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- 0:00I want you to imagine you're diving into a shallow bay where your fin
- 0:03stir up a lush green carpet beneath you, a carpet that hides sea turtles,
- 0:09juvenile fish, and secrets of the sea.
- 0:12Now imagine that carpet shrinking, thinning, and changing color
- 0:17vanishing patch by patch.
- 0:19That's what scientists are seeing today in Moreton Bay, Australia, and it's a warning
- 0:23for every coast, including our own.
- 0:26We're gonna be discussing the disappearing Seagrass Meadows over a decadal, or
- 0:31more than a decade study of this area and why we need to protect it as well
- 0:37as other seagrasses around the world.
- 0:38On this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean Podcast, let's start the show.
- 0:43Hey everybody.
- 0:44Welcome back to another exciting episode of the How to Protect the Ocean Podcast.
- 0:47I'm your host, Andrew Lewin, and this is the podcast where you find
- 0:49out what's happening with the ocean, how you can speak up for the ocean,
- 0:52and what you can do to live for a better ocean by taking action.
- 0:56And I'm telling you right now, this is a special episode.
- 1:00It's special for a number of reasons.
- 1:01One.
- 1:02I'm discussing a habitat that I really, really enjoy.
- 1:04It's called the Seagrass Meadow.
- 1:06Seagrasses are extremely important.
- 1:08We're gonna get into it, why they're so important today, but today is
- 1:11very special because I have been wanting to do this for a long time.
- 1:16I would like to kick off the project called the Seagrass Effect.
- 1:20It is going to be a Seagrass podcast that's gonna share research, conservation
- 1:25and restoration news from around the world about seagrasses on a podcast.
- 1:30Its very own seagrass podcast called The Seagrass Effect.
- 1:34It's going to be part of the Speak Up for Blue Podcast Network, and I am
- 1:38doing a crowdfunding for this podcast, the Seagrass Effect on a crowdfunding
- 1:44site, a new crowdfunding site specific
- 1:46for Ocean Projects called balean.org.
- 1:49You may have seen me interview the founders, Sanders and Bart
- 1:53Oor on this podcast at some point in time over the summer.
- 1:56I did it twice, actually.
- 1:57Talked about collaboration.
- 1:58Now we are capitalizing.
- 2:00They have launched a site, balean.org.
- 2:02They have launched a number of projects including mine, where I'm
- 2:04trying to raise money to launch this podcast, and I'm trying to do it
- 2:09for the new year, and what you can do is you can donate your
- 2:13money to get this podcast going.
- 2:15And the reason I'm doing this is because I want this to be your
- 2:18podcast, not just my podcast.
- 2:20I want this to be your podcast.
- 2:22This is a podcast where we're gonna find out what's happening with seagrasses.
- 2:26We're gonna find out what research is going on.
- 2:28We're gonna find out about the restoration efforts that are
- 2:30happening around the world, and of course, the conservation efforts
- 2:33that are happening around the world.
- 2:35It's going to be awesome.
- 2:36We're gonna hear from people all over the world.
- 2:38I can't wait for it.
- 2:39So if you wanna donate and get this thing going, you can go to
- 2:43speak up for blue.com/seagrass.
- 2:46It'll take you right to my Balean page for my project.
- 2:49You can donate right there.
- 2:50You can also donate to Balean to support their work in all the
- 2:54other projects that they're doing.
- 2:55Check it out.
- 2:56That's speak up for blue.com/.
- 2:58Sea grass.
- 2:59Now you're wondering, Andrew, why seagrass?
- 3:01Why not coral reefs?
- 3:02Why not the deep sea?
- 3:03There's so many other ways we can do.
- 3:04It's because we don't know a lot about seagrasses and it's not really
- 3:09a thing that we discuss every day.
- 3:11You see on beautiful documentaries of coral reefs, it is wonderful to see.
- 3:15But the sea grasses, they kind of have a bum wrap.
- 3:18They are green, they are lush and they handle a lot of biodiversity, but we just
- 3:24don't really understand how important they are to coastal ecosystems, how important
- 3:29they are to fisheries, how important they are to protecting our coastline.
- 3:34Now I've been talking about it on this podcast for a long time, but when you
- 3:38dive or go snorkeling on a seagrass meadow, you never know what to expect.
- 3:42You really don't.
- 3:43It is phenomenal to see.
- 3:45Case in point, I was snorkeling with my brother.
- 3:48We were going out, we were in the Grand Cayman.
- 3:50We were on a family trip.
- 3:51My brother and I decided to go around the corner, around the
- 3:54coast corner, catch a wave.
- 3:56Like catch a current and come back around into this massive bay.
- 3:59So we go, we get a drive, we go to this corner, we hit a
- 4:02bunch of rocks, we go diving in.
- 4:04We have snorkels, we have a mask, we have a buoy just in
- 4:06case we get lost, God forbid.
- 4:08And we don't really know exactly what we're doing or where we're going,
- 4:10but we're told this current will just kind of take us into this bay.
- 4:13So we follow the current and we see, you know, like little sharks.
- 4:16As old, my brother said he saw a massive shark, but it's a
- 4:18little four foot nurse shark.
- 4:20We see a bunch of fish, we see a number of different corals, and we see these rock
- 4:24scapes and sea turtles and everything.
- 4:26It is wonderful.
- 4:27We start to come in closer to the bay.
- 4:29Now, there was a bit of a current that took us in, but it wasn't
- 4:32taking us right into the bay.
- 4:34So we had to kick, kick, kick as much as possible to get into the bay.
- 4:37But once we did, we got into very shallow water.
- 4:40We're probably looking at about maybe four feet, three to four feet, and my
- 4:44brother and I are just kind of going over and we're going over a sea grass meadow.
- 4:47And as we're going over this seagrass meadow, we start to see this movement
- 4:51of all these fish and all these little invertebrates, these little shrimp
- 4:54that are in the seagrass meadow.
- 4:56They're hiding in the blades of these plants, of these
- 4:58specialized aquatic plants.
- 5:00And they're starting to like move away from us as we kind of
- 5:02come across and then we see it.
- 5:04We see this massive stingray just hovering right above the seagrass meadow.
- 5:09It was incredible.
- 5:12So incredible that I went, holy cow.
- 5:14Like yelled it out into my snorkel.
- 5:16So more sound like, holy cow.
- 5:18It was awesome.
- 5:19We enjoyed it.
- 5:20We talked about it forever.
- 5:21And once we got to shore, we had a couple beers and we were talking about how cool
- 5:25and how lick the size of that stingray.
- 5:26And my brother, who is not a marine biologist, who doesn't
- 5:29snorkel or doesn't screw.
- 5:30Couldn't believe how much life was in these seagrasses, and this
- 5:35is why they are so important.
- 5:37One of the reasons why they are so important.
- 5:39They provide so much biodiversity and so much protection for juvenile fish.
- 5:44These little larva and growing larvae of invertebrates is just the amount of
- 5:50biodiversity sometimes, and oftentimes outweighs and outperforms and out
- 5:54produces the biodiversity of coral reefs and this is why it's so important.
- 5:59We just don't know about it.
- 6:01'cause we don't talk about it a lot.
- 6:02And there are a lot of researchers out there that are talking about a
- 6:05project seagrass, a numbers, a network of researchers that are doing in
- 6:08Europe and along the coastlines in North America and all over the world.
- 6:12And so we need to talk more about it.
- 6:14But today we're gonna be focusing on Moreton Bay in Australia because there
- 6:18was this long-term study, 19 years I believe was the study and it was
- 6:24absolutely phenomenal in this study.
- 6:27It was a study that was able to document a long-term decline.
- 6:32I know you're like, Andrew, why are you getting so excited about this?
- 6:35A long-term decline in a number of different indicators, I guess is what
- 6:38you'd call it, a number of different indicators of seagrass health.
- 6:42And the difference here is that the long-term study shows this long-term
- 6:46decline, but there are a lot of short-term studies that happen.
- 6:49We'll talk about that in a little bit that don't show this long-term decline, and
- 6:53that is where we lose the pieces of how healthy a Seagrass meadow actually is.
- 6:59But first, before we get into that, I wanted to talk a
- 7:02little bit about Moreton Bay.
- 7:04'cause Moreton Bay is a special area.
- 7:06And I've got some stuff that was written, I did a little research
- 7:09here that I have to remember.
- 7:10there was a lot of stuff to talk about, but essentially it's a large,
- 7:13shallow, semi enclosed coastal embankment in Australia, located in
- 7:18southeastern Queensland, Australia, adjacent to the city of Brisbane.
- 7:21So Brisbane, we know Brisbane.
- 7:23It's a coastline town on the east coast of Australia, it's on the Barrier Reef.
- 7:27It's just beautiful.
- 7:28The Moreton Bay stretches roughly about 125 kilometers from Kundra in the north
- 7:33to the Gold Coast in the South, covering an area above 1500 square kilometers.
- 7:38The bay is shielded from the Coral sea by a chain of long sandy
- 7:43barrier islands, Moreton Island,
- 7:45North Strat, broke Island and South Strat, broke Island, which create
- 7:49calm, protected waters inside.
- 7:51This is where the meadows, these sea grass meadows could actually, basically
- 7:54live and thrive in these areas.
- 7:56Now, the base depth average is around 10 meters, making it an ideal
- 8:00environment for seagrass meadows, mangroves, and tidal flats, which
- 8:04together form one of Australia's most productive coastal ecosystems.
- 8:07These habitats support an incredible diversity of life.
- 8:11Dugongs, green sea turtles, dolphins, migratory shorebirds, and
- 8:16hundreds of fish species, depending on the bay's rich food webs.
- 8:21Now several rivers, including the Brisbane, Logan and Pine Rivers flow
- 8:25into Moreton Bay carrying sediments and nutrients from the surrounding catchments.
- 8:29The mix of freshwater and seawater creates gradients of salinity and turbidity that
- 8:33influence the distribution of marine vegetation such as sea grass, however.
- 8:37The same river inflows can also bring pollutants and sediments from urban
- 8:41and agricultural areas, threatening the Bay's water quality, which we're
- 8:45gonna get into in just a little bit.
- 8:46Moreton Bay is part of Moreton Bay Park, established in 1993
- 8:50to protect its ecological, cultural and recreational values.
- 8:53The park encompasses both protected zones and areas open to sustainable
- 8:57fishing, boating, and tourism.
- 8:59This looks like a multi management system, just like the Great Barrier Reef.
- 9:02Obviously not in the same size.
- 9:04In addition to its ecological importance, the Bay holds deep cultural significance
- 9:08to the Quandamooka people, the traditional custodians of the region
- 9:11who have maintained connections to these waters for thousands of years through
- 9:15fishing ceremony and stewardship.
- 9:18Today, Moreton Bay is a living laboratory where scientists study
- 9:21coastal change, habitat restoration and the effects of climate and
- 9:24human activity on marine ecosystems.
- 9:27It represents both a biodiversity hotspot and a warning system showing
- 9:32how quickly coastal environments can change when pressures like development,
- 9:36pollution, and extreme weather converge.
- 9:38So in this study, decal monitoring shows seagrass decline and community shifts
- 9:43following environmental disturbance in Moreton Bay, Southeastern Queensland.
- 9:46Australia is such a long, long, long title.
- 9:49The Decadal range covered between 2004 and 2023.
- 9:53So there's a long range.
- 9:54Now, what's nice about this is no matter what disturbances happen, so we talked
- 9:58about earlier I mentioned how there's like storm events or flood events.
- 10:01These things have short term effects on a seagrass meadows.
- 10:04So if you're looking at short term, you can see that the seagrass meadows is
- 10:07probably ruined or uprooted in some areas.
- 10:10May shrink in size after a flood or after some sort of major storm event.
- 10:14But it quickly, in about one or two years, come back to a normal
- 10:17size, but not all the time.
- 10:19Sometimes bigger, sometimes smaller, depending on what's happening after that.
- 10:23However, when you look at a long-term study 19 years between
- 10:272004 and 2023, you start to see how the patches are getting smaller.
- 10:32And what's happening.
- 10:33So some of the disturbance events that happened with major flood cyclones
- 10:37and water quality fluctuations allowed scientists to evaluate how their
- 10:40seagrass Meadows responded and recovered or even failed to recover over time.
- 10:45So I thought it was really cool.
- 10:46They looked at seagrass extent.
- 10:47species of actual seagrasses and resilience to environmental
- 10:51disturbances in Moreton Bay, Queensland.
- 10:54So that's what they're looking for.
- 10:55So what they noticed was that the total seagrass cover declined.
- 10:59The overall area of Seagrass Meadows in Eastern Banks of
- 11:02Moreton Bay shrunk compared to the early two thousands Baseline.
- 11:05The loss was most pronounced after major disturbance events, such
- 11:08as extreme rainfall, flooding
- 11:10and resulting turbidity which reduce light penetration and smothered sea grass.
- 11:15Species diversity and dominance changed.
- 11:18There was a decline in species richness.
- 11:19So the number of species which sensitive species like Halophila ovalis and Halodule
- 11:25uninervis, sorry for my mispronounced of the species names losing ground
- 11:29in some areas.
- 11:30They lost ground in some areas.
- 11:31These were often replaced or out competed by more tolerant, opportunistic species
- 11:36that can handle the turbidity and the unstable conditions indicating that a
- 11:39shift in community structure happen.
- 11:40Now, this is really interesting because when you start to see these
- 11:44shifts from like more sensitive to disturbance a species to a more tolerant
- 11:49species, this is very similar to what we're seeing happen in a lot of
- 11:53coral reef areas.
- 11:55A lot of the corals, like the branching corals are a little bit more sensitive
- 11:58to temperature change or pH change.
- 12:01We're starting to see them functionally extinct in certain
- 12:03areas like Key West, which is very disturbing, and to even see that.
- 12:07It's not something we wanna see.
- 12:09It's the precursor to like actual extinction in specific areas, but we're
- 12:13seeing a more tolerant species stay around like the softer corals that can
- 12:17handle these different types of species, which was predicted a long, long time ago
- 12:21when we start to look at how climate change was gonna affect coral reefs.
- 12:24It is kind of interesting to see that it's the same thing happening with a
- 12:27lot of different species, especially in these important, important habitats.
- 12:30Now, we also saw change in habitat quality and density that decrease.
- 12:34So seagrass biomass and chute density.
- 12:37So the chutes are like underneath, fell in several monitoring zones, meaning less
- 12:41habitat, complexity for marine life such as turtles, dugongs, and fish nurseries.
- 12:46And then of course, these declines reduce the bay's blue carbon capacity.
- 12:50Now these seagrass meadows have the ability to sequester carbon.
- 12:53That means they can keep carbon inside, not only their aquatic
- 12:57plants, but also in the root system, which is really interesting.
- 13:00So the fact that they lose that the ability, it's the ability to score
- 13:03carbon and the ecosystem resilience of having a diverse and more complex system
- 13:08of Seagrass Meadows.
- 13:09It'll actually lead to further environmental change down the road.
- 13:12So, in short, the study documented decrease in seagrass area species
- 13:16diversity and structural health with long-term implications for
- 13:19biodiversity, carbon storage, and coastal ecosystem stability.
- 13:23That is essentially what the study covered . This is something that
- 13:26is not good when we look at how we monitor and manage these areas.
- 13:31Now, the monitoring is important.
- 13:33Having this long-term study where short-term studies can see quick
- 13:37recovery after storms or flooding doesn't necessarily mean that it's going
- 13:41better.
- 13:41What they notice is that the patches kept getting smaller and smaller
- 13:45over the years, but when you see like a patch get really, really small
- 13:47and then grow back, you're like, oh, it actually did really well.
- 13:49Within a year or two, it started to come back.
- 13:51That means it must be coming back.
- 13:53But when you look at the 19 year data set and you start to see
- 13:56these patches over time getting smaller and smaller, even though the
- 13:59fluctuation kind of goes, it shrinks and then grows and shrinks and grows.
- 14:02It's growing smaller and smaller.
- 14:04It doesn't have the time to recover.
- 14:06I assume what would happen if it's in a healthy state and these storms come
- 14:10in, they break down maybe a specific habitat, shrink it in its size and maybe
- 14:14even species diversity or even just size.
- 14:16Having that species diversity still there can allow it to grow back to its
- 14:20original size if it's given the time.
- 14:22But the frequency of those storms, the frequency of those flood events, the
- 14:26frequency of those disturbances with other cumulative effects like increased
- 14:30nutrients or sediment that can actually smother these plants is not going to help
- 14:35when we're looking at long-term data sets or long-term health of the seagrasses.
- 14:40So that's something that needs to improve.
- 14:43So here's what the study authors kind of said between the two things.
- 14:47Obviously we need more decadal study, we need more long-term data
- 14:50sets and continued monitoring.
- 14:52That's something that's really big.
- 14:53So that's something that really needs to help.
- 14:55So we need to improve water quality.
- 14:57The study identified turbidity and nutrient runoff, especially
- 15:00from catchments that are key drivers to sea grass decline.
- 15:03Looking at sediments and nutrient loads entering Moreton Bay by improving
- 15:06catchment manages, especially around the Brisbane and Logan Rivers.
- 15:09So those are two rivers that cause the most damage.
- 15:12Actions include strengthening the erosion control or on
- 15:15agricultural and construction lands.
- 15:16That'll be really important.
- 15:18Upgrading stormwater and wastewater treatment infrastructure.
- 15:20Restoring riparian vegetation and filter runoff before it
- 15:24enters the coastal waters.
- 15:25All three of these things can be done.
- 15:27That's the good news.
- 15:28All three of these things can be done if the political will and the money is
- 15:32there to help these seagrass meadows.
- 15:34That can be done.
- 15:36That's not difficult to do.
- 15:37That's been done before, and it can be done again.
- 15:40So don't let people tell you that it can't be done, that
- 15:42this restoration or protection, long-term protection can be done.
- 15:46You can also maintain and expand long-term monitoring.
- 15:49That's something that's gonna be really good.
- 15:50Monitoring costs money.
- 15:51Now you can use like remote sensing.
- 15:53You can use drone footage.
- 15:55You can use just regular monitoring, quadrat studies and
- 15:59so forth, quadrat monitoring.
- 16:00And that can be done by students and by academic institutions
- 16:03and by nonprofit organizations.
- 16:04These things are not quite expensive, although the resources are expensive.
- 16:07Obviously drones are expensive.
- 16:09Satellite imagery can be costly if it's not freely available.
- 16:12But you can actually tell a lot from this.
- 16:14But it costs money.
- 16:15It costs resources like people and, materials and stuff to actually
- 16:18do this kind of monitoring.
- 16:19And it can get expensive at time.
- 16:21I've seen this before with long-term monitoring studies is that you'll see
- 16:24like gaps during those certain years where funding was either taken away
- 16:28or at reallocated to something else.
- 16:30But as long as you have that long-term data set and you keep
- 16:33coming back and allowing it to kind of grow and grow and grow.
- 16:36You can get back into a better state with these long-term monitoring data sets.
- 16:41You can manage the disturbance impact.
- 16:43So Seagrass lost in Moreton Bay was strongly linked to extreme weather events.
- 16:47So obviously you can't stop the weather events, floods and storms.
- 16:49And of course there are turbidity pulses.
- 16:51However, the authors suggest proactive measures to mitigate and manage
- 16:55disturbances, such as protecting refuge meadows, so areas that are
- 16:58less impacted by runoff or turbidity to allow them to serve as a seed and
- 17:02propag resources for the recovery.
- 17:05So allow them to be like they're in good shape even during these storm areas.
- 17:09So allow them to, you know, like they'll have their seeds and allow
- 17:13them to restore the rest of the reef.
- 17:15Use that as a source.
- 17:17You can implement rapid response plans after major disturbances to assess
- 17:20and assist recovery, for instance, by reducing local stressors like
- 17:24boat damage or dredging after runoff.
- 17:27So let's not put more impact on them after these big stressors.
- 17:31Let's put less impact by doing that right after.
- 17:33And maybe just short term responses.
- 17:35You can protect high quality habitats.
- 17:37So we kind of mentioned it earlier before.
- 17:39They emphasize protecting remaining healthy seagrass meadows from physical
- 17:43disturbances such as anchoring, dredging, and coastal development.
- 17:46I've had the project Seagrasses guys, and, team on this podcast a number of times.
- 17:51The biggest thing that they said is anchoring.
- 17:52So having a buoy system where you can actually, the boats can like
- 17:55link up to a buoy system so they don't put their anchors down.
- 17:57They can stay in one spot to do whatever they need to do.
- 17:59That will be really helpful.
- 18:00Let's limit dredging and then of coastal development.
- 18:03Of course.
- 18:03And then expanding and strengthening marine park zoning in Moreton Bay
- 18:07was highlighted as a way to ensure these meadowss remain functional and
- 18:11can recolonize degradated areas.
- 18:13And then, support active restoration and research.
- 18:15That's gonna be very important.
- 18:16Restoration is very expensive, so you can support that.
- 18:18That would be great.
- 18:19So active restoration, such as transplanting sea grass shoots,
- 18:22reseeding, and improving substrate stability is always helpful.
- 18:26They encourage further research in restoration techniques, light thresholds
- 18:30for recovery and the resilience traits of local species to inform
- 18:33large scale restoration planning.
- 18:35And then finally address climate and cumulative stressors.
- 18:38We know what we need to do to do that.
- 18:40Let's limit our emissions, include protecting deeper, cooler water meadows,
- 18:45and identifying potential migration zones for seagrass as conditions shift.
- 18:49So the big thing is reduce local stressors.
- 18:51So pollution, turbidity, dredging, sustaining long-term monitoring
- 18:54to track trends like we're already doing, protecting and restoring key
- 18:58habitats, and integrating climate resilience into coastal management.
- 19:02That's what we need to do.
- 19:03So we have the problem, we have the area, we have the problem that it's
- 19:06facing, and we have the solutions now we need to implement it.
- 19:10And what's interesting about this.
- 19:12You know, like I said, I love seagrasses.
- 19:13I almost did a PhD on Seagrasses.
- 19:15but the one thing that's interesting to me about this, and the project that I'm
- 19:19putting on for the Seagrass effect is that people who donate to the Seagrass effect,
- 19:23we're gonna be taking a portion of that money and we're gonna be helping restore a
- 19:27site of seagrasses somewhere in the world.
- 19:30And we're gonna just keep going.
- 19:32As long as the Seagrass effect is going, we're gonna continue to support
- 19:35Seagrass restoration by your donation.
- 19:38So, par of the Seagrass donation is not only gonna go to the Seagrass effect,
- 19:42the podcast to produce podcasts, to share resources, to share research, to share
- 19:47conservation efforts, and to share tactics among scientists who also listen to this.
- 19:52'cause one thing that I learned about doing podcasting is that
- 19:55researchers will listen to it.
- 19:56Early career scientists will listen to it.
- 19:58Scientists will listen to the podcast 'cause they wanna find out what
- 20:00their colleagues are doing or they wanna find out what somebody in their
- 20:03particular area are doing that's different from them or where they can
- 20:06collaborate or they can learn from.
- 20:08And so just by having this podcast, we are actually into integrating, sharing
- 20:12of knowledge for people around the world on a regular basis, once a week basis.
- 20:17That's the goal.
- 20:18Once a week we release an interview episode.
- 20:20That's the goal for this, and I can't wait to bring it to you.
- 20:23On top of that, we're gonna help an active seagrass restoration site.
- 20:27We're gonna help do that.
- 20:28We're gonna come in on the project and we're gonna talk about the increase
- 20:31of what we were able to accomplish and what that site is able to do.
- 20:34You're gonna be a part of that restoration process.
- 20:37It's gonna be a lot of fun.
- 20:38I can't wait for you to do it.
- 20:39So if you go to speak up for blue.com/.
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- 20:46All one word.
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- 20:50the Seagrass Effect podcast.
- 20:52I can't wait for you to see it.
- 20:53I can't wait to do it, to be honest, but I need.
- 20:56That initial money to start this project.
- 20:58It's expensive, it's time consuming, and I wanna make sure that I do this right.
- 21:01So, the Seagrass Effect, speak up for blue.com/seagrass is
- 21:05where you can go to donate.
- 21:06And of course, if you wanna find out any of the resources,
- 21:09just check in the show notes.
- 21:10And if you have a question, a comment, love to hear it.
- 21:12Let me know in the comments below.
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- 21:44I'm your host, Andrew Lewin from the True North Strong and Free.
- 21:46Have a great day.
- 21:47We'll talk to you next time and happy conservation.