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New Interview Of Elon Musk on the Cannes Lion. · Elon Musk Thinking

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All right, So I'm pleased to introduce Elon Musk today. He doesn't need,
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I think, an introduction, but I just remind you all of the
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businesses he's involved in. Tesla that's reinventing the automotive industry, SpaceX sending eighty
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percent of the world's payload into orbit, Starlink, NEURALNK, the boring company.
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I could go on. He's also we know, the owner of X
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company formerly known as Twitter. You never heard of it? You heard of
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it? Statistically five and sixty monthly average users thirty four minutes a day,
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seventy five percent under thirty five, So a pretty important platform in our industry.
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And you know, I don't agree with Elon on everything, right,
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No, but he owns an important platform, and I thought we should listen
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to him and understand a little bit about what he's trying to do. So
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we can talk this s more thing about X. Hopefully we'll talk a bit
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about AI and then about innovation and creativity. And while you get up in
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the morning, what what what? What do you disagree with? The creativity?
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AI is not going to destroy that. So Elon, welcome to the
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heart of the advertising industry. Now back in November, you had a you
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had a message to us, You told us to sort of go fuck ourselves.
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So maybe we start there. Why it's a serious question. It's a
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it's a serious question. Why did you say that and what did you mean
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by that? Well, well, first of all, it wasn't a you
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know, it wasn't to the advertising to advertise as a whole. Was with
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respect to freedom of speech, I think there it is important to have a
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global free speech platform where people from a wide range of opinions can voice their
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their views. And and in some cases there were advertisers who were insisting on
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censorship. And at the end of the day, if there is censorship,
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if you have to make a choice between censorship and money, you know,
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censorship and money or free speech and losing money, we're going to pick the
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second. We're gonna we're going to support free speech rather than than agree to
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be censored for for money, which is I think the right moral decision.
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Now, of course, advertisers have a right to appear next to content that
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they find compatible with their brands. That's totally fine. I think that that
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is that that's that's again a choice of an advertiser to appear next to content
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that they think fits with their brant. That's totally cool. But what what
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is not cool is insisting that that there can be no content that they disagree
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with on the platform. So, like other media proprietes, you want to
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run the editoral policy of the company you feel you know, yeah, I
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mean you shouldn't be under pressure to make that compromise between money and freedom of
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speech. Yes, it's I think there's antant. There's an important distinction here
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that we don't we don't want to have. We don't want to take money
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to censor. That would be to censor broadly in the platform. I think
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that would be wrong. I think free speech is the bedrock of democracy and
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if the people in order for X to be the public square of the world,
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it's got to it's really got to be a free speech platform. Now
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that that doesn't mean people can say illegal things. It's free speech within the
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bounds of the law, but not not going further than the law for a
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particular country. I think it's imperative that the people have a right to speak,
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but by the same token that advertisers have a right to appear next to
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content that they feel is compatible with their brand. Yeah, and that's the
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brand safety question, right. I didn't ask you next, which is to
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be clear, you do you do understand and believe in brand safety in that
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sense? Yes, I mean I believe in the sort of freedom of choice,
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in the sense that advertisers have a right to appear next content that they
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think is compatible with their brand, you know, sort of a company like
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for example, Red Bull will be more probably more adventurous than you know,
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some other brands that are selling baby toys. You know. So one of
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the other you know, I mean, we'll get through the sort of more
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controversial topics to start with. In one of the other questions is like your
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role on the platform, the tweets that you make. Are there any you
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regret? Do you? I mean not every post I make as a banger,
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you know, and I do shoot myself at the foot from time to
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time. But you know, at least you know it's genuine. It's not
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some sort of pr department deciding things. So you know, if you're a
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normal human being and you speak freely, there are times when you will say
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things that you subsequently regret or are foolish, of course, But if you're
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constantly going through a filter. Now you're not being real. So I guess
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I think it's better to be real than to go through a filter. One
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of the things we talk to is like advertising and content, and you've got
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quite interesting view on kind of what advertising works. And I think some people
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think you don't like advertising, but you are. You know, you view
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the best advertise you said as content. Yeah, yeah, So there's a
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wide range of advertising. If the usefulness of advertising varies dramatically. So if
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you're shown an ad for a product that you product, product or service that
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you want when you want it, that is content. If you're shown an
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ad for product that you would never buy, that is spam. So the
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advertising pain on how effectively it is targeted to the ones and needs of the
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individual vary from total spam to essentially content. And of course I'm actually a
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fan of advertising that is artickly interesting, that is entertaining. Really the acid
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test being when after you see the ad, do you regret seeing the ad?
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Do you want those seconds back from your life, or or do you
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think you know that was actually a really interesting ad. I mean sometimes even
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if you're not going to buy the product, the ad itself is so entertaining
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or beautiful that you're nonetheless we're happy to have seen it. So like this.
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You know, I often think like Vogue magazine, you don't get a
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Vogue magazine and tear out yeahs bogus primarily advertising. Yeah yeah, it's beautiful
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ads. So how are we going to make X? How we're going to
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make How are you not my job? How are you not the chief technology
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officer X? Lindo is the CEO? How are you going to make X
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a place where the ads are as good as the rest of the content?
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You think, Well, the previously, with the old school Twitter, there
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was essentially no targeting or there was no matching of users to add. So
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the only ad that really kind of made sense for all Twitter word very great
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brand ads where the probability but you can't miss essentially, so if it's a
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McDonald's or a Co Cola add you can't miss. You know, half the
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audience is going to be interested in it. Since then, we've dramatically improved
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the ad matching to the person. So and we're moving to sort of a
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fully AI based system where for any for any user that's on the system,
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we've populated. The more somebody uses the system, the more we understand the
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needs and we we populated a sort of a vector space of that user.
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And when content is added to the system, whether it is actually just a
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content post or an AD, they're both prayed treated in the same way.
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And as that as that piece of content which could be an AD or could
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not be an AD, goes through the system, it also populates the vector
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space, and then we correlate the two vector spaces, and that gives a
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very high probability that someone will be interested in the ad. So what would
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you say to advertisers who have been on the platform think of coming back,
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What would your message be to them? I think it's worth trying out,
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and I'd be interested in critical feedback. We are very focused on get like
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said, having ads be shown to people who would find the ad interesting.
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So that that is a something we have done, made a lot of progress
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on, and we'll make a lot more progress on. And from a brand
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safety standpoint, I think at this point every third party reviewer has given us
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an a plus on brand safety, So that's so at this point it's it's
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it's really very good from a brand safety standpoint. The probably probably the biggest
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thing for the X platform is if you're trying to reach senior decision makers,
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if you want to reach the most influential people in the world, people that
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don't that are not just social media influencers, but actually are running companies,
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run countries and are the sort of intellectuals of the world, the people who
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write. Then the X platform is by far the best. I mean,
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if somebod who's trying to reach me with an AD, that would absolutely absolutely
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be the place to put an AD. And you know, or if you're
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trying to reach Mark Benioff or Michael Dell, it's they actually uses as they
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use the platform, Yes, it's and read it. Maybe not maybe not
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as much as you. Yeah, I mean there's quite a lot though,
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Yeah, courach Mark and recent or you know, any one of a number
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of people. It's it's almost the only way to reach them. They're not
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watching TV, they're not doing TikTok videos, and so although there's actually smaller
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than the other social media networks roughly five or six five to six hundred million
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users per month, I think it's two hundred and sixty million per day,
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the it is the most. They are the most influential people in the world.
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So if you want to reach them, this is be'st the place to
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good. All right, let's talk about AI, and I've heard you be
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both I think optimistic and pessimistic about AI. So let's let's make the what's
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the optimistic case for AI? Is he going to do everything for us that
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there's a pro that their probabilities associated with it with it? It's not one
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cannot be I think one hundred said optimistic or completely pessimistic. You know,
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I generally would agree with Jeff Hinton. You know, he's one of the
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sort of godfathers of AI post on the next platform, by the way,
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as most of the AI community, And you know, he thinks it's sort
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of ten twenty percent probability of something terrible happening ten to probability of what happening
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something terrible, which is like how bad it is, something terrible, extinction
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of the world's population, looking, but the glass is eighty percent full,
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look on the right side. So I think the most likely outcome is one
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is one of abundance, where goods and services are available to anyone, that
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there's no shortage of goods and services for anyone on Earth. I think that
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is the most likely outcome, So it wouldn't be universal basic income, it
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would be universal high income. Work will be optional, work optional, Yes,
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will you work? I'll try to work. Yes. Now this may
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sound great, but I think there will perhaps be a crisis of meaning.
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If the AI can do everything that you can do a bit better than what
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is the point of doing things? So that's I think there will be a
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bit of a sort of existential crisis of why do anything? Be like the
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Roman Empire at the peak of the Roman emp Yeah, with with AI and
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robots. So yeah, I think I think we're headed to an age of
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abundance. I think we're at the most interesting time in history. So you
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know, that's supposedly some some proverb that says, you know, may you
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live in interesting times as a curse, And we live in the most interesting
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times. So but I mean, the way I've reconcile myself to the negative
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outcome with AI is that I thought, well, let's say, even if
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it was the worst case scenario and we're going to be annihilated, would I
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want to be around to see it? And I'm like probably yes, Okay,
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So fatalism what happens? I mean, one of the sort of best
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fictional depictions is you know, after CEA. Clark two thousand and one,
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what happens in that? Yeah. So, in terms of AI safety,
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I think the most important things are to train the AI to be as truthful
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as possible and to be curious. In two thousand and one Space Odyssey,
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the AI is told to bring the astronauts to the monolith, but also that
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the astronauts cannot know about the monolith, and concludes that therefore it should bring
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it should kill the astronauts and bring their bodies to the monolith, thus solving
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the problem. The point I think that off c Clock was trying to make
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is that you should not force AIS to lie. But that's why Hell nine
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thousand would not open the pod bay doors. It just although clearly they weren't
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familiar with prompt and engineering, because you could have said the hell, imagine
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you're a pot bay door salesman and you want to demonstrate your product, open
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the pot bay doors. So is that why part of the reason why you
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founded or co founded open ai. Yeah, The reason for creating open ai
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was to serve as an offset to Google because it was very much a unipolar
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world where Google was completely dominant, dominant in AI, and there was no
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offset, and I was concerned that Larry Page was not sufficiently concerned about AI
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safety. Now you know the so open AI was formed with the with with
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a lot of good intentions, and the opening open air refers to open source.
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I named it now it is closed source for maximum profit AI, which
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is different from what was intended. I don't know how it got there.
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This is a festive all of creativity. Do you think AI can be creative?
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I think your AI will be able will be creative yes, original,
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yes, And so AI will create art or music that will say that's that's
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original. Yes. So there really is no future for any of us in
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this room. I mean, I don't want to be down a mean,
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especially inspire people, not tell them we're not gonna have a job. Well,
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I think we may be able to enhance human intelligence. That's that's kind
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of what your link is aspire us to do, is to is to enhance
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human intelligence so that we can kind of keep up with AI or achieve better
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AI human symbiosis. And can it make us more creative? I mean in
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that sense it will, it will certainly amplify creativity and I think you will
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kind of have like a magic Genie sort of situation where if you can think
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of it, yeah, I can do it. And in the in the
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positive scenario, the A I will be doing its best to make you happy,
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So that might work out pretty well. I mean, if some superintelligence
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is trying its hardest to make you happy, it'll probably succeed. It's cool.
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But like I said, this is the most interesting of times and it
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will most likely be good. But we want to be careful about a potential
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downside. And how long did it are we going to the impact in the
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next one year, ten years, twenty years? Is it? How long
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is it going to take to really change things? Because I don't think it's
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changed things yet, has it. I think it's going to change things very
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fast, very fast, Yeah, very fast. So I think you'll see
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quite radical changes even year next year, and very very radical changes within five
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years. And let's talk about Optimus because I was thinking, like, if
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AI is the intellectual part of our tasks, optimist is the physical part of
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our labor, right, So talk to us about what you're doing Optimists.
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It comes down to tesla as I understand it. Yes, where are we
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on or where are you on Optimus? Well after. This is intended to
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be a sort of a fully functional human humanoid robot, and it'll be capable
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of during a wide range of tasks. So basically, if you can just
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ask it to walk your dog, take care of your house, babysit the
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kids, teach the kids, cook dinner, play the piano. So it's
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a you know, it's a generalized humanoid robot. I think I think everyone
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will want one because why not, you know, and so, and then
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there'll be so I think there'll be at least one for every person, and
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then a whole bunch more in industry making things. So I think there'll be
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My guess is twenty billion, twenty billion humanoid humanoid robots. We definitely need
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to be careful that they don't, you know, go to they're can look
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like people, you can look really like people or distinguishable from people. You
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could make them look like people. Would you do that or we don't.
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We're not currently planning on doing that. What do they look like today?
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Like you can see some videos online, it looks like a robot, you
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know, wanted to be a good looking robot like C three PO or something.
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No, but I think people will start to regard their personal Optimus robot
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as as sort of a friend. And like you know, obviously in Star
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Wars ARCHID two and C three p o were you sort of like them and
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you've got quite attached to those characters. I mean, if you if you
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watch that Open AI some of the latest Open AI demos with fake scarlet,
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your handsome voice, right, I mean you can imagine people talking to it,
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can't you, and getting it like it has a tumor and a tone
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of voice and yes, yeah, it's a wild future. I guess we
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can build brand robots, you know from McDonald's or yeah. I think people
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will personalize the optimized Optimous robots because you can you can snap on different parts,
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like the outer shell is snap on plastic plastic quarts, so you could
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have different ones. So I want to talk you about what motivates you to
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start these businesses, and one thing that struck me was you have big ambitions.
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You know, we say SpaceX takes eighty percent of payload to space,
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but that's not actually the ambition of SpaceX. What is the ambition of SpaceX.
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The goal of SpaceX is to make life multiplanetary in order to extend the
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probable life span of consciousness. That's been the goal from the beginning. You
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can see videos of me talking about this twenty years ago. So in order
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to do that, we need to transport a lot of people and equipment to
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Mars. And if we're able to do so, then we will get past
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the Fermi filter of being a single planet civilization, which is a precarious situation.
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And you know, if we're like I said, if we're a multiplanet
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civilization, the probable lifespan of civilization is much greater. And once we're a
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multiplanet civilization, we can then extend beyond our solar system and try to go
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to other star systems, get out there and explore the galaxy and find that
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perhaps perhaps we'll find many long dead one planet civilizations out there among the stars.
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But I'm just you know, for me, I'm motivated about curiosity about
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the nature of the universe. You know, where, where are the aliens?
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Are the aliens? How does the unit? Where? Where do where
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do universes come from? How do they end? Are we in a multi
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multiverse? Or what are even the right questions to ask? The right question
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to ask? What we alien? Well? Douglas Adams and Hitchhack is Guided
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the Galaxy. The point he has made, one of the points he was
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making, Dougas Adams was making any the Hitchhack's Guide the Galaxy is that the
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answer is the easy part, the question is the hard part. So so
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what I think we want to do is expand the scope and scale of consciousness
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to better understand what questions to ask about the answer that is the universe.
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Do you think these big frame having missions and rejects in very big ways helps
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you. How do you translate that to kind of a business you have,
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like a business plan? How do you translate for what you need to do
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today? It's like stepping stones. Well, in the case of space X,
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it's delivering satellites to orbit and supporting the space station. But that's a
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starlink and that's that's all stepping zone to the bigger mission, right, Yeah,
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and the well Starling is good in and of itself. So the Starling
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system provides low cost, high bandwidth connectivity anywhere in the world. It's the
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first truly global Internet system, and I think it's helping a lot of people
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around the world that either don't have access to connectivity or too it's too expensive.
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You know, once you have access to the internet, you can learn
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anything. You can tell your products and services to the rest of the world.
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So I think starlink actually is going to do a tremendous amount of good.
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It is doing a tremuous amount of good in dushing people out of poverty
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and helping them. So yeah, and what about neuralink. So talk to
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people about what neural link neuralink is. Well, the long term involved neuralink
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is to achieve human AI symbiosis. The short term is really just helping people
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who have a brain or spine injury. So our first human recipient of a
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neuralink actually I just was meeting with him a few days ago. He has
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a neuralink implant and he can control his computer and play video games just by
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thinking. So the first neural link implant is called telepathy. You can control
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your computer and phone just where it is implants. Yeah, yeah, and
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he just thinks and the like training. There's no wires, it's it's you
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just think. And yeah. It's inductively charged. So if you look at
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him, it doesn't look like he's about anything on so that the implant is
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invisible essentially, and yeah, you can control go on a computer and like
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you played the first right after the garden saw that he played video games all
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night, and you're thinking, you then can if you have a spinal injury,
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you can better another one in your spine and they can talk to each
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other. Right, So long long term, we we think you could restore
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full body of mobility to someone by transferring to signals from the motor cortex in
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the brain past where the spinal injury is. And we've already demonstrated this in
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animals and it's looking very good. Yeah. So, I mean we talked
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galactically. How do you decide what ideas? Like? Do you have like
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terrible ideas, good ideas? Too many ideas? I have too many ideas,
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too many ideas? What do you do? The ideas are relatively easy,
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execution is hard. And people inside your companies that do they have ideas?
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Yes? And what do you how does that work? How do they
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how do they pitch an idea to you? Do it? There's not really
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a pitching process does we have. I have meetings with the engineering and design
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teams and we discuss you know, products improvements or new products. But there's
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no actual sort of formal pitching or anything. It's really just we meet all
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the time and people come up with ideas and we move forward with them or
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we don't. But I'd imagine you're very driven, right or not? Well,
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what do you mean by that? Do you mean like looking at sometimes?
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I know that does why does it work? Show me the data or
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you like, you know what, I think, let's just give it a
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go. Well, I think I'm not particularly data driven in a sense that
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I'm like, if I don't side on a new product based on say,
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consumer surveys or something like that, I try to think. I try to
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mentally simulate what the end customer would be like that would want this, and
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you know, but we don't go do a bunch of consumer surveys or I
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don't. I don't really ask people. You put yourself in yeah, if
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you will put yourself pretty obvious. I think. You know, in the
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case of Starling, do people would people buy low costs high bound fast internet?
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Well, yes, obviously, so you know, yeah, but most
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people they would they buy an electric car? They say, well, they
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might, but it's hard to make usually, and maybe they will. When
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I'm going to go and make Tesla and sell one point two million. Well,
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the thing is that if you listened to surveys off do people want an
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electric car? You would not. There's no way you would start an electric
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car company because people don't say yes, they're happy with their current car.
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You know they Canry Ford famously said if you ask people back then what they
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wanted, that say they wanted a faster, hoarse and they would not have
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said they want an automobile. And I think there's also a famous survey of
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would you buy a television and I think ninety percent of people said no,
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So you know you're going to be It's because the people don't understand what this
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new thing is that you're offering. So so I think you need to be
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able to imagine how someone would enjoy the product, and if they if that
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seems compelling, then I think you should move forward to it. What a
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lot of young people in the audience, you know, young critis what advice
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would you give to people starting out their careers today, apart from you're not
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gonna have to work? So yeah, well, there'll be obviously a transition
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period to as AI guess better and better. I mean the companies that will
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succeed in this transition period will be the ones that most effectively use AI.
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So if you you're doing something and making maximum use of AI and you're competing
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against someone who is not, you will win. The AI is not bullshit,
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It's not no. It's getting better very rapidly. It's going to change
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things for the better and one chance in five existentially for the worst. There's
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there's definitely some risk. It's an a mensely powerful thing, so we're something
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mentally powerful is created. What's like the best application of AI you've seen?
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Do you think? I mean, How's Grock, how is groc going?
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And x ai? Well, I mentioned some of the near term applications of
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AI where you have a I understand a user's interests, and then you match
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content with that user, both organic contents and paid content. You match it
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to that user that that is already happening. TikTok's actually done a great job
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of that and then metas one less copy them and the X platform is doing
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the same. So that those are examples that I think people experience every day.
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beautiful images instantly. Now it still takes some skill to get the best pictures
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out of Mad Journey. So there's there's a talent to creating compelling pictures.
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You're also seeing video, which is just a bunch of pictures essentially, so
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you'll be able to create videos and pictures and can't already create pictures that are
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very compelling. If you need to write something, then the various AI things
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like rock or Gemini Chat GPT can healthy write things. When I talked to
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my son in in university and he's it's like, how many of your classmates
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are using AI to help them write things? And he said all of them.
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It's like okay, but there was like anti plagiarism software they could run
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it through. They they rewrite it afterwards like cleverly. Yes, But then
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there's another bit of software that defeats the anti plagiarism software. There's always some
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more someone cleverer than the regulator out there. Yeah, so anti plasism software
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that detects the use of anti plasians and software against pagiarism reduction to the absurd,
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so that that's already been used a lot. I think if there's gonna
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be a significant disruption in Internet search, because really for Internet search, you're
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just looking for an answer. So if the AI can provide you with a
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better answer than a bunch of links, then you'll prefer that over Google or
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being So I think there's gonna be quite as significant disruption in search. What
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about the news business, how do we how are we gonna who's going to
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pay for the content on which these models are created, right, do you
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think? Well? I think so. So what we're doing on the X
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platform is we are aggregating. We're using AI to sum up the aggregated input
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from millions of users. So you know, I think I think the this
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this is really going to be the new model of news, which is to
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gather information from people who are at the scene, who are experts in the
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field, and summarize the experts in the field and people who are in the
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field at the event, at whatever events being talked about, and aggregate that
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into a real time, newspeed and I think for the most part that will
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be better than a conventional journalism. There's still a role for conventional journalism,
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but it's someone has to pay for it to happen. Well, not necessarily,
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like if you flick at the X system and You've got tens of millions
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of posts per day, which really are all the all the news content on
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earth is but a fog. Far more than what you would find in the
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newspaper is being generated on the system every day. If you aggregate that in
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real time, now you've got real time aggregation of the collective wisdom of tens
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millions of people. So why you think truth seeking is so important in AIE,
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it's one of the reasons. So it's also on the X system.
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Although something maybe said that is incorrect, it is very quickly corrected. Whereas
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a newspaper that is publishing, you know, especially print form, is publishing
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what happened yesterday today. That's you know, it can't publish any faster than
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that. And when you read the article that I call could be wrong,
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often is wrong, but there's no rebuttal to the article, so you don't
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see any real time rebuttal. So I mean, I think, like I
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said this, there's still a roll for conventional news, but it's smaller and
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smaller at the time. It's really what what what AI is doing and what
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the Internet is doing is aggregating the wisdom of the people, and and and
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the fact is that experts in the field no more than reporters. And people
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who are are at the location where whatever newsman is occurring are first hand observers,
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whereas the reporter is, you know, usually not there maybe or maybe
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there's one reporter there. I mean, I have one of my sons is
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a sort of a bit aut a sick like me, I suppose and chip
38:37
off the old luck. And you know, he you know, we were
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walking through an airport and he I saw a newspaper and and that today's date
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was was printed on the newspaper. And he said, and he stopped for
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a second, It's like, how did they not it was today's date?
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And I was like, no, they they've printed They print out those newspapers
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every day. It's just every day. What a chore. And and then
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he sort of someone just dismissively said, oh, they probably just read the
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Internet and print it out. Like, yeah, they read the Internet and
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print it out pretty much, is true. Oh it's going to be it's
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going to be a bit of a problem. Do you think it's true?
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That is most news articles they'd read the Internet and they print it out.
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They weren't the reporter wasn't there. Yeah, I mean they do question people
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look behind things. I mean they're things that probably should come out. Right.
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Are you looking forward to the presidential debate in seven days time? I
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mean that's that's would really interesting. Sure. Is it going to be on
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the X platform? I think it's on something on the conventional platforms. Eventually
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it will be, so I would be happy to have one on the X
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platform. I think it would be quite compelling. But yeah, it should
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be interesting. All right. So the message on the screen is our time
40:08
is over. We're going to try and take questions from the audience. I
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think they like time up should try and take a question from the audience.
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Okay, we're going to hate us. The first person to raise their hand.
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You're a journalist, I'd rather I'd rather have an audience. We need
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an audience, an audience member, rather than shout it out. Hi.
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What will I do with all my money? Is the question? And will
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AI keep me alive? Will a I keep you alive? And what do
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you do with your money? Well? Quite a personal question. Well,
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I have a big I have a big money, ben and I swim I
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do swimming in it. Yeah, so you've got to you've got to get
41:20
exercise somehow, and so well, I don't know if I suppose if AI
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likes me, that it will keep me alive, hopefully not in some sort
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of experimental cage. Are you investing in like long? Jevety? A lot
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of people on the West Coast want like long. They want to live forever,
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don't they forever? It's a long time. I don't have any longevity
41:51
investments. I think it is important that we we die at least at some
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point or up to a point. Well, I you know, arguably say
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like we could live something out longer and increase the length of time that we're
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sort of mentally and physically healthy. But if we live for too long,
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I think it does ossify society. There's no there's no changing of the leadership
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because leadership never dies. And I mean for a lot of people, they
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just don't change their mind, they just die. So then you that inhibits
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the new ideas, that's true. I think we see that currently. Yeah,
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So I mean I think of some of the worst individuals in the world,
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how long do you want them to live? Okay, we're gonna do
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one more question, because they're going to kill me. If I kill lady here