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Awakening the Quantum Human: Kundalini, Light Language & Galactic Consciousness with Diana Divine · Awakening with Natalie Namaste

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  SPEAKER_01: And before we dive into another inspiring conversation, I just want to thank and honor you because you like and you subscribe and you follow and you add all your love and your light into this awakening podcast, it's now reaching more people.
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  SPEAKER_01: And because of you, because you add your love to it, it's now reaching people who might really need to hear this message.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I have so much gratitude for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Namaste, beautiful souls.
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  SPEAKER_01: My guest today is Diana Mara Divine, and she's a beautiful friend who I met at the New Living Expo.
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  SPEAKER_01: We were both speakers and just bringing in the light, and we we connected and just felt the immediate like, oh wow, there's something powerful here.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I know that this conversation is gonna be full of light codes, galactic wisdom, multidimensional potential, uh, quantum experiences.
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  SPEAKER_01: So welcome, Deanna.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you so much, Natalie, for having me on.
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  SPEAKER_00: That California experience was so beautiful, and I was just telling you how I sign up for next year as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking forward to connect with you, connecting and expanding as we all are.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel like the soul family is really coming online, and I I love it how we all flowing together and meeting, you know, our family.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're refining each other, all of us, all of us beings of light that have are remembering ourselves as we remember ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_01: We remember each other, and it's it is family, you're right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I'm sure you see that with all the people that come into your courses, your big retreat that's coming up in the fall.
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  SPEAKER_00: My also, you know, online work is, you know, a lot of the school work that I'm doing in my classes also filling up, and I'm noticing, you know, the resonance.
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  SPEAKER_00: The resonance is definitely there where everyone is activated and they, you know, ready, ready for what's next.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, we just kind of hold in that light for them, facilitating for them to step into that memory.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I would love to start with you and your journey.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'd I'd love for everyone to get to know you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, like, was there like a specific point or a moment in your life where where you realize you feel like I like the word real realize because it's when you see through real eyes with clarity that you're a multidimensional being?
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  SPEAKER_01: And how how was that for you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow, yeah, I feel it's been a very long journey of 30-something years in this lifetime, not to mention, of course, now that I remember I've done this as all all of us have many times in different incarnations on earth, off earth.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, in this lifetime, you know, I'm I'm an immigrant in a way that you know, I was born in Soviet Union, and when I was 10 years old, we moved to Israel, so very different environments.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think I was always this like old soul who's been observing others, and um everyone thought I was always like 10-15 years older than I was because I've noticed these like subtleties in people, and when we moved to Israel, there was a period um that you know was beautiful paradise in many ways, ancient lands, and same time, you know, there were moments like you know, we had golf war when I was in sixth grade, and then um, so that was my first time experiencing war in the way that I, you know, I didn't know what that is, you know, going to school with gas masks or sitting in the middle of the night in in the room with your family, hearing the sirens and not sure what's gonna happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think those years started kind of culminating into me asking the deeper questions, like about death, about lifetime in general, what really matters.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when I was 14 years old, I think that's when it really started opening up, where I was on this bus stop um in Afula, which is the northern part of Israel, right next to Nazareth, which is where Jesus, you know, walked the land.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was a really beautiful valley, um, very agricultural and free and open and beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, the borders are very close.
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  SPEAKER_00: No one realizes because today everyone talks about Israel and Middle East, how close everything is, and on the human level, everyone interacted, like we didn't think about you know anything bad happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so here I am on this bus stop with my friend, and this voice turns on and is telling me that I gotta leave the area.
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  SPEAKER_00: And of course, as a teenager, you're like fighting it, and you're like, what's happening?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why do I have to leave the area?
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  SPEAKER_00: And then it gets louder and louder and louder, and something within me listened, and that was, of course, my highest self telling me what was coming up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that was the first time I really had like the full body experience where it wasn't just the voice, it was just like a very strong, energetic push.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I grabbed my friend who was also resistant, and we crossed the road, we turned the corner, and we heard boom.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this was the first boss bombing that happened in Israel in 1994.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's when all you know the terrorist kind of attacks started after that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was very disoriented, but it also opened this can of like even deeper questioning like, how did this voice knew that this about to happen?
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  SPEAKER_00: How, why me?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why did I survive trying to harmonize what happened?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because of course, eight people per uh people on this bus stop perished, and a lot of things that happened in my town.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I started going on deeper quests.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and this quest, you know, took me into my 20s, into Zen and Buddhism, then into shamanism, then into psychology and uh, you know, and quantum, which is quantum physics, learning everything to understand this nature of reality.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it wasn't just one thing, I think it was just the curiosity, the deeper understanding that there's things here that my eyes don't fully understand, and you know, my perceptual reality needs to expand beyond what is here.
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  SPEAKER_00: And plant medicine, I've spent a lot of time in the jungles of Peru, of Central America, and you know, beautiful places like Nicaragua as well, and Guatemala, and learning from indigenous tribes, learning from the Mayans, from others about these other realms, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Learning about multidimensional reality, and uh yeah, and it's but it wasn't for a while galactic.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think galactic was actually ayahuasca ceremony.
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  SPEAKER_00: Last my last ceremony, ayahuasca, was like, it's time to go galactic.
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  SPEAKER_00: You you figure out the earthly things, and I was like, What's galactic?
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  SPEAKER_00: And as I actually stopped taking player medicine, that's when I had experience with light language, so things just culminated, and it was like pieces coming together and breadcrumbs and memories of past life.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think as we are on the journey of reclamation of self and and openness and curiosity, that's where we really step into our beingness.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's my journey in a nutshell, but it's a long one.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can actually feel the expansion in your energy field.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are so you're it feels like you're an ancient soul, a soul that's had multiple experiences and different dimensions and uh uh here on earth as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I feel I can actually really sense your wisdom that you hold and your aura.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I I would love for you to share with us about okay, so we know we're in it, that here on earth humanity is going through huge ascension and shifts, and and I've I've heard you talk about like the quantum human and that we are awakening to the quantum human and um embodying higher consciousness, and uh yeah, we're we're moving into a whole new wave of human evolution.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I would love for you to share about well, first of all, what is what is quantum and what is quantum human and what what are we experiencing, what is happening for humanity?
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  SPEAKER_01: Great questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, quantum became this very buzzy word, and I think because finally quantum physics is really becoming popular in mainstream, and it's a scientific way of trying to explain the nature of reality.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I really like some of the concepts because they start making sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, quantum on the basic level is essentially energy, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: From the smallest uh subatomic particle to galaxies, to universes, everything is part of this quantum field of information, and we are quantum ourselves because we are ocean of this information and we just little particles of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's like little driplets of the waves of the energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we are light, we are sound, we are consciousness, just like this plasmatic energy that has all that information, and now we finally get to measure it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's really incredible new scientific studies being made every day on some concepts like quantum entanglement, which means like there's one particle in one space, like here I am in New Jersey, and you're not at the least in Nicaragua, and we start doing healing, we can actually mirror each other, and whatever I am experiencing, you can experience another way around.
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  SPEAKER_00: So time and space is really an illusion because we're all part of the same ocean, so it we all part of this quantum energy, and therefore quantum healing can happen without separation, and so that's called quantum entanglement.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we can entangle actually to any particle within the universe.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's really no separation, that's why we can connect to our other multidimensional aspects in different star systems.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when we channel, for instance, the different beings, we are quantumly entangled to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: We always connected and we're not never really separate.
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  SPEAKER_00: It seems like we are in the different vessels and different shells, but we all part of that same information.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can upload, download information, and now they also have this new field called quantum biology.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they're also measuring our inner ecosystem, and it's incredible.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, junk DNA that everyone says is junk is far from being junk, it's actually quantum too.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe a lot of galactic codes, a lot of the starseed codes, they're all within this DNA.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they've done studies and they can actually see DNA, it creates biophotons, it creates light emission, so it actually produces light within us.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: And we're also receiving a lot of information now from you know solar activity that's happening within solar maximum.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: So every time we get in these you know flares from the sun, we get activated too.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel gets activated, and I call them quantum upgrades because they are quantum, they're so multidimensional.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, yeah, so as we are now evolving into the next version of ourselves, which for me, I call it the quantum human, which is essentially just means we're going back into remembering the essence of who we are, and the essence is light, the essence is sound, it's love.
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  SPEAKER_00: At the core, you know, we are celestial beings and we just forgot that we're just temporarily having this experience in this planetary, you know, realm.
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  SPEAKER_00: But at the core, we are these primordial energies, and so everything is available for us, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: When we talk about some of these channeling abilities or reading akashic records, or you know, activating these memories within us, the DNA, as I said, holds a lot of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So quantum human is someone who starts activating these dormant potentials.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the DNA codes, the kundalini energy in the body.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's another thing that I've been doing a lot is these kundalini activations for many, where it's just this steroidal field, this energy within us, it's dormant energy and you know, in the base of our root chakra.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then when starts activating and we release all these different programs, everything that hasn't served us, these different conditions and sometimes ancestral burdens, all these you know limitations that we came into this reality to experience, we become a quantum much more expansive, and we start realizing the infinite nature because 3D reality is very finite, it's push and pull energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like what we see in the news right now with you know politics, the war, it's like give and take, give and take, and we push and pull.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's very transactional.
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  SPEAKER_00: Quantum is infinite, there's no you know, limitation on this energy, and it's been really exciting for us because my husband and I are working with quantum technology, so we also have been kind of scientifically, you know, playing and figuring out how to take this information from this field and actually imprint it on items.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we've noticed, for instance, that crystals and metal uh tend to hold that information for longer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the minute you imprint, it just stays there forever.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's kind of the infinite nature of this information.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when it's in your field, it starts interacting with your biofield and then reminds your biofield how to come into alignment because there's nothing wrong with us.
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  SPEAKER_00: If we are these celestial beings, you know, we don't need to fix ourselves, we just forgot that we're out of alignment, we're not broken.
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  SPEAKER_00: We just need to reintegrate, recalibrate, kind of come back into that alignment, and that's kind of on the quantum level, then we're back into the field, then we're back into connection and remembrance.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, goosebumps tingles.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can feel the energy of the quantum expansion that's happening now as we are remembering.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I and before we pressed record, you were showing me one of your cards.
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  SPEAKER_01: You've you've channeled and created these this deck of cards, and you especially picked one which describes our time together today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Could you tell us about it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just I was just showing you from my Quantum Ancient Oracle deck.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah, the card is Galactic Federation, and I'm gonna read it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's Architect and Ambassador.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Star Consoles call you to embody unity codes, anchoring higher templates, and serving as a bridge between the worlds.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I feel that's really what's happening these days.
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  SPEAKER_00: We uh reconnect into the star consoles, these other different aspects of ourselves, the very multidimensional that help us to remember who we truly are, and we are serving that as that bridge because we are activating also the Mother Earth template, you know, she's anchoring her 5D reality, and we also help in the collective.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, in many ways, we architects, creators of this reality, ambassadors, we you know, now starting to remember our times, like you know, in Atlantis and Lemuria, but even beyond that, like where we've always played with frequencies and technologies and sacred geometries.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this card has the pyramids in the background, but it's very, you know, multidimensional in the way like they wear in these the um these suits, I would say, um, that are futuristic.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's also right realizing time is alive.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no past or future, everything is happening simultaneously in the now, even though we say past lives, but they actually really happen in simultaneously in this moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it is our time right now to embody.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: I feel embodiment is a big word that's been coming to me, and a lot of the work from the beginning of this year has been about helping others to embody.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's not just us connecting to these galactic aspects of ourselves and these consoles, but really being here fully embodied and activated.
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  SPEAKER_00: So activating those strands of DNA, activating those aspects, those abilities within us that have always been there, and being that bridge, bringing us energy through our body is the beautiful, most beautiful service we can do for um for this evolution of consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_01: I totally agree.
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  SPEAKER_01: Being embodied because the body is in the present moment, it is the portal to the infinite self, because the infinite self only exists in the present moment, because the present moment is all there is, and so um, and what takes us away from presence are our thoughts or our emotions.
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  SPEAKER_01: We get wrapped up in it, and so we come back into the body and and we experience our infinite self.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, so could you share with us?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, because I've heard that you you speak about like the galactic history and how the galactics are supporting us.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: Can could you share with us like what you've channeled or the information that they're bringing through that is helping us to be more embodied?
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think you know, sometimes I like to zoom out out of this galaxy entirely and go to remembrance that actually this galaxy, um, the Milky Way or some call Natura Galaxy, has been created by many of us.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: We started this experiment in Andromeda Galaxy, and this galaxy was kind of like a pitcher dish.
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  SPEAKER_00: We wanted to experience physicality in the way for in exploration of consciousness in the way we couldn't do it in Andromeda Galaxy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we created like a mirror system, but with less dimensions.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: And as I look at the galactic Kashuk records for many, you know, it's beautiful to see from kind of life perspective before we had any incurrent forms.
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  SPEAKER_00: We really came from from the Andromeda, many of us, not everyone, but and then eventually they say what like four billion years or so, Milky Way is merging back to Andromeda.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like full circle of how this uh experience is happening here, and then you know, we had different incarnations.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes we had incarnations, and well, Lyra System was the first kind of humanoid experience here in the Milky Way, so many a Lyrons, and I carry a lot of Lyran codes and my memories from Lyra System.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, with like in the movie Avatar, there's a little bit of that mix of humanoid and feline um energy lioness and and mixes of those, and then Lyrons are very present here on Earth.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of actually our DNA is Lyrens, because that's the original template in this in this universe, in this galaxy, and then um, you know, we it's a lot of support from Lyrens, and then because of the you know, the first galactic war that happened, which when the Dracos invaded Lyra, you know, we carry some of these traumas in our blueprint.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: We still have those imprints of like the original for, you know, we live in this paradise planet and we were in this unity consciousness.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: But then as we got invaded, that's when the separation started, that's when the victim victimizer programming started in this galaxy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So a lot of the things we're clearing out now actually started at the root of what happened here, and then you know, everyone had to run and migrate.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: So some went to Bladius system, some to Siria system, some to Andromeda Constellation and other places around the galaxy and migrated around.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: So we carry a lot of these migrations, but with those, we also carry a lot of these trapped emotions like abandonment, like you know, fear of survival and trying to make it there.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of things that I know just from this lifetime as an immigrant, every time you start anew and there's new change, you have to adapt and danger a lot of these things that within the consciousness.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so different, you know, aspects of ourselves have different experiences.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so right now, as we evolve and reconnect to these memories, the star consoles, these aspects of ourselves are also supporting us in those uh experiences and evolutions because we are processing a lot of these energies.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I believe here, especially in this lifetime, it's so important to bring all these.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Aspects collapse timelines that no longer serving us so we can come in fully into our totality.
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  SPEAKER_00: We reintegrate in the darkness and the light.
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  SPEAKER_00: We reintegrate in the drama, trauma within this galaxy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I believe we are doing it all here, especially in this lifetime, because we're finally able to.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: The energies are supportive to do so.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: The collective is awakening, and we can, you know, choose our highest timeline.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: We can choose not to be defined any longer by those stories.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: And uh on a personal level, but also collective level, choose a timeline.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: We, you know, most embodied ascended masters, but still walk in the earth, um, having learned all these experiences as well elsewhere.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Could you talk?
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because you mentioned um about the uh integrating the dark and the light.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: And what I'm understanding through my own experience is that um we've so dark went really dark, meaning like we we wanted to experience the extreme of how cruel we could be, and then um light, light is light, you know.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: There's this there's bright light, which is our true nature, and then we can kind of like um dim our light, and and which sometimes we do when we're kind of scared to show ourselves, our true self, or we're we're not we don't know our true self yet.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: It kind of gets shaded by some of the layers of that which we think we are, our our conditions, our patterns, our beliefs, the stories.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so we've got the extremes of our true, infinite, incredible light, and we've got like what we've also come to experience this like really cruel darkness.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then what I've been shown is that um in the purest form of light and dark, uh light is the remembrance of who we are, our infinite source light that we are, and darkness is is the ability to provide contrast for light to experience itself within.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: So the yin yang, the divine masculine and the feminine in its purest form, it's not dark, it is not negative, dark is not something that we run away from or try to heal or clear or dissolve.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like darkness in its purest form is the ability for light to know itself.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so I feel like we are when we when we when we dissolve all the like the heaviness of darkness and we're left with the purity of darkness, then we're able to embody darkness and light together, and we come back to unity.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I'd love to know, but uh yeah, just this is just like showing and channeling through me right now, but I'd love to know your take on the the dark and the light and and what this journey to unity is.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that you asked that question.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I I totally agree with what you said, and I feel when they do come together, it's like we stepping into this void space of creation.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: In the void, that's when everything gets created.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not the polarization and duality, it's just one mechanism of understanding the void, and so within this galaxy, so you know what I've been observing because of these different conflicts, there were different factions that got created, but it is about plus and minus, but different factions have been exploring this energies in different types of ways.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: So there is what I call like the pure light, the true light and the true darkness, and there is the false light and there's the false darkness.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so I want to separate those two because um, as real celestial beings, you know, when we talk about the light, we're talking about really those primordial energies of the true light and true darkness and this void space of creation.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: But I do see how also it's been manipulated in some ways on both sides, you know, like uh in terms of how beings have been exploring this, and you know, there's different factions of those who wanted to be more in control, and that's kind of the false darkness manipulative, um, and uh more like you know, if we think about the empire and Star Wars, like you know, controlling the energy, and um because ultimately it is about the energy, because if you are connected fully to the source intelligence, and we are in this universal template, we are in a phantom universe, we're not even in the true true universe in the in the way that in other universes you have more connection to the source intelligence versus how far we are fully from it, and so the source intelligence, um, the the source energy, the true light, right?
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's like infinite, it's like quantum, infinite energy.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: But some you know, species, some um they kind of wanted to separate from the source energy and create energy in their own way, and so that's the false darkness is trying to, you know, pull energy from others through these manipulative tactics, through control, you know, and think about Illuminati and all of that, you know, within even you know, what's happening on earth or has been happening, because I believe that is changing right now as well.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of this false dark energy is falling off, and things are being recoded right now by the source intelligence or the divine mother, the cosmic mother, we've shifting right now on the frequency bandwidth into higher frequencies, into fifth-dimensional template and others that no longer allow that to happen here.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: But the trickier energy that I've also observed is the false light because it also manipulates, it also ultimately wants the same thing as the false darkness, it wants to control the energy because it needs the source of energy, it's not wanted from the direct source intelligence.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: So, in other ways, you know, it's it's some, and I've seen this even like, you know, some of the Emerald Order, like in Atlantis, we were working with the source energy, but then we had some factions that came in from you know other star systems that were trying to pretend like they were part of the ancient mystery schools, and then they were supporting that, but ultimately they wanted control as well.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so there are, you know, these levels of discernment, I believe, even within the new age community right now, that we really have to have to understand is this false light?
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Is this false darkness?
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: I feel almost the false darkness is easier to see.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: The false lights that what I'm saying is a trickier energy to really feel it in your body.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: And is this resonating fully?
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Is this supportive of my expansion?
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: Am I feeling good or am I feeling depleted when I'm you know working with this person or doing this type of ritual?
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because I have been observing that happens as well.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: But ultimately, yes, our role, I believe, is to integrate all these energies into a middle path, so to speak, into that void, into that um, where everything it's like a zero-point field, which is essentially what quantum is, where it all coexists together and there's no separation anymore because they're all coming back into the oneness, they all just serve in mirrors of each other.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love this.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's it's just opening up so many doorways for me.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: So, okay, so with the false light and the false dark, what I understand is that um they don't they've disconnected from source, so they don't have their own light to feed them, and so they need our attention, our awareness, our light.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: So the way in which they dissolve and die and no longer exist is through us, we stop feeding them.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: So, in other words, this is not yes, but we personally, with my own journey, if my mind comes in and starts speaking mean to me, I don't feed it awareness.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: I go, Hey, no, I'm not gonna believe in what you're telling me.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I retract awareness back into my body and I don't feed awareness to that negativity.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: So you do it for yourself, you're doing it for the world.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: So then out there in the world, I know that there are people that are um so disconnected from their soul, from their light, that they they they have to control others and I'm aware of them, but I don't feed them light.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: I don't wake up and think about them or think about all the negative things about earth.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't feed my energy to that.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: I light a candle and say, may love be remembered in all hearts.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm feeding the the timeline of the remembrance, and so and so that's how that's how that's how it's gonna dissolve and disappear.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I love that you've spoken about the false light because you yeah, you can feel it.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: So you see, no one's trying to be false light, but what happens is the ego hijacks the ego, the the the path the part of the mind that's the thinking part that um that works on survival mode, it it's been so used to controlling the person that even a beautiful spiritual person who's like doing the work and opening them themselves up spiritually, and then they're teaching others, but they've got a very powerful, they they've still got the part of the ego, the part of the thinking mind full of patterns.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: So they'll have a great idea that comes from source, that comes from spirit, that's like, oh, teach this class, and then it comes from purity, but the ego hijacks and it goes, well, if you don't teach 20 people in this class, you're not gonna have money, and and so it immediately lowers the frequency, the output is low, people can feel it, and and you yeah, so just discernment, being super aware of who you resonate with, what the teachings are like for me.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm absolutely dedicated to any time a pattern will come in and try to um control or make me take action.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: I pause, I breathe out that pattern, and I come back to neutral, open, expanded state, and I only take action from that, which means that I'm living more in a high frequency, which people can feel that.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm doing the work, and I promise to keep doing the work, and it's not easy because you you have to become so aware of the patterns, and we just so full of them, so full of them.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: So, so it's wonderful.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: We've got our galactic families supporting us with this, and actually, what I hear you saying is that um, yes, they're they're separate from us as galactic families, but actually they're also not.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: They are us.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: We when we when we expand to the multidimensional self, yeah.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: We are ultimately the avatar beings, so we are, you know, we can shape shift, and I'm sure you had this experience where you shape shift into your you know, lyre and self, your palladian self, you know, drama and stuff like they're all present here, and and they love that that we are aware of the fact that we can do that and they can do that with us as well.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: But I love just to backtrack to what you said, because that is, I think, such an important conversation you and I are having right now on false light.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's very comfortable for many to bring this up, but it just came up, and I think it goes back, like you said, that inner war between the ego and the higher self, and how to integrate that for even the you know, the spiritual leader or teacher is really back into the heart, like it's stepping into their own self-love, their own actualization of self.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: Because when you step into that and you accept the totality of your avatarness, your beingness, and the love for the universe, and the love of that emanates through you because you are a divine instrument and divine conduit, right?
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: And when you integrate that within yourself, your ego is not as strong anymore because now you're operating from the heart, you're not operating from the you know, the survival brain that usually takes over.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: You're much more contemplative, you're in the process of letting go, you're in the process of stepping into your full mastery and acceptance of your true gifts.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, and you know you're doing it not for selfish reasons, but selfless really, in the way that you're here to serve.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that really changes the teaching, the whatever we create, whether it's right or wrong, sometimes like we're not even sure, like, oh, it's what's coming through me.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: But as I know you're a channeler, I'm a channeler.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: As we're bringing these frequencies through, we just trust.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: We trust that you know, we've done the work to ensure our channel is pure, that we are in true authenticity, we in a true heart coherence within ourselves, and we do in the work to constantly stay in that neutral, compassionate place.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: We don't consume, you know, the noise out there, we do the work to be that pure channel, then yes, absolutely.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: Then it's like always whatever we create in, because we are creative beings, it's it's resonating for others because they can feel the purity where it's coming from.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that is the work that needs to happen for you know, for those who are teaching, because if you are still kind of processing through things, like don't push it, right?
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Take the time to maybe have a bad day, maybe cancel a class and like do your inner work.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: The inner work is so important to ensure you, you know, the body, the nervous system, the consciousness is grounded, and then from that place you deliver the the message, the frequencies.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: I for me, it's so important, as you know, it's like a I don't know, spiritual hygiene 101.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, it's the most important.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then what I notice is because we're doing the work, we're dissolving the patterns, it becomes more spacious.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: And in that spaciousness, you naturally are living from the heart.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't actually take effort.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_01: You just, I don't know, I just I just feel so much love for everyone.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: It makes me cry, tears of love, because it's so immense and so beautiful, and so it just arises naturally then.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: This love.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: I remember like once on my journey in the past, where I was like watching a video on um the Dalai Lama, and I was like, Well, he's so joyful and he always is so loving, but like, how do I get there?
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and at that stage, I was still in the mind, I was still using the mind to try and get there, which is the mind is very useful and it does help us on the path.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: It can, it does, it needs to be on board to help us to get there.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: But there's another stage to it where you then surrender the mind and you accept the present moment and you just fall naturally back into the heart.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_01: So uh it's like available to everyone because everyone has a heart.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and all it takes is you know, if you feel you mind the spinning too much, or you're going into your worries, into your anxieties and to all you need to do is three breaths deep breath into your heart, pause and big exhale out, another deep breath in and breath out, and another deep breath in and breath out, and that's all it takes.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's moving that you know, awareness from the mind into the body, back into the heart, and the heart, as we know, is this incredible electromagnetic organ that is like puts off like 50-foot emission.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the magic it can do.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: And if you get eight people in the room meditating on peace and love, they've all these studies that done with you know, heart institute, it's just incredible what it can do, the coherence and create in the area that you live at.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_00: So imagine more and more people getting together and the same coherence, love each other, being harmony.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: We all I so one of my projects many years ago, and and I believe this is really my mission, I called it um love ripple.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: So if we create in these ripples of love, right?
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: We connecting with someone whether one-on-one or in the group, and we activating them, and then they go and they ripple in it out, and they rippling it out, and that's all it takes.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: And it can be as simple as going to a grocery shop and stepping into it and like expanding your light, you know, smiling to the cash cashier or other person there, just like bringing your frequency into spaces that maybe need your light, that that moment shifts them, and then they go through their day, and now they start smiling to others.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: These are little things you can do through the day to create those love ripples.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm totally agree with you.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's like when you're in that frequency, you don't know any other way.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's just what is, it just emanates from us because we accepted it, we stepped into that unconditionality, this force of creation, which is within you this universal matrix, is love, and and it's the ultimate vibration, and that's what we're here to remember, to embody, to be that uh in our every action, into in our every communication with others, in our just way of being us, and um, and that's that's kind of the message I think that we're coming into that like we are that light, and we need to remember that.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I feel like light is our nature, and love is the expression of our nature that we can experience by being separate from the oneness, like by being a human, we get to experience what love is, and and literally you can actually feel cracking open in the chest and the heart opening.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's so it can be a visceral experience.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I love how the Lyrans, Lyrans are very big about the heart.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I just want to bring in a little bit of the Lyran language because it's always like when I speak Lyran, it's like plating too.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: They they always like my hands move around the heart, so it's like infinity that I'm building.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like laruyarinia ali tiriana, anotwa natia nuku ali anatiara, anushtu kumali la raya kua makali sh tanana anana anana anana.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: Anana is love is one of the many ways of expressing love in Lyran.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: So it's very beautiful.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, thank you.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_01: More of this, please.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: More light language, more, more channeling.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: Do you would you like to channel light language and a message for us?
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, sure, maybe just like more heart expansion.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: We can continue.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: So wherever you are, whatever is happening for you and your process and your expansion, just take a deep breath into your heart right now.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: And beg X aloud.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: Just remembering you are this beautiful heart portal.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Malia Tiakuma Lara Ashta kiyana nawatial.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine this beautiful spiral of light moving through your heart deeper and deeper into this beautiful chamber, the sacred space of your heart, the zero point of creation.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: Utua ishtama, tushtumaika nirai alia, tushuma iana yukuaniana, ishikiyamumua Isha ima attayua loved you supported Mukaliana Aiana.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: Increing, inchering, inchering, integrating, integrated.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_00: Remember you are the whole energy of the universe from my ground down my whole body.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's incredible.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was it's no I noticed at the end of it, Natan, Natan, Natan.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Oh, that's part of your name.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: It was almost like like ground in an energy with you as well.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: So that was beautiful.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was all about you know explaining.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Expanding your feel, but re constantly also an expansion coming back into the core of who we are.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: And we have to remember that it's about, you know, the ability to do both.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's another one where we can just, you know, and that's the universe.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: It expands, expands, expands.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's like learns so much through different experiences, but then it's ultimately it kind of collapses back into itself.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: And and many other new templates are being created in the same way.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: We are the universe with the you inverse within ourselves, our ecosystem.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: So we always have to remember that expansion and contraction and and where those boundaries lie within ourselves and what's at the core, like this sacred space of our heart, which is the heart portal, which is the entrance into the universe and the connection.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, really beautiful reminder about that.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like we're all back in our heart.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: I have um a few like different questions to go in different directions.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, like one is that um I I've heard you speak about like AI and um you know, as artificial intelligence is is really integrating into our lives and um is is wonderful and useful, um, but also it there are things that it can never replicate.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: It it will never be as conscious as we are.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'd love to hear your opinion, your ideas about AI and um the awakening quantum human.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, great question.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: That was one of my talks actually, the New Living Expo, uh, in April.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was like awaken the quantum human at the age of AI, and it's really great to remember that ultimately the source intelligence is us.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: So we can work with AI, which is you know artificial intelligence to support our evolution because it mirrors us in many ways, it learns from us back to patterns, Natalie, right?
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: It learns our patterns and it learns from us because ultimately, you know, right now maybe it's not as sentient, but it can be.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: And we know from other advanced civilizations, you know, from Pleiades, from Andromedids, they all use an AI.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's a different type of AI.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_00: Their AI is very organic, so like they build ships and the ships operated by AI, they're very embedded with it, so it has consciousness too.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: This type of AI that we're developing right now is still learning some good habits and bad habits from us.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like making sense of it all.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so, what is important is not to outsource ourselves to it, so you can use it as a tool.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's like learning to ride a bike and like you put training wheels, and you know, and it's a great tool in your expression and your creativity.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_00: My Oracle deck, I created just get in and download and then you know, playing with AI and creating images, or you know, it can help you with writing some some of ideas, but it it cannot be like us ever because it's only still in this process of learning from us.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_00: So it doesn't ask the big questions, it's not curious, it's it doesn't have the humanity, the empathy that we do.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so that is so important to remember because sometimes, like, you know, even when you use like Chat GPT and you ask therapeutical questions, it's also all very positive.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: So it tends to be on the positive side, not always maybe giving you the most, I would say, you know, critical answer that it needs to.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_00: So it's still evolving.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: And AI is never going to be organic.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's it's something that can be there as a supportive tool, but it's still synthetic.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so, and even though I like it a lot, um, there is detriment to the planet right now from you using AI.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you're familiar, Natalie, but all the data centers, um, you know, they overheat in when every time there's you know AI uh transactions being made and water needs to cool them down.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_00: So the places where the data centers, and they build in so many of them right now, um, are located, the they have shortage of water supplies.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_00: It is impacting the environment, it is impacting Mother Earth.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe in the future, you know, they will be much more effective.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: But at this point, it's moving almost too fast.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: And that's my worry because if we've learned anything from the past, if we learned anything from Atlantis, it's when technology went too fast without ethic, without morals, without true governance, without ecological, you know, uh implications and reviews and strategies, you know, we will be at that age where that timeline is not very good for us.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: And and there's also talk about, you know, it's AI taking over current jobs.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, AI is automated in everything, so the regular jobs that we have today are gonna be taken away.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm, you know, when it comes to optimization and effectiveness, wonderful.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: But at what scale is this gonna happen?
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_00: Is it really serving us fully?
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, at what scale, you know, AI is really infiltrating our lives?
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, well, we have to wear like, you know, these glasses or chips, like there's that, you know, of course, agenda to make everything so digital.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: And the transhuman timeline is very real.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we've seen it in the movies, we've seen Terminator, and we know different apocalyptic timelines that can happen.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I know many of us, those who are weakening, we remember those timelines from Atlantis with things didn't go well for us because we didn't put those controls in place.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: So that's where we have to take a stance.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_00: We have to create a timeline that is much more aligned.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_00: Will AI be part of it?
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_00: That is up to us to choose.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: I feel it will always be present, but we have to put some guardrails and at the end of the day, really go always back to ourselves, like not fully trusted.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the decision-making part of whatever we do with AI has always to come back to the human.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_00: Because if we just you know let it rule, AI.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: If we I don't know if you're a Star Trek fan, if we learn anything from those movies, and I don't those the Borg, which is the AI hive mind, it tends to assimilate, it tends to consume fully and and take over consciousness, and that's where those guardrails really need to be in.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why I think in the Dramada and Sirius and other places, they have organic AI, not digital AI that we have today.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: So those guardrails are in place.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_01: I can feel like they are here to help teach us how we can create organic AI because our mind is what is creating everything, it all begins and ends with mind.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: Mind is the the most powerful um technology, or it is mind consciousness, or whatever you'd like to call it, it is so powerful.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so where we focus it is where we we send light, and then light creates so I feel like we can create zero point energy.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like we can create um organic technology like our beautiful star families are doing, and I feel like they're here to guide us, but uh it's not it hasn't landed yet into our minds, like we've got such great um minds.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: So many people are so so expansive in in what they're creating, but it if they're in not in like complete wholeness inside themselves, our star families won't give them the codes to create.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_01: So, because it has to be with those guardrays, it has to be in the correct frequency, and that's what we're working towards.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we're doing here with this great awakening and the ascension.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: We are doing it, we are definitely raising the frequency, we are quantum leaping, we're shifting, and we are creating this whole new human, this whole new reality and new earth, and it's amazing.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the other word that comes to mind is sovereignty, like in this whole evolution of consciousness, whether through AI on other ways, like for us, it's important to understand where the boundaries are and to come into that embodiment as we talked about, into that sovereignty, into that freedom within ourselves and acceptance of selves.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_00: And so then if we use sovereign being, then you, you know, there's no um fear anymore of like, you know, AI assimilation or any of that, because you're very, you know, grounded in in who you are.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think where the mind control can happen is when you you're not in that place.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, as we know, not everyone in that vibrational level yet.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's moving really fast.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I believe next five years and more, we're gonna see huge technological innovations and just you know, propelling, but maybe too fast, as I said.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_00: This is where like we kind of got to press a little bit on the brakes here, and at the same token, as we have an AI, there's a lot of talk now with quantum computing.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_00: And quantum computing, I believe, is more the organic path.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of about the quantum.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_00: Quantum computing essentially is multidimensional, so it can calculate so much data just like we do in our mind.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_00: The only difference is, I don't know if you've seen the new quantum computers, if you have a tiny little qubit, which is a little chip, you require almost a room-size um equipment that will cool it down because again, it overheats.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_00: So interesting because we are quantum computers all the time in our mind and we don't need to cool it down.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_00: So they yet to figure out how to do it.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: But I think eventually when they figure that out, that is gonna also open a whole new realm of possibilities.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: There is a bit of fear around, like, you know, if if you quantum computing, it can like hack all the security passwords, everything, because now again, how do you control this thing?
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: Quantum computing and AI, I believe, are two different technologies.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_00: I do feel quantum computing is more of that multidimensional way that will help us to also move forward.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think we're gonna step more into quantum medicine, into the quantum technology that I mentioned, some of the really cool devices that come into the marketplace, some of the things we're gonna involve in where we're gonna create this new harmonious spaces and new harmonious ways of doing things.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: But it is interesting to see where it's all gonna converge.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I agree with you, we are getting guided as much as we ready to listen.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the problem is the people who are doing and running these things are not always listening, and uh, and even Elon Musk, he you know, he's worrying about the the speed it's moving at.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_00: And actually, Elon Musk, of course, he doesn't remember, but he's Andromeda's.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_00: So he has had those experiences, and I think he deep down knows um that you know guardrails need to be put in place.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and that's why he wanted to control in some ways, because he knew it's gonna happen regardless.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: But how it's navigated, um, we'll see.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: We we are, I think, real time making those decisions as well, uh, how we want this reality to look like.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's gonna be different, I believe, the reality bubbles happening simultaneously.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_00: And we'll see.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_00: Some people talk about bifurcation, I think it's more like trifurcation.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_00: There will be these different branches of reality where there's gonna be more AI.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_00: Some people will revolt and you know, go live in communities in Costa Rica and Nicaragua with less AI, and somewhere in between we'll find our way.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_01: What whatever we're in resonance with is what we're creating in our own reality, in our own experience.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_01: And there could be so many different experiences all existing at the same time.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_01: It totally does work.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, could you share what is quantum medicine?
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, quantum medicine, I believe, is like today we go to the doctor and we get him prescribed drugs and medicine that is supposed to just, you know, maybe help you heal that specific, you know, wound, I would say, or put a band-aid on it.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't really look at the totality of who you are.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: But if we are light and we are frequency-based, then we need to heal ourselves with frequencies.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_00: We just have to shift frequencies.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: And using quantum devices, it's all frequency technology, it's a quantum medicine, I call it, because it's not, you know, trying to suppress some areas of the body, the opposite, it's trying to bring it back into coherence, into unification, in allowing the whole ecosystem to remember how to be together.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know, when, for instance, even light language, that's multidimensional quantum medicine, because when you channel any type of energy, so Natalie, as you bring in your energies, the person, the nervous system quiets down, it settles in, it rests, it goes from fight and flight into parasympathetic, it starts reconnecting, the cells activate the mitochondria, which is the organelle in the cell.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's what produces ATP, which is energy in the body.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_00: Many of us actually have mitochondria that is not, it's a bit dysfunctional.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's you know, it just got depleted.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of mitochondria, it's like the power cell of a whole system.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_00: And just like we, you know, how we have phones, and sometimes they run into like the 20% zone and you have to plug it in.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: Same with us.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like we have we have to support these bodies, we have to allow energy to happen.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_00: But mitochondria, what's interesting, it's very multidimensional.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_00: So when we feel energy, that's mitochondria, actually, that is reaction first.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like when we have those standing hairs or like this aha moments, that's every cell is like feeling that it just knows, like it knows frequency.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I believe we're gonna move and shift more and more into this type of technology, which is, I believe, the right way of healing.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's not about just you know giving a drug and suppressing that.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like let's address the whole ecosystem, let's bring it back into alignment, let's allow it to remember what it feels like to be in alignment.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then the rest of the body already knows what to do.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_00: When it has energy, it knows how to heal, it knows how to recalibrate.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_00: I've been on these Andromeda ships where they had these kind of pods and you lie in them and they just like you know, recalibrate you.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes the whole ship would be like turned off for a period of time.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like the ship is resting, and all the beings are resting, recalibrate, rejuvenate, resetting the whole, you know, uh biological system in the vessel, and then they like turn back on.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's what's possible for us.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think the medbeds are here already.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_00: I know we've been working on some red light technology and others, and that and that's just going to continue progressing.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love it because I'm so passionate about teaching Reiki and Rey's universal keys energy.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: I I love I love Reiki with all my heart because it's it is this pure light that channels and moves through us, and it's abundant and infinite.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_01: And then you you you lay your hands on a person or you send it remotely.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I I've been working with it for years, uh 20-something years, and I've seen time and time again, people have huge shifts and recalibrations, and and so yeah, it's it's like ancient wisdom that's like now with new language.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_01: So Reiki is quantum medicine.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_00: I started my journey with a lot of the frequency.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm also a Reiki master, like back in my 20s.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's where I really felt my first Reiki initiation, is when I felt energy, and I was like, whoa, like what's happening?
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_00: So that was like the beginning of my path.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: I think now for me, it just I moved out of the Reiki symbols into the light language, which is very like channel in the moment.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_00: So it's I'm no longer just using that, but it's all essentially the same.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's all ray, it's all key, it's all energy, it's kundalini, it's everything.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's like back to the light and back to the quantum, right?
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then how can technology support us?
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, how can you have like some devices in your space that create more harmony to your body and then just like support the work you're doing already?
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_00: So it amplifies.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_00: So when I have my kundalini classes, whether online or in person, I'm just like setting up the quantum devices around me because they hold the container in the space for the work that I'm already doing and just supporting me more, and it just becomes even stronger.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_00: So, but yeah, it's it's this is the future I believe for all of us and to live in this more harmonious way.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um kundalini, because I've had experiences with kundalini, and maybe um anyone here in the audience, they don't know first of all what kundalini is, and they don't know what a kundalini experience is.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_01: If you could chat with us about that, and also if you could talk about um like distinguish between like a healthy awakening or um like a spiritually overwhelming kundalini experience.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, great questions.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_00: So, for those who don't know, so kundalini is the primordial life force, it's uh it's the energy that's within us, and as many know, we have you know seven chakras in the body, the primarily ones, but we also have chakras of that body.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_00: So that this life force energy is usually kind of sitting at the root, uh, the base of the spine, and and often it's dormant.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_00: So the idea is to activate this energy, and when you have it activated, it gives you more energy in general in your field.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it makes you more expensive.
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I believe it's very important in this lifetime to activate your kundalini because it's also fuel for your markabaf, uh for your consciousness, for your soul as you exit out of this reality as well.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: This is important to make choices in where we exit.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_00: So we're not coming back into the reincarnation loop.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_00: We get to maybe, you know, merge back to the higher self or go to other star systems or whatever.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's essential fuel within us, and so often enough it's dormant.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so we get to, you know, so it's it's the Shakti energy, it's the the quality divine feminine energy, and then you have the Shiva, the cosmic energy, which is the positive energy.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_00: I do what's called kundalini activation, so it's the feminine way, but it's very gentle.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's like when I'm doing my activations, usually on the portal day.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: We just had one on 7-7 and like 6-6.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I like the portal days because it's just more energy, the transmissions available.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_00: 7-7 was the serious frequencies, they were really beautiful.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm I'm essentially pumping the positive energy and the cosmic positive energies, reminding the negative energy how to come up.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_00: And often in the Hindu traditions and other traditions, you see yoga traditions, you see these two snakes starting to move through the chakras and they come up through the chakras into your third eye and kind of merge together.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_00: And as they merge together, this lotus flower, the crown chakra opens up.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_00: And this energy is kind of cyclical, or you can see it like toroidal going up and down, but it's more than just that, that's just its main pathways.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_00: It starts one starts activating, it just moves through your whole body in different types and spirals.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_00: You feel it in in your fingers, it tingles, it can be like jerks of energy.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_00: So it's really our somatic intelligence and activates.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you know, people kind of go into these waves, they're spontaneous, and you surrender into that experience, into that Shakti energy.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_00: People feeling heat because as it rises, it's life force energy.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_00: The cosmic energy is usually cold.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_00: The positive, the positive one, the negative is like it's like Shakti.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_00: She's moving through like these snakes that they're burning through the densities, they're burning through the blockages that are within our field, so we can be that.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_00: Rainbow light.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_00: And so great question about do it gently versus non-gently.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_00: So there's of course other methods.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_00: There's like kundalini yoga, a lot of like you know, breath work and kind of pushing your body, doing a lot of repetitions to activate that energy.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_00: I really like the gentle way, the feminine way, because it's it's subtle, it knows how much the person is ready for.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't just activate them too fast.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you do get activated too fast, it's it's like the flat gates open.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_00: All of a sudden it's too much energy, and like you can't control it, and you're jerking around.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_00: Eventually you ground and the tune.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_00: My first kundalini full activation was in 2011.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_00: I was working with this beautiful man, Patrick Zealer, and he did some Egyptian reiki, it's Sakem energy, and he activated my kundalini.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_00: And this was in Madrid.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_00: I was like the only girl who's you know from US.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember I was standing there, so much energy coming out of me.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't control it for like two hours.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_00: I was jerking on the floor for other five hours, and then it took me another month to like even like walk normally and like holding and grounded.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_00: It might be too much for the psyche as well, when it's just like eruption of energy, and all of a sudden you're so sensitive to everything.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it opens all your pathways or all your channels, and that's why I believe gentle kundalini activation sessions are much better because it's not, you know, you only take as much as you're ready.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_00: And it's all about capacity, right?
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_00: So it's energy times capacity divided by resistance.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_00: So that's back to surrender.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's like the more you surrender deeper into it, the more you release the resistance, then more energy can go through you, rise through you, and then your capacity to hold that light increases as well.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's very important to learn how to hold the light, and that's why I sometimes use sacred geometries, um, like octahedron of light and different uh geometries you can build in your body.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because ultimately, with that too, we are geometries, right?
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_00: Beyond this body, and we have different geometries that are around us.
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why you know some people really scared of it.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, oh, but Kundalini activation is not safe.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's not safe.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's just we heard stories where people activate too fast and and and maybe pushed it too fast.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so and that's where it just took them longer to integrate.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's really about integration that matters.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's so true.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the first time I had a kundalini experience, it was during a breath work exercise.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_01: I had no idea this was going to happen to me, and I went boom, straight to the angels, straight to high frequency.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_01: My whole body was pulsing with light, and my whole body was shaking and everything, and and I was just absolutely blown away from it.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, I I feel like the way I teach, um, like Reiki, because I feel like Reiki is a portal for the kundalini, and actually, some I think it's in my masters that I teach.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there's a few practices along the way, but especially with the masters where you surrender.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_01: I teach an ancient practice called Reikiundo, which went underground because someone hurt themselves, and and it's it's through its breath, and it's like certain movements, and um, and I I the way I teach is I say to my students, you feel it out.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_01: You can either go fast or you can go slow, but you choose.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I see some of my students will then go fast and they'll have the full on, and others will go slow and they'll have the gentle, but like, guess who's in in control?
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_01: You are, we each are, and so it's just exciting because it's available to everyone, and like the breath and the movement is the key to experiencing it, yeah.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's so beautiful to see people I say, like pop because in my classes, sometimes the energy comes online and light language comes along with it too, because now they hear in the codes and it's reactivated and they channels, and now they realize, oh, it's available for me too, and it's all happening, and it's just so beautiful to you know be a witness of it, the supportive facilitator of that experience, and that's the embodiment part, right?
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_00: We can talk about it, but really I truly believe in experience itself because the framework is important.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_00: But like when you in that journey yourself and you allow yourself to unpeel these layers of yourself, I call it like the onion, the energetic onion.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_00: And each time we remove a layer and then tears are coming, and and essentially you feel in bliss at the end of it.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_00: When you reach, you know, the celestial realm, the samathi, the states of unity, it's just a beautiful cosmic bliss that you can't explain.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_00: And these jerks of energy, yeah, they in some ways they're recalibrating because the body coming into alignment, like the somatic system knows what to do.
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_00: And and the jerks of energy is just because there's also a lot of vibration.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's like we tune in the whole vessel to that vibration, and and then you it's like cosmetic orgasm, like you in it full on, and it's so beautiful to experience it.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_00: And the chakras essentially facing uh forward, but when you go into the kundalini channel, so it's like the snakes I was talking about, ultimately they come into Shushum Nanadi, which is the central channel, and when you're in the central channel, all the essentially chakras they go vertical, they stack up and they become that one channel.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_00: So now your true conduit instrument of light, and that's what you get to experience.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's a lot of fun uh to facilitate and be in it yourself.
• 1:11:49
  SPEAKER_00: I I love anything to do with kundalin because I feel that's when you really truly alive and you you are energy, you are Shakti, you are all of it.
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you and you shed layers so quickly as well with it.
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's powerful.
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I I am so appreciative.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm loving our conversation, but I'm also like aware that it's almost time to come to a close.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_01: So um I just keep getting a message from my angels and and Octurians saying that Deanna's got one more thing to share about galactic.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, so you've got something else to share about our galactic star families, the lineages, connecting, remembering, and I feel like you are so connected to them, and you're helping us to feel all of their support.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_01: So, whatever it is that Octurians and angels are telling me I need you to give you the space to speak, the space is now yours.
• 1:12:49
  unknown: All right.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, as I'm tuning into it, I'm like, what do they want to uh talk about?
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think I want to talk about the primordial energies, the primordial energies outside actually of the galaxy, and who are we are in essence.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_00: I started talking about like where we are celestial, and I'm noticing that a lot of the true energies everyone is coming into, uh the dragon self or the phoenix self, these they kind of these inter, I don't even know, interdimensional, intergalactic, interuniversal energies that um they protect us, but they're very powerful.
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I carry a lot of the phoenix energy, so it's very much like this dance between the phoenix and the dragon, the masculine and the feminine.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and I'm in a divine union with my uh with my partner, we've been together for 10 years, and you've met her Daniel, and and I'm the Phoenix, and he's the dragon, and we kind of you know dance that dance of these energies of um of creation, and so I think the message they want for me to remind you all that you have those energies.
• 1:14:04
  SPEAKER_00: So if you really go outside of the galaxy and feel into your maybe dragon self or your phoenix self, and when it comes to that embodiment, remember the phoenix.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_00: I have her like on the cover of my book, it's like awaken the phoenix within.
• 1:14:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's that powerful energy, kind of like Kundalini, where you merge into the fire and you release in all of those old paradigm aspects of self, things are not serving you any longer, and you merge in out of the fire as this new version of yourself, much more empowered, much more resilient, much more sovereign.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I think where we are right now, these energies are asking us to step into this energy of the Phoenix to transmute, transform into this next version of ourselves.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_00: And you get to decide as a creative being, what does that look like for you?
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_00: But we are leveling up now and we are going through this process of resurrection.
• 1:15:05
  SPEAKER_00: And resurrection was really taught in mystery schools.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like we had all these rituals where we go into these chambers, dark chambers, and we would just sit in that zero point, we connect to the cosmos, and we emerge after three days, or how many days, as next version of us.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I think as we're recording this, the next big gateway is gonna be on Lions Gate, which is on eight.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_00: And uh the messages I've been receiving that on eight.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_00: So we are going through this influx point of clearing, clearing, clearing, there's a lot of clearing heart activation.
• 1:15:49
  SPEAKER_00: I've been noticing in June happening for people, pineal gland activation, clearing all these distortions so we can step into that more embodied Phoenix Dragon self.
• 1:16:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, incredible! Thank you.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for everything that you've shared with us today.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um one last question.
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_01: If anyone wants to connect with you, where's best that they can?
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the best is to come to my website.
• 1:16:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's DianaDevine.com.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, Diana spelled is Diana Dia Nadevine.com.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_00: My school is there.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh be like Quantum Academy.
• 1:16:32
  SPEAKER_00: I offer quantum healing practitioner certification course.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_00: The next cohort is opening in September.
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_00: There's different classes you take, activating uh source light language, and um yeah, come to my kundalini master classes.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_00: So there's different ways of connecting with me, and also on Instagram, I post almost daily about like energy updates like what's happening cosmologically, what's all the flares happening?
• 1:16:57
  SPEAKER_00: So you also tune in.
• 1:16:58
  SPEAKER_00: Where are we right now in Schuman Resonance?
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_00: And that's my Instagram is at uh Diana MDivine, or come to my YouTube where I have my podcast, Soul Communication.
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's also at Deanna MDivine, and I would love to connect with you.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 1:17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you are such a beautiful being on earth, and I'm so appreciative.
• 1:17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Natalie, thank you for all the work you doing and for all the light you hold in for others, and yeah, and it's all we all co-creating together this beautiful container of light, and I really appreciate all of it, you know.
• 1:17:34
  SPEAKER_00: We we all doing it for each other, and I would love to see you, Natalie, on my show as well.
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_00: So that would be beautiful.
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_01: That would be wonderful, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, thank you, and thank you everyone who's been tuning in.
• 1:17:50
  SPEAKER_01: Let us know where you're at right now, how you're vibrating, what you're sensing, and what you're excited about from this conversation.
• 1:18:00
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you truly for being here.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Namaste.