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Happy Hour #36: The Power of the Ugly Pic · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
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  Speaker 1: I've never told your production of High Radio. Today is Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: which means it's time for another happy hour. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: just it's exciting here because this could just be a
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  Speaker 1: one off. But it's chillier here in Atlanta today. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we're both wearing hoodies. Yes, yes, and I'm excited. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how long I'll be saying that, but for now, No,
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  Speaker 1: the fall is perfect. So I'm very excited because that
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  Speaker 1: means I can get away with all of my Grandma Cardigan.
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  Speaker 1: The poncho I've been wearing all summer and dying, is
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  Speaker 1: now going to be comfortable. So excited about this, as
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  Speaker 1: well as the fact that all of my air is
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  Speaker 1: off because I can just open a window to get
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  Speaker 1: that bad that last night, so I had to get
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  Speaker 1: out my comforter, y'all. I had to get out my
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  Speaker 1: comforter Buffy Comforter, which we've had for a while now,
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  Speaker 1: and I still love that. Was not trying to be
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  Speaker 1: a promotion or anything, but all have to say is
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  Speaker 1: I love fall. I hate winter. Mm hmm. That should
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  Speaker 1: be stated. Yeah, you do not like cold. I know
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  Speaker 1: that I do. Have my electric blanket in the ready,
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  Speaker 1: like it's next to me in a chair, plugged up,
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  Speaker 1: ready to go. I love when I You've told me
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  Speaker 1: more than once that that is your like most treasured
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  Speaker 1: purchase with the comfort. When I talk Peaches that you
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  Speaker 1: were like, here's the electric blanket, and it was like, summer.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean. I don't know you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about. It was very kind. It was the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of one season. It was still kind of cold and nights.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. I appreciate it. Nonetheless, maybe next time,
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  Speaker 1: maybe next time. So what are you sipping on Savantha today?
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  Speaker 1: Because I am filling this nice chill in the air
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  Speaker 1: and we are wearing hoodies. I decided to go with
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  Speaker 1: my red wine. It's just very fall and so I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want eating iced right now. And this is kind
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  Speaker 1: of a delight for me. So I went back to
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  Speaker 1: my first love, which is a classic key anti. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of love the deep and bold. Yeah, me too,
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of, you know, unfortunately or fortunately silent.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the lambs really popular. So I went to
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  Speaker 1: Tuscany after I graduated college and really loved everything. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: this is not necessarily Tuscany wine because it lighter typically,
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  Speaker 1: But all of that made me fall in love with
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  Speaker 1: Italian wines and Italian reds. So pretentious right now, but
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  Speaker 1: I can't help it. I loved it. No, that's what
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  Speaker 1: you love, got great wine. I do love Italian wines.
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  Speaker 1: I love most if it's I'm more of like a
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  Speaker 1: flavor note person. So if it's like a bold, a
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  Speaker 1: bold rid, then I'll probably like it. I am drinking
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  Speaker 1: grapefruits and gin and easel and sparkling water. It's very nice.
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  Speaker 1: It's very taright though. It's it's doing that mouth watering
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  Speaker 1: thing that we've done before. So wait, did you just
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  Speaker 1: make a yub? No? Mostly, but I didn't put it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have nearly nearly as much jin now. Normally I
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  Speaker 1: just put two shots of gin in that. This is
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  Speaker 1: one shot healthy. I do that for you. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: also doesn't have pepper in it, which I normally put in. Ye, yes,
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  Speaker 1: much will fall asleep faster if people to have a
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  Speaker 1: fun time. I want people to have a fun time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get anybody. Yeah, no, I really
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  Speaker 1: am not. I've learned my listen on that and by
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  Speaker 1: that I say, I just mean like sometimes you forget,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, a shot is this much? But you
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  Speaker 1: should adjust it for the taste of the people around you.
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  Speaker 1: People around you. Yes, uh So this is a kind
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  Speaker 1: of lighthearted followup because we've been doing some tough episodes
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  Speaker 1: lately and they've been great and they're so worthwhile to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. But in particular, this one is kind of
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  Speaker 1: a follow up to the whole not pretty enough thing
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  Speaker 1: about sexual assault that we did for a Monday mini
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  Speaker 1: and so many of you were so kind that you
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  Speaker 1: wrote in, and we're probably going to feature some of
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  Speaker 1: those replies and a future listener mail episode, but kind
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  Speaker 1: of lighten things up a bit. I wanted to talk
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  Speaker 1: about ugly pictures. Let's go. I know, I'm so excited
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  Speaker 1: because you immediately had like a different avenue and I'm
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  Speaker 1: so I can't wait to talk about it. But I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking about how fun and kind of empowering it
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  Speaker 1: can be to take like the ugliest picture possible, and
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  Speaker 1: often when I'm talking about this, because I do want
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  Speaker 1: to be clear that this is usually in in what
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of specifically for you, um, you can post
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  Speaker 1: it if you want. I have a friend who has
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  Speaker 1: a whole account that's just ugly pictures and it's beautiful
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  Speaker 1: and I love it. But this is different than like
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  Speaker 1: when the internet tears a part of woman for having, like,
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  Speaker 1: my god, the smallest amount of fat or whatever that
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  Speaker 1: that is not. That's not even an ugly picture. But
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  Speaker 1: it's different than what I'm talking about. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: when you like make the grossest face and getting the
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  Speaker 1: worst light, trying to really make just the best ugly picture.
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  Speaker 1: And when I say it's empowering, I think it is
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of the times for women, we feel
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  Speaker 1: a pressure like you've got to look good and your
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  Speaker 1: beauty is your value, and if you don't look good,
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  Speaker 1: like everyone's gonna be calling you names or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: But when you just lean in and they're like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I don't care, We're gonna take it's really
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  Speaker 1: ugly picture, it could be surprisingly powerful liberating. Uh. That's
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  Speaker 1: how I always take pictures. I am not a fan
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  Speaker 1: of pictures in general, but I will say that for me,
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  Speaker 1: I love the scrunching of the face and the weird
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  Speaker 1: books and those are my will health, Like that's what
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  Speaker 1: I will do. And I think any of the listeners
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  Speaker 1: who have seen some of the pictures of you and
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  Speaker 1: I that is the face I typically make because it
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  Speaker 1: just makes me happy. Yes, yeah, but that means that's
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  Speaker 1: about you. I guess that's kind of the point. Is
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  Speaker 1: it makes you happy so much of what we do
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  Speaker 1: or what I mean, I will say most women, but
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  Speaker 1: particularly me. I don't want to say for everybody, but
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  Speaker 1: it is even if you don't want it to be,
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  Speaker 1: it is about like other people, and particularly maybe the
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  Speaker 1: male case. And this is so not and it feels
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  Speaker 1: so fun. I a couple of years ago, me and uh,
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  Speaker 1: some good friends of mine spent hours laughing and taking
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  Speaker 1: the ugliest pictures possible, and like later you'd open your
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  Speaker 1: phone and somehow they've gotten into it and like a
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  Speaker 1: picture and you open it and it was so fun
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  Speaker 1: and so funny, and it was it is this like
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  Speaker 1: trust you place in someone else and his vulnerability. But
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  Speaker 1: instead of being like, oh, let's disgusting, you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is a beautiful woman that I love and she's
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  Speaker 1: so funny. Like I don't know, it's it's hard to describe,
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  Speaker 1: but I just it's hard. I couldn't have told you
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  Speaker 1: why it was so funny. And fun. It did feel
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  Speaker 1: kind of like an act of defiance. It did feel
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  Speaker 1: like this beautiful moment of trust between all of us
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  Speaker 1: because we all knew, like, no one's going to post
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  Speaker 1: that picture without you wanting to. No one's gonna say like,
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  Speaker 1: oh wow, how ugly you are, unless it's like an
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  Speaker 1: impressed like how ugly you were able to make your face.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's more about like being silly and kind of
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  Speaker 1: struggling off this pressure to feel beautiful all of the time.
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  Speaker 1: And I do think this is also so many things
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  Speaker 1: we talked about. I get I hesitate because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I have to put Astrix Astrix asterix after everything,
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  Speaker 1: because I do get like the difference between taking a
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  Speaker 1: purposely ugly picture, maybe because you think like you can't
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  Speaker 1: take a pretty picture. It's kind of a security measure, um,
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  Speaker 1: and you feel like you're going to be judged, so
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  Speaker 1: you might as well take kind of a silly picture.
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  Speaker 1: And also just like taking a picture of yourself and
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  Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, I'm the ugly, like feeling it in
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  Speaker 1: your soul. And we've all had that horrifying moment when
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  Speaker 1: you open your phone and the camera is facing you
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  Speaker 1: and not like, oh, gosh. So that's you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: different than what I'm talking about, And those are issues
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  Speaker 1: that we have discussed and probably will discuss again because
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't impact all of us. But I'm talking about, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just going out and just taking this really
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  Speaker 1: purposefully ugly, silly picture for you and for your friends, right,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is fantastic. Yeah, And I did mention
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  Speaker 1: to you about the name, but I think it was
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  Speaker 1: just I have a lot of photos that people tag
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  Speaker 1: me in, but I'm like, I don't like that photos,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm going to hide it essentially, And the like
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  Speaker 1: they said Libra seasons here, which means, oh, I do
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  Speaker 1: not like this photo. It will stay hidden like that
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  Speaker 1: was the me was like, okay, that's a little too real.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think a judgment. I choose what I'll want
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  Speaker 1: to be photoed. I have a weird thing with photos
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  Speaker 1: so in general, which is hilarious because my partner is
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  Speaker 1: a photographer and I'm like, don't you dare, I will
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  Speaker 1: kill you. That is interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the pictures I have of you, you
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  Speaker 1: are making kind of a snark. You face are a
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  Speaker 1: weird like horror face. Well, and what's so funny is
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  Speaker 1: in my so the ones that I'm being tagged in
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  Speaker 1: oftentimes just because I'm not in the photo, I'm behind
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  Speaker 1: the camera because they know I won't don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be in the pictures. I'm like, here, here, here, let
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  Speaker 1: me let me take a picture for you. I got you,
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  Speaker 1: I got you, And they call me the photographer because
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  Speaker 1: I'm like not, this is the best way of not
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  Speaker 1: being in any other unless I could be really silly. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, there is definitely an aspect of of
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  Speaker 1: feeling like, you know what, if I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: in a picture because I feel like my thing is
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times when I think I've taken a
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  Speaker 1: good picture or a sexy picture of Heaven for it,
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  Speaker 1: it's not. And so a silly picture is that? All right?
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  Speaker 1: I will say, I don't know if I've ever attempted
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  Speaker 1: to do a sexy picture like that's not in my
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  Speaker 1: little house to me, even especially if someone tells me
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  Speaker 1: to be sexy, I automatically stop and I say that
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  Speaker 1: in no one's ever like. So we did a photo
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  Speaker 1: shoot in our photographer. He was wonderful, He was so
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  Speaker 1: great and he was willing to meet me where I
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  Speaker 1: was because he was like, you're a goofy and I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out in my past. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder how really he was, like why can't you just
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  Speaker 1: be still? But like if he had at any point
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  Speaker 1: try to tell me to be sexy, I think I
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  Speaker 1: would have just sat there and the most like party
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  Speaker 1: scrunched up triple chin face that I could make, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe even go into the grudge level of like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: here we go. I want to scout everybody instead of
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  Speaker 1: trying to be sexy, because that, to me is just
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  Speaker 1: such a weird. Not because I think it's weird to
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  Speaker 1: take sexy pictures for me and myself missues that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: exist in me. So my automatic self deprecating mechanism is
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  Speaker 1: to be as silly as possible, to the point that
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  Speaker 1: people will get annoyed when they were like, I just
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  Speaker 1: want a good picture, I'm like, but I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to begin this picture. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to tell you this. I feel like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times I'll get so self conscious when people are taking pictures,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll think, you know about everything every fall that
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  Speaker 1: I see, and every time I've tried I mean, my
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  Speaker 1: sexy pictures are so when I say that, it just
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  Speaker 1: means like I try to look sexy in my face.
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  Speaker 1: But I have taken what I consider sexy cosplay photos.
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  Speaker 1: But I do like every time it never looks how
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna look. And that makes me wonder
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  Speaker 1: if I'm trying to emulate something that doesn't work for me, because,
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  Speaker 1: like like you were saying, I think there's an authenticity
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  Speaker 1: that works in photos, Like if if the photographer was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I can see your goofy, and that's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a better photo than like trying to force something that
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  Speaker 1: you don't feel or makes you uncomfortable. So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: all that makes sense to me, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: you know, being photographed can be just a stressful experience anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I hate it. I will be very conchy and just
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  Speaker 1: when something is pointing like a screen is pooring thing
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  Speaker 1: towards me. A partner would just try to like take
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  Speaker 1: pictures in order to get a balance and just to
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  Speaker 1: see the lighting, and I will scream out because I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't want to have anything out there and
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  Speaker 1: God forbid, like even to the point that having a phone.
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  Speaker 1: So we talked about sex before we've talked about all
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  Speaker 1: of these things, and like having relationships with people, a
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  Speaker 1: long disiness relationships and what people would do. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I would struggle. That wouldn't be a thing that I
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  Speaker 1: can do. Like I it's just there's no such picture
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  Speaker 1: of me out there. And of course maybe it's because
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  Speaker 1: I've heard all the horror stories, um, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: hell nah, but I don't feel sexy, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's the way, you know, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: I think my sexiness is sending a picture, so that
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  Speaker 1: all of that is like ingrain. Of course, again, this
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  Speaker 1: is everything to do with self esteem more so than
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  Speaker 1: anything else, and I completely admit that, but again it
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  Speaker 1: is also a self defense mechanism in order to get
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  Speaker 1: past this and not even have to address it in general,
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  Speaker 1: Like I just don't want that to be associated with me,
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  Speaker 1: not because I think it's shameful, but more so that
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  Speaker 1: I am ashamed of my self as being in that direction.
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  Speaker 1: And and that's a whole bigger conversation that I'm taking
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  Speaker 1: it to a darker place, I know, But there is
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  Speaker 1: a layered bit of there's so much to this that
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  Speaker 1: has everything to do with what I see myself and
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  Speaker 1: what people have said of me, and so I can't
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  Speaker 1: let that go, whether it's being thick or you know,
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  Speaker 1: any of those things. Being Asian even to me, had
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  Speaker 1: a whole different connotation of being uh, not as sexy,
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  Speaker 1: not as glamorous, or being too sexy and completely sexualized.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's kind of like both of those things,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know what to do, So
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  Speaker 1: therefore I'm going to do this instead and be as
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  Speaker 1: ugly as I can be. But making a joke, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: now that again, that all makes perfect sense to me.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I meant, I meant for this to
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  Speaker 1: be a light art one. It has, but there is
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  Speaker 1: so much There is so much stuff like that, and
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  Speaker 1: when you're talking about photography or or someone seeing this
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  Speaker 1: image of you, like you can't control how they consume
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  Speaker 1: it and what they attached to you. And a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times that does have to do with how we've
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  Speaker 1: been socialized, or cultural norms or the Patriot key or
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  Speaker 1: white supremacy all that stuff. You can't control that, and
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  Speaker 1: that especially for women in any marginalized intersection, marginalized people,
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  Speaker 1: it can feel like it just puts more in your
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  Speaker 1: head than like taking a simple photo. It's another thing
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  Speaker 1: that you have all of these other considerations going on
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  Speaker 1: in your head, and it does I mean, what we've
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  Speaker 1: been talking about is you know, you're feeling this really
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  Speaker 1: self conscious and that kind of reminds me again of
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  Speaker 1: like when I step outside and I just immediately feel
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  Speaker 1: like this weight of the male gaze. It's the kind
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  Speaker 1: of the same thing of that feels like it's out
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  Speaker 1: of mind control, right, and honestly, in this world of
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  Speaker 1: social media, and we talked about it a little before,
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  Speaker 1: but typically any of this and we talked about with
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  Speaker 1: the facial recognition as well, the type of technology that
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  Speaker 1: is used for our phones and for photography is for
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  Speaker 1: white people. And so if you've never had a really
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  Speaker 1: good photo based on because it doesn't pick up your pigment,
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  Speaker 1: or it doesn't do the justice that it needs to,
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  Speaker 1: or people don't take the effort to find the right lighting,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want that. You don't want that to be
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  Speaker 1: a thing. And then also having that standard culture, Like
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  Speaker 1: again we talked a little bit about how whiteness is
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  Speaker 1: so favored, especially in Korean cultures typically and you see
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  Speaker 1: it with the pop stars and I'll um. And I
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  Speaker 1: love K pop, don't get me wrong, but they definitely
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  Speaker 1: lean into the white skin and being idolizing that level
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  Speaker 1: of pigment, and so therefore you don't love it as much.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I did grow up in the South where
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  Speaker 1: the white women all wanted to be tan, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: did their microaggression towards me because I was automatically browner
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  Speaker 1: than them no matter what. Um, And that was my
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  Speaker 1: contribution of being worth of something is because I was
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  Speaker 1: able to tan easily for the Southern women. It would
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  Speaker 1: trying to say anybody, right, So I have, like, of course,
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  Speaker 1: a different accnotation of it what I grew up with,
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  Speaker 1: But there is this level of trying to fit into
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  Speaker 1: that narrative and then having this kind of juxtaposition of
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  Speaker 1: being not so serious and something that's supposed to be fun,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not created for fun for you or your culture, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking it really into a dark path. I am
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  Speaker 1: so sorry. This is flying people just kidding all we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about. And that's why, like I said, Asterix aster Sastrix,
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  Speaker 1: because nothing is you know, so simple, and and that's
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  Speaker 1: why I like I recommend, you know, go purposefully take
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  Speaker 1: an ugly photo and do it with friends that you
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  Speaker 1: really trust. But yeah, I wouldn't share it. Like the internet, again,
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  Speaker 1: you can't control who will take it. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: scarily enough now people can put can like photoshop things
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  Speaker 1: and edit things and just always be aware of what
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  Speaker 1: your post. I hate that we have to worry about that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like a fearmongerer, but we do.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it can be. It can be really fun
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  Speaker 1: and liberating to just kind of like let all that
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  Speaker 1: see how ugly you can go. It was fun and
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  Speaker 1: again on the deeper note, for me, is about controlling
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  Speaker 1: the narrative and taking that whole power away from others
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  Speaker 1: and putting it to my own power. And I am
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a controlling person, so there that is
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  Speaker 1: I mean I am as well, and I really do
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  Speaker 1: being said, I do have a bunch and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: look through them. If I can find one, maybe I'll
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