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The DiCecco Daily: More On Eagles Addition Of Michael Carter II, Overall EDGE Depth · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what's happened? Everyone? Welcome into this edition of the
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  Speaker 1: check O Deli.
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  Speaker 2: It's Andrew to Checko here from Inside the Birds dot com.
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  Speaker 2: And while it may be the Eagles bye week, it
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  Speaker 2: is not a bye week for Inside the Birds. And
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  Speaker 2: while I may have taken a little bit of time
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  Speaker 2: for some downtime in the marathon that is an NFL season,
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  Speaker 2: We're getting things ramped back up here with the trade
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  Speaker 2: deadline fast approaching very quickly. I want to give a
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  Speaker 2: shout out to Kevin, one of our loyal listeners, and
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  Speaker 2: he came out to our WBCB show Tuesday last Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: at Chickens and Pete's in Marlton. It was great to
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  Speaker 2: finally meet Kevin and get a chance to chop it
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  Speaker 2: up with them for a little bit. I always appreciate
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  Speaker 2: the support from not onek Kevin, but everyone from the
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  Speaker 2: ITB orbit much appreciated. And another thing that's important to
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  Speaker 2: mention here is that Brandon Graham that two game, which
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  Speaker 2: is really a two week exemption since he joined the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles and signed back, it expires on November third, Monday,
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  Speaker 2: November third, so the Eagles have to make a move
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  Speaker 2: there and activate Brandon to the fifty three man roster,
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  Speaker 2: so keep an eye on that that should be forthcoming.
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  Speaker 1: But let's talk about the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 2: Because the Eagles added cornerback Michael Carter, and some of
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  Speaker 2: my thoughts on that acquisition is that it is and
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  Speaker 2: it's intriguing in the sense that it adds some optionality
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  Speaker 2: to the secondary and you don't want to get too
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  Speaker 2: far ahead of yourselves and just assume that that means
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  Speaker 2: Cooper de Gene will be moving to the outside. Now
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  Speaker 2: that's not to suggest that there won't be matchups or
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  Speaker 2: instances where he will be, and he already is on
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  Speaker 2: the outside in base down situations. But I think Michael
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  Speaker 2: Carter gives them a player that he can play nickel,
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  Speaker 2: he can play safety.
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  Speaker 1: Most of his snaps from his career.
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  Speaker 2: Have come via nickel, and I liked him coming out
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  Speaker 2: of college when he came out of Duke in the
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  Speaker 2: fifth round in twenty twenty one. Obvious ties there with
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  Speaker 2: Joe Douglas, who is no longer there in New York,
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  Speaker 2: but he's in Philadelphia, of course, so there's some familiarity there.
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  Speaker 2: I like the player in the sense that he's pretty
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  Speaker 2: sticky in coverage, he's smart, he hasn't had the I
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  Speaker 2: guess the stats over the last couple of seasons. He
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  Speaker 2: hasn't performed to the standard that he set earlier in
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  Speaker 2: his career. But I think in Philadelphia, playing under Christian Parker,
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles defensive backs coach, and Roy Anderson, the cornerbacks coach,
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  Speaker 2: who I've lauded for their ability to teach and hone
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  Speaker 2: in on the details of the position, the fundamentals, I
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  Speaker 2: think that he could sort of find his way and
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  Speaker 2: redefine himself in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: But you never want to get too carried away.
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  Speaker 2: You look at some past trades that I think some
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  Speaker 2: folks maybe took it a round with it before you
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  Speaker 2: were able to see how they fit into the equation,
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  Speaker 2: like John Metchi or Jacoreyan Bennett.
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  Speaker 1: You have to let things play out a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But he does give the Eagles a player who has
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  Speaker 2: positional versatility and can allow Vic Vanji to do some
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  Speaker 2: things at corner that when you look at what they
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  Speaker 2: have there, they have Jacoryan Bennett coming back, Dori Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: Keiley ring goes there. But if they're not satisfied with
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  Speaker 2: any of their outside corners, it gives them that that
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  Speaker 2: option to move Degene outside and maybe put Carter at
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  Speaker 2: the nickel role, but we have to see how he fits.
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  Speaker 2: He still has to learn the defense. But it's certainly
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  Speaker 2: a low risk move for the Eagles, and it's something
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  Speaker 2: that when you look at Howie Roseman the offseason that
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  Speaker 2: he had, that's a move that kind of aligns with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of what he's done. You're bringing in someone
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  Speaker 2: who has potential upside and it doesn't cost you a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot to bring them in. So we'll see how
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  Speaker 2: that all transpires. But right now, I think you have
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  Speaker 2: to give that trade thumbs up, but be cautious in
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  Speaker 2: how you view Michael Carter and how he fits into
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  Speaker 2: the defense until you see and learn a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more in terms of how Vic Vangio chooses to deploy
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  Speaker 2: him and how that affects the overall complexion of the secondary. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I still maintain that edge rusher is the priority and
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  Speaker 2: going into the trade deadline, if you remember one of
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  Speaker 2: my podcasts, I had my top three areas of need,
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  Speaker 2: at least in my view, and that was edge rusher
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  Speaker 2: at one, reserve, offensive line help, and cornerback at three.
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  Speaker 2: Now reserve offensive line help and expand on this a
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  Speaker 2: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles have proven that they.
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  Speaker 2: Have two players they can count on behind the starters,
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  Speaker 2: and Brett Toth who can kind of do everything, and
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  Speaker 2: Fred Johnson who now has a role in jumbo packages,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's going to continue to expand after
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  Speaker 2: the bye week.
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  Speaker 1: But beyond that, Matt.
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  Speaker 2: Pryor is someone who hasn't met expectations. And if you
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  Speaker 2: plug him in and he's really a right side guy,
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine that you're going to have a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot of confidence that he's gonna be able to go
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  Speaker 2: out there and execute the offense to the point where
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  Speaker 2: there aren't going to be noticeable limitations you have to
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  Speaker 2: take into account when he's on the field, and maybe
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  Speaker 2: you're not able to have the full menual plays at
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  Speaker 2: your disposal. And Drew Kendall, the rookie, isn't someone who
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles seem inclined on getting involved early in the
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  Speaker 2: early in his career, because that's kind of been the
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  Speaker 2: mo for Jeff stoutlind He doesn't like to lean on
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  Speaker 2: rookie offensive linemen, and especially when they drafted Drew Kendall,
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  Speaker 2: it was always my expectation that he was here to
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  Speaker 2: grow and develop behind the scenes and not necessarily be
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  Speaker 2: counted on to be a reserve offensive lineman on game day.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why that's a second priority for me, especially
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  Speaker 2: when you look at the health status. That's sort of
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  Speaker 2: been a prevailing theme for the offensive line throughout the season.
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  Speaker 2: They've been really banged up, and I think that that
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  Speaker 2: should behoove the Eagles to try to address that if
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  Speaker 2: you get the opportunity. Of course, u O Petta, he's
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  Speaker 2: played in thirty eight games for the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Start at ten. I believe he's on the.
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  Speaker 2: Practice squad, So they're trying to find different ways to
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  Speaker 2: add to that group and cost effective measures. But that's
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  Speaker 2: why that's number two for me, and then number three
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they have three players there. They need
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  Speaker 2: to be better at that position. But if you're able
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  Speaker 2: to enhance the pass rush, that alleviates and takes some
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  Speaker 2: of a spotlight off of cornerback two, and the addition
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  Speaker 2: of Michael Carter gives them some more flexibility there. So
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  Speaker 2: that's why that's a little bit further down in the
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  Speaker 2: pecking order. You know, at least in my estimation, Edge Rusher,
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  Speaker 2: that's a group that you would like to see the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles add to, and they do have reinforcements coming in
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  Speaker 2: the in the form of Noan Smith, who is expected
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  Speaker 2: back sometime in November, and I think he did some
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  Speaker 2: really good things in terms of run support, very physical,
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  Speaker 2: he sets the edge with authority. He should be coming
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  Speaker 2: back sometime in November, so that's going to be a plus.
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  Speaker 2: Remember entering the season, he was the headline of this group.
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  Speaker 2: Then you have Brandon Graham. I mentioned about the two
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  Speaker 2: week or two game roster exemption that expires November three.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be back into the mix here and
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  Speaker 2: help the Eagles and add to that pass rush group.
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  Speaker 2: But I still think that they need to add another
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  Speaker 2: player to further enrich it and give them a player
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  Speaker 2: that now allows players like jay loox Hunt to see
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  Speaker 2: a reduction in his snaps and Nolan Smith when he returns,
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  Speaker 2: a reduction in his snaps because injuries have been sort
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  Speaker 2: of a prevailing theme for him and the way that
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  Speaker 2: he plays the game lends itself to being susceptible to injuries.
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  Speaker 2: So I look at a situation like the Miami Dolphins
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  Speaker 2: with Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb. That's an obvious situation
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  Speaker 2: that's not groundbreaking or breaking news. But when you look
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  Speaker 2: at a team like that that's in flux, they don't
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  Speaker 2: have their general manager. I think that that's a situation
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  Speaker 2: that's ripe for a trade, and I look at Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Phillips and Bradley Chubb as two logical fits here in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb not only has experience with Vic Fangio and Miami,
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  Speaker 2: but also dating back to their time with the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: when he was the Broncos head coach.
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  Speaker 1: So he's an older player.
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  Speaker 2: He's suffered a lot of injuries in his career, but
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  Speaker 2: he's been remarkably productive and it probably wouldn't cost all
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  Speaker 2: that much for the Eagles to bring someone like that in,
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  Speaker 2: and that would be a perfect fastball to add to
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  Speaker 2: the contingent of players the Eagles already have. I personally
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  Speaker 2: like Jalen Phillips a little bit more now prior to
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  Speaker 2: this season, and he started all nine games the past
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  Speaker 2: two years. Prior he played a combined twelve games. So
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  Speaker 2: injuries have been something that has hindered his progression in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL, and I think that that's something to be mindful.
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  Speaker 2: But at twenty six years old, three sacks this year,
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  Speaker 2: and he's able to pressure the quarterback. He has a
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  Speaker 2: number of quarterback Hits. I like his bend. I think
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  Speaker 2: he adds much more of a diverse skill set, and
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  Speaker 2: he's younger than Bradley Chubb. But both players come with
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  Speaker 2: injury concerns, injury tags that I think we all should
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  Speaker 2: be mindful of.
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  Speaker 1: I think that that would be a player.
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  Speaker 2: Who might give you a little bit more of a splash,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more of an untapped potential, a higher
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  Speaker 2: ceiling than that of Bradley Chubb. But I don't think
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  Speaker 2: anyone would dispute that either player would help the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: in a tangible way. Now, the name that you hear
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  Speaker 2: a lot now is Miles Garrett, and I think Miles
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  Speaker 2: Garrett is a pipe dream.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pie in the sky, if you will.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the Eagles would do whatever it takes to
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  Speaker 2: bring in a player like that, so would any team,
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  Speaker 2: But it takes two to tango. And if the Browns
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  Speaker 2: are reluctant to part with someone like that who is
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  Speaker 2: a cornerstone piece, even though the Browns aren't necessarily a
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  Speaker 2: good football team, it doesn't seem very likely they'd be
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  Speaker 2: willing to move off of someone like Miles Garrett. But
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  Speaker 2: that's a player that the Eagles have notably had interest
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  Speaker 2: in and every team will when you have a player
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  Speaker 2: of that caliber, but it just doesn't seem very likely.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not to say that should preclude the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: from trying to swing and add another player.
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  Speaker 1: Now. I think there's different tiers to this.
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  Speaker 2: Right if you're the Eagles, you don't want to get
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  Speaker 2: a middling player who's had sporadic production in his career because, frankly,
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  Speaker 2: how much better is that going to help your pass
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  Speaker 2: rush core? How much of an impact is that player
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  Speaker 2: going to make. There's also another wrinkle into this that
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  Speaker 2: everyone should have to everyone should be considering, and that
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  Speaker 2: is when you add a player that also creates a
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  Speaker 2: roster and influx of players there, and it makes you
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  Speaker 2: wonder how they're going to how they're going to figure
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  Speaker 2: this out, because if they add another pass rusher, I
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: know everyone seems to be at least of the assumption
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  Speaker 2: that Patrick Johnson would be the odd guy out. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's also important to note that Vic Vango likes
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Johnson and Patrick Johnson is a very effective special
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  Speaker 2: teamer to me, and this is a player who right
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  Speaker 2: now last week.
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  Speaker 1: Last week learned has a hamstring injury.
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  Speaker 2: He did not play in the Giants game the second matchup,
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  Speaker 2: and that's Azzo Jalari.
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  Speaker 1: That's a player that I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know that you can just assume that he's safe
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  Speaker 2: as the Eagles have to parse through the roster to
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  Speaker 2: bring me in more talent. We also talked about the
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  Speaker 2: players who are coming back and Jacoreyan Bennett who's not
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  Speaker 2: yet on the fifty three, Brandon Graham who's not yet
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  Speaker 2: on the fifty three, and Nolan Smith who's not yet
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  Speaker 2: on the fifty three.
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  Speaker 1: So it wouldn't surprise me.
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  Speaker 2: That if one of those players on the outs or
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  Speaker 2: that are on the fringes, like maybe an aj Diwen,
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  Speaker 2: perhaps an Azzo Jelari or Patrick Johnson, who knows, maybe
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  Speaker 2: an Adore Jackson or a Jacoryan Bennett, if they're players
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  Speaker 2: that the Eagles, and I'm just throwing out names because
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  Speaker 2: you have to start looking at the back end of
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  Speaker 2: the roster and who would be the most more likely
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  Speaker 2: casualties and you could probably see them get creative and
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  Speaker 2: package them in in trades to offload them and create
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  Speaker 2: roster space. Because the Eagles have a really difficult situation here,
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  Speaker 2: and how they're gonna look through comb through the roster
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  Speaker 2: and find players to move off of to create spots
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  Speaker 2: for the three players that I mentioned, and even you know,
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  Speaker 2: an incoming trade candidate, an incoming trade piece if they're
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  Speaker 2: able to execute one. So that would make a lot
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  Speaker 2: of sense. And you're kind of you you're kind of
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  Speaker 2: finding ways to create space by maybe sending another player,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't know, like an AJ Dillon.
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  Speaker 1: You're including him in a trade.
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  Speaker 2: That's one less player that you have to move off
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  Speaker 2: of and create space for if you're Howie Roseman, So
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  Speaker 2: that would that would obviously make a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 2: But it also teams have to need or want that
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  Speaker 2: player or be intrigued by that player. And I think
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  Speaker 2: when you look at that of the players who are
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  Speaker 2: kind of on the fringe that would have that kind
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  Speaker 2: of appeal to the teams.
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  Speaker 1: To me, at least would be an AJ.
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  Speaker 2: Dillon for a running back needy team, or even a
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  Speaker 2: ziz O Laurie. Who knows, we don't know the severity
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  Speaker 2: of that hamstring injury.
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  Speaker 2: And that's something they also take into account that could
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  Speaker 2: also lead to different roster machinations. If that hamstring injury lingers,
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  Speaker 2: or if they have to make a move, like if
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  Speaker 2: that's something that lasts for a longer period of time
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  Speaker 2: or persists, the Eagles may have to put him on
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  Speaker 2: the shelf.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Jilari. So there's a lot of names that you're
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  Speaker 1: hearing right now, and.
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  Speaker 2: I of course the Eagles are going to be aggressive
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  Speaker 2: and active and explore every option that's out there to
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  Speaker 2: fortify the roster. Wouldn't surprise me if they were done,
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  Speaker 2: and it wouldn't surprise me if they were able to
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  Speaker 2: strike on an edge rusher. That would be the position
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  Speaker 2: to keep an eye on. The Eagles prioritize the trenches
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  Speaker 2: that prioritize pass rush, and I think adding another edge
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  Speaker 2: rusher would take some of the pressure off of the
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  Speaker 2: secondary and all of a sudden, you have a defense
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  Speaker 2: that you're able to move forward with. But that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of my thoughts here on this Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 1: Again.
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  Speaker 1: Any questions that you have.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to do a mail bag and be
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: able to delve into different topics this season that maybe
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  Speaker 2: we haven't touched on as much because we have a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more time built in here as we move
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  Speaker 2: forward and the Eagles prepare to face the Green Bay
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  Speaker 2: Packers on November tenth. But for now, that's going to
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  Speaker 2: do it for me. This has been to check o daily.
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  Speaker 2: I am Andrew de Checko and I will catch you
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