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Billy Bragg · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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It's deprogram you into an artist.
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Today's I just brag, I could probably make some sort of
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dragging something like that, but I won't I shan't.
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Hi, we're talking about Billy Bragg today and John this is one
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on one of the long list you sent me that.
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I'm very excited about this because I feel like For a long
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time. It's almost all been the punk
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stuff for you. Like you like nobody signing up
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for anything else that you put up there.
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You know, I had this talk before, this is not Punk.
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Talk to me about Billy Bragg. Um, Billy Bragg is punk
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adjacent. Like he kind of came up in the
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like the late 70s kind of Pub Rock scene and I think the story
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is like, once he heard the Clash, then he knew like that's
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what he wanted to do. But it's a Jason in the sense
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that he kind of like was like the first guy I think to really
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just play folk music with and like solo electric guitar
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because there's a, you know, the whole history of folk music goes
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back, a long way with it with guys with acoustic guitars but
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he was like the first was like I'm going to go, let me go
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electric and and change this up and like he kind of turned the
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the the punk generation onto this kind of Folk Music and like
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It can be like protest music and you know talking about being
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being political like he's got these this dual sides of like
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these political songs like pro-union pro-communist you know
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and then these kind of love songs.
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These kind of sweet kind of sad love songs.
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He kind of like balances that type or tightrope very well.
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He's had a he's had a very long career.
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He's still going to this day, we kind of focused on his I think
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first like ten years or so, but but he's got a he's, you know,
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he's a living legend at this point.
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I think. So Chris you signed on in like
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and you signed on second onto the show.
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But then when you just signed on a little while ago, you said
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this guy is way more depressing than I thought.
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So is this, was this like new to you or did you have like a basic
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knowledge? So yeah, I had a pass Seek
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knowledge of Billy Bragg learned of him.
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When I got into a new wave hits of the 80s and 90s phase back in
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the late high school, early college.
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And you know, and I knew he was, you know, like 40 throwed Union
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for labor, same test kind of singer, but His stuff is like
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really deep. It doesn't come off as deep.
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It's very fun to listen to and jaunty in places.
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But man, his, his subjects are deep and it comes to marriage
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and religion and politics in sexuality, and the kids and
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everything. This was a really, really opened
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my eyes, and I like him, even more now than I did.
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Before I really liked him before, but after going through
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all of his discography that we went through, it gave me even
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more of an appreciation for him. And like he said earlier, he is,
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he is still very active, he's active on Twitter.
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If it survives he's, he's very interactive with his fans.
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I've had interactions with him on Twitter before he's a really
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cool dude. And his music, just incredible.
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So this is an artist, you know, surprise surprise.
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I had no inkling, like nothing. I had no idea what to expect at
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all period. End of story.
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I'd never I'd never even heard the name like this wasn't even
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one of those where like I know something.
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I knew nothing. So complete links like going in
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and we chose like John said, like I think it ended up being
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what five records may be 6 because like the first couple
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are really short. Thanks for every six records.
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There we go. But like, like a three-hour
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running time. So you guys know me, I'm like,
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oh yeah, like I can ingest this in an afternoon.
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I'm in. But when so first talk to me,
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like, why did you cut it? Where you did John because this
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is, this is a John special, John was like here.
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This is, this is what we should do.
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Why did you cut it where We where we did and then talk to me
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about like putting your list together for this.
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Yeah. Well that's like the I think we
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went up through his album in 1991.
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I think he didn't. He didn't have another one until
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96 so then you're getting into like a second phase of his
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career and like they're the sound kind of changes and
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expands. You know, it starts to starts to
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move a little bit from where it was originally and I think this
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is like considered his like classic era.
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And I would love to know if there if there was interest.
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I would love to do a part 2 sometime and and do the rest of
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that stuff because there are some, some great songs on that
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and the latter half of his career, but is a lot of it too.
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Is like, I had certain songs that I definitely wanted up into
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that 91 record. So I that one had to be
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included, which people will get to, but putting the 20 together,
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you know, again I was I was pretty familiar with, with this
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catalog of few of the Uppercuts. I were new to me, but I kind of
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knew the the main ones like I own a couple of his albums, so
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it wasn't difficult. I think I, you know, just it's
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between finding a balance between the political songs in
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the personal songs and trying to trying to get a good mix in a
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good representation of like of what he does and like this this
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early period for him. Same question to you Chris like
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as you're putting together 24 this like, what was it?
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It was it difficult. Did you have gameplay like how
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did you approach it? I didn't really have any games
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like going to this one because again I'm not super familiar
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with all of his music. I knew a few of the songs and as
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I listened to it, I was like wow, this guy is awesome.
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It's a lot more than I and I expected, the last few Cuts were
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very difficult. I ended up kind of Cutting it up
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into not so much as music Styles but very much listening to the
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lyrics looking at the movements and choosing subject matter as
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opposed to musical styles. So I tried to keep because he's
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got several subjects that he kind of goes over and over again
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and I tried to keep a decent mix with those last couple of cuts
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from really, tough really don't. I haven't had a hard time with a
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With a artists like this in a while.
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So I really enjoyed it, but it was felt, it was fun.
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So as he said, six records, it was 64 song. 65 songs 64, 65
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songs. Not a lot.
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But like so, like I said, it's not a slog to get through, but
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it There's so much like early on as you're listening.
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You're like II was getting this feeling of.
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Oh is this all this is but at the same time going.
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Yeah. But this should be in.
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So is this all this is 0 but it's good.
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This this should go in and then you get into some of the laters
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we're like the style changes a little bit and it's like oh oh
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okay more. Okay, I All in all I had 30
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something, maybe it was 27, I don't remember exactly.
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But I had, I had a tough time getting it down to 20 because I
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didn't know I couldn't decide which direction to send it like
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right after I hide. I had done it.
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I would have said all his. Don't try this at home, like
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like my wheelhouse would have been there.
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Like that was the album I enjoyed the most but Then like
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you think about the first couple records where it's just him and
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his guitar and it's like, but that I feel like that's the core
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of what we're looking for here. So I know they knew I couldn't
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take all these like, you know, bigger more thought-out, you
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know, more complete for lack of a better term song.
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So that was that was me much like you guys trying to find the
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balance of what I like to particularly versus what this
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artist is. And that's not to say I didn't
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like Like the just a man and his guitar stuff.
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It's just to say my taste sled more towards the that the last
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record we included. So that brings the next question
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because now I'm feeling kind of shaky on this.
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John, how many do you think for the final say how many do you
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think we're going to get through unanimously?
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Oh, I'm going to say for that sounds, right?
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That's yeah, that sounds right. We think Chris for was around.
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I was actually thinking maybe three.
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I think, I think we may be wildly different in our choices.
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I didn't want to go five. I'm just going to go one, two,
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three. So since were mistaken, I'm
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going to vote for you. Manny both my numbers snagged.
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So All right, so do I go Optimist or do I go asshole?
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Yeah. Because to doesn't seem to
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doesn't seem likely that it's, there's only but so many corners
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to hide here, but five does seem high.
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I'm going to take five, I'll take the Optimus Road.
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You know, I'd rather, I'd rather be wrong and positive about it,
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then you don't want to be rooting against us, right?
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game is deprogrammed, the three of us have come through a select
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discography of Billy Bragg and have plucked out, 20 songs that
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were now going to mesh together in an attempt to get a top ten
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certificate for you, in case you are like me and have never given
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Billy Bragg the time of day. I've tried to move away from
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this move lately because I feel like it's a go to Justin move,
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but I think it's appropriate with this.
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It's a man in his guitar. It's the Milkman of human
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kindness. No, I do have that.
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I really like the song. All right?
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Especially compared to this, the subject matter of most of his
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songs. I'm like, this one's just nice.
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I like it. Yeah, it's like yeah.
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And like I said tone Center. Like the second I hear that ago.
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Okay. Is is like I said, is it?
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I'm like, is this all it is and then you get more songs that are
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like that and you're like yeah it is.
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So like sets the tone, you know, like I always love when you set
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the tone. All right.
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It was it was on my first pass but other ones superseded it
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later on to it's still alive. All right.
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John I'm gonna go with maybe his best-known song.
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We'll see what happens. Here, A New England.
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Yes. That's the one that brought me
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to one. That's my number one.
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It's not my number one obviously, but I do have it.
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Okay. And actually after listening to
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a lot of his other songs upon listening to them more, I may
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come up with a new number one, but this is the one that got me
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too. Yeah, this is what he's known
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for more than anything else I think.
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Man and his guitar. Yep, that's what I loved about,
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it just to dude. Play guitar and sing.
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The song was great. Stuff is around stuff.
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Wish upon space Hardware. I love that it is a great song,
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great? Right Chris.
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Well that's what I was going to lead with now I don't know what
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to do. Let's go with something I only
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picked this is playing the game and I only kept it because I
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think. Justin hasn't train.
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Train, train, train, train train.
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I got it Z. I do not.
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This is the only reason I kept it on.
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Like, Justin's going to keep changing just loves trains.
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I do indeed love trains. That is totally the A reason I
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kept playing the game. Yep.
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Got to respect it. Maybe if I could spell train.
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There it is. All right.
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Well it's it doesn't get in but it's not dead.
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So all right, back to me, a Hmm. So this goes completely again
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against what I was saying. I said against, I think John
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said that earlier. And now it's in stuck, my head.
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This goes against everything I had said earlier because it's
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not a man in his guitar. It's just a, man.
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Something about the song like I just, I couldn't get away from.
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I understand if you guys don't have it, but I thought this was
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a nice show of something else that this man can do.
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I drunk. I dreamt, I saw Phil ochs last
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night. Yeah, yes, that's know.
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I love that song. Little distinct.
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Like, you guys are, you guys are on the ball and I'm the outlier.
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And that's like that's his like his Ode to his inspiration.
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Sure. The the protest singer?
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Yes. Absolutely convincing.
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I just there was something about it.
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You know, I didn't know. No, the subject matter so that
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makes it makes it come in a little clearer now but just
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something about the way it was it was just him and he's just
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singing and the first time I was like okay this is interesting,
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I'm going to keep it and when I came back up to it the next time
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I'm like okay this still isn't my favorite but I can't cut it
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yet. Let's wait.
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And then the third time I heard it I was like okay this is in
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like and did you Google Phil ochs and Actually do was, I
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didn't which you have to because it makes the song even better.
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Okay, will do. Yeah.
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But all right. It's got to It's Not Dead.
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John, there's power in a union. Yes.
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Yes, there we go. It's like, I swear I had that
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obviously further down. All right, let me it's got a few
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Union songs, but I feel that's like the best.
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Oh, hands down. Yeah, absolutely.
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to to the bed, they're not We're doing well.
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We are doing well, plenty of room for error.
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No pressure, Chris, you're up. All right, I just got home from
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New York for a funeral, for my wife's dad and my own dad has
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passed away many many, many years ago.
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So I'm going to go with this song because I got Dad's on the
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brain and it's made me cry tank Park salute.
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Anti-war protest. This my dad because he died in
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them. I wish I can be as super fucking
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depressing. I wish I could save you friend,
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but I do not have that one. I can't save you.
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I do have that. All right, all right.
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Great preciously fascism. Like I said that album I
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probably could have made the case for every song that one was
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easily my favorite but I don't think it's the core of what he
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does. The album, I mean so far enough.
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All right, back around to me a hmm.
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Shoot. Um, so do I go with one of these
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love songs or do I go? How about?
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How about love gets dangerous? No.
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I think that was a later cut finally hits.
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I guess it was bound to happen. Well, sure.
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All right, find that here and then find that.
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Here. There really is a lot to choose
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from far for this sound. All right, John.
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I'm going to go with the one that was kind of pushed.
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It was supposed to be his like, Breakthrough hit and in the
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early 90s, I don't know if this was the one you were referring
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to before Auto the you'd heard. Let's go sexuality.
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Yes. Yeah.
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I got it. Nice.
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Yes. Great song.
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Very forward thinking for even 1991.
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Absolutely forward-thinking for 1991.
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Yeah, no doubt. This sound again.
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Like I'm not trying to like this sound, like permeates this
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record. Don't try this at home, unless
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it was all. I could do to not pick so much
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of this. Like I said, like I got him
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being so repetitive right now and I'm sorry, like, I, I had to
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be really picky on that record because I feel like the whole
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record is great. And I Probably, like I said,
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probably could have made a case for each of the songs.
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But I think ultimately. I was like, am I am I taking
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these? Because just because I like them
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or am I taking them? Because Billy you know this
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great representation of Billy Bragg so I was trying to that
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new trying to find the medium. That's interesting that you
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thought that because like talking with the taxman about
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poetry is I think generally considered his his best one.
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Like that's the one that people always talk about when they talk
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about him. So it's funny that you, you
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latched onto a different one coming in coming in fresh.
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Do it. Yeah.
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And again like I don't want to act like any devil ones, I
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didn't enjoy, but like this is the one, this is the one that
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hit my tastes, the hardest. So, all right Chris.
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All right. Let's go with some good
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old-fashioned, anti-america songs.
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I have a couple on my list but this is the first one.
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I've really enjoyed. It sounds like something.
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I might sing in the footy Bunch. The marching song of the covert.
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I don't have that one. No.
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Yeah whoa dude shit. See, this is the problem trying
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to keep the Communists and Order making the world safer
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capitalism on the Texas Board. Haggadah love this.
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This record has so many different sounds woohoo that I
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couldn't. I mean, I obviously I have
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something from everything, so I don't have a real reason why I
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didn't pick it. I just didn't.
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I'll bet there's a lot of. This was this was a tough.
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This was a tough list. It really wants.
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Let me stay on that record Blake's Jerusalem.
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No, all right, for the record we are at We're at John's three.
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So there's wiggle room. Glad I had 40 they had poor
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eyesight. I got them backwards.
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We might get one more thing. I think it's still very early so
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we got time. Whoo.
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Such a sucker for piano. Yeah.
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No. I mean, not always but like in
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such a beautiful instrument. All right, John.
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I'm just going to keep hitting the popular more.
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Well-known was here. How about?
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Greetings to the new brunette. I keep them shit really looks
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like. So I usually have a spreadsheet
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that I didn't have time to do spec sheet.
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No, I don't. I did not.
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I did though. It gets to hang out to 22.
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All right. Chris.
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And you lot of two's. All right.
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Let me see if I can make myself loose.
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No, don't like to. I've been on a streak lately.
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Help save the Youth of America. The other good kind of and time
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definitely how us song so John does.
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And so do I. Yeah there we go.
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I lost. Yay question mark.
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It's fucking love this song's, dude.
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Oh my God. Honestly, like, could make a
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case for this being the one. I don't know that it is.
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That's a good signal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't
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argue against it great. We'd just and we were talking
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about the band discount a before we started recording, they
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actually did a billy Bragg covers EP and help save these
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America America is on there and it is Fantastic.
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Hmm. I mean, they just picked, they
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just picked five songs to cover and they did it like more of an
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upbeat kind of punk, / Rock style.
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It's very, very good. I mean, it's got a good good,
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good foundation. It's a got a good good bone.
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Yes, to jump from. So there are a few more on that
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record that when they come up. Um, I'll probably mention it to
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all right. So helps of Youth was Chris and
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so that does that take us to our for?
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Yeah. Yeah, that's for John's got For
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all right. I mean we might have another one
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in us, might we might happen and then I don't feel so crazy.
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Um, okay, we only got one answer when I asked.
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So if I don't play this I had I ended up having the song so I if
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I don't play this, you know, why did I ask to have and have not
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Yes, yes there. Absolutely great for consult.
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Wow, I'm surprised we got that. I'm surprised you got 25
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honestly. It's just got such an Eclectic
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tricking songs of subjects and whatnot.
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I really didn't think we do that.
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And there's still a decent, decent amount out here.
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So All right, but I feel like we can play a little loose.
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Now, that's it. Yeah, that's a great fucking
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class song. Yeah.
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All right, John. All right.
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How about? Let's go with a little one, a
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little bit more left field. The Saturday boy, mmm.
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Unfortunately I do not have this is the time for that.
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That's why you said it, it wasn't more romantic ones.
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It does have a fair amount of decent Love Song.
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Yes. All right, Chris.
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Well, let's go with ghost story song Because I'm a sucker for
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story song writing on demand. No sorry.
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Sorry. It's all good.
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All good. The most of these.
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I mean, if and or when we hit the ones that were like really
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close, I'll be able to tell you pretty sure this was on my first
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pass. But most of these are going to
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just be, I don't have I loved what the honky-tonk piano.
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Good shit. All right, let's see.
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
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Yeah, there's plenty out here. Um, let me go in the middle here
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and see if I can. How about must I paint you a
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picture? No.
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What can I say? All right, John Waiting for the
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Great Leap, Forward know. Nope, really has a surprised,
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okay. I that was a lately caught.
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I love this song. It's great fucking this must
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again must have been one of my last Cuts or something because I
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thought I did, and then I looked at my listing, I didn't all
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right, Chris Let's go with one of his good, requited love
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songs. Mother of the bride.
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I do not have that one. Nope, no.
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Has the, I mean this is more of what we thought it was going to
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be. Yeah, yeah, it's just it's good
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that we got like a good Bunch up front.
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See, it seems like that album is going to be the problem.
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We all kind of got different stuff from it.
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All right, speaking of you know I'll stay on that record with
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you accident waiting to happen. Yes, that's another one on the
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discount cover and I love it. All right, just an edge on that
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stays alive. All right, John all right.
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Um how about ideology? Yes, I was just looking at that
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one. No but again too.
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I feel like we are about to go and tie governments.
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There it is. I was spelling ideology wrong.
31:29
Good for me. All right, Chris well, I don't
31:34
think we've gotten into any of his like having a baby and
31:43
getting rid of it, or In that subject.
31:48
And then things got a few songs about lat.
31:52
Let's go with this guitar. So sorry.
31:58
No, no, that's what the songs about like.
32:02
Yeah, getting pregnant and giving up a child or getting rid
32:06
of a child that's one of my yeah.
32:12
This is where I'm like I said I was trying to pick subject so I
32:16
tried to hit every subject that he said had to get into the
32:19
pyramid. This one loves.
32:23
Yeah. And that killer guitar solo.
32:36
All right, I think I think I've got like six have a child.
32:42
I'm it takes to make a cup of tea.
32:45
Fuck. Yeah.
32:51
How about? Little time bomb.
32:56
No, no, the magic is gone. So maybe we'll do this round of
33:07
one more and then dumped out. Feels so good.
33:11
I still got nine. Left, 06, not actually 77.
33:20
I got seven left. All right, John.
33:23
All right. Let's go back to the to the
33:26
early days of lovers Town Revisited.
33:30
I got it. It stays alive.
33:45
All right, Chris. We'll stick with subsequent.
33:53
Let's stick with our relationships and go with the
33:56
marriage. Nope, that was number 21.
34:09
Come back to that, definitely want to come back to that.
34:13
And after the fact, All right, so this will be our last round.
34:20
And we'll dump out from from there.
34:22
Yeah. What am I feel best about
34:25
though? None of them really all over the
34:31
place. How about she's got a new spell?
34:35
Yes, no. It's good fun song, Justin and
34:42
Chris. All right, John Levi, Stubbs
34:47
tears. Oh shit, no God damn it.
34:51
That I think that was a stupor late, cut one of my favorites
34:56
theme park. That's a great song.
34:58
I think that was my 21. There's it was either 21 or 22
35:04
there. That's a great freaking
35:05
something about That one's dead deep one.
35:11
I'm sorry. All right.
35:14
Chris shit. I do you fucking know.
35:18
All right. Let's go with another War song
35:24
since no one was in the last one.
35:27
Well, not everyone's moonkin. My youngest son came home today.
35:35
Nope, I've got it nice. Another fucking happy song.
35:41
If Levi wasn't 21 than this one was 21.
35:45
Oh man, that's a good song. He's such a great fucking.
35:51
He's like, Pete Seeger this. Holy God, not finding it.
36:00
Y OU, there is so John and Chris.
36:07
All right, so we still have I still got like I think five but
36:14
here's what's already through unanimously before to having to
36:18
have to have and have not a New England.
36:20
There's power in the union, helped save the youth Ameri,
36:23
America and sexuality. I can speak us.
36:25
We're all right, I'll start right at the top here, The
36:29
Internationale. Nope, the great song lately cut
36:34
but now you polite cut again, it's that fucking like you can
36:39
hear him singing out at the, sing it at the frickin football
36:43
stadium. Yep, it's yeah.
36:46
Yeah. That was a late cut.
36:47
All right, life with the Lions. Nope, another like car that was
36:54
top top. Yeah, my first pass was like,
36:58
38. My second was like 27 and that
37:02
that definitely make the Cs about strange things happen.
37:10
Yes. All right.
37:14
Excuse me. Something gets into the combo at
37:17
least. Dwindling down here.
37:22
I only got a couple left. All right, a lover sings.
37:31
No. A lover sings.
37:38
And last but not least body of water.
37:49
No. All right.
37:57
I think I had like a five was bad in 500, something like that.
38:02
All right, John. All right.
38:05
I've got tender. Comrade, Valentine's Day is over
38:13
yet. No, that's great.
38:15
So the only one, Nope, it says here.
38:24
Yes, at least one. Yes.
38:30
And then the last bad to pick this one again on that on that
38:34
discount covers EP North Sea bubble.
38:40
That was definitely one of my last ones.
38:44
I don't know where it landed but it was definitely one of my last
38:46
ones. All right, just for fun.
38:51
Chris. Yeah, it's true. get some
38:56
Giggles, I had Mom come from my Valhalla Velo, not sure how to
39:06
pronounce them. And the busy girl set.
39:10
The busy girl buys Beauty nuggets.
39:22
Yeah, it 20 and a half. All right, so we got five
39:34
unanimously which means I got the final say-so To Have and
39:37
Have Not A New England. There is power in a union, help,
39:41
save the Youth of America and sexuality are in.
39:44
So now the 2 is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10, 11 12 that we need to trim
39:53
down to five. Do you need me to read the list,
39:58
Chris? Or do you have?
40:03
Do you have a running if you would because I did not make a
40:09
spreadsheet like I usually do. So in order to keep track of
40:13
what I was choosing I had to delete them off my playlist
40:16
going to do not true. So I got you so.
40:19
All right so these are the 12 that had to the Milkman.
40:21
A human kindness lovers Town Revisited I dreamed.
40:24
I saw Phil ochs last night, my youngest son came home today.
40:28
She's got a new spell. Greetings to the new brunette
40:31
train train. Ideology, it says here, strange
40:35
things happen. Accident waiting to happen, tank
40:39
Park, salute, John. If I said to you of those 12 was
40:46
there one that you can't believe didn't get in?
40:49
Is there one? That's kind of sticks out to
40:50
you. There's three or four.
40:56
I'm going to stick with what we're going to get to the other
40:58
ones. I think, but I think the one
41:00
that I'm looking at the most here, it's kind of a one out of
41:05
left field, but I think it really, really kind of blew me
41:11
away. When I was listening to this, it
41:13
wasn't one that I was familiar with before, but I think it
41:15
definitely deserves to be on here is tank Park salute.
41:19
All right. I was the odd man out there, so
41:25
Out of curiosity is that one of the ones you were going to say
41:27
to Chris? I mean that's it's it's it's a
41:31
powerful song. I would definitely make case for
41:35
them to make the top 10. Yeah, so might as well just push
41:39
that through. Like I said, I was the on right
41:40
now, I have no problem. All right, same question to you,
41:44
Chris of those. Now, 11, that are left.
41:47
Is there one that you were like, man, I can't believe that one
41:49
didn't get in. Um, well to group a couple of
41:55
It's, I think train train can go.
41:58
Away. Okay, because yeah, and like I
42:01
said, I only chose it because I knew Justin would Yeah, it's a
42:10
fine song but I, yeah, it's not happy to have made it this far.
42:15
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
42:18
One. That I'm surprised was not a
42:20
unanimous, was the, Phil ochs one because I feel like it's
42:24
just a love letter to his Muse. The reason these things, the way
42:29
he does and work the songs he did.
42:33
Phil ochs was a very prolific protesting not the gear.
42:39
Yeah to judge impact on what Billy Bragg is.
42:43
Yeah that was that was the one. I think I was the odd man out on
42:47
but yeah I can't I can't argue against that.
42:51
All right, so let's do that, let's take this up to seven.
42:55
Alright? So next round ones that you
42:58
would fight for John like ones that cuz we got two more before
43:01
I get my final say. say yeah the two that that stick out, I think
43:07
like a sore thumb, greetings to the new brunette and probably
43:14
ideology All right, same question to you.
43:18
Chris, if you got, if you had to.
43:21
Whoo? What, what?
43:26
What's left? But the twos.
43:28
Right? Sure, we got here.
43:30
Let me go back to the in condo. Milkman.
43:33
A human kindness lovers, lovers Town Revisited, my youngest son
43:37
came home today. She's got a new spell, greetings
43:39
to new Burnett. Train, trip turns out.
43:41
Sorry, ideology it says here, strange things happen, accident
43:45
waiting to happen. and um, Hawkman.
43:57
Do you want to really like? I'd I really like ideology and I
44:03
think I was Dilip, I Tubbs Levi, Stubbs.
44:08
Did he make to? That's all no.
44:10
It was only one shit he's going to say.
44:14
I feel bad about that one and I would bring that one back.
44:16
Fuck me. All right.
44:20
I got to go with ideology. All right.
44:23
It's a great anti-government song or Ingredients to the new
44:33
Burnett that's like classic. Billy Bragg.
44:37
Yeah it really is. Um so my song is great but I
44:43
think that's the one. I honestly don't know why Cho
44:49
shit I don't know why that didn't make my top 20 honestly.
44:53
That is absolutely one of my favorite songs of his with the
44:56
yeah. Yeah no.
44:59
That one can I'm flying with greens, the brunette.
45:03
All right. I don't know why I cut it.
45:06
Honestly, I shouldn't have because that is absolutely as
45:11
I'm looking at the lyrics, I'm like, what could you play a
45:15
little bit of? Yeah, that should have been.
45:31
Yeah, honestly, I have no idea why I kept this song, this is
45:36
one of my favorite songs is and I probably cut it.
45:40
Just put fucking train train in fucking thing in there.
45:44
Hey man, I'm gonna play the game.
45:46
I'm gonna cut my favorite song and put fucking trade trade in
45:49
there because it's got a training for the record, I
45:52
figured out, I figured out a way to get them both in my list.
45:55
So, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So no, I'm absolutely fine with
46:03
greetings to the new Brew. All right.
46:05
So that takes it to me and my final say My inclination here
46:18
and I'm willing to listen to what you guys have to say about
46:22
this. But my inclination is, my
46:23
youngest son came home. Like there's plenty of that I
46:30
picked like Milkman that's great, again, tone Setter but
46:38
Exile. I absolutely adore accident
46:40
waiting to happen but I feel like Youngest son came home, you
46:48
guys both had. I did not and it's one of those
46:52
ones like we're well, it was so close and I was like, man to
46:59
play Devil's Advocate. Do we have another like good
47:06
anti-war song? Because milkman Is completely
47:12
different than most of his song. Yeah, that is true and I could
47:20
make a case for that making sure, but it's your choice.
47:25
That was gonna. I was gonna throw my hat in, for
47:27
accident, waiting to happen. Mmm.
47:29
Yeah, look, man. That's not a hard sell.
47:33
Yeah, all right. So let me ask you guys this to
47:37
get your opinion on it. Do do we, how much do we care
47:40
about album rub? Not at all.
47:44
Yeah, no. Okay.
47:45
Then then this is easy for me. I'm going to go with accident
47:49
waiting to happen. This thousands, probably root.
47:54
So, boom. Let's let's that's fine with me.
47:57
Like I was the odd man out on that one, right?
48:04
Where'd it go? Where'd it go there too?
48:06
So I needed to save the final say, boom, it's been a while
48:12
since I I want to file say. Alright.
48:13
So here we go. Here's our 10 To Have and Have
48:16
Not A New England. There's power in a union.
48:19
Help save the Youth of America. Sexuality tank Park salute.
48:22
I dreamed us off a looks last night ideology.
48:25
Greetings to new Burnett, and accident, waiting to happen.
48:28
Now, John of those 10, which one is the one So many good choices
48:36
there. That is a, that is a solid solid
48:39
list, but I got to go with a New England.
48:43
What do you think Chris? It's like look it said it's the
48:48
one that's that's my Billy Bragg song.
48:52
That's when you say Billy Bragg I got oh I can't argue with
48:59
there's probably better songs, but that's certainly, the one
49:04
that will get people to go. Oh, hey, this guy's pretty
49:07
fucking good. I'm going to listen to more of
49:09
what he has. Yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm not
49:13
going to offer anything else up because I feel like that's the
49:16
one. Yeah.
49:19
So boom. There it is easily enough.
49:23
So a New England is our number one to have in to have not.
49:26
There is power in a union. Help, save the Youth of America.
49:29
Sexuality tank Park salute. I dreamed.
49:31
I saw the looks last night, I'm so glad that got in Audiology.
49:34
Yes, Credence to the new brunette and accident waiting to
49:37
happen. Let's let a New England, get a
49:39
moment in the Sun. Looking for new.
49:56
There we go, there we go. In case you have, never given
50:00
Billy Bragg the time of day, you got a list and you can get
50:03
going. And look, man, you can argue
50:06
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50:10
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50:12
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50:17
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