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Spitballing Spectacular #185 · The Magic Guys

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They're guys. They do magic. They are the Magic Guys.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 185 of the Magic Guys.
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To my left, we got Nick Kay. Welcome to the show, friend.
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Oh yeah. Now, last week, it's only fair that last week there was one of us not here.
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It was, it was Doug Kahn and Nick Kay. And now this week, Doug Kahn has taken
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it upon himself to enjoy his public holiday in the US.
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And so us Aussies are going to take the episode.
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We're going to, we're going to take the cake today and we're going to take the cake today, mate.
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Well, it never goes well when we don't have adult supervision.
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That's the thing, right?
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Like, you know what, when we don't have Papa Doug monitoring our behavior,
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things go awry, which i think is why everyone
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is signing in with so much excitement and all the
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folks that are signing in let's give them a shout out we have
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dumbest tom dumbest dumbest dominating conger uh
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we have the christian magician we have kate and we have tim askin my good friend
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gary davis we also oh and and speaking of tim askin uh among all the other wonderful
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people who are here like scotty p and so forth our friend tim askin actually
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went to the premiere of one of the
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things we spoke about on last week's podcast which of course was the film with
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john i don't want to say surname correctly or nay god or no way damn it okay.
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Is it going to load once I get my face out of the way? Yes. Yeah.
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Well, okay. For those of you who weren't listening last week,
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we had the amazing Sean Farquhar and amazing director, John Anoy, not Ornay. Anoy? Yeah.
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It's Ornoy. O-R-N-O-Y. Yeah. Just like Mortine.
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Mortine Fresh.
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But they were talking about an amazing film called Lost in the Shuffle.
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And it's of course about the whole mythology of playing cards
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and tim asker went and saw it he posted some really cool photos
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and even more cool than that he wore the magic
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guys t-shirt so thank you tim for representing please for representing one of
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us buddy you are holding the flag high for magic guys and girls all across the
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planet so thank you for representing now yeah that was pretty darn cool that
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was pretty super cool now and i gotta i gotta say it was pretty darn cool to be driving to a gig,
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listening live to our podcast.
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And I thought you guys did a great job at orchestrating it all.
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And isn't Sean just so easy to get to talk?
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Like he seemed to just have a whole body of info to deliver with any question that was asked.
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Totally agree. I think when you're that full of knowledge that it's just easy to spit things out.
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And when you're among people who are more life experienced and have done so
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much, there's just so much to talk about. He's such a pleasure.
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And the thing is, everyone here in Oz, especially in Melbourne,
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there was a convention many years ago.
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So he came here, met everyone and so forth.
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I wasn't actually in Magic at the time. So he hasn't been in Melbourne,
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to my knowledge, for over 17 years, I suppose. So-
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It was nice to actually meet him finally and appreciate how wonderful he is
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because everyone speaks so highly of him.
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So I hope you guys really enjoyed that episode because we had a blast chatting to him.
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It's a shame you missed out Josh, but thank goodness. I was there.
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I was there in spirit and I sent her a speak pipe and I was,
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yeah, I was listening. I was on my way to do a gig for Google.
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Don't want to, you know, don't want to throw names out there, but that was fun.
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Wonderful. Now, as far as this week goes, friends, we all right. I'll talk about it.
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I'll talk about it. it was google it was you know i'll just
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quickly brush up on that since nick asked really fun
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i got to keep a google shirt they gave me a bunch of merch and
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i went undercover as a google pixel nine
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specialist and slowly we pretended like the theme was magic and that we at all
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as specialists learned like a little magic thing to show the crowd so i i taught
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the other two to do just a really simple like one guy was doing the electric
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deck with a deck that's all stuck together so you You can spring it and stop it midair.
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I think I was doing a little silk gag with the, you know, name a number up to
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five and they laughed at that.
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And then I'm like, all right, cool. Name a card. And then I just start springing
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the cards and shooting it out and catching it.
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And everyone's like, what the fuck? And what's really interesting.
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And I'll post of it. It'll probably be my next video that goes up on Instagram is the height of.
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Excitement and applause and awe that the audience gives to someone that they
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don't know as a magician is so absurdly higher than when they know you are that
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it was really interesting.
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Like it got such a heavy response for such a simple thing I would do as an Oprah
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in a show, but because they weren't expecting it, it was like,
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The reaction was like up here is wild. I just throw that out there.
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That's great. Did they leave you a Google review?
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They did. I got a five star review from Google. Let's go.
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I did ask them if they could help me out with Google AdWords,
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but they're like, sorry, we don't have access to that. Apparently,
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Google is separate entities.
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Like, you know, the Pixel 9 phone is kind of separate to, you know,
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Google head office to AdWords and stuff like that. But, boy, it was fun.
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Yeah, it's like I work in the service department. I can't get you a Ferrari.
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I just change the tires on it. Right.
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Exactly, exactly. And thank you, Adonis.
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Love your heckling clip. So that,
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yeah, that video was, that is on my Instagram right now is going nuts.
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It's probably, it's almost up to, as I talk right now, almost 150,000 views,
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which is oh, redonkulous.
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And that was from Google. And funnily enough, the guy that was the heckler found
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that clip and he messaged me and was like, I'm not a heckler with all these like sad faces.
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And I was like, oh no, man, like it's a positive thing. You know,
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it's gotten so much attention from the video.
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I can't thank you enough. And he's like, ha ha, just kidding.
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I'm a heckler. Next time I'm going to shuffle the cards too. And I was like, ha ha ha.
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Funny guy, funny guy, funny guy. Yeah, so I filmed all four shows that I did
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with Google, and it's just about picking the interesting parts that I like to
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share with the online audience.
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So, yeah, yeah, thanks for asking, Nick, just so I quickly mention that stuff about Google.
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Yeah, that's really cool. Anyway, you were saying? What did they serve at the
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thing? Did they feed you? What kind of meals did they have? Let's really dive
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into this Google experience.
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Well, I'll tell you what. They had a main floor with
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all the different trade show booths of your your main companies because this
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is for the the telstra frontline conference so in australia telstra will just
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bring in all these kind of speakers and stuff for all the telstra stores just
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for reference to the international listeners telstra is a telecommunications.
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Probably our biggest one in australia so you know yeah i think and tower goes
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through that let's not assume anything joshua sorry you're right you're right
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i think in the u.s it's called telco maybe But it's like our main operator,
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right? It's like one of the main default ones.
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So they bring in all of the customer service call centers to come in,
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as well as all of the Telstra stores, all the head office people.
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It's like 1,200 people to do with Telstra. That's a good number.
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Yeah. Google was one of the main sponsors, so that's why they had their own
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breakout session with me involved. They also had Samsung. sung.
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Interestingly enough, Apple doesn't even bother to appear at this conference
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because they have 60% of the market share in Australia anyway.
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And there's a few others, but so in the main room, yeah, when it's lunchtime,
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they rolled out a massive spread of food.
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I'm talking wraps, I'm talking burgers, salads, pastas, all on like a buffet
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kind of tray enough to feed 1200 people And free soft drink, Nick.
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I can't tell you how much I appreciate a free Coke No Sugar. That is awesome.
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She's going to say, you do not seem like a soft drink consumer or that you have any sugar at all.
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Like it's, yeah. You don't know me.
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You know the 2D version of me. No, I'm very, I mean, look, right now I'm drinking
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a mother, but it is a zero sugar mother.
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And so, yeah, Coke, no sugar, Pepsi Max.
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When I have a full strength, full strength, a Coke with sugar in it.
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When I have a Coke with sugar in it, it just is a little too much for me.
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Like the sugar hit, I'll have a, you know, cause then you have the dip and get tired.
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But I find this just sort of gives me a bit of a bazinga and I can keep going.
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Doesn't, doesn't bother me. But the thing I'll just end on is in this trade
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show area where all of the main companies are set up, I think next to Apple,
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Samsung is the next biggest share of the market because they have,
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and what I also didn't realize is Google owns Android, like as in the app maker,
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like iOS is owned by Apple.
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Google actually owns Android, which is what all the Samsung phones use to operate
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all their apps as well, which is interesting.
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So Samsung had the biggest booth in the trade show area and what What they did
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as a big F you to everyone is they spent $1 million building what looks like a life-size yacht.
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In the middle of the trade show exhibition area
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and it looks like it's half submerged
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in the water so it's it's the half that would be above
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the water that's sitting on the ground and they've
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made it look like it's in water they had full-on decks
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on board this fucking ship that got built like
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in the convention center for this purpose there's
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a dj stand you're saying this is where a trade show
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stand this is the exhibit area yeah the
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trade show area but they've just paid to have
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the entire middle cut out
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of this area whereas everyone else
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is sort of along the walls of this massive convention
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center and they've spent a million dollars and on board
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i can't believe i'm saying that on board this ship which is.
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Not real there was a dj deck there was like
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all these levels of stuff happening people could actually lay
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on like beach chairs like within
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this ship within this convention center and and
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yeah the google people are telling me once this convention ends it's
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all just getting trashed like it's all just getting dismantled and
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they've literally spent a million dollars just to
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be like hey we are
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awesome and it'll go
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into a container somewhere somewhere it'll end up at the the what's
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it called the wolf something or other storage where they keep all that stuff
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and then it'll have to come back out it's too big a prop for that to happen
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so i mean there was a lot of branded signage for this particular 2024 conference
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but that that was the word on the street it cost a million dollars and it's
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all getting biffed like in two days time.
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Yeah i mean it's phenomenal how much money goes into these trade shows
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i remember doing trade shows back in the day when i was working the audio
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visual game and we would put i think like a couple of months profit into putting
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into doing our stand and you know we would go all out this is prior to me getting
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into magic so it's yeah it's it's money to be spent money to be gained so and
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it's a statement so yeah yeah that that's what it really was was a statement,
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But I must say, you know, I think everyone got a lot more entertainment out
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of just having me for a fraction of that cost.
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I hope that influences the spectacle and I hope that it gives more opportunities
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for magicians to do more trade shows because this just doesn't seem to be a
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market that we have here.
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So I think that creatively, if we can penetrate that market and influence people
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to do more, I think that would be great for all involved.
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Absolutely. And little shout out to our bro, Adam Axford in Sydney.
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And he referred a trade show client to me here in Brisbane, which I'm doing
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next Monday. So thank you, sir.
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I got a gig from our fellow Magi because that's the community we try to build
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in Australia to get gigs for our friends.
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And he, so funny you say trade show, I'm actually doing one on Monday from our mate in Sydney.
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So yeah. What a world we live in, Nick.
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Absolutely. And if you haven't listened to Adam Axford's episode, we
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should probably drop a link for that because it's one of the most prolific episodes
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and the amount of advice and knowledge he can like the feedback
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we got in that episode was phenomenal so after listening
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to this one do a little back search look up adam axford
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and scope out that episode for sure absolutely now
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nick what have you been up to really quick i've talked about myself a lot how
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many what's what's the latest with you what's going on gigs lots of gigs gigs
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conferences just going through my phone as we speak to check how many i did
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end of the month is always busy on two three four five.
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Only six this week so yeah and
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i had like two full through this week which is a bit of a shame but
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i've been busy i gotta do a conference tonight and then
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i'm gonna meet with my prop builder afterwards which i'm really excited about
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i'm building some new stuff yes i'm working with well there's a gentleman that
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i've been meaning to work alongside for a while and we weren't the closest of
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friends but it was like i knew him and he knew me so what i did was i actually
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put together a whole deck of these ideas that i had and i sent him one and i was like this is a deck,
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and with all the scribbles and drawings and things for my notepads and things
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like that and like things that I want to sort of have achieved.
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And I sent it to him with video explanations and everything like that.
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And I was like, here's a deck of what I want to create. Do you want to do a project with me?
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And he was like, I'm on board. And so I'm going over to his place tonight to do a couple of things.
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And I think that he's already like duct taped up some prototypes.
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And I was just sort of like put together an invoice.
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Let's just get the ball rolling. So stay tuned for that level of creativity
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which is perfect for leading into what this episode is about.
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Because what it's about, friends, is spitballing.
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It sure is. And to make sure I'm ready for that, we're just going to bring it back one more time.
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So what we're talking about today is spitballing.
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Spitballing.
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There we go. We are professional. So we, I reached out to our friends in discord.
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If you're not in the discord, I believe there's a link to it in this video where
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we just sort of more behind the scenes, more shenanary, shenanary,
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shenanigans, like posting photos of us in our green rooms before our gigs or
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roasting each other with our videos, all that fun stuff.
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Anyway, if you're interested, you can, you know, be a nerd with us,
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but I put out there, I'm like, Hey guys, as we're doing this, send us your spitballs.
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And essentially a spitball is ideas you have that aren't maybe fully flushed
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out yet, or something new you discovered or a premise you want us to explore.
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And our first one here comes from Seth. I believe Seth's in the chat today,
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but let's go ahead and that's it.
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So with our word, let's play his spitball and I'm going to watch Nick for the
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audio level okay here we go hey hope
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y'all are doing well uh spitball in time so i
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live in nashville tennessee where more than half of
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the people i perform for are musicians myself included used to be in a band
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hey and i've had the idea of instead of doing coin magic to do it with guitar
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picks and outside of sort of
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making a split pick and doing sort of like a copper silver type routine,
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I am struggling to think of other things to do. So I was wondering what y'all got for me. Cheers.
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Oh, here we go. I can see Nick's brain just firing off. Take it away.
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So let's identify what we're talking about. We're talking about the pic,
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the plectrum, and that as a actual object, a prop.
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What can you do with that? So you got the premises and magic.
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So you got transposition.
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So instead of doing a coins across, you can do a pics across cross with
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really fun goshman pinch type going across i
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would like to see what you could explore with
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actual gimmicking the picks themselves so
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for example they come in many different colors so you
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can do you know yellow on one side red in the other and
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then do copper silver things of that nature or just color changing options as
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well you're probably just as easily you know stick two of them together because
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they all for the most part if you're using the tortoise ones picks that i have
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they'll be the same size i also wonder if you could do like a shell,
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for something like this there's some particular shot
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picks that are called like teardrops and they're engineered for really fast
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playing but for plucking and i wonder if you could do something where you sort
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of did that type of pickup pick a shell up or or this thing of that nature i
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think that would be really fun too but i think that it really opens the door
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up because ultimately Ultimately,
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you're just going, let's look at coin stuff we can do.
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For a close-up, if we're doing it in a close-up setting, which being a small
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prop, I think we should stay that way.
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But what coin routines could you do and apply it to a pick? I wonder if you
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can muscle pass it. Give me a sec.
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While he grabs one, let me also point out Scotty's comment saying you could
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also play with the patter of pick a card, which is interesting. So you can say pick.
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Oh, here we go. It's sharp.
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No? No good? No. oh it's just
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one try here we go because it's sharp on the corner so
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when you try to muscle pass it it just kind of ow oh
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okay what about retention what about a little
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retentiony vanish okay so i mean
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you could do stuff up here right and then that's
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right that's good that's good like bring it back again right very easily you
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can sort of do transfer and then production as well so there's a so if you just
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play with all your coin slides in this type of thing because you could do like
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down down's palm yeah i mean i could i could obviously see you doing a three fly,
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right easy i i would i would do a lot more like pick on shoulder pick under watch,
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type stuff yeah i would just use this what about what about the idea of just
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just for variety what What if you peel a card back and actually put a pick into a card?
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Let's say we roll with what Scotty P was saying with pick a card,
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pick a card, you force that card on them,
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then you have a pick and you do a vanish that Nick was just doing and it reappears
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inside the card that they are holding, that they've picked.
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That's kind of interesting, right? As a plot, pick to impossible location.
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Yeah. you could do picked yeah you always thought as well if you cut a hole
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in the center of it perhaps we had like a big pick and then you were like we
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need to pick a word and then what you do is so let's say that you have like
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i'm just like okay it's like imagine this were a book,
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you know and you like just put the the pick
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over the word and they go like this like and with their finger and
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they cover it and then when they say stop they move it away way and you can read the word
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oh yeah right right as well so you're gonna
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pick a word pick this if you're gonna play on yeah i've
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always thought it would be cool to do a routine where
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you're playing the guitar you've shown your pick and as you're playing you're
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doing the process of elimination to name a card and by the end your guitar makes
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a funny sound and then people realize you're picking with a card now like a
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folded up card oh yeah gabrielle gabrielle did that actually in his act,
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there's a whole song that he wrote with it the card that you discard or something
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like that and it's actually on like Apple Music you can go and scope that out.
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Yeah, yeah. And basically, but his motivation was different because he actually
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folds a card first and then they choose a card.
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And it's the one that he folded up at the very beginning being the one they
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thought of as opposed to it being a transformation.
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Yeah. And that would be really clever because you could just do your plectrum
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through the whole routine, finger palming a mercury-folded card and just throw
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this into the sound hole.
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Oh, yeah, you've got your own topic. it because you
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got a hole you got a hole in the guitar so let's just say that
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you had like in finger palm and you're
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playing away and then just do the a little shoot into your hole of the guitar
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and it just appears could you somehow this is going pretty out there but could
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you somehow have an index system within the guitar inside that with a magnet
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you can like pull it out of the.
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From wherever it is inside the acoustic guitar
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to out you know i would put it on the back of it
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oh yeah the back might be easier such a huge level
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of real estate behind it and you could just sort of you know
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actually you're right and then you could just ditch the at
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some point if you wanted to yeah i
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would you know discard the back stuff yeah wow
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so you could have yeah so imagine you have
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an index system on the back of the guitar if it
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is the card version you're playing with your pick and
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at some point you find a way to load that
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from the back and you can
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sort of even if you want to do it visually you could wave the
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pick and push the card in front of it you know this
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is good yeah it would be
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a really really fun idea or even just to like i
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mean i don't know how much it would cost yeah
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but like for example you'd be like you know for 50
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cents and you can do like a change into the pick yeah so
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like i mean i mean you could even you know that latest which i have somewhere
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tobias dostol's liquefy you could even do that to a pick for sure you know i
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prefer my picks to be a little sharper so i melt them down first and boom there
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we go oh yeah Yeah, perfect.
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Yeah. Take someone's. That's, there's a lot of fun stuff to be had with pics.
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Just discovering more and more. Obviously you could, you could do like that,
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um, Hershey's kiss trick that Cyril Takiyama
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created where you have an image of a pic appear on the back of a card and it's
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on their sign card and then you pop it off into the hand into real life and
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the picture's gone. Yeah.
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Yeah, you can also write stuff on these as well. And you can make a revelation
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appear on this very, very easily
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just by doing a simple rotation of a pick because it's double-sided.
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So you could do something where you could do something almost to the effect of that.
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You know, it's that routine where you just put marks all over a playing card
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and then you do a diamond change and then it changes into their name.
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You could do stuff like that, you know?
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Can you do a flipstick kind of move with a pick?
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Yeah, you would do it just like you would a double-sided coin, though.
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But the answer is yes you can totally show yeah you
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can do a matrix really easily as well yeah so
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people are mentioning some a couple of things signed pick
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to shoe that's interesting shadow coins with picks pick to watch which i think
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we were mentioning pick the symbol yeah plastic yeah you know yeah absolutely
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and if you're doing that simple flip stick move you could just you know on On
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the fly with the Sharpie,
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you could put like two and then a diamond, right?
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And you show that it's just a pick.
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You put it in their hand, but on their fingers. So when they close it,
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now you do your magic, get them to pick two diamonds.
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And when they open, it's going to show two of diamonds because it's flipped
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over from them closing their hand.
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Fun stuff, man. All right. That was cool. I think that's a good amount of stuff
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to work with. What do you think?
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Yeah. and you know when you come up with ideas my guy
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seth just like by all means take a
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photograph share them in the discord we are a community we can
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play with this for as long as you like man um he also mentions here i had an
24:47
idea of one picking with writing on both sides a one pick with writing on both
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sides the others only have one side have them drop them and eliminate them oh
24:57
that's a great idea you know that whole thing you drop them and you drop them until Yeah,
25:03
that's a great idea, Seth. Yeah.
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I like it. All right. Let's go on to our fellow, very creative brother, Scotty P. Scotty P!
25:16
Oh, I just realized. Extension of something that Nick K. Oh,
25:20
damn it. All right. All right.
25:21
So he's just said, hey guys, it's Scotty P, Myth Trick Magician.
25:24
This is an extension of something Nick K has touched on. Okay.
25:29
I'll keep going. He did it at the Theater of Magic.
25:31
So he did this trick where he peeled numbers off a calculator and made them disappear.
25:37
Here one by one for my brother's birthday i actually
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had him select a card and i left it face
25:43
up on the table and i then used a
25:45
calculator force to force his birthday onto the calculator and
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peeled his birthday numbers off one by one threw them
25:52
onto his card and then when he turned the card over on
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the back were the white numbers that made
25:58
up his birthday and i just used white stickers that
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i got from a dollar store okay nice
26:05
and on the screen is the reference of scotty
26:08
what he's talking about with the numbers that look like
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the same font as calculator on the
26:14
card nick yes so the premise of this would be use
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an iphone calculator you put the numbers which will be showing in
26:20
white on a black backdrop as you peel them off one by
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one you throw them onto the back design of a
26:26
playing card and so yeah that that's actually to me
26:29
seems like a really fully fleshed idea like there's very
26:32
little that needs to be sort of done there yeah i think you're right that's
26:37
something that you yeah like you just came up with this to do for your brother
26:42
i think you said but you know that seems like something that could continue
26:45
to be performed yeah i mean.
26:51
And then you sort of created an impossible object where you have a playing card
26:55
if i were going to to make a suggestion.
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There's these little alligator clip things. I'm going to grab it. Give me one sec.
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Is this the thing I think you're showing us from Magic Life?
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No, I'm just saying you get these little things, right?
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So you just get a little alligator clip. They've got weights.
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My one has love hearts on the bottom.
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But you can clip this on a card for them and then go as a gift, and then they keep that.
27:23
And it just makes this a little bit more permanent for the little not even $1
27:28
investment for a bunch of these. I just think that would be something.
27:32
Would be kind of nice and they would keep that you know like he did that if you did that for a
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family member or a friend or a corporate in any capacity because
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you could the premise of this actually goes a
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lot further than what you think like i mean yes he did it with a he
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did it with with a calculator but what if you took the premise of
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something being written and appearing on a playing card
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right let's say that you you got rid
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of like one word from a menu which you just
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erased out what if you look you
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know like what if you scratched out like one of the pips of a
28:04
playing card here so they chose a card you cover
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it with your finger but then with the pip missing you took it off and you threw
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it on the back of their playing card here and then you just clip it and give
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it to them these would just be little moments that if people if you make it
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something that's a souvenir that can be nicely displayed it just means that
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there's always going to be a little reminder that you exist.
28:27
Here we go. Or yeah.
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Or a friction pen, even better. Yeah. So the friction pens, if you don't know.
28:35
They're ink that can vanish when heat is applied to them.
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So it's a really magical thing you can do when you apply a lighter and you just
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see these words vanish off a page, for example. So.
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I think that it's really cool to be able to apply that.
28:55
I remember I did it for a friend of mine who was moving to the US, was moving to New York.
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He only just came back recently and we reconnected. It was awesome.
29:05
And we used to have a saying as we were sort of coming up in our younger 20s.
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And we used to say to each other, I'll see you when you get there.
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Knowing that we were destined for greater things.
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And it was so it was always like just keep going i'll
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see you when you get there keep going i'll see you when you get there and we
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always made a promise that like we would meet when we're in better places right
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because we were working really hard and we came from nothing and before he moved
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to the u.s i wrote down this whole script on a on a like going away card and i wrote it for him,
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and then i gave it to him and he read it and he
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was like that's really cool man and then i grabbed the lighter and i made all the
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ink vanish and at the end of it the only words that remained said i'll
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see you when you get there and let's go
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and he loved it and to my knowledge i think he still has it like it's um those
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little moments that you that you get to keep and i think scotty was on the money
30:05
like doing it with an important date to go on the cat like using the calculator is just.
30:11
Like so strong, you know, so great combo, Scotty, you know, he's coming up with some great things.
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His, uh, his gig, your gig, Scotty must be coming up soon.
30:21
We talked about it on a previous episode of big charity gala in Brisbane.
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Scotty got booked, got himself booked for reached out to them and got booked.
30:29
So, you know, maybe something to savor for that group that are invested to watch
30:35
you again and see you do something really crazy. You know, he says it's this Saturday.
30:40
So yeah man yeah yeah with that level of creativity man you were gonna crush
30:47
it but i think that like the interesting part i mean the routine itself i don't
30:50
think particularly needs work the one you did for your brother but when you
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dissect the pillars that hold up what makes it a strong effect,
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is the fact that something is appearing on the back of a playing card is like
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one of the pillars the other pillar is that it's personal and it's important
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and so the important thing being what was written, the birth date, the company's logo,
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the slogan, the message of I'll see you when you get there.
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And I think that when you look at the pillars of what makes it a strong routine,
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man, you got a lot of creativity there.
31:23
Scotty, we're going to need a debrief. Maybe it's a video, maybe it's a speak pipe.
31:27
We're going to need a debrief of how your gig goes because it's exciting to
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see someone that's been a hobbyist and enthusiast for a long time get thrown
31:35
into to the trenches of, of unsuspecting muggles. So mate, that's great.
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And you know what? It's this Saturday.
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So in Brisbane, Scotty P will be gigging and Michael Amar will be gigging in
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Brisbane. Two wonderful magicians.
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Michael at the Theatre of Magic and then Scotty P in Brisbane City Hall, I think.
31:56
There you go. Bloody hell. All right. We have another speak pipe from Matthew.
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Matthew, the Christian magician.
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He sent in this one and re-recorded it a couple of times. Appreciate it to get
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that quality. So let's see what Matthew's doing.
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Okay. So, yeah, I have actually a cool idea, I think.
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He uses a Hot Wheels car or a monster truck and a deck of cards.
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So, you get the card signed and selected, make a little ramp with the cards,
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and tell the spectator that the monster truck is going to jump the ramp and find the card.
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And, well, it misses, like, badly. And it goes over and hits the card box,
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which is at the corner of the map, right?
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And you say, okay, you know what? That was kind of crappy.
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Let's do this a more traditional way. You go through the deck,
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you have them tell you their card, and it's actually nowhere to be found in the deck.
32:54
And so when this is realized, you pick up the monster truck and say,
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Hey, I wonder if he was right all along.
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Pick up the monster truck, the card is inside the box. My question is,
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what is the most organic way to load the card into the box?
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Because I know I could just easily palm it off and pretend to pull it out,
33:16
but I want a more organic way than that.
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Thanks for the advice or help and have a blessed night.
33:24
Yeah, I mean, I've got the easy answer if we just want just a straightforward
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answer. Should we say it on three?
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One, two, three. Arzy Wins Card to Box Project.
33:39
That's awesome. Yeah, well, obviously a duplicate would make it a no-brainer.
33:45
But Arzy Wins Card to Box Project is the best way I've ever learned,
33:51
and I'm using it every gig I do for getting the actual card that's in the deck into a box.
33:57
So, of course, it could be signed or it could be a thought-of card, a named card, whatever.
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I won't say any more about it other than you can go to Arzi Wind,
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which is A-S-I-W-I-N-D.
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You can go to his website, go to the trick section, and find it's a download
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card-to-box project. You will not be disappointed.
34:17
But if we explore the premise a bit more, you know, What other thing can we play with?
34:22
Well, can I say that when you want to achieve something, you don't have to actually
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do what you're doing. Let me explain.
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You don't have to actually put the card in the box. You only need to make it
34:34
appear as if you're putting the card in the box.
34:38
So let's just say you had an empty box with a folded card inside there, okay?
34:46
That's, you know, loosely tied down. And then you're able to do a Mercury card
34:51
fold and show there is something inside the box and dump the contents of the box out.
34:59
Showing the one that you've already got mercury folded that's one
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solution right if that's something you really want to
35:05
lean into right i i feel
35:09
like i need a moment to explore stuff with the cars i
35:13
think well what already comes to mind when you
35:16
say that is now to make it a level better maybe it's
35:19
the hot wheels box that the car comes out of that ends
35:22
up having the folded card inside side that you
35:25
can turn over and and dump out yeah
35:29
the card which then becomes theirs like that makes it a little
35:31
bit better now other than rather than just the card box
35:34
right like you take it the car out of the box and you sit the box on
35:37
the corner of your pad okay yeah cool do your routine well and and here's another
35:43
thing i was thinking like i don't know if a monster truck would suit this exactly
35:46
but if i was gonna do something where it went wrong i would like to do it like
35:53
this So let's just say you have a car,
35:55
a card, you know, that that's like you spring the cards at a car as it goes
35:59
through or something like that.
36:01
And then attached to it is the wrong card. Okay.
36:05
If the card was, this was a bit larger than a, than, than, than a playing card,
36:10
I would like to have the correct playing card below it as a double.
36:16
And then I would lay it down like this.
36:20
And then as the car drives over it, this would be shimmed with a metal in between
36:25
it or something behind it, perhaps. Right.
36:27
So then as the car drives over it, this would contact.
36:32
So it looks like the car did the magic as it drives over. So it would just be
36:35
this magical moment of like the car still, like it might've screwed the trick
36:39
up, but it also fixed the trick.
36:41
So I kind of like that as an idea, but I don't know.
36:44
There's a couple of restrictions there. Yeah, monster trucks have a lot of.
36:49
Height between tires and stuff so if it were like flatter and
36:51
wider depending on the size of it that might work but
36:55
i i like the idea yeah of it
36:59
on the car doing some magic right so i've explored a couple of things with remote
37:04
controlled cars i did a gig for a ferrari group where people who all own ferraris
37:10
come to meet up so i i bought a remote controlled ferrari that's about as big
37:14
as I don't know, a shoe and I,
37:17
I, I attached a magnet to it because the, a Ferrari is very low anyway.
37:23
And I shimmed a card. What kind of what Nick's explaining and then whatever
37:28
their sign, and I would spread the cars out in a line and anyone can explore this.
37:33
I think there's some tricks that are sort of based on this premise,
37:35
but I would just have their sign card be the next card after the shimmed card.
37:40
And what would happen is the car would hit it and it stops because it's on cards,
37:45
which are not a solid object.
37:47
So once it hits the magnet one, it would, the wheels would just keep spinning
37:52
because it can't go past that card now.
37:54
And it would create, it would basically separate the deck from the next card,
37:58
which is their signed card.
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And so it's something to play with. So it would, it would go,
38:03
it would connect to the card and it would stop driving because it's so low already.
38:06
You can't go any further and it would find it. And then the other thing I realized
38:11
is if you get a string or for this one, I used like a ribbon and you attach, how did I do this?
38:19
You attach one end of the ribbon to the car and you wrap it around the deck
38:26
and you treat it like a rubber band trick. So you have.
38:30
Anyone interested, I could probably send you a more in-detailed video.
38:34
But basically, when the Ferrari drives off and you've got the deck wrapped around
38:38
this ribbon, it undoes it and it shoots out one card.
38:42
Oh. There's that as like a reveal. You know, like, you know,
38:46
the one where you put the band around your hand and you drop the deck and one
38:49
card shoots up onto your hand?
38:50
It's the same. It's the, basically, you treat it like that trick, except it's a string.
38:56
And what happens is the deck just flips over but
38:59
the one that's rigged differently in the
39:02
silk in the ribbon shoots out separately and you
39:06
can explore that as well it's a little bit different to that but now you know
39:12
trying to look for a deck of cards how do i not have a deck of cards in front
39:15
of me this is so weird here we go but yeah you can now you got two phases of of one trick Here we go.
39:22
So basically, if everyone watching this, I'm referring to this thing here where
39:28
you can go boom like that and have a card shoot up.
39:32
But if this is just a string now and you rig it up the same way and you just
39:36
pull one end, this will flip and one card will just kind of come out by itself.
39:42
Anyway, I digress. What an interesting thing to listen to in audio when I'm
39:46
going, you take this and you do that and it flicks out. I'm sorry, people.
39:50
Yeah. Yeah, I was just thinking that like it probably wouldn't apply to a Hot
39:54
Wheels car, but if it was a remote car, you could almost jerry-rig a type of
39:58
card fountain because you would have this spinny wheel and rubber.
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And so if you applied that to a deck, you could have cards shooting out.
40:07
So it could be the type of thing where if you were going to use a remote,
40:10
you could have the car lower down and do almost like a card grab from the air.
40:16
Air so like all these cards are spitting up from the card fountain experience
40:19
but you're just reaching out and plucking one you know yeah not the way we're
40:24
really going because that was video was genuinely skill but oh yeah oh yeah
40:29
yeah yeah so yeah we've kind of taken it to an extreme level.
40:36
But if we bring it back for the application
40:40
that matthew was mentioning yeah i
40:43
reckon you could have a folder cart already
40:46
in the box dump it out or in the car box or yeah
40:51
have i still think any even if you're not
40:53
going to do the car thing everyone should look up azzy wins
40:56
car to box project it's freaking just it fools every magician that i show it
41:01
to that unless they're aware of it which they only have if they've researched
41:06
one time marisa's work or azzy wins work i just haven't seen it and it's just
41:10
it's just very fun but you can load right under their nose a signed card in the box.
41:16
Anyway, but like the other things we were talking about, it becomes way more
41:19
fun, like shimming a car and, you know, things like that. Very fun.
41:22
Yeah. All right. We've got one.
41:25
Yeah. Tell me. Well, and that depends on the size of the vehicle and everything else.
41:29
But like, I think that if the question with regards to how do I get it in the
41:34
box in the cleanest way, if you could do a Mercury card fold, do it that cheeky way.
41:38
I think that'll work really, really well. And obviously, take a moment to actually
41:41
read through some of the comments we hadn't mentioned in the chat as well there,
41:44
Matt, because there are some really cool ideas that Jesse had mentioned and a few others.
41:48
So have a little read through while that goes through as we march on to the next.
41:53
Yeah, we got one more speak part again from Scotty P coming in with the double
41:57
dose of goodness. So we thank you for that.
42:00
And let's see what Scotty has to follow up from his first one.
42:04
It's pretty good. See what the second one is.
42:07
What's going on, Magic guys? Scotty P once again I thought
42:10
I'd share this idea as well because this one worked quite
42:13
well at a recent party I went to I had
42:16
the spectator select the card and sign the face of the
42:19
card and then on the back of it I drew a leaf and I drew a ladybug when I put
42:25
the sharpie in my pocket I loaded a little wooden ladybug into finger palm loaded
42:32
it underneath their card and then popped dropped the ladybug into their hand.
42:37
And when they looked at their card a second time, the ladybug that I drew on
42:41
the back had disappeared and it was just a picture of an empty leaf on their signed card.
42:46
Okay. So essentially that is lucky ladybug, except for you're drawing the objects
42:55
that are disappearing, which, which makes it different. Like which it's a unique application.
43:00
It sounds very raw right now. Like, Hey, I'm going to draw this.
43:03
I'm going to draw this. Oh, look, this is gone and it's in your hand now.
43:07
I still think it would be best to, you know, have it appear on the back of their
43:11
hand, like lucky ladybug, but yeah.
43:13
Maybe there's something in there where the picture can visually be.
43:19
Disappear that's that's what comes to mind initially yeah well a friction pen
43:24
that we mentioned earlier might be a fun idea yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so you
43:29
you had the leaf maybe already drawn on yeah i'm rather i'm thinking maybe like
43:35
an out to lunch principle type thing.
43:38
Which might be what scotty did in his method right but yeah yeah maybe that's it out to lunch
43:43
sign this you know boom hold on
43:47
to it here we go the reason i bring that up is if you had an out to lunch principle
43:50
type thing you could actually in advance stick some
43:54
ladybugs to the underside of the stack that you
43:56
would have for the out to lunch and then
44:00
you know in that action you can steal it off the bottom as opposed to having
44:04
to make the steal when putting the pen away you can actually be so far ahead
44:07
of the game by doing that yeah so you would have that like if this was get out
44:13
to lunch this pack of playing cards i'm holding it would just be the line going across,
44:17
you draw a thing on it you know and then
44:20
you've already stolen it here as you come over to put it
44:23
in their hands i think that would yeah that's very fun yeah you know that creates
44:29
a little bit more work as opposed to using the cards that you get with lucky
44:34
ladybug but you know you want to be different you want to put your own spin
44:37
on it that definitely puts a spin on it It'd be cool if you could,
44:41
and you could do that with your business cards, right?
44:43
Because there's enough card tricks in the world. If you do it with your business
44:47
card, now they're going to keep that and it's not a card trick and it is still
44:51
an ink to life premise and with a ladybug appearing on the hand.
44:56
That's a pretty killer trick when you think about it.
45:00
Yeah. Scotty's saying that's heaps better. I used a forced duplicate.
45:05
Yeah, right. So yeah, out to lunch principle. Now it can be signed.
45:08
Now it can be kept. You just get a whole bunch of them.
45:10
Or a drink coaster. That's organic. Yeah.
45:14
Way to take it somewhere else. Nice one. But if it is, yeah.
45:21
Maybe for Scotty P, his business cards are coasters. We don't know.
45:25
But I think if it's a business card, you know, that's all the more reason they
45:28
might actually keep it, right?
45:30
Because you've got to give people a reason to want to actually hang on to your
45:34
business card these days, which is why personally I don't give them out unless
45:38
people ask me for them because then I'm like, okay, you have a reason for this.
45:44
Love it. That's good. That's good. How are you going with Lucky Ladybug?
45:49
Is it every week you're working it to some kind of audience person?
45:54
Person is what does it just do you just wait until
45:57
there's happens to be a kid that comes through
46:00
that you're like ah sweet or you're doing this for everyone what
46:03
are you finding with it now that you've done it i think i think it's such a
46:06
special routine that you kind of want to save it for somebody special you know
46:11
a birthday kid a birthday person you know it is great it's it's so and because
46:19
it is special like i feel like you got to give it to somebody who's who's special.
46:23
Or someone who needs it you know what i mean you might see someone who's like
46:26
hey kiddo what's going on or you've had a rough week let me do something fun
46:29
for you how are you going oh i've had a bad week i lost my job blah blah blah
46:33
and then you give them a little gift of luck,
46:35
it's kind of special you know you don't need to be giving that trick to mr douchebag
46:39
who's like no no let me shuffle yeah fuck that guy and i gotta tell you too
46:44
lucky ladybugs don't taste too bad either.
46:47
And I say that because in my left outside jacket pocket is normally where I
46:53
place two Eclipse mints in my pocket. I think I've told, I told Nick this story.
46:59
So I have, I pop two mints in my mouth before I go to a gig.
47:03
And if I'm roving for two hours, one hour in, I'll put these two mints in my mouth.
47:08
But it was for a while, also the same place I was putting the lucky ladybug
47:12
refills as well, that same pocket.
47:15
And I'd done a gig the day before and forgot that I left those ladybugs in there.
47:20
So I go ahead and pop these mints in my jacket and I'm roving and I'm like,
47:25
oh, cool, it's an hour in, I just grabbed two mints, put them in my mouth.
47:28
And it turned out one was a mint and one was a lucky ladybug.
47:32
And I'm like, why is this mint not dissolving and what the fuck is going on?
47:37
And I realized I'm eating a ladybug.
47:41
And so, yeah, I finished it like a champ and continued on roving and it was fine.
47:47
Non-toxic, I think, I hope. So anyway, same size as the net.
47:52
You know, I had the bag. So for those of you that are familiar,
47:57
they normally come in like what looks like a little G bag.
47:59
You know what I mean? Like a little party bag, if you will. Yeah, a little G banger.
48:04
Yeah, well, it's full to the brim. So mine has maybe a dozen or so ladybugs in it.
48:10
But i was performing at this irish pub for a
48:12
buck's turn on saturday and i don't
48:15
know what i was doing but i was it fell out of my pocket in some
48:18
capacity and all the guys were so excited because
48:21
they thought they were pingers they were like pingers and i was like they're
48:24
ladybugs i'm sorry like but that could have been exciting yeah seth have you
48:30
told buck that story yet i have not but anyone feel free to link him to this
48:35
part of the podcast because it is funny there's some now Now, before we press on,
48:41
seeing we've finished the last one, there's a question here from Jesse.
48:44
Can we bring this to attention? It says here, is there a trick with note cards
48:48
that have sketch drawings on them, like a show and tell idea or postcards from remote locations?
48:55
And you can talk about this ladybug you met and how it followed you home. That's a cute idea.
49:03
So are these sketch drawings, each one is the ladybug in a different location
49:09
you've traveled to? Well, possibly.
49:13
That's interesting. I like what he's going with. Like the fact that there's
49:17
this lucky ladybug that follows you around everywhere.
49:20
The idea of that in a macro sense is pretty fun.
49:26
Especially if you foreshadowed it.
49:29
Earlier in a routine about this ladybug
49:32
but then you slide track them by
49:35
saying that the trick's not about that it's about this thing you
49:38
were doing at the time that made it keep following you or something and
49:41
then at the end the ladybug appears you know well
49:44
i think it's important to have like good luck on your travels godspeed
49:47
that whole sort of thing that you say when people
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are traveling and i think it's kind of important to do a trick where you say
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like i've been very lucky in my travel it's always important to have luck in
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your travels and then you show the places you have traveled and then you can
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give somebody a ladybug and you can say that i wish you all the best of luck
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in your travels and in your life as a departing gift i think that's a nice message,
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yeah yeah yeah you should definitely explore that jesse that's fun yeah yeah
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start start the routine you know i could tell it was going to be a lucky day
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because as i pulled out my deck of cards there There was a ladybug sitting on my palm.
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And I thought, this is going to be a good day. Then you tell the rest of the story.
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And at the very end, you can go, now, just like when I told this story,
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you're also going to have a great day.
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And then reveal the ladybug. That's very nice.
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That's very nice, my friend. I knew it was going to be a good day.
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This morning, there was a ladybug in my poop. Why? Because I confused one for a mint.
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Far out. Yeah, very robust. robust we have
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a few minutes left in this realm and i have been exploring something
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that i'm happy to chew up the next five minutes with if you guys want to chat
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about it well what what's the topic first yeah well i'm exploring pk touches
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and how i how do i want to do pk touches and i i,
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whilst i was away in vegas i've been chatting to a lot of people and they've
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given me a new way of thinking and creating and just to create without restriction
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and a whole bunch of the stuff, which I don't want to dive into now.
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I want to talk about the effect, but here's what's up.
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I wanted to come up with something and make it more personal.
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And so the idea was, when you make it personal, you talk about who you are.
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And I try to think about who I am and my playful nature.
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And I like to be jokey and loving and so forth.
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And I think that comes from my father.
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I think it comes from my dad. My dad is like a real-life Peter Pan.
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He's one of the best guys I know in the whole world.
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And then you go into a routine about him touching you.
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Yeah. i knew you were gonna fuck it up somehow i knew it i knew it i knew you
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were gonna make it something douchey all right we'll cut this out so what i was trying to say was.
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My dad's that type of guy that'll tap you on the shoulder when
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you look and there's no one there's any other side he's that
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guy right he likes to play he's like
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that's where i think that's where i get it by nature and i
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wanted to create a routine in that style and i wanted
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to make it more like a peter pan type thing where peter pan does
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play with his shadow and so the idea would be that i
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put somebody up on stage and with my shadow you might
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do something where you play with your shadow so using the
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ideas that like tobias dostell has in the silhouette routine
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where you play with your shadow a little bit and then you
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bring somebody up on stage and you do a bit and i like this
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idea of like tapping somebody on the shoulder and they go to look but there's
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no one there and i'm there and then the shadow will touch
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and play and then i thought do you think it
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would be cool to do an effect where like the shadow blows
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like and the spectator's hair
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just like blows up you know what i mean like
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i think that would be yeah yeah yeah you know and so
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also so i'm playing with a bit of a diorama and some gi joes and a flashlight
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to try and emulate how this might play out yeah and i'm going to be chatting
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with my old business partner partner who I had an audio visual business with
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on how I can achieve this.
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I want to know like how gnarly and far can you take?
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So it is a PK touches routine, but it's more so about like being Peter Pan and,
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and playing with your shadow.
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And I'm wondering how far I can take this. And do you think it like,
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do you think it could be the type of thing where like my shadow just goes off on its own entirely?
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And I'm now interacting with my shadow. Yeah.
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You know, like, what do you guys kind of see? Now, don't worry about how it's going to be done.
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Just think about, like, wouldn't it be cool if. Dun, dun, dun.
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All right. Oh, yeah. Tim's saying, I could see you in the green tights. Hey. Nice.
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So, you know, the PK Touch premise with a shadow.
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I mean, I've done it before, just in the generic, you know, just tapping.
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They feel it on their shoulder, like just the straight up sense.
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I know Chris Angel's done it in a special where he touched the shadow,
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they're sitting on a chair and then they get up from the chair and he like touches
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the shadow of the chair and the chair collapses.
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Like that's about as much as I've seen it explored before.
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But the idea of having other movement on the person or then playing with your
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own shadow after it is the next level, I think.
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That's the Nick K level, which is really cool. and people definitely
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freak out obviously to begin with like the audience that
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you're tapping the shoulder but what if like is
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there you know if you could do anything you you
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would you could like have someone put their hand up like this
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and their shadow is able to hold something you know
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that that would be interesting and then when they say
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move your hand away on three like one two three they move their hand and
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the thing falls that's cool or or even
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if it's as simple as having a table near the wall and you've
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got the the like this would be there the way you know you
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could orchestrate it straight away you sit a bottle and you're like
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with your shadow i want you to push the bottle over and then they they do it
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themselves and it falls over you know like a ghost kind of senses oh okay so
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it's their shadow doing the peter pan moment like we're all sort of peter panning
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our shadows and i guess it depends where you want to take it right but at this
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point point, if it's the spectator,
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it's still their shadow moving at the same time as them.
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Then I think if you could then explore it where you can have your shadow actually
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do different stuff to what you're doing. Yeah.
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Kind of like, you know, like Tobias's shadow work where he's,
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he can pass cards to himself and stuff, or it moves separately to him.
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Yeah. Do you think it would be funny if like I, they're playing with me and
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it's just a fun moment, like music and I'm talking to them and I go, watch, watch me.
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And then I push the can and the can falls off the table and they do it.
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And it doesn't work the first time. And I'm like, give it a big push.
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And they push. and the whole table goes flying off like that could be
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wow yeah yeah well now you're really going
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into like the ghost movie where he's like you know flick the coin
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uh as a ghost but yeah holy shit that
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would be there's theater in that there's theater in that
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where it's like yes and now they're they're experiencing what it's like to
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play with your shadow and and it's going to be something they're going
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to like they're forever going to have a shadow right so
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they don't remember that you know what
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i mean yeah well it depends because that's
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so strong if you're playing music
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and stuff like you got to choose whether
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you want it to be whimsical or like really freaky i guess because if they think
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it's just stuff that's rigged then it'll be like oh that's fun but if you can
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really get them into a place of like because i think what will help with that
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is if they really are feeling the taps on their shoulder from you touching their shadow.
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Then that's you can't rig that like that's going to start freaking everyone
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out and then yeah i think if you then build up to being able to move stuff with
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the shadow that i think creates some pretty crazy territory that i like very
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much yeah peter pan man peter pan like that's what i'm
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yeah yeah yeah and then you have the bowls of food that have steam but nothing in it and you can,
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pick it up and throw it at someone becomes real that's a great idea i didn't even think about that,
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when you play that whole peter pan thing.
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That's not impossible. If you gimmick up a wooden spoon, you could smell the meal in the think them.
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Maybe it emanates throughout the theater.
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You scoop up and then you go to throw. Yeah.
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And then produce a bunch of fake food effectively by doing a thing.
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Yeah, by doing a thing. I mean, the, the, you know, the most basic version of
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that could be dove pan, right?
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Type type thing where you can actually show the whole bowl of food,
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but obviously, you know, you create a, a more, uh, converted way,
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but you know, at a, at a quick glimpse, it'd be, you can do that.
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Imagine having a whole table. Imagine having a whole table of banquet stuff.
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Just throw the sheet over it, pull it back. And now you've got this whole thing.
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Remarkably, that's easier than actually doing individual bowls. That's the thing.
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That method already exists. That
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would be so much easier than having to do anything else. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
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But that's crazy. Well, that's, that's the goods, man.
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I think let's move on to the final word then. Cause I, you know,
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we're out of time already. Just crazy.
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Thanks for hanging with us, everyone. We're going to leave Nick with the final word today.
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Let's see what he has in store for us.
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So friends and listeners of the podcast, Kars. Thank you for spending your past hour with us.
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Again, we're happy to bring you guys some value and we're really thankful for
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