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Men are RADICALIZING for no reason, also feminist men are an ick · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 3: and welcome to Honey Badger Radio.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Brian.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here with Allison. And this is our Cozy Gaming
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  Speaker 3: stream where we were looking at a Medium article. Men
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  Speaker 3: are radicalizing for no reason. Also, feminist men are an ick.
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  Speaker 3: And we're going to be looking at an article from
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  Speaker 3: The Fiery Feminist on Medium blog entitled, The men in
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  Speaker 3: my generation are being radicalized. And I'm supposed to date them.
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  Speaker 3: This is probably the most ill-timed article title ever. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I guess you're right.
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  Speaker 2: Articles that did not age well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So you heard about the mistrial?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm aware of the mistrial.
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  Speaker 3: We said that it probably will happen. And I'm not surprised.
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  Speaker 3: There was only one man... There were three men in
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  Speaker 3: the jury. Only one of them refused to budge.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what? Bully on you.
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  Speaker 3: But I think it's endemic of... It's like a metaphor
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  Speaker 3: for society.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just put it that way.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Probably the one single dude on the jury was like, no.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there were three men in the jury. Two of
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  Speaker 3: them caved.
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  Speaker 2: One of them did not.
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  Speaker 4: Two of them caved. I'm just saying that probably married. But... Um,
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  Speaker 4: this is my hypothetical, that it's one single dude who
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  Speaker 4: was the holdout, and who was like, no, we have
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  Speaker 4: to decide this in line with the principles of modern jurisprudence.
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  Speaker 4: And the rest of them were, me og save woman,
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  Speaker 4: like bullshit. And then the females, they always go with
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  Speaker 4: whatever makes them think that they're blameless as a woman. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: this is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, intent is established. She sent him away knowing
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  Speaker 4: that he would stop her. Right? The defense's concluding argument
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  Speaker 4: said that she killed her son first, knowing her son
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  Speaker 4: probably would try to stop her, would fight back. Right?
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  Speaker 4: Once he figured out what was happening. This is a
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  Speaker 4: woman who is evil. And all of these women rallied
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  Speaker 4: behind her because they would prefer to retain their blamelessness
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  Speaker 4: as a woman. Retain being in a position where they
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  Speaker 4: can't be judged. Right? Because that's a relational web thinking.
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  Speaker 4: That's something that the relational web can't tolerate. Right? is
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  Speaker 4: being judged, because that means you don't deserve a position
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  Speaker 4: in the relational web, right? They put that before protecting children.
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  Speaker 4: And unfortunately, at this point in time, I have to
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  Speaker 4: conclude that that is female nature. Women left to their
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  Speaker 4: own devices would rather tolerate child killers child sexual assaulters,
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  Speaker 4: sexual assaulters, killers, abusers, I mean, if they're women, of course,
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  Speaker 4: they'd rather tolerate all of these behaviors in women than
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  Speaker 4: be judged for them. So any society that was constructed
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  Speaker 4: by women would be a society in which every possible
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  Speaker 4: human evil runs rampant And the only thing that's controlled,
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  Speaker 4: the only thing that's judged is whether or not you
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  Speaker 4: point it out, whether or not any particular woman betrays
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  Speaker 4: the sisterhood by saying, hey, these criminal women, you know,
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  Speaker 4: these lesbian batterers and sexual assaulters and these child killers, right,
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  Speaker 4: and child traffickers, they're actually to blame for something. They
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  Speaker 4: should be judged. They should be criminalized. And then the
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  Speaker 4: sisterhood would target that woman. They would execute that woman
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  Speaker 4: for daring to judge another woman and rendering her anything
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  Speaker 4: other than blameless. That's how it would be constructed. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's taken me 26 years to come to this conclusion.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't do it lightly. But this is, and
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  Speaker 4: it is because women's cognitive modality is relational web. They
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  Speaker 4: just don't seem to understand morality the way men do.
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  Speaker 4: Morality is something that comes out of your actions, right?
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  Speaker 4: And if you do not enforce a standard of acceptable
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  Speaker 4: action upon people, you get chaos, you get hell. And
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  Speaker 4: I don't think women understand that on the same level
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  Speaker 4: that men do. They do not understand crime and punishment.
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  Speaker 4: I got into an argument with some woman on Twitter,
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  Speaker 4: and men were saying that this is an argument for
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  Speaker 4: repealing the 19th.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Repealing women's right to vote. If they can make excuses
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  Speaker 4: that their hormones exempt them from responsibility for their actions,
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  Speaker 4: then they cannot be considered to have the same responsibility
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  Speaker 4: as men nor can they have the same citizenship responsibilities
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  Speaker 4: as men, right? And then this woman came in and
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  Speaker 4: she said, but men go out of control. Men do
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  Speaker 4: things that, you know, they do things that take actions
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  Speaker 4: that are criminal. And I said, yes, but other men
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  Speaker 4: hold them accountable, right? If Lindsey Clancy was Leonard, Leonard Clancy, Leonard? Leonard.
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  Speaker 4: I'll go with Leonard. Leonard Clancy. And that was a
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  Speaker 4: jury of 12 men. He would be getting the electric
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  Speaker 4: chair after five minutes of deliberation. Guaranteed. There would be
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  Speaker 4: none of this movement of men for Leonard to be
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  Speaker 4: set free. Oh, he was under stress.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 4: He just... paternal transition, you know, like those hormones. No
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  Speaker 4: man would give him that out. No man would want
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  Speaker 4: to give him that out. There would be no movement
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  Speaker 4: trying to free him from the electric chair. And there
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  Speaker 4: would be no hung jury because it would be a shut,
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  Speaker 4: open and shut case for men if they were punishing
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  Speaker 4: a man in that situation. And what do we see here?
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  Speaker 4: Because it's a woman? Women come out in droves. The
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  Speaker 4: women on the jury don't seem to understand how you
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  Speaker 4: establish intent. This wasn't just a crazy act. It was premeditated.
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  Speaker 4: It was planned. It was not dysregulated. If she put
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  Speaker 4: as much consideration, forethought, into caring about her kids as
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  Speaker 4: she did about caring about arranging their murder, they might
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  Speaker 4: still be alive. You know, she could put a lot
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  Speaker 4: of forethought into killing her kids, but she can put
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  Speaker 4: no forethought into, hey, maybe I'm a little bit over
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  Speaker 4: something here. Maybe I should drop them off with the grandparents.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I should give them to their father. Maybe I
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  Speaker 4: should just, like, you know, let's get a divorce, you
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  Speaker 4: take custody. I can't be trusted. No. She can plan
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  Speaker 4: out their murder, but she can't plan out how to
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  Speaker 4: protect them from her. It's like... Alright, done. I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: There is no alibi anymore. There's none. Guys, you just
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  Speaker 4: have to... This is the group of con now. This
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  Speaker 4: is where you gotta... You've got to go into your primal,
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  Speaker 4: paternal instincts and start asking yourselves, is this something you
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  Speaker 4: can support? Is this a society that you can support?
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  Speaker 4: Because paternal instincts are the oldest ones, right? Oxytocin, the
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  Speaker 4: maternal stuff, that's a derivative of the paternal instinct. And
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  Speaker 4: in fact, there couldn't be maternal behavior without the original
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  Speaker 4: paternal behavior. It's an interesting sequence of evolution. But paternal
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  Speaker 4: behavior is the ancestral protecting the offspring behavior. It is
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  Speaker 4: older than maternal protection. It is older than pair bonding. Right? Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Men's desire to protect their children is older than their
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  Speaker 4: desire to protect women. Start downshifting into that primal behavior, guys.
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  Speaker 4: is a huge mess to clean up. All right, and
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  Speaker 4: speaking of a huge bloody mess. Yep. Here's yet another
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  Speaker 4: woman trying to render herself blameless. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: just explain where the title comes from. She talks about
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  Speaker 4: how men are radicalized, and then she talks about how
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  Speaker 4: feminist men give her the ick. Do you think that
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  Speaker 4: men might have become radicalized because women like you... are
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  Speaker 4: asking for hot ice, able antimatter, a black hole that emits,
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  Speaker 4: like a black hole that doesn't suck things in, it
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  Speaker 4: actually gives you golden puppies. Right, did you consider it?
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  Speaker 4: That your inconsistent, contradictory, insane, and impossible standards are why
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  Speaker 4: men are like, you know what? I don't want anything
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  Speaker 4: to do with you ladies anymore. And also, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the killing kids. Being okay with killing kids. Strangling them
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  Speaker 4: to death. This isn't like a poisoning. It isn't like
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  Speaker 4: she used carbon monoxide. You know? She strangled her kids
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  Speaker 4: to death. Do you know how long it takes to
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  Speaker 4: strangle a freaking human being? Even a child? She was
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  Speaker 4: sitting there for minutes as her children foamed at the mouth, thrashed,
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  Speaker 4: struggled against her, and attempted to try to live. While
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  Speaker 4: she used her greater weight and strength as an adult
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  Speaker 4: to snuff them out one by one. I'm sorry, guys.
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  Speaker 4: If you can look at this society and say, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm still contributing to it, you are the problem. Because
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  Speaker 4: apparently women will not stop this. If this woman strangled puppies,
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  Speaker 4: all of these women would have been out to see
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  Speaker 4: her head. But because it's human children, somehow that... That's okay.
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  Speaker 4: That's acceptable. That's the man's fault. Okay, I gotta stop.
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  Speaker 4: I can't believe that only one person... Only like literally
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  Speaker 4: the course of Western civilization came down to this one man.
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  Speaker 4: And of course they're gonna just do a retrial and
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  Speaker 4: she's gonna get off. She'll get a million bucks. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: you're such a poor dear. Maybe we need to provide
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  Speaker 4: strangulation machines for new mothers. And by new mothers, I
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  Speaker 4: mean mothers who have children all the way up to 35.
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  Speaker 4: Just put your child in the strangulation machine. Let's just
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  Speaker 4: on every block corner. As you're just not okay with
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  Speaker 4: women's rights. You don't want women to be free. You
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  Speaker 4: don't like women. You hate women. Every new mother should
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  Speaker 4: get a strangulation machine for free. Whenever that kid gets
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  Speaker 4: too much, just pop them in. Good Lord. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So you want to do the things before we
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  Speaker 3: get into the article?
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  Speaker 4: That was a long rant. I'm sorry, guys. Oh yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 4: not too chipper about all of this. It's a little
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  Speaker 4: difficult to change gears on the topic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 3: Let's look at this article. So this is a medium blog.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see. You guys, there's no super chats or super
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  Speaker 3: chows yet, but I'm looking out for them.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 3: The men in my generation are being radicalized, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: supposed to date them by the fiery feminist. Andrew Tate
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  Speaker 3: didn't just make incels.
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  Speaker 2: He made my dating life a nightmare.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Um....
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I'm just going to press X the
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  Speaker 3: doubt on the guy actually literally saying.
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  Speaker 2: That men are the more oppressed gender. I don't buy that.
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  Speaker 3: He probably said men also have problems.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's probably if he did indeed
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  Speaker 4: say that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like.
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  Speaker 2: That kind of language is not. I'm not saying it's
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  Speaker 2: not true.
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  Speaker 3: OK, go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: I want to float a hypothesis. She's a ham beast.
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  Speaker 4: He has no interest in her. He just took it
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  Speaker 4: as an opportunity to have a captive audience for like
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  Speaker 4: 20 minutes. And then he made her pay for his
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  Speaker 4: own drink.
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  Speaker 2: Or, you know, he saw her on, what is it,
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  Speaker 2: Hinge or whatever?
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  Speaker 3: Is that what she said?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hinge.
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  Speaker 3: He saw her on Hinge and she had like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: she was like 10 filters deep and the camera angle
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  Speaker 3: was such that it made her look thinner than she
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  Speaker 3: actually was. And on all that, she basically lied in
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  Speaker 3: her bio. And he was like, learning that and was like,
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, Oh no, I'll pay for your food.
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  Speaker 3: But my guess, more, the more likely the most common
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  Speaker 3: answer would be he was probably legitimately interested. She probably like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think a man goes to a date saying,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about men's issues on this date.
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  Speaker 2: I think, I don't think that men do that.
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  Speaker 4: I think that That is like MGTOW level 111.
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  Speaker 3: No, a MGTOW wouldn't even do that. They wouldn't bother.
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  Speaker 3: They would recognize it as a waste of energy.
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  Speaker 2: They wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 3: So what I think happened is that they went on
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  Speaker 3: a date, and of course we don't know for sure,
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  Speaker 3: so take it with a.
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  Speaker 2: Grain of salt, whatever. They went on a date.
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  Speaker 3: She was trying to get to know him, which is
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  Speaker 3: code for she was trying to see if he agrees
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  Speaker 3: with her politically on everything. And to see if there
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  Speaker 3: was going to be any issues because that would make
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  Speaker 3: him a red flag and a no-go. And so she
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  Speaker 3: probably started bringing up some stuff about abortion, Roe v. Wade, Trump, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and he probably lightly pushed back on some
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  Speaker 3: of the excesses of what she was claiming, in particular
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  Speaker 3: how bad women supposedly have it and how good men
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  Speaker 3: supposedly have it. And he was probably like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's that simple. I think that, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's a mixed bag for everybody. Like men have
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  Speaker 3: some issues, women have some issues. And that's a really
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  Speaker 3: milquetoast answer, but if you're on a date with a girl,
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  Speaker 3: you're probably going to give a milquetoast answer if you
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  Speaker 3: don't want to completely compromise your beliefs so that you
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  Speaker 3: can continue talking to them because you've got to meet
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  Speaker 3: people where they're at. So that's my guess, but of
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  Speaker 3: course she is going to have to turn it into
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  Speaker 3: something else. Either that or she never went on a
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  Speaker 3: date in the first place and this whole thing is
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  Speaker 3: fabricated so that she can write this article, which is
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  Speaker 3: also entirely plausible. Cause I've noticed that a lot of
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  Speaker 3: times these medium blogs are not terribly honest.
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  Speaker 2: Um, so yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And if I look at this person's other posts, they're
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  Speaker 3: all feminist posts. So she's probably insufferable in person. Um, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, so.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the thing I keep trying to explain to people
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  Speaker 3: who aren't young, straight women right now.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the thing I keep trying to explain to people
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  Speaker 3: who aren't young straight women right now.
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  Speaker 2: This is not an isolated incident. This is not a.
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  Speaker 3: Series of bad luck dates that I should laugh off
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  Speaker 3: and try again. This is a pattern so consistent, so
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  Speaker 3: well documented, so thoroughly discussed in every group chat that
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  Speaker 3: I'm a part of, that it stopped feeling like dating
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  Speaker 3: and started feeling like a sociological field study I did
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  Speaker 3: not consent to participate in. The men of my generation
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  Speaker 3: are being radicalized, and I'm expected to date them anyway. So,
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  Speaker 3: If you just say, men have problems too, that makes
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  Speaker 3: you radical. Okay. I got a superchow from Gary Thomas.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for five. And he says, I'm sure you
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  Speaker 3: guys have heard of the passing of Gloria Steinem. At
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  Speaker 3: first I was confused because I thought she died years ago,
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  Speaker 3: but then I realized that I was confusing her with
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  Speaker 3: Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Well, here's to Gloria. She left the
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  Speaker 3: world in a worse place than when she found it.
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  Speaker 3: I hope she finds peace in the next life, but
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  Speaker 3: I doubt it. All right, thank you for that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to talk about it on the news show,
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  Speaker 3: I guess. She did her damage.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't Ruth Bader's... Yeah, she did a lot of damage. Well,
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say, didn't Ruth Bader Ginsburg, shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: she at least decide against Roe v. Wade because of
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  Speaker 4: the constitutional problems?
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  Speaker 2: I think she said that it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, she never voted on... She didn't vote on it.
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  Speaker 3: But she did say in interviews that she thought it
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  Speaker 3: was bad law yeah okay she did say it was
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  Speaker 3: bad law but she didn't she wasn't there for the
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  Speaker 3: overturning i don't think i think that was after she.
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  Speaker 4: Passed okay well fair enough well gory estinem yeah that
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  Speaker 4: she's quite a piece of work yeah um And she
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  Speaker 4: popularized a movement that has destroyed the West. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: outright going to say it. I'm not even going to
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  Speaker 4: give any apology for it. If you don't understand what
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about, just keep listening. Feminism destroyed the West.
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  Speaker 4: It isn't just destroying relationships between men and women. I
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  Speaker 4: recently did a... That's a big part of it, but
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  Speaker 4: that's also a symptom. I recently did an analysis... based
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  Speaker 4: on a whole bunch of demographic surveys in the United States,
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  Speaker 4: the women being born, the girls being born currently, based
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  Speaker 4: on my model that I created itself based on the
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  Speaker 4: behavior of marriage formation, cohabitation, how many women are single,
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  Speaker 4: how many women are increasingly single, and fertility of all
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  Speaker 4: of those women those relationship or lack of relationship situations.
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  Speaker 4: And so I created this model. The girls being born
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  Speaker 4: today are probably going to be having less than a half.
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  Speaker 4: Their total fertility will be 0.5 based on what I'm
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  Speaker 4: seeing demographically and the choices that women are making. So
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  Speaker 4: we are a dead civilization. We're just ghosts at this point.
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  Speaker 4: That is our coffin. And feminism did that. And I
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  Speaker 4: have all of the evidence of it. And Gloria Steinem
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: was a huge part of pushing it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: You know, our IPS... But if things don't change, I
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: don't even know if they can change at this point,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: but if things don't change, and I did the mathematics,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: there is no religion, mainstream religion. There is no mainstream
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: political position. There is no mainstream ideology in the manosphere.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: There's nothing mainstream that isn't part of this problem that
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: has a solution for it. None. None. And the problem
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: is this, very explicitly, very simply. Feminists reframed men's custodial behavior,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: that is their behavior as husbands and fathers, as oppression.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: And then when that hits the marriage market and gets
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: priced in, it creates hypergamy. Not just hypergamy. Because normal hypergamy,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: for the last 100 years before the 70s, women got
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: married at a sufficient rate to reproduce the human race
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: with a man of a median income. What does that mean?
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: It means the average man was good enough for 100
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: years since the beginning of when they started to keep
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: track of these things. The average man was good enough
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: for the average woman, which meant that there were enough
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: marriages to produce enough children for society to continue. Then
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: in the 70s, something changed. And suddenly the average man
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: was not good enough. And it started on the left.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: And then the right followed. And now the average man
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: is nowhere near good enough for the average woman. For
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: some reason. Some mysterious reason. And that reason is, in
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: my opinion, based on my analysis, and I'm the only
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: one doing it, is feminism said that men's custodial behavior,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: men's behavior as husbands and fathers, is the site of
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: women's oppression. They injected the demonic larvae right into the
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: site of where men and women come together and create
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: a relationship. And lo and behold, guess what's not forming?
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: And children are downstream of marriage, so guess what else
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: is not happening? And again, there is no politics, no
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: mainstream politics, no mainstream religion, no mainstream ideology, no mainstream
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: advocacy group, including the Manosphere, that has a solution for this.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: They don't even know where the problem is. But thank you,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Gloria Steinem. Thank you.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I hope that your life review is interesting. Yeah. Okay.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: You don't have to imagine.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: We're in it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: We're in one, Miss Turner.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Next part of the article. It's literally....
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: It's literally because a relational web thinker sees judgment as annihilation,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: unless she's been trained otherwise. And the only people who
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: can train her otherwise are the penis people. Okay, let's
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: keep going.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: How we got here, back to the article. Let me
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: give you the quick version, because I think a lot
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: of people who aren't living inside my generation's particular dating
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: hellscape don't fully understand the pipelines.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: It starts, usually, with YouTube.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: A teenage boy feels lost or lonely or like he
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: doesn't fit in, which is a near-universal adolescent experience that
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: previous generations navigated with varying degrees of success. But now,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: when that boy goes looking for answers, the algorithm is
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: waiting for him. It serves him videos about self-improvement, about discipline,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: about becoming the kind of man who gets respect.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Oh no.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: The videos are often genuinely helpful at first. Go to
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: the gym, read books, work hard, fine, normal, good even.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And then, gradually, the content shifts. The message starts to include,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: almost as an aside, an explanation for why he felt
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: lost in the first place. And that explanation is women.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Feminism.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: A culture that has elevated women at the expense of
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: men and left them behind without anyone acknowledging it. Where's
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: the lie?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Andrew Tate didn't invent this pipeline. No, he didn't.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: You guys keep insisting that he's more important than he
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: actually is. He just became its most visible face. Yeah,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: thanks to the media and people like you. You're literally
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: contributing to it right now with this article, by the way.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: A former kickboxer with talent for making misogyny sound like
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: wisdom who built a media empire on the premise that
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: modern women are the problem and that men who recognize
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: this are the enlightened ones. He has been banned from
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: multiple platforms, charged with human trafficking, and remains one of
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: the most searched figures on the internet among teenage boys.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: And he is everywhere in my dating life. Not always
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: by name, but by ideology.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to say something. Tate isn't radical enough.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. He's gynocentric.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Actually, he's tremendously so.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's super gynocentric, so like.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: He basically continues to sign off on women being the
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: ultimate choosers of men in society. And maybe we shouldn't
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: be doing that. He says that women are the ones
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: who pick the winners. Maybe that shouldn't be the case,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: especially not these women. First of all, okay, we'll get
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: into the winners that they pick once we get to
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: the end of this article. But also, why is it
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: that women are the ones? And why is it we
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: can't have any conversation about what they're picking? And why?
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Or what the influences are on what they're picking? Okay?
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: How come that we all are beholden? Well, first of all,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: if we are beholden to what women are picking now, again,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: then we're a dead civilization. And we're just ghosts arguing
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: with each other over where the... where the deck chairs
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: should go on the sinking boat. That's what we are.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: This is it. We just let, as Tate says, women
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: pick the winners. Okay, well, bye everyone. We can't question
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: women's standards, women's expectations. Well, I guess that was a
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: good run. You know, we had a century and a half.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: you know, pretty good prosperity, I guess that's over. Right?
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Is that it?
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I can't question this. I mean, you know, I disagree
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: with Peter Wright on a lot of his analysis, but
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: this is where he is 100% right. This idea that
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: women deserve anything more than the average man has to go.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: It is not something that is historically accurate. It's not
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: something that really can be attested to in the genealogical record,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: and I have studied that as well. And here's the
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: problem with that, with all the genetics research. The people
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: who are doing the research are saying, that if the
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: last common male ancestor of the human race is 250
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: million years ago, that means less men reproduced. And they
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: are also saying that if the last common male ancestor
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: of the human race is 100 million years ago, and
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: actually closer to now than the last female common ancestor,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: that also means men didn't reproduce as much as women.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: So you've got two different things landing on the same conclusion,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: that is motivated reasoning. The entire genetics research is premature
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: to say anything about how many men reproduced in history,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: or why, why we have these genetic bottlenecks. For all
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: we know, it could be diseases that were male-specific, right?
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: So there is... No historical evidence that the average man
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: is not good enough for the average woman. There's no
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: real anthropological evidence that the average man is not good
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: enough for the average woman. Right? This is wrong. We
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: are not promiscuous breeders. We are not a tournament species.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: We are probably the most obligate pair bonders on the planet.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Which is why we are so different than everything else. So...
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Hate is not radical enough because somebody somewhere needs to
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: step up and say, if the average man is not
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: good enough for the average woman, the average woman is wrong.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: She is suffering from some psychotic level of entitlement that
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: she is not entitled to. And hopefully it's just a
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: miscommunication from the feminists. Because I'm pretty sure at some
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: point whatever replaces us is going to be a lot
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: harder on women than we are on this particular score.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying we do it. I'm just saying they'll
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: do it. Whoever fills the void is going to take
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: away women's choice and that's what these women are choosing.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Because the average Western man just isn't good enough for them.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Good Lord. When did this? Anyway, shall we continue?
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got some super chows and stuff while you
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: were ranting. So I don't think we're going to get
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: through much of this article.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: So Meredith G gives us $ 5 and says, I can
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: completely understand everyone's frustration with the Lindsay Clancy case. People
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: are not going to appreciate that it was 11 women
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: against one man. I think there were three men. But
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: two of them might as well have been women because
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: they caved. And the foreperson was engaged in massive misconduct.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: We know that it was one man who wanted to
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: convict because the foreperson, a woman, put it in her
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: notes to the judge that they tried to either intimidate
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: the man or get the judge to boot the man.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I may be a rare person, but I thank that
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: man for holding the line and maybe the prosecutors will
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: do a better job next time.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I can still hope.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: No offense, Meredith. But the Western civilization is going to
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: come down to probably MGTOW, men's rights activists, and the
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: autist women. That's it. We're the ones going to be
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: holding the line. And not all autistic women are that based.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Or the spurgy women. It's just that proportionately it seems
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: like women who get this tend to be spurks. Mm-hmm.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I think this Lindsay Clancy case is a white pill.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: And the reason why is because I'm seeing men and women,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: but mostly men, all over saying, what the hell? And
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: they're discovering what we've been talking about forever. And they're like,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I can't believe it's gotten this far.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, I can.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised by any of this. I'm thinking she's
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: going to probably get acquitted. And if she does, then
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: that's really going to red pill people.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: But I think it's already started. That's my belief.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Official Reverse Trad.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Gives us $ 10 and says.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: You missed Noob.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: You missed Noob.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, I did?
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: Where?
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: I don't see it.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Hold on.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I don't see it here.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Let me see. Let me just look at.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, Noob gives five and says, thanks to all of
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: you for being sane voices. Thank you.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Noob.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: For some reason, it didn't show up here, but I
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: appreciate it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, can I just speak to that really quickly?
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: The only people who are going to be able to
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: do anything against this are the ones who can say, yeah,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: women don't have a right to these expectations.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, they.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Obviously have the power to have them, but they should
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: be shamed by all of society for having them. We
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: can bring that back, right? Mm-hmm. We've got to bring
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: that back. And Andrew Tate's not going to solve this
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: because he says, women pick the winners. Nope. I refuse
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: to accept that because the winners that these women are
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: picking are psychos. And then, I'm sorry, the conservatives, they say,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: you've got to lead and somehow women will follow and
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: you're not leading enough. Nope. And then the leftists say,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: just do whatever she wants, bro. And that's probably the
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: worst of all of them. So none of these positions
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: have an answer, which is that we need to look
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: at why women have developed this hyper-hypergamy. Why it's happened,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: because it's a sickness. It is not wellness. It is
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: not something that is acceptable. It is sickness. All right,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: and that actually requires blaming women, which, as you all know,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I do. And nobody can stop me.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Official reverse trad gives us $ 10 and says question for
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Allison during a raging episode about a decade ago. You
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: said we, so yeah. Can you remember Allison 10 years ago? Uh,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: you said we had research showing that men are more
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: likely to have reproductive success if they kill another man.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Can you tell me your source?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: And if we have any updates on it, since it
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: might relate to this birth rate stuff, great rant, by
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Okay. Ten years ago. Do you have a source? No.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: I don't remember the specific source that came from it. Also,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: it's not all men. It's men in basically.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: I think the context matters because there's like different ways
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: that men pursue status in order to attract mates.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: And one of them is to gather material resources... by
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: working hard or starting a business, and the other is
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: to use violence. And in certain communities and certain cultures,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: violence is what is used because the opportunities to build
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: wealth are just not there or they're not accessible. So
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: that's probably, because I remember we talked about it on
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: the show a few times, that's probably what you're talking about,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: but this is incomplete, and I'm not sure that there's, like,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: really robust data on it, but I think that you
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: can look around you and see that if you live
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: in a third world country, for example, where you can't
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: build wealth, how do the men attract women?
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Well, they're just the strongest.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: They're the warlords, the ones with the power, the ones
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: that can kill because the women feel safe with those men.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: So it just depends on where you are. That's what
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: it's about.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: In a third world country... Usually women just have more
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: realistic views of what they... That's true. What they will.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's also going to be things like harems
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: in those environments.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Depending on what kind of environment you're talking about. If
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: it's a place where you get benefit from using violence
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: to secure.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Your right to distribute resources, then yeah, you're going to
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: see herons and warlords.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: If it's a bunch of farmers, you're just going to
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: see farm wives. Right. That's the way it works generally.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: So Xeranks gives us $ 5. Super challenge says, I think
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: rather than considering solutions, we should think in terms of trade-offs.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I think we need to consider that what we'll give
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: up for what we might gain. This is why I
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: push getting government out of marriage, family, and children to start.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: If government has less of a hold to no hold
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: on the smallest example of society that exists, we can
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: get back to people learning to negotiate with each other
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: and understanding what having stakes in the game means again.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: It's a nice sentiment, but women would have to vote
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: for that. So I don't see that happening. But if
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: we get 50-50 custody, then that's going to be, that
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: is spreading to like, all states all over.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: So that could be a big effect on that.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: And then Zarynx gives us five, yeah, a $ 5 super
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: chat and says, Deserve does a lot of work where
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: female considerations are considered or are concerned. I don't know
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: why few are interested in calling out the entitlement yeah
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: women are afraid to call each other out but they
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: are really quick to exclude themselves from a group so
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: if you make like for example if you make a
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: sweeping indictment against women that support the lindsey clancy case
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: for example, to support Lindsay Clancy, you'll see more women saying, well,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not one of those. You'll see more of that
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: than women calling those women out for doing that. Because
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I think that they would... Women generally try to navigate
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: the world in terms of, like, what's socially safe for them.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: And they don't want to rock the boat, so they
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: try to find a way to essentially say, I'm not
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: one of the... I'm not your enemy, but I'm also
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: not going to call out the enemy.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: So.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: That's what.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing the most of. Yeah. It's blame economy.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: The Lindsay Clancy supporters would want women to remain blameless,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: even at the cost of not bringing justice to a
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: mother who murdered her children. And then the women who
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: are like, instead of recognizing... how absolutely appalling it is
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: that women collectively are rallying in support of a woman
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: who murdered her children premeditatedly, right? They are more concerned
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: about remaining blameless than the effects of this mob refusal
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: to accept justice and the rule of law when it
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: applies to women. So the mob around... The Lindsay Clancy
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: case is trying to remove law as it applies to women.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: They're trying to get rid of it. So women can't
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: be subject to the same citizenship laws as men are.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: And if that doesn't happen, then it's misogyny. It's misogyny
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: to hold women to the same laws men are. Well,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: this has an effect in the greater society. And this
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: is women using their social power to strip rule of
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: law when it negatively impacts them because they want to
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: remain blameless. Well, this is a problem. It is a
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: very big problem. And it does call into question whether
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: or not women should have the right to vote if
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: this is what they're going to use their social power for.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: And the women who look at this and say, well,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: I'm not like that. Don't lump me in this. Yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: you're focusing on the wrong thing. You don't want to
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: be blamed. as a woman for taking part in this.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: That's your important thing, right? It's like all the conservative
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: women who said, well, you know, you got to treat
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: us nicely or blah. It's like, yeah, once again, The
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: axis around everything revolves is your blamelessness. So these people
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: can't talk about this as a social phenomenon that distorts
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: the course of democracy in civil society because these women
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: will be like, no, you can't because I feel called
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: out as a woman. You should. You should feel called out.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: And you should start thinking about that. You should start
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: thinking about your responsibility to control women who are doing this.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Your responsibility to shame them when they pervert the course
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: of democracy and civil society and modern jurisprudence. Modern justice. Right, lady?
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: You shouldn't be focusing on whether or not you feel blamed.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: You should be focusing on what you are responsible for
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: as an adult citizen of a republic. And the fact
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: is that, show me the women who are clearly making
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: that point. Because every woman who is not is part
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: of the problem. They're part of the perversion of our society. Okay. Right.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Let's keep going.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Let me see.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Well, people kept sending super chats and then you go
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: on long rants, but it's fine. Senior Sticks gives us
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: $ 2 and says, are women not most affected?
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Are men not to blame? Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to the article.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: So now she's what it actually looks like.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: I want to be specific because I think the word
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: radicalize sounds dramatic until you understand what it looks like
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: in practice on a Tuesday night in a normal bar
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: in a normal city.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, God, this is AI. AI uses the Tuesday night thing.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Does it? Oh, does it?
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: It's just the Tuesday. It's always using Tuesday. This is
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: an AI symptom. If Tuesday creeps into somebody's writing, they're
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: using AI.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Okay. Um, yeah, you thought this was, uh, just, uh, uh,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: on the, the day that you read this article, you
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: were completely flabbergasted by just how absolutely hateful and misandrous
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: But for medium, it was just the Tuesday. All right.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: So anyway, um, it looks like a guy who seems
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: perfectly reasonable for the first half hour and then mentions
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: almost casually, he thinks feminism has quote gone too far
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: and quote, So that's what he probably actually said in
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: the date was it went too far. When you ask
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: what he means, he says something about how men can't
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: even open doors anymore without getting in trouble, a thing
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: that has never actually happened to any man, but which
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: has been repeated so many times in certain corners of
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: the Internet that it has taken on the quality of
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: lived experience.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's interesting.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: So she is actually comparing this to lived experience, which
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: is standpoint theory. And saying this isn't the same as
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: standpoint theory, even though technically you could probably get enough
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: men to say that that's happened to them because it
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: certainly has happened at some point, right?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, even in small ways, and it's not like.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: It's not even that far. It's not even that complicated, Brian.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: No, it's not that far-fetched, but go ahead.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Standpoint theory... All men have to do is have a
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: feeling of resentment, right? And amply we've proven that feminists
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: have said, oh, men have the feeling of resentment. Well,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: according to the process, the feminist process, they started with
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: the feeling of resentment. Then they located the conjecture that
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: supported it and cherry-picked history to support it. And then
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: they said, well, this resentment is valid because it's our
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: lived experience and we are women. So if we were
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: to apply the standard equally, the feminist standard, then men's
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: resentment is just as real a fact, if not more so,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: than women's resentment. But that's not how it works, is it?
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: It's only women's emotions that control things. Men's emotions are
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: all invalid, but they should express them. For some reason. Okay.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: But you're talking about we could get enough people, enough
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: men to say, yeah, I've had that lived experience. Yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: you don't even need that. You just have to have
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: men feel resentment.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: For it to be standpoint theory.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I know it's not like I'm saying that men should
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: do this this way. I just think it's just, I'm
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: pointing out that she is using, she is disqualifying a
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: way for men to make a claim, which is exactly
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: the way she would make a claim.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Which is to use lived experience.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: And you can tell that she recognizes it as lived
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: experience because she has to debunk the anecdote, even though
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: you could just dismiss it and say it's just an anecdote,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: like maybe it does.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Happen, whatever.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: But she can't dismiss it because that would mean dismissing
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: anecdotal evidence as evidence at all, which would hurt her
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: position of using lived experience as data. That's what I'm saying.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: So anyway... Yeah, so it looks like a guy who
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: talks about high-value men and hypergamy, which he puts in
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: quotes like it's not real, terms lifted directly from the
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: red pill ecosystem that reduce women to rational actors, optimizing
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: for resources and men to status symbols to be obtained.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: He doesn't think of this as ideology. He thinks of
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: it as biology.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: What?
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Let me read this again. This is from a red pill,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: it's her words, a red pill ecosystem that reduces women
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: to rational actors. How do you reduce someone to be
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: a rational actor?
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Brian.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: This is like adding new layers of, of, I don't know, like,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: it's like, you just see the world a different way. Like,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: you think that using reason is somehow, like, beneath you? Like,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: you're above it. You're above using reason.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: How?
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: How?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: How does that happen?
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: That's like the milk toast. Hey, guys, the red pill
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: reduces women down to being rational actors.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: No, it's not even milk toast. It's literally taking a
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: compliment and turning it into an insult.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: What do you expect from the group of people that
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: took men protecting and providing for women and turned it
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: into oppression? Yeah, that's pretty much par for the course,
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: I think. But I understand your astonishment because... this is different,
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: isn't it? Reduce women to rational actors, guys. You all
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: reduce women down to rational actors. Acting rationally about their lives. Optimizing.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Dare I say, resource maxing. And Status maxing. Rationally. Mm-hmm.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Goddamn.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Okay. Next paragraph.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: All right, next paragraph. It looks like a guy who,
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: when you mention that you studied gender and sexuality, oh,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: so she mentioned, see, she's kind of like giving up
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of what actually happened in this conversation. She
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: started by saying, I studied gender and sexuality. He's probably like, oh, shit.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: What have I done?
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: So anyway, it looks like a guy who, when you
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: mention that you study gender and sexuality, gets a specific
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: look on his face. Not curious, not interested, but braced.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: Like you have just announced that you're about to attack him.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you are doing it in this fucking blog.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: And spends the rest of the conversation being slightly defensive
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: about things you haven't said yet.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure. Oh my God, this woman.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: What a mess. Why are you... Okay. Okay. Okay. Seriously, guys,
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: you need to update your feminist filters because these women
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: should not be going on dates.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: They should just be, I don't know, hurting somewhere in
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: the tundra.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Lulling and mooing and trying to figure out how to
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: migrate south for the winter. I'm actually really surprised you
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: signed off on that one, Brian, because I think that
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: it made no sense to anyone.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: What?
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Sign off on what?
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Me saying that these women should be in a herd
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: somewhere in the tundra.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, I mean, I don't know. I just, I
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: pity them. That's all.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I really do. I mean, they're frustrating, but I pity them.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: They're sad.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, okay. First of all, if she's a feminist woman,
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: if she's on the left, and there are signs, so
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: start updating your filters, guys.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, of course.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: You have, like, nobody has, like, they're not marriageable, right?
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: And it's more than just, like, consider what you're getting.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: Consider that you're increasing your odds. If you eventually land
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: one of these creatures, and you actually marry them, right,
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: and by the way... If you want to marry a
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: left woman, you better be six foot plus, you better
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: have a six pack, and you better make seven figures. Well,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: six figures. High six figures.
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Okay? Because that is what they're optimizing for. Ironically, they
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: are rational... Well, I wouldn't say rational. I think the
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: red pill is giving them a little too much credit.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: But they are definitely optimizing for resources and status.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: And left women are... The worst.
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, I know.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: I know. The worst. And the further left, the worse
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: they get. If she's if she's like, you know, like
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: a moderate leftist, you can expect probably a quarter million.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: She won't accept anything less. Maybe. No, maybe maybe like
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: a hundred and twenty five thousand at least. Right. I
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: think it's I think it's a quarter of a million.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: I have to double check somewhere around there. for a
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: leftist man to have a 50-50 chance of being married, right?
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Conservatives get there at about, I don't know, 75,000. They
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: have a 50-50 chance of being married. So conservatives are
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: not lagging too far behind in the ridiculousness. But anyway,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: if you want a liberal woman, you've got to understand
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: the cost, okay? You are going to have to be
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: six foot plus. You are probably going to have to
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: be jacked. And you are probably going to have to
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: earn at least $ 125, 000 to $ 250, 000 a year. Right? Okay?
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: And what you will get is a woman who is
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: probably two standard deviations below you in looks, who does
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: not exercise, right? Who has short hair dyed weird colors.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Who's been run through.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: And even worse... Yeah, run through. And even worse, right,
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: she is going to have an adversarial, negative-sum attitude towards
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: the relationship. So everything you do for her is going
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: to be clearing a very low bar. You get no
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: credit for it. And everything she does for you is oppression.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: And then also everything you do for her is oppression.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Because you're making her dependent on you. Which is you
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: earning man points by oppressing her. You induce dependency. So
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: you are going to inherit an erotic, psychotic mess. And
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: then there is the non-negligible chance that if you actually
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: breed this creature, you will come home to find strangled children. Right? Why?
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Why are you dating them? Why are you even commenting
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: with them? At some point, you have to realize, cut
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: your losses. Nothing is there. You are attempting to get
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: water from a desert.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Without drilling down into the water table, which, okay, I'm
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: going to stop there because it's just going to get worse,
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: that analogy. But anyway, you're trying to squeeze blood from
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: a rock. Do not date. Do not approach. Do not
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: message left women. There is nothing there for you. You know,
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: ten years ago I told guys, don't go into college.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: It's a bum deal. And now I'm looking at the statistics...
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: College is now a net negative for people's income. Or
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: it might increase your income slightly, but it's offset by
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: how much debt you get. But here's the other thing.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: If you're a man, going to college reduces your likelihood
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: of being married now. So you go into debt to
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: get a job that makes a little bit more, and
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: also you're unmarriageable now. College is a bad deal for men.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Contacting left women in any capacity. Stop doing it. Don't
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: make yourself a joke. Right? Have some dignity. Have some pride.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Have some discernment. If she shows any indication that she's
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: on the left, there is no point. You think, oh, oh, okay,
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: maybe I'll smack you. Maybe. Maybe. Right? If that's what
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: you're interested in, sure, fine. Go ahead. If you just
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: want to have a one night stand, fine. But there
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: is no marriage potential there. And it's not even that
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: she is pretty basically unmarriageable. It's that her expectations are
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: so insanely high because she's on the left that almost
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: no men lift themselves up to it. And unfortunately there's
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: no changing that. Not until she decides to value men.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: And she won't. Because fundamentally, women on the left are
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: part of the I hate men club. Lost cause. Cut
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: your losses. Don't bother. All right.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, am I being too harsh?
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's fine.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Senior Sticks gives us $ 2 and says, isn't a rational
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: actor better than an irrational one?
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I thought it was weird.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Apparently not.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she thinks that being rational is beneath her. So...
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: I think this might have been written by AI. Because
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: I can't... How... How do women write that? The Manosphere
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: regard us as rational actors.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: How dare they?
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: How dare they?
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe the AI was trolling her.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Thought it would be funny to do that.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: How dare they? Guys... Listen to this feminist. If you
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: think that women are rational actors, you're part of the manosphere.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: And you hate women. You've got to regard them as
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: irrational actors. Okay. I think we beat this to death.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: All right. It looks like a guy who, when you mentioned,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: I already read that part. It looks like a guy
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: who is perfectly kind in many ways, who would probably
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: describe himself as a feminist, but who has absorbed just
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: enough of the ambient online misogyny of our moment that
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: his understanding of women is suddenly, consistently, exhaustingly off. So
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: even if you're a male feminist, you're not good enough
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: because you have the gall to say, well, what about us?
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: That's like the extent of what you're doing, that she's
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: basically attacking.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: No, no, that's not.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: No, she's not even attacking this. This is a separate
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: guy entirely. That dude was deep into infrared, red pill, manosphere,
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: evil maxing territory. Now she's talking about the feminist men
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: who get a little bit defensive, is what she's saying.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Probably nervous, right? Because they know the minefield is there.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: So what she wants is a feminist... man who knows
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: the minefield is there, but casually strolls through it, because
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: he's not actually worried about setting off any mines, which
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: means he's a man who doesn't really care about harming women,
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: because those mines are what feminists call absolute hatred and...
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: degrading of women, right? So the feminists lay the minds out.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: If you do this, you absolutely double plus hate women.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: If you do this, you're objectifying women. If you do this,
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: a woman's mind will die like a fragile soul in
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: the force of your patriarchal hurricane bullshit, right? So they
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: lay out all of these minds, which are all about
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: how much women are harmed by men. And if a
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: man is nervous going through that minefield, that means he cares, right? Right?
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: He cares if he trips up on that mine, oh
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: my god, I might destroy her ethereal feminine spirit with whatever,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: my masculine wiles, my miasma, whatever. Right? So the man
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: who actually is nervous in that minefield cares. He's fought
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: into the feminist Kool-Aid. He's attached to his custodial monitoring.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: And he cares that he might be hurting her. And
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: she's saying, no, that's ick.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: This is the truest thing she's ever said in this
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: entire thing. That's icky. It's exhaustingly off. I've laid out
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: these minefields of things that could destroy me should he
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: do them. But he shouldn't feel nervous about that. He
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: should be blithely strolling through this minefield as if he
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: doesn't have a care in the world while caring deeply. Hey, okay,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: what do you think... The only men who can manage this,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: because even the men on the left, most of them,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: if they buy into the feminist Kool-Aid and they attach
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: all the feminist nonsense to their custodial monitoring, what that
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: means is they want to protect women, they want to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: make sure women are not hurt by them. If they
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: do that, they are going to be nervous, or they
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: are going to be worried, or they're going to be
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: more hesitant. Because they actually care. Because they're men. So
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: what she's actually selecting for is men who easily signal
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: all of these positions but care about none of them.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: You know who those guys are? The narcissists and sociopaths
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: they constantly complain they attract. Okay. Sorry, did I stop
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: you from responding, Brian?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: It's fine. What was I responding to? I just lost track.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to the article. Okay. These
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: are not monsters. That is almost the harder thing to explain.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: They are ordinary men who have been marinating in an
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: information environment that is actively hostile to women.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: And some of it has gotten in.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, so literally men who care. She sets out the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: minefield and says that each of these mines will horribly
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: disfigure me as a woman. And the man who cares
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: is subtly, consistently, exhaustingly off. So basically what she means
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: is the man who cares is an ick. But that's
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: the manosphere's fault. I feel like the manosphere in her
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: mind is now occupying the space of I'm not getting
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: exactly what I want in the way I want it,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: in the time span I want it, at this moment,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: and also not being judged for wanting it. It's basically
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: the whole or everything that doesn't perfectly align with what
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: she thinks she deserves is the manosphere.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Or the manosphere is to blame for it. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'll be quiet now.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: The numbers are not reassuring.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: I want to cite something here because I think this
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: is the part where people assume I'm being dramatic. A
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: 2024 survey by the policy think tank More in Common.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to find out what that is. Hold on
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: a second. What is this think tank More in Common?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: Found that 52% of young men in the United States
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: held unfavorable views of feminism.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: More striking, young.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Men age 18 to 29 were significantly more conservative on
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: gender issues than men in older age groups, a reversal
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: of the historical pattern in which younger generations tend to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: be more progressive than older ones. Oh no, you're losing
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: all of your fucking influence. I wonder what caused it.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Could it have been all of the open hatred of men?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Wild idea.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: More in common is basically a progressive think tank. So yeah, okay.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: It's commies. Meanwhile, young women are of the same age group.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: I've continued moving in the opposite direction. We are by
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: every available measure, more progressive on gender issues than any
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: previous generation of young women. The gap between young men
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: and young women on these questions is now larger than
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: the gap between young men and their fathers. Think about
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: what that means in practice. Think about what it means
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: for who is available to date. what assumptions you're navigating,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: what conversations you're having on a first date before you've
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: decided if you like someone enough for a second. The
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: political science term for this is gender values gap. I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: have another term for it, but I'm trying to keep
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: this relatively professional. Oh, okay.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Very intimidating.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: Again, if you want to date a woman like this,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: here is my guide. Be a complete simp. Be six
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: foot plus tall. Be jacked, you know, regular gym goer.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: Make six figures, high six figures. But once you get
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: into that category, I have to ask you, sir, why
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: are you slumming? Yeah. You can get significantly better than
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: a liberal woman once you're in that category. All right.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: What I actually want. So here's what, Oh, is this
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: a woman going to tell us what she actually wants?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: That's nice for a change. Let's find out. I want
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: to be clear that I am not asking for a
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: perfect man. I am not asking for someone who has
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: read every feminist text I've read or uses all the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: right language or who agrees with me about everything. I'm
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: asking for someone who thinks I am a person. That
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: sounds like an incredibly low bar. It should be an
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: incredibly low bar. And yet, here we are. What I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: want is a partner who understands at the most basic
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: level that the systems that have historically disadvantaged women are real,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: that they are not invented by angry women who hate men,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: but documented, studied, and demonstrably present in wages and laws
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: and medical treatment and a thousand other places where the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: data is not ambiguous. I want someone who can hear
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: me talk about my experience of being a woman in
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: the world without treating it as an attack on him personally.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: I want someone whose first instinct when a woman describes
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: something difficult is curiosity rather than defensiveness. You mean like
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: postpartum depression? I'm struggling with that right now. Are you
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: going to listen to me? Are you going to hear
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: us out? I do not think this is too much
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: to ask. I also increasingly think it is harder to
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: find than it should be.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: Again, the biggest thing that differentiates a woman like this
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: from a woman who thinks this a little bit less...
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: Because conservative women still think this. They just, I guess,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: are a little quieter about it. Who knows?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, the big thing that distinguishes her from every
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: other woman is she asks 2.3 times more money to marry. Like, oh,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: she said, I want to be a person. Yeah, and
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: apparently her personhood is denominated in buckaroos.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Goddamn.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: This is just social climbing and mate suppression.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: And justification why she can't be held accountable for the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: fact that she is a materialistic human being. Right? She
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: is a materialist. A rank materialist.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: Like, if liberal women got their way, we would probably
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: be much, we actually would be in an ecological catastrophe.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: They don't even give a shit about the earth. They
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: just want money. And they're using this virtue signaling to
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: justify why they are owed more than they should actually
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: clear in a legitimate market.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: This is like J.P. Morgan silver spoofing. Except these so-called
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: feminists are just spoofing the mating market by getting other
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: women to withdraw their product so that they can command
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: a higher price. And it's not that they end up
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: in a better position because they don't. Conservative men still
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: make more on average. It's that liberal men are poorer
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: to begin with. And what's happening is that although the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: latter isn't higher, they get to go further up it,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: if that makes sense. So the ladder is the same height,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: the conservative ladder and the liberal ladder. But a liberal
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: woman gets to punch above her weight. She gets to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: go up the ladder. But this is only possible because
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: a single lifestyle is underwritten by men's labor and men's taxes.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: So we're all paying for... this social climbing this mendacious
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: social climbing that they're engaging in if I don't get
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: a man who isn't 2.3 standard deviations better than I
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: can actually clear in an honest market then the whole
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: world can implode. And it's not even 2.3 standard deviations anymore.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: It's more like 5. If the world doesn't give me
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: a top 10 percentile man, then the society doesn't deserve
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: to exist.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: That's it. Like, they're talking about, oh, I want to
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: be treated like a person. The fact that you aren't
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: being publicly called out. The fact that you get published
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: by platforms on Medium. Yeah, you are treated as better
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: than a person. You're treated like a person who defines
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: whether or not men are people.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: And just the hypocrisy of all of this. That they
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: just don't, they don't actually hold any of the virtues
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: that they say they hold. It's just a means by
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: which to climb the social ladder. All right.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Back to the article.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure. Last section, right?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the part where I talk about what this costs.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: Here is what people.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Don't... What?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, not her. No, no. Not her.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: We'll see where she ends up, but Here is what
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: people don't say enough about the radicalization of young men.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: It's not just a political problem. It is a loneliness
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: problem on both sides. The men being fed this ideology
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: are being told that their loneliness and disconnection are women's fault.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: They are being given a framework that explains their pain
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: by directing it outward at women, at feminism, at a
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: culture that has supposedly emasculated them. That framework feels satisfying
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: because it provides both an explanation and an enemy.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: It does not actually address the loneliness.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: It deepens it by making genuine connection, the kind that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: requires vulnerability, mutual respect, and the willingness to see another
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: person as fully human, harder to achieve.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: Yes, and that's why liberal men need 2.3 times more
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: income to have the same marriage rates as any other man. Yes,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: if this loneliness epidemic hits any men, most, it's men
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: on the left. Okay.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to hit them the hardest for sure.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: It's already doing that.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, if they're looking for women that share their
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: beliefs and they're probably just doing what they were told
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: to do in schools by their mom, by their teachers,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: by the media, they're just following that line and it's
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: not working out for them.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: No, it's not working out for them at all. So
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: the men who are dealing with the greatest amount of
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: loneliness are the ones who listen to women like this.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: That's what's astounding.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: That is flippin' astounding.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, so actually I got the numbers now. The left's
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: actually married number, so married right now, is 35.7%. So
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: men on the left, 35.7% of them are married. I
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: think that's between 25 to 45%. That's compared to 51%
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: of men on the right, which incidentally is not high
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: enough either. Conservatives, if everyone became a conservative tomorrow, there
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: still wouldn't be enough marriages and births to keep us from.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: To.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: Get up to replacement. So that's what I mean by
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: I'm saying there's no political position, there's no religion mainstream
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: right now that solves this problem. They all fail it.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: They all are part of a dead civilization. But the right, okay,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: so they're 51, so 52%. The left is at 36%.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: Cohabitation doesn't add that much, guys. So men on the
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: left are the ones who are experiencing the greatest loneliness crisis.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: They're experiencing it. And they're not just experiencing it in
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: terms of not being married, not cohabitating, not having girlfriends.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: They also have more attenuated and difficult relationships with other
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: men because they believe the feminist crap. Right? So they
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: are the ones dealing with the worst loneliness. And to
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: actually be 50%, so if men on the left wanted
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: to be married and wanted a coin toss chance of
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: being married, they'd have to earn $ 300, 000 a year. So
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: not only is the loneliness crisis hitting the men that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: she says that would agree with her worse. So women
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: are not selecting those men worse, like more than any
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: other group of men. In order for those men to
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: actually buy their way out of their loneliness crisis, they
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: would have to hand over women like this $ 300, 000 a year.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: Because that's what her priorities actually are. There shouldn't be, like,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: if leftist women actually cared about all of the virtues
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: they talk about, about being treated like a woman, or no,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: so treated like a person, and all of this, and
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: they had this low bar, such a low bar, guys.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: She has such a low bar, a low expectation of
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: the men. If she did, a man on the left
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: wouldn't need $ 300, 000 to have a coin toss chance of
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: being married. He'd be married because his virtues would add
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: to his marriageability, not subtract. So these women are lying.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: Whatever they say they want, they don't want it. Or
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: they don't want it without also having a huge amount
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: of money. Can you forget the audacity of this bitch? Okay,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: let's keep going.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: All right, NovaFan21 gave us a Rumble rant and said,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: for a dollar, I agree with that feminist framework.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, she disagrees with it?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: That's her loss because that very system survived thousands of
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: times longer than every empire put together.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: Why fix what ain't broke?
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: Well, because the purpose is to break it. Okay. And
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: on my end, the experience of dating in this environment
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: is its own kind of loneliness. The constant low-grade vigilance
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: of trying to figure out in the first 30 minutes
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: whether this person sees me as a person or as
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: a collection of attributes to be evaluated and ranked. Basically
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: discerning if she's like decent or not is the equivalent
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: of that. The exhaustion of navigating conversations that turn subtly
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: hostile when I mention my degree or my opinions or
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: my refusal to perform a particular kind of femininity.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: Why are they only subtly hostile, guys? Why is this...
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: What's with this subtle hostility?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: You need to up your game.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that she's just... He's probably not even
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: trying to be hostile, but she's just reading it that
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: way because that's what she's programmed to do.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: The grief, honesty.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, the grief, honestly, of watching men who might have
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: been good partners get pulled into an ideological framework that
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: makes them worse at intimacy rather than better. Hmm, projection?
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: This is the part that doesn't get said. The radicalization
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: of young men is bad for young men. The ideology
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: that promises them power and respect is actually teaching them
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: to be worse at the thing most of them actually want,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: which is connection. Sounds like you're just saying, please don't
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: move towards that gun, it's my gun.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Don't take it from me. I know that. I learned
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: it in school.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: Bell Hooks spent a lot of her career writing about
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: how patriarchy damages men's capacity for love, how the suppression
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: of vulnerability and the performance of dominance cut men off
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: from their own emotional lives in ways that make genuine
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: intimacy nearly impossible. She was right. She was writing in
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: the 90s. The men uploading red pill content to YouTube
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: did not read Bell Hooks. I understand Bell Hooks. She
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: was one of the first intersectional feminists. Probably one of
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: the worst, worst fucking people in the 20th century. And
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: probably did, like, tremendous damage. Almost as much as Gloria Steinem,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: who basically opened the.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: Door for her.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: So yes, I know.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: You know who's a big fan of bell hooks? Anita Sarkeesian.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: She gets all of her talking points come from her.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: So yes, we know who bell hooks is. And if you, like,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: fell for this shit, it's because you wanted to.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Where this leaves me, or where that leaves me.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: I am still dating. Reluctantly. Exhaustedly.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: With a group chat open at all times for real-time consultation.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: I have not given up on the idea that there... Yeah,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: so he does consultation, apparently.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: I wonder... Okay, but just.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, so... You're going on a date with this woman? Okay... Guys,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: stop dating her. Goddamn, I wish I had more reach.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: so I could find the men who are entertaining this
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: batshit insane human being and slap them. Why are you
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: dating her? Why are you anywhere near her? And how
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: is it... This woman is sitting at a date with
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: her phone open doing consultations while she's in and on
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: a date with a man.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: She's basically sabotaging other women. That's what she's doing.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, she's saying, okay, she's saying, I'm still dating, reluctantly, exhaustedly,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: with a group chat open at all times for real-time consultation.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, so she's getting advice from other women while she's
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: on a date with a man?
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, while she's on a date with a man. He
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: does something. She's like, and then you can hear the harpies.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: I wonder why you're alone.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: Like, guys, if she does this, walk up. Leave, and
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: leave her with the bill. Just go. Like, what is this? Like,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: you're not going to have a relationship with her. What
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: you're going to be is basically just a silhouette with
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: the word man on it, and you're constantly going to
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: be trying to outrun her hen's opinions of you. Like,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: what the hell is that?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: Alright uh okay I have not given up on the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: idea that there are men out there who have somehow
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: navigated the current information environment without absorbing its worst lessons
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: men who are curious rather than defensive who understand that
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: feminism is not an attack on them who are capable
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: of the kind of mutual respect that makes a relationship
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: actually work I believe those men exist I have met
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: some of them they are in my experience not on
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: Hinge Then why are you on Hinge? What I am
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: done doing is pretending that the current situation is normal.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: It is not normal that the gender values gap between
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: young men and young women is the largest it has
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: ever been. It is not normal that I have to
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: spend the first 30 minutes of a day doing ideological triage.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: It is not normal that he does he think women
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: are people has become a screening question rather than an assumption.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: These things are the result of a specific documented well-funded... What?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: Has become. Well, she says it's not normal that does
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: he think women.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Or people has become. Oh, has become a screening question
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: rather than an assumption.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So at some point it wasn't, according to her.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: So I guess that was the time in the past
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: that wasn't patriarchy, but it was also patriarchy.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: So you're basically just, you're just undermining your own ideology's
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: own base assumptions. Okay. Let's keep going. Okay.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: These things are the result of a specific, documented, well-funded...
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: Listen to this. It sounds like something else, what she's describing.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: A specific, documented, well-funded campaign to make young men angry
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: at women. Because angry young men are a reliable political
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: constituency and because the ideology that captures them has uses
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: that go.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Wait.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Has uses that go beyond... It's uses, not uses. uses
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: that go well beyond the dating market. Let me read
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: that again, but I'm going to change something around. These
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: things are the result of a specific, documented, well-funded campaign
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: to make young women angry at men because angry young
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: women are a reliable political constituency and because the ideology
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: that captures them has uses that go well beyond the
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: dating market. Doesn't that sound a little bit more accurate?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Like, really on the nose?
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: It also sounds like something that actually has to file
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: financial statements with the IRS as opposed to some kind
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: of mystical woo that exists somewhere out there mysteriously. Like,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: she's basically saying that there's some kind of institutional manosphere.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: There isn't. There's no government funded. There's no academic manosphere arm.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: There's no NGO complex. There's no field of manosphere masculinities.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: But there is a feminist field of masculinities. There's nothing there.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: It's just some YouTubers. That's not an institution. But there
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: is an institution with a whole huge paper trail that
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: basically looks exactly like Just.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Saying.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. All right. Andrew Tate didn't just
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: make incels.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: He made a generation of men who are harder to
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: love than they needed to be.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Am I still.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: And I am still, despite everything, trying to love them anyway.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: Get off the cross, lady. That might be the most
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: feminist thing about me. I'm just going to give him
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: a chance to submit... To submit to me is what
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: it is. And she doesn't really want that because as
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: soon as they do, she's going to be like, ugh.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Good, good, good, goodness. Goodness gracious.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah. She wants men to recognize there's a man, a
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: man field. Yeah. A minefield of behaviors that could destroy
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: her poor girl.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: Where do they get that idea?
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, but she wants men to recognize that, but
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: then not make it weird.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: He needs to recognize in every moment he could be
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: potentially destroying me. But don't make it weird, guys, because
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: that's an ick. Oh, this is why liberal men are single.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: That's right. And there is no point trying. You're better
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: off as a liberal man, you actually want to get married,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: God forbid have children, you might as well just become conservative. Hell,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: it's not going to be necessarily that much better, but
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: it is better. The conservatives are going the same way too,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: they're circling the same drain, they're just not quite as
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: far down as the liberals. Because I'm freaking, this is like, just,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: and again, if it was really that important for her
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: to be treated as a person, and again, feminists are like,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: they lay out this minefield of all the ways that
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: men don't treat women like people. And then she has
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: a date with the guy who agrees with that. And
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: he's like walking on eggshells to avoid all the potential
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: minds that make her not feel like a person according
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: to feminism. And she's just weirded out. She's got the ick.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: Nothing satisfies these women.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: And.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: The only thing that could possibly do anything is to
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: challenge the lies that they've created around men. That's it.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: It's what we got to do. All right. So we
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: want to start the game or. Sure.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did all the I read the article. I
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: don't know if there's any. I'm going to check in
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: to see if I miss any super chats or anything.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't look like I did.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: Get those super chats in, guys. Yeah.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: Use the super chats in, guys.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: I think I got them. Yeah, it's all here.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: We're all good on that.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: Did you put up the crowd control?
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: I did not. Is that okay?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: Okay. I mean... Oh.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: Not anything we can do about it now, so.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: Unless you can do it really quickly.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: I'd have to, like... No, I'd have to, like, log
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: in and stuff. Let me close this. So we're not
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: looking at the article anymore?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: Unless you have something further you want to say. I mean,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: I guess I could see... I mean, I did a
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: brief look-see-loo at the ick list since I was like, oh, man,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: this sounds like she's got an ick in relation to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: feminist men and she doesn't want to recognize it. Yeah. Right?
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: And this is the thing that I see consistently with
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: feminist women. They want feminist men, but they find them disgusting,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: which is probably why men on the left have such
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: a marriage penalty. Mm-hmm. And they don't want to examine it.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: And they don't want to be called out on it.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: And all of their virtues are essentially trying to escape accountability.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: But it's like, yeah, I was looking at the ick list.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: And what's really interesting is that on the ick list,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: everything that gives women an ick is, or the majority
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: of them, is men acting custodially, so taking care of them,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: responding promptly, making them, you know, like showing up for them, basically.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: That gives women the ick. And then also anything that
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: demonstrates any kind of vulnerability, that gives women the ick.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: So in order to be attractive to a woman, a
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: man needs to not be a man. and also not
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: a person. Good luck with that, guys. Can you manage
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: to both not be a man and not a person?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know. So the only men who really actually
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: get through the ICLSS filter are sociopaths. Guys who can
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: have absolutely no... They don't have any desire to show up.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: In fact, the biggest thing on the list is that
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: if a man makes her feel like he's made a
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: commitment to her, immediately she no longer desires him. That's
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: an ick. That's an ick. Right? So a man should
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: feel like he's never truly attached to her. Otherwise, it's
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: an ick. How the hell do you create a relationship
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: with something that disordered? And this woman's article is just
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: another manifestation of this disorder. I want a man who's
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: worried that he's depersoning me because he might be stepping
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: on one of the minefields in the feminist minefield of
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: how men deperson women. But I don't want him to
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: just be weird about it. Like, I don't want him
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: to look like he cares. I don't want him to
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: actually care. It's the same thing, right? I want a
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: man to care, but not act like he cares, because
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: that's an ick. All right. And this is the behavior
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: that men are supposed to somehow... This isn't even a
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: target anymore. It's like the smell a target left. Yeah.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: The displaced atoms that there once was a target. You
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: know how radiation leaves like a shadow? Yeah, that's it.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: Like this is the shadow that was once the target.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: Hey guys, try to hit it. Right, but it might change,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: you know? The target might move somewhere else very quickly.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: It might instantiate. It might disappear. It might teleport and
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: apparate into another universe. But you can still hit it. Okay.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: Ew.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: All right, let's do that. What?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: Ew.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you can still hit it. I wouldn't want to.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, God, yeah. Okay, that's good. All right.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: So... Yeah, let's do it. Let's get... Are you ready?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: You want me to send you invitations?
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: Can we continue to talk through? Can we continue to
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: talk through here, though? Yeah. Sure. I mean, yeah. It's
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: just easier for me.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: But make sure they can hear you, too. So get
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: online and.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to start. Okay. I'm just finding the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: game that we are playing. There's no Death Rider. I
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: don't see Norwegian around. So do you want to just
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: do the same... game we were playing I think we
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: made it to like level 25 uh.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: We'll load this one okay.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: I'm I still suck at it uh it's fine you're
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: Allison's getting better she's just she's getting better all right
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: okay I got my crown.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: I got my crown all right.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: So yeah you still still the crown I still got.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: I got my crown I'm still king of the losers.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: Awesome. Okay. I'm going to join up, but it might
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: be a bit difficult for me to find the headset.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: That's going to be the big issue. And I also
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: need to take some pills.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: Alright, here comes... Gabriel's here, and the wife is here. Yo.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: That freaking argument gave me a fucking headache.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: That article.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do some customization here. Allison's joining now.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I love this look.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: Okay. So I'm going to mute Allison in here in
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: the game and leave her on in here.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: Just test your audio in the game so that Lindsay
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: and Gabriel can hear you.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: I'm going to have to figure that out.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: She's figuring out her microphone situation before we get started.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling them because they can't hear you.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: I'll be right back.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: Let me think how I can do this.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: Let's see. What are you getting? Oh, a delivery. Okay.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: Alright, I'm going to have to do something really crazy. What?
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: Let me see. I'm going to have to, like.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: I'll show you.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, are you doing some customization stuff?
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: Okay, speak. Speak, Brian. Speak.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: I'm speaking right now. This is me speaking.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: Can you hear me in the game?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: You can hear me in Discord because I'm talking. Are
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: you trying to see if you can hear me.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: In the game?
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: Whoa.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: What the hell are you doing?
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: You got a cold?
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: He sneezes twice. No, Gabriel's talking to me in the game, Allison.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: That's why you got to get in here.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right. Yeah, fine. I'm trying to get it.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: So just, this is sort of complicated. Just give me
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: a moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: It's fine.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, no, I do think that it's going
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: to red pill a lot of men. It's red pilling
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: men all over the place, guys. Stop being so fucking negative.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: You can see it. You can see it. Like, Steven
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: Crowder has been endlessly making video content about this. He
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: has basically moved to our position in just, like, in
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: the last, like, six months or so. And he was
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: probably about as mainstream and milquetoast or conservative as it gets.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: So let's stop with the fucking crying like we're the
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: only ones that can figure this out. People are figuring
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: this out. Otherwise, I feel like I'm just wasting my time.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: And I should just do something else.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: Let's play Repo!
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, are you in the game now?
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, well then get in the game.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: We can't start unless you're talking.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to get my freaking microphone working.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: Get the headset working. And then we'll start. Let's see.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, Mzaryng just sent a super chat in for five
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: and says, feminism means women should be recognized as human. Quote,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: the projection of the traditional denial of men's humanity was
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: always there, wasn't it?
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: You know, I think Gloria Steinem said something like, I've
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: never wished the death of men, but I have enjoyed
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: reading certain obituaries.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: So, you know.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, let's see. No, not there. Okay. Ah, here we go.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: Yes, there you go.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there we go. Does he sound okay? Can
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: you hear her?
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: All right, yes. Yeah, I'm good. I should be, I
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: should be, okay. So, um, I can... I can't hear you. Yeah,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: you can hear me. I'm flapping away. You shouldn't be
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: able to hear me.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: Lindsay stepped away for a second.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: Let's wait until she gets back.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: I'm right here.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: I'm here.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, okay.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: All right. Now, the question is, do you hear yourself, Brian?
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: No. No, I wouldn't.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: No, I can't hear myself. No.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm not hearing W either, so.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's good, because I actually have you on my
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: Mac speakers instead of through the game. So it's a
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: little bit complicated, but hopefully this ad hoc-ness will work.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: Hopefully, yeah, because if your microphone is picking up the
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: audio from your computer, then if we come across a huntsman...
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: He might pick up your sound if something, just like your,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: you know, if your microphone picks. I'm not clapping, so. Yeah, yeah, no,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: it's totally fine. Yeah, I guess it's fine.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going to start then.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: Here we go. Okay.