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Dodgers in a hole, Guards grab ALCS lead + Doug Mientkiewicz joins · Foul Territory

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Busy day.
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  Speaker 3: Busy day. Oh, we've got Jason Kipnis to talk Cleveland Guardians. Perfect,
• 0:08
  Speaker 3: perfect timing. A later show today, so thanks to everyone
• 0:12
  Speaker 3: for tuning in at 4 o'clock Eastern, and then we'll
• 0:14
  Speaker 3: do a show later. I actually want to mention that.
• 0:17
  Speaker 4: The shadows. I can't see because of the shadows, so sorry. Sorry,
• 0:22
  Speaker 4: the shadows.
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  Speaker 5: You're giving away the theme of the show.
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about shadows for two hours and
• 0:27
  Speaker 3: how baseball players have to just weather the storm of
• 0:32
  Speaker 3: Playing in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 5: It's so tough. You can't see the baseball.
• 0:37
  Speaker 4: Scott, before we go, let me just say this, okay? Kip,
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  Speaker 4: congratulations to your Guardians. I'm going to say it. They
• 0:45
  Speaker 4: beat the White Sox in the regular season. I thought
• 0:47
  Speaker 4: they'd beat them in the playoffs, meeting the White Sox.
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  Speaker 4: So congratulations.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, you don't hear this very often.
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  Speaker 6: You don't hear this very often, people.
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  Speaker 4: I was wrong, okay? I thought the White Sox would
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  Speaker 4: hold on and win the division. I thought when they
• 1:00
  Speaker 4: played the Guardians in the postseason– They would beat them.
• 1:03
  Speaker 6: But you know what?
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  Speaker 4: I tip my cap to the Guardians, to their fans,
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  Speaker 4: and the way they played in the last three games,
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  Speaker 4: and now they're up 2-1.
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  Speaker 6: So here, I'll tell you what I'll do.
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 6: I'll tip my Guardians cap to you.
• 1:17
  Speaker 7: You've come a long way, AJ. Can I tell you that?
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  Speaker 7: If nobody else tells you that, you've.
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  Speaker 2: Come a long way.
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  Speaker 7: I'm watching you grow up right in front of our eyes.
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  Speaker 6: Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that too.
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  Speaker 7: Listen, you're not, you're not, you're not the only one
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  Speaker 7: who thought the white socks were going to hold on
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  Speaker 7: and we're playing better in that division series anyway. So
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  Speaker 7: a lot of people owe apologies.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: My one book that I'm going to write in life,
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  Speaker 3: AJ's book of wrongs, as AJ said, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: A long book. It's going to be a very short book.
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  Speaker 4: If you get to, if you get to like this
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  Speaker 4: book says 101 lessons and from the dugout, if you
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  Speaker 4: get to 101, Scott, you would have done something.
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  Speaker 3: Nah, I'm going to be lucky to get to nine.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just looking for a niner. Nine innings, the whole deal.
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: All right, we're going to do a postgame show tonight, too.
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  Speaker 3: So make sure you check that out. NLCS game four.
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  Speaker 3: It could be a party for the Milwaukee Brewers. So
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  Speaker 3: make sure you tune in. We'll be on after that one.
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  Speaker 3: And for now, let's get to the ALCS, which just
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  Speaker 3: finished up their game three.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bowl count.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Time for full count fueled by marathon. The guardians take
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  Speaker 3: the lead in the series two to one Cade Smith
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  Speaker 3: with the four out save to shut it down.
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  Speaker 5: Petey Halpin, the rookie.
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  Speaker 3: Most of you probably don't know who he is, but
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  Speaker 3: get to know him instead of on hell Martinez in
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  Speaker 3: this series. And they press the right button. Steven boat
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  Speaker 3: thriving and the razor down to one in this series. Kip,
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  Speaker 3: you see a lot of Cleveland guardians ball. And I
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  Speaker 3: know this is emotional for you too, with the way
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  Speaker 3: that you've been on a team that's gotten pretty deep
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  Speaker 3: into this thing.
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  Speaker 5: So what did you see today?
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  Speaker 7: You saw guards ball. I mean, this is exactly how
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  Speaker 7: they've been winning. This is exactly the type of the
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  Speaker 7: baseball games that they've been playing. They win low scoring games. Uh,
• 3:01
  Speaker 7: they have a great bullpen. They kind of lean on
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  Speaker 7: you for nine innings and hopefully can get that big hit. Um,
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  Speaker 7: it's not always the cleanest offensive output ever for them, but, um,
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  Speaker 7: up and down the lineup though, it's like they have
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  Speaker 7: these weird guys who can just, we'll hit home runs
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  Speaker 7: at the right time. And today it was PD Alpen. And, um,
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  Speaker 7: Patrick Bailey the other day, too. He's been getting some
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  Speaker 7: home runs. He's just guys you haven't expected because you're
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  Speaker 7: so worried about Jose and DeLauder up at the front
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  Speaker 7: of the lineup that you might take your foot off
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  Speaker 7: the gas as a pitcher when you get to the bottom,
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  Speaker 7: and that fastball leaks over, and there's that crooked number,
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  Speaker 7: but this is how they win games. Good pitching, good
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  Speaker 7: starting pitching. Gavin Williams was fantastic again, I thought, except
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  Speaker 7: for that one mistake versus Chandler Simpson, and then he
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  Speaker 7: was lights out a second time in a row, and
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  Speaker 7: Turn it over to that really good, really tough bullpen,
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  Speaker 7: and they just shut the door. They were fantastic today.
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  Speaker 4: The bullpen's not good, Kip. It was the shadows, first
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  Speaker 4: of all. It was just the shadows, not the bullpen
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  Speaker 4: being really good.
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  Speaker 2: It could be bullpen. Two things could be true.
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  Speaker 4: True.
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree.
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  Speaker 4: The bullpen's– it's been nasty since game three of the ALDS.
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  Speaker 4: So the bullpen's really nasty. I was surprised Gavin Williams
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  Speaker 4: came up– Came out after five innings. That kind of
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  Speaker 4: surprised me. But then Espino came in and pitched really well. Petey,
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  Speaker 4: I told this story already. Petey Halpin was hitting against
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  Speaker 4: the White Sox, and my wife was watching. And she's like,
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  Speaker 4: this is the best pinch hitter they have, some guy
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  Speaker 4: named Petey, and he hit a home run off Sean
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  Speaker 4: Newcomb to win that game. And then, of course, he
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  Speaker 4: hit the home run today. That was the text I sent,
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  Speaker 4: and then with the bafflet, which was epic. Awesome, awesome bafflet.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome moment for Petey. And just a great job by
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  Speaker 4: the Guardians bullpen. I mean, Chandler Simpson with the huge hit.
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  Speaker 4: And Ray's offense has not been good. Even against the Yankees,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't great. They just outpitched the Yankees. They haven't
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  Speaker 4: been able to score. Caminero, Yandy's been okay, but Aranda, Caminero, Mesa, Jr.,
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  Speaker 4: those guys haven't really done much for the Guardians, and
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  Speaker 4: those are the kind of the guys that they were
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  Speaker 4: counting on. Even Liam Hicks had the one big hit
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  Speaker 4: in game two. But other than that, he hasn't been
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  Speaker 4: real good in the postseason, so they've got to find
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  Speaker 4: some offense, man.
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  Speaker 7: Do you think there's something to be said about the
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  Speaker 7: time off of the bye in the first round?
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  Speaker 6: No, because they played already. They beat the Yankees. And
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  Speaker 6: by the way. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 6: But, Kip, let me say this, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: My bad.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: All four teams that had buys won their series. So
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  Speaker 4: we can kiss that goodbye. All four, literally, goodbye.
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  Speaker 7: Fair.
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  Speaker 4: All four teams that had buys won their series in
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  Speaker 4: the DS. So apparently you can use the rest and
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  Speaker 4: still win. I mean, it's only the losers that always say, oh, man,
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  Speaker 4: we had too much time off. Kip, you know this.
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  Speaker 4: When you played... You wanted the time off. You wanted
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  Speaker 4: it because you were like, oh, man, I'll rest up.
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  Speaker 4: I'll get my little simulated at-bats against our pitchers. I'll
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  Speaker 4: talk a little trash to them if I get a hit,
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  Speaker 4: and then I'll be ready for the game.
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  Speaker 2: It's the playoffs, man.
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  Speaker 6: You want the rest. Forget it. I hate that argument.
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  Speaker 6: That drives me crazy.
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  Speaker 7: I think the series is far from being over. I
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  Speaker 7: think this is going to be a long one. I
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  Speaker 7: think both these teams kind of play similar with good pitching,
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  Speaker 7: good bullpens, and just kind of like timely hitting here
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  Speaker 7: and there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I think Cleveland has just done it. I thought that
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  Speaker 7: game one was huge to get out to that lead
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  Speaker 7: and get that one in Tampa. And then you had
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  Speaker 7: Gavin Williams where you got to win his starts because
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  Speaker 7: he's your ace and he's your head honcho. The way
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  Speaker 7: he's striking guys out and just eliminating runners and with
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  Speaker 7: runners on anybody who gets on, it's like you almost
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  Speaker 7: have to hit a home run off him because it's
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  Speaker 7: hard to string some hits against him.
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  Speaker 6: Who pitches game four? Who's starting?
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  Speaker 4: Do we know who's starting game four? Mick Martinez probably
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  Speaker 4: for the Rays, right? Who's starting for the guards? Is
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  Speaker 4: it going to be Cantillo?
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  Speaker 7: Uh, I wouldn't be surprised. He was good throughout the year.
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  Speaker 7: He has a nasty changeup. Um, I don't know what
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  Speaker 7: they're going to do. So yeah, I'm excited to see
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  Speaker 7: who they go with, but like, that's what I'm saying
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  Speaker 7: with the, you said that you were surprised to see
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  Speaker 7: Gavin kind of come out early. They had a rested
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  Speaker 7: bullpen a little bit going into it, uh, with some
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  Speaker 7: of these, the, those stretched out guys were able to
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  Speaker 7: come in and they were rested rather. Um, can't tell
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  Speaker 7: if sounds right, but you know what? We'll wait and see.
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  Speaker 6: Call Steven Vogt right now. You need to call Vogt right.
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  Speaker 1: Now and find out.
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  Speaker 4: We need him to break the news right now. So, Kip,
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  Speaker 4: call Vogt and be like, hey, I need to know
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  Speaker 4: who's pitching. And tell him this. It'll determine if I
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  Speaker 4: come and throw out the first pitch or not. That's
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  Speaker 4: how you get them.
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  Speaker 7: That'll determine it? I like it. But, Scotty, I don't
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  Speaker 7: like you discrediting the Shadows. The Shadows are a real thing.
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  Speaker 1: They're annoying.
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  Speaker 7: They're not an excuse or a crutch to have, but
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  Speaker 7: they're not nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on.
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  Speaker 5: Shadow me, shadow me.
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  Speaker 3: Go back to the two-shot because I'm only being sarcastic,
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  Speaker 3: having fun with it. I mean, I don't really like
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  Speaker 3: hate on or love on. No, the guy next to
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  Speaker 3: you is the one.
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  Speaker 6: I hate that.
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  Speaker 2: It's you?
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  Speaker 7: Okay, you don't think that's an excuse.
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  Speaker 6: No, but I just hate hearing about it.
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  Speaker 4: And I know you have to bring it up like
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  Speaker 4: when I call games. I just don't like it when
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  Speaker 4: we have to hear about it. And every broadcast crew
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  Speaker 4: does it because they want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 6: Like, okay, hey, there's shadows. Cool.
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  Speaker 4: But then when you say, oh, well, the umpire can't
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  Speaker 4: see because of shadows. The catcher can't see because of shadows.
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  Speaker 4: The guy at third can't see. My crew does it
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  Speaker 4: when we do games, and it's just like it makes
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  Speaker 4: it seem like it's impossible. Dude, I took BP in
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  Speaker 4: Cleveland as a visitor in the shadows every single day.
• 8:18
  Speaker 6: As a visitor, you're like, man, I'm used to these.
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  Speaker 6: I'm used to these damn shadows.
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  Speaker 4: Like everyone's talking about shadows. I'm like, man, this is
• 8:24
  Speaker 4: the time we took BP or early BP every day.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I'm locked in now. I don't, this
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  Speaker 4: doesn't do anything different. So I just think it's like
• 8:30
  Speaker 4: you said, I think sometimes it's used as a crutch.
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  Speaker 4: The players won't say it. I mean, they'll come back
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  Speaker 4: and dug up and be like, man, I didn't see
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  Speaker 4: that one.
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  Speaker 6: Great.
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  Speaker 4: But, uh, you can't use it as a crutch. Guardians
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  Speaker 7: It's just annoying. It's just like, it just plays into
• 9:46
  Speaker 7: the game plan when there's shadows. I think the pitcher
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  Speaker 7: can kind of maybe just start through that first time
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  Speaker 7: through while the shadows are there with maybe just a fastball.
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  Speaker 7: He almost doesn't have to use his off speed. because
• 9:55
  Speaker 7: while they're still struggling to pick up the ball a
• 9:56
  Speaker 7: little bit he can save maybe a pitch in his
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  Speaker 7: repertoire until the second time around or just can play
• 10:01
  Speaker 7: in the game plan but it's not an excuse you
• 10:02
  Speaker 7: can still get hits off him but uh i i'm
• 10:05
  Speaker 7: with you i don't like it being his crutch i'm
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  Speaker 7: just saying it's not.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing no i know hey by the way scotty i
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  Speaker 4: owe you.
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  Speaker 3: An apology thank you i want to stay in the
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  Speaker 3: shadows by the way never apologize i'm just the hype
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: never ever ever Hey, never.
• 10:19
  Speaker 6: Apologize to Scott, first of all.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe you said that. Well, it was a
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  Speaker 2: qualified position. Trust me.
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  Speaker 7: I don't.
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  Speaker 5: Know anything about them one way or another.
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  Speaker 6: No, but here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: I know as a catcher, I used to say, I
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: used to come in and lie to the pitcher and
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: be like, man, it's so hard to see right now, dude.
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  Speaker 4: You can just get them all out if you just
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: do A, B, and C. It's so hard to see. Man,
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  Speaker 4: I'm back there. I'm having a hard time catching, and
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: I know what's coming. Meanwhile, I'm just like, psh.
• 10:48
  Speaker 6: Oh, look at him up there.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: You're like, just, yeah, that's good. That would, I like that.
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  Speaker 7: That gives a picture where he's like, Oh, maybe my
• 10:55
  Speaker 7: stuff's playing better. I just got to throw strikes today.
• 10:57
  Speaker 7: And you're like, yeah, those.
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  Speaker 6: Shadows are so hard to see, man. And then I
• 11:01
  Speaker 6: used to hate it.
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  Speaker 4: Like when a guy would strike out on my own
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: team and they'd be like, how do you see back there?
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  Speaker 4: And I'll be like, yeah, the shadows are terrible, man.
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  Speaker 2: It's so hard.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: The raise also, received four nice innings from their bullpen.
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Wells, thank you, Mike Elias, and Steven Matz. So, AJ,
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  Speaker 3: that at least sets them up nicely for the next
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: day or two where we're also going to potentially deal
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: with weather. You know, they didn't have to use some
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: big boys here.
• 11:33
  Speaker 6: They can't move every game. I don't understand why they
• 11:36
  Speaker 6: can't move every game.
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: To another location?
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: No, just play them all in the trough.
• 11:41
  Speaker 6: Who cares? It doesn't rain in the trough most of
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  Speaker 6: the time.
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  Speaker 4: Every once in a while it does.
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  Speaker 2: Go to Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland, get a roof, Cleveland.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 11:49
  Speaker 5: It's only like a billion and a half dollars.
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  Speaker 4: No. I love Cleveland so much. I can't remember ever
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: going to Cleveland for a three-game series and it not raining.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: I don't think it was possible to go to Cleveland
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: and not in a three-game series not have at least
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: one to rain delay. That's why the clubhouse in Cleveland
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: was great because there was video games. There was a
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: million video games. So you got really good at Big
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: Buck Hunter and you got really good at– a golden
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: tee because you would sit there for hours and rain delays.
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  Speaker 6: You're like, Oh my God. Oh, we're in Cleveland. Guess
• 12:15
  Speaker 6: what guys? Rain delays coming.
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  Speaker 4: No way.
• 12:20
  Speaker 7: It's built for rain delays. It's, it's built for comfort.
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  Speaker 7: Those clubhouses at Cleveland, they know it.
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  Speaker 5: Same with the beginning of the season.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: I've spoken to players on the guardians, especially the ones
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: that are coming from say the Dominican Republic or a
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: Latin country where it's always warm.
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  Speaker 5: And they're like, I suck these first two months.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: It's 20 degrees.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, you just try to get a couple singles, a
• 12:44
  Speaker 7: single a day or something, just to get through April
• 12:46
  Speaker 7: when you're in Cleveland. Chicago, too.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: JJ knows.
• 12:49
  Speaker 7: That Midwest is cold as hell. So you just try
• 12:51
  Speaker 7: to kind of get through it until the sun starts
• 12:52
  Speaker 7: coming out. But Claude brings up a great point. That's
• 12:56
  Speaker 7: why we have a Mario Kart in the Cleveland home side.
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  Speaker 7: They're just like a big, one of those big arcade games.
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  Speaker 7: And Jose is like a world-renowned Mario Kart player now
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  Speaker 7: because he's just been on it every single rain delay
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  Speaker 7: or every single home game for the last however many
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  Speaker 7: years i.
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  Speaker 5: Think that's why he signed for a.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Discount he just wanted to keep playing mario i don't yeah.
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if any other team has this i
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: i need this it's like a kid when you're like
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: do you want a million dollars or candy and video
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: games candy video games well you can buy that stuff
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: with a million but say less yeah exactly uh well good.
• 13:31
  Speaker 6: For cleveland Who doesn't like candy and video games, Scott?
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: It's just a million dollars worth. You can buy a
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: lot more that way. Kip, let's finish with this. I mean,
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: I know we're still a couple games away from the
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: Guardians or a couple wins away from the Guardians getting
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: to the World Series, but there's.
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: A long, long, long history here.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: And I think Cleveland's drought is underrated because they have won.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: It's just been an eternity. You know, like Milwaukee hasn't won.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: A few years ago, the Rangers hadn't won. There's a
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: few other teams. The Rays haven't won. The Guardians haven't won.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: essentially haven't won unless you were watching ball in the 40s.
• 14:07
  Speaker 7: No yeah they're that drought feels longer than like a
• 14:12
  Speaker 7: franchise obviously that hasn't ever won because it's just I
• 14:16
  Speaker 7: mean nobody's pretty much around anymore it was really watching
• 14:19
  Speaker 7: it back then when they did win so I think
• 14:21
  Speaker 7: that was in 16 it was always talked about whereas
• 14:23
  Speaker 7: us and the Cubs and the two longest droughts well
• 14:25
  Speaker 7: the Cubs won and ours is Added 10 years to it,
• 14:28
  Speaker 7: so it's still going. We keep knocking on that door.
• 14:31
  Speaker 7: They've been in the postseason a lot in the last 10,
• 14:34
  Speaker 7: 15 years, dating back to when I was there. And
• 14:37
  Speaker 7: you're just hoping one of these years it becomes our year,
• 14:39
  Speaker 7: our turn.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: This could be it.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: We've talked about the American League being weak. The weak
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: American League, AJ.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: Still mad at Kip.
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: Didn't we talk about this.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: All year, though?
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: What do you mean?
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Why are you mad at me? Still mad at Kip.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Because the Cubs? Yeah.
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: Yes, because he knows exactly why I'm mad at him.
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: He knows why.
• 15:00
  Speaker 7: Try going and working for him after.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: 2016, yeah.
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: 2016, 3-1 lead.
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: Soccer for punishment.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Now I got to see all these crappy T-shirts say,
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: the greatest game ever played was on a Tuesday in Cleveland.
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: No, it wasn't. It was in Houston.
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: Makes two of us, dude.
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: Think about it.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I live in Chicago.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: I feel sorry for you.
• 15:23
  Speaker 7: Still see all the stuff when I'm pumping gas or anything,
• 15:26
  Speaker 7: just there's W flags and everything. And it's just like,
• 15:28
  Speaker 7: I'd like to think I'm numb to it or maybe, but,
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: or I've just, I don't know. I've considered moving just
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: for that reason.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Well, let me make you feel better on the topic
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: of pumping gas. Full count fueled by marathon.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there he is. We're fun.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Nice transition.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Save up to thank you. Save up to $ 1 a
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: gallon with marathon rewards. How do you come back from 3-0?
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Doug Minkiewicz has some thoughts. He's going to join us next. Hey,
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: while we're in break, getting ready for Doug. Average with
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: running and scoring position this postseason, Dan Clark's sports. And
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: he posted this last night. Was this probably before the game, AJ?
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: It was last night, so it was before the Dodger game.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: That number's probably still pretty crappy.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, they got one hit with a guy in
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: scoring position last night, so it actually probably went up, Scott.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be 089, I want to say.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: If they went anything better than one for 11, it
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: went up, so that's good math by me, because one
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: for 11 is 091, by the way. It's not that
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: I ever paid attention to my batting average when I
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: was hitting, but it had to go up because they
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: got at least one hit. Will Smith, I don't think
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: they got any other ones, but they got one.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: On the other end, you have the Brewers.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: You want to know why teams win or teams don't
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: win in the postseason? Show me teams that can get
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: big hits with runners in scoring position.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: They usually win.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: That's the way it is.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: Some people say that the stat is luck.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Some people also just have never played baseball and don't
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: realize how important and how certain people are better at
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: getting hits in big situations and want to be up
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: at times with the games on the line. And there
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: are certain people who are ultra-talented– that don't want to
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: be up in those situations. They would rather have somebody
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: else get the hit than them. There are people like that,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: and they are very good players, and I've played with them,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: and I'm sure Kip has played with them also. Yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: There's a word for that. Clutch.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: And it applies to many things in life. We're like, oh,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: he always gets it done. Whether it's, you know, he
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: makes the shot, he gets the hit.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: That's a thing. We're seeing that.
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: Well, there's some people that AJ's talking about. There's some
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: people that just want that at bat, and there's some
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: people that, like, It could be a game. You could
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: be down three, four or five runs, ninth inning, two outs.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: And they're like, instead of just extending this rally or
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: getting back into it, you're like, I don't want this
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: at bat. This crowd's on their feet chanting and they're
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: just trying to get out of there and just swing
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: it at the first pitch to kind of make contact
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: and get out. So there's guys who like that situation
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: and you just got to convince yourself and go for it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: Be like, what's the worst that could happen? I could
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: try and get out. I could not try and get out.
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: So might as well try. Might as well want that situation.
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: Only what happens if it goes well? How about thinking
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: it that way? But EJ's right. People who don't think
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: that way.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: Expectations. Expectations are a son of a gun, Kip. You
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: know that. There's guys. I remember this when I first
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: came up.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: They're like, man, if you hit 30 homers your rookie year,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: then people are going to expect you to hit 30 homers.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: And I played with some dudes that did it, that
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: had a lot of success when they were young. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: they're like, man, they expect me to do this every year?
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: It's impossible.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Hey, our friend Doug Mankiewicz joining us.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Perfect timing, too.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: Wait, does that say now pitching?
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: The whole thing.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Does that say now pitching?
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah. You never could hit where there's crap.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I could pitch better than I could hit
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: back in high school. By the way, that book you're
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: going to write about AJ being wrong, it's going to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: be a lot more pages. I can promise you that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I'm going to have you do, what's the beginning of
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the book? The forward or, you know, when they have
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: someone guest in it? be on, on the beginning of
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the book.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I'll take care of that. I'll take care of that.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: That might be the whole book. So you can just
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: have it at that point.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I'll give you a hundred pages, but I need a
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: book or a pitch on how you can come back
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: from three. Only one team has ever done it in baseball.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: It was your 2004 Boston Red Sox. So what advice
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: would you give to the Dodgers entering game four?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Dave is going to try to
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: channel his Tito Francona. You know, Terry was big on
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: wind today and, You try to take any little bit
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: of positive you can out of that. I mean, there's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: so many things that happened last night's game. The Dodgers
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: didn't win, but they broke through on their bullpen. Will
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Smith finally had a clutch, kind of had a ball
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: off the wall. It all boils down to pitching. And
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: if you think about this, I mean, if you could
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: have any four guys in the game to start to
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: win four games in a row, I'm going to argue
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: that Glassnow, Scooble, Yamamoto, and Snell would be your four. So,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: you know, I think it, A lot of things. Pride
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: kicks in. I know the only time I ever saw
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: our Red Sox team really get pissed was when we
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: were down 3-0. Like, there was some anger involved. Like,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: there's a kick to the pride that it's like, we're
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: not going out like this. And, you know, for the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: most part, you know, it sounds so cliche-ish and just
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: win today. You can't look at it as I got
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: four more games or three. I'm going to win tonight
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and win three more. Win right now and let the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: cards fall where they may. And they have the arms
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: All right, you mentioned the 2004 Red Sox. Who's going
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: to wear the bloody sock then?
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: Which one? Is it going to be Glass now? Yamamoto?
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Who's wearing the bloody sock? I guess Schilling did it in, what,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: game six? So that would be Yamamoto. He's going to
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: have to go bloody sock to rally the troops?
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a lot of guys in
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: that Dodger clubhouse that can handle the actual surgery that
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Schill did in the clubhouse right in the middle of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the training room. But– To me, it's like you guys
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: talked about it earlier on the show about how the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Brewers have to put their step on their throat now.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I think their best shot to win. Obviously, they're playing
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: extremely well. They're, you know, doing everything. They're playing how
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: they've played all year. And that's, you know, they just
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: get timely hits. Their bullpen's nails. They're pitching. They play
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the game right. All the things we've all talked about.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: They better– if you want to put them away, put
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: them away now. Glass now is their best shot. I
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: don't want to give– Momentum is a wonderful thing. I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: know people don't say, you know, the Twitter world think
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. It exists. And if you get one,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: look what just happened to Cleveland and the White Sox.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: You know, I think everybody in the world thought the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: White Sox were going home up to nothing. That series
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: was over. No, it takes one swing, one pitch, one
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: stolen base. And I think the, you know, I think
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you're seeing some of the Dodgers, like the added consistent
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: deep playoff runs are starting to wear on them. Um,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: but the same token, there's a lot of pride in that,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: in that clubhouse. There's a lot of pride in not
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: going out like this. And, you know, the hardest game
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: is to, the hardest game is to finish somebody off and,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you know, y'all Kobe, Brian, right. Jobs, not finished job,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: finished jobs, not finished. So, um, you know, I expect
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers to put their best game forward in game four.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: I want to bring it more back into the mindset
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: and the dugout a little bit when you guys are down, um,
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: Because it's just win today. And that's what you said.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: That's like the Francona motto and all that stuff. And
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: it's easier said than done. But it's that motto where
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: it's like, give me a full nine innings because not
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: just four or five and then, oh, they got a lead. Oh,
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: this might be our last game of the season. We
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: start kind of feeling sorry for ourselves. It's like, no,
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: what else do we have to lose? This could be
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: the last game. Then let's give a full nine innings.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Stay in it.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: What was like the communication between teammates if you guys
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: went down or what it would be like?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I think the one thing that's different about, I think,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: our series and their series, every time the Dodgers have scored,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: the Brewers have punched them right back in the mouth.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the most amazing thing the Brewers have
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: done is that every time the Dodgers have scored, they've
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: answered immediately. And that's something that, yeah, we had some
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: moments where it didn't feel great, but our group was
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: very steadfast and very believable and we understood what the
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: job was. And between Kevin walking around and telling everybody
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and we just had a belief that, that we're too
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: good to go out like this and we haven't played well.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And I think that's something you can look back at
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers or you look back at last year. The
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Dodgers were carried by their arms. Their offense wasn't that
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: great in the postseason last year. So you're looking at
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: one or two big hits all of a sudden, who knows?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And you keep, you know, I look at trying to
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: be as positive as possible defensively And they broke through
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: against the vaulted Brewer bullpen. That's a positive. It didn't
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: last long, but they got to them. They proved they're human.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And one little spark can change everything. You get Glass
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: now to get off to a good start. Will Smith
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: continues to swing the bat well. Tucker's been their godsend
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: for as much animosity as he took all year at
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: his contract and having a bad year. It's amazing how
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: guys that are used to doing well and don't have
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the year they're supposed to have you know, have amazing
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: post seasons and it wipes their off season. It wipes
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: their main season away. So, you know, like I said,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: it's a, it's a mindset, but I really truly believe
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: those guys have been through everything. They've, they've had to
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: battle from behind. I think they were behind against the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Padres in a five game series a couple of years
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: ago and, and did it. They have a lot of
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: pros on that team and I expect them to come
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: out and play their best baseball.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Brewers just– this is what the Brewers do.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Every time they give up a run, they did it
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: against the Padres too. They gave up a run. It
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: was like first and second before you could blink for
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: the Brewers the next inning.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: It was incredible.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know what– I don't know if Murph has
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: like voodoo, magic dust, fairy. I don't know what he does,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: but he's got something. Because as soon as they give
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: up a run, it's like boom, first and second.
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: He does. Nobody else. It's incredible.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: If you're the– but here's the thing. You know Dave Roberts.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: You played with Dave Roberts. You were on this team,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: and you know what Tito said. What's the message? I
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: know you said win right now, but does he have
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: a meeting with the guys? Did Tito have a meeting
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: in 2004, or was it player-driven? Because is Dave Roberts
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: going to go, you guys remember that stolen base I
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: had back in 2004? Or we can do it like
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: the Herb Brooks 1980 Olympic speech, or does he just say, guys,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: you're veterans.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: You know what to do. Let's go try to win
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: four games in a row.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Tito didn't say two words. He didn't have no speech.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: He just kind of looked at us when he walked
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: into his office after game three and was just like,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I think there's a different feel, too. We got our
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: brains kicked in in game three. We had no shot.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So to keep losing close games, it does have a.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I think back to... Someone was on first last night.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: It was after the Brewers came back, and they showed
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Freddie's face. And Freddie looked like he was exhausted. Like, man,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: here they come again. Here they come again. And that
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: gets demoralizing, but... I think it's a player-driven thing. Those guys,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: they don't need to say anything. I mean, you can
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: have all the rah-rah speeches you want, and they're great
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: if you're a coach. You feel better as a coach
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: when you leave that. But as a player, they know
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: what's at stake. If you can't get motivated in October,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: nothing's going to motivate you. But what you said about Murph,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: he's been doing this. I played against Murph when he
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: was at Notre Dame, Arizona State. Take Jake Bowers. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: thought Jake was one of the best pure hitters I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: managed against in the minor leagues. And I think he
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: chased the whole launch angle world because he had bat
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: to ball skills. And something happened where he just, you know, Murph,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: they let him be him. He made a few adjustments.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: And he just, you just look at a team that
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: plays so free and have such belief that if I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: don't do it, somebody else is. And what I love
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: that Murph does is they don't take anything for granted.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: They're going to get on first, and they're trying to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: take the game to somebody else. And I always feel
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: like if you're trying to beat someone that might be
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: quote-unquote better than you, you attack the hell out of
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: them and don't stop. And I think last year they
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: never really had the opportunity to. And you tell, they
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: get guys on first, they ran all year, they're going
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: to keep going. And tonight, that's my biggest fear with
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Glass now. If he gets guys on, it's going to
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: be a run, run, run, run. They haven't even sold
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: third yet, and I think they're going to tonight if
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: they have the opportunity.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: All right, you mentioned Jake Bowers. I mean, he's had
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: two epic at-bats in this postseason, right? The walk and then, obviously,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: the home run off Snell. How tough is it? I mean,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: you played first. You were a catcher as a younger kid,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: which was hilarious. I would have paid to have seen that,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: but at a higher level.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: But.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: You could.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I can tell you that. I watched you clank stuff
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: for years.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I saw you try to take throws from the outfield
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: and hit your shin and you quit.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: So I saw that too.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I never said I could catch it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: I saw it. I was a kid.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: If I tried to steal center.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Field, I would be in the gold gloves to catch her.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I made Torrey Hunter so good at coming in on
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the ball for me throwing it to center every night.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: But what do these at-bats do?
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: You know this. You've watched enough baseball. These at-bats from
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Jake Bowers. And it's not just Jake Bowers. It's all
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: these guys. They never– When you watch the other games,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: it's like one, two, three, strikeout.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: One, two, three, strikeout.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: With the Brewers, it's like, okay, we get to two strikes.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: And there is a change in approach. It is, I'm
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: going to go the other way. I'm going to stay
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: in it. What does that do to pitchers? Because I
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: know as a catcher, I was like, man, can this
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: dude just put the ball in play already?
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: Like, strikeout, get a hit. I don't care.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Let's just get the next guy up here so we
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: can try to get him out. Like, you know, as
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: a fielder, when you're standing out there, what does it
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: do to the fielders?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: It just puts you asleep. You're like, oh, my gosh.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Throw it behind them. Go on to the next guy.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But what you talked about, you guys talked about the shadows, right?
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: You talked about shadows on the segment before. If the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: leadoff hitter comes back and is like, man, I can't see,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the other eight hitters are like, oh, well, great. Here
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: we go. Well, if you see those at bats and
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you see the grind, they pass the baton. and you
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: wear out somebody, the next guy, it's a difference between
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: hitting for yourself and hitting as us, hitting as a team.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: They pass the baton. They keep grinding on you. And
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: if you keep grinding on you, they've proven that these
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: guys are arguably the best arms, best rotation in baseball,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and that those guys, when they get worn down, they
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: make mistakes like everybody else. And their approach has been phenomenal.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: They haven't changed. They've stayed exactly the same. The moment's
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: not too big. And that at bat has to do
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: nothing but breed confidence into everybody else because every foul ball,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the energy level goes up in the dugout. And you're like,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: look at this. He keeps doing this.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: Oh, my gosh.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: You better bounce it twice because he's going to do
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: something well. And, you know, don't take for granted either
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that Jake Bowers and Blake Snell, I think they overlapped
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but they did know each other because
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: they played in the same system with the Rays. So,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: you know, the familiarity to what it looks like and
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: what he's expecting, that played into something I was watching
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: last night.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: I'm going to turn to the Dodgers lineup just for
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: a second here, where I know Otani usually gets the
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: headlines and stuff with his struggles and everything like that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: I'd like to think that, or my personal opinion is,
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: he's got two other MVPs in this lineup with Freddie
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: and Mookie that aren't exactly lighting the world on fire either.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: So Onus shouldn't all just be on him. But what
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: are you seeing from Otani this series that, what's different
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: from during the season, or how is he being pitched different?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: What are you noticing?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I just think he's hurt. I mean, I just don't
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: think he hits you. when your engine's not working as
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: a hitter and I, AJ hit the nail on the head.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I hate to give him credit, but talking about the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: pitching thing, it just wore on him. And he's, you
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: have a shoulder and a knee. Now it's tough to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: chase the ball up. Kip, you're like battle, bad shoulder.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Last thing you want to do is left-handed hitters, chase
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: the ball up. That hurts when you miss. I just
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: think he's out of gas. And last night was his
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: best shot because he had that, that day off. Of course,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: he's going to say he wants to play, but, you know,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: as much as your stars, you want them to be stars.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: You kind of need someone. Kike has saved them over
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the years. You know, Rojas with the, they've had one
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: of those, you know, I always call them the wedge
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: breaker on the punt on the kickoff team. You need
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: those guys to come up to. And Edmund had a
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: great post-season last year. They're just lacking. And I thought
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: when Will Smith finally barreled that ball up off the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: wall last night, I thought, Oh, does Edmund, just how
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: momentum changes one way, it can change the other way too.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And I thought the biggest out of that game was,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I think it was Kike's at bat, was second and third.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Because you think, oh my gosh, they go up three here,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: drop another guy in, they're up two, now it makes
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: it three. That changes everything in a 2-0 series. And
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the Brewers, to their credit, they just kept coming and
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: they put the fire out and the next thing you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: they're down again. So I mean, those little key moments
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: can change a lot, and it can change a mindset.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: It can change almost like an aura of your team,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: and you almost feel like, okay, we're like– the Brewers
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: have to feel like they're invincible right now.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no kidding.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: By the way, I just want to know this because
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: we played with David Ortiz, David Arias, whatever, you know, whichever.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Name he's going by.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Whichever name he's going by. Or whichever set of chiclets
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: he has these days, which is– they're looking good, by
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: the way. They're bright.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: They're bright.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: They're shiny.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I looked at it. I thought the first thing I
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: thought was like, that's, that's Timu Michael Strahan. Like when
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: he was, I'm like, he's just glowing now, man. It
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: looks awesome. I love it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: Uh, let's not cuss.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: We can't cuss.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: Cause the Cubs are Cubs and Marky. I know I do.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: I slip up too. I get yelled at.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Um, what would David have said if, if, if, Terry
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Francona in 2004, I mean, I guess Shohei's on a
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: different level, even than David, who was a god in Boston.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: He would have said, David, you're struggling.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: You know what, David?
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: We're not going to play you. David would have, what,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: thrown something?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, he would have beat the crap out of
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: the phone again like he did in Baltimore that time, right?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: There was no way that Shohei wasn't playing.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: We were never Shohei, right? You can remember back when
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Garty would try to give us a day off, we'd
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: literally rip the lineup off the wall and be like, Garty,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: try it again. Like, my hip or my knee doesn't hurt.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: half as bad as Shannon Stewart's plantar fasciitis or Jock
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Jones's knee or your knees or your ankle that year. So,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you know, having him in there, I know presence, but like,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: what are you going to replace him with? No one's
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: swinging the bat well. So, you know, as banged up
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: as he is, yes, I always feel like superstars, when
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: they don't do what they're supposed to do, they're being
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: compared to themselves. And that's almost unfair. I mean, he
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: had three home runs in a game last year in
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: a playoff. And won the game on the mound. That
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen. So you're getting compared to yourself, who's the
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: best player in the world. So, you know, you just,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: there's no way Shohei Otani is going to go in
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: there and be like, yeah, I need a day off.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: That's just not going to happen. He's going to go
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: out there with one leg if he has to and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: give himself a shot to help his team win a game.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And that's not going to work out. I thought about
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that too, as a manager, like how would you approach that?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: But hey, You got to ride with the horses that
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: got you there. And you know what? I don't truly
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: believe that Shohei Otani needs both healthy legs and two
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: healthy arms to hit a home run either. I think
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: he's that good he can do it. But you just
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: got to give it. Sometimes it's not always how you're swinging.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: It's how the other team's attacking you with their arms
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that deserve the credit over how you're swinging it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: I agree with that.
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: And I think you guys are talking about being pulled.
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: They're not even getting the chance to be in the game.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: But we saw a tweet of yours about an hour
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: ago of, getting pulled maybe a little early when you
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: are in the game. So I think you had something
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: to say about Gavin Williams, only 70 pitches and getting
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: the hook there. Is that just the new age game?
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: And that's just kind of, we have to deal with it.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: Are we ever going to see that go back to
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: where they let starters go seven or eight, but what,
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: what is your real opinion on this?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: First thing I thought it was third time through the order.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: It's all we hear about now, right? We're here by
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the analytics and through the order, but I was just
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: thinking game three, you have three straight games at home on,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: knowing that games four and five tend to get a
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: little lengthy. You're going to need all the outs you
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: can get. Your guy is, your horse is mowing and
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: he's got 70 pitches. It wasn't like there was decline
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and stuff. He's still throwing 99, 100 miles an hour,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: wipeout slider. Sure, he gave up a double or triple
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: with an RBI, but you're going to need length from somebody.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: And the more times you can limit your bullpen from
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: being seen by the other team, I think it's your advantage.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: You have an opportunity to, to let your horse go
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: one more inning, I felt like that kind of sets
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: up the rest of the way. You can't really look
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: at it as– I understand his answer was we expect
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: to play another two weeks, and he had two starts
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and another relief appearance. We've got to take it easy
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: on him. He's got three months to rest. Don't give
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: me that. He's your horse. I think you ride him
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: a little longer. But it worked out. I always– I
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: text AJ during that inning– I feel like if you
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: bring in someone else that has different stuff, okay, maybe.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: But you brought in a guy throwing 100 too, so
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: what's the difference in fastballs? I just feel like when
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: it's your ace, that's what you have them there for.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: And if you could have mapped this out from day
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: one in spring training to think it's a 1-1 series
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: tied at home with Williams on the mound, he's got
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: 70 pitches going into the sixth, I think you would
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: take that every day of the week and twice on
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Sunday to let him go. So I just felt like
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it was, it was, and I think today's players don't
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: have the same, I don't know what's the right word,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the same makeup to go into and be like, yeah,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you're not taking me out of the game. I got,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I got 70 pitches, like sit down. I got this.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I think that aspect is gone to where, I mean,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: think about CC, come get the ball from CC at
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: 70 pitches. He would have bit your head off. I mean,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, CC would have, I mean, besides tackling him
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: down the runway, there's no way you're getting the ball
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: from him. You know, AJ has a million guys that
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: he played with that was like, you're absolutely not taking
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: me out of this situation. Think about taking Pedro out
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: or Schill. There's no way. And I always feel like
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: you ride your horse, your best option is still out there.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Let him go.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Doug, before we let you go, I know you have
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: an important baseball tournament coming up. Uh, you're the, are
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: you the third base coach by the way? Are you
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: the third base coach of the 18 U USA baseball team?
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: You guys are headed to the Dominican Republic this week.
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: Is it this week? End of this week? Correct.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Correct. Uh, sorry, we go to Miami tomorrow and then
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: we fly out, play eight games in eight days. And, uh,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: thank you again, AJ, if people don't know AJ was
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: a part of that. They helped us kind of mold
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: this team, and he was huge for us, and we're
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: looking forward to bringing him back. But, yes, we have
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: our Pan American Games, which is our qualifier. We qualify
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: in the DR. We go to China next year for
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the World Championships. So this is my sixth or seventh
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: year doing this and looking forward to hopefully not getting
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: anybody thrown out of home.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: All right, well, I just want to say good luck.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know if Kip ever played for Team USA.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: I never was fortunate enough to play for Team USA.
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: You won a gold medal.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: 2002, I've heard your speech a million times. You still
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: cry like a baby every time you tell it. I mean,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: it gets bigger and bigger. At one point, I mean,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I saw the home run. It barely went over the wall.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Now you tell it like it left Australia, like you
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: hit it to New Zealand. So, I mean, you know,
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: some things aren't always true. Like just because you're crying
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean the ball went farther.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: The ball went way farther. The ball, I mean, I
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: know it's hard to see because it's on. That was
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: probably one of the hardest balls, farthest balls I've ever hit. But, yes,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: that's hard to see because it's probably on a VCR
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: tape because it was so long ago. But yeah, you know,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: it gets me choked up every time just because of
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: where I was in my career and what the Olympics
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: meant to my family. And, you know, just kind of
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: emotionally spent at the end of the year. And yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: every time I tell the story, it gets me back. And,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: you know, thank you for pointing that out, AJ. I
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: appreciate that.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: What'd you say?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe AJ had a heart. He would cry more often.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I cry all the time I can't even tell you
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: the last time I cried all the time I can't
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: even whine all the time but I can't even tell
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: you the last time I cried I'm trying to even
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: think about it I can't even tell you.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: That's how blessed you are that's what that silver spoon
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: started a long time ago and it's still in there.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: Or how black my heart is as some people would
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: tell me You know.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I always got your back no matter what people say
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: about you. I only believe 1%.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: And just make sure in 2039, we have a book
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: coming out, the AJ Book of Wrongs.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: Doug Mankiewicz with the 100-page forward.
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: W1.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: We're working on this, guys.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Thank you. I've got guests joining me for the book. Doug,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: good stuff, man. Thank you.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: And we'll see if the Dodgers take your advice tonight.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: All right. Thanks for having me.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I like to talk schedule when we talk SeatGeek. That's
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: the point here for these few minutes. During the season,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: we try and find a ticket you want. This is
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: getting a little easier as there are not that many
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: games left. But we have dedicated this segment lately to
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: the weather. Kip, I don't know how closely you're paying
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: attention to the weather in Cleveland, but it could be
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: yet another opportunity for fans to take advantage on SeatGeek,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: being that it looks like weather is going to be
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: an issue again in Cleveland for Game 4.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Maybe Game 5 too, they were hinting. I don't know.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: I haven't looked that deeply.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: What are we dealing with there, and do you think
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: that players and or fans are bothered by the weather
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: pushing their game to 1 o'clock, and they can't blame
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: the league, the TV networks. They can't blame anybody but
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Mother Nature.
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think if you ask anybody in Cleveland, they're
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: rather sensitive to rain delays since 2016. So they don't
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: love that any time it comes up. But listen, there's
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: nothing you can do about it. You just hope it's
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: on a weekend or at least a time where, hey,
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: if they're going to the game, they've set aside that
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: entire day to do it. just so they're a little
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: bit flexible and can still make the games. In Cleveland,
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: they're such good fans. They're going to be there regardless,
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: I think, because they're going to move heaven and earth
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: to get there and cheer on the team. That's how
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: good of fans they are. But they don't love the
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: idea of rain delays, and they definitely, when you spend
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: the hard-earned money and have set out to go cheer
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: in the playoffs, it's not ideal to have it be switched,
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: especially when you can't control anything or do anything about it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Okay. Okay. Here's the thing.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: I just said I've never been to Cleveland for three
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: days and not rain, so we're used to it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: You guys should be used to it. But I'm going
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: to say this. You want a Seat Geek? Here's your
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: Seat Geek.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: You better go to the Dodger game tonight, boys and girls,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: because it could all be over. That's it. You better
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: go to Seat Geek if you're in the L.A., California area,
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: and you want to see this Dodger team play maybe
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  Speaker 4: for the last time this year. You better get your tickets,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: and you better get there early. You better get there
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  Speaker 4: in the first five innings, okay? Because– It could all
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: be over tonight. The dynasty could end tonight. The giant
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: could be slayed tonight, and there'll be a lot of
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: happy people, not Dodger fans.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: You know who's all over SeatGeek right now? Brewers fans.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Seeing the percentage chance that they're going to witness some
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  Speaker 3: World Series baseball for the first time since 1982. Those
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland or Tampa Bay, depending on who wins it. Milwaukee
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: looking very likely on the other side. Hey, AJ, Ozzie's
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: writing a get well card to White Sox super fan,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Pope Leo, and we're all thinking about him.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, yeah, this sucks. I mean, it was
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: a rough weekend in Chicago. White Sox lost.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Bears got smashed by the Packers, and we find out
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  Speaker 4: that the Pope has lung cancer, which, I mean, he
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: had surgery, successful surgery, but you never want to hear
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: the C word. So hopefully he gets well soon. It's
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: very cool that Ozzie sent him that. Yeah, we're all
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: thinking about you. I mean, I would have sent him
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: a card too, but how do I know it's going
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: to get there? Like, where do you mail a card.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: To the Pope?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I didn't know.
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  Speaker 4: Ozzie has a better pull than I do because he
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: can send it directly there. Mine would probably get lost
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: somewhere in the email.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, get well, please. Pope Leo, we'll hopefully see
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  Speaker 6: you again soon.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: You have Paul.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: You were with him.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm sure there's, you know, you got to go
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: through the layers, the guy to the guy to the guy.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: But somebody could get the message across.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: And it's just Ozzie.
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: You could send it through Ozzie.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: It might be a little louder.
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, through Ozzie.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: Ozzie's the guy.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: Get him on TV for sure.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't miss Ozzie.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we're thinking about Pope Leo, baseball super fan.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: You know, it's been a cool story this year. Always
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: cool when you have certain celebrities or other people outside
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: of baseball that are just deeply in love with a
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: certain team or the sport itself. And this was definitely
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: a unique case this year that really took the Southside by.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Storm at times.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: It should have.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: A giveaway.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: It was very cool. And AJ's visit, of course.
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: Imagine if he threw a first pitch.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Let's sizzle.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Hot Corner Time.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: It's presented by Fox One. You can watch the NLCS
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: and it's dwindling right now. For the Dodgers, the World
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Series will be on Fox One as well. But Kip,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: what's been your take? We've talked a lot about this.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: We did a postgame show last night. We'll do another
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: one tonight. This is kind of serving this segment as
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: a pre-pre-game for what's going down tonight. Tyler Glass now,
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: part of a rotation with big names, but only one
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: team's ever come back from this 3-0 deficit.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: Do you think the Dodgers have the.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Gas.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: Forget the names. They have the gas. Years of playing
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: deep like this, is that taking a toll on them? Sure.
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: I think there's enough energy and adrenaline and stuff to
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: make a final push. If there was ever a lineup
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: to get through and to make a comeback, like Minkiewicz
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: said earlier, whether it's Glasnow to Skubal to Yamamoto to
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: whoever it may be, I think that's who I'd like
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: to turn the ball over to. But it's almost... it's a,
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: it's a two things can be true. I think the
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: Dodgers are running out of steam and their offense has
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: just gotten cold. And it's kind of, you look at
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: how playoffs play out. The people that lose is because
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: their offense has just gotten cold. Um, and then the
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: other side of it, Milwaukee just looks that good right now.
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: They just look like they're playing their best brand of baseball.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: We talked at any time Dodgers scored the Milwaukee answered
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: right back. It looks like they have just come prepared
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: and wanted to return the favor from last year, losing
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: to them. And, um, They just look, I mean, you
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: can say that they don't have the better roster, but
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: they just look like the better team right now. Milwaukee does.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: They're good.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: Milwaukee's really good, by the way.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Milwaukee, anytime you don't hit, everyone says you don't have energy,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: you're not excited, you're not up for the game. If
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: you get hits, guess what? Everyone gets excited. You can
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: go out there and win 1-0, and everyone's like, man,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: look how excited that team is versus, and he scored
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: one more run than the other.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Team, so.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: It's going to be interesting tonight to see how the
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Dodgers react to this. They've got Glass now going against
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: a bullpen day for the Brewers. The Brewers have a
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: great bullpen. Let's see if the lineup can actually score
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: some runs.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: Figure it out.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Show a back of the top of the lineup. Dave
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Roberts is trying to mix it up a little bit.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Go back to the way things were. We'll see if
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: it works because they've got a long way to go
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: to try to win. Because if I'm betting on this,
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: which we obviously do every day, you're betting on the
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: Brewers to win this series. And it's been– Pretty much
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: a one-sided affair so far.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: They asked media, somebody asked if Yamamoto or Scoogle would
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: be available.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: Dave Roberts was like, no. This ain't game seven.
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I just want to, it's almost, you always
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: hear about the Dodgers and buying the big free agents
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: and all the sexy picks with i.e. Scoogle and everyone,
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: but I think it's good that people are finally realizing
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: just how damn good Milwaukee is too. They won the
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: most games in the league this year. They were the
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: best team in the league this year. I think they
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: just made, you always hear small markets. So they don't
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: maybe get their full credit. They are good in every
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: facet of this game.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Let's do this.
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: Murph was my manager in college. He's going to have
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: them ready to play and ready to run through a
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: wall every single game.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, you played for Murph. How do you think
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: he's handling game four?
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: It's tough. I think he'd like to end this here
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: and now. I don't think he wants to go to five.
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: I think he'd love to rest Miz and all of
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: his bullpen guys, so I think it'll play out. The
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: first four or five innings will decide if Dodgers are
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: up maybe a few runs. I think then you see
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: him punt on it and maybe not use those guys,
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: but if it's a high game or a one-run game,
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: I think he's going to bring out his big boys
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: and keep them close because he's going to expect his
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: offense to to score some runs and get them right
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: back on the lead. And he'd like to put it
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: away now to give those guys maybe a little bit
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: longer rest and have his rotation, his bullpen set up
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: for the world series though. So I don't, it's Pat Murphy.
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: He's not looking to lose any game that he goes into.
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: So he, if he can win this one and end
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: it here and now he will.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: AJ, I'm sure he'd love to not have Ms. Start
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: again in this series.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: Yes. Yeah, I'm not just saying for winning. I'm saying
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: for preservation, too.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Just preservation, and you don't want to give them any breath, man.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: You've all seen the Kevin Millar clip where he's like,
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: don't let us get one, don't let us get one,
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: don't let us get one.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: He's telling everybody.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: And that's what Dave Roberts is walking around telling his players.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Don't let us get one, guys. And Pat Murphy's saying,
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: don't let them get one. You heard Ozzie Guillen tell
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: the story. He's told us a bunch of times, like
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: I said the other day. He told us before we
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: swept the Astros. You don't think the Astros ever won
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: four games in a row, guys?
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: To get to the world. Series? Let's go.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: And we went out and won that fourth game and
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: swept the Astros in the World Series. So one side saying, hey,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: we can do this, and the other side, the Brewers,
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: is saying don't give them any hope. Jump on them early.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: Put this game away early, boys, and don't give the
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Dodgers any hope because I'll tell you this right now.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: If the Dodgers jump out, I mean, excuse me, if
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: the Brewers jump out to a.
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: Lead in this game, you will see.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Big dogs coming.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: You will just, no, you'll just see everybody from the Dodgers,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: they'll start booing, the fans will start getting them, and
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: the pressure will just come and come and come on
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers, and it's going to change.
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: You know this, Kip.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: You know how it goes, man. When it's an elimination game,
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: you fall behind, all the pressure gets on you.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: That's why we've talked about it actually before, where it's
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: just like those home playoff games, those like, Let's go
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: turns into like, let's go. Like it's almost like a
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: begging almost where they, and they start to turn and
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: they start to get pissed on their home crowd. And no,
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: I agree with you. I said vice versa, the Milwaukee,
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: the big dogs would be coming out then if they
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: get a little lead on this and they'll look to
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: end that there now.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 50:24
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  Speaker 3: Hey, let's slap and let's shout out some of the
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  Speaker 3: cool Cleveland guardians designs that we've got on territory shop.com.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: What's your favorite of the four that we have listed here?
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: Uh, that's a lot. There's a cool shirt, but that
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: J Ram with those, I like that at all. Anime
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: J Ram.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the animated Jose Ramirez. You got DeLauder. That's like
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: the classic. Petey flipping. That's the fresh one on the left.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: The bat flip.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Petey flipping.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: They'll have him at Cleveland.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: You would like that.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: And then you got the classic hit the Quan. This
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: team's got it right now.
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: They got it all going.
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: I mean, again, if they can get like contributions like
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: they are from the bottom of the order or, or
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: some big swings out of Patrick Bailey and, and helping
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: like that, uh, this lineup start to pick up games.
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: If they can feed off that to match their pitching,
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: they are a tough team to beat.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: The game three that they just won, like Kit mentioned
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: is exactly the brand of baseball that they play and
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: where they thrive. That one run win, that one Homer,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: that bullpen lights out that four out save every day.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Cade, Good stuff.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: We'll see people tonight on the postgame show after the
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: NLCS game four concludes.