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The WORST EV ever...the insane Shanghai motor show, plus the Kia K4 · The Driver's Show

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  Speaker 1: The Driver's Show. Please don't call it an electric car.
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  Speaker 1: We call it.
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  Speaker 2: New energy powered by a Misson Nano Taylor toil over
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  Speaker 2: a century of engineering excellence. It means cutting edge, nanoscale technology.
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: I will say one thing, which is paper straws are ship.
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: Paper straws are ship, and in my house I bulk
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: by plastic straws because you do do a lot of
• 0:37
  Speaker 3: cocaine and you have extremely big nostrils.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: Hoover. I think your wife calls you sometimes I call
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: her that as well. So yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll be
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: You'll be using their nose to vacuum the carpet. For that,
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: that little comment, you should probably stop. Everyone tuned in
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: to hear stuff like this. Hmmm, it admits to oil
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: that you drizzled on. No, that is That's not me eating.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: By the way, I'm just having my way with the janitor.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: Donna's in the corner two years with to chuck a
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: leg over goodnight. He's a caramel Sunday. You got yourself, Donna.
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Darling got to be back on the program.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, I've got a mcfuck theer. Any as you
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: choked to death, I'm gonna tell him. It was a
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: fucking happy meal. Here's your toy, Pavely. Oh god, what
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: have you been up to. I've been driving a lot
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: of cars, driving a lot of cars, been covering a
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  Speaker 1: lot of range, planning a road trip. Actually, oh well,
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: I'll be going from Sydney to Melbourne Boring, which can
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  Speaker 1: be a very boring road trip. I think we might
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: take the Cynic route, which is quite nice. I'm still sorr.
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: I've got a pube in my mouth from Donner m
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  Speaker 1: So we might go through places like Maurumbula, Biger I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure. But and then once we hit Melbourne, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to go up to the the country, the high
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  Speaker 1: country of Victoria. Oh yeah, and we might do a
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  Speaker 1: bit of skiing. Oh watt, Yeah, that's cute. And I
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  Speaker 1: will be doing this all in a Genesis g eight
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: mm hmm. Your boy got back with Genesis. I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: it all in a beautiful Matt Green the way it
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  Speaker 1: should be. Spect here Matt Green. I'm hoping they'll do
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  Speaker 1: the tan interior, but we'll see. So there's a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a road trip comingly. But it's a cast sale
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  Speaker 1: of my and fell through as in I went to
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  Speaker 1: buy one and oh here's the thing. Right, So obviously
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  Speaker 1: you know how I'm in not too much of a
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  Speaker 1: rush to buy a car because our good friends at
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  Speaker 1: MG have given me a long termer, which at the
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  Speaker 1: moment is the HS, the Big Boy, and been quite
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  Speaker 1: enjoying that. It's been good. I thought, well, look here's
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  Speaker 1: a car that doesn't pop up too often. And it
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  Speaker 1: was a bit expensive. It was like really pressing my budget,
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  Speaker 1: and so I got a pretty good not a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good price. I wasn't happy with it, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm going to do it. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: do it. These don't come up much and smens is
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  Speaker 1: killing me. What was the car? Wait for it? So Genesis.
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  Speaker 1: I drove this beautiful you go around? No, no, you
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  Speaker 1: go and I drive this beautiful car around and went, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is good. Now, as you know, I'm a family man,
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  Speaker 1: yes I've had I need a family car, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought it would be appropriate being the family man that
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: I am, to purchase an Audi ttrs.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, so you're splitting from your wife and you're
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  Speaker 3: getting into no no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Head dressing for some reason. Stop it. I've got Genesis
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  Speaker 1: for my hairdressing salon. Business. That's an interesting choice. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I will say here's what I know about you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're not a fan of the TT.
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  Speaker 3: No, the TTRS I am a fan of because he's
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  Speaker 3: got the five cylinder engine out of the RS three. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: that is one I would find acceptable, but.
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  Speaker 1: Just acceptable and exceptional even. Yes, but how much I'm
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  Speaker 1: cure actually, how many k's are pretty good? About forty
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  Speaker 1: five thousand, what year as I think roughly a twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty okay, and how much eighty two drive away? That's
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  Speaker 1: not too bad.
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  Speaker 3: How much were they knew they were pretty expensive? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: because the TT was about one hundred grand.
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  Speaker 1: The RS was like right up there, one hundred at
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  Speaker 1: a stretch. I think I think brand new, around about
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  Speaker 1: ninety five drive away. But yeah, the the RS was
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  Speaker 1: x y as. I thought this was a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: deal given what they are one for t trs when
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  Speaker 1: it was new. So I took this thing for a
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  Speaker 1: driver and I was like, it was just kind of
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  Speaker 1: like I've always wanted to drive one of those, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, these don't come up much. Fuck it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it for dest drive. Booke didn't dest drive,
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  Speaker 1: and I loved it ripped the shit out of it. Goodness, Wow,
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: what did you do to you? I think I've got
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  Speaker 1: some Donna's labby according my foot. Sorry, darn's a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a rolled up tissue paper. I didn't want me
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  Speaker 1: Johnna properly Donna. Yeah. So I took the things for
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  Speaker 1: a test drive. Absolute monster, really great car. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: it reminded me. I got the same thrill from this
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  Speaker 1: as I would in a nine to eleven, probably more,
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  Speaker 1: because it's it's interesting when you've got a car you
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  Speaker 1: could easily rip around and the powers coming from the front.
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  Speaker 1: But it's it's it's just got such control and such
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  Speaker 1: precision about it. I'll steal it just in case it
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  Speaker 1: is normal tt. Yeah, yeah, that's right. But it's it's
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  Speaker 1: just got some seriously good sounds to it and great power,
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  Speaker 1: and it's so fucking engaged. Like ah, okay, So what happened?
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  Speaker 1: So I said to we we were going to and
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  Speaker 1: fro all week. Dealer or private dealer, okay, yep. So
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: we were going back and forth all week, and I
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: will say this was an Ourdi dealership too, so that
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  Speaker 1: kind of meant a lot. I wanted to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that it was going through. So, going through back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: we agreed on a price finally, and to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: eighty was kind of my top. I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: go eighty two is far acceptable. So we got to that.
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: I said, cool, I'm going to come down there on
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: Saturday morning and I'm going to get this sorted. And
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: then there was a sort of like do I pay
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: for this hour right or do I put this on finance?
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: And so I sort of thought, you know what I'm
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: going to just I don't know what they call it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll put basically partial down and then do the rest
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  Speaker 1: on finance. So I said, can you get your finance
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  Speaker 1: guy to call me? Because I want to get it
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  Speaker 1: all sorted. So Saturday morning, I give the guy i've
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: been dealing with a call. I said, hey, can you
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: can you get your finance guy to call me please?
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to come down at midday today and we'll
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: get it sorted. But I want to make sure it's
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: kind of all paid for and done before I come down.
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  Speaker 1: And then plus I wanted to know what their rates
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  Speaker 1: were and stuff like that. So he goes, yeah, no worries.
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: So his finance guy called me and I had the
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: kid at the time, and I said, look, just give me,
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: give me five minutes, so I me just sort this.
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: She's just fall bloody, taken a stack on the bike.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: Give me five minutes or go back. Call this guy
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: in five minutes. He didn't answer. Called him back again
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  Speaker 1: in ten, didn't answer, fifteen didn't answer. I don't know,
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: and then i'd by the third time, I'd left a message,
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: and I think I sent the dealer a text as well,
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  Speaker 1: like hey, just waiting on a call from your finance
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  Speaker 1: guy back. And then about an hour later I get
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  Speaker 1: this ping on my phone and they fucking sold it.
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a bit rough, like pay deposit though no, wow,
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  Speaker 1: no no money talking in there in a good will game,
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  Speaker 1: are they No? So I wasn't as devastated as I
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: thought i'd be. I was a little bit, but I thought,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, this happens for a reason, Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: eighty grand's a lot of cash. I could get like
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  Speaker 1: an affordable family view call, like an MG or something
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  Speaker 1: like that. And then with the other forty grand, I
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  Speaker 1: could probably get something like a nice secondhand boxter or
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  Speaker 1: something like that, or an MG. Actually, so it's a
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  Speaker 1: good exercise because I looked at like, okay, what can
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  Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars get me? Well, you know what can
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: eighty thousand bucks get me? I looked it up on
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  Speaker 1: car sales, eighty thousand dollars. You know how you can
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: choose from power, power or whatever. Power at the top
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: of the pile. And of course it was giving me
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of Tesla fucking performance. So I unchecked that
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: and what else was the giving me? It was giving
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  Speaker 1: me The top few were the MG four x power.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's the criterion. Yeah, whereas I like to
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: call it sex power because get a lot of action
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  Speaker 1: in that. So that was good. And they're a good
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: looking carton. Yeah, and they're cheap. Um. It was just
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  Speaker 1: coming affordable, thank you. That's that's the just looking at
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: that's on your contract words. Just looking for the terms
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  Speaker 1: and conditions here. Please do not refer to it as cheap.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: We prefer affordable. And please don't call it an electric car.
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  Speaker 1: We call it new energy. I so, actually, speaking of
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: new energy, the by D seal performance had come up
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  Speaker 1: as well, which I fucking love to be honest, I
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: love those cars. I sort of considered that as well.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: So look I don't know, the jury is still out.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: I thought, well, you know, maybe like a nice three
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: series beamer like in line six as well. Sorry, yeah,
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: lots of lots of options, but I don't know if
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: you've got any ideas. Yeah, hit cardy up, yeah, I
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: was talking about you. Oh you're the expert. What do
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: you reckon? I don't know.
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: It's you said you wanted a family car and then
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: you expressly went and didn't get a family car.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: So well, technically I can put the kid in the
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: back of one of those. Yeah, so it's family to
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: me baby, Yeah, but not practical. Yeah, I don't know.
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to think about that. Maybe ask me
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: again later in the episode.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's a tricky one because, yeah, family and
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: cool and performance. I don't think they've now that. Yeah, yeah,
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: there you go. There It is not how do you
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: go in the wet with that car? By the way, Yeah,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: you don't go great in the way, you don't go
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: around corners. No, basically, yeah, so there's that ish. Yeah,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: family and cool, it's a it's a tricky mix. Maybe
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: a maybe a Copra Travis scan Oh what travesty that
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: would be. I don't think there. I think Coopra are
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: great car. Actually, I tell you what I'm gonna I've
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: been trying to repair my relationship with the Volkswagen Group
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: of later and that. Yeah, that hasn't gone great. So
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: I will just say this, the Tea Rock Are I
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: find them just underwhelming. Tig One are though. Tig One, Yeah,
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: that's a different story. That's a nice that's a nice car.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: The Tea ROCKR.
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: They did do an update to the interior that made
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: it nicer, and it's got a good engine.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Very quick. Oh see, I didn't think so do you
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: press the throttle? Yes, it makes some cute, little like
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: complimentary sounds. I was like, okay, this is all you've gone.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: Look at me my Tea Rock card too, dude. I
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: was like, Nah, this isn't happening for me. This isn't
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: going on. Do you know what really gets to me
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: about the Golfers Because there's such an iconic car and
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: they're a great car. I do like them. I don't
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: know why they've got this kind of vibe of we've
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: got to be understated in the way we look, you
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think they leave the overstated stuff to
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: Audi they're just kind of sticking with Volkswagen sort of being.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: But the GTI is I would argue that that's more
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: I guess at Landish if you like, a lot more
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: sort of expressive than the.
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know the golfers like the executive sort
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: of thing. Really I think so, yeah, thank you wull shit.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah there's that. I don't know who's that. Yeah, so
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: let me know. Hey. By the way, we did touch
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: on the Seal Performance being a great car. Our good
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: friends at ev Direct and by d Oh geez. The
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: tabloids have gone berserk. They've the mummy and dad have
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: split split up. I wonder who's taken the kids. I
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: wonder if the cops were called. I wonder if it
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: was an argument on the front lawn, just like well,
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: fuck you, fuck youa nah, gone take your bloody. This
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have happened with if you didn't do the shark
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Si dickhead Gordon, I'm taking the dolphin. Yes. So, just
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: for people's background, EV Direct kind of brought by d
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: to Australia.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: They were the sort of importer and they set up
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: the infrastructure and got everything ready by proper, then came
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: to Australia. And there was also then Eagers, who is
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: a big dealer group, who had an investment in EV Direct.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: So can I just pause this When you said BYD
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: came to Australia, does that mean you're talking about their
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: flagship stores.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: Look, I don't know the real ins and outs of
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: it all. I'm not entirely sure how that all worked.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: But what they're doing now is basically BYD proper.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: Is taking over importing these cars and being the point
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: of call for all this stuff, running the marketing, doing.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: The full distributors. They're doing absolutely everything. Yeah, but there's.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: Now a separate company called EV Dealer Group, which is
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: basically a venture where Egers owns eighty percent of it.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: EV Direct owns twenty percent of it. And this is
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: basically a five year agreement between by D Australia and
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: Eagers to then distribute these cars through the existing dealerships.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: It is confusing.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: And one thing I noticed down in Geelong they've got
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: Mercedes Benz dealer. And you know, because Mercedes bens has
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: been pretty quiet in terms of sales.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not sad about that at all.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: So they're basically now half of the dealership as a
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: BYD dealer, but it's not like separated.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: So all you see is the building that is Mercedes Benz.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: The front half is BYD, the road facing half, and
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: then the back half is Mercedes bens but it's all
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: in the same building.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, they do that in Gosford as well. With Landrovers.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: The front it's it's very split, I know, half of it.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: And it's weird because Landrover are kind of tucked away
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: in the corner and then there's like this there. When
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: BYD was starting, it was odd. It was like this
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: one car and then they had this one pimply representative
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: kid like, well, do you want to show you're interested
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: a bow? I do? Do you remember they were delivering
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: them through my car? Yeah? Oh that was a hot mean,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: it wasn't it. I mean what I know, who come
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: up with that stupid idea? But I think you've got
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: a fair idea.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's like it's it's so weird because normally
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: what a car company would do is just go, hey,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I'm going to sell cars in Australia. But for whatever reason,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: it has just not gone that way. And I sense
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: from the outside that there is tension between EV Director
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: and BYD because you never knew who to talk to.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: It's like, do I talk to that guy to get
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: the thing I need? Or to talk to that guy?
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Well that's you though, that's you in the in the
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: car game. Yeah, but how does it work with a customer?
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Who are they?
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Who runs the call center when something goes wrong? Is
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: it EV Direct? Is it BYD who services the car?
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Who do I pay my money to?
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Who do I like?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: There's all these weird questions. So it's I'm glad that
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: this has now kind of resolved here. And look they've
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: sent there's a whole bunch of quotes that have come through,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: and everyone's back padding each other and it's all very complimentary.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: But I think behind the scenes it would be a
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: very different story.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see how this plays out too.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I wonder if EV Direct would take on other car companies.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I remember when we had Luke on, he was like
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: he had no interest in that sort of thing, so
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: judging by that, and he was really complimentary brand, but
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: he was he'swall black and Blue, Like they'd never take
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: on any other brands, and they were really happy with DDS.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Why would you bring another like bringing another big brand in. Now,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: there's so many out there that people have never heard of,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: so why would you bring in another one. BYD got
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: runs on the board early, so's MG, so's GWM. I
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: think they're all well established. Now you've got all these
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: other brands that have come in that you don't really
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: sort of know about, that are trying to sell cars,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: and it's just a confusing concoction.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I kind of also think that surely they would have
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: expected something like this eventually, because they obviously had been
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: working with BYD for years to get something like this together.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Then they brought the cars out here and they've done
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a brilliant job, like BYD is flourished in Australia, done
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: really really well, and you know, now it's kind of
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: got to a point where it's like, hey, cool, thanks
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: for setting us up. We're kicking ass. Will take it
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: from here, Champ. But that's the thing.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: They've taken all the risk, So I think it is
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: fair that they've been paid out, and they would have
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: been paid out very handsomely in the background, because the
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Eagers investment in ev Direct was in the tens of
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: millions from memory, so for BYD to basically take over.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Now they would have to, you know, buy that over.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I would have thought so it would have cost a
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: lot of money. So someone's made a lot of money
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: out of this. So it's just interesting, you know, very interesting.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Have you had an any dealings with the Shark sex
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: of recent times. Yes, we did our updated video where
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: we took it back. Yeah, yeah, covered that. It was
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: still well it really isn't a shitcart. No, it'sat it's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: great for day to day, but just don't take it
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: off road, yeah, for that sort of stuff.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: And since then there's just been people trying to just
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: desperately demonstrate how good it is road and just failing miserably.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: And it's like, it's fine, it doesn't have to be that,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: and I don't care if it is or isn't, but
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: it's not.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And that's that. What's that car that I feel like
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: it could be from Deep? It was a weird. It
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: was almost like this car ute hybrid. Oh the yeah,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I'm prett sure that was a deep hell like I
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: had the tray cover but yeah, it was kind of
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: like a and I'm pretty sure it's coming to Australia,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: in fact, I know it is, but ah, god, I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: can't remember, and I was really interested to know if
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the EO cover right, that cover can be taken up
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: full time and you can use it as a tray.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I don't actually think it can. I think it's just.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I think you could, Like I'm looking at pictures of
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: it here, and it seems to be usable with the
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: cover gone.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting, interesting market at the moment. So yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: it's I feel like we're in a We're in a
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: time where there's a lot of choice. There's the ice cars,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: there's the hybrids, and then there's the EV. I think
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: at one stage we thought, look, EV's are just gonna
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: take over, and then I think, no, no, I reckon
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: hybrids will be sort of hot property moving forward. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: think they sort of overcooked it with full EV and
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: now like with all these Chinese cars coming in, these
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: EV's coming in, it's hard to know. There's so much
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: choice going on. You just went to the Shanghai Motor Show. Yeah,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: so Shanghai and Beijing alternate. Did you blend in because
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: you kind of look a little bit.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you some funny things in a minute,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: So let me run you through the show and the scale.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Of it first, you do that while they eat some
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: while you eat some more.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: So basically Shanghai Motor Show is enormous and if you
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: look at motor shows in Europe, they're all dead, like
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I mean that, no one really does motor shows anymore,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: and if they do, not many people go there. China,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: on the other hand, is insane. So the first two
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: or three days are media only, and there was tens
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: of thousands of people there for the media days only.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Throughout the course of the two weeks the show is running.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: They expect over a million people to come through over
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: three days over the month that the show is on.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: For the public.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: That's decent now, and it is enormous. It's cross eight
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: massive halls. Each hall has like an upstairs and a downstairs.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: It is on another level and there's just so much
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: stuff that blew me away. So one of the big
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: things over there at the moment is live streaming. So
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: at pretty much every stand, you had a line of
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: maybe ten people all dressed kind of the same with
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: a phone on a tripod facing the car. Then they
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: would put their hands in front of the phone and
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: would be doing like hand gestures and would just be talking.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: At this for like an hour straight, and what they
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: were doing was live streaming the car that was just
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: revealed so that you could buy it. And then they
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: get a commission and they all work for a company
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: where this company is getting commission for each car they sell,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: and it.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Was so funny. Well, I don't understand. So a car
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: has just been revealed and they're standing in front live
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: streaming it, and then what happens? How are they selling cars?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: But you go by it because everything also in China
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: has done through like wa Chat, so we chat is
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: not only a messaging platform, but it's a payments platform.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Everyone has their websites and their portals on there. You
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: book an uber or dd through there, like it is insane.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: But then they have these people that are live streaming,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: and what would happen is because they're all lined up,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: one would move a little closer and all of a
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: sudden they would be in the shot of the next.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Guy, and they're all yelling because they're just so fucking
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: loud in there.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Then the next guy would move in and then all
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, they're all like a meter away from
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the car because none of them wanted to be in
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: others shots. But because one did it, they all had
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: to do it. It was the most bizarre thing I've
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: ever seen.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Wow, I'd love to kind of get on one of
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: these live chains and work out what they're doing. So
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: they're standing in front of the car, they're talking in
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the public, Hey if you want to talking stats, Yeah,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it's live comments are streaming, So they would be answering
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: questions and they'd be just NonStop a car that's just
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: been released. That's a pretty incredible skill.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But they would then have a second phone in
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: their hands that you couldn't see on camera that was
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: all the specs, so that they could just rifle through it.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: But they were talking a million miles an hour and
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: for hours straight. It was just unbelievable. So we were
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: being hosted by GWM and GW and revealed a V
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: eight which in yeah in the tank is insane.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So turbocharged V eight that looked cool. Crazy.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: So it's so cool to see that the car development
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: in China has not slowed down and to the point
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: where last time I was in Shanghai, which is probably
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: ten years ago, everyone was just driving European cars. They're
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: all just because that was the status thing. And then
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: the guys that couldn't afford European cars, we're just driving cheap,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: shitty Chinese cars, which back then weren't very good. Now
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: all of the European cars are ten years old. No
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: one is really driving European cars. They're all driving their
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: national product. And some of them are spending like two
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: or three hundred thousand dollars on stuff like that yangwang
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: U nine.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's nice.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: And is that a derivative of BYD Yeah, that's a
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: bid division. So some of the other stuff at the
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: show that blew me away BYD and Cattle. They sort
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: of showcase this battery charging technology that basically will give
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: you like three or four hundred kilometers of charging range
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: within three or four minutes. Wow, which was really cool
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: to see. But the thing is with them as well.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: This isn't like the Europeans where they go, oh, we're
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: testing a prototype car with solid state batteries. It'll go
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: on sale in twenty twenty nine. These guys are like,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: we've got this battery here on show, it's on sale
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: from next month in that car. It's crazy insane, And
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: it was just the scale and the pace at which
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: they're working that has completely blown me away.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: So now here's some weird, weird stuff.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: So someone came up to me and they're like, oh,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: can you do can you do an interview for people
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: at GWM? And I was like, yeah, what about Oh
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: let's ask you some general questions and I was like yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: no drums and like, can you just be here at
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: eleven so rock. This dude comes up to me. He
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: gives me this five pages of fucking words, so question
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: and then an answer, but the answer was like ten paragraphs.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, the fuck is this?
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: And he goes, I just need you to recite all
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: of this and I'm like when and he goes on
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the video interview. I'm like, I can't learn all of
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: this and I hadn't read it at this point and
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: he goes, oh, and it's live as well, and I'm
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: like what the fuck?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And I said to him, so it's GWM, but who
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: was the interview with? Well, it was being streamed on
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: their global social media. Oh my god.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Reading this and the question was what do you think
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: of GWM? And it was all this rambling stuff and
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: then it was like it provides me inspiration and it
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: is one of the world's best car brands. I'm like,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: the guy's fucking serious, and I said, I'm not going
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: to be reading this happy to be interviewed.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: So it did come. He's what you should have said. Yes,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: it emmitts her they make Precision lubric and Blue brookhems.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And I couldn't say better myself, but you could.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this dude has I saw the trail of
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: cameras coming and they said just stand here and look
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: surprised when he comes up to you.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, what so saw this jude?
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: See you?
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Ronald heard his accent and it was an English accent.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: So when he started talking to me, I was just
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: trying to be a bit funny and talk about Australian stuff,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm looking at this guy.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, he has no idea what I'm talking.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Jokes are dying in And then we get through this
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: this interview and then I'm like, what the fuck just happened?
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: And someone said to me, they hire all these white
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Russian guys who put on English accents to make it
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: look posh.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: He was an actor.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but it made sense when I was
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: talking about all this English Australia type stuff that he
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: had no idea about.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: The guy has probably never been to Australia or the UK. Yeah, No,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: it was weird.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: And then throughout the show I would randomly have people
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: come up to me and ask me for interviews. Oh
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: what do you think of this our brand? What do
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you think of the styling? And you would just go
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: through and have all of these random interviews with people
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: and you don't know where it is. One time this
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: dude comes up and he's like, Oh, what do you
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: think of the show? Another Russian English guy? And then
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: in the background I could see the girl filming on.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Her phone, but he had not mentioned that. I just
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: thought he came up to chat to me.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I can see her filming, I can
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: see the microphone on you at least say hey, do
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: you want to be part of this?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Oh? Did you say that to him? No? But I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: was like it was just weird.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: So it was the whole thing to me blew me away.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: And I can see that they're producing all these cars,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: but they're trying to legitimize themselves by employing these white
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: guys to do the fronting of everything. They're trying to
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: break through to a Western World, which I can't of get.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: It is a different way to do things. And to
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: be honest, I could see as well. Again because we
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: were with g WM. We went to all their cars
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: and they had like twelve or fifteen cars for us
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: to drive, and we rock up to a fucking car
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: park and I'm like, old, what is this? And it
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: was literally a car park with all these slalem courses
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: and I'm.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Like, what is this? Oh, like a like a like
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: a driver defense kind of training set of thing, you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: like a like a shopping center car park.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: We had no specs on any of these cars, so
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I'm frantically googling half of these cars are and we
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: then spend fifteen seconds behind the wheel doing this slalem
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and they just rush up to.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You what did you think?
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: And I'm like it had fuck loads of body roll
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: and understeered a lot. Yeah, because it's a giant four
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: wheel drive. It was like an a ladder frame suv.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you've set up.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: A fucking slalem course here? What did you expect to happen?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I just love it if you like hit some poor
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: old bird just carrying the shopping to a car.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's this is just and I can see why
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: they did it, Like you can't just drive on the
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: road in China as a tourist to get like a
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: tourist license which involves a test our group. With GWM
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: globally had like let's say two hundred journalists there, so
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: getting two hundred journalists a tourist license would have been impossible.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: So I can see that they're working with constraints, but
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: they still just don't get it. And you could not
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: get away with doing that with any other brand because
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: you would get torched. And look, I was upfront with
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the video that we shot. I said, listen, this is
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: all I've got to deal with. I'm going to be
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: upfront and say that none of this is really all
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: that impressive because none of it was, to be honest
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: on that course. So yeah, it was just a hard
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: thing to work around, and I think they're still a
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: bit naive in terms of how they're working, but I
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: will be curious to see how it all pans out.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: And just a side note as well, with the fast
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: battery charging stuff, you know, people look at it and
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: they're like, oh, you know, EV's about to turn a
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: corner here with charging but when you actually break it down,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: those charges needed a mega water of electricity. Like if
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: you're setting up a charging station in the middle of
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Australia somewhere, or on a high regional highway somewhere.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: To be honest, anywhere in regional Australia getting you know
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: what I mean, ten charges ten megawatts of electricity.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: That is a lot of fucking electricity. So people just
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: don't get that. And that's why I reckon. While it
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: may work in China where they've got a lot of
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: diversity in terms of their power sources, and they just
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: do not stop. It just will not work in Australia
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: for quite some time.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I wonder how do they get that working over there,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Like they've got so many people, and like China is
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: on it like people. I just love reading some of
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: the comments I see in our content.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I'll never buy anything China is. They got no idea
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Like go to Shanghai. It is one of the most
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: advanced places in the world. Yes, they If you drop
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: yourself in the middle of Shanghai, you wouldn't even need
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: to know the rest of the world exists. Everything is there.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: You want for nothing, and they have everything that you need.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: And people who think China is in some economic trouble. No,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: not from what I could.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Tell, like it is. This is a bustling place.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Their car market is out of control, so you know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: and they sell over thirty million new cars a year
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: just in China.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: So that's why they can get away with making half
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: of this shit because they know that even if you
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: only have ten percent of the market, you are bigger
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: than the entire Australian market times three.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: And you look at say BYD who are like one
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: of the if not the biggest brands saler in China.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, fuck, there's no wonder that they took over
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: from MeV Directs and they've got money behind them. They
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: just wanted someone else to kind of look after the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: nitty gritty. No, but it's it's exciting stuff.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: So funnily enough, this probably won't make any sense to
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: anyone except people with the tech background. We had to
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: do like live crosses back to Australia for Sunrise, midday
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: news and six pm news.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Little celeb you have seen it, yeah, but anyway, have
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you got have you got like celeb clout about you? Now?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Do you kind of walk up and just I picture
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you walking through TV studios and just slapping the brand
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: power Chick on the ass get a touts.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: But it was interesting over there because for us, for
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: our live stream equipment to work, you have to have
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: like it accepts six sim cards. It's called a de geio,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: and it was very hard to get data sims over there.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: So we had to get one of our locals over
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: there to get us these data sims, and he had
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: to pledge to return the data sims when we were done,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: because it's like a weird thing for someone to have
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: more than one data sim. Oh and I couldn't buy
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: it from a shop, just like a data sim for
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: a tourist. Oh really, So it was crazy. So it
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: was touch and go there because one of our live
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: crosses was like five am, so I had to make
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: sure it was working and stuff was just a bit
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: hairy at one point. We've got it working in the end,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: but just even the process of doing that, because they've
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: got all these firewalls in place as well, I'm like,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: this may drop out halfway through our live cross honestly,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: just insane.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I've been to China once and I loved it. I
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: was only there for a couple of days. But I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: think it's fantastic. I just you're exactly right. There's just
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: some things that China do better and that we've got
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to accept that, like the common section blowing up with
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: there's bloody Chinese cash. I'm not briefacing building them. They're
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: not even quality mate stuff like that. The Chinese are
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: ruling the world with and they can scale and they
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: should because like they've put a lot of hard work
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: into it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: They can scale production unlike anyone else in the world.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: You can't, like with all this tariff stuff that's going
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: on at the moment, Apple cannot manufacture iPhones in the
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: US because A you can't get the parts.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Network in the US. That's not gonna happen.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: B The work ethic, Like I know that obviously in
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: China you've got issues with the way some workers are treated, but.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: There's a forest dedicated to it.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: But their work ethic is if you are due at work,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: you're at work, you work hard all day, and you
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: go home.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: You don't go on working from home to know because.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Whatever, like it's not like and in the States, manufacturing
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: is hard work because you've got to pay people a
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: shitload of money. You've got all of these dramas about
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: people who.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: First of all, I wouldn't say it's a shipload of money.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Those people who are working in the Amazon warehouses aren't
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: eating a shipload of money. I mean, compared to Australia,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: they would be.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, the US dollar is so strong that but
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: equally over there it's quite expensive to live. Right in China,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: it is much cheaper to live so obviously they're not
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: the same thing. But it is the scale of manufacturing
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: and their work ethic and the ability to source parts
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: over there that makes huge scale production possible and why
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: a lot of companies are going to be in trouble
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: because they've based everything around China and if all of
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: a sudden you get all these tariffs slapped on stuff,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: you no longer have a business.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but the culture is different. Yeah, and that's
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: a really good point. That's pretty much exactly why they're
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: a powerhouse with this sort of stuff. Except when it
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: comes to a little car that I test drove to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the point where I hated it so much i returned it.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: After two days. They're like, oh, yeah, you're back, And
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I said, just take it, please, just take it. This
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: car isn't finished. I'm talking about the Leap Motor C ten.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: It's a stupid name. To start with a stupid name.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: No matter where you look at it, Leap Motor just
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: sounds like some sort of fucking learning game for children.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: And seed ten and sound two. Yeah, seed ten. I
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: don't know, it just sounds so clinical. So yeah, Leap
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Motor C ten forty five thousand to forty nine eight
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: like that little touch. Depending on the variant, I will
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: say the best thing about this car is the way
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: it looking. What's that handing it back? Well, yeah, and
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: it's flicking back. I was going to say the keys,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't even come with keys. It's actually a
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: pretty good looking car. I will say that straight up.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: It looks really good. The one thing I found so
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: weird was it's got this light bar up the front.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: But you only get that in like Chinese models or overseas.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: It didn't make it past the Australian test or whatever.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: But isn't that so old because there's so many cars
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: with that front light bar here there's rules around distances
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: of light lights from the center of the car, or
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: there's some stupid rules.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Around that are just and this is you know you
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: look at the side note the new model, Why is
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: just that can pass it?
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I couldn't understand why this could. Design rules are so dumb.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: They just have all of these idiotic things that don't
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: exist anywhere else in the world.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: So twenty inchalloys, five hundred and eighty lead boot space,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: it's got a decent bum on it up to four
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four kilometers in WLTP. Here's where it
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: started to go wrong. So the key is not a key,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: it's a card or you can use your phone. So
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I've got a big problem if like your phone or
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: a card is your only options to get in the car. Well,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: say you're a fucking mum, you've got three kids, You've
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: just come back from shopping, your phone's dead. All you
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: want to do is the only way to open this
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: boot is with the card. So you can't actually do
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the whole. It says you can, but you can't because
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I tested it. You can do that kind of bootswipe
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: under the car. When so say you're fishing around in
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: your handbag, you've got no proximity sensing key. You've got
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to get this fucking card out and tap the side mirror.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: No, but I disagree because I had a Tesla for
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: five years and never had an issue with my phone
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: being flat. But if you did, you just go to
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: the card. Your phone will work all the time.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you've got the card, would that car
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: open BI proximity?
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: No, but your phone has used the rest of the time,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: So why would you then lug around a key. I
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: think key's a complete waste of time, Like they're just pointless.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: If you can do it with your phone, which you
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: always have in your.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Pocket, say your phone's dead, you can log into the
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: app and unlock the car from any other phone or
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: use the card. That sounds like a massive dick around.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I'd never once had that happen to me in five
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: years of owning the car. Well, you're a nerd with
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: a fully charged phone.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: And I'll say as well, Apple, and this won't work
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: if it's an app. But Apple Key, which they use
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: for BMW's and a couple of other brands, now they
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: actually if your phone does die, there's a reserve battery
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: capacity for.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: The key work. Oh okay, so there's fixes for that
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: as well. Look, I just found it an absolute punish
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I I just didn't enjoy it whatsoever.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just vastic I'll say, is if you
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: were an owner, you would just have your phone paired.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like just using this car to open
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the door and you're clicking it on the mirror and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work that great to be honest, like you're
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: really tapping this thing away. It's like it's still not opening. Also,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I found like the other only way to open the
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: boot was to get in the car, use the infotainment
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and click on the boot button. It was just like,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: don't do that. At least the key that you hate
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: so much has fucking everything on it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Well, yes, I've unfortunately my mystery car from herts as
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: a shipbox Pollstar, and that's got the same thing where
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: the boot. I just cannot figure out how to open
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: it easily without having to use the key. There might
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: be a button there somewhere, but I couldn't find it
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: and gonna be bothered looking any them, but I already did.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: The infotainment doesn't even have Apple car Play or Android Order.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just dumb. The only sort of apps
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it has. By the way, footnote, I think I believe
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: that's coming, but it won't be an update till the
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: end of the year. So to get home to use
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: this car's navigation system just was a piece oh shit, massively. Yeah,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: it's got Spotify and Zoom, but that's about it. I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: just I would rather sit down to take a piss
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: on an ant's nest then I would sitting in this
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: fucking leap motor c ten. I don't say that like lightly.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I wanted to like it. I really remember was saying it, going, fuck,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: this is really nice looking. It was all black, it
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: looked really slick. But this is a hard pass. I
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: wouldn't recommend it at all. I think they undercooked it.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's not ready, and I think that it's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: probably got potential. I think they've got a really cool
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: speck where it's I like a green on the outside
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: and and a tan on the inside. It's got a
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: very Donald Trump style tan on the inside. Everything is
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: this this weird kind of tan. So yeah, it kind
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: of looks nice, but that's where it ends. For me.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: It's a hard pass. I wouldn't recommend it at all. Yeah.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I don't think they've really sold any
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: of them, so there's not really much to know to
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: go by. And that's the thing these cars, if they're
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: not ready and they're not up to scratch, no one
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: will buy them. Like it's a brand no one has
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: ever heard of, So why would you go? And now,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: just very quietly as well, I'm now looking at a
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: YouTube video of the Polster to boot opening from the outside.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: There was a button buried near the red o plate,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: so you're going to stick your finger under there, and
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: that's where it opens intead somewhere little.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Ridge round in the Polster anyway, it's a poster five
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: coming out posta. Yeah, who cares? I reckon, they're a
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: great looking car. We're so divided on the Polster.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: I would just never own one because they horrifically expensive
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: and depreciate terribly and have built like shit?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Are they built like shit? So the last one that I.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Drove was a horror show. It should not have left
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: the showroom. It was like your elite motor experience.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I just found them a little bit just mundane and clinical.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Like the inside. I remember thinking it's it's got this
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: kind of scandy feel about it, you know, with their
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: yellow handy. Yes, it's got this yeah scandy via China.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: It's got this kind of yellow seatbelt vibe going on.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, it's you know, it's it basically looks
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like an accountant's car who fills his shitty little one
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: bedroom apartment with Ikea furniture. That's who would buy that car.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: But they're a nice looking car, pavel A, he's a
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: little bitch. He doesn't lack posta too. You've worked with
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: it a Mitsu before at their launch event, right, I did,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I did, mate, I went to their launch event. I
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: am seated. Actually your boy am seated. Said the whole
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: thing very nice, delicious Japanese restaurant. But I'm really impressed.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I'm really impressed. These guys have been leaders in oil
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: innovation for over a century. You know, they're the ones
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: trusted by Toyota and Mazda to deliver precision engineered oils
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: straight from the factory, and now now they are bringing
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the same expertise to ossie drivers. What stood out to
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: you the most, well, A lot did, actually, Pavlo, thank
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you for asking that non prompted question, and it was
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: their nanotailored oil, which is why we're here, because this
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: stuff is next level, and now they don't just make
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: generic who haa products. No, no, not these guys. Every
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: formula is designed with purpose. For example, let me tell
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you something. The IFG three, Oh, this stuff is perfect
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: for city driving. This is what you want for city driving.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: This is your stop start traffic, the stuff that puts
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: stress on your engine. But then there's the IFG seven,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: This is the stuff for your beast pavlay the high
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: performance vehicles. Seven layers of protection seven. I sound a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: bit New Zealand. Seven layers of protection Anyway, they've got
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: no cleansing tech. It stops oil breakdown and it even
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: just sorts it in the harshest condition. So if you're
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: driving a Japanese car, the IFG five, oh, that stuff
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: is build for precision engineered engines. It's offering five layers
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: of protection to keep your engine clean and running smoothly.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: So that sounds like a lot of attention to detail.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Oh so much detail, so much I nearly forgot it all.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: But the IOG seven isn't just oil. Just know that,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: because it's like giving your engine a custom suit of armor,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: like a little massage. As well. It doesn't just protect
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: your engine, it optimizes performance. If you're into keeping your
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: car in its absolute best nick possible. This is the
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: oil you want, and now it's easy to get too.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: It is very easy. Are you ready for the longest
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: website I've ever had to reach out? Here? We go
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: au dot Inamitsu slash no no slash tailored slash oil
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: dot com. I said to it, amits you, I said, guys,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: don't give me that. Let's just tell them that if
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: they search out it AMDSU Australia on the Googles, they'll
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: find where they're going. You know what I'm saying. They'll
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: ship it straight to your door. No fast, top tier
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: oil wherever you are.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Ok. If it's good enough for manufacturers like Toyota and
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: mazdav and, it sounds.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Good enough for me. Hmmmm exactly. You know with in AMIDSU,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you're getting oil that's designed to handle whatever you throw
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: at it. They've been trusted for the best part of
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: over one hundred years. Yeah, look it, Amitsu taking you
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: beyond engine protection to real driving excitement. I think I
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: could read that better. You ready it Omitsu taking you
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: beyond engine protection to real driving excitement? Was that good? Yeah? Hey, hey,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: K four, what do you want to talk about anything else? No? Well,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: just KK four, it's like a little underwhelming.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and what I found as well, it's got this
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: throttle hang where but just the breaks are very hard
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: to apply when when you release the throttle.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Was that on the GT line. Yes, the GT is
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: the one with the one point five turbo. See, here's
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: my thing. Like, I love a Kisidan as you know,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a former Stinger owner. I think you jumped to my
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Stinger once before. Yeah, we picked up Donnor and we
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: had a great night at KFC after that. Oh Jesus
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: O KFC works. She loves a greasy box Donnor, she
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: loves it, loves a bit of finger licking chicken. Yeah.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: So I was really excited about the K four and
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I actually think the K four looks really good. Looks
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: really good, And I reckon the guy who designed this
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: would probably would have just taken a seat when the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: final product was put out after he jumped in it,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: because it really does the outside styling such an injustice
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: when you hop in it's so underwhelming and disappointing. I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: was in the Sports Plus spec. Here's my thing. When
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: you sit in a car and you're getting second from
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the top and you're putting your hands on a plastic
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: steering wheel like grip. Whatever you do if you're a
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: car company, doesn't matter what speck it is. Put a
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: little bit of fucking effort into the steering wheel because
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: guess what, it's the thing that gets touched the most.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Like me, it's it's it needs to look good, you
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, and it needs to feel good.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: And this thing was just it looked it looked good,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: but it like, as soon as you touch it, the
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: whole thing is just one big chunk of plastic. I
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: love what they've done with the little logo in the
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: corner and the way they've set everything up, but god,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: as soon as you touch it, it's just a cheap hunk.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what are they doing? The interior is just bland.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I did think it just had no colors. It's just
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: like the GT Spec has bigger alloys. I think they
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: go from eighteen to nineteen. It takes it from the
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: two liter four cylinder to a one point five turbo
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: one point six, a little punchy thing which I'll be
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: curious to jump in. Did that have a I mean,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: you might not have anything to compare it to, but that, Yeah, look,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's punchy. It's got an eight speet auto, which
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: is good. I mean the Serrato this is effectively, I guess,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: a new little sort of Serrato GT with a glower.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: It's not this is the thing. The Serrato GT was
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: more sport oriented. This is GT Line. Yes, so it deliberately,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: isn't that? Yeah, I don't know. I just I just wasn't.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: It's such a shame way with it. I just think
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: they had so much potential with this, and yeah, they
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: really got let down by just some key stuff. And yeah,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I just it's disappointing. Outside looks fantastic, inside is lackluster.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe the GT speck is a bit better because I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: think you do get the two tone interior and obviously
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the punchy engine, but you also get I think it
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: takes it from around about thirty five thousand to I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: want to say forty four.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: It is expensive as well. That's the thing that I
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: was probably surprised with the most that it's a lot
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: of money for that car. I'm just having a look
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: at prices now.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: GT Line is drive away forty seven grand. It's a
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: lot of money. And that's the thing when kiya get
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: it right.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: They really get it right, like they put together a
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: really solid car and this just unfortunately was not it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: This is not it. So what else is what's coming
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: up on your horizon? Going to India?
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, are you're testing I'm Ahindra or is it a launch?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Is it a random launch in India? Yeah, it's a
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: new Leap motor c C eleven.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be in India, which will be interesting.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: And then yeah, then off to the States and then
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: off to Europe.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to be busy cagey about that India trip. Yeah,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: there's some secret stuff with him. He's a he's got
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a secret Indian lover over there. His name is his
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: name is? His name is Rug and Josh yeah all
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: over that. Yeah. Yeah, he really courage your flavor. Oh yes, ma'am,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: check out Pavlo's little puppa dumb well listen, have fun
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: in India. Yeah, try not to get dissonery, which is
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I think a diarrhea an old term for diarrhea.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Look, I'm actually have a pretty strong stumming I can.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: My wife hates this about me. When we went to
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Ballei ages ago when we were younger, I would just
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: eat street food and just drink water from the tap
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: and stuff.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: And she would just be like, you'd just be licking
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: handrails in the shopping center. And I say shopping center
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: very largely, it's more of a local market.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like, I just hope you ship yourself
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: on the way back to the hotel.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Just happened. Touch with it. I'll be in India. Yeah,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: spriting like ies. I mean, you put your finger over
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the end of it. Have you seen those reels where
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: it's like just the best of Indian street food and
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: it's literally just a dude cut and chicken with his toenails.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I love that. Guys like chicken breasts at his foot
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: and just cutting out by very bad stereotypes. That is
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: not what happens over there. What about the Temple of Rats, Yeah,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. That's a real thing. Yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: that's a holy thing. Well, you probably stay in luxurious accommodation,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: no doubt, and go over there on your business class
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: flat and we'll land there on business So that would
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: make sense. What's what's the best business class and worst
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: business class? I bet you'll say quantus is good.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: No, Quantus is one of the worst. I think Qatar
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: is one of the best.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I had a bit of a chuckle me and my Wath.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: We're just on the socials and I said, check out
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: where Pavlay is. He's at the airport, but he's acting
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: like he's really disappointed to be leaving his family. As
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you took a photo of the Captain's lounge menu Chairman's
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: land so good. Oh jeez, I'm really disappointed to be
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: leaving my family. But anyway, and loves to Morning the
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• 51:33
  Speaker 1: you put that shit between two slices of bread. I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to eat it like a sandwich.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, but yeah, it just it depends if you're if
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: you're paying with your own money. I just think you
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  Speaker 3: get the best value out of something like Katar or Emirates.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: They're both pretty good. Singapore Lines is good.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I would never know. I'll never know why. I just
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  Speaker 1: I fucking can't have heard that. It's so expensive.
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  Speaker 3: It's gotta be strategic about when you buy your seats
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