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It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with a
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w fan Hub. And in this episode, we'll be talking about some of
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the hot topics in the AAW fan Hub community and will also preview tomorrow night's
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AW Dynamite Valentine's Day edition from Austin, Texas. This is Kelson and this
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is Alex and yeah, let's get right into it. I think we both
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want to talk about three big free agents that we know are coming into AW
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in the next one to six weeks time. We're gonna have Mercedes, Monet,
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Okata, and Will Osprey showing up. Will Osprey just finished up New
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Japan. He had that. I watched the event the other day that Jose
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an insane, absolutely insane cage match. And I don't think like New Japan
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doesn't do hardcore matches typically. I think they had one with like John Moxley,
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but it's not. And this match was just insane. It was like
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Wrestle Dream the Christian cage match where okay, he'll depart the ring and like
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all that insanity with Darby. It was like that, but with ten guys
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in the ring. And yeah, it was madness, so so we'll Ospray
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lost at the end, he looked the beating up. I saw like him
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his exit, you know from the arena where he was basically thanking the crowd
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and bawling his eyes out, which I love that kind of respect from the
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wrestlers to the audience, you know. But I did get to see the
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match. Yeah, No, he gets such a great reaction in Japan,
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like, and he was crying. He was very emotional. They all when
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his music plays, there's this one part where everyone just like yells a spray,
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which we'll see if that continues in AEW. I hope so. But
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yeah, I mean he's one of the biggest stars in New Japan. I
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think he's tremendous. He's only thirty years old. He's like the same age
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as like Sammy Guvara. He's right, you know, he's really one of
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the younger guys on AW roster in like in the wrestling industry, and he's
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an established top talent. And now he's coming into AW in the next couple
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of weeks. Well they said not tomorrow night, but the twenty first Dynamite,
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the twenty first next Wednesday. He is slated to make his debut Okay,
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so it's it's basically announced he's gonna have a match at least show up.
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He's gonna at least show up because he is going to be wrestling at
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Revolution and they need to set something up for him before he gets here.
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Okay, So yeah, I guess putting our fantasy booking hats on and thinking
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about what they're gonna do with Ospray, and we'll talk about Mercedes Money and
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Ocata as well. But so Osprey's coming in and he's already kind of established
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himself as part of the don Kallas family, right, But I feel like
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he's not gonna be coming in as the bad guy and he's not going to
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be coming in as a gel as part of the don Kallis family. That
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just feels like that would be wrong in my opinion, because I feel like,
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you know, he's a hot talent that's gonna be like one of their
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main events going forward, and I just feel like it would be a mistake
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bringing him in as a bad guy with the don Kallis family. So I'm
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predicting that he gets debuted, like saving saving Chris Jericho, interjecting himself into
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that feud so to set up a three way or sorry, a trios match
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at Revolution with Sammy Guvara, Jericho, will Osprey versus Kyle Fletcher, Powerhouse
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Hobbs, and Kenoski Dakeshta as the Don Callis family. So that's I mean,
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part of me it thinks that that's kind of a disappointing start for Osprey,
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but I think it's also just a good way to feature him and kind
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of slowly integrate him into things and then he can do move on to bigger
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and better things after that. But that's kind of my prediction for how they
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bring in will Osprey, And I'm wondering what you think, Kelson. Well,
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Alex, look, I'm kind of with you and I'm but I got
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a little bit of a different take. As we know when you look at
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the Don Kallus family final, Fletcher has not been doing well. Uh he's
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kind of gotten the ire of Don Gallus because of losses. Yes, he's
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the Ring of Honor television champion, but he just recently lost to Christ Jericho,
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so he's not getting the job done. What I think is going to
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happen is that you'll bring out Don Kallas and Powerhouse Hobbs and Kenoski Daqushta and
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Iole Fletcher, and maybe they do the whole thing where they have the portraits
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covered in ah in, you know, with the drape, you know,
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and this is where this is where Don Kallas has our house hobbs At Takeshta
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moved to beat up Kyle Fletcher. Well who comes out to save Kyle Fletcher
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but his old running mate basically not a partner, but running mate, but
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Will Osprey, And I think what you set up there is going to be
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Kyle Fletcher and Will Osprey against Pakeshta at hobbes At Revolution, you know,
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and I like mine a little bit better because, you know, frankly,
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I really don't want to see Jericho in that kind of match because it's been
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done before, you know. I want to see, you know, somebody
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and maybe you know, something else happens. I don't know if Mark Davis's
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recovered from his injury. I did look it up, but I really can't
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find much on him. But if Callus brings somebody else into the Don Callis
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family, maybe we have Mark Davis come in to stand next to Osprey and
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Fletcher. You know, Ossie open, let's do it, you know,
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like I like your idea. Yeah, I like your idea a lot better
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than mine. I just feel like Jericho. I feel like he has some
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poll in what happens in his matches, and god, I just imagine him
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being involved because he's already there with the Donkllis family doing whatever. But I
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like you, I like your idea a lot better. I get real uncomfortable
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with Jericho because, look, he's earned every ounce of respect that he can
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possibly get. But there comes a time where absence makes the heart grow fonder,
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and you know, he needs to take a break and he needs to
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recharge the engines. I guess it's the best way to put it. So,
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Alex, let's talk about another. So we know that Osprey is going
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to debut on February twenty first, next week's Dynamite Big Business. I believe
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pretty much everybody believes that Mercedes Monett is going to debut. This one's a
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little bit tricky for me, But what about you. What do you think
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is going to be Mercedes Bonett's first feud or maybe even an alliance. I
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think he's gonna just basically very similar to how Dianna Prazzo debuted. I think
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she's gonna slide right into the feud with Tony Storm. I think Tony Storm's
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gonna definitely retain the belt at Revolution, and I think her versus Mercedes Monet
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could be a really interesting feud because I think Mercedes Monet she's this big star,
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and then Tony Storm with her weird, you know, old timey starlit
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thing, now she can become like the jealous waning star who's kind of jealous
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of Mercedes Monett who's now showed up and like outshine Tony Storm. So I
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think it's a way to pretty much put the title on Mercedes Monet right at
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the next pay per view after Revolution, have her have a pretty cool feud
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with Tony Storm, have Tony Storm descend even further into madness, and it
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kind of sets Tony Storm, maybe like Mariah May, ends up costing Tony
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the belt, and now we have Mercedes Monet as the champion, and it's
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hard for me to predict where they go with Mercedes after that point, but
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I think to me, that's kind of what makes the most sense to me,
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is putting the belt right on her because she's a big deal and just
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kind of establishing her right away and I think, yeah, they could be
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a pretty fun viewed with Tony Storm in there. So, Kelson, what
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is your prediction for Mercedes Monette? Once again, I am almost totally on
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the opposite spectrum as you are. I do not think that she's going to
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be going after the World Championship belt because I don't think that AW wants to
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shoot their shot that soon. I think they want to build something with Mercedes
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Monet. I think with Mercedes mone you're going to see her be I don't
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want to say disruptive, but she's going to change the culture in the women's
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division and maybe even in the men's division. I really do think that she's
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to come in as the boss, as the CEO of the women's division.
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And the first thing that's gonna happen is that they are going to announce,
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you know, much to the chagrid of a lot of people, but something
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that I've been wanting for a long time. They are going to announce the
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AW World Women's Tag Team Title Belt. They will probably uh get announce a
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tournament because you know, Tony Connin loves tournaments and and get that off the
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ground. I think that Mercedes Monette will probably uh I want. I want
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to say that she's going to maybe even sit this one out. I think
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she's just gonna run things and she's just gonna insert herself. I don't know.
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I don't see unless they bring somebody in, whether like Megan Baine or
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Camille to be your tag partner. I don't really see any of the current
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women in aw And the reason why I say that Mercedes Monet is going to
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go for the World Championship is because we've already set things up with Diana Parozzo.
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You got thunder Rosa, who never lost a championship, but Tony Storm
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got it in a tournament after Rosa got injured. She's sitting there waiting and
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ready. So I think you're I think we're going to put an emphasis on
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the tag team division here for the women. What I do think is going
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to happen, if anything, as I said, I don't think that Mercedes
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is going to go after the Women's World Championship. I don't think she's going
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to go after the TBS Championship either. If anything, she will start a
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feud, but I think it's going to be slow burn. I really do,
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and I do think the first championship belt that she goes for while she's
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in AW is going to be a forbidden door. She's going to go over
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after the iwgp UH Women's Championship with against Mayo Huatani. I believe, I
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really do believe that that's going to be her first title shot. Mm hmm.
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So yeah, so that's true. That's my that's just my thoughts.
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I mean, I just don't think that AW is gonna shoot her shot with
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Mercedes because if she goes and she wins the championship right away, where do
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you go from there? Yeah, that's true. I think like the three
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of them, I just kind of I felt like one needed to be right
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in the championship picture, and she kind of made the most sense for me.
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But I mean, I have no idea. I'm just making stuff up,
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and I think we're both in the same boat. But yeah, and
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I really like the tag team idea. I was just running through my head,
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like who are the tag team the women tag teams? Oh god,
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there's tons of them out there that Willow and stat Yeah, Willow and Staff,
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Juliet Sky you have. You could have Tony Storm and Mariah May.
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You could have Thunderstorm comeback, Tony Storm, and thunder Rosa. You know,
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something could happen there. Yeah, Nile Rosa, Marina Shaffir. Of
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course, you got Billy Starks and Athena, the Renegade Twins, my gosh,
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I mean you got you know, you could even throw like I would
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love to see a Karashida and Serenade team up. That would just be amazing
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to me. That would just get a pop from me. You know,
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you know, Rijo and Yukosaka Zaki could could be a thing. Megan Meghan
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Bain and Gionna Parazzo or I mean, there's just there's so many things that
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they can do. They really can. I mean, I'm just throwing names
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out there, but some of them make absolute sense. Some of them don't
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make any sense at all. Yeah, that's cool when you just have two
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random people you throw together and se what happens. I guess like Page and
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the Sorry Sorayah and the other the last remaining outcast Ruby so they don't get
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no. I think I think Ruby so may have disbanded the out o.
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Harley Cameron, Yeah, Harley Cameron. I don't know if she can actually
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wrestle, but she can. She's done some matches. Yeah, Okay,
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cool cool. I mean so I mean you've got you got you've got tag
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teams out there, yeah, very few. Hey, you'd never know,
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maybe uh Tymello comes back and j Yeah. Yeah. So so I mean
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there's there's all kinds of things that could happen. Yeah. No, I
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really like that idea. That's cool. So then Fightful Select this is the
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one that I really don't have a clue at. Fightful Select is reported that
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Okata is also coming to a w What are they going to do, Alex?
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What are they gonna do with with Okada? I think here, do
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you want to go first? I think I went first the first time.
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I'll go first again. Of the three, I think Okada is going to
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come in as the biggest of the baby faces. M h Ausbrey is going
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to be a baby face, but he's going to kind of be like one
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of those you know, love to hate him or hate to love him kind
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of guys. You know you just can't get away from, kind of like
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the way you were with MJF. I mean, you either hate it or
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be loved it, but you could wait to see him, you know what
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I mean. Monette is just gonna be Monette and I think that she's of
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the three, I think she's gonna be presented the most as the outright heel
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because she's going to come in with attitude, ego and she's going to rub
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people the wrong way because of it. And I think that's where she's not
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going to have a specific feud. I think she's gonna tick off half the
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women's locker room k fad, you know what I mean. So with Okada,
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I kind of see him. I want to say that he's going to
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be joining the Blackpool Combat Club, and the Blackpool Combat Club is going to
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kick Wheeler DA out of the out of the uh faction, and I think
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they want to get something in there. And I think you're gonna see Okada
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replace Wheeler Youda. I'm reaching here, mm hmm, you know, because
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I just don't know. I mean, so if they kick Wheeler DA out,
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what is Wheeler you to do after that? The same thing he's been
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doing for the last several weeks. Nothing, I mean, they if you're
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not going to use him, put somebody in the spot. That's my whole
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thought process behind it. If you're not going to use a wrestler to buy
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a black Bulkamma Club. Put somebody in the spot that you will use that
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should have hurt like that. I don't think so. I just think he
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has been around. Look, and I understand that Okata is not going to
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be like a full time wrestler. He is going to go back and forth
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to Japan, and that's, you know, something that's been widely speculated about.
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But even if he wrestles three weeks every two months, that's still more
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to Wheeler you just put in. Yeah, I don't know, So where
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are you thinking with Okada? Alex I I had something pretty similar but kind
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of the opposite in a way. I thought, you know, they're gonna
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bring him in and like you said, he's gonna be kind of the super
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babyface, which is interesting because like how well does he speak English and how
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well is he going to fit into an English speaking program? So that that's
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a big question mark because obviously he's like the biggest star in Japan coming here
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a big deal. He has the he has everything to be the possibly the
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biggest babyface in ae W, but can that translate to an English speaking audience?
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So yeah, that'll be interesting. But I think, yeah, I
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think he's gonna come in and actually feud with the Blackpool Combat Club and it
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kind of gives him And I'm kind of assuming that Wheeler you To kind of
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reappears from wherever he's been, who knows. And I've always been a Wheeler
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you To hater. I always felt like Daniel Garcia should have been in the
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black Pool Combat Club instead of him. Uh, but I kind of like
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Wheeler das as that just piece of crap, like cheating, and I feel
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like it suits him because he just kind of comes across like that to me.
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Yeah. Anyways, Yeah, Okata versus the Blackpool Combat Club and kind
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of working his way through them like he can. He can fight Wheeler Youda
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and beat him. He can fight Claudio beat him and then set up like
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a pay per view match against John Moxley where Okada can just beat John Moxley
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fair and square and just really like establish him right off the bat as a
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big deal because he beat all these high level guys in ae W. So
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that's kind of what I'm imagining would be a good start for him. But
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yeah, I don't I don't think having him go against Brian Danielson again would
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make sense because that's like the one match that we've already seen him have in
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w recently. So yeah, i'd like to see him them lead up to
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like a big match and Hangman Adam Page would be another guy that you'd want
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to see him fight and be clean to really establish himself. But he's already
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doing other things, so right, all that, I think I said this
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earlier, I don't think that I think is going to be the last two.
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Probably maybe at the end of March. Yeah, I just see him
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being a part of big business, like debuting I guess later in the night
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maybe or even like kind of as a surprise, because everyone is pretty sure
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Mercedes is showing up, but now they're adding Okada as well. Yeah.
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Fortunately Mercedes would come out like right at the end, right at the beginning
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of a show, and uh, and then if Akata came out later in
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the show, that would be something. Yeah, that's that would be my
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guess. But I guess we'll see there. They might be smarter for them
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to space things out a little bit. Yeah. So we talked a little
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bit about Okada and Monet and Ausprey, and here's the thing that all three
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of them have in common. Their last there's a couple of things they have
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in common. Their last promotion that they worked for was Overseas mm hm.
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And they were all in talks with WWE and signed with a W instead.
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So we had a lot of discussion about this on the AW fan hub community
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social networks, and a lot of people had different theories. Is when you
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look at it, AW is killed it in the free agency market and ww
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WE really has it other than well, I'll get into that. Well,
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see, they signed cm Punk, but AW fired Cmpunk. I don't think
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that was really a free agent thing that they got from AW. It was
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more of a free agent thing that AW just let them have. He's your
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problem now kind of thing. I don't want to talk about that too much.
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And Drade showed up there as well recently. That makes sense though,
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because Rodi's wife works there, you know. I mean, and I think
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Tony Kahan did make an exception for our Dottie because the ninety day do can
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not compete was obviously waived. M hm. You know. So, but
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what are you thinking? Do you have any theories as for maybe one or
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two reasons? Why do you think, Alex that AW is getting these big
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name free agents? Uh huh and not WWE. I think I think there's
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there's a different reason that I have for why they got Mercedes versus why they
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got Okata and Osprey. And for Ocata and Osprey, I think aw's close
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relationship with New Japan. I think Rocky Romero, who's been like the go
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between between AW and New Japan's like been signed officially to the AW office,
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right that was kind of just announced recently, So I think that relationship is
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a big part of it, and maybe specifically with Osprey, because they've already
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brought Osprey in, they gave him a big match it all in, They've
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given him big matches that forbidden door two years in a row, and they've
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treated him like he won. I think all his matches that he's had on
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those big shows, so like, Osprey's been treated well by them. He
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doesn't really have as much experience in the American wrestling scene, so maybe just
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that that level of comfort and the fact that the money is probably if not
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more in AW, it's probably at least the same as what WW he was
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offering. So maybe that comfort factors like a big part and probably similar for
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Okada and o'cada. Knew a lot of these guys, like he had a
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pretty good, strong relationship with the Young Bucks from their New Japan days,
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So I think that's probably a big part of it. But yeah, that's
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kind of what I think for the those guys specifically, all right, yeah,
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did you have any thoughts on them? Or do you want me to
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talk about what I think about Mercedes? Go ahead with Mercedes. I'm interested
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to hear what you have to say about Mercedes. So when Mercedes left WWE,
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it was not under good circumstances. I think he felt like they were
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disrespecting her, and then there was rumors about, you know, they went
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to speak to management and they disrespected them even more, and she left with
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like a bad taste in her mouth. And I don't and I think,
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you know, maybe Vince McMahon was part of that, and he's gone,
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but there's still a lot of people in the office that probably she didn't have
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great experiences with, and I think that that's a big part of why she
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didn't go back to WWE. And I think, yeah, they're probably willing,
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and Tony Kahn's willing to pay a lot of money, So I think
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money is a big thing. But I think for her there's also bad blood
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between her and WWE, right Yeah, so yeah, those are That's kind
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of how I feel like why these three people played out. And I kind
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of think it's like on a case by case basis, But aw, Tony
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Kahn's got deep pockets, so he's able to compete with WWE, and he's
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offering like he's he's still able to offer like national TV exposure and all the
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same things. And aw maybe it's not lighting the world on fire these days
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like it was two years ago, and WWE's pretty hot right now, but
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things change in the wrestling world. Like sure, I think bringing these guys
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in is going to just ring AW up a couple of notches, and like
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a year from now, two years from now, the whole disc course about
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wrestling can completely change. Yeah. I mean, had Auspury, he had
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Ouspury and Okata and Money gone to WWE instead, they would not have had
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as much of a profound effect on WWE as they would potentially have at AW.
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I have two things that I wanted to bring up. There's multitudes of
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things that reasons that they've signed, and I'm sure eventually those will come out,
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But in my opinion, there's two things that stand out, and this
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goes for all three of them. As I said earlier, they've all well.
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Osprey's from England, Okada is obviously from Japan. Money has stated emphatically
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that she wants to wrestle in Japan some more. They can do that.
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They could go home. Look at what they've done with Karoshida and Rijo especially.
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They can go home. They've let Ray, Phoenix and Penta go to
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Mexico. You know, they can go home. Yeah where when you're If
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they were WWE, they wouldn't be able to go home, and I think
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that has a profound effect on their decision. The other thing is, and
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this is something that neither of us is mentioned, had they went to work
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for WWE. And I may be off base here and correct me if I'm
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wrong, whether it's you or somebody in the community listening to this, but
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had they gone to wd WWE, technically they wouldn't be signed by WDWE.
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They'd be signed by Endeavor, And in my opinion, I don't think Endeavor
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wants to shell out the money. We'll look at it. Look at this,
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They've got the ratings, they're filling up the buildings. What are they
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say the game by adding more people to the roster. Look, they've got
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a pretty bloated roster too. Of course they've got an XT, but you're
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not going to put the likes of Ausprey, Mercedes Monett and Okata and NXD.
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So that means you add three, you've got to make space for them.
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AW also needs to make space for them. Just being honest with you
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here, Uh, they got to make space for these three. So either
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somebody is going to go, or somebody is going to get a lot less
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TV time and they're going to be on the indie circuits holding their craft a
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lot more. But that's my two things. I think that the opportunity to
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go home and do things, you know, with their family and not have
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to uproot their entire lives to wrestle for AW is one thing, especially for
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Okada and for Ausprey. And the other thing is is that I personally just
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don't think that Endeavor wanted to shell out the money. I think that they're
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content with what they've got right now, and they know that AW is,
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let's face it, they're pretty far behind as far as the ratings and the
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attendants and things like that goes. And if these three do what they can
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do. They're probably still not going to bring up the ratings and the attendance
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to the point of WWE just yet. You know, So aw's got a
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way to go. But the thing is it's couraging is that AW seems to
31:37
be moving in the correct direction where WWE, in my opinion, seems to
31:44
be flatlining a little bit. They're just that, I use the word,
31:48
they're content, and content is a good place to be, but it's not
31:52
great for business. Yeah, yeah, I wonder, like, because you
31:57
know, Okata and Osprey and Mercedes Monet, they're all coming in as like
32:04
three of the biggest names in AEW and yeah, you wonder if a year
32:09
or two years from now, we're going to look back and say, wow,
32:13
like WWE really dropped the ball not picking up at least one of these
32:17
people, because yeah, it's gonna be a big swing once these guys get
32:22
going in AEW it's gonna give them a lot of momentum in that case,
32:29
and the tides can change pretty quickly in the wrestling business. Like it seems
32:35
like e WWE's like solid and they're going into a hot WrestleMania, But yeah,
32:43
things change pretty quickly. Yeah, And speaking of changing very quickly,
32:50
I want to jump right into our Dynamite preview. I don't want to spend
32:52
a whole lot of time on Dynamite, but it is a fairly decent card,
32:57
especially since they just added a couple of new matches today. Alex and
33:04
you and I were talking before we started the show, and I had a
33:07
big problem with Collision this past week. Let's we'll just touch on Collision.
33:12
I'll say what at my piece, I'll get your your opinions on this Collisions
33:16
card. It was good wrestling, you know, there was some interesting things.
33:21
But here's the thing with Collision. You had five wrestlers on the show,
33:29
Shane Taylor, Bunominata, kiro Hogan, the Outrunners, and Top of
33:31
Heroes and combined, if you just look at the main shows Rampaged, Dynamite,
33:39
Collision and the pay per views combined, those five wrestlers have three wins
33:45
and forty one losses. That would have been fine for me if one or
33:51
two of these wrestlers had won their matches on Saturday night, but all five
33:57
of them lost, or well six of them if you count the Outrunners of
34:02
courses, two people instead of one, though they seem to apparently have the
34:07
same sharing the same brain, but that's their gimmick. But they're three and
34:12
forty one. And then the other thing that I did mention to you is
34:15
that we also had this really good promo from the bounty Hunter Brian Keith saying
34:17
that he was coming for everybody using those stayed statistics, Dynamite, Collision,
34:22
Rampage and pay per views. Brian Keith is eight and a w matches,
34:28
So so taking that at consideration the wrestlers, that's six people or seven if
34:37
you want to count seven with the outrunners that are combined three wins and forty
34:42
nine losses, and none of them won match on Saturday night, it just
34:46
seemed like, hey, let's pad the let's pad the rankings night, and
34:54
I just didn't enjoy it. Yeah, it is we because you think like,
35:00
if you're gonna have a low card and a mid card, you're gonna
35:05
have the lower card guys fight each other and the mid card guys fight each
35:09
other. But in aw, especially some nights like on Collision or a weaker
35:15
Dynamite, you'll just see just Adam Page versus Brian Keith, like matches that
35:22
you just know there's no chance in hell that the bigger guy, bigger name
35:29
guy is gonna lose, And they do that a lot, and it's uh,
35:34
yeah, it's questionable. It's not a good way to build those people
35:37
up. Like Shane Taylor, just put him in some matches with someone that
35:42
maybe he wins once in a while. Exactly. Well, I'll give you
35:46
another example. We had Tony Storm Pudachi fight. The match was against Quetomenada.
35:52
Yeah. Then you had Diana Parazzo gets Kira Hogan. Nobody's talking about
35:58
those matches. They were meaningless. They were good, there were there were
36:01
decent matches, but there was no meaning to them. However, if you
36:07
had Kira Hogan against in a match against Queen Amanada, we may be talking
36:15
about that. Yeah. Yeah, like people want to see Queen Amanata get
36:19
a win. You could have Tony Storm fight someone else, Yeah, and
36:23
that'd be way more interesting, Queen Emanata getting her first win. Yeah,
36:28
it's unfortunate. By the way, what I gave when I said that the
36:32
records win lost, records of the of the people that were in Collision were
36:37
three and forty one. One win was by Ische. He had a tag
36:42
team match that he won on one of the main shows, and two of
36:45
the wins were by Kira Hogan. So the outrunners, Shane Taylor and uh
36:52
who was the other one, Queen Amanada have never won a match an aw
36:55
on the on the main shows. They've done some of them done fairly well
37:01
at r OH, but I don't count that. So let's let's just jump
37:07
right into Dynamite. Then let's keep this a little bit short. Oh,
37:13
we got a really good card. Do you think it's a good card,
37:15
Alex, Like it's it's not as good as last week's because last week was
37:22
just amazing, But yeah, it's a good card, especially with the last
37:27
two editions, the Dax Horwood and John Moxley in Orange Cassidy and Matt Tavin
37:31
in a Texas Death Match for oh god, you know, let's talk about
37:38
that match. Go ahead, Yeah, what are your opinions about this match?
37:43
Because we're both kind of giggling at this. I guess the I guess
37:49
because it's in Texas, it's the Texas Death Match. It seems like the
37:53
craziest two people to put in a like Orange Cassidy death match. King and
37:59
Matt even who I don't think we've ever seen have a singles match on Dynamite
38:04
or Collision ever. Do you really think this is gonna be a singles match?
38:12
I guess not. This is gonna be bes Friends versus. Yeah.
38:17
I think you're gonna see you know what, here's this is what my pre
38:23
is, my spicy prediction. We're gonna see the return and the absolute mayhem
38:30
of Chucky Taylor. He's gonna come in and clean house and save Orange,
38:36
Cassidy and the best friends, and he's gonna walk out of that match tomorrow
38:40
night the hero. Nice. Yeah that will we get a Sue do sighting?
38:52
Maybe she is the one that drives him down the ramp and the the
38:53
white Uh what is it a van or is it an sup I think it's
38:59
an s van? Yeah yeah, so I mean, hey, you do
39:05
whatever you have to to get a good pop, you know. Yeah.
39:08
Yeah, this match could be a lot of fun. It could be really
39:12
good. I can see, I can I could see Sue driving the van
39:17
down the ramp, well not all the way down the ramp and everybody in
39:21
the crownthics it's Osprey and Chucky Taylor gets out boom. Uh. So I
39:28
think he just needs to walk out just you know, so that there's no
39:31
suspense and no chance for disappointment, you know. And then we got Dax
39:37
Hardwood against John Moxley. Where the hell did that come from? That makes
39:43
no sense. Well, ft randomly showed up to challenge John Moxley and Claudio
39:51
Castan only so maybe they're setting up something that's right. Yeah, maybe maybe,
39:57
but like I like it, but yeah, it is. It is
40:00
weird. I hope and I know there's no chance in hell, but I'd
40:06
love to see Dax Horowitz beat John Moxley. That would make my day.
40:12
But they were a chance, no chance, I mean, I mean,
40:20
I mean Moxley bled Moxley bleed the other night. It's like the all is
40:24
right with the world. Moxley was bleeding, not much, but he did
40:29
bleed. Uh huh, Yeah, I mean it was. It was a
40:31
pretty decent match with Esfingy and Starboy Junior's not like Claudill cas. You look
40:40
like you got to a fight with Wolverine. Yeah, yeah, it was.
40:45
Wonder if that's gonna leave a mark because then that you know what people
40:51
and you know, he'll be walking down the street, women will be fawning
40:53
over him. Because of the scar, because it's so sexy looking. You
40:57
know, if I had that scar to be like, look at that horrible
41:00
looking guy with that awfully, awfully ugly scar. I can't pull off the
41:04
scar like that caught. Yeah he can't. Yeah he looks good. Hopefully
41:09
it sticks around. I'm high up. But you know, back to the
41:14
match. I'm hoping Hartwood has a good match against Moxley, But yeah,
41:19
I don't know. I have a feeling that that's gonna be There's gonna be
41:21
more to the Texas Death Match that meets the eye. And I think there's
41:24
gonna be more to this than meets Who knows, Maybe Wheeler Yuda comes out
41:29
and Rex Cash Wheeler and uh and I. But I do have a theory
41:37
about this match is that they put this match into place just in case Cash
41:42
Wheeler can't make it to UH Revolution due to you know, strenious circumstances,
41:50
that they've got a match lined up. So yeah, moving on, Yeah,
41:57
yeah, it would be moving on to sky Blue versus Willow Nightingale another
42:06
match, and I think there's gonna be more to it that meets the eye.
42:08
Will Julia Heart come out with a railroad spike and drive it into Chris
42:15
Statlander or Willow Nightingale's head. I mean, look, we know you're gonna
42:21
have Stokely, you know you're going to have Julia. Something's got to happen.
42:25
This has got to be setting I think it's setting up a match.
42:30
This is going to be a match, setting up a match between Julia and
42:34
Sky versus Willow and Chris Statlander for revolution. I really do believe that.
42:42
Yeah. I think it's a cool match because they have a lot of history,
42:45
Willow Nightingale and Skyblue. They were kind of like the pair of women
42:51
that would lose all the matches to the outcasts for a few months, nons
42:54
in a row. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to this match because it's
43:01
one of the rare women's matches on like Dynamitic Collision where you don't know who's
43:06
gonna win, and that if I had to guess, I could see sky
43:09
Blue winning after some nefarious actions by Julia Hart. I honestly hope that this
43:19
is a clean win for either Sky or Willow. That's all I want.
43:23
Let it be a clean win and then have the you know, extracurricular activities
43:29
happen after the match to set up you know the major feud. Well,
43:34
let's have a Let's have a it's the only women's match on the card.
43:37
Let's have a clean match. I mean, there is another women's segment on
43:43
the card. It's something that I know that I mean you, you just
43:45
won't shut up about it, Alex. I mean the wedd Ink, the
43:50
new movie film film from Tony's Storm. But I'm saying, because you have
43:55
not mentioned a single thing about Tony Storm and wet wedding at all, do
44:00
you do you care about this? I mean, uh, I have to
44:06
say I have not enjoyed her movies too much. This movie, I'm curious,
44:15
just like, what does wedd inc mean to me? That's like contract
44:17
signing. I really like their promo where she's laying down in the middle of
44:23
the ring on collision. I'm a big Tony Storm fan, so I'm always
44:29
excited to see what she does. But yeah, I haven't really enjoyed her
44:32
movies so much. It's just like her like acting weird in our room by
44:39
herself. Well yeah, yeah yeah. And then we have the Young Bucks
44:49
versus Top Flight. Now, I am a huge top Flight fan. Do
44:52
I think Top Flight's gonna win this match, hell now. But I am
44:57
a huge top flight fan and what thing that I will say about. And
45:00
I don't know if you saw this, but on Rampage this past Friday,
45:09
Matthew and Nicholas Jackson or Philippe at Francois Jackson owned as I like to call
45:15
him, wrestled on the show. And Friday Night's Rampage got higher ratings than
45:24
Collision. Really high ratings go higher rate it's got. It's got higher ratings
45:35
than any Collision this year. Wo. So, So I don't know if
45:44
that was due to you know, matt Jackson and Nicholas Jackson being there,
45:52
or if it was something else but either them or it's mystico mystical h cmll
46:00
Mexican fans tuning in. But yeah, it could be them. I wouldn't
46:04
it would be as not being facetious. That very well could be. When
46:08
you got, you know, heroes of the Mexican community wrestling in a big
46:16
company, they're going to tune you know, totally makes sense that they would
46:21
tune in. Oh boy, yeah, So I mean I'm not looking much.
46:27
I'm looking at a good match here, but I think it's a foregone
46:30
conclusion that that the Chexions are going to win. Mm hmmm do you agree?
46:36
Do you agree with that? Alex? Yeah, I think they're gonna
46:38
They're going to brutally cheat and probably continue their like, uh horrible series of
46:46
actions that they're committing against the aw roster. I don't know if you watched
46:52
that match on Rampage, but Nicholas Jackson was very careful to not let his
46:58
hat fall off during the entire match. So I'm looking yeah, I'm looking
47:04
forward to seeing if he can keep the match on for keep the hat on
47:07
for the whole match. Well this is he should uh fight either Hangman,
47:14
Adam Page or Swear Strickland. They'll staple that sucker right on. It won't
47:16
fall off. Yeah, yeah, And I don't know if you saw it,
47:22
Brandon Cutler has been posting like tweets Oh god, yeah, hysterical.
47:29
So so Adam Copeland and Eddie Kingston head on Collision, Uh came out and
47:36
spoke about against the vile actions of the young Bucks and they and he posts
47:39
that there's rumors that like Adam Cokeland and Eddie Kingston is speaking out a turn
47:46
and rubbing the locker room the wrong way, and people on Reddit. People
47:52
were like, oh my god, I wonder who. I wonder who leaked
47:54
that to the posted by Brandon Cutler. It's just funny what I saw it.
48:02
I was like, Oh no, people are gonna think this is serious,
48:07
and I'm like, oh god, I thought I was like prepared for
48:09
the insanity to happen. Oh God, I'm just it's unbelievable. Speaking of
48:15
Adam Copeland, we are going to see Adam Copeland against Daniel Garcia, the
48:22
winner of whom will go after the TNT Championship owned by Christy Cage. Who
48:29
do you have in this match? What would you like to see happen in
48:32
this match? I love Daniel Garcia and I'd want to see him win any
48:40
match he's in for the most part, but it just makes more sense for
48:45
Adam Copeland to win, you know. Uh yeah, so I think Adam
48:52
Copeland's definitely gonna win here. Hopefully Daniel Garcia looks good, but yeah,
48:57
it's got to be Adam Copeland, right I You know, you think with
49:02
your head and you think with your heart. My head, says Adam Copla.
49:07
My heart wants Daniel Garcia. But even then, if Daniel Garcia wins,
49:12
I'd be a little bit heartbroken for Adam Copeland. And if Adam Copeland
49:15
wins, I'd be a little bit heartbroken for Daniel Garcia. This is a
49:19
tough one because you've got two guys that are popular with the crowds. I
49:27
wouldn't call them baby faces, especially Garcia. I wouldn't call them go so
49:31
far as I call them ultimate baby faces. But it's hard when you got
49:37
two guys that are like this. You know, look, Daniel Garcia significantly
49:43
younger than Adam Copeland and he's got a lot of years ahead of him.
49:46
Maybe it's not Daniel Garcia's time, but you know what, I believe Adam
49:51
Copeland will work his ass off to make Daniel Garcia look like a world beater
49:55
winner lose. Yeah, and that's what you look forward to. Mm hmm.
50:05
Yeah, it's going to be a fun match. It's going to be
50:09
a great match. And like Daniel Garcia, he's one of those guys that
50:13
I know we were talking about all the people doing jobs on collision and losing.
50:19
He's the guy that definitely started out that way and now we see where
50:23
that has gotten him. And and yeah, good for Daniel Garcia. I
50:29
love him the Yeah, well, I think I think we are going to
50:34
be seen exactly. I think we are going to be seeing in the coming
50:38
weeks, months, and years, uh, surging Daniel Garcia because he's he's
50:45
got he's just got it. You know, he's got the he's just got
50:50
it. And he has to do is give rid of that dance because that's
50:55
one day. But that's kind of what you know in a way, it's
51:00
it was how he found himself and and got over as like a baby face.
51:08
Yeah. Wow, most guys don't find themselves that way. I'll stop
51:16
right there because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say how most guys do find
51:21
themselves. Uh well, okay, but anyway, and of course, we
51:30
do have one other segment that's planned, and that's a we'll hear from segment
51:35
with Hangman, Adam Page, Samoa Joe and Swore strictlyt Do you expect anything
51:39
out of this other than them just staring at each other and being growling.
51:46
Uh yeah, Like I'm curious just to see where where each guy is coming
51:54
from. Like you know, we we know Hangman ad Him Page just hate
52:00
Swear Strickland swears Stricklands just wants the title, and Samoa Joe we need to
52:07
see how he kind of fits into all of this. Is hanging in at
52:12
him page like going to happened to, like a more evil version of himself,
52:21
the stop swerve of Strickland as best he can. Like, I think
52:24
there's some interesting things that could be going on here, but it might just
52:30
be the three of them coming out and talking and just filling up time.
52:37
You know, through all this, Samoa Joe has been kind of the forgotten
52:39
person. He's the world champion, he's been a freak on person. I
52:43
actually went on YouTube and I wanted to see if anybody was talking about Samoa
52:49
Joe, and somebody actually was, Well, they weren't talking about him.
52:53
They made a Samoa Joe Nope compilation dating back to Days and Ring of Honor.
53:00
It's it's absolutely hysterical. I mean, he's done the Nope to a
53:07
lot of the top wrestlers in both a w A and w w A and
53:13
New Japan. Uh It's it's absolutely hysterical. So if you are, if
53:17
you get a chance, anyone who's listening, go on YouTube just type in
53:22
search for Smojoe. Nope, compilation. You won't be disappointed because it's several
53:29
minutes of just hysterical stuff and and he and it's not evolved very much.
53:37
It's but basically it's but basically the same move throughout the years. So anyway,
53:45
but yeah, I think do you think Samoa Joe will still be the
53:52
champion after Revolution? Do you think title? N you do? Okay,
53:58
I do believe Smojo will retain in the championship. I do believe that that,
54:06
uh Samoa Joe will lose the championship to swear Strickland in a couple of
54:10
months. Mm hmm. Yeah, I don't think I do. It's like
54:21
I did. Do you do you have any kind of scenario where you think
54:24
that hangman Adam Paige wins the championship anytime soon? No? No, I
54:31
think that really no one wants to see that. I don't think I wouldn't
54:37
mind seeing it. I mean, he was a good champion, and I
54:40
like Adam Page. You know, I think it's great that he can wrestle
54:44
a debriated you know, but uh, because I certainly couldn't. You know,
54:50
it's kind of like his energy juice. But uh, if they make
54:54
him more evil and like kind of make him the bad guy in all of
55:01
this, and then they put the title on him and then Swerve Strickland goes
55:07
to feud with him and that's who he beats. I can see that making
55:10
sense. But yeah, you know that's that's the weird thing about this whole
55:16
situation is that square Strickland is. It's he's got so much support and he's
55:24
been he's like, he's like MJF. Honestly, he could be the biggest
55:30
scumbag in the world of people will still love him and that is a talent
55:35
man. Yeah, and it's even weirder because NJF was always funny, even
55:42
when he was being horrible to people. He he was always kind of funny.
55:46
We're Strickland just broke into Adam Page's house and threatened baby and it wasn't
55:53
in a funny way. No one was laughing. So yeah, yeah,
56:00
it is kind of strange that he has all the fans support in the world,
56:04
and it makes complete sense that hang me in Adam Page is as angry
56:08
about it as he is. Yeah. I just want to see Adam Page
56:13
get on the mic and as people are cheering for swear like, what is
56:16
rob with you people to kind of do one of those speeches like he broke
56:22
into my house and he threatened my baby, you know, and you're cheering
56:25
for him. How would you feel if you did it to you? God?
56:30
Or how would you feel if I did it to you that that aw
56:34
security comes out and arrest him. But anyway, I like it. It
56:42
could be an interesting show tomorrow night. Pell You know, Alex, it's
56:45
these kind of shows sneak up on you. I think this is a really
56:50
good, interesting card. There's nothing on it that I'm like, Oh,
56:53
that's a bathroom break, There's I mean, there's some interesting stuff going on
56:59
tomorrow. I'm interested to see what happens. You know. I think that
57:06
I don't know, Alex, I don't know about you, but I kind
57:07
of think do you think that the anticipation of Mercedes Monett showing up and Will
57:15
Osprey showing up is putting a little bit of a damper on the shows?
57:23
The people that don't know maybe expecting Mercedes to show up and Asprey to show
57:30
up on Collision this past week and on Dynamite this week. You know,
57:35
they're definitely not It's something else man, I think the anticipation is going to
57:40
be kind of rough until March thirteenth, because I think Ausprey is going to
57:45
be there next week, and that's going to put a lot. He's going
57:50
to have a lot on his shoulders to pacify people until Mercedes gets here,
57:54
and then Mercedes may have some pacification to herself until Okata gets here. It's
58:02
gonna be a really interesting next several weeks in a I'm interested to see if
58:15
AW fans get anticipation burnout or not. Yeah. Yeah, let's pate that
58:21
up. That's not a clinical term. Yeah, Unfortunately. You know,
58:24
sometimes I wonder when when they have these leaks, like Okada being leaked is
58:30
coming to AW, you kind of wonder if that's like WWE people were somehow
58:37
involved in getting that information out there, because you know, if you're AW,
58:40
you want that to be a surprise. You don't want people expecting it.
58:46
I mean, obviously, them announcing big business happening six weeks from now
58:52
with boss signs like that was their own doing. I don't know if you
58:57
have you been watching have you seen any of the interviews that Tony Kinda did
59:00
in Las Vegas on during Super Bowl week I saw I saw one of them.
59:05
I heard him definitely say boss Din. Yeah, he said Boston,
59:09
and people have been asking specific things and he did. Somebody was somebody was
59:15
talking about that. This was like earlier in the week, somebody was talking
59:17
about Osprey and mormonet and he was just kind of nodding, yeah, yeah,
59:22
yeah, And then they mentioned o'cada. He raised his eyebrows like something's
59:28
up there. But this was like like the day before the news broke that
59:34
Ocada was signing with AW. So oh my god. Wow. You wonder
59:38
when he knew about it, because he did post his like twenty twenty four
59:45
is going to be a good year, and he had him like smiling or
59:47
something. So yeah, I wonder when he knew all these Mercedes and Ocado
59:52
were coming. Was a few weeks ago or recently, you know, before
59:59
he sign off. If I wanted to make a point going back to our
1:00:02
original discussion that we had one of our original discussions, you know, talking
1:00:07
about how AW is getting these free agents and wwe isn't. It just blows
1:00:15
my mind that things just are falling in weird directions. So it was reported
1:00:25
that Camille was going to go to WWE, and then last week, then
1:00:30
like a couple of weeks ago, she was backstage at at AW show,
1:00:34
and last week, late last week it was reported that she's no longer going
1:00:37
to WWE's and she's in deep discussions with AW. Now, then you look
1:00:43
at Julia, people had her going to WWE. Now with Ogawa Rossi being
1:00:50
fired from stardom and supposedly starting his new promotion, Julia is more than likely
1:00:57
you to go to that promotion and she's gonna lead WW hanging there too.
1:01:02
It's amazing. It's you know, WW can't catch a break. Yeah,
1:01:14
Like, yeah, it is really weird because these people, like like if
1:01:20
Ospray or Ocatta, if they went to WWE, I know, people say
1:01:22
they'd get lost in the shuffle, but I don't think WWE's men's roster is
1:01:29
really that exciting. And I would say aw's men's roster is better than WWE's
1:01:37
from top to bottom. And and I think, you know, if they
1:01:40
did pick up a guy like Ospray or Okata, they would slot right in
1:01:45
there. It's like one of the biggest names in WWE, just like AJ
1:01:50
Styles did like years ago. So yeah, that's really really interesting. How
1:01:57
things have gone and things are tumultuous over them there for sure, with you
1:02:00
know, the Vince McMahon stuff, and he knows it'll be interesting. It'll
1:02:07
be interesting about I would say six months from now to reassess how these three
1:02:12
free agents have affected aw you know, I would say six seven months,
1:02:19
right around the time of all in. Yeah, how is this going to
1:02:22
affect with effect A and one thing like thinking about that. You know,
1:02:29
we had Jay White who was kind of in a similar spot. He was
1:02:32
rumored to be going to WWE and ended up in a w and I would
1:02:37
say, arguably he hasn't made as big of an impact as people probably thought,
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so some of these guys could go that way. But I kind of
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predict that Okata and will Ospringer bigger names and it'll make a bigger impact than
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Jay White did. You're probably right. You're probably right. Well, we
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will see for sure in the next several weeks just how this begins to play
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out, because it really is a beginning. It's going to take a while
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to see the effects of it. I think long long term effects. So
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it's gonna be interesting and I think what that will end the show? What
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do you think Alex. Yeah, sounds good, Kelson, let's end it
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all right, all right, buddy, Well, we'll see you tomorrow night.
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For all lead Talk, This is Kelson and this is Alex. Good
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night, everybody. Good nay.