Latest / Chuck Douglas / Former Chairman of The California Republican Party Tom Del Bacarro
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Somebody that I used to talk to fairly frequently, and
- 0:02Speaker 1: I have not in a while, and I regret that
- 0:05Speaker 1: because he was always one of my favorites. To see
- 0:07Speaker 1: him on Fox News, Fox Business, Newsmax. He's all over
- 0:10Speaker 1: the place. You can't get away from him. Last time
- 0:13Speaker 1: we talked, he had had the book that was out
- 0:15Speaker 1: was called The Divided Era, which was a great read,
- 0:17Speaker 1: very intuitive, very common sense and basically just talking about
- 0:22Speaker 1: our government decisions, essentially our dividing people in this country.
- 0:28Speaker 1: And there was nothing profound about it, unless you're just
- 0:33Speaker 1: playing stupid. It was just so matter of fact and
- 0:36Speaker 1: so common sense that it was a wonderful, wonderful read.
- 0:39Speaker 1: He's got his latest out, which I don't have yet,
- 0:43Speaker 1: and I didn't even know it had come out, to
- 0:44Speaker 1: be honest with you, A new book called Lessons of
- 0:46Speaker 1: the American Civilization came out in July of twenty twenty four,
- 0:51Speaker 1: and I didn't get a copy, so I'll hold him
- 0:53Speaker 1: to task for that. He was chairman of the California
- 0:56Speaker 1: Republican Party at one time, and there was a time
- 0:58Speaker 1: when I was hoping he would take Boxers, but Barbara
- 1:01Speaker 1: Boxer seat out there in California. That didn't happen. Nonetheless,
- 1:05Speaker 1: he remains vibrant and very recently he did the same
- 1:08Speaker 1: thing I did, which was in the Meridor Arena way
- 1:11Speaker 1: out kicked his coverage. Congratulations and welcome Tom del Bacaro.
- 1:15Speaker 1: How are you.
- 1:16Speaker 2: That's always great to hear your voice. Thanks for having
- 1:19Speaker 2: me back.
- 1:19Speaker 1: On ye Yeah, you're missed. I can't believe we have
- 1:23Speaker 1: not talked in as long as because I'm looking at you,
- 1:26Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I miss him.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Well, let's do it regularly. It's great to be on
- 1:31Speaker 2: in Ohio and quite the new year, isn't it?
- 1:36Speaker 1: Yes? It is well, I you know, And I was
- 1:38Speaker 1: telling Zach the producer, when I told him I was
- 1:40Speaker 1: going to book you for this show. I said, you know,
- 1:42Speaker 1: he said, what are you going to talk about? I said,
- 1:44Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because whatever the news of the day is,
- 1:47Speaker 1: he's going to be on it. And really, this this
- 1:50Speaker 1: USA thing, man, this this is stupid. This is stupid
- 1:55Speaker 1: that all of this money has been going all of
- 1:57Speaker 1: these plays. It's no wonder they don't want us to
- 1:59Speaker 1: know what's going on. This We've spent billions of dollars
- 2:02Speaker 1: on some really ignorant things in this country, and I
- 2:04Speaker 1: can't believe it's happened for as long as it has
- 2:07Speaker 1: in the cover of darkness.
- 2:10Speaker 2: Yeah, if you think about it broadly speaking, we're at
- 2:13Speaker 2: the age where government's protecting itself from the citizens. And
- 2:17Speaker 2: one of the reasons is just because they wanted to
- 2:19Speaker 2: keep power. But the other is they don't want us
- 2:21Speaker 2: to know a lot of the nefarious things they were doing,
- 2:25Speaker 2: whether that's funding media in America to attack conservative things,
- 2:30Speaker 2: or whether that is really undermining governments abroad. I mean,
- 2:34Speaker 2: us AID was supposed to be supporting emerging democracies. Instead
- 2:41Speaker 2: they are supporting emerging conflicted dividing policies and places around
- 2:49Speaker 2: the globe. You know a lot of these places they
- 2:52Speaker 2: were giving money to and trans for trans activities are
- 2:58Speaker 2: highly Catholic places. What would be the purpose of that?
- 3:02Speaker 2: And I'm glad it's being uncovered.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and some of the things were what
- 3:06Speaker 1: was that one basket weaving for Peruvian lesbians or something,
- 3:09Speaker 1: I forget what it was, or Guatemala maybe is the
- 3:12Speaker 1: country I'm thinking of where And you're thinking this stuff
- 3:15Speaker 1: just does not coincide. The things you are funding, does
- 3:18Speaker 1: not even coincide with the nature of the people of
- 3:22Speaker 1: the country is what you're saying here, And when you've
- 3:26Speaker 1: got an area also go on top.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Of that, and then you have to question how much
- 3:31Speaker 2: of that money with sites and DEWAY all the condoms
- 3:34Speaker 2: that went to Hamas Really do you really think that's
- 3:38Speaker 2: what it was that many millions or did they you know,
- 3:43Speaker 2: pack the box and on the top of it it
- 3:45Speaker 2: says condoms, but inside what they will really do was
- 3:48Speaker 2: outright funding a moss well.
- 3:51Speaker 1: And so much of this also, you know, it smells
- 3:53Speaker 1: of the same, the same worries and concerns that I
- 3:57Speaker 1: have over the money that's allegedly going to Ukraine. How
- 4:00Speaker 1: much of that is getting kicked back to DNC, how
- 4:02Speaker 1: much of that is coming I don't believe we are
- 4:05Speaker 1: spending as much as we are being told that we
- 4:07Speaker 1: are spending on these things. I think it's there's a
- 4:11Speaker 1: lot of paying off going on under the table.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Yeah, think about this, Think about all the way government
- 4:18Speaker 2: wastes money here and and it gets siphoned off. Well,
- 4:23Speaker 2: that we have more control over it here than we
- 4:25Speaker 2: do certainly over there. And does anybody think it went
- 4:28Speaker 2: into those Ukrainian banks? And Valensky and all of those
- 4:31Speaker 2: people were Boy Scouts during this process. No, this is
- 4:37Speaker 2: I get in the world. It's not We're not sending
- 4:41Speaker 2: things to a monastery where people are frugal. But yes,
- 4:48Speaker 2: and this is exposing it. What's really important about this
- 4:51Speaker 2: is that Trump continues to show everyone the corruption because
- 4:57Speaker 2: the Democrats when they attack this stuff, it's the indefensible.
- 5:01Speaker 2: But Americans need to know what it is so that
- 5:04Speaker 2: Trump can win the day and the argument.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Let's get to Donald Trump at number forty seven. Are
- 5:12Speaker 1: you are you happy so far? Are you still cautious?
- 5:15Speaker 1: Are you what's your gut telling you about the Trump
- 5:20Speaker 1: presidency this time around?
- 5:23Speaker 2: The same thing that when I supported in the last
- 5:25Speaker 2: time around. I want to be safe, that I want
- 5:28Speaker 2: the economy to grow, and we're already safer. The border
- 5:32Speaker 2: is shut down. That doesn't mean he's cleaned out everybody
- 5:35Speaker 2: within the country. That's going to take time, but the
- 5:38Speaker 2: border crossings have now dribbled to almost nothing. Put into
- 5:42Speaker 2: the lie to the Biden comment, there's nothing I can
- 5:45Speaker 2: do until you give me more money. So I'm feeling safer.
- 5:49Speaker 2: I think the odds that the defunding of Iran is
- 5:54Speaker 2: immensely important and it's and I have two big things
- 5:58Speaker 2: I'm watching this year, one domestic, one four and the
- 6:02Speaker 2: possibility that the Molas of Iran falls in the next
- 6:05Speaker 2: twenty four twelve months to twenty four is very possible.
- 6:09Speaker 2: So I wanted him the last time because I wanted
- 6:13Speaker 2: to feel safer. And we're there, and look, he's already
- 6:17Speaker 2: cutting spending. We have a spending problem. As my friend,
- 6:20Speaker 2: this Treasury Secretary's coop bess and said, we don't have
- 6:25Speaker 2: a revenue problem, we have a spending problem, which is
- 6:27Speaker 2: what Reagan used to say. So he started on that project.
- 6:32Speaker 2: And so yes, I'm happy because the two things I want,
- 6:35Speaker 2: to be safe and to have a prosperous economy are
- 6:39Speaker 2: happening right before our eyes.
- 6:41Speaker 1: As I'm telling my Democrat friends out there that are
- 6:44Speaker 1: doing their best to be snarky and loyal to their
- 6:47Speaker 1: their leftist thought process, just you know, please sit down
- 6:51Speaker 1: and shut up. Just see where you are a year
- 6:53Speaker 1: from now, because this isn't about a Republican president. This
- 6:57Speaker 1: is about an American president, and what he is doing
- 6:59Speaker 1: is eating momentum for each of us, not just for
- 7:03Speaker 1: people who are a given political circle. Here. Don't naysay
- 7:09Speaker 1: everything because you had four years before. Do you remember
- 7:12Speaker 1: when your leader said, does he have a magic wand
- 7:15Speaker 1: wh I'll be damned. He must have. He must have
- 7:18Speaker 1: because he changed things dramatically in this country in those
- 7:22Speaker 1: four years. And this time around, he knows what he's
- 7:25Speaker 1: doing and you know who the players are. He's going
- 7:27Speaker 1: to be even more effective if you will allow it.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. He comes into Washington this time
- 7:36Speaker 2: around with many more allies, but also with a lot
- 7:41Speaker 2: more experience, and he's moving fast. Gold of my ear,
- 7:44Speaker 2: the famous Prime Minister of Israel said, if you're going
- 7:49Speaker 2: to do tough things, you do them all at once
- 7:51Speaker 2: and in the beginning, because then your policies have a
- 7:55Speaker 2: chance to work. Things will get better before and all
- 7:59Speaker 2: the fruits will be born for the next election. Well,
- 8:01Speaker 2: Trump understands that he's going to do He's going to
- 8:03Speaker 2: be doing some tough things, and he's moving fast because
- 8:06Speaker 2: he knows maybe he has twelve months fifteen months tops,
- 8:10Speaker 2: but he's got to produce a good economy, and he's
- 8:14Speaker 2: off to a good start. The only risk I see
- 8:19Speaker 2: is Republicans not getting their act together and understanding that
- 8:23Speaker 2: these tax cuts have to be made permanent. This they're
- 8:28Speaker 2: starting to say again that, oh well, if we renew
- 8:32Speaker 2: the tax cuts, there'll be more of a deficit. Could
- 8:36Speaker 2: not be more wrong. I have a new upbed coming
- 8:38Speaker 2: out on that shortly lower rates produce higher revenues. But
- 8:42Speaker 2: there's still I call them flat earthers of the economy
- 8:45Speaker 2: who don't understand. Well, we all know, we as Americans
- 8:49Speaker 2: know that when a business puts something on sale, it
- 8:53Speaker 2: people walk through the door and buy it more than
- 8:56Speaker 2: when it's at a higher price. Same applies to the
- 8:59Speaker 2: economy an income.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Mister Johnson had better not be a mister McConnell jor
- 9:05Speaker 1: I know that much the agenda has to move forward.
- 9:09Speaker 1: If it falls on its face, then so be it.
- 9:11Speaker 1: But you can't hold him accountable for something when you
- 9:14Speaker 1: don't give him the power to make it happen. And
- 9:16Speaker 1: that's I need them to get out of the way.
- 9:19Speaker 1: On our national scale, Congress is a big consideration. They've
- 9:23Speaker 1: got to unite the way the left unites when they
- 9:25Speaker 1: want to get something done, and Republicans always seem to
- 9:27Speaker 1: have a problem with that. On an international scale, as
- 9:30Speaker 1: they are laughing at the idea of developing the Gaza
- 9:33Speaker 1: strip and turning it into something. You know, that's what
- 9:35Speaker 1: Donald Trump is all about. And Dubai is a desert
- 9:39Speaker 1: and Las Vegas is a desert. But somebody had visions,
- 9:42Speaker 1: somebody made something happen. And when he said it could
- 9:45Speaker 1: be a paradise, yeah, and it absolutely could be. In
- 9:48Speaker 1: the number of people who had that vision, who would
- 9:51Speaker 1: invest in an idea like that means the American taxpayers
- 9:55Speaker 1: don't take it on. It also means probably a more
- 9:58Speaker 1: peaceful region because I frankly think Donald Trump's presidency strengthens
- 10:02Speaker 1: that in Yahoo. The people of Israel seeing that support
- 10:06Speaker 1: and that camaraderie between the two of them means that
- 10:09Speaker 1: camaraderie between the two countries, which is that's going to
- 10:14Speaker 1: increase their strength, that's going to increase their confidence, and
- 10:17Speaker 1: it's probably going to quiet some of their detractors and enemies.
- 10:20Speaker 1: So there's so much good that can happen if people
- 10:23Speaker 1: just get in line and work with what we have.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Absolutely and add to the defunding of itr on and
- 10:30Speaker 2: what he's done Trump. Look, I don't personally believe he
- 10:34Speaker 2: thinks America is going to take it over, but you
- 10:36Speaker 2: know what he's done He's talked about it twenty five
- 10:40Speaker 2: years from now what it could be. So the discussion
- 10:43Speaker 2: right now isn't whether Hamas is good or bad. He
- 10:47Speaker 2: is asking people to look way past that and think
- 10:52Speaker 2: of what it could be. Remember, Lebanon was phenomenal in
- 10:56Speaker 2: the prior century before it was taken over by has
- 11:00Speaker 2: the Law and the others, right, it was a glorious place.
- 11:04Speaker 2: I have a good friend who's from there, and it
- 11:08Speaker 2: reverted with what happened to a very bad place. So
- 11:12Speaker 2: what Trump is doing is saying, stop thinking about what
- 11:16Speaker 2: you know this fighter and that block and think and
- 11:20Speaker 2: have a visiting for the future. And he's telling the
- 11:23Speaker 2: people in the area that we can do much better
- 11:26Speaker 2: than the old paradigm.
- 11:29Speaker 1: I have missed your inspiration. It's it's just good to
- 11:33Speaker 1: talk to you. I really seriously. Sometimes when I know
- 11:36Speaker 1: we've got a whole bunch of time, maybe we can
- 11:38Speaker 1: do a whole hour together. Are you on anywhere tonight,
- 11:40Speaker 1: Fox News, Max, anything like that, or you get to get.
- 11:42Speaker 2: A old no no tonight. I'm taking it easy. I've
- 11:45Speaker 2: actually had a lot of work to do. I'm trying
- 11:46Speaker 2: to cut back from last year. I did over six
- 11:48Speaker 2: hundred radio shows and TV shows worldwide last year, so
- 11:52Speaker 2: I'm going a little bit slower. You are my only
- 11:56Speaker 2: one today.
- 11:57Speaker 1: The legend that is miss oh you goodness. Well that's
- 12:01Speaker 1: very sweet of you, by the way, and and and
- 12:03Speaker 1: again I met what I said at the intro here, Uh,
- 12:05Speaker 1: congratulations on the nuptials.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Uh.
- 12:07Speaker 1: At every picture I see of you guys together, you're glowing,
- 12:10Speaker 1: your smiling, and I am very happy for you. I
- 12:13Speaker 1: really am. I'm glad to see uh, glad to see
- 12:15Speaker 1: that event in your life.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, blast, it's been a long time coming. And
- 12:21Speaker 2: uh yeah, well it's quite a high. And congratulations to
- 12:25Speaker 2: you too.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Thank you. I did it on Christmas Eve. I can't
- 12:27Speaker 1: believe it took me this long to get it right.
- 12:29Speaker 2: And uh.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a wonderful thing. The website is Tom
- 12:35Speaker 1: Dell right, tomdal dot com.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Yeah, Tomdell dot com absolutely c O. M.
- 12:40Speaker 1: D E. L dot com. Go go read, uh, pick
- 12:44Speaker 1: up a copy of the Divided Area, Divided Era if
- 12:47Speaker 1: you haven't read that before. Uh and uh, and the
- 12:49Speaker 1: new book is what is it, Lessons.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Of America The Lessons of the American Civilization, which is
- 12:55Speaker 2: really applicable today, the dangers of centralized government and how
- 13:00Speaker 2: those in power try to hold on to it.
- 13:03Speaker 1: All right, Sir Tom deble Carl, thank you so much.
- 13:05Speaker 1: We will talk again very very soon, all right
- 13:08Speaker 2: Take care, thank you, Conny,