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- 0:02Speaker 1: On Scorne US Australia. This is the winder Panalty Show.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panalty Show. Coming
- 0:11Speaker 2: up tonight. Shane Bourne's son Jackson blames the government and
- 0:15Speaker 2: the COVID shot for his father's untimely death.
- 0:18Speaker 3: I'll get my panel's reaction to that.
- 0:20Speaker 2: In the day's other top headlines, the scandal around the
- 0:23Speaker 2: manner in which.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Ben Robert Smith was arrested continues.
- 0:26Speaker 2: I'll speak to Counselor Steve Christu, who has demanded answers
- 0:30Speaker 2: from the Attorney General.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Kosher Gator will have the latest from.
- 0:34Speaker 2: The US, including two high profile resignations due to sexual
- 0:38Speaker 2: misconduct allegations. And you may want to shut your eyes
- 0:42Speaker 2: and ears for our segment with Alex Stein. Will get
- 0:45Speaker 2: his reaction to Lizzo's performance at Coachella and Left is Losing.
- 0:51Speaker 2: It features a white man taking a stand against racism
- 0:56Speaker 2: by assaulting a brown woman. But First Liberal leader Angus
- 1:11Speaker 2: Taylor has attacked the Albanezy government for opening the daughter
- 1:15Speaker 2: migrants and visa holders who reject Australia's call values. The
- 1:19Speaker 2: opposition leader spoke at the Menzies Research Center in Sydney
- 1:23Speaker 2: today where he unveiled the first phase of the coalition's
- 1:26Speaker 2: immigration policy. That coalition has promised to deport overstayers abusing
- 1:31Speaker 2: the legal system, restore temporary protection visas, and weed out
- 1:35Speaker 2: foreign agents pretending to be students and migrant workers. He
- 1:40Speaker 2: called out the government for turning a blind eye to
- 1:43Speaker 2: the reality of immigration and integration.
- 1:47Speaker 4: Those who migrate from liberal democracies have a greater likelihood
- 1:51Speaker 4: of subscribing to Australian values compared to those coming from
- 1:55Speaker 4: other places ruled by fundamentalists, extremists and dictators. Our door
- 2:00Speaker 4: has been open to people who, far from having an
- 2:02Speaker 4: allegiance to Australia, actively working against our nation. People intimidating
- 2:09Speaker 4: migrant communities, people trying to undermine our democracy, people sowing
- 2:16Speaker 4: social discord. All this stems from an immigration system where
- 2:21Speaker 4: standards have erated.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Joining me now is News Corps senior writer Patrick Carline
- 2:28Speaker 2: and Sky News contributor d D.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Dunlevy. Patrick, I'll start with you.
- 2:32Speaker 2: The Coalition has clearly worked out immigration is a big
- 2:36Speaker 2: issue and a big driver of support for one nation.
- 2:39Speaker 3: What do you make of those proposed measures?
- 2:43Speaker 5: Look, I think the big thing is it's going to
- 2:45Speaker 5: resonate with people who have gone to the right in
- 2:47Speaker 5: the past few months, mostly men of about my age,
- 2:50Speaker 5: who have got frustrated with the immigration system and the
- 2:55Speaker 5: settings of it and in the way it's been allowed
- 2:57Speaker 5: to drift. And I think you've got to point a
- 2:59Speaker 5: different now in what Angus Taylor is saying that separates
- 3:03Speaker 5: Labor and liberal And I think that's really important because
- 3:05Speaker 5: it's a conversation that a lot of people on the
- 3:08Speaker 5: left don't want to be having. I mean, it's sort
- 3:10Speaker 5: of almost been a taboom subject immigration for so long.
- 3:14Speaker 5: Now you have a set of points that are separate
- 3:17Speaker 5: to the Labor Party and we can actually try and
- 3:19Speaker 5: have a conversation about it because we need to be cannid.
- 3:22Speaker 5: A lot of these fears well found across.
- 3:26Speaker 1: To the nation.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Well, is the point of difference enough because we don't
- 3:31Speaker 2: have a number and the thing that's what people are
- 3:34Speaker 2: looking for. Are you going to propose a immigration number
- 3:38Speaker 2: that is dramatically different to what Labor is proposing? Otherwise
- 3:42Speaker 2: it's all retric.
- 3:43Speaker 6: And we likely won't see that number until closer to
- 3:46Speaker 6: the election in twenty twenty eight. And I do think
- 3:50Speaker 6: that Angus Taylor is probably going to be accused of
- 3:53Speaker 6: being Donald Trump light with this policy, but I do
- 3:57Speaker 6: think that it's also going to hit right at the
- 3:59Speaker 6: heart of what matters most to people, and this is
- 4:01Speaker 6: why we've seen the rise and the popularity of one nation.
- 4:06Speaker 6: I actually think it's a vote winning policy if they
- 4:08Speaker 6: can carry it through in the most important part of
- 4:10Speaker 6: it to me is going to be the screening. There's
- 4:14Speaker 6: no point in having these people come into the country
- 4:16Speaker 6: and then canceling their visas. I think we've got sixty
- 4:19Speaker 6: five thousand people in the country at the moment on
- 4:21Speaker 6: you canceled visas. We need to be able to stop
- 4:24Speaker 6: them and to sort out who's a bad character.
- 4:27Speaker 7: Not let them in the first place.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Yeah, because once they're in the legal system, that could
- 4:31Speaker 2: take a long time and it's a very costly process.
- 4:36Speaker 2: We're still not having really the full debate. We're now
- 4:39Speaker 2: finally talking about values, Patrick, but elsewhere in the world
- 4:43Speaker 2: they're talking about Okay, we've got different migrant groups from
- 4:47Speaker 2: different areas, what is the net gain to the country.
- 4:50Speaker 2: There's ones who almost immediately contribute pay taxes, and then
- 4:56Speaker 2: there's migrant groups who are net takers. Where you've got
- 5:00Speaker 2: that massive portion of them on welfare. Even after five years,
- 5:03Speaker 2: after ten years, I think we're still a long way
- 5:06Speaker 2: from having those sort of honest discussions in this country.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 5:10Speaker 5: Look, I think part of it is the fact we
- 5:11Speaker 5: are proud of our migrant history. We had waves of
- 5:14Speaker 5: migrants coming through after World War Two who succeeded, who
- 5:18Speaker 5: wanted to do well, who wanted to actually make Australia better.
- 5:21Speaker 5: Now you have certain migrant groups who don't do that.
- 5:24Speaker 5: They don't subscribe to Australian values, they don't believe in
- 5:29Speaker 5: free speech, they don't believe that men and women are equal,
- 5:33Speaker 5: and it contradicts what Australia is about. And I think
- 5:36Speaker 5: you're right, we need to actually be looking at that
- 5:38Speaker 5: and saying, are these a kind of people that we
- 5:41Speaker 5: should be allowing in their our country.
- 5:42Speaker 6: Can I just add something to what Patrick said, and
- 5:44Speaker 6: that is that a lot of these people are coming
- 5:46Speaker 6: here from countries where they have no respect for authority,
- 5:50Speaker 6: for the rule of law, and I think that the
- 5:53Speaker 6: same applies here. And this is why we're seeing these
- 5:55Speaker 6: repeat offenders, because they just don't care about what police
- 5:58Speaker 6: say and about being locked up.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to come here with a eagerness to assimilate. Now,
- 6:04Speaker 2: Susan Coyle was announced as Australia's new Army Chief, becoming
- 6:08Speaker 2: the first woman to hold that position. Lieutenant General Coyle
- 6:12Speaker 2: is currently the Chief Joint Chief of Joint Capabilities, but
- 6:16Speaker 2: she also holds the title as one of the Defense
- 6:18Speaker 2: Forces Indigenous Champions, and she's already been criticized online for
- 6:24Speaker 2: what some consider activism. This video I'm about to play
- 6:29Speaker 2: you happened last month at a government event.
- 6:32Speaker 8: May also begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of the
- 6:35Speaker 8: lands on which we meet tonight, the Gatigal people of
- 6:37Speaker 8: the or nation, and pay my respects to elders past present.
- 6:41Speaker 8: I also extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Terres
- 6:45Speaker 8: Strait Islander people who have contributed to the defense of
- 6:48Speaker 8: Australia in times of peace and war. I am proudly
- 6:52Speaker 8: one of the two Defense Indigenous Champions.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always lengthy, Patrick. Is the criticism unfair?
- 7:00Speaker 3: After all?
- 7:01Speaker 2: Isn't she almost obliged to perform that sort of bit
- 7:06Speaker 2: of virtue signaling.
- 7:07Speaker 3: It's just become the norm now.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the goalposts have started to shift, haven't they.
- 7:11Speaker 5: Like in the last say, six months where that sort
- 7:14Speaker 5: of acknowledgment people do sort of openly say, hang on
- 7:18Speaker 5: this necessarily, this is not the core function of why
- 7:21Speaker 5: you're here.
- 7:22Speaker 1: She sounds very.
- 7:23Speaker 5: Well qualified, especially in cyber and information technology, which are
- 7:28Speaker 5: major increasing sort of elements of modern wars. And I
- 7:32Speaker 5: think it's to be fair, let's wait and see how
- 7:35Speaker 5: she goes.
- 7:35Speaker 1: She is very well qualified.
- 7:37Speaker 5: I don't think Indigenous champion is going to be an
- 7:39Speaker 5: important part of her role.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Well, she did make a point there of thanking Indigenous
- 7:45Speaker 2: servicemen and.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Women, and they're good stories.
- 7:47Speaker 2: But I would have thought once you put on the uniform,
- 7:51Speaker 2: your ethnicity goes out the window.
- 7:53Speaker 3: It shouldn't.
- 7:54Speaker 2: It shouldn't matter at any time, but particularly when you
- 7:56Speaker 2: are serving your country. And what about all the non
- 8:00Speaker 2: indigenous people who have served. She didn't reserve a special
- 8:02Speaker 2: thanks for them, just one small group.
- 8:06Speaker 6: Yeah, her appointment was virtue signaling from the moment it
- 8:09Speaker 6: was announced.
- 8:09Speaker 7: And I don't want to take away from the fact.
- 8:11Speaker 6: Is Patrick quite well, He points out, she appears to
- 8:14Speaker 6: be very highly qualified for it. But the first thing
- 8:16Speaker 6: that they had to tell us about it.
- 8:18Speaker 7: Was that she's a woman. Yeah, but we can.
- 8:20Speaker 6: See that that doesn't matter if there's a war on.
- 8:22Speaker 6: I just want someone big and strong who knows what
- 8:24Speaker 6: they're doing defending our country. I don't care what gender
- 8:27Speaker 6: they are or what they're indigenous, whatever it is, she's
- 8:31Speaker 6: tried to achieve their.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Absolutely if you would think at that level it's all
- 8:36Speaker 2: about meritocracy. But yeah, who knows. Ah well, Patrick, good idea.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Let's give her a chance and see what we hear
- 8:43Speaker 2: from her now. The son of the late Great Shane
- 8:47Speaker 2: warn has spoken out about his father's death. Jackson Warne
- 8:50Speaker 2: said he believes the COVID vaccinations and the boosters his
- 8:54Speaker 2: father received played a part in his father's death. Have
- 8:58Speaker 2: a listen, do you think that the COVID shot killed
- 9:01Speaker 2: your dad?
- 9:02Speaker 9: I definitely think it was involved. And I don't even
- 9:05Speaker 9: think it's saying that is controversial anymore, Like with the
- 9:08Speaker 9: amount of data that's come out, Like even if dad
- 9:12Speaker 9: had underlying health issues, I think this brought it straight
- 9:15Speaker 9: to the surface. And that's one thing that I've always
- 9:18Speaker 9: been like, that's one thing I've always struggled with because
- 9:21Speaker 9: my first impression, as soon as I hung up the phone,
- 9:24Speaker 9: I instantly blamed the government. I instantly blamed COVID and
- 9:28Speaker 9: the vaccine and doing things like the State Memorial where
- 9:31Speaker 9: that's funded by vic governor. It's the MCG and there
- 9:34Speaker 9: has to be certain due diligence, and people's in the
- 9:36Speaker 9: crowds have to get photos and do all that stuff.
- 9:39Speaker 9: I felt really uncomfortable, and at the State Memorial I
- 9:42Speaker 9: nearly actually said I blame the governments, I blame COVID,
- 9:45Speaker 9: but I didn't, and it's probably smart I didn't.
- 9:50Speaker 2: Now I'm obliged here to say that there is no
- 9:53Speaker 2: conclusive evidence linking COVID vaccines to Shane Warne's heart attack.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Now did Jackson?
- 9:59Speaker 2: Morn I went on to explain that his dad didn't
- 10:02Speaker 2: want to have all these boosters, but he was obliged to.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Back then, you had some employers that required their employees
- 10:10Speaker 2: to be up to date with their shots. What do
- 10:13Speaker 2: you make of that discussion? It was fascinating to watch,
- 10:17Speaker 2: and I think Jackson made a decision to finally speak
- 10:21Speaker 2: about this publicly, something he's talked about privately for a
- 10:24Speaker 2: long time.
- 10:24Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 10:25Speaker 6: Well, look, actually my first thought was that Shane will
- 10:28Speaker 6: would be so proud of Jackson because he's got the
- 10:30Speaker 6: story in the headlines and Jackson has said what he
- 10:32Speaker 6: mostly wants is to get that message across to look
- 10:35Speaker 6: after your heart health.
- 10:37Speaker 7: And here we are talking about it now.
- 10:39Speaker 6: But interesting when I heard what he said, I was
- 10:43Speaker 6: reminded of it was a couple of years ago. I
- 10:45Speaker 6: was getting my flu shot and I said to my chemist,
- 10:49Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm up to date for boosters.
- 10:50Speaker 6: I don't know if I need to, And he said
- 10:52Speaker 6: in Locke, he said, clearly, I'm not an anti vaxxer,
- 10:55Speaker 6: but I wouldn't suggest you have it. There's far too
- 10:57Speaker 6: much data out now on the ill of COVID and
- 11:02Speaker 6: the COVID vaccines. I beg your pardon, particularly on men
- 11:05Speaker 6: and younger men as well.
- 11:06Speaker 7: So I think i'd prefer to you.
- 11:07Speaker 2: I know it's semantics, but I prefer to call it
- 11:09Speaker 2: a shot rather than a vaccine because it doesn't operate
- 11:13Speaker 2: like a vaccine. A vaccine stops you catching something, it
- 11:16Speaker 2: stops you passing it on. A vaccine typically doesn't have
- 11:19Speaker 2: to have a boost ever since month, so I think
- 11:22Speaker 2: because I am pro vaccine to me, the whole scandal
- 11:26Speaker 2: with COVID shots has undermined the faith people have in vaccines,
- 11:32Speaker 2: and it's undermined faith in all vaccines when really this
- 11:36Speaker 2: is a.
- 11:37Speaker 3: Very particular product.
- 11:39Speaker 2: And Patrick, he did make the point there Jackson that
- 11:42Speaker 2: whilst this would have been wildly controversial to say back
- 11:47Speaker 2: there now it's not. We had the ABC to another
- 11:50Speaker 2: report just last week on vaccine injuries. It's something that's
- 11:54Speaker 2: talked about a lot more overseas than in this country.
- 11:57Speaker 3: But it's an important issue.
- 11:58Speaker 5: Look, it's difficult because there's very little conclusive evidence. I mean,
- 12:02Speaker 5: you have a study that finds COVID vaccines or shots
- 12:08Speaker 5: can lead to heart inflammation, but there's no clear link,
- 12:11Speaker 5: as you said in the intro, to COVID.
- 12:14Speaker 1: Shots and heart attacks.
- 12:15Speaker 5: And I feel so sorry for Jackson because his dad
- 12:18Speaker 5: is fifty two, Peak of health, a superstar. You shouldn't
- 12:24Speaker 5: be dying of a heart attack when you're fifty two.
- 12:26Speaker 5: And I think part of this is that Shane Warn
- 12:27Speaker 5: himself was opposed to having the haft the shots, but
- 12:30Speaker 5: submitted to it against his will. And as Jackson said,
- 12:36Speaker 5: we may never know what Actually I think.
- 12:38Speaker 2: We will as the years go on, because there's body
- 12:41Speaker 2: of research that's accumulating around and it all depends on
- 12:46Speaker 2: your age group and your different factors. It's quite complex. Now,
- 12:50Speaker 2: let's talk about the PM, who's not very complex. He
- 12:53Speaker 2: was grilled by Sunrise most nationally Bar over the government's
- 12:57Speaker 2: advertising campaign that's going to cost you twenty million dollars.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Listen to Anthony alberteazy try and defend this entire strategy.
- 13:07Speaker 10: So advertising campaim certainly for twenty mil.
- 13:11Speaker 11: Because we want because well, it goes to your network,
- 13:15Speaker 11: amongst others, Nat, which is about keeping the economy going
- 13:19Speaker 11: and giving people that direct information.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Did he It almost sounds like he's offering a bribe there,
- 13:29Speaker 2: telling her where this money is going. It's going to
- 13:31Speaker 2: be lining your pockets indirectly, Nat. So it makes me quiet.
- 13:35Speaker 3: I mean, you really come on?
- 13:36Speaker 2: I mean, Natalie bar must have been laughing yourself silly there.
- 13:40Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I'd love that she made the point, does
- 13:44Speaker 6: Anthony ALBINIZI know that social media is free, that you
- 13:47Speaker 6: can put stuff out and a lot of politicians are
- 13:49Speaker 6: doing it to great effect making their point that way.
- 13:52Speaker 6: It's just a dreadful waste of money. And where did
- 13:57Speaker 6: the twenty million go? I mean has it gone into
- 13:59Speaker 6: net pockets?
- 14:00Speaker 10: Open? In part of it?
- 14:03Speaker 2: Patrick, The advice in public information campaign is pretty patronizing,
- 14:10Speaker 2: isn't it.
- 14:11Speaker 3: I mean, really up your.
- 14:12Speaker 2: Tires maybe, you know, drive a bit less, take any
- 14:17Speaker 2: sort of what was heavy items out of your heart
- 14:19Speaker 2: what really probly children?
- 14:21Speaker 5: Yes, and it is a serious crisis and people are
- 14:24Speaker 5: genuinely worried. Pumping up with tires is not going to
- 14:26Speaker 5: make the slightest difference. We want to know when the
- 14:29Speaker 5: fuel is going to come. You know, I think we're
- 14:31Speaker 5: good until the end of May or something. Where's a
- 14:33Speaker 5: fuel coming in June and July? And to be fair,
- 14:36Speaker 5: the government can't have all the answers, but we want
- 14:39Speaker 5: to see the government actually making making that safer and
- 14:44Speaker 5: making that better so that we can actually sleep better
- 14:46Speaker 5: at night.
- 14:47Speaker 6: Look, the Prime Minister would have made a laughing stock
- 14:49Speaker 6: of himself or has done with that ad trading.
- 14:52Speaker 7: I'm married to a trade now.
- 14:53Speaker 6: He's not going to take his ladders and all the
- 14:55Speaker 6: mixes and stuff off of the van, and he's desperate
- 14:58Speaker 6: for diesel to keep his van moving so we can
- 14:59Speaker 6: get to building science to work. So rule out the
- 15:02Speaker 6: trades as anyone who's going to listen to that, and
- 15:05Speaker 6: everyone flicks through the ads anyway.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Absolutely, twenty million dollars it could have been better spent. Now,
- 15:10Speaker 2: before you two go, we have to talk about.
- 15:13Speaker 3: Harry and Meghans.
- 15:14Speaker 2: They're in town, guys, just around the corner in Melbourne
- 15:17Speaker 2: for the start of a four day commercial tour. Harry's
- 15:21Speaker 2: scheduled to speak at a mental health summit on Thursday,
- 15:25Speaker 2: as well as a November event with the Western Bulldogs.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Critics have labeled the troop a grubby attempt to cash
- 15:34Speaker 2: in on their royal status.
- 15:36Speaker 6: What do you think, Well, I think they're getting increasingly
- 15:38Speaker 6: desperate for money. I mean, they're really low with their colors,
- 15:41Speaker 6: haven't they doing the things that they're doing. I think
- 15:44Speaker 6: it also shows incredible ego from them that they think
- 15:47Speaker 6: of one of their visits is to the Royal Children's Hospital.
- 15:50Speaker 6: They missed the big fundraising appeal that might have been
- 15:52Speaker 6: able to help in some way. But do they honestly
- 15:55Speaker 6: think that breezing through for two seconds is going to
- 15:57Speaker 6: make a difference to anyone?
- 15:59Speaker 2: Absolutely wonderful picture opportunities, though, Patrick here that you will
- 16:04Speaker 2: be trailing the couple at some point, you are taking
- 16:09Speaker 2: one for the team world one there.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Yes, Look, they don't have the good will anymore, do they?
- 16:15Speaker 5: They lost it they came in twenty eighteen, they were
- 16:18Speaker 5: just married. They were the glamorous face of royalty and
- 16:22Speaker 5: now they're the non royals who bag the royals, who
- 16:26Speaker 5: act like victims and who are looking to monetize their status.
- 16:30Speaker 5: And Australians culturally a bit like British, I think, unlike
- 16:34Speaker 5: the US.
- 16:34Speaker 1: We don't like that.
- 16:35Speaker 2: We really just even the Americans are thinking of them, Patrick,
- 16:38Speaker 2: They're really they have to find a third home, I think,
- 16:42Speaker 2: Patrick Carline.
- 16:42Speaker 3: Did they done? Leevey, thank you so much for your time.
- 16:46Speaker 2: We spoke yesterday on the ongoing controversy surrounding the arrest
- 16:50Speaker 2: of Ben Roberts Smith, the most decorated Australian soldier alive
- 16:53Speaker 2: who could be spending Anzac Day behind bars on alleged
- 16:57Speaker 2: war crimes. One man who was being vocal on the
- 17:01Speaker 2: arrest is Cumberland City Councilor Steve Christu, who has written
- 17:05Speaker 2: to Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke and Attorney General Michelle
- 17:08Speaker 2: Rowland demanding answers as to why certain media outlets at
- 17:13Speaker 2: advanced knowledge of Robert Smith's arrest. Steve Christu joins me, Now, Steve,
- 17:19Speaker 2: tell me why you felt the need to write to
- 17:22Speaker 2: Tony Burke and Michelle Roland.
- 17:24Speaker 12: Well quite frankly, reader, what's happening to Ben Robert Smith
- 17:28Speaker 12: is a national disgrace. The way he was carried off
- 17:34Speaker 12: that plane, to say, escorted by the Federal Police in
- 17:37Speaker 12: public view, with a full pack of media waiting is
- 17:41Speaker 12: absolutely reprehensible and questions need to be asked. The Australian
- 17:45Speaker 12: public want questions asked on why mister Robert Smith wasn't
- 17:50Speaker 12: afforded the opportunity to be hand himself in in private
- 17:54Speaker 12: and you know these this whole process be done in
- 17:58Speaker 12: a dignified manner. It's already undergnified enough without having this
- 18:02Speaker 12: form of media circus happening around the whole situation.
- 18:07Speaker 2: What do you make of the suggestion it was in
- 18:09Speaker 2: the Sydney Morning Herald over the weekend that perhaps this
- 18:12Speaker 2: arrest occurred in Sydney as opposed to Queensland, where Ben
- 18:17Speaker 2: Robert Smith resides, because there is a possibility of having
- 18:22Speaker 2: a more diverse jury pool in Sydney than in Queensland.
- 18:28Speaker 2: This was suggested as a reason why this arrest occurred
- 18:32Speaker 2: in Sydney.
- 18:34Speaker 12: Yeah, look, in my opinion, and certainly you know, hundreds
- 18:38Speaker 12: of other people that have spoken to me about this
- 18:41Speaker 12: as well. You know, it would seem that this might
- 18:44Speaker 12: be a likely scenario, and if it is, it's very
- 18:47Speaker 12: disappointing and very sad that this country has come to
- 18:50Speaker 12: such a level to stoop to such a level, very
- 18:53Speaker 12: very disappointing, just lost for words, and we expect better
- 18:57Speaker 12: from our federal government agencies, not this kind of this
- 19:02Speaker 12: whole process is just disappointing. I've just lost for words,
- 19:04Speaker 12: to be honest, very disappointed for Ben Robertson.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Steve former Labor Defense Minister Joel Fitzgiven, has described his
- 19:11Speaker 2: entire saga as a tragedy. Tell me how you see
- 19:15Speaker 2: it beyond just the manner in which the arrest happened,
- 19:18Speaker 2: And are you getting much feedback from constituents where you are.
- 19:23Speaker 12: Yeah, Look, I'd go one step further and label the
- 19:27Speaker 12: whole saga and national embarrassment. It's a day of shame
- 19:31Speaker 12: for Australia. You know, no other country in the world
- 19:34Speaker 12: has spent three hundred million dollars pursuing their war veterans
- 19:39Speaker 12: and going overseas and putting people up in hotels allegedly
- 19:44Speaker 12: in trying to build a case against Ben Roberts Smith.
- 19:47Speaker 12: In contrast, the United States has spent three hundred million
- 19:51Speaker 12: dollars to save their two pilots and rescue them when
- 19:55Speaker 12: they were shot down. Over ran the last few days,
- 19:58Speaker 12: and the message I'm getting from my community, where a
- 20:01Speaker 12: great percentage of them are Afghan nationals, is that they're
- 20:06Speaker 12: very afraid of the Taliban. They don't know what's happening.
- 20:09Speaker 12: The realities are the Afghans living in Maryland's Granville and Guildford,
- 20:13Speaker 12: a community which I represent, fled and came to Australia
- 20:18Speaker 12: to flee from the Taliban because women were being abused.
- 20:22Speaker 12: They are being tortured, killed and raped, and they had
- 20:26Speaker 12: no rights in Afghanistan. And yet they can't work out
- 20:31Speaker 12: why our own soldiers are being pursued like this.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Now, what do you say to those who are critical
- 20:38Speaker 2: of your intervention here, saying you're a counselor you're in
- 20:42Speaker 2: local government and this isn't a local government issue.
- 20:46Speaker 12: Well that might be their limitations, but it definitely is
- 20:49Speaker 12: at mine. I'm an elected representative and I'm elected to
- 20:52Speaker 12: speak my voice and represent the community, and I'll continue
- 20:56Speaker 12: to do so. And those people are spooking. Actions are
- 21:01Speaker 12: the people that are probably against Ben Robert Smith and
- 21:04Speaker 12: the same people that would be crying and hiding behind
- 21:08Speaker 12: men like Ben Robert Smith if this country was ever
- 21:11Speaker 12: attacked and we had to go to war.
- 21:14Speaker 2: Now, what action do you think should be taken If
- 21:17Speaker 2: it can be established that government authority, someone within the
- 21:21Speaker 2: AFP tipped off the media about this arrest.
- 21:25Speaker 12: Look, if that allegation can be proven, well somebody needs
- 21:29Speaker 12: to be held to account and somebody definitely needs to
- 21:32Speaker 12: lose their job. You just can't have this kind of
- 21:34Speaker 12: behavior coming from government agencies and authorities where you know,
- 21:40Speaker 12: people might be denied natural justice and humiliated like this.
- 21:44Speaker 12: What happened to innocent and to a proven guilty and
- 21:49Speaker 12: being given a fair go? Already the process, in my opinion,
- 21:53Speaker 12: has been tainted because this has been streamed to millions
- 21:56Speaker 12: of Australians And I'm very concerned earned about what kind
- 22:01Speaker 12: of fair hearing will Ben Roberts Smith receive where from
- 22:05Speaker 12: potential jury members when they've already been tainted by this footage.
- 22:11Speaker 3: Well it's not just the footage.
- 22:13Speaker 2: We've had just years of coverage on this issue, haven't we.
- 22:16Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, it's going to be difficult to
- 22:18Speaker 2: find people who don't have preconceived views about this case.
- 22:23Speaker 3: Steve Christ You thank you so much for your time tonight.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Delta Khama left he is losing ed PASTI laters from
- 22:30Speaker 2: the US, including two high profile resignations due to sexual
- 22:35Speaker 2: misconduct allegations.
- 22:37Speaker 3: Kosher Gator is up next.
- 22:49Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Panehy Show, and it's time for
- 22:52Speaker 2: Lefty's losing d Start with veteran Democrat strategist James Carvill.
- 22:58Speaker 2: He's often presented the sensible old god before they all
- 23:02Speaker 2: went crazy and woke, but the eldest statesman of the
- 23:06Speaker 2: party is just as deranged as the current crop. Listen
- 23:10Speaker 2: to him rant here about wanting to watch President Trump suffer.
- 23:14Speaker 13: I want to be clear on us. I do not
- 23:16Speaker 13: want that man to die. I want to I want
- 23:18Speaker 13: to watch him suffer. And I can't watch a dead
- 23:21Speaker 13: person suffer. So I want him to be fully cognizant
- 23:25Speaker 13: come November. So when people tell him I.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Can't watch a dead person's suffer, I mean these people
- 23:31Speaker 2: are sick. I keep telling you that sick and often violent.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Watch this leftist activist Chris Ostroshoko, a solet conservative female journalist,
- 23:41Speaker 2: Savannah Hernandez.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Sick sick stuff. Why was that a.
- 24:09Speaker 2: White man taking a stand against racism by assaulting a
- 24:13Speaker 2: brown woman?
- 24:14Speaker 3: Is that what happened there?
- 24:14Speaker 2: This is a woman with Filipino and Mexican heritage. He
- 24:18Speaker 2: should be prosecuted to the full extenter of the law
- 24:21Speaker 2: for that. Did you see how he had to be
- 24:23Speaker 2: held back by others? He wanted to continue that assault.
- 24:27Speaker 2: And this character has been celebrated by the leftist meta
- 24:30Speaker 2: in the past. Here he is featured with Jen Saki,
- 24:33Speaker 2: remember her, Joe Biden's former White House Press secretary turn
- 24:38Speaker 2: MSNBC host.
- 24:39Speaker 14: He's using his new fan theme to encourage others to
- 24:41Speaker 14: stand up for community too.
- 24:43Speaker 10: Ahead of nationwide strikes and protests tomorrow. We asked Chris
- 24:46Speaker 10: if he had any words of wisdom to share, and
- 24:48Speaker 10: here's what he had to say.
- 24:51Speaker 15: We need some peace and harmony in our state, in
- 24:54Speaker 15: across our country. We've been dealing with enough tyranny. We're
- 24:57Speaker 15: done with that. We need some peace, love and harmony.
- 25:00Speaker 15: Please come on, please show up, get off that culture.
- 25:04Speaker 15: If I can do it, you can do it.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Oh yes, it's all about peace, love and harmony.
- 25:09Speaker 3: You saw that.
- 25:10Speaker 2: Now get ready to be captivated by a stunning and
- 25:14Speaker 2: brave display from a bunch of silly young women who
- 25:17Speaker 2: performed a protest dance aimed at President Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
- 25:22Speaker 2: That would be the President Trump who first allerted authorities
- 25:26Speaker 2: to Epstein's creepy antics, and who Epstein hated and tried
- 25:30Speaker 2: to destroy to his dying day. But why let facts
- 25:34Speaker 2: get in the way of interpretive dance?
- 25:42Speaker 10: I have.
- 26:02Speaker 2: So brave, so stunning. Now do you remember the sitcom
- 26:06Speaker 2: Malcolm in the Middle. It was pretty good, all about
- 26:09Speaker 2: a genius child, Malcolm and his dysfunctional family. Remember he
- 26:13Speaker 2: had a big bunch of brothers. Well, now in the
- 26:16Speaker 2: new series they're rebooting it, he has one less brother
- 26:19Speaker 2: because one of those brothers is now trans or non binary.
- 26:23Speaker 2: And apparently he knew from the age of five he
- 26:27Speaker 2: was a They then.
- 26:28Speaker 16: I was like five, and I started feeling wrong. I
- 26:34Speaker 16: thought I was great at hiding it because you guys
- 26:37Speaker 16: never said anything.
- 26:38Speaker 10: He was looking at me, and I knew that he
- 26:41Speaker 10: knew and had always known.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Let's go back to MSNBC, now ms NOW whatever they're
- 26:48Speaker 2: calling themselves, and this time we're checking in with Rachel
- 26:51Speaker 2: Madda doing what she does best, misleading her dim witted audience.
- 26:56Speaker 2: Here she pretends she cares about veterans and reads extensively
- 27:00Speaker 2: from an NPR piece about veterans losing their homes.
- 27:04Speaker 14: How are these guys doing taking care of the troops
- 27:08Speaker 14: and the veterans who come home?
- 27:09Speaker 4: Form more?
- 27:11Speaker 10: This is the lead from NPR.
- 27:12Speaker 1: Quote.
- 27:13Speaker 14: More than ten thousand veterans lost their homes to foreclosure
- 27:16Speaker 14: since May of last year, when the Trump administration shut
- 27:19Speaker 14: down a key safety net in the VA home loan program.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Quote.
- 27:22Speaker 14: The Trump administration was warned this would happen at a
- 27:25Speaker 14: hearing in March twenty twenty five before the House Committee
- 27:28Speaker 14: on Veterans' Affairs, a representative from the Mortgage Bankers Association
- 27:31Speaker 14: warned about it explicitly.
- 27:33Speaker 10: Oh.
- 27:34Speaker 2: She went on to read more extracts from the piece,
- 27:37Speaker 2: but curiously she forgot this key part of the story.
- 27:42Speaker 2: The roots of the crisis go back to a mistake
- 27:45Speaker 2: made during the Biden administration when the VA abruptly shut
- 27:49Speaker 2: down a pandemic assistance program while thousands of vets.
- 27:53Speaker 3: Were still in the middle of it.
- 27:55Speaker 2: I'm sure that was just an innocent oversight from Rachel
- 27:59Speaker 2: must be. Let's bring in sky use contributor Kosher Gaeta
- 28:03Speaker 2: Kosher the ms NOW host makes in and look balanced
- 28:07Speaker 2: and rational.
- 28:08Speaker 17: Yes, Rachel is going to Rachel and that's what she does.
- 28:12Speaker 17: There's nothing innocent about her now, Yes, and she knows
- 28:15Speaker 17: exactly what she's doing, and she is quite smart. So
- 28:18Speaker 17: you know, you're the way you described her leading her
- 28:20Speaker 17: dim witted audience or sort of apied piper aspect to
- 28:23Speaker 17: what she's doing. Nobody from the right watches MSNBC ms NOW,
- 28:28Speaker 17: so that's not a problem. But in this day and
- 28:29Speaker 17: age of social media, does get clipped and shared large
- 28:32Speaker 17: and wide, and I think what she's really doing there
- 28:35Speaker 17: is taking advantage of the wedge and the fracture and
- 28:38Speaker 17: the Trump base right now as it relates to the
- 28:40Speaker 17: war and this idea that he's focusing too much on
- 28:43Speaker 17: foreign affairs and not enough on domestic affairs like the veterans,
- 28:46Speaker 17: and then she's insinuating like, oh, look, he's sending people
- 28:49Speaker 17: to war, and then when the veterans come back, they're
- 28:51Speaker 17: not looked after.
- 28:52Speaker 10: That's the undertone of what she's doing.
- 28:53Speaker 17: So I think there's a specific point she's trying to
- 28:56Speaker 17: drive and to extend that wedge, and she has no
- 28:59Speaker 17: problem selectively taking only a piece of it out of
- 29:02Speaker 17: context to certain her means.
- 29:03Speaker 3: Well, she can do.
- 29:04Speaker 2: That because really that's a minor issue compared to what
- 29:08Speaker 2: she did for years, which was just relentlessly push discredited,
- 29:14Speaker 2: debunked Russian collusion, hoaxed hysteria, and really absolutely no accountability
- 29:20Speaker 2: for any of that.
- 29:21Speaker 10: No, in fact, she got rewarded.
- 29:22Speaker 17: She famously now works one day a week for one
- 29:25Speaker 17: hour of programming and she gets paid thirty million dollars.
- 29:28Speaker 10: So it's great to be Rachel matter absolutely.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Now let's talk about President Trump's Iran blockade and the
- 29:36Speaker 2: Strait of hermos Kosha explain how this blockade works and
- 29:41Speaker 2: why the US is cutting off a trade route that
- 29:43Speaker 2: it's been desperately trying to force open.
- 29:47Speaker 17: And the messaging has been a little bit all over
- 29:49Speaker 17: the place the administration, which doesn't help. So Senkon came
- 29:53Speaker 17: out and clarified, given the little bit scattered messaging that
- 29:56Speaker 17: they are blocking just Iranian ports and on the Gulf
- 29:59Speaker 17: of and the Persian Gulf side of the street specifically,
- 30:03Speaker 17: other ships and vessels are allowed to transit through the strait.
- 30:06Speaker 17: They can use other ports, but it's not those two,
- 30:08Speaker 17: and the reason is that's where the oil is exported.
- 30:11Speaker 17: So they're trying to now maximize economic pressure on Iran.
- 30:15Speaker 17: That is, or it usually was Trump's favored lever to
- 30:20Speaker 17: apply pressure you using economic tools. And so the idea
- 30:23Speaker 17: here is that if they strangleholder, choke off the export
- 30:27Speaker 17: revenue that Iran gets, that's directly pressuring Iran. It's indirectly
- 30:31Speaker 17: pressuring Iran through China because China's the biggest customer, and
- 30:34Speaker 17: China theoretically would pressure Iran to come to the table
- 30:37Speaker 17: or come to some sort of deal.
- 30:39Speaker 2: That's a strategy, but there's a fear that cutting off
- 30:43Speaker 2: oil supply to China could go the other way instead
- 30:46Speaker 2: of them putting pressure on the Iranian regime to be
- 30:50Speaker 2: reasonable and come to a deal, that they'll start helping
- 30:54Speaker 2: the Iranian regime and providing them, perhaps even with military aid,
- 30:59Speaker 2: which would be a major escalation in the world. There's
- 31:02Speaker 2: been some conjecture about that, some might call it scare mongry.
- 31:06Speaker 3: What do you think about that?
- 31:07Speaker 2: Is there any possibility that China will take a bigger
- 31:10Speaker 2: role in this conflict?
- 31:12Speaker 17: Very possible, And there's a saying that once you get
- 31:14Speaker 17: into a conflict, the only thing that's predictable is the
- 31:17Speaker 17: unpredictability of it, and we don't know what could happen.
- 31:20Speaker 17: There are many, many actors on the board, and certainly
- 31:23Speaker 17: if you're cutting off eighty percent of where China acquires
- 31:26Speaker 17: it's oil from. They seem to be so far restrained,
- 31:29Speaker 17: and they also like to favor economic leverage and other strategies,
- 31:32Speaker 17: but I wouldn't rule that out at some point some
- 31:35Speaker 17: sort of pressure tactic coming back. Also, the Golf States
- 31:39Speaker 17: do use those ports, and they are allies and investor
- 31:41Speaker 17: trillions of dollars in the US. They're not exactly happy
- 31:44Speaker 17: with this as well. Iran itself is going to keep
- 31:46Speaker 17: trying to think of its own cards and countermoves that
- 31:49Speaker 17: it can play, which has been attacking the Golf States
- 31:52Speaker 17: nearby to further kind of widen that wedge between the
- 31:55Speaker 17: US and them, because we're supposed to be allies. So
- 31:57Speaker 17: all sorts of things could happen. And while this plays out,
- 32:00Speaker 17: the prices are surging. We're back up to over one
- 32:02Speaker 17: hundred dollars a barrel.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Our market is all over the follow place.
- 32:06Speaker 17: This is a high stakes issue that's affecting the whole
- 32:09Speaker 17: world in many ways.
- 32:10Speaker 2: And I think it's entire conflict has shown that the
- 32:13Speaker 2: West is not terribly resilient. Not only have we've become
- 32:18Speaker 2: overly reliant on foreign nations for essential needs, but we
- 32:24Speaker 2: can't withstand even just a few weeks of discomfort, whether
- 32:27Speaker 2: that's shortages, prices, stock market turmoil. It's a very different
- 32:35Speaker 2: mindset to say World War Two, where people's entire you know,
- 32:40Speaker 2: people in Australia were willing to completely turn their lives
- 32:44Speaker 2: upside down to go join a conflict on the other
- 32:46Speaker 2: side of the world because it was for the greater good.
- 32:49Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, that's a very good point. It's a different
- 32:52Speaker 17: era where countries and economies are much more fragile. Obviously,
- 32:55Speaker 17: it's like the Age of fragility in a way that
- 32:57Speaker 17: you're so reliant on this global system working and ultimately
- 33:03Speaker 17: those alliances and coalitions can free when something happens and
- 33:06Speaker 17: then you don't have self reliance. Also, demographics have changed.
- 33:09Speaker 17: The nature of the country is different. The willingness to
- 33:12Speaker 17: go and fight for a cause is different. Maybe loyalty
- 33:16Speaker 17: to the cause is different. Now the understanding of it
- 33:18Speaker 17: is different. So yeah, it has definitely exposed fragility and
- 33:22Speaker 17: lack of unity, I think in lack of consensus on
- 33:25Speaker 17: what we should be doing or should not be doing
- 33:27Speaker 17: for that matter.
- 33:27Speaker 2: Well, you look at what's happening in Europe and how
- 33:32Speaker 2: divided they are on key issues, then yeah, you just
- 33:35Speaker 2: see we are not united in the West of the moment. Now,
- 33:39Speaker 2: this may be one of the dumber controversies to hit
- 33:42Speaker 2: the Trump administration after Pope Leo again ignored the persecution
- 33:47Speaker 2: of Christians to instead criticize the Trump administration. You may
- 33:50Speaker 2: recall he previously criticized the administration for implementing immigration policy.
- 33:56Speaker 2: This time it was the war in Iran, and we
- 33:59Speaker 2: all know it was only a matter of time before
- 34:02Speaker 2: Donald Trump hit back. No surprises there, But there wasn't
- 34:06Speaker 2: much fuss there because we've become accustomed to that. But
- 34:10Speaker 2: then he posted this image it's a meme, and all
- 34:14Speaker 2: hell break loose. People on the right and left were upset.
- 34:18Speaker 2: The left is are always upset. But some Christians on
- 34:22Speaker 2: the right said this was tantamount to blasphemy and kosher
- 34:26Speaker 2: This is rare for the president.
- 34:28Speaker 3: He deleted it in the end.
- 34:30Speaker 17: To me, that's the help the global headline that's actually
- 34:33Speaker 17: walked something back and deleted his tweet. Look, I think
- 34:36Speaker 17: the first tweet, yes, it ruffled feathers, and it was
- 34:40Speaker 17: maybe uncouth and all of that, but at this point,
- 34:43Speaker 17: that is Trump's brand, and you could argue that the
- 34:45Speaker 17: Pope kind of was asking for it by stepping into
- 34:48Speaker 17: the political arena. You're you're the head of obviously a religion,
- 34:52Speaker 17: and stay in the lane of religion and morality. Don't
- 34:54Speaker 17: step into politics because if you do, we have an
- 34:57Speaker 17: eccentric president who will punch back, even if.
- 34:59Speaker 10: You're the pope.
- 35:00Speaker 17: Second one, I think people viewed it as a little
- 35:02Speaker 17: self aggrandizing, putting him.
- 35:04Speaker 2: In me it was a joke. To me, it was
- 35:06Speaker 2: it was it's a meme. It's a meme. He's not
- 35:09Speaker 2: presenting himself as God or Jesus or no, of course,
- 35:13Speaker 2: the preme leader if you want to use Iranian terminology.
- 35:17Speaker 3: But it is interesting that he deleted.
- 35:20Speaker 17: It did And I think the other issue too, is
- 35:21Speaker 17: it's undergirded by the fact that the surround war remains
- 35:24Speaker 17: very controversial, and it's on the right as well, on
- 35:26Speaker 17: the right as well, and I think that's where it
- 35:27Speaker 17: hit a nerve. And maybe led to that decision, Whereas
- 35:29Speaker 17: when he spired with the Pope and even the previous
- 35:32Speaker 17: pope founcers on immigration, he doubled and tripled down because
- 35:35Speaker 17: he knew that his beast was with him, and majority
- 35:37Speaker 17: of the country is with him.
- 35:38Speaker 10: Here, it's a little bit.
- 35:39Speaker 2: Daysier, absolutely, And you're right because when you first had
- 35:42Speaker 2: to go at the pope or go back at the Pope,
- 35:45Speaker 2: the media was shocked, All the usual commentators were shocked,
- 35:48Speaker 2: but that the voters weren't. They were expecting him to
- 35:52Speaker 2: say something back after Pope Leo intervened in domestic US politics.
- 35:56Speaker 2: Now Vice President J. D Vance has weighed in on
- 35:59Speaker 2: this issues. Obviously a devout Catholic, He's pointed out that
- 36:04Speaker 2: the US president is in charge of US foreign policy,
- 36:07Speaker 2: and perhaps the Pope should focus on matters concerning the
- 36:11Speaker 2: Catholic Church.
- 36:12Speaker 18: In some cases, it would be best for the Vatican
- 36:16Speaker 18: to stick to matters of morality, to stick to matters
- 36:20Speaker 18: of you know, what's going on in the Catholic Church,
- 36:23Speaker 18: and let the pros of the United States stick to
- 36:25Speaker 18: dictating American public policy.
- 36:27Speaker 3: Kosher.
- 36:28Speaker 2: How do you see JD Vance's role in this entire conflict.
- 36:32Speaker 2: He has been charged with negotiating this piece deal, but
- 36:36Speaker 2: as we know, he is not an interventionist. In fact,
- 36:39Speaker 2: is probably the most isolationist in this administration.
- 36:43Speaker 10: He's in a difficult spot.
- 36:44Speaker 17: He's walking a tight roll where he is a standard
- 36:46Speaker 17: bearer for populism, America First, nationalism, as you say, anti war.
- 36:51Speaker 10: He is a devout.
- 36:52Speaker 17: Catholic just to bring the Pope Bruha back into it,
- 36:55Speaker 17: and he can't go out and shouldn't go out in
- 36:58Speaker 17: my opinion, and openly just barage his boss like that's
- 37:01Speaker 17: an every good strategy for any subordinate. We've all been
- 37:04Speaker 17: in that position, but by the same took And he
- 37:06Speaker 17: is independently elected because the president and vice president are
- 37:09Speaker 17: elected together, so he's not somebody who could be fired
- 37:11Speaker 17: or put to the side in the same way as
- 37:13Speaker 17: other cabinet members. And so he has a little bit
- 37:15Speaker 17: more runway to figure out how to somehow signal his
- 37:19Speaker 17: allegiance to the constituency and that he still is America
- 37:23Speaker 17: First if he should be the front runner in twenty
- 37:25Speaker 17: twenty eight, which right now he is without going against
- 37:27Speaker 17: the president, and that's a really really tough type rope
- 37:30Speaker 17: to walk.
- 37:30Speaker 10: But he's doing it as well as I think he.
- 37:31Speaker 2: Can, and I saw some odds just in the last
- 37:34Speaker 2: twenty four hours. He's still what the odds I saw
- 37:38Speaker 2: the hot favorite to be the next candidate, But Marco
- 37:43Speaker 2: Rubio stocks are rising, and that there is a difference
- 37:48Speaker 2: between the two characters in their worldview, not just obviously
- 37:51Speaker 2: how they operate. Now, let's talk about a couple of
- 37:54Speaker 2: congressmen who have disgraced themselves. We already talked about Eric
- 37:58Speaker 2: Swolwell extensively last night. The Democrat congressman resigned from Congress today.
- 38:06Speaker 2: Last night he suspended his campaign to be the next
- 38:09Speaker 2: Coverer of California after shocking allegations were made against him,
- 38:13Speaker 2: including rape. But the Republicans have their own scandal today.
- 38:18Speaker 2: Republican Congressman Tony Gonzales has quit his reelection bid after
- 38:23Speaker 2: being accused of sending leeward text messages to at least
- 38:27Speaker 2: two staff members, including one with whom the married father
- 38:31Speaker 2: of six admitted to having an affair with and who
- 38:33Speaker 2: fatally set herself on fire. Tony Gonzalez posted this, when
- 38:39Speaker 2: Congress returns tomorrow, I will file my retirement from office Kosher.
- 38:47Speaker 2: These two congressmen have disgraced themselves, their parties, their constituents.
- 38:53Speaker 2: It's incredible that you could get to that level with
- 38:56Speaker 2: these sorts of skeletons in your closet.
- 39:00Speaker 17: Timing is curious because one the cynical side of me,
- 39:03Speaker 17: would think that it was all orchestrated, because a lot
- 39:05Speaker 17: of this stuff is known.
- 39:06Speaker 10: There are open secrets in Washington.
- 39:08Speaker 17: Why now, why did they take out swallowow by they
- 39:11Speaker 17: whoever that is, and then very conveniently they find a
- 39:13Speaker 17: Republican to take out to sort of diffuse against him.
- 39:16Speaker 17: But the broader issue here is these people in politics
- 39:19Speaker 17: and in Congress are not exactly the most sympathetic figures.
- 39:22Speaker 17: It's easy to perceive or imagine that these kinds of
- 39:25Speaker 17: things happen more often than not. And then on top
- 39:28Speaker 17: of that, there's this cloak around it and there's no
- 39:31Speaker 17: tr transparency at all. There's actually a whole file of
- 39:35Speaker 17: sexual harassment settlements that they make to staffers or other
- 39:38Speaker 17: people who accuse them, and that is under seal, and
- 39:41Speaker 17: Nancy Mace and others have been trying to pass legislation
- 39:43Speaker 17: to get it unsealed. The counter argument is presumption of innocence.
- 39:48Speaker 17: And sometimes these people have targets on their back and
- 39:50Speaker 17: there can be frivolous accusers, so let's not put it
- 39:52Speaker 17: out there. But the flip side to that is these
- 39:55Speaker 17: are public servants. They're meant to be representing us, and
- 39:58Speaker 17: everything from their stock trades to settlements that they make
- 40:01Speaker 17: to accusers of sexual harassment should be made public and
- 40:03Speaker 17: it isn't. And then when it's opportune for them, they'll
- 40:06Speaker 17: pick and choose and reveal or do these opera research
- 40:10Speaker 17: dumps on people, which is very curious, but you know,
- 40:13Speaker 17: I'm kind of not surprising.
- 40:14Speaker 2: Well, he said, these are often open secrets, and with
- 40:18Speaker 2: Eric Swolwell, it appears to be because so many people
- 40:21Speaker 2: are now coming out and saying he's always had this
- 40:24Speaker 2: shocking reputation and people have known, but it wasn't reported.
- 40:28Speaker 2: This was very well hidden from the public. And he's
- 40:32Speaker 2: had this teflon quality because he had the entire Fang
- 40:35Speaker 2: Fang scandal where he had a Chinese spy it is
- 40:39Speaker 2: in a sanctum in his bed, and he got a
- 40:42Speaker 2: promotion after that. He wasn't demoted, he didn't have his
- 40:45Speaker 2: career destroyed. It was just forgotten about and he was
- 40:49Speaker 2: elevated in the Democratic Party.
- 40:51Speaker 17: He was a presidential candidate. He never got more than
- 40:53Speaker 17: one percent of the vote, but he was running. He was,
- 40:55Speaker 17: you know, the feast of the Democrat Party for that
- 40:57Speaker 17: period of time. He was probably useful to them. I
- 41:00Speaker 17: would assume he was one of the feasis of the
- 41:02Speaker 17: Russia geek collusion hogs against was an attack dog. He
- 41:05Speaker 17: was an attack dog and so he was protected. And
- 41:07Speaker 17: maybe now he has outlived his usefulness. And how the
- 41:10Speaker 17: maty have fallen.
- 41:11Speaker 2: The party machinery gets you in the end, Kosher Gator,
- 41:14Speaker 2: Thank you so much for Thank you.
- 41:16Speaker 3: Still to come.
- 41:16Speaker 2: The latest in entertainment, including Lizzo's wild performance at Coachella.
- 41:23Speaker 3: Alex Stein is up next.
- 41:36Speaker 2: Welcome back now, it seems lizos off the ozempic and
- 41:41Speaker 2: back to boarding private jets. The Kamala campaigner was in Coachella,
- 41:45Speaker 2: where she performed a set with a giant twerking La
- 41:49Speaker 2: Boo Boo, and she was joined on stage with the
- 41:53Speaker 2: thoroughly talentless Sexy Red. It was even worse than you think,
- 42:17Speaker 2: Yeah it was. That was the highlight, guys, I played
- 42:20Speaker 2: you the best part. People spent a small fortune to
- 42:24Speaker 2: be at Coachella. I think I'd rather stick thumbtacks in
- 42:27Speaker 2: my eyes than see that again. But you know, I
- 42:30Speaker 2: do prefer Lizzo's work at Coachella more than her attempts
- 42:33Speaker 2: to save democracy.
- 42:35Speaker 3: Remember this democracy, Your health could be the moray.
- 42:45Speaker 10: On you.
- 42:56Speaker 2: But I tell you that Democrats thought she was a
- 42:59Speaker 2: force to be reckoned with the rest of us. Though,
- 43:02Speaker 2: listen to her warning here. She meant it as an endorsement,
- 43:06Speaker 2: but it was a warning.
- 43:08Speaker 12: You know.
- 43:09Speaker 2: They say, if Kamala wins, then the whole country will
- 43:12Speaker 2: be like Detroit. Joining me now is the host of
- 43:18Speaker 2: After Hours with Alex Stein. Alex, did you enjoy Lizzo
- 43:22Speaker 2: and Sexy Reds Coachella performance?
- 43:25Speaker 3: Hope you liked it more than I did.
- 43:28Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, I didn't really like the performance. And
- 43:30Speaker 19: the only people that did like the performance are the
- 43:32Speaker 19: people that were tripping on probably LSD and MBMA at
- 43:36Speaker 19: the audience. I mean, those are the only people that
- 43:38Speaker 19: could enjoy something so terrible.
- 43:41Speaker 2: Now, fans of the cues the producers of Euphoria of
- 43:45Speaker 2: putting Sidney Sweeney.
- 43:47Speaker 3: Through a humiliation ritual.
- 43:49Speaker 2: After nearly a five year hiatus, the show return with
- 43:53Speaker 2: Sweeney's character set to marry her boyfriend, but in her
- 43:57Speaker 2: opening scene, Alex Sweeney's I stop in this revealing outfit
- 44:02Speaker 2: dog costume, doing provocative videos, some of which we can't
- 44:07Speaker 2: even show on this program.
- 44:09Speaker 3: But I can't show you this.
- 44:13Speaker 10: I'm trying to become TikTok f.
- 44:17Speaker 12: The wor.
- 44:23Speaker 1: You've been a bad, bad dog.
- 44:28Speaker 2: M yes, drinking water on all fours and playing with
- 44:39Speaker 2: dog toys.
- 44:41Speaker 3: What do you make of that, Alex?
- 44:44Speaker 1: Well, Rita.
- 44:44Speaker 19: You know, I'm a huge animal lover, so I'll allow it,
- 44:48Speaker 19: and anything that puts Sydney Sweeney on my timeline more,
- 44:51Speaker 19: I'm in full supportive. So you know it is an
- 44:54Speaker 19: unorthodox role for her returning after five years of not
- 44:57Speaker 19: playing that. I'm sure that's going to be difficult. But
- 44:58Speaker 19: if you just put her on lne your I think
- 45:00Speaker 19: that job will be achieved swiftly and done at the
- 45:05Speaker 19: top level imaginable.
- 45:09Speaker 2: Oh, Alex, come on, You've got to be kidding me,
- 45:12Speaker 2: don't you Reckon? They've done that to her deliberately because
- 45:15Speaker 2: she upsets so many people on the left with that
- 45:19Speaker 2: American Eagle campaign and you know, talking about her genes
- 45:23Speaker 2: and people said it was a dog whistle.
- 45:26Speaker 3: To white supremacy.
- 45:27Speaker 2: Don't you think they're making a do that just to
- 45:31Speaker 2: teach her a little lesson.
- 45:33Speaker 19: Yeah, and that makes me like it even more. Rita,
- 45:35Speaker 19: that's how sick I am in my mind. The fact
- 45:38Speaker 19: that she's doing that as a punishment makes it even better.
- 45:40Speaker 19: And I hate to admit that publicly, but.
- 45:44Speaker 3: You just have bless you. Now, this is an incredible story.
- 45:48Speaker 2: The New York Post reports an Illinois woman who claimed
- 45:52Speaker 2: she was detained by ICE for nearly two days was
- 45:55Speaker 2: actually relaxing at a hotel getting SPA treatments. According to
- 46:00Speaker 2: one million dollar defamation suit filed by a county sheriff.
- 46:05Speaker 2: Sundays Sonny Neckvi, who is a US citizen, gain national
- 46:10Speaker 2: attention last month was she and a band of supporters
- 46:14Speaker 2: publicly insisted she was unlawfully detained by ICE officers for
- 46:18Speaker 2: around forty three hours.
- 46:20Speaker 3: But Alex, it looks like she.
- 46:22Speaker 2: Was perhaps busy getting facials and massages at a hotel.
- 46:27Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm not surprised, and she almost got away with it.
- 46:30Speaker 19: But you know, that's the whole entire reason that we
- 46:32Speaker 19: have ICE. It is only going to deport the illegal immigrants.
- 46:36Speaker 19: So if you're a legal citizen. The fact that this
- 46:38Speaker 19: person is so feels like they're so under threat they
- 46:40Speaker 19: have to lie and misrepresent the fact that they were
- 46:43Speaker 19: even detained or you know, potentially deported. That's because no
- 46:47Speaker 19: American citizen has been deported by ICE. As much as
- 46:51Speaker 19: CNN and MS now wants to tell you, ICE is
- 46:53Speaker 19: only dealing with people that are here illegally, and I
- 46:56Speaker 19: think that they have their you know, every rate to
- 46:58Speaker 19: do that.
- 46:58Speaker 1: In my opinion.
- 47:01Speaker 2: Before we go on to the next topic, I've got
- 47:03Speaker 2: to say I do like your new set, and you've
- 47:06Speaker 2: managed to squeeze in AOC there. I know you've got
- 47:09Speaker 2: a crush on the congresswoman. I don't know if she
- 47:12Speaker 2: appreciates being on your wall. But that was the tax
- 47:16Speaker 2: the rich dress she wore to the met gala, which
- 47:20Speaker 2: is ironic in itself. Now, the former longtime drama to
- 47:24Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen has come out and slammed the painfully woke
- 47:28Speaker 2: see I'm saying he should respect President Trump. Speaking to
- 47:31Speaker 2: The New York Post, Winnie Lopez said Trump is the
- 47:34Speaker 2: president of the United States, everyone should have respect for
- 47:38Speaker 2: him now. Lopez also added that his current band doesn't
- 47:42Speaker 2: focus on issuing political statements. Instead, they focus on the music.
- 47:47Speaker 2: My band, whatever we think, we don't go there in
- 47:50Speaker 2: our music, said Lopez.
- 47:52Speaker 3: Alex. He can only say.
- 47:54Speaker 2: This because he's retired from Bruce's band. I can't imagine
- 47:58Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen allowing any sort of viewpoint diversity in his band.
- 48:04Speaker 19: No, you know, Bruce is not going to let somebody
- 48:07Speaker 19: have a different political viewpoint than him. But what's so
- 48:10Speaker 19: crazy is Rita. When Donald Trump was shot, you saw
- 48:13Speaker 19: all these people cheer, and people were so happy, and
- 48:17Speaker 19: that made me sick. But when Joe Biden fell off
- 48:19Speaker 19: that bicycle, I was in tears. I didn't vote for
- 48:22Speaker 19: Joe Biden, but I don't ever like seeing my president
- 48:24Speaker 19: just falling over. So I do agree with the drummer
- 48:27Speaker 19: that no matter who is president, whether you voted for
- 48:30Speaker 19: them or not, it's your American duty to go support
- 48:33Speaker 19: whoever the commander in chief is, whether you like him
- 48:35Speaker 19: or not, because that's just who America is and that's
- 48:38Speaker 19: what we're supposed to do. So I agree with the drummer.
- 48:40Speaker 1: One.
- 48:42Speaker 2: Well, I've got to say I did laugh a little
- 48:44Speaker 2: bit when he fell off that bicycle.
- 48:46Speaker 3: It was pretty funny, come on it. We had to
- 48:50Speaker 3: laugh at that, but you.
- 48:51Speaker 2: Know, he wasn't really the president had we had someone
- 48:54Speaker 2: else pulling the strings. So we have respect for whoever
- 48:57Speaker 2: that happened to be. Maybe one day we'll find out
- 48:59Speaker 2: who it was. Alex Stein, thank you so much for
- 49:02Speaker 2: your time tonight, and that's all the time we have tonight.
- 49:05Speaker 2: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow night. Newsnight is up next.