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How Environmental Toxins and Plastics Are Driving Chronic Illness with Dr. Miles Nichols · Non-Toxic Living

• 0:00
  There's a ton of plastic. There's microplastics and there's nanoplastics. These can be non-visible, super, super small. And these nanoplastics are problematic because they can accumulate in the body. They're not just passing through. Some people might be surprised to know the extent of this.
• 0:16
  like when they measure urine. Some of the papers, one paper showed that... When we're talking about not heating up your plastic containers, when we're talking about not wearing polyester clothes, not just absorption in the BPA and the chemicals, all the stuff that absorbs it on your skin, that the plastic alone is enough for you not to wear it. When these microplastics embed themselves into your brain tissue, what do you think their main mechanism of action that's causing disease? Is it hormone dysregulation? Is it inflammation? What's happening? So it's not just...
• 0:45
  that we're exposed it's not just that it's accumulating it's actually that dr miles brother welcome to the show uh we've developed a great friendship um with ola and uh you guys are just great humans you have great hearts and i'm so honored to have you here you're a wealth of knowledge a brilliant human
• 1:09
  You're in for a special treat today with Dr. Miles. We're going to hone in on one of your favorite topics. I'm not going to say what that is. The intro probably did already, but let's hear a little bit about your history and how you wound up in this natural health space, helping people from all over the world.
• 1:26
  Yeah, and Warren, it's great to see you again. Love connecting. And we had a great conversation last time we chatted about a different topic. Yeah. Got a little controversy, and that's always fun about sweeteners. Now- It helps the ratings. Yeah.
• 1:41
  Now, how I got into this, I'll just keep it brief and give a little bit of the backstory. I grew up with a father who, he was a doctor and he had a master's in public health. He taught at the medical school, public health. And so I was surrounded with health growing up as a focus and service. My mom was a social worker and my dad became interested in public service and became a state legislator and then...
• 2:08
  a state senator and he really wanted to help people so he was trying to get legislation passed to give health care to the working poor but it couldn't get passed in the legislature in the senate so he decided to do as an initiative so i remember i'm in the car this is tucson arizona this is like
• 2:26
  hundred and some degrees outside. It's really hot. AC is blasting in the car and yet I'm sweating. And we're pulling up to this house and I'm like, do we have to dad? And he's like, yeah, we do. And I'm like, but I don't even know these people. We're going to go knock on their door. We're going to ask them for a signature. This seems weird to me. And he's like, yeah, well, we have to do
• 2:51
  piece of legislation on the ballot because I can't get it done any other way. And I said, well, why don't we have other people do it? We have lots of volunteers, lots of people who are helping. And he said, you know, if we're going to ask people to volunteer and do this, we got to be willing to do it ourselves. So I got this lesson and I'm...
• 3:07
  You know, he asked me if I know the script, I go up and ask for a signature for this Healthy Arizona Initiative that's going to take tobacco lottery tax money and put it into a pool and make it available for the working poor who wouldn't otherwise be eligible for health care. And what inspired me about this kind of situation is that I grew up with a father who led by example and showed me that we can change the world. And when I was 15, I was babysitting for a friend of my
• 3:38
  It was Claudia from church. She said, something's happened. It's your father. And he was only 64 at the time. Just a couple of weeks before that, we were looking at cars because my 16th birthday was coming up. He wanted to help get my first car. Now he was gone and he had passed suddenly and unexpectedly and just
• 3:59
  Shortly before that, he had called my mom and he said, I think this job is going to kill me. And none of us knew that that actually was going to happen. But.
• 4:09
  That sent me into this very big dilemma. He had medical training from Stanford. He had a master's in public health from Harvard. He had the top-notch medical training. He was under care of cardiologists, and yet he passed suddenly and unexpectedly. We didn't see it coming. That was concerning to me for a number of reasons. It creates a big gap. Yeah. Yeah. Huge problem.
• 4:36
  Yeah. So it led me through a lot of internal work, internal processing. I had to work on my own process around that. And then it led me into all these questions like, why didn't we see it coming? What is happening here with the chronic health epidemic? Why are people like my father passing on early where he was 64, he was a state senator, he was doing amazing work in the world. There was so much more
• 5:03
  that could have good, that could have come, even 10 years after his passing, we went in the garage, we pulled out these awards. There were over 200 awards, you know, from like the disabled peoples of Arizona, thank Andy Nichols for this. And the, you know, the humane borders, thank Andy Nichols for that. And it was just thing after thing after thing. And I realized, wow, how much good could he have done if he had another 10 years, another 20 years?
• 5:31
  Yeah. So if he was still around today, I can only imagine what good could have come because he was at the pinnacle of his career and he was doing such good. So I've kind of made it my mission to try to figure out as best I can to dedicate my life to figuring out how can I prevent that for myself and my family someday? I don't want tragedy like that. And how can I help others and their families to not have those kinds of tragedies? How can we...
• 5:57
  extend life healthfully. And so I'm working a lot with people on what I call the Live Long, Die Strong program, which is how do we help people to live long, healthy lives, to stay strong into their older years. And a big part of that comes down to the world we're living in today. It comes down to inflammation, toxins. It comes down to exposures and things we're going to get
• 6:27
  We'd like to kind of focus on here at Non-Toxic Living, thinking about non-toxic living, some takeaways and really expose some of these lies. And I know one, we decided, and there's many things you could talk about, we could talk about, but something we're both passionate about right now is the microplastic, nanoplastic epidemic that we're seeing. Because plastics are everywhere. Now they're in our air and they're in our water and they're showing up.
• 6:53
  everywhere in our bodies now that the technology is there to measure and the studies are coming out showing inflammation heart attacks this stuff is dangerous it's in our brains it's lowering sperm counts it's doing all kinds of crazy things in the world so i want to extract some of that wisdom to really drill down into a nail down this is in fact a big part of the inflammation issue that we're having and how we can push for change thinking of change in honor of your dad actually
• 7:22
  Yeah, thanks. And I don't think it's a surprise to anyone to know that there's a ton of plastic in the world today. I mean, so what? Right. So what? Why do we care about that? Well, when you're talking about microplastics, there's microplastics and there's nanoplastics. Right. And so we can say microplastics are plastics that are maybe the size of like a
• 7:45
  pencil eraser five millimeters all the way down to uh like a a nan micro meters to a micrometer and then even in nanometers even you know when it gets under a thousand
• 8:00
  nanometers which are micrometer then we call it a nanoplastic right and these can be non-visible super super small and these nanoplastics are problematic because they can accumulate in the body they're not just passing through so we have concern called bioaccumulation where the body accumulates and some people might be surprised to know the extent of this like when they measure urine for example urinary excretion when they collect urine over a week's time
• 8:31
  Some of the papers, one paper showed that it was around five grams of microplastics excreted in the urine per week. That's a lot. That's about the weight of a credit card. Yeah. Per week. So it's almost like eating a credit card worth of plastic a week.
• 8:52
  that much coming out in the urine, except that the plastic is so small that is coming out that we know that not all of it's coming out. And a lot of it is actually accumulating in tissue. In fact, there was a study recently that looked at brains in autopsies.
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  So they were doing autopsies and they were looking at brains, livers and kidneys, all of those organs. All of those three had plastics, which is alarming. And where was the most? By far, by far the most was in the brain. By 10 to 20 times as much as in the other organs. And not only that, but of the 91 people who were autopsied, 12 had dementia.
• 9:41
  And if you took those 12 and you looked at their brain concentration microplastics as compared to all the ones without dementia, there was about a not just a little bit more, but about a 10 times.
• 9:57
  the number of microplastics in those brains for people who died from dementia. So we have to wonder now. Yeah. To what extent, to what extent is the microplastic playing a role in actual outcomes? Like, so what if it's accumulating? Well, you know,
• 10:13
  Is it causing... This is a correlative study. We can't say right now that it's causing, but you got to wonder when 10 times as much microplastic on average is found in these 12 autopsied brains that had dementia versus the rest of the autopsied brains that did not. And you also have to wonder, there's another study, fascinating one, where they took carotid artery.
• 10:36
  plaque. And they're scraping out the carotid artery plaque. There's a procedure they'll do for people who are getting a lot of plaque accumulation. And researchers decided, okay, let's see. Let's see in the plaque, in the plaque that's from the carotid artery, how...
• 10:51
  how much microplastic is in that plaque. And the ones that they found significantly, statistically significant amounts of microplastic versus the ones that they didn't, where you had the same, if you factored for the researchers basically said, okay, if we have the same total amount of plaque, which we would expect to have the same risk, cardiovascular wise, however,
• 11:12
  If you have more microplastic in that same amount of plaque, the risk for cardio events when they're following these people increased significantly. Yeah, that that was a strong correlation. Very strong. Yeah. So it's not just that we're exposed. It's not just that it's accumulating. It's actually that it's becoming very clear, very clear that the big killers of today
• 11:39
  cardiovascular illness, neurodegenerative disease, and things we haven't talked about yet, infertility and many other problems, have a relationship, potentially at least, and the evidence is growing and becoming stronger, with microplastics creating worse outcomes.
• 11:59
  Yeah, this is a huge topic for me because I have little girls, right? And you know how much I love my children. And, you know, it's a constant battle when your daughter grows and nothing fits her and she's wearing polyester. I literally get sick. Like, please, honey, I'll, you know, we can get you organic stuff, you know, and we have. It's just my oldest. And she's going to probably listen to this podcast. And, Daddy, you talked about me.
• 12:27
  The littles are easy, right? And she's doing great. You can't lord over them, but when I see that on them, I get heart sick because I've read these same studies. And by the way, well said. You can read literature and spit it back out. Very few people have that gift because that's actually...
• 12:45
  really hard to do. Like, I wouldn't be able to do that yet. Right. And I've read a lot of literature, but you, you speak of it in a way that I think everyone here could understand. So really well done. Well done. And I think the point was really made that my concerns are real. Your concerns are real. Why do I get so scared with my daughter's
• 13:05
  having anything polyester why have i i don't wear it i mean i just literally threw it away because i kept it because it was so expensive i'm like this is expensive plastic you know that i own i gotta get rid of this shit you know but i didn't want to get rid of it because it cost me so much money it's weird but i'm not wearing it and it's like hoarding plastic i'm a plastic hoarder we've just got i just admitted that so now i gotta hold myself accountable actually i did
• 13:29
  I have it all in the, and I have a video coming about this. So this is definitely near and dear to my heart. And it is, I believe, linked, at least linked to neurodegenerative conditions, linked heavily to infertility. And the study is very clear and to being linked to heart disease. And there's lots of folks are suffering with this. So when we're talking about not heating up your plastic containers, when we're talking about not wearing polyester clothes, not just absorption in the BPA and the chemicals and the...
• 13:58
  all the stuff that absorbed on your skin, that the plastic alone is enough for you not to wear it. The putting it in your dryer and creating microplastic dust in your home, that's enough not to wear polyester, right? Because these credit cards worth of plastic a week and more now are documented. And this is scary. So what do you believe is,
• 14:21
  and I may know some of this answer, but not all of it, when these microplastics embed themselves into your brain tissue, right? When they embed themselves in the arteries and may be the cause of plaquing, when they're literally getting embedded into men's testicles, right? The other study, we haven't talked about the testy study yet. What do you think they're,
• 14:43
  their main mechanism of action that's causing disease? Is it hormone dysregulation? Is it inflammation? What is it? What's happening?
• 14:53
  Well, it's funny. I was talking to my brother about this very topic and he said, yeah, you know, the other day I was wondering, is it 2023 or 2024? And then he's like, so maybe it's happening to my brain. You know, it's it's interesting because there are chemicals, there are chemicals in plastics that we do know absolutely play a role.
• 15:15
  And we know, so of course, I think a lot of people have heard of BPA, bisphenol A, and some people have heard of phthalates and their PFAs, the PFAS are these forever chemicals. I think people have heard of some of these chemicals. And if you haven't, then I'm not going to bore you with the details. It's very easy to look up these chemicals and some of what the backstory is. But the...
• 15:36
  We know that many of these chemicals are what we call endocrine disruptors. So they disrupt parts of the function of hormones in the body. And that's very clear. And that's part of this infertility question when they are, it is pretty, when they do look at, for example, semen in males. And the more...
• 15:57
  the more semen samples have plastics in them, and the more plastics are associated with worse semen quality, meaning less fertile semen. And so we certainly see both with males and females, we see with egg quality as well, that microplastics have a relationship. And so we know that parts of those relationship have to do with the chemicals. And we can measure chemicals in urine. So we can look at urinary excretion of chemicals
• 16:26
  Bisphenol A or BPA, for example. So we can get a sense for how much of certain chemicals the problem is. People will put out BPA-free products, and yet those products may still have phthalates. They may have other chemicals that may be equally problematic or even more problematic. Yeah, another bisphenol. Yeah. Yeah. So it gets really...
• 16:47
  It gets really difficult to know exactly what the causes are, but there are multiple mechanisms in these mechanisms. Chemicals are one of them. And then there are other mechanisms that are probably at play with how plastics interface with the immune function and an inflammatory response from the immune system. It's sort of like if you were to... The metaphor is like if you were to
• 17:11
  to sort of be trying to clean up something. You sometimes have to make a bigger mess in order to clean it up. So you have to reorganize, where am I gonna put it? And as you get more and more accumulation of stuff in your home, where are you gonna put it? Where are you gonna put it? How you have to start reorganizing, pulling things out, doing a lot of stuff. Body is similar. There's housekeeping that happens in the body. And the immune function is trying to say, hey,
• 17:37
  we've got this excess, this burden, this bioaccumulation, we can't get rid of it fast enough, it's coming in too quickly, where are we gonna put it? The problem is blood-brain barrier is not unfortunately able to filter microplastics. So as it's circulating through the blood, we're gonna see that these are too small. They're so small that they'll get through the blood-brain barrier, which is supposed to protect the brain from things like microplastics.
• 18:04
  And what we know is that as microplastics cross that blood brain barrier and start to accumulate in the brain, that we do see recruitment of immune function macrophages that become these microglial cells that activate. And these cells activate in the brain. And then there are a lot of what we call cytokines, immune or inflammatory proteins. And we see what we call neuroinflammation as a result.
• 18:32
  This neuroinflammation has been linked to not only neurodegenerative diseases, but there's also links with mental health problems. And mental health problems are significant today. We have almost over one in five with a significant mental...adults in the US with significant mental health issue each year. And children, adolescents are...it's growing so much that a lifetime incidence in adolescence has exceeded half.
• 19:01
  Yeah, come on, we need to figure this out. Yeah, yeah. So when we're looking at anxiety, when we're looking at depression, when we're looking at brain fog, when we're looking at difficulty recalling words, when we're looking at challenges with balance, when we're looking at all of these brain symptoms, we have to think, okay, what are the causes for neuroinflammation?
• 19:21
  It's not just microplastics. There are infections. There are other environmental toxins, mold and other. Actually, there's a bacteria in the home, gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria that a lot of people aren't talking about who are talking about mold. Or measuring, yeah. Yeah. But they can be measured. We can measure and look at these bacteria levels in the home, and we're finding them to be immune triggers as well. So...
• 19:43
  We have this, what we call bioaccumulation, this bioaccumulation of varying kinds of toxins, microplastics, nanoplastics, mycotoxins from mold. We have these extracellular vesicles from certain bacteria passing toxin direct into the cells. We have these endotoxins from gram-negative bacteria like the bopolisaccharide. And all of these are, it's overburdening the body's capacity to get rid of them fast enough.
• 20:12
  for the exposure. So if we don't- Then you gotta store them away. Yeah. Store them in your fat tissues, livers, just put them in cells because they can't get rid of them. Yeah. That's a beautiful way of saying it. And people wonder about- It's a gross way of saying it, but yeah. Well, people wonder about gaining weight and having a hard time losing weight. And it's like, well, maybe some of that adipose tissue is a better place than your brain or other organs to store these toxins. So maybe sometimes, I've had patients, I had a patient, she was really struggling and doing all the dietary and lifestyle stuff.
• 20:41
  And she was actually gaining weight on organic, paleo, lots of diet lifestyle, lots of supplements. And what we discovered is the bioaccumulation of toxin from environment was so much that once we removed some of that exposure and helped her body to detoxify, that she started finally to lose weight. And my theory, I don't have research to prove this, is that there's probably this...
• 21:06
  defense mechanism of like, hey, adipose tissue is better than the brain, is better than other place. Let's put it in the fat. And losing fat might not be a good idea until we can reduce the exposure and reduce the accumulation a little. I've seen that over and over again when I was working with clinics. It's a strong theory, right? I don't know how we test it. But sometimes back in the day, you know, we'd work with people and it's like, we need to
• 21:33
  you know, let's clean up your environment first, because if we detox you or you start losing weight with fasting or paleo, whatever, keto, if that's the modality that the practitioner was choosing, these people would get sick because you're pushing fat or it was the body protecting itself. I think the body's brilliant. I think if you give it
• 21:55
  Any type of the right energy, whether it's positivity, gratefulness, removing toxins from its life, it responds really well because it wants to survive. Would you say like as an idea, isn't diabetes just a natural reaction of its survival mechanism in some respects?
• 22:13
  Cancer, maybe. I don't know. I'm just saying it always wants to survive. And I don't want to get off on that topic, but I just think it's a good point that it does want to survive and thrive. Yeah, I believe that the body is actively working towards the best way it can to deal with...
• 22:34
  all of the stuff. And that's mental, emotional, spiritual, as well as physiological and environmental. And all of those together, plus conditioning and cultural things, and there's a lot that we could put into the equation if we're taking a really big picture view on this, we can say that
• 22:52
  the body is doing the best it can in the circumstances and situation that it's in. And that when we can reduce exposures, when we can work mental, emotional, spiritual side, when we can do gratitude practices, stress management, good sleep, all these basic things, sometimes that's not enough. Sometimes we need more. But oftentimes the body starts
• 23:16
  to naturally heal when the conditions are right for that. And so a lot of the work, like you're saying in the clinic, is to make sure that we're reducing enough the obstacles to healing. It's sort of like the healing is the natural way of the body. And there are a lot of obstacles that we're trying to reduce in order to allow the body to do what it naturally does so well. And it's...
• 23:39
  Your dad was a medical doctor. Yeah. Would you say Harvard trained or Stanford or? Stanford Medical School and Harvard Master in Public Health. And, you know, through all the science and research, I don't know where it's come from, but the body can heal message.
• 23:55
  has been kind of like stricken from the history books, right? I don't know if it was, you know, you can read books. It was Rockefeller who put these things in place to drive the economic engine that's somehow linked to petrochemicals. There's a lot of conspiracies around this, but the fact remains, nobody is giving people hope besides folks like you and others that are in this natural health movement, which politically is being named woo-woo,
• 24:22
  And there's nothing woo-woo about it, right? Functional medicine is exploding because folks are fed up of not healing and being infertile. And you can talk to anybody. Like I talk to anyone on the street. They know that we're being poisoned. They don't know what they need to do about it. They know that there's microplastics. Like you said at the beginning of this show, I think everybody...
• 24:44
  knows about microplastics at this point. It is mainstream media. I had a major news channel reach out to me about it, right? I believe it was microplastic. Yes, it was. I watched one of my videos on Instagram and they want to do an interview because I have a, believe it or not, even though I come off hard, I have a balanced approach. I'm going to allow my kids to go out. And if my daughter wears polyester once, I'm not going to, well, I might lose a little sleep over it. But at the end of the day,
• 25:12
  You got to let people grow and learn. And society wants to grow and learn right now. They want the truth. They want answers and that our bodies can heal when these obstacles are removed. So it was beautifully said. Love what you shared. I've never heard a better explanation of the toxic effects of microplastics. Quoting literature, this was a fantastic conversation. And how I want to end it, because it's such a concise show that I think a lot of people are going to watch this, listen to this and share this.
• 25:42
  with others because it was you did so well with this but if you could have the ability right i always like to say it's non-toxic living is this it's mental emotional spiritual we have different inhalation absorption ingestion we have toxic frequencies from emf right we have our mindset there's all these different categories of toxins but on this show i always like to ask an expert such as yourself if there is a toxin that you could
• 26:07
  pull from the world and it would have a huge impact. What would you say that would be? Thank you for bringing up the hope piece too, because, and, and, and working to end this in a place of action and that we can do some things because it can get depressing. I know for me sometimes to think about the levels of exposure and the potential health detriment and how are we ever going to get away from plastics. And so I, I really appreciate that. And, and there's a,
• 26:37
  There are a lot of people who aren't going to actually be understanding the science and the data here. But there is a lot of data. There is a lot of science. And there is a lot of advanced diagnostic lab testing on things like gene expression. We actually see gene expression change. So one of the toxins... So, I mean, obviously, if we can remove...
• 26:59
  micro nanoplastics great we can't yeah we're never going to we can make steps so tap water even in the us is pretty bad you know and bottled water is even worse so it's loaded millions of microplastics yeah so the one easy simple step is just to to get a reverse osmosis filter and maybe some remineralization filter after that to to remove and drink that out of non-plastic but um it's just
• 27:24
  We won't go into all the details of that. I'm sure you have plenty of content about things like that. Just water. I mean, think sharing more solutions. Yeah. You know, I mean, yeah. So we have our toxin of choice. And so our water. And yes, people will write in and say, well, there's another study that there might be nanoplastics.
• 27:41
  From the RO membrane. So then you got to do it distilled. But it's a lot less of a microplastic load overall. You might be getting a few nanoplastics that your body. You can't avoid it. Yeah, that can come out. So this is just, it's not perfect, folks, because I have the, you know, perfectionist detox, you know, experts that want to be perfect. And we all try. But so what are some other, I think it's great to talk about other solutions. Yeah. So the gene expression testing that I was bringing up, we see.
• 28:08
  I've done a lot of gene expression testing for people, and this is very advanced testing. This is some of the latest and greatest in what we call transcriptomics. This is actually the transcription that genes transcribe proteins, and these proteins have significant effects and impacts, positive and negative, in the body. So for example, we'll see that there's a whole panel of coagulation genes and other genes related to Parkinson's now, and there's good data about showing that Parkinson's
• 28:36
  has a gene expression pattern that looks like this and I've seen people now in their 30s Expressing what looks like it will potentially become park it's very similar to a Parkinson's gene expression There before they're exhibiting any symptoms and we can make changes and actually have made changes and seen these genes that were turned up turned down and we can see these changes from the
• 29:01
  Toxin exposure changes. So when we talk about environmental toxin patterns, there are patterns of specific toxins that show different gene expression changes. So for example, mold shows a lot of what we call apoptosis gene expression, which is the apoptosis is cell death.
• 29:19
  We also see that endotoxins from gram-negative bacteria or endotoxins in the environment that people are breathing in express a lot of what we call toll-like receptors, which are this very problematic part of genes that relate to inflammation. And there's these gram-positive bacteria called actinomycetes. And there are a couple of these that have shown gene expression in what we call MAP kinase upregulation and TGF-beta receptors. So TGF-beta is another inflammatory.
• 29:49
  protein. And the biggest one that I see is, and that the stats are showing right now in this gene expression testing is the actinomycetes, which are a gram positive bacteria, different than mold, but they can live in the environment and they can grow in water damage. And there are big problem in homes and there are problem in homes where mold isn't. And there are problem in homes where mold is. And...
• 30:13
  we can measure them in the dust and we can reduce exposure. And that reduction of exposure already changes gene expression. There are several other steps that we need to do to fully change gene expression in all the ways that help people to recover from a chronic inflammatory response. But this one, aside from micro-nanoplastics, actinomycetes is one that I really would like people to know about and understand better.
• 30:38
  that it plays a big role in environmental exposure. And that's a new one that I was just exposed to because we have that Homesick Home series, and we were interviewing all these home experts and building biologists, and they measure for that in dust samples. And it can be a real big issue. So I'm glad that you brought that up.
• 30:58
  And not just dust samples, but also skin samples. So we'll measure in the dust and then if there's an elevation, and especially if someone's gene expression looks like it's activated due to actinos, then we do a skin sample. And the skin sample, actually, there are a couple of species that habitat on the skin so people can carry it around on their skin. And so then we have a skin sample as well as a dust sample in order to see if that's an issue for people.
• 31:26
  Man, that's heavy stuff. All the latest science, these transcriptome testing. Transcriptomics. Yeah, it's newer. Yeah. Yeah, because we talk about gene expression even five years ago, and people thought, ah, you know, triggering genes. I mean, even though Michael J. Fox talked about it and many others, but now there's testing to back it up. So it's a great place to end that there is testing. This is testing.
• 31:51
  If this stuff is affecting you, there are solutions. There are individuals like yourself and testing companies that are stepping up to the plate to protect not just what's inside of your skin, but your second skin, which is your home, which needs to be safe. And that's why I really look at cleaning up. So when we're talking about detox...
• 32:12
  Guys, everyone listening, gals, you have to, I think one of the big takeaways that you brought up is you have to lessen the load. Yes, you can, taking detoxification products are great and they can help move things out. But the biggest thing, don't miss it.
• 32:29
  that was shared here today. You have to lower your exposure so that your body can handle it. So it's not storing it and putting it away where it's causing inflammatory markers to rise, gene expression to go out of whack leading to disease. And then the last one, obviously these chemicals or endocrine disruptors that are loaded up in these microplastics. So that's an amazing...
• 32:52
  an amazing way to really increase your awareness and understanding how toxins bioaccumulate in your body. So thank you so much, Dr. Miles. And again, I'd just like to end by saying that, you know, I truly believe at this point, fully full conviction that if I had known,
• 33:13
  what I know now and been able to do the kind of testing that we can do now for my father a few years before his passing. I truly believe that he could have had many more years that we could have seen people who are doing really, really good work in the world.
• 33:31
  extend that work. And to me, it's the people who are passionate and impactful and are purposeful and doing this really big work in the world that I really want to see having more time and being able to do that work. So there is hope. That's the greatest takeaway. There is hope. That you did, you ended on the biggest takeaway. And in honor of your dad, I hope this is shared because there's a lot of good people out there.
• 33:56
  like your father. And there is a lot of hope that are looking to help humanity and help the downtrodden the right way, right? And making a massive difference in this world. So we'll dedicate this podcast to him. And thank you so much, Dr. Miles, for your time. Appreciate it.