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Sean O'Connell on PFL fights tomorrow in Chicago, Utah Spring FB, Will Spencer Fano be a top 5 or 10 Draft pick (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 2: I've had a question out to you guys today. With
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Speaker 2: three weeks of Utah football spring practice in our back pockets,
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Speaker 2: as you guys look ahead to the season that's coming up,
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Speaker 2: who do you think will be the most important newcomer
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Speaker 2: to Utah football. Who do you see is the most
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Speaker 2: important new comer, Not somebody that was on the team before,
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Speaker 2: but somebody new to the team this year for Utah
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Speaker 2: football success this fall. Hit me up and let me
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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. This
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Speaker 2: text in from Texter thirty five thirty nine says, if
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Speaker 2: the Mammoth win their first series, is that a great season. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you say great season, but it's
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Speaker 2: certainly a good season, and it's a step of the
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Speaker 2: right direction. They were in a playoff team a year ago,
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Speaker 2: so if you get to the playoffs, that's a step
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Speaker 2: in the in a positive direction. And if you win
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Speaker 2: a series, that's that's always a step in the positive direction.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't again, good, great, you you use
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Speaker 2: the term, but it's it's the right step for the
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Speaker 2: Mammoth getting to the playoffs. Great, win a series even better,
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Speaker 2: and yeah, then we'll see what the offseason holds for
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Speaker 2: the Mammoth coming up. But it's been a good year
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Speaker 2: so far. And if you've gotten down to the Delta
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Speaker 2: Center to watch them, it's a great product. It really is.
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Speaker 2: That hockey is awesome. It's just it's in joy now.
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Speaker 2: It's it's pricey, no doubt about it. But everything in
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Speaker 2: professional sports is pricey today. But it's a great product.
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Speaker 2: It's the team is good, the presentation is great for
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Speaker 2: the Mamoths. So yeah, it's been a lot of fun.
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Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell joining us from Chicago today where he'll be
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Speaker 2: part of ESPN two's broadcast of the PFL main card tomorrow,
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Speaker 2: Serg o. Pettis and Mitch McKee four o'clock on ESPN two.
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Speaker 2: How are things in the Windy City today?
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Speaker 3: Sean, a little chili but otherwise wonderful. Wayan's done, Fighters
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Speaker 3: ready and just getting ready.
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Speaker 2: How are way ins today compared to when you used
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Speaker 2: to do weigh ins?
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Speaker 3: There are a lot more efficient now and most MMA
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Speaker 3: fans probably know this, but they allow fighters now to
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Speaker 3: weigh in in the morning, as opposed to it used
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Speaker 3: to be when you saw fighters on the scale on
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Speaker 3: the stage facing off with one another.
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Speaker 4: That was the real way in.
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Speaker 3: So people would be, you know, dehydrated, miserable, whatever, cranky.
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Speaker 3: And I think the promotions like that because you would
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Speaker 3: have you know, bad moods and some intense face offs
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Speaker 3: and things like that. Now for the sake of health reasons,
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Speaker 3: and it feels pretty obvious why it would be advantageous.
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Speaker 3: You weigh in at nine in the morning, and then
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Speaker 3: they do a ceremonial way in on the stage for
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Speaker 3: the fans later in the day, So that came into
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Speaker 3: effect towards the tail end of my fighting career, and
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Speaker 3: let me tell you, it is a lot lot better
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Speaker 3: because instead of being dehydrated for most of the day
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Speaker 3: on weigh in day, you just dehydrate overnight early in
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Speaker 3: the morning, and then you have a lot more time
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Speaker 3: other you know, eight twelve hours to rehydrate get yourself
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Speaker 3: ready for actual competition.
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Speaker 2: That was never you though, by the way, or maybe
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Speaker 2: it was, and you just put a happy face on,
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Speaker 2: but you were never grumpy or angry or any of
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Speaker 2: that stuff.
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Speaker 5: And if you were, you didn't show it.
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Speaker 3: I didn't cut nearly as much weight as a lot
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Speaker 3: of guys did, so I was not in any kind
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Speaker 3: of trouble and I could at least put on a.
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Speaker 4: Good game face and goof around a way.
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Speaker 2: And where do they keep you, guys? Where's the event
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Speaker 2: being taking place?
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Speaker 5: In Chicago?
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Speaker 3: So we're at the wind Trust Arena in Chicago, which
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Speaker 3: is on the campus of DePaul University. But we're staying
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Speaker 3: right downtown, so we're right right by the river Walk
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Speaker 3: and just right in the heart of it. And that's
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Speaker 3: always great when you're in Chicago.
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Speaker 5: It's the best I have what.
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Speaker 2: Chicago is America's friendliest big city as long as you
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Speaker 2: stay in the nicery areas, and it's very walkable and
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Speaker 2: a lot of things going on. And spring in Chicago
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Speaker 2: is hit and miss, but it's it's mostly hit.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's cool today, but it's not raining or
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Speaker 3: anything at least right now. Knock on wood and you
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Speaker 3: know there's a Cubs game, so we're headed to Wrigley
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Speaker 3: right now.
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Speaker 5: Excellent.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, you'll get see a little afternoon baseball and
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Speaker 2: then tomorrow night call the Fights or tomorrow afternoon call
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Speaker 2: the Fights at ESPN two.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 2: Media was allowed in yesterday to watch a little football practice,
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Speaker 2: so Morgan Scaley kind of threw a little carrot.
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Speaker 5: Out there for the media.
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Speaker 2: Got to see a little something something and I've had
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Speaker 2: a chance to talk to coaches and see a little
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Speaker 2: practice this spring too. I threw a question out today
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Speaker 2: newcomer Sean who's going to be the most important newcomer
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Speaker 2: for Utah football this fall?
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Speaker 3: I think you gotta go with one of those wide receivers.
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Speaker 3: I think the quarterback position is pretty well established. I
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Speaker 3: think that whoever emerged, well, you might say Kelvin Obots,
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Speaker 3: because I think he will be a starter on the
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Speaker 3: offensive line, but you know, he's going to be a
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Speaker 3: true freshman. And I think that either Kyrie Scholz or
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Speaker 3: Brandon Pegan or maybe a name, maybe the Rickie Johnson kid, whoever,
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Speaker 3: I think we're going to find somebody on this Utah
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Speaker 3: roster that's passes this year that ends up being a
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Speaker 3: massively impactful player. And it's a very talented room. It's
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Speaker 3: a relatively deep room, especially given what we've dealt with
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Speaker 3: in these past few years at the University of Utah,
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Speaker 3: So that that would be my probably go to because
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Speaker 3: those guys have impressed me a lot in the brief
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Speaker 3: periods we've been able to watch them.
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Speaker 2: I've been telling people don't necessarily and I say this
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Speaker 2: because I said the offensive line is a big puzzle
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Speaker 2: right now, and Kevin mcgiven and Jordan Gross are trying
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Speaker 2: to figure out where the puzzle pieces fit best. So
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Speaker 2: just because you have in your mind, oh, Calvin obod
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Speaker 2: he's going to step in and he's going to play
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Speaker 2: immediately for Caleb Lomano at left tackle, slow that rule
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Speaker 2: just a little bit. Because we've seen guys that are
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Speaker 2: projected to be one thing, especially on along the offensive line,
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Speaker 2: that could start one place and then end up transferring
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Speaker 2: to someplace else. So I've told people, I said, don't
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Speaker 2: think just because this was what people have said, that's
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Speaker 2: necessarily what's going to be. It might, but I think
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Speaker 2: that they're trying to figure out where everybody works best
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Speaker 2: right now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
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Speaker 3: And if you look at a lot of the offensive linemen,
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Speaker 3: especially the tackle bodies that have played early in their
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Speaker 3: careers at the University of Utah, most of those guys
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Speaker 3: have flirted with different positions, They've moved around, you know,
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Speaker 3: and you find the best fit. We saw that with
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Speaker 3: Zane Beatles, you saw that with John Cullen when he
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Speaker 3: was on this roster. You've seen you saw a little
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Speaker 3: bit of that with Spencerfano, and that's probably what they'll
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Speaker 3: do with Kelvin Obot. But I mean, you've seen him build.
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Speaker 3: They're going to get him on the field as soon
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Speaker 3: as he's ready, because couldn't is gracious.
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Speaker 2: I would tell you to keep an eye on Cedric
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Speaker 2: Jefferson from Montana State. And I say it and I
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Speaker 2: don't know where he's going to play yet, and I
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Speaker 2: don't know that Jordan Gross does either. But a guy
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Speaker 2: that's played three years of college football and at a
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Speaker 2: high level. All beat at the one Double A level,
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Speaker 2: but he won championships there. I think his experience in
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Speaker 2: locker rooms and on the field, even though there's a
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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a period where he's leveling up a
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Speaker 2: little bit, and I'm sure this springs part of it.
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Speaker 2: I think Jefferson could be a key piece too.
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Speaker 3: I think you're right and something that we I think
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Speaker 3: we failed to appreciate sometimes when you're talking about upward
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Speaker 3: mobility in the transfer portal. Right, let's say that the
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Speaker 3: transfer thing wasn't an issue. Let's say that he had
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Speaker 3: to stay at Montana State. Well, that's the guy who's
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Speaker 3: at least getting his cup of coffee on Sundays, right.
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Speaker 3: I played with guys, a couple of guys at Weber
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Speaker 3: State that were offensive linemen that got to play a
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Speaker 3: year or two in the league. And if you're that
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Speaker 3: level of player, you're good enough to start for a
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Speaker 3: Big twelve team or an SEC team for that matter.
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Speaker 3: Like they got Sunday guys too, they're fewer and further between.
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Speaker 3: But I think he's one of those guys, and that
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Speaker 3: was a big pickup for this offensive line.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think just having that kind of experience and a
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Speaker 2: guy that's got a little championship pedigree is good. I
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Speaker 2: had Bryson Barnes on the show in the first hour today,
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Speaker 2: Sean and I wanted to catch up with Bryson because
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Speaker 2: everybody loves the farmer and he's excited. He's hoping to
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Speaker 2: get a free agent invite someplace and get a chance
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Speaker 2: to play. But I wanted to get from him, especially
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Speaker 2: what he thought Kevin mcgiven's impact would be with Utah
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Speaker 2: football in the Utah offense, because Kevin McGivern unlocked Bryce
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Speaker 2: and Barnes a year ago. This was a guy that
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Speaker 2: was a solid football player. He was a solid player
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Speaker 2: for Utah. He had a solid first year, but he
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Speaker 2: wasn't the outright guy his first year at Utah State.
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Speaker 2: He kind of split time up there. But last year
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Speaker 2: Kevin McGivern found a way to unlock him to where
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Speaker 2: he was a twenty five hundred yard passer and a
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Speaker 2: seven hundred yard rusher and he was an All conference
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Speaker 2: caliber player there. He just thinks that Kevin McGivern is
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Speaker 2: going to take what he did at Utah State and
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Speaker 2: take it to another level with the level of talent
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Speaker 2: that he's got with Ficklin and Dan Pierre and the
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Speaker 2: receivers in the line. He just thinks that mcgiven's going
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Speaker 2: to do really good things.
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Speaker 4: I agree.
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Speaker 3: And you got to remember Kevin mcgiven when you take
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Speaker 3: back to his his Weaver State days, he developed a
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Speaker 3: couple of NFL players at a Weaver State program that
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Speaker 3: this is before they were a real powerhouse, right, And
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Speaker 3: he continued that at every level he's been at. Now
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Speaker 3: he's got the best raw talent, the best raw material
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Speaker 3: he's ever had in his career to work with. And
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Speaker 3: I've always been a believer that you can if you
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Speaker 3: can do more with less, you can do even more
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Speaker 3: with more. And that's what Kevin mcgibbn's going to be
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Speaker 3: tasked to do. He's got an incredible amount of talents.
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Speaker 3: The experience of getting all those guys together, firing on
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Speaker 3: all cylinders cohesive as an offense is really the thing
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Speaker 3: that is going to take a little bit of time
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Speaker 3: and hopefully you know they have enough of it because
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Speaker 3: you get fifteen practices in spring. They'll have the summer
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Speaker 3: program where the coaches don't get to be involved, and
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Speaker 3: then you know, they got two weeks in the fall
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Speaker 3: to really dial it in before you're doing install and
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Speaker 3: game prep, so that the timeline is the only thing
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Speaker 3: I worry about with Kevin McGibbon his knowledge of the
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Speaker 3: game's talent and scheme. Not worried about that. It's just
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Speaker 3: a time.
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Speaker 2: You know, we've talked so much on this spring and
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Speaker 2: this offseason about the new offense and mcgiven coming in,
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Speaker 2: Chad Bumpus coming back, things like that. I don't really
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Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people have talked much defensively.
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Speaker 5: What's your read on this defense?
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Speaker 2: I know you had Colton Swan on last week and
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Speaker 2: and I've talked to Colton as well on my podcast,
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Speaker 2: But I'm just you know, there aren't a lot of
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Speaker 2: big names. There aren't the Lander Bartons necessarily, there aren't
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Speaker 2: the uh uh you know, some of the some of
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Speaker 2: the names A Logan Final, We've got a couple. I mean,
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Speaker 2: there's some guys coming back, But I kind of feel
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Speaker 2: like defense hasn't been talked quite about as much as
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Speaker 2: the offense has this offseason. Is that just simply in
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Speaker 2: your mind because people believe, Hey, Rinch wash repeat Utah
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Speaker 2: defense or what's your what's your read on the defense
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Speaker 2: this offseason?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think I think people might feel that way.
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Speaker 3: I think it's far from guaranteed. Now you look at
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Speaker 3: it and you say, well, our head coach is the
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Speaker 3: guy who was coordinating this defense last year, and he
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Speaker 3: trusts Colton Swan to take over, So we think everything's
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Speaker 3: going to be fine there. You've just gotten used to
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Speaker 3: the idea that Utah Football's defense is always going to
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Speaker 3: be good no matter what happens, and I think they
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Speaker 3: will be. I think it's going to look a little
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Speaker 3: bit different, though. I think it's going to be more
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Speaker 3: of a bi committee thing because of what you just mentioned.
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Speaker 3: There's not the obvious big stars. There's not the obvious like, hey,
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Speaker 3: he's definitely going to be an NFL guy on this
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Speaker 3: roster right now, at least on the defensive side of
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Speaker 3: the ball, and that could be a good thing, that
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Speaker 3: could be a bad thing. And I mean Jay Hill
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Speaker 3: did some really wonderful things with a BYU roster that
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Speaker 3: didn't have you know, any megas stars a couple of
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Speaker 3: years ago, and Colton Swan is going to be hyper aggressive.
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Speaker 3: He already is being hyper aggressive. You heard Burd Ficklin
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Speaker 3: like kind of jokingly complaining about it attice after practice
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Speaker 3: the other day. He's just like, man, he doesn't make
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Speaker 3: it easy on us. And that's that's exactly what Colton
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Speaker 3: Swan is.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's the same thing that offense you play complained
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Speaker 2: about Morgan Scalley for years too, that you know the
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Speaker 2: defense might have a bad practice or by their standard
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Speaker 2: of bad practice, and then you knew the next time out,
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Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, Morgan Scalley was raining
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Speaker 2: blitzes down from everywhere and guys were like, okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2: we had a good day yesterday.
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Speaker 5: We didn't have a good day to.
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Speaker 4: Day yeah, And that's that.
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Speaker 3: Look, you want that level of competition as long as
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Speaker 3: you're not hurting each other. And that's another thing that
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Speaker 3: I think bears repeating as many times as we can.
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Speaker 3: They're practicing like hard. This is a very very physical
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Speaker 3: program right now, and they're establishing that tone and that
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Speaker 3: expectation by reducing the amount of thud periods and saying, look,
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Speaker 3: dial it in right now, go full speed. You're not
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Speaker 3: going to get hurt if you're going full speed and
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Speaker 3: he's going full speed. Let's get these good practice reps
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Speaker 3: in get ready for games and earn yourself a spot.
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Speaker 3: And I love the way that that that's the way
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Speaker 3: that Morgan is running this program right now.
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Speaker 2: I know it's way too early, We're sitting here in
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Speaker 2: mid April, but I'm I'm going to say it to you.
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Speaker 5: I've said it on my podcast.
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Speaker 2: I just I think Jackson Benny is a superstar in
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Speaker 2: the making right now for Utah football. I think Jackson
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Speaker 2: Benny has a huge year this year for the Utah defense.
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Speaker 4: I hope they keep him mostly on defense. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 4: you know.
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Speaker 3: I love the versatility of a player like that.
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Speaker 4: But just let the guy ride.
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Speaker 3: His instincts, ride his athleticism, and obviously the incredible coaching
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Speaker 3: he's been getting and he will continue to get, and
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Speaker 3: just let him be a defensive star. I think you
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Speaker 3: have the offensive weapons now that you don't need to
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Speaker 3: use whatever amount of speed you have anywhere.
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Speaker 4: You can. Just let the kid play defense and let
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Speaker 4: him excel.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have an NFL Draft insider coming up here
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Speaker 2: in the next segment. Devin Jackson's going to join US
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Speaker 2: drafts less than two weeks away. Spencer Fano, he may
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Speaker 2: be a tackle, he may be a guard, he may
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Speaker 2: be a center. He's practiced and worked out at all
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Speaker 2: those positions.
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Speaker 5: Well, what's your read.
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Speaker 2: You think he's a top ten pick, top fifteen pick,
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Speaker 2: top five pick.
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Speaker 5: Where do you see? Well?
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Speaker 3: I think that depends on where people think he projects. Right,
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Speaker 3: the fact that he is now kind of dropped into
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Speaker 3: maybe third tackle conversation is not super encouraging from a
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Speaker 3: maximizing your draft spot standpoint, but it also means you're
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Speaker 3: going to end up at a better in a better team.
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Speaker 3: But like you know, if he falls down to fifteen, sixteen,
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Speaker 3: seventeen and they want him to play guard or center,
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Speaker 3: that's not as sexy of a signing bonus.
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Speaker 4: But he's on.
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Speaker 3: A better team, playing for a better franchise, which I
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Speaker 3: think works out longer or better for longer in his career.
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, you don't see it a ton
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Speaker 3: in the NFL, but you might see him play multiple
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Speaker 3: positions in the NFL because of that uncertainty, and whatever
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Speaker 3: team decides they are willing to spend first round capital
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Speaker 3: on him is going to have a plan. I don't
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Speaker 3: know what that plan is going to be, but talking
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Speaker 3: to offensive line insiders, and like, there's not a consensus
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Speaker 3: anymore about whether or not he belongs at that right
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Speaker 3: tackle spot where he played all of or the bulk
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Speaker 3: of his college career, whether he'd be you know, nimble
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Speaker 3: enough and athletic enough inside. And obviously he's a really
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Speaker 3: smart and communicative kid, and that's perfect if you're a center.
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Speaker 3: He's also not enormous compared to other tackles. Compared to
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Speaker 3: me and you and a regular human being, he's enormous,
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Speaker 3: but NFL tackles, like some of those guys are six
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Speaker 3: eight three forty, so he's relatively modest in size compared
17:33
Speaker 3: to some of them. And that I mean, I actually
17:36
Speaker 3: love the idea of him playing center. Maybe not for
17:38
Speaker 3: his own personal wealth, but he'd be a great center
17:41
Speaker 3: and could be a huge asset for a lot of
17:43
Speaker 3: teams there.
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Speaker 2: If he's a starting center for ten years, he his
17:47
Speaker 2: kids and his grandkids will be.
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Speaker 5: Set for life.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Fair.
17:53
Speaker 2: He may not end up getting you know, all time
17:57
Speaker 2: record setting money, but if he if he plays center
17:59
Speaker 2: and play for ten years in the NFL, nobody with
18:02
Speaker 2: the last name Fano that's tied to him will probably
18:05
Speaker 2: worry about much.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that family given you what he
18:11
Speaker 3: and Logan will be able to achieve, and then there's
18:13
Speaker 3: three more boys on their way up the ranks. If
18:16
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, I think that mom and dad and
18:20
Speaker 3: grandma and grandpa and nephews and kids. I think there's
18:23
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of stuff to share around.
18:26
Speaker 2: I think so too. Is Barton drafted or is he
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Speaker 2: a free agent? Is Dalan Bentley drafted or is he
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Speaker 2: a free agent?
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Speaker 3: I think probably late draft in both cases. I actually
18:37
Speaker 3: think Dallan Bentley might get drafted before Lander Barton does
18:41
Speaker 3: because his relative athletics score was a lot better. I
18:45
Speaker 3: think that you've got the sort of, hey, this kid
18:48
Speaker 3: was a bit of a pleasant surprise, rather than he
18:51
Speaker 3: might not have lived up to the height, and that
18:53
Speaker 3: matters the mental weight of that for teams having heard
18:59
Speaker 3: Lander barton name, or knowing Lander Barton's name because of
19:02
Speaker 3: his older brothers being NFL players and seeing his production
19:05
Speaker 3: and saying, oh, man, you know, maybe he didn't produce
19:07
Speaker 3: up to what his recruitment and then his body we thought.
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Speaker 4: He'd be able to do. He had those injury problems.
19:13
Speaker 3: Dallan Bentley was more of like we didn't have this
19:16
Speaker 3: kid on our radar, but now he's burst onto it.
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Speaker 4: And look what he was able to do.
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Speaker 3: He's just a really big, strong, scary athletic guy, and
19:24
Speaker 3: NFL teams cann't find a way to use that.
19:26
Speaker 2: You know, when I look at a guy like lander Barton,
19:29
Speaker 2: I think a perfect a perfect I won't say comp
19:33
Speaker 2: but a situation that could work out well for him.
19:36
Speaker 5: Remember, well, I.
19:37
Speaker 2: Know you do because you're a Colorado Buffalo guy through
19:40
Speaker 2: and through.
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Speaker 5: Nate Landman.
19:42
Speaker 2: Nate Landman, when he was healthy at Colorado was an
19:45
Speaker 2: All Conference caliber linebacker. But Nate Landman battled some injuries
19:50
Speaker 2: and stuff through the years. Well, Nate Landman went undrafted,
19:53
Speaker 2: but guess what. He starts for the LA Rams right
19:55
Speaker 2: now and he's had a fantastic NFL career.
19:58
Speaker 4: Yeah.
19:58
Speaker 3: Nate Landman is a great example of when you know
20:01
Speaker 3: you just you don't always get it right. He didn't
20:03
Speaker 3: run a fast forty. He doesn't have like the measurables
20:07
Speaker 3: that other guys do. It's an incredible physical and very
20:11
Speaker 3: intelligent football player, and that's why when he was in
20:13
Speaker 3: college there was a time where he was leading the
20:16
Speaker 3: nation in tackles, not just his Colorado Buffalo's team. He
20:19
Speaker 3: was leading the nation in tackles for a few weeks,
20:22
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, if Lander can stay healthy, he's
20:26
Speaker 3: got an opportunity to have a nice long NFL career.
20:30
Speaker 3: I also I wish that we would have seen more
20:33
Speaker 3: of him at tight end because he's pretty fluid there. Yeah,
20:36
Speaker 3: the lateral speed isn't isn't the best thing for him,
20:38
Speaker 3: which can be problematic depending on what scheme you play
20:41
Speaker 3: in as a linebacker. But man, when he was when
20:44
Speaker 3: he wasn't playing tight end, you were like, holy cow,
20:47
Speaker 3: this is a very natural thing for him. So I
20:49
Speaker 3: wish we'd seen more of it.
20:50
Speaker 5: Uh, is a card a good win tomorrow?
20:52
Speaker 2: What are we expecting if we tune into four o'clock
20:54
Speaker 2: tomorrow on ESPN two.
20:56
Speaker 4: It really is an awesome card.
20:57
Speaker 3: We got a we got a middleweight co maatee a
21:00
Speaker 3: that's going to factor into the title picture. Jordan Newman
21:02
Speaker 3: is a two time Division two National National Wrestling champion
21:06
Speaker 3: who's just a physical freak going up against the guy
21:10
Speaker 3: named Josh Silveda, who's the son of one of the
21:13
Speaker 3: foundational legends of mixed martial arts in America. His dad
21:17
Speaker 3: Conan slveda established American top team which is now the
21:21
Speaker 3: best gym in the sport in the world. So he
21:24
Speaker 3: was literally raised on the mats, which is pretty cool.
21:27
Speaker 3: And then in the main event, Sergio Pettis, the younger
21:29
Speaker 3: brother of Anthony Pettis. The Pettis brothers have been big stars,
21:32
Speaker 3: are some of the most dynamic strikers you're going.
21:34
Speaker 4: To find in the game.
21:35
Speaker 3: And the winner of that when he takes on Mitch McKee,
21:38
Speaker 3: who's a former University of Minnesota All American wrestler. Winner
21:42
Speaker 3: of that will be fighting for the bantamweight championship next
21:46
Speaker 3: time we see them.
21:46
Speaker 2: Sergio, any relation to former Washington Husky return man Dante
21:51
Speaker 2: Pettis and Gary Pettis's father, I only wish.
21:55
Speaker 3: I only wish, and he probably does too, because he'd
21:58
Speaker 3: be a lot taller if that were if they were related.
22:00
Speaker 3: But no, Sergio and his brother Anthony are legends here
22:05
Speaker 3: in the Midwest. They're from the Milwaukee area, and you
22:09
Speaker 3: know there's several fighting families, but that is like a
22:12
Speaker 3: young American modern one, and Anthony was the UFC champ.
22:16
Speaker 3: Sergio has been a Bellator champion. Now he wants PFL gold,
22:20
Speaker 3: but he's got to win a couple more fights to
22:21
Speaker 3: make it happen.
22:22
Speaker 2: All right, Go enjoy Wrigleyville and won't take too much
22:24
Speaker 2: more of your time. Thanks for letting me sit in today,
22:26
Speaker 2: have a great call Tomorrow'll talk to you.
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Speaker 4: Next week, all right, Thanks Bill, Appreciate you, Thank.
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Speaker 5: You, Sean.
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Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell making an appearance on his show Today from Chicago,
22:36
Speaker 2: where he'll be calling PFL tomorrow afternoon on ESPN two
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Speaker 2: at four