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Has A Weekend Of Upsets Given Ohio State An Easier Playoff Path? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyees tomorrow morning for Tuesday and November twelfth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, tom Or. The Northwestern game is in
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  Speaker 1: four days, the game against Michigan in eighteen days. The
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  Speaker 1: second week of the college Football Playoff rankings will come
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  Speaker 1: out a little later on tonight. We're going to do
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a preview, a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a look ahead at what things could look like after
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  Speaker 1: a weekend with some big upsets. You're doing that with
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  Speaker 1: a Buddy, Tony Gerderman Buckeheadle dot com. Tony, I know
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  Speaker 1: you're every bit as excited as I am. Every year
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  Speaker 1: there's a week when there's a basketball game, and so
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  Speaker 1: the college football Playoff ranking show starts much later than
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  Speaker 1: usual eight thirty pm tonight, Tony, can you believe it?
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  Speaker 1: And part two of the question can you wait?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yes, and I have no choice. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure you can apply either of those answers to either
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  Speaker 2: of those questions. It's unfortunate that should be done at
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  Speaker 2: four to fifteen late, no later than four to fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just get it done, let's talk about it, let's
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  Speaker 2: get after it. We've got things to do.
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  Speaker 1: We do have to do, and so, because we don't
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  Speaker 1: want to make you guys wait, we're going to do
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  Speaker 1: a run through what the bracket would look like after
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  Speaker 1: last weekend based on the Associated Press Top twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: We will get the College Football Playoff Top twenty five
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  Speaker 1: a little later on tonight. But last week the College
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  Speaker 1: Football Playoff Top twelve was I think identical or very
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  Speaker 1: very similar to the AP Top twenty five. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: just run through that and use that as sort of
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  Speaker 1: an instructive look at what could be coming later on tonight.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll just run through it right now. The AP
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  Speaker 1: Top twenty five this week number one, Oregon number two,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State number three, Texas number four, Penn State number five, Indiana,
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  Speaker 1: Yes four Big ten teams in the top five number six,
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee number seven, BYU number eight, Notre Dame number nine,
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  Speaker 1: Alabama number ten, Ole, Miss number eleven, Georgia number twelve,
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  Speaker 1: Miami number thirteen, Boise State number fourteen, SMU number fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: Texas A and M number sixteen, Army number seventeen, Clubs
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  Speaker 1: and number eighteen, Colorado number nineteen, Washington State number twenty,
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  Speaker 1: Kansas State number twenty one, LSU number twenty two, Louisville,
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  Speaker 1: number twenty three, South Carolina, number twenty four Missouri, number
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  Speaker 1: twenty five tu Lane. All right, so here's where the
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  Speaker 1: format of this year's playoff gets interesting. Because Georgia came
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  Speaker 1: into the year as broadly considered one of, if not
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  Speaker 1: the national championship favorites. They just lost to Ole, miss
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight to ten. They're number eleven in the AP
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  Speaker 1: pole right now, so you would certainly assume they'll be
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  Speaker 1: in the twelve team playoff. Right Not so fast, my friends,
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  Speaker 1: because number twelve Miami and number thirteen Boise State are
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  Speaker 1: the leading contenders to be the champions of two of
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  Speaker 1: those conferences, so they would both get in there. Georgia
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  Speaker 1: would be the first team out right now based on
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  Speaker 1: the AP pole. Obviously a lot of football still left
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  Speaker 1: to play, but boy would not have expected that earlier
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  Speaker 1: in the year. So the field as it's laid out.
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  Speaker 1: Number one Oregon, number two Texas, number three BYU, number
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  Speaker 1: four Miami. Those are all the top four conference champions.
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  Speaker 1: Number five Ohio State, number six, Penn State, number seven,
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  Speaker 1: Indiana at number eight, Tennessee number nine, Notre Dame number ten,
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  Speaker 1: Alabama at number eleven, Ole Miss and number twelve Boise State.
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  Speaker 1: So what does that mean? Means the first round of
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  Speaker 1: the games would be number twelve Boise State at number five,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, number nine, Notre Dame at number eight, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: number eleven, Ole Miss at number six, Penn State, and
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  Speaker 1: number ten Alabama at number seven Indiana, Tony, don't you
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  Speaker 1: hate how predictable college football is getting? I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: such a cliche. Number ten Alabama playing a playoff game
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  Speaker 1: in Bloomington, Indiana. Can we please see something different?
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  Speaker 2: My goodness, how many times do we have to watch this?
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  Speaker 2: It's the same thing every year. I do think one
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  Speaker 2: of the interesting points about Georgia being out of things
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  Speaker 2: right now is that to argue for them to be
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  Speaker 2: in you'd have to have them jump Ole Miss who
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  Speaker 2: they lost to, or Alabama who they lost to. So
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  Speaker 2: they really have no path in until they beat Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: and then it all becomes a quagmire again. But every
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  Speaker 2: time we do these, you just look at these, You
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  Speaker 2: see the logos and you're like, yes, yes, I'll take
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  Speaker 2: one of those, Give me that one. I it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to believe there will be three Big Ten teams hosting
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  Speaker 2: playoff games but you know, I don't think anybody would
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  Speaker 2: object at least yet.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think you're probably not going to get three
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  Speaker 1: Big Ten teams hosting because the Ohio State Indiana loser
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  Speaker 1: is going to have. If Indiana loses, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: drop from the seventh seed, and you're probably going to
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  Speaker 1: drop at least a couple spots, and they don't have
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  Speaker 1: a big signature win potentially waiting for them, and then
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  Speaker 1: they potentially would not play in the Big Ten championship game.
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  Speaker 1: So if it's Indiana losing, they probably don't slide down
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  Speaker 1: that much. If Ohio State loses, they might slide down,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a couple spots. You could potentially slide out
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  Speaker 1: of a Big Ten or a home playoff game if
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  Speaker 1: you lose to Indiana. So we'll see how that all
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  Speaker 1: shakes out. It obviously is going to be changing quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit as we move forward. As you said, Georgia Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be a big one, but there are
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  Speaker 1: plenty of other big games and then the conference championship games.
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  Speaker 1: How are those going to impact things? That's all kind
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  Speaker 1: of a mystery. Will Notre Dame be able to beat
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  Speaker 1: Army if Notre Dame beats Army Boy, that puts them
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  Speaker 1: in for sure. If they lose, they're probably out at
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  Speaker 1: that point because you're probably you know, they have not
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  Speaker 1: had a great schedule this year, and so we'll see
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  Speaker 1: if they if they can hang in there. The second
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  Speaker 1: round games, the Ohio State and Boise State winner will
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  Speaker 1: play Miami that will be in the Peach Bowl noon
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  Speaker 1: on New Year's Day. The Notre Dame Tennessee winner would
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  Speaker 1: play Oregon in the Rose Bowl late afternoon on New
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  Speaker 1: Year's Day. The Ole Miss penn State winner would play
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  Speaker 1: BYU in the Fiesta Bowl on New Year's Eve. Boy
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  Speaker 1: like an Ole Miss BYU. That feels really spiritually like
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  Speaker 1: a game that should be played on New Year's Eve.
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  Speaker 1: Two fan bases who are probably going to celebrate New
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  Speaker 1: Year's Eve very differently. And Alabama Indiana winner playing Texas
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  Speaker 1: that would be in the Sugar Bowl on New Year's Day.
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  Speaker 1: It's I look at the first round and I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a bunch of good matchups between different conference teams
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  Speaker 1: that would be really exciting and really even in the
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  Speaker 1: second round if this is how it does shake out,
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  Speaker 1: the only potential matchup of two conference teams would be
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  Speaker 1: Alabama and Texas in the Sugar Bowl, and that's two
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  Speaker 1: teams that have not played in the same conference for
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  Speaker 1: more than three months or so. You know, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: this is not necessarily exactly the path that Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: fans would choose, but that's a pretty intriguing second round
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  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, although I'm sure Ohio State fans would always enjoy
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  Speaker 2: playing against Miami. But Cam Moore and that quarterback has
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  Speaker 2: to concern you because of what we know he can do,
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  Speaker 2: but he also can turn it over and give you,
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  Speaker 2: guys a give your team a chance, but they're almost
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  Speaker 2: never done, They're almost never finished. Still keep fighting, which
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  Speaker 2: is it's an it's an improvement of the culture there
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  Speaker 2: for sure. I think Notre Dame or Tennessee in the
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  Speaker 2: Rose Bull against Oregon. You've got some fantastic uniforms there
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  Speaker 2: that what would uh and and really the way Notre
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  Speaker 2: Dame is playing right now, I'd be I'd be interested
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  Speaker 2: to see what their defense could do against Oregon and
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  Speaker 2: what their running game can do, because I I you know,
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  Speaker 2: right now Notre Dame's playing well. I don't know that
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  Speaker 2: they're necessarily playing anybody, but I think they're playing better
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  Speaker 2: than Tennessee is and we'll see what Tennessee does this weekend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I if you're if this is the matchup, I'm picking
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  Speaker 2: Alabama over Indiana based on what we've seen from both teams,
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  Speaker 2: especially finally seeing what we saw from Indiana. So uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's not a bad quarter final again in
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  Speaker 2: Alabama Texas showdown again? And would that be is that
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  Speaker 2: the nightcap? What time was that game?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the New Year's Day night game, So in order,
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  Speaker 1: it would be the BYU game, the Miami game, the
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  Speaker 1: Oregon game, and the Texas game. That's the order because
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  Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl is on New Year's Eve, Peach Bowl is
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  Speaker 1: noon on New Year's Day, and then Rose Bowl late afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: and then the Sugar Bowl at night.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a noon game, so you know Ohio State's
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  Speaker 2: going to be playing in it.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna sell that game to Fox just so that
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  Speaker 1: Gus and Jewel can call one more Ohio State game
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  Speaker 1: to start the twenty twenty five calendar year. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll bring such a joy. Ohio State will
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  Speaker 1: be very experienced playing in noon games at that point
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  Speaker 1: if they get there. I look at of all the
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  Speaker 1: teams on this bracket, the team that I look at
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  Speaker 1: and then I think this team has the biggest broadest
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  Speaker 1: spectrum of possible outcomes is Penn State, because, boy, if
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  Speaker 1: Penn State loses to Ole Miss, the whole narrative around
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  Speaker 1: their season is once again, James Franklin can't win the
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  Speaker 1: big one. He can't win to Pede Ohio State. He
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  Speaker 1: loses in the first round of the playoff at home.
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  Speaker 1: If they get through that, you probably like their chances
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  Speaker 1: against BYU. So then if they get through the first game,
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  Speaker 1: then they're probably playing in the playoff semi finals. Then
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  Speaker 1: it's a boy, Oh, James Franklin has finally broken through.
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  Speaker 1: He's won two college football playoff games. He's gotten into
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  Speaker 1: the semi finals. At that point, if you're playing Texas
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  Speaker 1: and you lose to Texas or you lose to Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Like it's that feels like
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe a little bit underscores the idea of
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  Speaker 1: the narrative around some of these coaches and some of
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  Speaker 1: these programs, And you know, that's a spot where they
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  Speaker 1: are set up to succeed, but also they could be
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  Speaker 1: set up to fail. So that's an interesting one to
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  Speaker 1: keep an eye on. And then the semi final games,
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  Speaker 1: the top half of the bracket in this case would
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  Speaker 1: be in the Cotton Bowl because Oregon is the number
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  Speaker 1: one seed, is closer to the Cotton Bowl than they
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  Speaker 1: are to the Orange Bowl. So it would have Oregon
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  Speaker 1: slash Notre Dame slash Tennessee playing Miami slash Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: slash Boise State. And then on the other side of
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  Speaker 1: the bracket, it is the Orange Bowl, and that it'd
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  Speaker 1: be Texas, Alabama, Indiana BYU Penn State, Ole Miss playing
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  Speaker 1: in the Orange Bowl. And if that's the case, if
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  Speaker 1: you sort of play this out based on the favorites,
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  Speaker 1: then you'd have probably, I mean who's favored in the
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  Speaker 1: top half of the bracket. Certainly Tennessee is, certainly Texas,
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  Speaker 1: and then Penn State, I mean Alabama. You're going to
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  Speaker 1: have potentially an SEC versus SEC semi final in the
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  Speaker 1: bottom and a Big Ten versus Big Ten semi final
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  Speaker 1: in the top, and then you're guaranteed to have two
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  Speaker 1: different conferences playing in the National Championship Game. I know
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  Speaker 1: that could be the third Ohio State Oregon game of
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  Speaker 1: the season, and it could be a you know, potentially
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  Speaker 1: a multiple Texas versus Alabama game as well. But you
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  Speaker 1: know that feels like those are probably I bet the
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  Speaker 1: TV networks are just sign up for that right now.
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  Speaker 2: Especially Let's see what if Ohio State can make it
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  Speaker 2: to the Big Ten championship game. Let's see how that
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  Speaker 2: game goes, and if it's another right down to the wire,
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  Speaker 2: is anybody going to be like, ah, we've seen these
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  Speaker 2: We've seen these two teams play enough. Do we really
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  Speaker 2: want to see a third time? Or is it you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'll sign up for a third That's That's that's what
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  Speaker 2: we do in sports play. Let them play three best
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  Speaker 2: best of three wins. It's what we do rock paper scissors,
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  Speaker 2: like this is how we decide most of things in America.
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  Speaker 2: We do two out of three, and so why not
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  Speaker 2: why not the the two out of three just to
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  Speaker 2: then go play the SEC Mega champion basically in the
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  Speaker 2: title game.
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  Speaker 1: I think the really interesting question here is is Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State better off being the five seed or the one seed?
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  Speaker 1: And that's not necessarily going to be the choice that
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  Speaker 1: they have because they already have a loss and you
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  Speaker 1: could potentially see another you know, an SEC team, for example,
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  Speaker 1: jumping them if they do lose the Big Den Championship game.
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  Speaker 1: If they went out and then lose the Big Den
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  Speaker 1: Championship game, They're not necessarily going to be the five seed.
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  Speaker 1: But if Ohio State wins the Big Ten Championship game
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  Speaker 1: and Oregon obviously loses the Big Den Championship game, in
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  Speaker 1: Oregon's the five seed and slotted in here to play
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  Speaker 1: Boise State and then Miami. Would you rather be in
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  Speaker 1: that spot or would you rather have the week off
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  Speaker 1: and then get to play the Tennessee Notre Dame winner.
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  Speaker 1: That feels like that's gonna be the single biggest narrative
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  Speaker 1: question around the playoffs this year, And I think you
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  Speaker 1: can kind of talk yourself into either answer there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm looking at this one, I would probably say,
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  Speaker 2: now that Miami is in that four spot instead of
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  Speaker 2: the Big Twelve champion, that being the number one seed
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  Speaker 2: is the better road. I do wonder what happens if
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  Speaker 2: Boise State continues to win and then maybe can they
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  Speaker 2: become the four seed there? And does that change some
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  Speaker 2: things with the conference champions and does that add somebody
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  Speaker 2: else to the twelve seed that would not be an
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  Speaker 2: ideal fit for the five seed. Do you know, are
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  Speaker 2: you now playing somebody that you would not have preferred
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  Speaker 2: to play as that five seed, like you would be
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  Speaker 2: getting maybe Ole Mess or something like that. So would
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  Speaker 2: you rather avoid that altogether? So I think again, this
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  Speaker 2: is all new data, and we'll find out in like
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  Speaker 2: three years what has been the better path. I think
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  Speaker 2: Penn State would take this right now if you want
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  Speaker 2: to give us six with this matchup and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: dealing with flawed teams in the semi finals of Alabama
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  Speaker 2: and Texas, this is right up their alley. And the
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  Speaker 2: great thing is they could lose any one of those games,
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  Speaker 2: and at any point it would like imagine the high
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  Speaker 2: of beating Ole Miss and then losing it at BYU,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, yes, this all of the defeated Penn
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  Speaker 2: State fans would just be like, can't be to Ohio State,
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  Speaker 2: never been able to beat BYU. That's Franklin.
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  Speaker 1: I just threw all my James Franklin's a terrible coach
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  Speaker 1: shirts in the garbage and now I have to buy
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  Speaker 1: new ones. This is terrible. This is the worst thing
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  Speaker 1: that's ever happened to me. Yeah, that's that's one of
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  Speaker 1: the many potential paths for Penn State and one of
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  Speaker 1: the reasons this is an exercise we keep doing every
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  Speaker 1: week because it feels like this the story is sort
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  Speaker 1: of changing around this every week. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: moving parts. We will have a live show Tuesday evening
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  Speaker 1: as the CFP reveals it's Top twenty five, and potentially
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  Speaker 1: break down something very similar to this a little bit
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  Speaker 1: later on, but that's the official one. We just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to give you an update on this because, boy, the
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  Speaker 1: story is changing around this quite a bit every week.
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  Speaker 1: Because you've had a season full of upsets, a season
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  Speaker 1: full of unpredictability, and a season full of really exciting football.
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  Speaker 1: So looking forward to much more of that. Also looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to heading to Wrigley Field later on this week
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  Speaker 1: when we'll find out what this bracket will really look
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  Speaker 1: That will do it for today. Thank you guys all
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  Speaker 1: for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to
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