida Nation Territory,
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Speaker 1: that's an Indian reservation off State Route forty six in Oneida.
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Speaker 1: People believe she was gang raped and murdered by perps
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Speaker 1: still living in the area. Oneida Police, assisted by the FBI,
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Speaker 1: they even did a dig along State Route forty six.
23:28
Speaker 1: Nothing was found, but the search is going on. A
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Speaker 1: lot of leads are still being developed. You're right about
23:37
Speaker 1: people at a party speaking gossiping to Kathleen Murphy, North
23:41
Speaker 1: Carolina lawyer, Kathleen, why is it that we, you know,
23:46
Speaker 1: for instance, the Oneida police, why can't they touch any
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Speaker 1: investigation on the Indian territory, Kathleen, federal law and also Nancy,
23:55
Speaker 1: I think that Cheryl hit the nail on the head
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Speaker 1: when she said there may be people in power that
24:00
Speaker 1: are preventing somebody from coming forward to touch on exactly
24:06
Speaker 1: what happened to this young woman and Kathleen. It's not
24:09
Speaker 1: just in this case. Look at Weinstein, look at Epstein,
24:13
Speaker 1: very very powerful people that nobody stopped. And it went
24:18
Speaker 1: on for thirty years plus, talking about up to eighty
24:23
Speaker 1: victims in one case, across London, US, California, New York.
24:29
Speaker 1: It just it's Paris. It boggles your mind that this
24:33
Speaker 1: type of felonious behavior is tolerated. People look the other way.
24:38
Speaker 1: And I firmly believe Debbie Mahoney and Theresa Humphrey are right.
24:43
Speaker 1: People know who did this to this team girl, and
24:46
Speaker 1: nothing is happening because this is on an Indian reservation
24:50
Speaker 1: and we regular law enforcement can't touch them. The FBI
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Speaker 1: tipline three one seven three one seven eight one. I'm
24:59
Speaker 1: so mad. I could chew an l and a half.
25:00
Speaker 1: Imagine what this girl's parents and family have been through.
25:05
Speaker 1: They know in their minds what happened, but nothing has
25:09
Speaker 1: been done about it because of the inability for US
25:14
Speaker 1: regular law enforcement to touch what's happening on an Indian reservation.
25:20
Speaker 1: I want to go to Debbie Mahoney, Tammy's sister joining us.
25:25
Speaker 1: Tell me what happened in your life when your sister
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Speaker 1: Tammy went missing that day, that night, the next day.
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Speaker 1: What happened? Do you remember? Yes, I remember very clearly Nancy.
25:36
Speaker 1: I was living in California, teaching army teacher, and I
25:42
Speaker 1: received a phone call that she was missing. I spoke
25:47
Speaker 1: with my family, my siblings, my mother, everybody. Doug Bailey
25:52
Speaker 1: was in consisting contact with my mother. The whole time.
25:59
Speaker 1: We will all absolutely devastated and perplexed on what had happened.
26:05
Speaker 1: We didn't know my mother. She went up there, she
26:10
Speaker 1: met with Doug. The police relentlessly combed through this for
26:15
Speaker 1: years and years and years. Doug Bailey, he is retired now,
26:19
Speaker 1: but he literally gave his life to to finding out
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Speaker 1: what happened. But at that time, in the beginning, when
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Speaker 1: it first happened, we couldn't even go on the reservation
26:31
Speaker 1: at all. And we all waited and hoped and waited
26:37
Speaker 1: and hoped, and everybody just was pulling through trying to
26:42
Speaker 1: find out. Maums were talking, people was telling all types
26:47
Speaker 1: of stories. My mother went up and got Tammy's articles,
26:53
Speaker 1: you know, in a trunk, her guitar. She loved music.
26:58
Speaker 1: We have all of her things. Still, we never had
27:01
Speaker 1: a closing ceremony. We never had anything yet, because there
27:06
Speaker 1: is nobody and there is no answer my mother, as
27:10
Speaker 1: my sister Mow had said at the press, confidence my mother,
27:14
Speaker 1: We're all just waiting to hear. And I think of
27:20
Speaker 1: her every day. I have her pictures all over my home,
27:24
Speaker 1: and it's very devastating for all of us, in fact,
27:27
Speaker 1: to the point where we hardly speak of it anymore,
27:31
Speaker 1: because what can we say. I plead with the people
27:38
Speaker 1: out there in Oneida and all over in that vicinity,
27:43
Speaker 1: there's forty thousand dollars reward. Please, please come forth and
27:50
Speaker 1: pull that number, and let's get some closure for everyone,
27:56
Speaker 1: for the people who are involved, for the people who
27:59
Speaker 1: know from my family, and for Tammy too, for all
28:03
Speaker 1: of us to know what happened, because they do know.
28:07
Speaker 1: Teresa Humphrey, co founder of Justice for Tammy, is with us. Teresa.
28:12
Speaker 1: I can hear you crying. I feel like crying for you. Nancy.
28:19
Speaker 1: I just have to tell you. As of late night
28:22
Speaker 1: last night, after I came home from my nursing shift,
28:25
Speaker 1: I did on one extra thing. I actually sat down
28:29
Speaker 1: and I wrote an email to Lindsey Graham who was
28:32
Speaker 1: the chairman of the Senate ch of the Sherry Committee,
28:35
Speaker 1: to let him know what's going on with this case
28:37
Speaker 1: and asking him if there is a way to take
28:40
Speaker 1: the case out of Oneida and an assign a special
28:43
Speaker 1: prosecution office to see why the people were never prosecuted
28:46
Speaker 1: in this case time and time again. Thirty eight years
28:49
Speaker 1: later they said that they were going to prosecute. They
28:51
Speaker 1: were going to prosecute. The people are running around. You know,
28:54
Speaker 1: now we have the possibility of corruption. This case has
28:58
Speaker 1: got to come to an end, and not for ready
29:12
Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. Where is Tammy Mahoney, Sarah
29:21
Speaker 1: Ruwayne with me from the FBI? If it's seemingly quote
29:26
Speaker 1: everybody knows who did it. I don't understand what the
29:30
Speaker 1: hold up is. I mean, can the FBI enter and
29:34
Speaker 1: search and conduct investigations on Indian reservations? So the the
29:39
Speaker 1: case agents and yes, the FBI has been conducting um,
29:44
Speaker 1: I mean for at this point decades, Um that's been happening.
29:48
Speaker 1: The issue is you know that I certainly can't get
29:52
Speaker 1: into how these things are happening. But not every interview
29:56
Speaker 1: turns out to be truthful. Um. You know, some people
29:59
Speaker 1: are giving in for reason that is not the case,
30:02
Speaker 1: and so obviously then you're kind of starting over again
30:05
Speaker 1: for this. But you know, this is something that we
30:09
Speaker 1: can't really it's such a unique case for us for
30:12
Speaker 1: so many reasons. But the one thing that has never
30:15
Speaker 1: wavered is the cooperation between the local police departments and
30:21
Speaker 1: and the FBI. You know, there's been a lot of
30:23
Speaker 1: talk of Doug Bailey, and I think there's no doubt
30:25
Speaker 1: that he is the person who has absolutely kept us moving.
30:28
Speaker 1: He's the one who created the task force, which is
30:30
Speaker 1: how we got involved. And Sarah, I have no reason
30:34
Speaker 1: to disbelieve you at all, but it really doesn't sound
30:38
Speaker 1: like it's moving. It's been thirty eight years. I mean,
30:41
Speaker 1: you're not gonna find any DNA. DNA ain't gonna happen.
30:46
Speaker 1: All you've got our witness statements. Let me understand something,
30:50
Speaker 1: Dave Matt Crime online dot Com. Did the alleged gang
30:52
Speaker 1: rape happen at the party? At or near the party?
30:55
Speaker 1: Is what we've gotten from the police, we assume, and
30:59
Speaker 1: I hate to soon, but this comes from again what
31:02
Speaker 1: the police have said based on their interviews of people.
31:06
Speaker 1: We still can't even identify who's telling what story because
31:10
Speaker 1: they won't tell us. Mentioned Doug Bailey, the guy followed
31:13
Speaker 1: us for twenty years and in the early two thousands
31:16
Speaker 1: he said that a prosecution was imminent. That was eighteen
31:19
Speaker 1: years ago. Take a listen to CNY Centrals Sarah bath Ackerman.
31:22
Speaker 1: This just came in only minutes ago that the results
31:26
Speaker 1: came back negative. And we've been here all day as
31:28
Speaker 1: crews were searching this wooded area that you see behind me.
31:31
Speaker 1: Since then about an hour ago, they packed up and
31:33
Speaker 1: left for the day, and they also told us they
31:36
Speaker 1: will not be coming back here on Monday. Multiple agencies
31:39
Speaker 1: have spent their day right here in this wooded area
31:42
Speaker 1: off of Rue forty six and Oneida for hour searching
31:45
Speaker 1: any evidence in connection to Tammy Mahoney. To Cheryl McCollum,
31:49
Speaker 1: director of the Coal Case Research Institute, this is just
31:52
Speaker 1: so frustrating, is something, Debbie Mahoney, Tammy's sister, said. Really,
31:56
Speaker 1: the struck a chord, you know, the Coal Case murder
31:59
Speaker 1: you and are working on, Okay, off the record, and
32:03
Speaker 1: I hate to even call the parents. I hate to
32:07
Speaker 1: even think about the case. I make myself think about it.
32:10
Speaker 1: You know, the other day you and I were in
32:12
Speaker 1: the car. Did you know. For the next two or
32:14
Speaker 1: three days, I couldn't get it off my mind, trying
32:16
Speaker 1: to replace all the possibilities of how that murder occurred
32:22
Speaker 1: and how I could help. And I hate hte to
32:26
Speaker 1: call the parents because I don't have anything, and I
32:30
Speaker 1: know that feeling. You hate to even think about it
32:33
Speaker 1: because there's no answer. And can you imagine what these
32:37
Speaker 1: parents are going through? Just something so wrong in this case, Cheryl, Oh,
32:42
Speaker 1: it's dut Rich Andy. And here's the thing. They don't
32:44
Speaker 1: have a primary crom tent. So did the rape occur
32:48
Speaker 1: at the house and then the murder of her somewhere else?
32:51
Speaker 1: Did something occur in this car that they're looking for.
32:54
Speaker 1: So without a primary crom tent, without like you said,
32:57
Speaker 1: DNA or ciminal fluid anything, it is imperative that we
33:02
Speaker 1: recover her, whether they use ground penetrating thrones in concert
33:07
Speaker 1: with K nine, which is what I would recommend, but
33:10
Speaker 1: if we can recover her, we would be able to
33:14
Speaker 1: determine blunt force trauma. For example, was she bound? Was
33:18
Speaker 1: she God forbids set on fire? And the rest of
33:20
Speaker 1: the things that a lot of people do to try
33:22
Speaker 1: to cover up evidence. Well, she you know, buries there,
33:26
Speaker 1: shallow grave somewhere. This to me would be my primary
33:29
Speaker 1: focus right now. And everybody seems to be working together.
33:34
Speaker 1: Seems like the Nation Police and the you know, FBI
33:37
Speaker 1: and everybody. Cheryl are even saying that, I know, because
33:41
Speaker 1: if everybody was working together, all right, we would have
33:45
Speaker 1: justice in this case. This teen girl, this teen girl
33:48
Speaker 1: born in Farringdale, Long Island, graduates high school, moves to
33:53
Speaker 1: Oneida to study animal husbandry, that's to be a veterinarian
33:57
Speaker 1: at Marshall State College. They has been investigated by Oneidah
34:02
Speaker 1: City Police, Madison County Sheriff's Office, the Nation Police, New
34:06
Speaker 1: York State Police, now the FBI is on it. Who
34:09
Speaker 1: is with us today? Police say there are medical records
34:13
Speaker 1: on file for Mahoney and she's listed in the missing
34:16
Speaker 1: Person's database. She has been missing and police believe she
34:20
Speaker 1: was kidnapped, raped and murdered after getting a ride on
34:23
Speaker 1: State Route forty six, Oneida, ending up at a party
34:27
Speaker 1: on the Oneida Nation, Indian Territory, and she has never
34:32
Speaker 1: been seen since. There is a forty thousand dollar reward.
34:39
Speaker 1: Tipline three one five seven three one one seven eight
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Speaker 1: one repeat three one, five, seven three one one seven
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Speaker 1: eight one. Please bring peace to Tammy's family. Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: Crime Story signing off goodbye friend one