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Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 12-15-25 Hour 2 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Audio Hours

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  Speaker 3: Alright, well, here we go, ladies and gentlemen, Hour number
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  Speaker 3: two War Zone. Wayne is off. Maybe back tomorrow. Should
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  Speaker 3: be back tomorrow. I shouldn't say maybe we'll be back tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: great radio stations from one coast to another. And I
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  Speaker 3: felt like we needed to really really hit a home
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  Speaker 3: run tonight, so we banged out three guests. So we
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  Speaker 3: had Hans Desbain just on with US economics professor over
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  Speaker 3: at UMass Amherst. A little later on, we have an
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  Speaker 3: author and another professor joining us. At the bottom of
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  Speaker 3: this hour, and right now we are being joined by
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  Speaker 3: Ben Proto, who is the chairman of the Republican Party
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  Speaker 3: in the state of Connecticut, but he's also the newly
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  Speaker 3: appointed budget chair for the Republican National Committee. So Ben,
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  Speaker 3: good evening, Tanks for coming on. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Hey me, how you doing. It's good to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate we were just talking to each other.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. I mean Ben's on with me once a
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  Speaker 3: week and it's always by phone. So now we get
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  Speaker 3: a chance to look face to face on some of
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  Speaker 3: this stuff. So let me thank you. A financial question
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  Speaker 3: to start with before we get into some of the
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  Speaker 3: other stuff. How do you see the party's financial strategy
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  Speaker 3: evolving to support candidates in the twenty twenty six mid terms,
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  Speaker 3: especially in battleground type states. What do you think is
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  Speaker 3: going to happen?
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  Speaker 4: We just had our budget meeting last week to put
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  Speaker 4: together the twenty six budget for the RNC, and we're
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  Speaker 4: looking right now we have more money cash on hand
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  Speaker 4: at the RNC than the DNC, the D Triple C,
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  Speaker 4: and the d and the Democrawt Senate Committee combined. Just
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  Speaker 4: the rn C, never mind the NRCC or the nrsc
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  Speaker 4: our sister committees, So we have more money in the
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  Speaker 4: RNC than the three of them combined. Cash on hand.
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  Speaker 4: Our fundraising has exploded this year. We expect it's going
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  Speaker 4: to explode next year. We just put a budget together
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  Speaker 4: that is primarily focused on funding the states and our candidates.
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  Speaker 1: There was an argument before the Supreme.
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  Speaker 4: Court this past Tuesday that we're waiting on a decision
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  Speaker 4: for which, if it goes in our favor, will unleash
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  Speaker 4: even more money from the RNC into and state parties
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  Speaker 4: into candidates, which will remove the coordinated expense limits that
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  Speaker 4: currently exists that we can spend on federal candidates. But
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  Speaker 4: we've budgeted a substantial amount of money for our state
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  Speaker 4: parties and for our candidates across the country. We are
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  Speaker 4: committed to holding the majority in both the House and
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  Speaker 4: the Senate and making Donald Trump a four year president
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  Speaker 4: not a two year president.
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  Speaker 3: Is that normal the money disparagy of disparity with the
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  Speaker 3: Republicans and the Dems, or is that something out of
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  Speaker 3: the blue.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little out of the blue. Look.
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  Speaker 4: The party in power always obviously has better fundraising advantages
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  Speaker 4: than the party out of power. But the Democrats, as
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  Speaker 4: you know, when Kamala Harris ran Last year, she raised
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  Speaker 4: or combined with the other parties. Her parties raised about
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  Speaker 4: three billion dollars and ended up twenty million dollars in
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  Speaker 4: the hole, which they're still trying to pay off.
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  Speaker 1: We have really raised a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of money during the twenty four cycle again in twenty
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  Speaker 4: five with the help of President Trump and JD. Vans
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  Speaker 4: are our vice president finance share of the RNC. So
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  Speaker 4: we're in really great shape and I think we're ready
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  Speaker 4: to compete across the country to hold the majority of
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  Speaker 4: the House.
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  Speaker 3: In the Senate, Kamala should ask the Somalis in Minnesota
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  Speaker 3: to lend her some money.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, they have a couple of billion
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  Speaker 4: dollars that her vice presidential candidate helped get to them.
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  Speaker 4: You know, just a few dollars here and there that
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure they can spare.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, why not give it to her?
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  Speaker 2: Hey?
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  Speaker 3: I So with Trump's the administration, his recent policies on immigration,
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  Speaker 3: border security security, you can see that that's gaining traction.
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  Speaker 3: I know there's pushback in some places, there's people who
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  Speaker 3: are protesting Ice. It was even you know, a potential
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  Speaker 3: terror threat that was going to go after Rice But
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  Speaker 3: you know, do you think that Republicans can draw from,
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  Speaker 3: let's say, the experience with some of these sanctuary cities
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  Speaker 3: when you know, here in Connecticut, the sanctuary city situation
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  Speaker 3: and the ice situation is horrible. But do you think
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  Speaker 3: other states can draw from that chaos and use it
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  Speaker 3: when they campaign?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 4: You know, when we look at where we were under
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  Speaker 4: Joe Biden and where we were today and where we
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  Speaker 4: are today, in the first ten months of President Trump's administration,
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  Speaker 4: there's been about one hundred and seventeen thousand border encounters.
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  Speaker 1: That's darting the first ten months.
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  Speaker 4: Under Joe Biden, they averaged about one hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 4: seven thousand a month, So the reduction is substantial. We
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  Speaker 4: also know that when you have sanctuary cities, what happens?
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  Speaker 4: Will illegal immigrants figure out, Hey, I can go to
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  Speaker 4: these cities and I can be protected. And when you
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  Speaker 4: see that happen, what happens? You see murder rates go up,
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  Speaker 4: you see violent crime rates go up, you see housing
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  Speaker 4: costs go up, you see taxes go up. Why because
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  Speaker 4: those cities are usually funded either through the city or
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  Speaker 4: through the state, or both through the counties in those
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  Speaker 4: states of deaf counties where they're funding progress or illegals,
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  Speaker 4: and it's costing taxpayers more money to do that. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's an opportunity for Republicans to make that
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  Speaker 4: case of that. When you have sanctuary cities, it drives
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  Speaker 4: cost up, it drives crime up, it drives more problems
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  Speaker 4: up in those cities, which you have to then pay
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  Speaker 4: more to counter, and it becomes a very vicious circle
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  Speaker 4: where the only people who truly lose are the taxpayers.
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  Speaker 3: Ben Proto is the chairman of the Republican Party is
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  Speaker 3: also the newly appointed budget chair for the Republican National
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  Speaker 3: Committee Economic Issues. We were just talking a little bit
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  Speaker 3: about the economy with my last guest, and you know, inflation, energy,
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  Speaker 3: independence of you know, high cost of just life in general.
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  Speaker 3: Is I think it's just soul sucking.
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  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't feel like it's come down and you know,
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  Speaker 3: the midterms, it's always blamed the person in power, but
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this is obviously any economic strife that
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  Speaker 3: we're feeling is prior to President Trump. So how do
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  Speaker 3: you how do you navigate that again for the twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty six election cycle?
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  Speaker 4: Again, Lee, when we look at where we are under
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  Speaker 4: you know, Joe Biden, Americans lost about twenty nine hundred
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  Speaker 4: dollars a year and purchasing power. Under Donald Trump, they've
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  Speaker 4: gained back and they got about seven hundred dollars more
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  Speaker 4: now in purchasing power than they had. When we look
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  Speaker 4: at housing costs, housing costs are on the rise under
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  Speaker 4: Joe Biden. They're coming down under President Trump. We're seeing
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  Speaker 4: interest rates come down. When interest rates come down, a
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  Speaker 4: couple of things happen. Mortgages become more available, The American
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  Speaker 4: dream becomes more attainable.
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  Speaker 1: That's all because of what President Trump has put in place.
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  Speaker 4: And when we look at the big beautiful bill, where
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  Speaker 4: we're not taxing tips, we're not taxing overtime, there's no
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  Speaker 4: tax on Social Security, or the six thousand dollars a
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  Speaker 4: person tax deduction, twelve thousand dollars if you're married, if
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  Speaker 4: you're sixty five or older. All of those things are
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  Speaker 4: going to drive economic power for individuals. There are going
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  Speaker 4: to be people in this country who are going to
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  Speaker 4: get tax refunds who've never gotten a tax refund in
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  Speaker 4: their life because of Donald Trump's big beautiful bill that
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  Speaker 4: we're put in place by the Republicans. And it's important
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  Speaker 4: to remember as well that a lot of what drives
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  Speaker 4: this is our healthcare costs. And we're looking at you know,
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  Speaker 4: right now, you know, we're in the argument over the
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  Speaker 4: extension of the COVID era subsidies that the Democrats put
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  Speaker 4: in place without a single Republican vote and put an
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  Speaker 4: end date on December thirty first to twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: But now they're trying to blame the Republicans for what
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  Speaker 4: they did. And what we're seeing now are states. So
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  Speaker 4: we're seeing it here in Connecticut. Our own governor says, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to put seventy million dollars in to help
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  Speaker 4: people pay their healthcare premiums because they lost their COVID subsidies.
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  Speaker 4: It's just a ridiculous argument that the Democrats make that
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  Speaker 4: the way to solve the economic problem is by putting
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  Speaker 4: taking more money from taxpayers and putting more money into
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  Speaker 4: programs that produces zero economic games for people, for citizens
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  Speaker 4: of the state in this country.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you know you said that, because
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  Speaker 3: I've been screaming about that very issue for forever, but
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  Speaker 3: in particular the last couple of months because again, we
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  Speaker 3: all feel for people, and we all want to have people,
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  Speaker 3: you know, not have the hardship of life that some
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  Speaker 3: people get. And we would love it if everybody had
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  Speaker 3: health insurance. But I don't want to pay for somebody
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  Speaker 3: else's ben I'm sick of it. And you know, he
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  Speaker 3: takes the seventy million dollars and we're talking about Lamont
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  Speaker 3: and he again it goes to the subsidies. So now
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  Speaker 3: people get lower price of health care. My healthcare is
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  Speaker 3: still very high, you know. I just I feel, like
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  Speaker 3: I said today, it's like squeezing an orange until there's
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  Speaker 3: absolutely nothing left. That's what is happening, I think to
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  Speaker 3: the middle class class in some states across the country.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely And look when you look at the Democrat policies
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  Speaker 4: and Republican policies, Democrat policies are about handouts.
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  Speaker 1: Republican policies are about hand ups, which I.
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  Speaker 4: Think we can all agree that there are people in
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  Speaker 4: the world, in particularly in this country, sometimes need a
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  Speaker 4: hand up and a helping hand, and that's fine, we
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  Speaker 4: have no issue with that. But when you continue to
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  Speaker 4: give people free stuff, which they for lack of a
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  Speaker 4: better term, is what it is, you're giving them money
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  Speaker 4: to buy healthcare that you and I are paying for
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  Speaker 4: for them, plus have to pay for our own. Then
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  Speaker 4: you get caught in that vicious cycle. And so what
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  Speaker 4: you know, and we look at what President Trump has done.
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  Speaker 4: He's lowered drug costs, he's lowered healthcare costs. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he's lowered mortgage rates, he lowered interest rates. He's begun
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  Speaker 4: to drive down the costs that Americans are paying for
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  Speaker 4: everyday items. And yes, it's taking some time to get there.
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  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, we live in a world
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  Speaker 4: of instant gratification unfortunately, but I think when we get
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  Speaker 4: to the to the election cycle next year, we're going
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  Speaker 4: to see those costs come down, and the economic issues
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  Speaker 4: that you're talking about are going to be the very
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  Speaker 4: thing that I think drives a Republican victory in November
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  Speaker 4: of twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: So, Ben PROTI, you just answered my next question. Do
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  Speaker 3: you think that you can buck the trend every single
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  Speaker 3: midterm year? It is not necessarily always a disaster, but
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  Speaker 3: there is always sort of some give back, you yield
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  Speaker 3: some ground. Do you think this year could actually be different?
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  Speaker 4: I do, and I think we're going to see as
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  Speaker 4: we come into next year when a lot of the
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  Speaker 4: Big Beautiful Bill kicks in particul You know, Lee, you
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  Speaker 4: and I are in Connecticut. We're the fourth best state
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  Speaker 4: under the Big Beautiful Bill economically and financially, and people
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  Speaker 4: are going to see huge gains from that. We're going
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  Speaker 4: to see more investment in working capital and business startups.
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  Speaker 1: And what does that mean. That means more jobs.
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  Speaker 4: We've got more jobs with what that means maybe more
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  Speaker 4: wage journeys and more and more salary and wage and
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  Speaker 4: people making a living being able to pay their costs.
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  Speaker 4: We begin to see costs, the grocery costs come down.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully Governor Lamont will be leaving us shortly.
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  Speaker 1: We'll begin to see energy.
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  Speaker 4: Prices coming down here in Connecticut, property taxes coming down.
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  Speaker 4: Those are things that are really driving Those are all
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  Speaker 4: Democrat initiatives that have driven up costs.
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  Speaker 3: Ben, I got to run, but it's been a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun. I appreciate you, and I'll talk to you
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  Speaker 3: again next week.
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  Speaker 1: Anytime, my friend, look forward to it. You have a
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  Speaker 1: good one.
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• 19:55
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• 19:58
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• 20:09
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• 20:16
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• 20:18
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• 20:21
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• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Professor of History, Director of History and Political Science and
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  Speaker 3: Media Studies, and Program Chair Terrorism Studies at Nichols College.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: He's also the author of a brand new book. So, Michael,
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  Speaker 3: good morning, good after, good evening.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: How are you man?
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: Hey, good evening, Lee. Yeah, I'm used to saying good
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: morning to you whenever we chance of talks. But I
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: knew it was different because I have to have a jacket, you.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Have your tie on that we.
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: Are definitely in prime time here.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: It's very very it's a little bit different, very very
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: different actually, as a matter of fact. So listen, I
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: thank you for coming on. I appreciate it very much.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: And you've got a brand new book out, So let's
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: start with that Chasing Bandits. Give me that thirty thousand
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: foot view of what this is all about.
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, right here. I know Hans was showing it before
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: in his in his earlier segment, but Chasing Bandits America's
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: long war on terror. It's it's a case study, as
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: six case studies of these different cases, these different cases
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: in which the United States was pursuing some of these
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: proto terrorists, if you will. These are individuals who the
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: United States was pursuing for one reason or another basically
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: from the turn of the twentieth century up to the present.
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: So I have six examples of this. The last one,
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: of course, is Osama bin Laden. And this book was
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: inspired by an undergraduate course that I teach at Nichols
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: College about the War on Terror, and which the genesis
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: of the class was to try to historicize the twenty
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: first century global War on Terror. And as I was
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: doing research for this class, I came across all these
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: other instances in US history of very similar pursuits of
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: these individuals for similar reasons, who were described in very
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: similar ways. I think the language across these different cases
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: is a thread line among all of them. But real quick,
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: I'll try to give the sixth case studies here. You know.
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: The first is Amelia a Grinaldo in the Philippines, part
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: of the Philippine American War after the United States colonizes
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: the Philippines. I also look at Pancho Villa in Mexico.
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: He stages in a attack on the United States in Columbus,
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: New Mexico in March nineteen sixteen that kills eighteen Americans.
• 25:08
  Speaker 10: And the way in which Pancho Vidia is talked about
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: in the US media, I think is very similar to
• 25:14
  Speaker 10: the way in which Osama bin Ladm has talked about
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: in the twenty first century. There's Augusto Sandino in paragul
• 25:22
  Speaker 10: in the nineteen twenties and thirties, and he was fighting
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: against the presence of US Marines in his country who
• 25:29
  Speaker 10: were there as peacekeepers. I look at Chaikovara in Bolivia,
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: he had resigned his positions with the Cuban government, tries
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: to foment anti capitalist revolutions around the world, first in
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: the Congo, then in Bolivia. Another chapter on Pablo Escobar
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: in Colombia, and he's referred to as a narco terrorist,
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: a term that his backup in the news again today,
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: and then close with Osama bin Laden And the broader
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: point is to show that the global war on terror
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: is really not unique in US history, and I try
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: to make the case that indeed, I think there is
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: a utility to these individuals to try to justify American
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: military engagements abroad.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: So before we get too deep into that, I want
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: to just make sure you can tell everybody where they
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: can get the book before we you know, sort of
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: going a little bit further into what you've written in it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Where do they go?
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: So it's available. It was published with the University of
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: North Carolina Press, so there's the unc press website, but
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: also Amazon, so and it's available pretty much at any
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: kind of fine online bookseller near you.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: And now how do you you weave these all, these
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: these tales all together, these six different stories all together,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: is sort of compare and contrast in that when you
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: are talking about each one.
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: That's right. So I'm trying to tell the stories. Each
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: each of these chapters is a self contained story, which
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: you know, I think as a dramatic narrative to it
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: in the sense that you know, the United States is really,
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: you know, going through significant effort to try to find
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: these individuals, and in some cases these are successful pursuits
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: and in other cases they're not. But I think the
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: way in which these individuals are talked about are very
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: very similar. So for example, if you could transport Osama
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: bin Laden from the twenty first century to the early twentieth,
• 27:42
  Speaker 10: he probably would not be called a terrorist. He'd probably
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: be called a bandit. And conversely, if what Puanchovia did
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: in nineteen sixteen, if he did something like that in
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: the twenty first century, he would be called a terrorist.
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: So I'm trying so I make the case in the
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: book that there is the terminology might be different, but
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: I think the meanings in which these individuals are described
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: is all the same, and I think this helps to
• 28:09
  Speaker 10: justify American incursions abroad and also to bend or break
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: establish rules of engagement to go after these individuals through
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: military means.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Again, Michael Nichol is our guest professor of History Media
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Studies program co chair. He's also Terrorism studies and I
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: want to get into that if you don't mind just
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: a little bit. I know we sort of booked this
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: a while ago, but since then we've had a couple
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: of different acts of terrorism and I wanted to get
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: your general assessment of what happened in Australia and listen,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I know that I talk about this a lot on
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: the air, but it does seem often, Professor, that it's
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: a Muslim fanatic, at Islamic fanatic who causes a lot
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: of death and destruction. In particular, are aiming it at
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: our Jewish friends. So what are your general thoughts about
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: what we witnessed in Australia. Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah, since we last spoke, we've had the shooting in Sydney.
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: ISIS also has UH staged an attack in Syria that
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: killed two US service members, including an interpreter, which shows
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: you that ISIS is still out there. They may not
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: have their so called caliphate anymore, but they have been
• 29:23
  Speaker 10: staging these low intensity strikes all throughout Syria. And yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 10: clearly these are these are tragic and troubling incidents that
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: are going on. I mean one in Australia in particular,
• 29:40
  Speaker 10: it seems like it was a father and son that
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: were involved in this shooting. And I think one of
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: the things too, even more more broadly, you know, to
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: assess or to call something terrorism, it's important first to
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: establish motive. You'll have different definitions of terrorism among terrorism studies, scholars, UH,
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: even within different UH administrations, within the federal government. But
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: I think at root it is is violence or the
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: threat of violence that has a political or social objective
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: to it. So it's to call any act of violence
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: terrorism I think is overinflating. But but that the motive
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: is is crucial here and what it seems like, Uh,
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: what's what happened in Syria targeting uh specifically ah uh
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: Hankkah celebration. Uh, targeting a Jewish community would certainly fall
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: under the definition of terrorism. And the I believe it's
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: the the father was was killed, the son I think
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: was was injured, was wounded and is in a coma.
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: So I think we need to get a little bit
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: more just to to to understand their their motives, what
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: was driving them to do this. By all appearances, it
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: does seem like an active terror to to specifically go
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: after a Jewish celebration. And you know, these things are
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: unfortunately more common in place these days, or at least
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: it certainly seems that way.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to ask you, are they really
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: more commonplace or are we just getting more information because
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: of the Internet. And you know, we haven't even talked
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: about the genocide essentially that's happening in Africa, I mean
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: just about you know, there are thousands and thousands of
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: people being slaughtered in Africa, village by village. They're going
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: and wiping out any Christians that are going on there,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: and that never makes the nightly news. So this is
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: happening worldwide.
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, particularly in Africa. This is where the
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: global war on terror has really extended. The theater of
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: operation isn't isn't obviously Afghanistan anymore. We still have US
• 31:58
  Speaker 10: small contingent of US troops in Iraqi and Syria. It's
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: still in dangerous territory for sure, but seems like Africa
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: is the main theater of operations relative to this global
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: war on terror that is not really talked about in
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: terms of a global war on terror anymore. But we
• 32:17
  Speaker 10: still have US troops stationed around the world to try
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: to tamp down or at least assist local governments to
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: stop these various rebel groups that are popping up all
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: over Africa, including a number of drone bases that the
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: United States is helping out with all across the continent.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Professor, listen, I'm sorry the music is playing. I do
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: gotta go, but I want to give you the opportunity
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: one more time, So Chasing band It's America's long War
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: on Terror is out Amazon. You can get in other places. Professor.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I can't thank you in up, buddy, and we'll talk
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: again very soon.
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: Okay, thanks very much, Lee, have a good night, you.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Got it there it is Chasing Band, It's going and
• 33:00
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• 33:03
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• 33:05
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  Speaker 3: Back officially, Warzone final segment here. Wayne Allen Root will
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  Speaker 3: after hanging out with the President of the United States.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's been Christmas party tonight or yesterday in Washington.
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  Speaker 3: So he'll be back with all kinds of great stories.
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  Speaker 3: wrap it up. I'll stay away from the politics. I'll
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  Speaker 3: let way and take over that tomorrow. You know, every
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  Speaker 3: grand achievement begins with a single simple act, and you
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  Speaker 3: think about the moment you wake up. You have a choice.
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  Speaker 3: You can make your bed or you can leave it unmade,
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  Speaker 3: starting the day with I don't know, maybe a small
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  Speaker 3: surrender to disorder. Or you get up and you make
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  Speaker 3: your bed. That tiny task, taking less than two minutes,
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  Speaker 3: gives you an immediate win. It's your first accomplishment of
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  Speaker 3: the day, a quiet declaration that you are in control,
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  Speaker 3: you are the one calling the shots. It's a sense
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  Speaker 3: of pride. Maybe small, but maybe it encourages you to
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  Speaker 3: do one other tasks and then another and another, and
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  Speaker 3: by the end of the day, that small win has
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  Speaker 3: become a great, big one, setting the tone for productivity
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  Speaker 3: and purpose. And they had attention to detail. It's huge
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  Speaker 3: and I'm you know, obviously making the bed is a tiny,
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  Speaker 3: tiny fraction of this. But the greatest leaders, athletes, innovators
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  Speaker 3: all understood that excellence is built on doing the little
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  Speaker 3: things and doing them well. A perfectly executed pass in
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  Speaker 3: soccer or flawlessly. You're writing a line of code, maybe
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  Speaker 3: a courteous email that you send to somebody. It seems
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  Speaker 3: minor in the moment, but it builds, and neglect of
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  Speaker 3: those things maybe small, but that will begin to crumble
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  Speaker 3: whatever it is that you're trying to accompli and progress
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  Speaker 3: the man's courage. So face your fears head on, lean in, embrace, unleash,
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  Speaker 3: push through resistance, and watch your confidence sore. That is
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  Speaker 3: how you begin the day you make.
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  Speaker 1: The bed right.
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  Speaker 3: No one achieves these these big goals without the little, tiny,
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  Speaker 3: small steps. And you should surround yourself with people who
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  Speaker 3: try to lift you up and not tear you down.
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  Speaker 3: People who challenge you, people who share a vision, the
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  Speaker 3: same vision that you may share, collaborate, listen, support one another.
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  Speaker 3: That's you know, that's how people make their way in
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  Speaker 3: this world and do great things right. Step Backs come,
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  Speaker 3: for sure, failure, criticism, exhaustion, but resilient people forge forward,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, don't let the small losses or laws
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  Speaker 3: in general to fine you. And resilience is non negotiable again,
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  Speaker 3: setbacks come, learn from those losses, adapt, keep moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: Tough times don't define you, but your response to those
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  Speaker 3: tough times do so be great, take risks, step outside
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  Speaker 3: your comfort zone, try new approaches, speak up when you
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  Speaker 3: used to be quiet. Being safe isn't isn't necessarily the
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  Speaker 3: way to go. Dare to stretch it out every moment,
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  Speaker 3: be more of yourself. And you know what, you know
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  Speaker 3: when you're being yourself, it's just a good It's just
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  Speaker 3: a great feeling inside when you don't have to shut
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  Speaker 3: up because you feel like maybe it's not the right
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  Speaker 3: place to say something, but you go ahead and say
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  Speaker 3: it because it's the right thing to do. You feel
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  Speaker 3: fantastic after that, or you do something that makes you
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  Speaker 3: feel fantastic even though maybe you know in the past
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  Speaker 3: you wouldn't have done it. So making your bed isn't
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  Speaker 3: about just being tidy. It's a symbol of self discipline, responsibility,
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  Speaker 3: a commitment to a better life. It reminds you of
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  Speaker 3: what you're capable in this chaotic world. Be that capable person.
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  Speaker 3: That single habit right, that single habit will ripple through
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  Speaker 3: the entire day. I know making your bed seems silly,
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  Speaker 3: but make it. See what happens if you don't do
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  Speaker 3: it normally, See what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Get up, make your bed.
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  Speaker 3: Care for the little things, your habits, your effort, your choices,
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  Speaker 3: and big things will happen. Start tomorrow.
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  Speaker 8: Make your bed all right.
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  Speaker 3: My name is LEEHLSI filling in for the Great Way
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  Speaker 3: Alan Root. I am the voice of Freedom. Wayne'll be
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  Speaker 3: back tomorrow. Thank you to all the boys behind the
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  Speaker 3: Keep listening and watching and enjoying the war Zone until
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