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- 0:01Speaker 1: Morning.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Everybody is j n V, Jesse, Larria Charlamage the guy.
- 0:05Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club and we got a special
- 0:07Speaker 2: guest on the line.
- 0:08Speaker 3: Right now. We have Miss Angela Rode.
- 0:10Speaker 4: Good morning, Miss Rode, good morning, good morning.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Now are y'all Eddie rod daughter? How are you feeling
- 0:14Speaker 1: this morning?
- 0:16Speaker 4: I feel good.
- 0:17Speaker 2: A lot to talk about this morning, let's jump right
- 0:19Speaker 2: in it. So over the weekend, Biden decided he was going.
- 0:22Speaker 5: To tap out finally, finally, finally, finally, finally, But you know,
- 0:27Speaker 5: it made me laugh though I saw you jump out
- 0:29Speaker 5: the window. Didn't even see the original video. I just
- 0:31Speaker 5: saw your correction video. But I already knew what it
- 0:35Speaker 5: was about, because you had already said this to me before.
- 0:38Speaker 5: But you said you thought that Biden stepped down, and
- 0:41Speaker 5: why let you explain it. Biden stepped down, You had
- 0:44Speaker 5: some words, you took the post down. What were you
- 0:46Speaker 5: upset about? Initially?
- 0:48Speaker 6: So, as you all know, yesterday Joe Biden issued a
- 0:52Speaker 6: letter that he didn't even tell a lot of folks
- 0:54Speaker 6: on his campaign about. He said that he was going
- 0:57Speaker 6: to not drop out as the president right now, but
- 1:00Speaker 6: drop out of the campaign. And in that letter there
- 1:04Speaker 6: was only a mention of Vice President Kamala Harris as
- 1:07Speaker 6: doing a great job and he's been proud to have
- 1:10Speaker 6: her as his partner for the last four years.
- 1:12Speaker 4: So I'm like, we're the second page. Where the second page.
- 1:15Speaker 6: And so I'm like, yo, I have already told these
- 1:18Speaker 6: people they've been talking about it all week, that he
- 1:20Speaker 6: may not enduse Kamala Harris.
- 1:22Speaker 4: That's not acceptable to me. This person is on your
- 1:25Speaker 4: ticket and says Biden Harris everywhere. So I went off.
- 1:29Speaker 4: I was like, what are you doing? What are we
- 1:30Speaker 4: talking about?
- 1:31Speaker 6: Friend, Like, We're gonna have some real problems if you
- 1:33Speaker 6: don't throw your support behind a person who has stood
- 1:35Speaker 6: lockstep with you in moments where she shouldn't have, including
- 1:39Speaker 6: the debate night, which is where this snowball all began, and.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Then three minutes later later.
- 1:47Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 1:48Speaker 6: But the thing is, I heard that people flipping out
- 1:52Speaker 6: and going off like that actually helped. Why wasn't it
- 1:56Speaker 6: in the initial letter they said that they wanted to
- 1:58Speaker 6: come from the campaign official?
- 2:00Speaker 4: But why did you just put it on Twitter? My friend?
- 2:02Speaker 4: Like the tweet don't necessarily go as viral as the
- 2:06Speaker 4: letter of your initial announcement.
- 2:07Speaker 6: So I think it was bad strategy, and sometimes that
- 2:10Speaker 6: is the casualty of not getting your whole team involved
- 2:14Speaker 6: and ensuring that people advise you on the flat sides
- 2:17Speaker 6: of your strategy.
- 2:18Speaker 1: I disagree.
- 2:19Speaker 5: I think it was good strategy because I felt like
- 2:20Speaker 5: both of them deserved their own different announcements, and they
- 2:22Speaker 5: both worked right because he announced and then everybody was like,
- 2:25Speaker 5: oh my god, Biden dropped out, and then you know,
- 2:28Speaker 5: maybe thirty minutes an hour later, Hey, and now he
- 2:31Speaker 5: endorses kam Alott.
- 2:32Speaker 1: So I felt like they just they owned the news
- 2:34Speaker 1: cycle by doing that.
- 2:35Speaker 4: That's what I think I can appreciate that.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Now, miss right, let's jump right into it. I know
- 2:39Speaker 3: you don't got much time.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Why do you think Biden finally decided to tap out, because,
- 2:44Speaker 2: you know, Friday, his team was like, he's not tapping out.
- 2:46Speaker 3: He's gonna see this all the way through. What do
- 2:48Speaker 3: you think was the change in factor?
- 2:51Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if there was just one.
- 2:53Speaker 6: I think that this has been a circumstance of several
- 2:57Speaker 6: terrible events. The first was the debate. Then they tried
- 3:01Speaker 6: to clean up the debate with an interview, also a disaster.
- 3:05Speaker 6: Then they tried to have conversations to get everybody to
- 3:07Speaker 6: believe that everything was still going to be fine. Also
- 3:10Speaker 6: a disaster. And when you have I think one of
- 3:13Speaker 6: the most important things. They are not just voters in
- 3:16Speaker 6: our democracy. The way this democracy set up, it has
- 3:19Speaker 6: to be largely funded. And so when donors start calling
- 3:23Speaker 6: and saying, yo, if you step aside, you not catching
- 3:26Speaker 6: no more checks, that's a different problem, right, And I
- 3:28Speaker 6: think that's the thing that we have to understand. If
- 3:31Speaker 6: donors stop writing checks in a contested election that will
- 3:35Speaker 6: be as close as this one, or was going to
- 3:37Speaker 6: be as close as this one with Joe Biden and
- 3:39Speaker 6: Donald Trump, if you can't fund it, you're in real
- 3:41Speaker 6: big trouble.
- 3:42Speaker 5: And the polls too, right, because I mean there was
- 3:44Speaker 5: like all of the polls showing that he can't win
- 3:46Speaker 5: in the battleground states, because they were saying that. On
- 3:47Speaker 5: Friday night or Saturday night, he sat down with some
- 3:50Speaker 5: of his team and they showed him like, yo, there's
- 3:52Speaker 5: no path to.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Victory for you.
- 3:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:54Speaker 6: I think that polling is as good as when it's done.
- 3:58Speaker 6: And we are still over one hundred days away from
- 4:00Speaker 6: the election. So even though I've definitely seen the polls
- 4:04Speaker 6: I think one We joke about this on the podcast.
- 4:07Speaker 6: As you know, learn a lot on Native Lampile. We
- 4:10Speaker 6: always like we are the unofficial posters because black folks
- 4:13Speaker 6: never get polled, and so we had a bunch of
- 4:15Speaker 6: people reach out to us and respond to an unofficial
- 4:18Speaker 6: poll that we did all black folks because normally have
- 4:20Speaker 6: y'all ever been I've never been polled.
- 4:22Speaker 4: No, So that's running joke. I don't really put that
- 4:25Speaker 4: much stock and pose this far away from the.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Well they did in twenty twenty.
- 4:27Speaker 5: It did show that he was up by ten percentage
- 4:29Speaker 5: points at this time in twenty twenty, Biden was.
- 4:33Speaker 6: Yeah, but he's also on the other side of a
- 4:35Speaker 6: really disastrous debate. So I think that time could heal
- 4:38Speaker 6: all wounds. Something else could happen. You know, there's been
- 4:40Speaker 6: an October surprise generally every single election cycle Hillary Clinton
- 4:45Speaker 6: had won. His name was James Camy, and he ruined
- 4:47Speaker 6: that thing, right, So I think that things could happen
- 4:50Speaker 6: all the time that change out.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Why you said it like that, you said to a girl,
- 4:53Speaker 1: was he's ruined that thing.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Listen, well, we're speaking of Angela right now, James.
- 4:59Speaker 5: For that, I got one more question before we go
- 5:01Speaker 5: to the calls, what do you think the messaging is
- 5:04Speaker 5: to the people, Because there are a lot of people
- 5:06Speaker 5: looking at this and saying, so damn it took the
- 5:08Speaker 5: donors for you to drop out when seventy percent of
- 5:10Speaker 5: all Americans said we didn't want a Biden Trump rematch
- 5:13Speaker 5: to begin with, Like, why did it take donors?
- 5:15Speaker 1: Why you weren't listening to the people?
- 5:17Speaker 7: You know.
- 5:17Speaker 6: I think it's a fair question, and it's one that
- 5:19Speaker 6: every single elected official, some everybody that's campaigning needs to
- 5:23Speaker 6: take stock in. You have to understand that it's not
- 5:27Speaker 6: just the big donors. Kamala raised over forty million dollars
- 5:30Speaker 6: yesterday with small donors, right, So you have to think
- 5:34Speaker 6: about the fact that we all have a voice. Every
- 5:37Speaker 6: single dollar counts. That means something, and so does every
- 5:40Speaker 6: single vote. So they should be listening to what voters
- 5:43Speaker 6: are saying. I think more than they listen to donors.
- 5:46Speaker 6: The worst thing to me in my political experience is
- 5:49Speaker 6: when a donor's like they go like, Okay, I'm gona
- 5:51Speaker 6: write to this check, but let me tell you what
- 5:52Speaker 6: you need to do about message.
- 5:54Speaker 4: Let me tell you what you need to do about here.
- 5:55Speaker 6: Get you know what you need to get, like why
- 5:57Speaker 6: was your vorst in your opinion? Better like your job
- 6:00Speaker 6: and where you're strong is right in the check it's
- 6:02Speaker 6: not probably in political strategy.
- 6:03Speaker 3: Now, two quick questions before we go to the phone lines.
- 6:06Speaker 2: One, Kamala Harris, what needs to happen for her to
- 6:09Speaker 2: action because right now she is not running right now?
- 6:12Speaker 1: Right?
- 6:12Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a lot of people reporting yesterday, a
- 6:14Speaker 5: lot of dumbass outlets saying that Kamala was the Democratic
- 6:16Speaker 5: nominee or she's not as yet.
- 6:18Speaker 2: So what needs to happen for her to be the nominee?
- 6:21Speaker 2: And who do you think she should pick as a
- 6:23Speaker 2: running mate if she is the nominee?
- 6:25Speaker 6: Yeah, So, in order for her to secure the nomination,
- 6:28Speaker 6: as you all know, the Democratic Convention is just a
- 6:31Speaker 6: couple weeks away, she will have to get all of
- 6:34Speaker 6: those pledged delegates. The fifty state party chairs have all
- 6:38Speaker 6: officially Endorsedry yesterday, labor unions, several elected officials, most of
- 6:42Speaker 6: the Congressional Black Caucus. So she has a lot of
- 6:45Speaker 6: folks lining up that would demonstrate that she.
- 6:48Speaker 4: Can get that.
- 6:48Speaker 6: The other thing that we were just talking about that's
- 6:51Speaker 6: really important here is the dollars. She's demonstrated like less
- 6:55Speaker 6: than twenty four hours. People were excited, probably in a
- 6:58Speaker 6: twelve hour period, forty.
- 6:59Speaker 5: Seven million, forty six point seven million.
- 7:02Speaker 6: Wow, yes, sorry, I said forty seven around it it.
- 7:04Speaker 6: It might be at forty seven now. But the point
- 7:06Speaker 6: is she's secured the dollars, she secured the support, and
- 7:11Speaker 6: now she has to secure the delegates officially in a
- 7:14Speaker 6: convention process. A lot of the people who folks said
- 7:16Speaker 6: we're going to challenge her have now endorsed, So I
- 7:19Speaker 6: think that makes it tough. I want to know who
- 7:20Speaker 6: else is on the bench. I don't know that she's
- 7:22Speaker 6: going to get another challenger. Maybe Joe Manchin. We don't
- 7:24Speaker 6: fool with Joe Manchin like that.
- 7:26Speaker 8: We know better.
- 7:26Speaker 7: Now.
- 7:27Speaker 2: You did say everybody endorsed, but people are saying Barack
- 7:29Speaker 2: Obama hasn't endorsed.
- 7:30Speaker 5: Barack Obama hasn't, Nancy Pelosi hasn't, Chuck Schuma hasn't, Hakeem
- 7:34Speaker 5: Jeffries hasn't.
- 7:34Speaker 2: But Barack Obama, of course, is the biggest one that
- 7:37Speaker 2: he just named. So Bill Clinton endorsed a lot of
- 7:39Speaker 2: people indoors, but people are surprised Barack hasn't involved.
- 7:43Speaker 5: Are Nancy and Chuck Schumer and Haqem Jeffries especially being
- 7:46Speaker 5: Nakeema is black, yes.
- 7:49Speaker 4: So is Barack Obama. And Barack Obama's also black.
- 7:51Speaker 1: I think, stop it, he's black.
- 7:53Speaker 6: Go ahead, God, Jesus Lennard, not this morning, okay, were
- 7:56Speaker 6: still the one drop role.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Kendrick Labar told us, we don't want to hear Barack
- 7:59Speaker 1: say nigga.
- 7:59Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no no.
- 8:01Speaker 4: That was Drake. It's very different. Don't let them get
- 8:04Speaker 4: you another time. Don't let them get you that another time.
- 8:06Speaker 4: No light skin battling today, let's all stay together. So
- 8:09Speaker 4: here we go. So I think initially I was I'm
- 8:12Speaker 4: still not.
- 8:13Speaker 6: That happy with Barack Obama because when he needed Kamala
- 8:16Speaker 6: in a campaign for him, she was right there. And
- 8:19Speaker 6: I feel like he was trying to be in this
- 8:21Speaker 6: role of like, let's let this process play out, and
- 8:24Speaker 6: it's like, no, bruh, she's on the ticket. If she's
- 8:27Speaker 6: on the ticket, all of his pledge delegates now go
- 8:30Speaker 6: to Kamala Harris. That's the same thing that happened in
- 8:32Speaker 6: the contested convention in nineteen sixty eight with Linda B.
- 8:35Speaker 6: Johnson dropping out after RFK challenged him. And so the
- 8:41Speaker 6: thing that happens is all of lbj's delegated or delegates
- 8:47Speaker 6: go to or went to Hubert Humphries right, still a
- 8:51Speaker 6: contested convention. All of that RFK when he was assassinated,
- 8:55Speaker 6: his delegates were split between the other two candidates. These
- 8:58Speaker 6: things happened, and at the end end of the day,
- 9:00Speaker 6: Kamala said she's still playing ball. She said, I intend
- 9:03Speaker 6: to secure and win the nomination. That's what has to
- 9:07Speaker 6: happen at the convention. I think the other folks in
- 9:09Speaker 6: Democratic leadership, which by the way, Nancy Pelosi is not anymore,
- 9:14Speaker 6: but she likes to play that role, is demonstrating that
- 9:18Speaker 6: they want to see the process play out, and that's
- 9:20Speaker 6: how they think.
- 9:20Speaker 4: That leadership looks.
- 9:22Speaker 6: I was told by someone pretty senior in leadership that
- 9:25Speaker 6: they expect for Kamala Harris to secure all of the
- 9:28Speaker 6: support within the next forty eight to seventy two hours,
- 9:31Speaker 6: and I think you'll see those folks fall in line slightly.
- 9:34Speaker 1: I agree.
- 9:34Speaker 5: I don't want to hear nothing from former President Obama
- 9:37Speaker 5: to them about, you know, a process on an open primary,
- 9:41Speaker 5: because y'all didn't care about primaries a year ago when
- 9:44Speaker 5: people were calling for him against Biden. So don't start
- 9:46Speaker 5: caring about primaries now.
- 9:48Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. Actually, like
- 9:51Speaker 6: I said, I was really frustrated with President Obama. We've
- 9:55Speaker 6: talked about this before, but when I was the executive
- 9:57Speaker 6: director of Congressional Black HAWKUS, anytime we were on the
- 10:00Speaker 6: other side of President Obama, it was a real frustrating moment.
- 10:04Speaker 1: The whiteside. You'll stop it.
- 10:06Speaker 4: What I'm sorry, what side?
- 10:08Speaker 1: What side of Obama? The white side, Lenard.
- 10:10Speaker 4: I can't even concentrate with you on.
- 10:13Speaker 6: What I'm telling you is we had a lot of
- 10:16Speaker 6: issues with that Biden, I mean, Louzy, the Obama administration,
- 10:21Speaker 6: and it was really frustrating when folks didn't see that
- 10:23Speaker 6: we were trying to represent the best interest to black folks,
- 10:26Speaker 6: and when we clashed with that administration, folks dragged us.
- 10:29Speaker 6: We used to get hate mail, death threats, you know,
- 10:32Speaker 6: for being on the other side of President Obama. But
- 10:34Speaker 6: sometimes he's on the wrong side of history, and I
- 10:36Speaker 6: think yesterday was one of them.
- 10:37Speaker 1: I agree.
- 10:37Speaker 2: Well, let's go to the phone lines. Angela Raih is
- 10:40Speaker 2: on the lines right now. She's answering all your questions political, whatever,
- 10:44Speaker 2: whatever question you have, something you might not understand, She'll
- 10:46Speaker 2: break it down for you. Eight hundred five eight five,
- 10:49Speaker 2: one oh five one is the Breakfast Club in morning.
- 10:53Speaker 3: Good morning. Everybody is j ND Jess hilarious, charlamage guy.
- 10:57Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We have Angela Raie on
- 11:00Speaker 2: the line this morning. She's helping us out with breaking
- 11:02Speaker 2: down everything. A lot went on over the weekend. Of course,
- 11:05Speaker 2: Joe Biden tapped out, uh, and it's a lot to
- 11:08Speaker 2: talk about.
- 11:08Speaker 1: And we have a Leroy on the line.
- 11:10Speaker 3: Leroy, Good morning, Leroy Roy, I know.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Leroy Black, Good day, Harry Big. What's up, Lero? What's
- 11:18Speaker 1: your last name? Jackson and Johnson?
- 11:19Speaker 9: Damn Washington.
- 11:26Speaker 3: What's your question from Miss Raie?
- 11:29Speaker 7: My question, Angela is uh. I know the delegated from
- 11:34Speaker 7: people behind miss Uh, Miss Harris, it just is the
- 11:37Speaker 7: Republican let me excuse me, a few Democrats that have
- 11:40Speaker 7: all left or they're gonna support her because of course
- 11:43Speaker 7: in two thousand and eight they didn't give a rocket
- 11:45Speaker 7: chance what he did, but they came reluctantly so hopefully
- 11:49Speaker 7: to be behind her. Straight forward out the bed. Uh.
- 11:52Speaker 7: The the pers slow is going pretty well so far,
- 11:54Speaker 7: so that's he Cannet continue.
- 11:57Speaker 2: What's the question is with the Democrats for online?
- 12:00Speaker 3: Is that your question?
- 12:02Speaker 7: Pretty much the main Democrats?
- 12:04Speaker 1: You have to Yeah, well, the main Democrats fall inline.
- 12:06Speaker 1: You kind of answered that a little while ago.
- 12:08Speaker 5: But with the Maine Democrats fall inline, Angela Road and
- 12:10Speaker 5: Nancy Pelosi in chunction with Barack Obama to those people.
- 12:13Speaker 6: Yeah, I think these are the people that will be supportive.
- 12:16Speaker 6: They're waiting to see if anybody throws their hat in
- 12:18Speaker 6: the ring again. Most of the people who would be
- 12:21Speaker 6: her biggest competitors endorsed yesterday. And I think that some
- 12:25Speaker 6: of these other folks are very much controlled by the
- 12:29Speaker 6: donor class, and so they will be.
- 12:31Speaker 4: Supportive if the donors are supportive.
- 12:34Speaker 6: And I think that what we're starting to see is
- 12:35Speaker 6: that they will be even the Wall Street folks on
- 12:37Speaker 6: Wall Street Democrats are like cool, we can roll with
- 12:40Speaker 6: this one now.
- 12:41Speaker 3: Stars on the line, Star, good morning.
- 12:43Speaker 7: Good morning.
- 12:44Speaker 8: How are you this morning?
- 12:46Speaker 1: Good star?
- 12:46Speaker 3: What's your question for Angela RAI?
- 12:49Speaker 10: I have a question, Hi, Angela, good morning, good morning.
- 12:55Speaker 4: I have a question.
- 12:56Speaker 11: Am I correct to a song that there is a
- 12:58Speaker 11: Democrat and a Republican nominee.
- 13:00Speaker 8: The East State.
- 13:04Speaker 6: When you're saying a Republican and a Democratic nominee for
- 13:07Speaker 6: each of the fifties.
- 13:09Speaker 11: Exactly in Congress, right, the congressman, even though the Republican
- 13:14Speaker 11: congressman and a Democrat like I live in Tennessee, Okay,
- 13:18Speaker 11: and I know that we are a raid state, but
- 13:20Speaker 11: we have a balloon, but we have a Democratic person
- 13:24Speaker 11: here Congress from here, right.
- 13:27Speaker 6: Oh are you in Memphis? Yes, yes, so you do
- 13:32Speaker 6: have a democratic representative. And how it works is members
- 13:37Speaker 6: of Congress have about seven a little over seven hundred
- 13:40Speaker 6: thousand people they represent in each state. And that's why
- 13:43Speaker 6: you could have almost fifty districts in California. You can
- 13:47Speaker 6: have five in a southern rural state because there earned
- 13:50Speaker 6: as many people. So that's how they apportion members of
- 13:54Speaker 6: Congress who are on the House side. And then there's
- 13:56Speaker 6: another chamber, the Senate, and the Senate has one hundreds
- 14:00Speaker 6: of her right, So everyone doesn't have necessarily democratic and
- 14:04Speaker 6: Republican representation. It depends on the makeup of the voters
- 14:08Speaker 6: in the state. Starr, are you a registered voter?
- 14:12Speaker 11: I am, okay, so I have a I was asking
- 14:17Speaker 11: another question we did be smart, she decides to because.
- 14:21Speaker 7: I just woke up Allen Head.
- 14:24Speaker 11: So we didn't be smart.
- 14:27Speaker 10: I heard person that she's running with to be a
- 14:31Speaker 10: Democratic person from a Republican state.
- 14:35Speaker 6: Oh, I see, that's a great question, Stark com Are
- 14:37Speaker 6: you ready to be a political strategies this morning?
- 14:40Speaker 4: You know that's.
- 14:42Speaker 6: That's on the table. There's a governor by the name
- 14:46Speaker 6: of Roy Cooper Kamala Harris served as a state attorney
- 14:50Speaker 6: general with and he's from North Carolina. There's another one
- 14:54Speaker 6: named Andy Basheer who's a governor in Kentucky, also a
- 14:57Speaker 6: red state. He's being considered. And then there's there's a
- 15:00Speaker 6: state that goes back and forth, Arizona, like a lot
- 15:02Speaker 6: of our states go back and forth. Mark Kelly, who's
- 15:04Speaker 6: a sitting senator and is the husband of Gabby Giffords,
- 15:08Speaker 6: who was a member of Congress, an all star and
- 15:11Speaker 6: she was shot in the face actually while I was
- 15:14Speaker 6: still with the Congressional Black Caucus, and she's been a
- 15:16Speaker 6: major champion for gun violence, and given everything that's happened
- 15:19Speaker 6: in this country, they think that Mark Kelly would be
- 15:21Speaker 6: a good contender as well.
- 15:22Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the time one saying Kamala and a
- 15:25Speaker 4: white person.
- 15:26Speaker 1: He's got to be a white man.
- 15:27Speaker 4: That's where we are in this country right now.
- 15:28Speaker 5: Those are the top names. And of course the Governor
- 15:30Speaker 5: Josh Shapiro. What do you think about the possibility of
- 15:34Speaker 5: Gretchen Whitman. They been saying you think an all women
- 15:36Speaker 5: ticket would be a smart move right now, Well, I.
- 15:39Speaker 6: Can tell you what I would aspire to see. Sure,
- 15:42Speaker 6: I think all women ticket would be great. I think,
- 15:44Speaker 6: especially given all the battles of the reproductive justice that
- 15:48Speaker 6: we're seeing on the line right now, I'd be surprised.
- 15:51Speaker 6: I have heard they don't rock with each other like that,
- 15:53Speaker 6: but let's see what happens. And then with Governor Shapiro.
- 15:57Speaker 6: As you guys know, I got to sit in on
- 15:58Speaker 6: the interview if you all, with Governor Shapiro, and I
- 16:02Speaker 6: thought he was fantastic. I didn't really know him that well.
- 16:05Speaker 6: And of course Pennsylvania is always a state that is battleground,
- 16:09Speaker 6: one where they bore a lot of resources into and
- 16:11Speaker 6: so having Governor Shapiro on the state also, who worked
- 16:13Speaker 6: with Kamala as a state's attorney general, would be would
- 16:17Speaker 6: be great.
- 16:18Speaker 1: I think Mark Kelly will look good optics wise, because
- 16:20Speaker 1: he looks Maga white.
- 16:22Speaker 8: You know, the only thing about.
- 16:25Speaker 1: The only thing about Mark.
- 16:26Speaker 6: Kelly what Mark Kelly is kind of boring. And I
- 16:31Speaker 6: think that we learned that lesson with Hillary Clinton and
- 16:33Speaker 6: Tim Kaine, Like did you remember Tim Kaine was.
- 16:35Speaker 4: On the ticket?
- 16:36Speaker 7: Did not?
- 16:36Speaker 1: I forgot about.
- 16:39Speaker 4: That's the thing.
- 16:39Speaker 6: Do you want that again? I don't know if I
- 16:41Speaker 6: want that so Mark Kelly. And also he's a senator,
- 16:44Speaker 6: which is where Kamala just came out of.
- 16:46Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 16:47Speaker 4: I think I would like to see a governor.
- 16:49Speaker 2: We're still kicking it with Angela Rye not yeah, hey,
- 16:54Speaker 2: good morning, good morning.
- 16:56Speaker 3: What's your question for miss Angela Raie.
- 16:59Speaker 10: I just want to say that I there was a
- 17:01Speaker 10: big mistake for everybody, including your silent start I figure
- 17:09Speaker 10: coming out bashing Biden, calling Biden fash Tad stepped down,
- 17:13Speaker 10: all of these Democrats coming out. Obama came out from
- 17:17Speaker 10: what I heard, putting all this touch on him to
- 17:20Speaker 10: step down. We picked him to be denominating. I felt
- 17:26Speaker 10: like it was like Roland moand had pointed out by
- 17:29Speaker 10: self destructive to the Democratic Party.
- 17:33Speaker 5: I totally disagreed that wasn't self destructive. That was a
- 17:35Speaker 5: bunch of people who had sense, who simply wanted to win.
- 17:39Speaker 5: And you have to ask yourself, if there's a threat
- 17:41Speaker 5: to democracy, like Donald Trump on the other side, don't
- 17:43Speaker 5: you want to run the best possible candidate to give
- 17:45Speaker 5: you the best possible chances of winning.
- 17:47Speaker 3: People couldn't hear what she said.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Well, she feels like everybody, including Charlemagne and us Apia,
- 17:52Speaker 2: who added the pressure on Biden, added made him step down,
- 17:56Speaker 2: and she feels like it was completely inapprop That's what
- 17:58Speaker 2: that was her feeling.
- 17:59Speaker 1: People just wanted to It is really just that simple,
- 18:01Speaker 1: like do you want to win?
- 18:02Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't know your name was Angela? Was that
- 18:04Speaker 4: question for me?
- 18:05Speaker 3: Or you Angela? What she called name?
- 18:09Speaker 8: She did?
- 18:12Speaker 3: So what's your thoughts on that?
- 18:13Speaker 7: Ms?
- 18:14Speaker 1: Ry?
- 18:15Speaker 4: You know, I think I agree with Leonard.
- 18:17Speaker 6: We did a podcast on this and I kind of
- 18:19Speaker 6: went off about it a little bit because I think
- 18:21Speaker 6: it's really unfair to tell people that they don't see
- 18:24Speaker 6: what they saw. You know, it was a huge problem
- 18:27Speaker 6: to see his debate performance. It was a huge problem
- 18:30Speaker 6: to see you know, the Lester whole interview after the fact.
- 18:33Speaker 6: I think the best thing that happened on debate night
- 18:36Speaker 6: was Kamala Harris defending their record after the debate, and
- 18:41Speaker 6: so I just feel like you can't really tell people
- 18:43Speaker 6: they're not seeing what they are, you know. Initially in
- 18:46Speaker 6: twenty twenty he named the campaign in the Battle for
- 18:48Speaker 6: the Soul of America. We're in a political war, so
- 18:51Speaker 6: you have to be all the way ready. And I
- 18:53Speaker 6: think one of the other things that probably happened sometimes
- 18:55Speaker 6: it's just god like you end up getting COVID, Like
- 18:59Speaker 6: after all that is looking like you're not strong enough
- 19:01Speaker 6: to withstand the pressures that are coming at you, and
- 19:04Speaker 6: that's unfortunate. Like we also don't want to be agist,
- 19:07Speaker 6: you know, but my dad is eighty two and kick
- 19:09Speaker 6: and he only nothing like Joe Biden.
- 19:12Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I think that things happened.
- 19:15Speaker 2: The crazy thing is he got COVID on Tuesday and
- 19:17Speaker 2: he's still at the house. Like I thought the new
- 19:19Speaker 2: COVID rules was three days. He's still there and it's
- 19:22Speaker 2: been about seven days. But my other question to you.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Is had it been seven days? Damn, it's usually been
- 19:28Speaker 1: three days.
- 19:28Speaker 3: It's Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. He should have been out
- 19:31Speaker 3: by now. It's three days now, that's the new.
- 19:34Speaker 6: But I think I think there were other things that
- 19:37Speaker 6: kept him in the house, including this conversation with his
- 19:40Speaker 6: family about whether or not he was going to stay
- 19:41Speaker 6: in the race.
- 19:42Speaker 4: I think it's not just COVID, and he.
- 19:44Speaker 5: Probably stayed in the house because they shooting. Okay, they
- 19:47Speaker 5: just shot last week. I would have gotten low for
- 19:50Speaker 5: a week too, I would have.
- 19:52Speaker 1: I would have.
- 19:53Speaker 5: I think that's the smart thing to do a week
- 19:55Speaker 5: after you're a political opponent gets shot at. I would
- 20:00Speaker 5: I would keep the president away for a little while too.
- 20:02Speaker 4: We ain't talk about this shooting, but I'm just gonna
- 20:04Speaker 4: hold my peace now.
- 20:06Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you before we take some more calls.
- 20:08Speaker 3: You know, do we blame this on his team?
- 20:10Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is his team is
- 20:12Speaker 2: with him twenty four to seven. They prepped, they prepared
- 20:14Speaker 2: for the debate. They know what he is, they know
- 20:16Speaker 2: how he speaks, they know how he talks. And if
- 20:18Speaker 2: he wasn't fit and they knew that he couldn't do
- 20:21Speaker 2: a good job on that debate, why would they still
- 20:23Speaker 2: put him up there to look like that?
- 20:25Speaker 4: That is a great question.
- 20:26Speaker 6: It's a million dollar question as far as I'm concerned
- 20:29Speaker 6: every single one of them people should have been fired.
- 20:31Speaker 4: I agree every single one of them, Like, how dare
- 20:34Speaker 4: you do that?
- 20:35Speaker 6: You need to know your candidate, and if you're not
- 20:38Speaker 6: in a position to have the conversation with the candidate,
- 20:41Speaker 6: to be honest with the candidate, whether it's because you're afraid,
- 20:44Speaker 6: whether it's because you think you need the ratings, whatever
- 20:46Speaker 6: it is, like, you need to be able to be
- 20:48Speaker 6: honest with the principal.
- 20:50Speaker 4: If you can't be, that's a whole other issue.
- 20:52Speaker 6: So I take you to every single one of those
- 20:54Speaker 6: folks who are in this alleged inner circle who've been
- 20:57Speaker 6: advising him because it keeps them in power.
- 20:59Speaker 4: You got to check your own power sometimes.
- 21:01Speaker 1: And he was calling for the debate, and I'll tell
- 21:03Speaker 1: you one thing.
- 21:03Speaker 4: I guarantee you one thing my day, pal, he said,
- 21:07Speaker 4: I guarantee you.
- 21:08Speaker 5: One thing that you will not see. But I guarantee
- 21:11Speaker 5: you won't ever see Kamala Harris and Donald Trump debate.
- 21:14Speaker 5: I guarantee you Donald Trump. I guarantee you Donald Trump
- 21:18Speaker 5: will not take that stage.
- 21:19Speaker 4: With I want to see this so bad.
- 21:23Speaker 1: Donald Trump ain't gonna do it.
- 21:24Speaker 3: He's not gonna do it.
- 21:25Speaker 1: He not going to do it.
- 21:27Speaker 6: Do you guys think he was trying to call her
- 21:29Speaker 6: bluff when he posted yesterday that he would debate her
- 21:33Speaker 6: on Fox News.
- 21:34Speaker 5: But even even still, she should go how long have
- 21:37Speaker 5: I been how long have I been saying, Kamala harrishon.
- 21:39Speaker 4: Go on Fox You're trying to fight me.
- 21:41Speaker 6: Listen to I said, I said, do you think he
- 21:43Speaker 6: was calling her bluff when he said he wanted to
- 21:46Speaker 6: move to debate.
- 21:47Speaker 5: To Fox New probably because that's something that that's something
- 21:50Speaker 5: that she he thinks she probably would never.
- 21:52Speaker 1: Do, you know what I mean?
- 21:53Speaker 4: So she think she should do it too.
- 21:55Speaker 2: By the way, Trump is not gonna debate that. If
- 21:58Speaker 2: Trump's team this small, he don't want that smoke. Ask
- 22:00Speaker 2: some smoky, don't one.
- 22:00Speaker 5: And if she doesn't debate him, because I don't think
- 22:03Speaker 5: that he will, she should still go on Fox News.
- 22:06Speaker 5: Now at the time when she has to go on
- 22:08Speaker 5: Fox News and talk to that side of America.
- 22:10Speaker 3: Well, let's take some more calls.
- 22:11Speaker 2: We have Brock online five Brock, what's your question for Angela.
- 22:15Speaker 9: Rad My question is, well, we protect Kamala wholeheartedly and
- 22:25Speaker 9: aggressively against the attacks from Trump and J. D. E.
- 22:29Speaker 7: Vans.
- 22:32Speaker 6: Well, I think the question starts with you, will you right?
- 22:35Speaker 6: I know what I'm gonna do. I've been a black
- 22:37Speaker 6: woman passed over for a promotion before. I'm protecting her
- 22:40Speaker 6: first from the people that are inside the Democratic Party.
- 22:44Speaker 9: But I did donate the Act Blue for the first time.
- 22:47Speaker 9: I'm supporting. I donated to Act Blue for the first
- 22:51Speaker 9: time last night. Hey, I'm here for, I'm here for.
- 22:55Speaker 1: I love that.
- 22:56Speaker 9: Well, congrats, Jersey is here for. You heard Charlotte Magne.
- 22:59Speaker 4: Come through, you brought I hear you.
- 23:01Speaker 6: I think that's great number one on your first campaign donation.
- 23:06Speaker 6: I hope that you know you will talk to the
- 23:08Speaker 6: folks in our community who question her blackness, who question
- 23:12Speaker 6: whether or not she's for the people, and that you
- 23:14Speaker 6: were able to stand on some of her own accomplishments
- 23:17Speaker 6: from when she was a state attorney general, from when
- 23:19Speaker 6: she was a United States senator. And I believe that
- 23:23Speaker 6: now that she is no longer number two on the ticket,
- 23:26Speaker 6: we're going to see a lot more not just of
- 23:27Speaker 6: her personality, but her desires for this country to come
- 23:30Speaker 6: to fruition. So I think that that's awesome that you've
- 23:33Speaker 6: already shown your support in that way, keep doing it
- 23:35Speaker 6: because there will be a lot of attacks, and I
- 23:36Speaker 6: don't just think it'll be from the Republic.
- 23:39Speaker 5: You just said, so manager that I really hope to see,
- 23:42Speaker 5: you know, is the real Kamala Harris over the next
- 23:46Speaker 5: four months.
- 23:47Speaker 1: And I think, like you said, I think now that she's.
- 23:48Speaker 5: At the top of the ticket, I think those handcuffs,
- 23:51Speaker 5: those handcuffs are going to be off. And if they're
- 23:52Speaker 5: not off, they need to be because the only person
- 23:55Speaker 5: that's going to win this election in November is the
- 23:57Speaker 5: real Kamala Harris.
- 23:59Speaker 4: I think that's one thousand percent right.
- 24:01Speaker 3: We got Mike on the line. Mike, what's your question
- 24:03Speaker 3: for Angela RAI?
- 24:06Speaker 8: Hey, how you doing it?
- 24:09Speaker 7: Hey?
- 24:10Speaker 8: Listen, this is a This is the thing that I
- 24:13Speaker 8: don't ever hear talked about if we get wrapped up
- 24:17Speaker 8: into politics, right, we pick a team because we always
- 24:21Speaker 8: been on that team. Now we got to use our heads.
- 24:25Speaker 8: Our health is on the lies God first. Then I helped.
- 24:29Speaker 8: I'm gonna give you a few notes, but I got
- 24:31Speaker 8: businesses in Atlanta, and I'm gonna give you some things
- 24:34Speaker 8: you never heard before.
- 24:35Speaker 7: One.
- 24:36Speaker 8: Uh, when the fish died in the ocean?
- 24:40Speaker 7: Right?
- 24:40Speaker 8: Wash up on shore, the wells of beaching theyself, that's COVID.
- 24:44Speaker 8: I work with the environmental scientists. They're not telling us this.
- 24:48Speaker 8: They the Democrats or has been infiltrating and and uh,
- 24:54Speaker 8: it's so many within these three and a half years,
- 24:57Speaker 8: we have been told so many lies. Help our kids
- 25:01Speaker 8: helters on the line, and we missed that.
- 25:04Speaker 7: We can't.
- 25:04Speaker 8: They lied about it from the vaccine on from the beginning.
- 25:09Speaker 8: So I didn't vote for either side, and I normally
- 25:13Speaker 8: would vote Democratic Democrats, but I couldn't do either one
- 25:18Speaker 8: because Comlin Biden wasn't telling us that COVID was really
- 25:22Speaker 8: coming from the water.
- 25:24Speaker 1: So cod covie came from the fish.
- 25:31Speaker 8: That listen, they're poisoning the water. And this is how
- 25:34Speaker 8: it was getting to it. So when we was wearing masks,
- 25:37Speaker 8: we were supposed to watch consumption, so we already they
- 25:41Speaker 8: watching and they're sitting back watching the farms be destroyed.
- 25:44Speaker 1: So we need to social distance from fish. So you
- 25:47Speaker 1: mean swimming for the of the you.
- 25:49Speaker 8: See those fish? Where you see those fish? If you don't,
- 25:52Speaker 8: you might as well go on that beach and pick
- 25:54Speaker 8: those fish up and eat it. You take it, you listen,
- 25:59Speaker 8: you take it?
- 26:00Speaker 4: Are you vegan.
- 26:04Speaker 8: No, I'm on my way, man. I stopped the fish.
- 26:07Speaker 8: I stopped the beat because Bill Gates bought off all
- 26:10Speaker 8: our beat.
- 26:11Speaker 4: That means, oh lord, it's a lot happening in Bill Gates.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I really want to know
- 26:18Speaker 1: more about the fish.
- 26:22Speaker 3: Angel, What are you telling people out there that's listening.
- 26:26Speaker 4: Stop if you don't want me to answer the fish question?
- 26:28Speaker 1: No, no, I don't know.
- 26:30Speaker 3: It's COVID, know, So what do you tell people out.
- 26:33Speaker 1: There right now?
- 26:34Speaker 6: Let me let me say this. I'm gonna tell you this,
- 26:36Speaker 6: and I'm gonna start here. I'm not gonna answer the
- 26:38Speaker 6: question directly, and I'm gonna follow instructions. But I do
- 26:41Speaker 6: want to say just this one part about the fish.
- 26:44Speaker 6: The water is being poisoned, and it is from a
- 26:46Speaker 6: lack of regulations on a lot of corporate entities.
- 26:50Speaker 4: And I think that one thing we'll know for sure is.
- 26:52Speaker 6: On the democratic side of with Kamala Harris, climate change
- 26:56Speaker 6: will be known as a real thing and there will
- 26:58Speaker 6: be restrictions put on environmental killers so that hopefully the
- 27:03Speaker 6: fish can survive. Now, moving right along, what I would
- 27:06Speaker 6: tell people is to ensure they understand and study Kamala's
- 27:11Speaker 6: real record. I think that this is an opportunity for
- 27:15Speaker 6: not just the Democratic Party, but the entire country to
- 27:18Speaker 6: really hit reset.
- 27:20Speaker 4: So really give her a fair opportunity.
- 27:22Speaker 6: Look at what she's done, look at what she's promising
- 27:24Speaker 6: to do, and then match that against what your own
- 27:27Speaker 6: needs are for yourself, the dream that you have for America,
- 27:31Speaker 6: the country that you would like to reimagine, and then
- 27:33Speaker 6: really make a clear analysis on who you think will
- 27:36Speaker 6: best help you reach those goals. It's sad then politically,
- 27:40Speaker 6: progress is often incremental. We get it in small bits.
- 27:44Speaker 6: And so even with that, knowing that there may be
- 27:47Speaker 6: incremental change that she may not be able to make
- 27:50Speaker 6: sure that America becomes the reality that we all know
- 27:54Speaker 6: we desperately deserve and need, we may get a little
- 27:57Speaker 6: bit closer. And so that's my plea to everyone to
- 27:59Speaker 6: really try to give her a fair shot. I'm excited
- 28:01Speaker 6: about her opportunity. I'm excited about who she picks as
- 28:05Speaker 6: her running mate, and I can tell you I haven't
- 28:07Speaker 6: felt this way since twenty twenty, the twenty twenty election,
- 28:10Speaker 6: when she joined the ticket. I was never excited about
- 28:13Speaker 6: Joe Biden. I don't think that's a secret to anybody.
- 28:15Speaker 5: And listen, I know this is a sexist country, and
- 28:17Speaker 5: I know that, you know, it's a country built on patriarchy.
- 28:20Speaker 5: But I do want women, you know, especially you know,
- 28:23Speaker 5: black women, you know, to believe in themselves in this
- 28:25Speaker 5: moment the way that we believe in them.
- 28:27Speaker 1: Because you know, when I.
- 28:28Speaker 5: Hear people say things like, oh, she'll never win, this
- 28:31Speaker 5: country didn't vote for Hillary, why would they vote for her,
- 28:33Speaker 5: I think we got to stop saying that, because this
- 28:35Speaker 5: country did vote for Hillary. Sixty five million people voted
- 28:39Speaker 5: for Hillary, and she beat down on Trump in the
- 28:41Speaker 5: popular vote by two point nine million votes. She lost
- 28:44Speaker 5: because of the electoral College, And if we're being honest,
- 28:46Speaker 5: she didn't campaign the way she should She didn't hit
- 28:49Speaker 5: Pennsylvania the way she probably should have. She didn't touch
- 28:51Speaker 5: parts in Michigan the way she probably should have. I
- 28:53Speaker 5: think it was Wyoming, Wyoming on Wisconsin. It was three states,
- 28:57Speaker 5: Tans Wisconsin. Those three states really cost her the election,
- 29:00Speaker 5: and her campaign even admits they didn't touch those states
- 29:03Speaker 5: the way that they should have.
- 29:04Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that.
- 29:06Speaker 5: Went into play with Hillary not becoming president. And I
- 29:09Speaker 5: don't think it was just because.
- 29:10Speaker 1: She was a woman.
- 29:12Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear that. I want to know who y'all
- 29:14Speaker 4: think is going to be the running mate.
- 29:17Speaker 1: Mark Kelly Man, he's mag of white.
- 29:18Speaker 5: I would like Shapiro though, you know, for me my
- 29:21Speaker 5: personal take of b Shapiro, I'm gonna tell you another
- 29:23Speaker 5: another white man I like.
- 29:24Speaker 1: I like Tim Ryan. I think Tim Ryan has been
- 29:28Speaker 1: friend I know, but I'm just throwing the name.
- 29:29Speaker 5: I did because he's really been supporting Kamala and he
- 29:32Speaker 5: was one of the first people to jump out there
- 29:34Speaker 5: and say Joe Biden needs to step down and Kamala
- 29:36Speaker 5: needs to be at the top of the ticket. And
- 29:38Speaker 5: you do that, and he's very battle tested against jd
- 29:42Speaker 5: Vance as well in Ohio.
- 29:44Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I hear that. I hear that.
- 29:46Speaker 6: I think that that might be tough. You know, the
- 29:50Speaker 6: everybody that runs on the ticket has to be vetted.
- 29:53Speaker 6: They have to check for, you know, chemistry with the candidates.
- 29:56Speaker 6: And I think that's another another important piece.
- 29:59Speaker 4: Mark Kelly. I like the politics of it. I just
- 30:01Speaker 4: think that he might be a little too boring.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Well, Governor Shapiro, then let's go all right, Well, Angela Raie,
- 30:06Speaker 2: we appreciate you for checking in and breaking all this
- 30:08Speaker 2: stuff down for us this morning, on this Monday, and make.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Sure you tune into the Native Lamp podcast.
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- 30:20Speaker 4: All Right, thank you, Yes, indeed, I appreciate y'all.
- 30:23Speaker 1: Wake that answer up. Ear in the morning Breakfast Club