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Peter and the UFOs: A True Story of Contact · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Thank you
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Speaker 1: for joining me. I've got a really interesting episode for
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Speaker 1: you today. I think I call this one Peter and
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Speaker 1: the UFOs. This is a little bit different from a
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Speaker 1: lot of episodes I've presented here. This one is all
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Speaker 1: about one person's experiences. It's one case, but it's really
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Speaker 1: quite extensive. It involves a gentleman I call Carter Wells.
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Speaker 1: That's not his real name. He insisted upon being anonymous,
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Speaker 1: and in fact, he had no intention of sharing his
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Speaker 1: story whatsoever. It was actually his son who contacted me
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Speaker 1: and asked if I could interview his father. His father
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Speaker 1: did not want to talk to me at first. It
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Speaker 1: took some convincing. As long as he remains anonymous and
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Speaker 1: gets no attention, he decided it was okay to share
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Speaker 1: his story. And yeah, it's different from most. It does
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Speaker 1: involve humans and high strangeness certainly, but it's got a
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Speaker 1: lot to it, missing time on board experiences implants, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the whole deal, but a lot of real high strangeness
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Speaker 1: and paranormal stuff that goes beyond a lot of what
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Speaker 1: other cases I've investigated have so I think you'll find
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Speaker 1: it quite interesting because it is very unusual. Then. This
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Speaker 1: case is taken from my book Humanoids in High Strangeness,
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Speaker 1: and it's probably one of my favorite chapters in the book.
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Speaker 1: So I'm super excited to share it with you today,
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Speaker 1: and I think you'll find it quite interesting. I certainly hope. So.
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Speaker 1: Who was nineteen sixty eight and thirteen year old Carter
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Speaker 1: Wells was walking to school with his best friend, Jackson
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Speaker 1: Groves against pseudonyms. Jackson lived just down the street from Carter,
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Speaker 1: and because they both went to the same school, they
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Speaker 1: had to walk the same route every day, they had
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Speaker 1: plenty of time to get to know each other, and
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Speaker 1: they became friends and they soon enjoyed long, deep conversations
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Speaker 1: with each other, talking about anything and everything they could imagine.
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Speaker 1: And they were both really good students. They liked learning
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Speaker 1: and exploring strange new things. So one day, as they
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Speaker 1: were walking to school, Jackson became unusually pensive and silent,
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Speaker 1: and Carter could clearly see that something was bothering him,
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Speaker 1: so he asked him, what's going on? Why are you
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Speaker 1: so quiet? What happened? And Jackson said, well, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to tell you because I think you might think
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Speaker 1: I'm crazy, but Carter assured him he wouldn't and said,
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Speaker 1: just tell me what happened. Jackson turned to him and
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Speaker 1: said that the last night, he woke up in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the night, standing in the center of his
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Speaker 1: room and looking at his bed, he saw that his
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Speaker 1: body was actually still in bed. Was confusing because he
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Speaker 1: knew he was totally awake, everything around him looked real.
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Speaker 1: He knew it wasn't dream and that's when he realized
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Speaker 1: he was having an out of body experience. And as
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Speaker 1: soon as he realized that, in the blink of an eye,
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Speaker 1: he was back in his body and he woke up.
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Speaker 1: So Carter was amazed by this and told him, man,
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Speaker 1: you're not crazy. That sounds really interesting to me. So
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Speaker 1: Carter himself had always had very vivid, lucid like dreams,
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Speaker 1: and hearing about his friend's astral projection experience got him
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Speaker 1: very excited. So they spent the rest of the walk
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Speaker 1: going to school talking about Jackson's out of body experience.
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Speaker 1: They had heard of astral projection, but only a little bit.
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Speaker 1: They knew almost nothing about it, but they both were
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Speaker 1: convinced that Jackson had had a genuine out of body experience,
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Speaker 1: and the more they talked about it, the more interested
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Speaker 1: they became in this subject and vowed to learn how
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Speaker 1: to do it. As Carter says, I just thought it
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Speaker 1: was one of the coolest ways to find stuff out.
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Speaker 1: You could just go anywhere. To be honest, I thought
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Speaker 1: it would be fun to go into the girls dressing
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Speaker 1: room and spy on naked babes. I wanted to go
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Speaker 1: check out planets and go into the earth. I just thought, man,
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Speaker 1: this is like being a genie. You could go anywhere.
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Speaker 1: You can fly. The walls can't stop you. My friend
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Speaker 1: Jackson and I we were so into it. We were
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Speaker 1: like Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn astral buddies. We thought
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Speaker 1: we'd go out in Gallivant and have a blast. So
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Speaker 1: at this time they were living in Toronto in Ontario, Canada,
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Speaker 1: and they went directly to the library to find some
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Speaker 1: books on this could not find one single book. But
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Speaker 1: Jackson had an idea. He had done a paper route
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Speaker 1: since he was a little kid, and he had gotten
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Speaker 1: to know the local neighborhood pretty good, and he knew
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Speaker 1: about a place called the Rosicrucian Center. This was located
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Speaker 1: near the intersection of dan Forth Broadview and you can
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Speaker 1: see it here. This is the Rosicrucian Center where they
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Speaker 1: went to visit because Jackson knew that they had a
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Speaker 1: library of esoteric books and he thought, well, maybe they
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Speaker 1: have something on the subject. So, as Carter says, we
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Speaker 1: just boldly went knocking on their door. One day. This
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Speaker 1: old lady met us at the door and we asked
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Speaker 1: her if we could access their library. She kind of
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Speaker 1: looked at us, she looked above us and all around us.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what she was doing. I thought she
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Speaker 1: was crazy. She was kind of goofy, and I was
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Speaker 1: getting ready to leave, But then she gave us the
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Speaker 1: go ahead. So they both went into the library. Searched
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Speaker 1: the shelves for any kind of book on astral projection,
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Speaker 1: and there wasn't a single one. But Carter did find
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Speaker 1: an interesting book called Cosmic Consciousness. This is written by
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Speaker 1: Richard Maurice Buck. It's a very well known book. While
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Speaker 1: it doesn't provide instructions on astral travel or even really
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Speaker 1: talk about it at all, it was all about raising
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Speaker 1: one's consciousness and this really captured Carter's attention, and it
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Speaker 1: soon became his favorite book. I mean he was reading
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Speaker 1: it in school other than his school textbooks. So one
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Speaker 1: way or another, both were very much committed to trying
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Speaker 1: to achieve astral projection. As Carter says, I just immersed
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Speaker 1: myself in this stuff. Every day after school, we'd go home,
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Speaker 1: go to my room, and we'd try to leave our
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Speaker 1: bodies until dinner time. So what happened was we kind
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Speaker 1: of activated something in ourselves by practicing this all the time.
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Speaker 1: So this went on for a couple of years. Both
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Speaker 1: boys read anything they could find about esoteric subjects and spirituality.
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Speaker 1: Both became huge fans of science fiction. They continued to
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Speaker 1: meditate and try to astral project but unfortunately they never
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Speaker 1: did succeed. But then something very strange and synchronistic happened.
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Speaker 1: Was one evening, as Jackson was walking home from his
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Speaker 1: girlfriend's housese. This is when he lived in the small
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Speaker 1: town of Newmarket. She did, so it was a pretty
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Speaker 1: long distance to Jackson's home and he had to hitchhike
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Speaker 1: and often would. So he was walking along an isolated
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Speaker 1: section of highways surrounded only by fields, when a truck
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Speaker 1: suddenly pulled over next to him. Two men exited the
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Speaker 1: truck and kind of whispered to him, be careful. The
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Speaker 1: guy that's driving is really weird. And the two men
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Speaker 1: walked off into the fields. And this was weird because
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Speaker 1: there was nothing out there, and Jackson's like, well, where
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Speaker 1: the heck are they going again? Back in those days,
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Speaker 1: hitchhiking was much more popular and wasn't really considered dangerous
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Speaker 1: at any rate. When the truck door remained open, Jackson
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Speaker 1: climbed up to the front passenger seat and looked at
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Speaker 1: the driver. He was amazed to see this enormously obese man, humongous.
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Speaker 1: He was Caucasian, appeared to be in his mid thirties,
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Speaker 1: and sandy brown hair was slightly balding. But it was
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Speaker 1: what this man said next that left Jackson absolutely amazed,
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Speaker 1: because the man knew his name, and he said, well, Jackson,
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Speaker 1: he was smiling, how is it going with the astral traveling?
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Speaker 1: So Jackson, needless to say, was absolutely amazed. He had
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Speaker 1: never seen this man before. This man did not know him,
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Speaker 1: and he had not talked really about his efforts to
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Speaker 1: learn astral projection with anything but Carter, So there was
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Speaker 1: no way this man could know this, So Jackson asked him,
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Speaker 1: how do you know my name? And how do you
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Speaker 1: know about what I'm trying to do? And the man
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Speaker 1: threw his head back and laughed loudly, and he said, oh,
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Speaker 1: you know, we've been sort of keeping our eyes eyes
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Speaker 1: on you guys for a while. So this really stunned
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Speaker 1: him to the degree that he didn't know how to react,
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Speaker 1: and instead they began to talk, and this is when
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Speaker 1: the man introduced himself as Peter and said that he
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Speaker 1: worked as a truck driver delivering produce to various towns
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Speaker 1: outside of Toronto, and that he was very encouraged to
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Speaker 1: learn that Jackson and his friend Carver were interested in
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Speaker 1: these deep spiritual subjects. Jackson says he felt immediately at
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Speaker 1: ease with this man, felt like he was an old friend.
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Speaker 1: Peter seemed to exude confidence and wisdom and kindness like
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Speaker 1: nobody else he had ever met, so before he knew it,
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Speaker 1: they had arrived at Jackson's home. Jackson asked if you
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Speaker 1: could meet Peter again. They agreed, They exchanged phone numbers,
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Speaker 1: and it was a week or two later that Peter
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Speaker 1: agreed to meet Jackson and showed up at his house
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Speaker 1: In a small car, they drove off together to a
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Speaker 1: small basement apartment on the outskirts of Toronto. Now Peter
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Speaker 1: didn't talk much about himself, but did say that he
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Speaker 1: grew up in the suburbs of Cabbage Town. This was
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Speaker 1: not a good neighborhood. But they talked into the night
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Speaker 1: about all kinds of deep subjects, mostly spiritual and philosophical,
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Speaker 1: and Peter explained to Jackson that all humans have psychicabilities
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Speaker 1: that they have only beg begun to understand. And at
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Speaker 1: one point he set an ash tray in front of
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Speaker 1: Jackson and said, okay, learn about the universe. Make it disappear.
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Speaker 1: So very much intrigued, Jackson focused on the ashtray and
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Speaker 1: concentrated on making it disappear. Obviously, it did not work,
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Speaker 1: but Peter explained that humans do have all kinds of
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Speaker 1: psychic abilities that they can call forth the wind, and
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Speaker 1: he actually demonstrated this for Jackson, and Jackson said that
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Speaker 1: he seemed to be able to read his mind because
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Speaker 1: he would have answered Jackson's questions as he formulated them.
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Speaker 1: So this went on throughout the night, and it was
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Speaker 1: all about trying to help Jackson learn to grow and
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Speaker 1: develop his psychic abilities. At one point, Peter did bring
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Speaker 1: up the subject of UFOs and said that he actually
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Speaker 1: worked with the ets and flew their craft transporting various
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Speaker 1: freights around. But Jackson was mostly struck by Peter's incredible
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Speaker 1: kindness and wisdom. He said, the man out of presence
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Speaker 1: about him that made him seem totally drawsworthy and very
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Speaker 1: spiritually advanced. So they talked about all kinds of subjects.
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Speaker 1: He said. Peter was incredibly funny as well, and would
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Speaker 1: just say things that would leave Jackson in spasms of laughter.
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Speaker 1: The evening finally ended and Peter drove Jackson home, promising
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Speaker 1: to meet him again. So the third meeting came a
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Speaker 1: short time later. Peter showed up at Jackson's house again
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Speaker 1: driving a different car, a fancy convertible, and they took
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Speaker 1: a drive out into the country, and Jackson found himself
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Speaker 1: sharing all about his interests of going into space, learning
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Speaker 1: how to do out of body travel, science fiction. He
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Speaker 1: said there was something about this guy that made it
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Speaker 1: easy to talk to him about anything, and at one point,
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Speaker 1: while they were returning home back to Toronto, Peter suddenly pulled
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Speaker 1: the car over on a remote section of highway, and
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Speaker 1: normally very smiling and jovial, he became suddenly stern and
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Speaker 1: made an announcement that really caught Jackson off guard. Peter said,
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Speaker 1: if I called down a spaceship right now, would you
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Speaker 1: be willing to go for a ride. And Jackson felt
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Speaker 1: this wave of fear when he realized Peter was being
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Speaker 1: entirely serious and he had no doubt Peter could actually
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Speaker 1: do this, and he was afraid if he said yes,
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Speaker 1: a UFO would show up. And I mean, things suddenly
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Speaker 1: became far too real. It was too much, and Jackson
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Speaker 1: said no thanks, and hearing this, Peter threw back his
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Speaker 1: head and just laughed and laughed. And it was at
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Speaker 1: that moment this really powerful wind swept down and swirled
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Speaker 1: all around them. It was so strong, he said, it
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Speaker 1: practically lifted him out of the car. So there was
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Speaker 1: this weird calling of the wind again, which is something
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Speaker 1: that would happen over and over again. So finally Jackson
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Speaker 1: shared all this with Carter, and Carter was astonished because he,
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Speaker 1: you know, Peter sounded absolutely incredible, and Carter said, you know,
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Speaker 1: I really want to meet him, and Jackson said okay.
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Speaker 1: So Carter was super excited. This would be the first
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Speaker 1: time you could find anybody that had any interest besides
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Speaker 1: Jackson in astral projection and all these esoteric subjects. By now,
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Speaker 1: it's the summer of nineteen seventy, and it turns out
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Speaker 1: that Carter's parents owned a small cottage about fifteen miles
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Speaker 1: north of Toronto, outside of Toronto, in the small country
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Speaker 1: town of Rosedale. This is just a little tom and
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Speaker 1: in fact, Carter and Jackson and their friends would often
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Speaker 1: hitchhike up there to get away from the city and
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Speaker 1: listen to moody blues and hike in the surrounding woods
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Speaker 1: rest along the shore of Balsam Lake, which is this
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Speaker 1: really beautiful area. Usually there was four of them, Jackson, Carter,
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Speaker 1: Carter's cousin Dan, and their friend Sammy. Again those are pseudonyms,
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Speaker 1: but all four of these young men who are very
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Speaker 1: ancient in OBEs, life after death, UFO's consciousness, astronomy, spirituality
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Speaker 1: and all these kinds of things. And Carter and Jackson
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Speaker 1: decided that this would be the ideal place to meet
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Speaker 1: with Peter. So Jackson called Peter up and Peter agreed.
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Speaker 1: So on that one morning they all gathered at Dan's
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Speaker 1: house waiting for Peter to arrive, and everyone's asking, well,
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Speaker 1: what are we looking for? What does he look like?
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Speaker 1: What kind of car does he drive? And Jackson explained, well,
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Speaker 1: he's really fat, his shirt hair, he's kind of bald
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Speaker 1: on top. But I can't tell you what he's going
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Speaker 1: to drive because it's always a different car. And sure enough,
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Speaker 1: this car pulls up. It's a Volkswagon Beetle, and their
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Speaker 1: shirts him. They all go running out to meet him,
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Speaker 1: and there's a big guy in there, but he's got
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Speaker 1: this massive head of hair, and so as they approached him,
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Speaker 1: the boys were like, oh, shoot, sorry, we thought you
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Speaker 1: were someone else. And turns out it was him. He
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Speaker 1: comes out of the car and he's laughing and laughing,
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Speaker 1: and he reaches up and pulls off his wig and
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Speaker 1: it's him. It's Peter, this enormously obese man. So this
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Speaker 1: was another weird thing that happened. They all get in
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Speaker 1: the car and since Carter knows the way there, he
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Speaker 1: sits in the front seat and the other three boys
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Speaker 1: squeeze into the back and as they're driving along, Carter says,
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Speaker 1: and I'll just quote Carter directly. We're driving along and
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Speaker 1: there were these amazing biblical clouds, gorgeous and puffy, and
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Speaker 1: there's one cloud that had a perfectly square, rectangular hole
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Speaker 1: in it with blue sky behind, and I was like, wow,
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Speaker 1: holy crap, look at that. Can you guys see this?
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Speaker 1: And at this point Peter says something very strange. He
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Speaker 1: turns to Carter and says, Yeah, there's a door up there,
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Speaker 1: why don't you go through it? And Carter looked at
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Speaker 1: him in confusion, like what. Peter just laughed. He would
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Speaker 1: often laugh like this, as Carter says, so Peter didn't
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Speaker 1: know quite what he meant, but he tried to imagine
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Speaker 1: himself going through the door. Nothing happened, but there was
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Speaker 1: this weird sensation because, as Peter says, or rather as
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Speaker 1: Carter says in his own words, He's there driving and
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Speaker 1: it felt like he was turned and staring at me
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Speaker 1: with his full attention. It was so intense that I
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Speaker 1: would kind of glance over at him and he would
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Speaker 1: just be looking ahead driving. The sense of presence that
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Speaker 1: he could operate no matter what his body was doing
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Speaker 1: was new to me. I'd never experienced anybody like that before.
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Speaker 1: So at some point during the drive to the cabin,
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Speaker 1: the boys said that they needed to stop and pee.
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Speaker 1: They pulled over on the highway near this beautiful wooded
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Speaker 1: area where there was this huge grove of trees. This
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Speaker 1: is later going to be important, and all four boys
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Speaker 1: ran off into the woods, relieved themselves, piled back into
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Speaker 1: the car and continued on their way. They drove up
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Speaker 1: to the cottage and the plan was for Peter to
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Speaker 1: stay there with him with them, and he did. He
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Speaker 1: stayed for the day and they got to know Peter.
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Speaker 1: Peter explained that again he worked as a truck driver,
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Speaker 1: but that he was really on earth as a guide,
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Speaker 1: and the boys asked him all kinds of questions. Carter,
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Speaker 1: of course, asked him about UFOs, and Peter said that, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he worked with the ets. As Carter says, he made
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Speaker 1: references to actually working on UFOs, almost like they were freighters,
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Speaker 1: and he was hired on to transport stuff, which I
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Speaker 1: thought was interesting. I never really thought of them like that,
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Speaker 1: But he implied that he could contact them. Of course,
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Speaker 1: Peter also talked about calling the wind. He took them
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Speaker 1: outside and demonstrated it. As Carter says, he had some
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Speaker 1: kind of connection with the wind. He could just conjure
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Speaker 1: up the wind. It was the most amazing thing. So
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Speaker 1: Peter also noticed that Carter had the tendency to answer
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Speaker 1: their questions before they could actually ask them, and instead
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Speaker 1: of being freaked out by this, Carter found it to
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Speaker 1: be actually comfortable and natural, and they talked about all
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Speaker 1: kinds of subjects, and at one point, Peter said something
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Speaker 1: very strange. He said that he no longer ate food,
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Speaker 1: that he had long ago given up eating food, and
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Speaker 1: this was really confusing to the boys, and Peter just said, basically, well,
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Speaker 1: what do you guys think food is? And the boys
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Speaker 1: had no answer for this, and Peter said, well, it's sunlight.
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Speaker 1: It's just transformed sunlight, and there are ways you can
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Speaker 1: extract energy directly from the sun, and that's what I do.
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Speaker 1: It just works for me. It's an easier way for
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Speaker 1: me to exist. So Carter couldn't believe this, and he's
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Speaker 1: looking at Peter's enormous overhanging belly. I mean, the guy
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Speaker 1: was obese, and Carter nearly burst out laughing, and finally
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Speaker 1: he just said, then, why are you so fat? Peter
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Speaker 1: thought this was the funniest thing. All four of the
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Speaker 1: boys started howling with laughter. And Peter laughed with them,
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Speaker 1: but then suddenly became sober and serious and said, well,
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Speaker 1: I do this because I'm a walking billboard. When I
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Speaker 1: walk down Young Street in Toronto, people can't help but
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Speaker 1: notice me. In a split second of eye contact, I
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Speaker 1: can tell if they're ready for guidance. So yeah, he's
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Speaker 1: apparently some sort of spiric eyed and he told Peter
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Speaker 1: or Peter told Carter and the other kids, I am
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Speaker 1: quite excited to meet you four kids. You guys are
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Speaker 1: just amazing. You're only fifteen and you've been into this
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Speaker 1: stuff for a couple of years already. I'm really impressed.
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Speaker 1: It's really refreshing to meet young people who are just
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Speaker 1: so open to this stuff. So this was a transformational
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Speaker 1: evening for Carter. At one point, he decided to just
21:04
Speaker 1: go outside and lay in the grass and meditate, and
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Speaker 1: he says he was just lying there thinking of a
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Speaker 1: question and thought in his mind, Peter, I have a
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Speaker 1: question for you. Well, apparently at that moment Peter was
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Speaker 1: inside with the guys. He stopped what he was doing
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Speaker 1: and said, hang on a second, Carter wants to ask
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Speaker 1: me something. And next thing you know, he squatted down
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Speaker 1: beside Carter and says, okay, what's up. And Carter again
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Speaker 1: said that felt completely normal that this man could read
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Speaker 1: his mind. Finally, Carter did ask Peter about how to
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Speaker 1: go out of body, how to astral project Peter just
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Speaker 1: kind of laughed and rolled his eyes and said as
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Speaker 1: if learning how to do astral projection was a lower
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Speaker 1: spiritual practice to the other things he was trying to
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Speaker 1: teach them, but said, okay, I'll show you what I can.
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Speaker 1: They went outside and laid down in the grass. Peter
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Speaker 1: told him to pick a star and just focus on it,
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Speaker 1: and Carter walked about thirty feet away, lay down and
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Speaker 1: picked a star and looked at it, and the next
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Speaker 1: thing he knows, he's waking up. He had fallen asleep apparently,
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Speaker 1: and he jumped up and had this incredible sense of
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Speaker 1: love and gratitude and just felt this incredible affection for Peter,
22:30
Speaker 1: like he's some sort of spiritual master of some kind.
22:34
Speaker 1: They went back inside and turned out fifteen minutes had
22:37
Speaker 1: gone by, and Carter does not remember that, as Carter says, Honestly,
22:43
Speaker 1: my experience was we went out, I lay down, I
22:46
Speaker 1: looked at the stars, I blinked. We got up and
22:50
Speaker 1: I came in. That's what I experienced in terms of
22:52
Speaker 1: the time, So I had missing time here. I don't
22:55
Speaker 1: know what happened, but something big, something just completely knocked
23:00
Speaker 1: me out. So at that point they all went to bed.
23:04
Speaker 1: Peter left the next morning and he promised to pick
23:07
Speaker 1: them up and drive them back to Toronto at the end
23:10
Speaker 1: of the week. And this is when some really interesting
23:16
Speaker 1: things began to happen. As Carter says, it was during
23:20
Speaker 1: that week when all the UFO stuff started showing up. Now,
23:26
Speaker 1: it was a day or two after Peter left. Carter
23:28
Speaker 1: was in the cottage alone. It was nighttime when Jackson
23:32
Speaker 1: and their friend Sammy came running into the cottage with
23:34
Speaker 1: an incredible story. They announced to Carter, we just saw
23:39
Speaker 1: a Martian And they explained that they were on the
23:43
Speaker 1: docks by the Highway thirty five bridge, which spends the
23:47
Speaker 1: Rosedale River leading to Balsam Lake. You can see it here,
23:51
Speaker 1: and as Carter says, they described it and it was
23:55
Speaker 1: exactly like what we think of today as a gray
23:59
Speaker 1: a little guy with a big head, big eyes, a
24:02
Speaker 1: skinny little body. And they saw it. They saw this thing,
24:06
Speaker 1: and we have never experienced anything like that before, so
24:09
Speaker 1: we were very excited. We all ran out to go
24:12
Speaker 1: see it, and there was nothing there. Of course, at
24:15
Speaker 1: that time there weren't really a whole lot of books
24:18
Speaker 1: on UFOs and really no descriptions of grays whatsoever. But
24:23
Speaker 1: Jackson and Sammy had gotten a good look at this figure.
24:25
Speaker 1: They could clearly see it was non human. It was
24:28
Speaker 1: not that far away, so all of them were super
24:31
Speaker 1: amazed by this strange synchronicity of talking with Peter about
24:36
Speaker 1: UFOs and aliens to have only a few days later
24:40
Speaker 1: one of these aliens show up, but events weren't over yet.
24:45
Speaker 1: It recently met another boy their age who also lived
24:48
Speaker 1: in Rosedale, and a day or two later they all
24:51
Speaker 1: walked over to his house to hang out and talk
24:54
Speaker 1: about their sighting of the quote Martian, and evening came.
24:59
Speaker 1: It was time to return turn to Carter's parents cottage,
25:03
Speaker 1: and the four of them were heading back in a group,
25:06
Speaker 1: but as they began to cross this same bridge, the
25:10
Speaker 1: Rosedale Bridge, Carter got ahead of the others. He was
25:14
Speaker 1: walking about fifty feet ahead and had almost reached the
25:18
Speaker 1: end of the bridge and looking down over the side
25:21
Speaker 1: at the parking lot which you can see here. He
25:24
Speaker 1: saw a short, thin, gray skinned being. Now this parking
25:29
Speaker 1: lot was pretty well lit, and this being was standing
25:32
Speaker 1: only about one hundred feet away, close enough for Cutter
25:36
Speaker 1: to see him clearly, and he knew instantly it was
25:39
Speaker 1: the Martian. I mean, it looked exactly like Jackson and
25:43
Speaker 1: Sammy had described, grayskin, a large hairlet's head, a skinny body,
25:48
Speaker 1: huge dark eyes. Cutter said he couldn't tell if it
25:51
Speaker 1: was wearing anything, but if it was, it had to
25:55
Speaker 1: be a skin tight suit without any markings on it.
25:59
Speaker 1: But what was most amazing to Carter was how this
26:02
Speaker 1: being reacted. And I'll just let Carter describe this because
26:06
Speaker 1: it's so interesting. As Carter says, I saw this little being.
26:12
Speaker 1: It looked like a little gray alien. And when I
26:14
Speaker 1: first saw it, my body reacted and I kind of jerked,
26:18
Speaker 1: and it mimicked me. And I saw what it did,
26:21
Speaker 1: and I kind of shook my head and looked at it,
26:23
Speaker 1: and it did the same thing. It was kind of
26:25
Speaker 1: playing with me. It was really playful. I had this
26:29
Speaker 1: whole little interaction with it. It was like mimicking me
26:32
Speaker 1: and bouncing around, kind of over exaggerating my movements. It
26:37
Speaker 1: was very playful. Was just standing there in this empty
26:40
Speaker 1: parking lot. It was completely visible, was easy to see
26:44
Speaker 1: it and all of its movements. The energy coming off
26:47
Speaker 1: this guy was so fun and playful, so Carter felt
26:51
Speaker 1: no fear. He said, the little gray almost seemed elf like,
26:55
Speaker 1: and he stared in awe and wonder and delight. Actually,
27:00
Speaker 1: the gray itself seemed to be equally entertained, and he
27:03
Speaker 1: watched it for about thirty seconds, and then it did
27:07
Speaker 1: something which absolutely amazed him. As Carter says, all of
27:12
Speaker 1: a sudden, it was like something overlapped in my mind
27:16
Speaker 1: and I couldn't see it anymore, and I knew, I
27:19
Speaker 1: just totally knew that it was still there, but it
27:23
Speaker 1: was somehow able to manipulate frequencies or my perception in
27:27
Speaker 1: some way that it could just kind of show up
27:30
Speaker 1: and disappear. But it wasn't disappearing, it wasn't gone. And
27:34
Speaker 1: all of this just happened so fast. So although Carter
27:39
Speaker 1: was sure this et was still there, he could not
27:42
Speaker 1: see it. And it was at that exact moment, of course,
27:45
Speaker 1: that Carter's friends showed up caught up with him. He
27:49
Speaker 1: told him what he had seen, and I said, well,
27:52
Speaker 1: that's exactly what we saw, and it was in the
27:55
Speaker 1: exact same place. The only difference was Jackson and Sammy
27:59
Speaker 1: had seen it from a different perspective on the docks.
28:04
Speaker 1: So they stayed for just a little while. It did
28:07
Speaker 1: not reveal itself again to et, so they went back
28:11
Speaker 1: to the cottage, and it wasn't until years later, when
28:15
Speaker 1: reports of Gray's surfaced in the popular media, that they
28:19
Speaker 1: realized their Martian was actually a Gray. So finally, at
28:24
Speaker 1: the end of the week, Peter arrived to take them home,
28:27
Speaker 1: and they were all full of questions for him. They
28:30
Speaker 1: stayed up all night and asked him all about all
28:35
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff, and Carter was just so excited to
28:38
Speaker 1: have finally met someone who could talk about this stuff.
28:42
Speaker 1: They told him what happened. He just smiled and laughed
28:45
Speaker 1: and kind of looked at them, he said, with this bemused,
28:49
Speaker 1: knowing expression, but wouldn't say much about it. So that
28:53
Speaker 1: was curious. Peter Ruggen, of course, showed up in a
28:56
Speaker 1: different car and took them home. The boys asked if
29:01
Speaker 1: they could see him again, and he agreed to meet
29:03
Speaker 1: them in a week or two, but alas it was
29:06
Speaker 1: not meant to be, because following this experience, Peter pretty
29:12
Speaker 1: much disappeared completely from their lives. As Carter says, he
29:17
Speaker 1: disappeared after that, he completely disappeared. And I have to
29:21
Speaker 1: say he left such an impression on me. I was
29:23
Speaker 1: heartbroken when he disappeared. There's a lot later on that
29:30
Speaker 1: I haven't mentioned about what I experienced in this guy's presence,
29:33
Speaker 1: But in short, was like when we'd look into his eyes,
29:36
Speaker 1: it was like looking and seeing someone that you had
29:39
Speaker 1: forgotten about, someone so dear and precious to you, like
29:42
Speaker 1: a great great great grandfather or something. It was just
29:46
Speaker 1: like this indescribable feeling of love and connection. It's hard
29:50
Speaker 1: to describe it. Now. All four boys felt the same way,
29:55
Speaker 1: like he was a long lost, lifelong friend, and all
29:59
Speaker 1: of them really experienced the pain of his loss and
30:02
Speaker 1: talked about him endlessly. Because there were so many strange
30:06
Speaker 1: things about him. They wondered if he was even human,
30:10
Speaker 1: Was he a guardian angel? Could he be an extraterrestrial?
30:13
Speaker 1: Was he an enlightened master? But he was so normal
30:17
Speaker 1: looking and he was so fat, So they did not
30:20
Speaker 1: know what to think about this guy. They did tell
30:24
Speaker 1: others about their sighting of the Martian. Most people did
30:28
Speaker 1: not believe them, some were interested. They did find one
30:31
Speaker 1: local kid who absolutely believed him. They had become friends
30:35
Speaker 1: with him, and he said that he lived on the
30:37
Speaker 1: other side of the bridge and had a long way
30:40
Speaker 1: to walk home, and one day he was walking past
30:42
Speaker 1: the field when a little silver disk popped up out
30:46
Speaker 1: of the tall grass and shot upwards. Was completely unexpected.
30:50
Speaker 1: Scared the hell out of him. But it was one
30:53
Speaker 1: month later after Peter had gone that they were back
30:57
Speaker 1: in Rosedale and it was a bright sunny day. He
31:00
Speaker 1: had traveled by boat to Grand Island, which is located
31:04
Speaker 1: on the center of Balsam Lake, and looking northwest towards Rosedale,
31:09
Speaker 1: about two miles away, hovering maybe six hundred feet in
31:16
Speaker 1: the sky or so maybe one thousand feet, was a gigantic, shiny,
31:23
Speaker 1: metallic golden disc, your classic flying saucer. Carter says. It
31:28
Speaker 1: was this incredibly bright, shining golden classic UFO right over Rosedale.
31:35
Speaker 1: We're across the lake looking at this thing, this ship.
31:38
Speaker 1: It looked like this beautiful burnished, polished gold and it
31:43
Speaker 1: just sat there perfectly still for about twenty minutes. So
31:48
Speaker 1: people were out there water skiing and doing all kinds
31:50
Speaker 1: of stuff. But Carter spent the whole time just watching
31:54
Speaker 1: this thing. Some people would come look at it for
31:57
Speaker 1: five minutes and then weirdly lose interest, and he looked
32:01
Speaker 1: away and suddenly it was gone. He did not see
32:04
Speaker 1: it leave, so he doesn't know if it faded away
32:06
Speaker 1: or darted off. It just suddenly wasn't there. So winter
32:12
Speaker 1: arrived and they started spending much more of their time
32:15
Speaker 1: back in Toronto. And one day Carter's cousin Dan was
32:20
Speaker 1: hanging out with some friends at a little burger joint
32:23
Speaker 1: on the outskirts of Toronto. This was in February, sitting
32:27
Speaker 1: in a booth, and he saw this car pull up
32:30
Speaker 1: into the parking lot. Outstepped several tough looking young men
32:35
Speaker 1: wearing sleeveless shirts, their hair all greased back, and then,
32:38
Speaker 1: to Dan's absolute shock, coming out of the same car
32:42
Speaker 1: was Peter. So Dan stared in absolute disbelief. He couldn't
32:46
Speaker 1: believe it. There was no mistaking it. This was Peter.
32:49
Speaker 1: He was very easy to recognize, but he couldn't believe
32:52
Speaker 1: that he was hanging out with these young thugs. It
32:55
Speaker 1: made no sense because Dan and Carter and these other guy, Sammy.
33:00
Speaker 1: We're all very studious, intelligent, spiritually minded young men. But
33:05
Speaker 1: these guys, according to Dan, were borderline criminals, or so
33:10
Speaker 1: they appeared to be. And he wondered why someone like Peter,
33:13
Speaker 1: who was so incredible, would be hanging out with these delinquents,
33:17
Speaker 1: but he was. And Peter and these young guys walked in,
33:21
Speaker 1: and this has been something very strange happened because Dan
33:24
Speaker 1: wanted to jump up and introduce himself and talk to Peter,
33:28
Speaker 1: but Peter turned and looked at him, and Dan discovered
33:31
Speaker 1: that he could not move. He was absolutely paralyzed, couldn't move,
33:35
Speaker 1: couldn't say a word. He really wanted to get up
33:38
Speaker 1: and say something, but for some reason, he just couldn't.
33:41
Speaker 1: He said it was if his entire nervous system had
33:44
Speaker 1: just shut down, and it stayed that way for the
33:48
Speaker 1: entire time Peter and these men were in there. They
33:51
Speaker 1: ordered some food, waited for it, and during this time
33:54
Speaker 1: Peter would occasionally glance over at Dan. But after about
33:57
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen minutes, they got their food, got back
34:01
Speaker 1: into the car and drove off, and once the car
34:03
Speaker 1: was actually out of sight, Dan could move, and I
34:07
Speaker 1: mean he was sitting at the table with his friends
34:09
Speaker 1: and none of them noticed anything, which was also weird.
34:13
Speaker 1: So Dan went straight home and called Carter and Sammy
34:18
Speaker 1: and Jackson about his Peter sighting, and everyone was amazed.
34:23
Speaker 1: Peter was still around, but unfortunately he never showed up again. However,
34:28
Speaker 1: at this point they decided to do some investigating. Jackson
34:32
Speaker 1: had met Peter at his basement apartment on the outskirts
34:36
Speaker 1: of Toronto, so he went there and there was no answer.
34:41
Speaker 1: So he went to the upstairs house and knocked on
34:43
Speaker 1: the door and a little old lady answered, and Jackson said,
34:46
Speaker 1: excuse me, ma'am, can you tell me where the guy
34:49
Speaker 1: is who lived downstairs? And she looked at him, absolutely
34:54
Speaker 1: bewildered and said, what are you talking about. Jackson said,
34:57
Speaker 1: you know the big guy, the big, huge guy who
34:59
Speaker 1: lived down there, and the woman said there was no
35:03
Speaker 1: such man. Jackson persisted, and she became angry. She said, listen,
35:07
Speaker 1: this is my home. I would know if someone was
35:09
Speaker 1: living down there, and no one like that has ever
35:13
Speaker 1: been here, so I don't even know how you can
35:16
Speaker 1: explain that. But Jackson is absolutely sure that this is
35:21
Speaker 1: where he had met with Peter. Done little psychic exercises
35:24
Speaker 1: like trying to make the ashtray disappear. So it made
35:28
Speaker 1: no sense. But again, nothing about Peter seemed to make sense,
35:33
Speaker 1: and they discovered another mystery. When Peter had first riven
35:38
Speaker 1: them to Carter's cottage in Rosedale, they had pulled off
35:43
Speaker 1: the road so the boys could relieve themselves, But now
35:46
Speaker 1: traveling the same route again, Carter could not find the
35:50
Speaker 1: location where they had stopped by this grove of trees,
35:54
Speaker 1: and it really baffled him, as Carter says, was literally
35:58
Speaker 1: between these two towns, maybe fifteen miles. I could never
36:02
Speaker 1: find it, and it was weird. It became a thing
36:05
Speaker 1: I became obsessed like afterwards, since after this guy came
36:10
Speaker 1: and went. But it was just I mean, it might
36:12
Speaker 1: seem like a small thing, but it was one of
36:15
Speaker 1: so many weird things about Peter that just left them
36:18
Speaker 1: all wondering what who was this guy? So, you know,
36:26
Speaker 1: Peter continued to affect them long after he had gone.
36:30
Speaker 1: What really baffled the most was Peter's ability to call
36:34
Speaker 1: the wind and made them look at the wind in
36:36
Speaker 1: a whole new way, because you know, Jackson had met
36:39
Speaker 1: Peter on five occasions while Carter and the others had
36:42
Speaker 1: only met him twice, but completely changed their lives. As
36:47
Speaker 1: Carter says, for years afterwards, I'd be sitting up at
36:50
Speaker 1: the cottage or anywhere and I'd hear a wind blowing by.
36:54
Speaker 1: I'd go out and feel it. We would call them
36:56
Speaker 1: Peter winds. And when I would feel it, it was
36:59
Speaker 1: like a call. It was like, no matter what I
37:01
Speaker 1: was doing, I would just take off boom and follow
37:04
Speaker 1: my intuition. And this would lead to some really interesting
37:08
Speaker 1: synchronicities and all kinds of psychic experiences, And Carter says,
37:14
Speaker 1: that's why I was so broken when he disappeared. But
37:19
Speaker 1: he still had a connection Carter did with Peter. He'd
37:23
Speaker 1: be trying to leave his body and suddenly he could
37:26
Speaker 1: feel Peter's presence. Unfortunately, Carter never did succeed in astral projection,
37:35
Speaker 1: but he did have these interesting telepathic communications with Peter
37:41
Speaker 1: for a long time afterwards. As he says, suddenly I
37:45
Speaker 1: would connect and he'd be there communicating to me. And
37:49
Speaker 1: one time, it was about two weeks after Peter left,
37:55
Speaker 1: Carter got this communication from him that he was going
37:59
Speaker 1: to die at the end of the week, that it
38:01
Speaker 1: was his time to go back to his spiritual home.
38:05
Speaker 1: And while this may sound tragic and scary, Carter was
38:10
Speaker 1: actually excited because he believed in life after death, and
38:14
Speaker 1: it left him in a bit of a quandary. He knew
38:16
Speaker 1: he was going to miss his family, but some part
38:18
Speaker 1: of him was really excited about all of this. And
38:22
Speaker 1: Friday arrived and there was a celebration going on in
38:27
Speaker 1: downtown Toronto, and Carter says he was just overcome with
38:34
Speaker 1: this feeling of absolute oneness and love and empathy with
38:39
Speaker 1: everyone all around him. He said it was almost to
38:42
Speaker 1: the point where he was drunk that he could barely walk.
38:45
Speaker 1: He was just completely blissed out. He said, I just
38:50
Speaker 1: felt like I was dissolving in love, this universal love,
38:54
Speaker 1: and the feeling persisted all day. And the day ended
38:58
Speaker 1: and Carter was still alive. He was strangely slightly disappointed,
39:02
Speaker 1: but at the same time, he knew something really profound
39:05
Speaker 1: had happened to him, As he says, I felt different,
39:10
Speaker 1: but I couldn't really put my finger on it. Later,
39:13
Speaker 1: he read about Walkins and wondered if he had experienced
39:16
Speaker 1: some kind of soul exchange or something like maybe part
39:19
Speaker 1: of him did Dine another part came in. He doesn't know,
39:23
Speaker 1: but all he knows is quote it all happened in
39:26
Speaker 1: this extreme field of love. So time went on years past,
39:32
Speaker 1: Carter grew up. He left Toronto, traveled all over the
39:36
Speaker 1: world and often thought about Peter. As he says, it
39:41
Speaker 1: affected me for years and years. Honestly, I was just
39:45
Speaker 1: always calling to him telepathically to come back, come back.
39:50
Speaker 1: He hitchhiked all over the world, across Europe, North Africa,
39:56
Speaker 1: always hoping to see Peter again. He never did, but
40:00
Speaker 1: he became a spiritual seeker. He came upon the works
40:03
Speaker 1: of Gerd Jeff and Uspensky and just ate it up.
40:08
Speaker 1: But I mean, there are all kinds of goos out
40:10
Speaker 1: there in Vancouver where he lived, all these people trying
40:14
Speaker 1: to be spiritual, and as Carter says, I checked out
40:18
Speaker 1: a lot of them, and none of them held a
40:21
Speaker 1: candle to the presence of the truck driver. So years
40:27
Speaker 1: later Carter again decided to travel. He moved to Hawaii.
40:31
Speaker 1: He loved the weather there and the wilderness. He moved
40:34
Speaker 1: off grid, like many contactees do, built this little cabin
40:39
Speaker 1: with no electricity or running water, but it wasn't really comfortable.
40:42
Speaker 1: He met a beautiful woman. They fell in love, got married,
40:46
Speaker 1: and we're very happy in this tiny off grid house.
40:50
Speaker 1: And one night, in the middle of the night, they
40:54
Speaker 1: woke up to go to the bathroom, and as they
40:57
Speaker 1: were climbing down the ladder from the loft, the whole
41:01
Speaker 1: house filled up with bright light, like floodlights, blazing into
41:04
Speaker 1: the windows, which wasn't possible because this was out in
41:07
Speaker 1: the wilderness there were no roads. And they relieved themselves
41:12
Speaker 1: and were climbing back into the house when again it
41:14
Speaker 1: blazed with brilliant light, so they knew something was happening.
41:19
Speaker 1: And he asked his wife if she had any weird
41:23
Speaker 1: dreams prior to waking up right before this happened, and
41:25
Speaker 1: she said, well, actually, yeah, I dreamt I was on
41:29
Speaker 1: a ship or something like this strange airplane and there
41:32
Speaker 1: was this strange little man there eating ice cream. And
41:37
Speaker 1: Carter wondered about that, but he decided to meditate and
41:43
Speaker 1: see if he could recall anything, and he did. As
41:46
Speaker 1: he says, I'll just quote him directly, This whole thing
41:50
Speaker 1: just unfolded in my head. I was like almost a
41:53
Speaker 1: specialist kind of pilot, and I my consciousness had been
41:58
Speaker 1: put into this UFOFE of machine my consciousness. And this
42:03
Speaker 1: machine was so sophisticated. It was like a living nervous
42:06
Speaker 1: system that needs a living consciousness to operate it just
42:10
Speaker 1: like our physical body. I was test piloting some kind
42:14
Speaker 1: of new system. It was like I was immersed in it.
42:17
Speaker 1: I was inside. I was the consciousness living inside the
42:21
Speaker 1: living wiring of this thing. And it was very complex,
42:25
Speaker 1: as complex as a body. It was like that it
42:29
Speaker 1: was all golden, like everything was made of gold filaments.
42:33
Speaker 1: Everything was golden and clean and super precise, and yet living.
42:38
Speaker 1: It had a living dynamic to it. It was super
42:41
Speaker 1: responsive to your consciousness whatever I was thinking. So, Peter,
42:47
Speaker 1: I mean, Carter recalled all this and he said it
42:49
Speaker 1: felt almost as like he was being trained how to
42:51
Speaker 1: pilot a UFO, which is certainly something I've heard many
42:56
Speaker 1: times from other contactees. And this was when their house
43:01
Speaker 1: suddenly filled up with light. And the next morning they
43:05
Speaker 1: woke up to another strange mystery. They both had this
43:09
Speaker 1: hard little bump on their arm in the same place
43:13
Speaker 1: Carter had on his left arm his wife had on
43:16
Speaker 1: her right arm, and as Carter says, I assumed it
43:20
Speaker 1: was some kind of implant they kind of concerned him.
43:25
Speaker 1: At the time, his wife was pregnant with their first child,
43:29
Speaker 1: so he had some concerns about this. He wondered if
43:33
Speaker 1: perhaps this was missing time and onboard experience, it certainly
43:37
Speaker 1: sound sounds like it. He did try to cut this
43:42
Speaker 1: implant out of his arm, but he never was able
43:45
Speaker 1: to do it at any rate. They decided that they
43:49
Speaker 1: would move back to the mainland because the house where
43:54
Speaker 1: they lived off grade was not really well suited to
43:57
Speaker 1: raise a child, and ended up moving to the small
44:01
Speaker 1: city of Auburn, California, a tiny, quaint little town, and
44:07
Speaker 1: he continued to see UFOs. He says, and I quote,
44:11
Speaker 1: I see those quite a lot. Actually, I don't know
44:14
Speaker 1: what they are, but that's a pretty common thing. I've
44:17
Speaker 1: seen lots of stuff like that, little things going on
44:21
Speaker 1: in the sky. So that is Carter's story. He's now
44:26
Speaker 1: in his late sixties, he's enjoying his retirement. He never
44:30
Speaker 1: thought he would talk about this. A couple of his
44:33
Speaker 1: friends have passed on, who are there. One is still living,
44:36
Speaker 1: but he doesn't really remember a whole lot about it,
44:39
Speaker 1: other than that Peter was a real person. And when
44:43
Speaker 1: Carter started to hear Gray's being portrayed as quote dark, evil,
44:47
Speaker 1: little bastard. He was very puzzled because that was not
44:51
Speaker 1: his experience at all. Either way, he feels certain that
44:56
Speaker 1: the UFO phenomenon and ET contact has a very strong
45:00
Speaker 1: spiritual component, and he's very optimistic about it and the
45:05
Speaker 1: state of the world. As he says in his own words,
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Speaker 1: I feel hopeful. I know the world looks pretty messed
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Speaker 1: up right now, but I still feel hopeful the glimpse
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Speaker 1: of beauty that I saw back then, I feel like
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Speaker 1: we're getting there. I really do. I feel like one
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Speaker 1: day humankind is going to find its true kindness. And
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Speaker 1: that is the story of Peter and the UFOs in
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Speaker 1: the experiences of Carter Wells, and as you can see,
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Speaker 1: it affected him profoundly throughout his life, but especially after
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Speaker 1: age thirteen and meeting this gentleman Peter. Frankly, I think
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Speaker 1: Peter is probably an ET himself. Really do the angel
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Speaker 1: perhaps certainly an enlightened person of some kind, and such
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Speaker 1: a shame that Carter never met him again, but it
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Speaker 1: certainly thinks about him on a pretty much daily basis.
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Speaker 1: And I think you can understand why considering that amazing
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Speaker 1: experience he had with him. I mean, wow, who was
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Speaker 1: this guy? I mean, such an interesting story, all the
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Speaker 1: way from the psychic aspects to Peter's claims to how
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Speaker 1: he could apparently control the wind, said he didn't need food,
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Speaker 1: and yet here he is enormously obese. There's a lot
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Speaker 1: of really interesting things. I think we can learn from
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Speaker 1: this particular UFO contact story because it is so different
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Speaker 1: from others. In fact, when I was interviewing Carter, he
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Speaker 1: asked me, do you want to hear the whole story,
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Speaker 1: the spiritual sides, the high strangeness, And I said absolutely yes.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly why I want to talk to you, because
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Speaker 1: there is a lot more than to UFO contact than
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Speaker 1: just being taken on board and physically examined. I think
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Speaker 1: that's a total misconception. Et contact is far more profound
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Speaker 1: and spiritual then just that. I think this case really
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Speaker 1: shows that in a remarkable way, and that's why I
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Speaker 1: wanted to share it with you today. Again, it was
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Speaker 1: taken from my book Humanoids in High Strangeness. I left
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Speaker 1: some parts out, so if you want to know the
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Speaker 1: whole story, you'll have to check out the book. But
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Speaker 1: it's just one of many, many, really interesting cases involving
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Speaker 1: humanoids and high strangeness that are in the book, but
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Speaker 1: again certainly one of my favorite chapters because it is
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Speaker 1: so unusual. I like it because there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: evidence to it as well, with multiple witnesses and physiological
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Speaker 1: effects and spiritual and psychic effects and multiple UFO sightings
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Speaker 1: and missing time and implants and just so much to it.
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Speaker 1: So that's it for today. I hope you've enjoyed this episode.
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Speaker 1: I truly thank you once again for watching. I really
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Speaker 1: appreciate it a lot. It's because of you guys that
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Speaker 1: I do this show, So thank you, And until next time,
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Speaker 1: I'll just do my typical sign off. Keep asking those
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Speaker 1: hard questions, keep searching for the truth. Most important of all,
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Speaker 1: keep having fun. I know I am. Hope you are too.
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Speaker 1: Bye for now,