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Jeffrey Epstein: What you do not know · The Infographics Show Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Beyond Infographics. It is uh Friday, February sixth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and I have to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: Preparing for today's discussion, it felt less like you know,
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  Speaker 1: reading files and more like just staring into an abyss.
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  Speaker 2: It is heavy. There is There's really no other way
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  Speaker 2: to put it. The sheer weight of it all.
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  Speaker 1: We're sitting here exactly one week after the Department of
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  Speaker 1: Justice dropped what they were calling the final release of
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  Speaker 1: the Epstein files, and the scale of this is just
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to wrap your head around it really is.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about over three million pages, three million release
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  Speaker 1: between late twenty twenty five and what January thirtieth of
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  Speaker 1: this year, and my initial reaction when the service finally
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  Speaker 1: went live was just noise. It felt like static.
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  Speaker 2: That's by design, though, I mean, you have to assume
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  Speaker 2: that's part of the strategy. When you dump three million
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  Speaker 2: pages on the public, you're relying on.
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  Speaker 1: Fatigue, right, information overload.
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  Speaker 2: You're banking on the fact that people will read the headlines,
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  Speaker 2: the look for a celebrity name or two, and then
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  Speaker 2: they'll just scroll past. It's too much to process, right.
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  Speaker 1: The Easter Egg hunt approach. Everyone is looking for a
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  Speaker 1: famous actor, you know, a big name politician on a
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  Speaker 1: flight log. But that isn't really what we're doing today,
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  Speaker 1: because when you actually stack these documents up, the household manuals,
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  Speaker 1: the raw email server dumps, the surveillance logs, you stop
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  Speaker 1: seeing a gossip column. You start seeing a schematic, an architecture.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. This isn't about who met him. We've played that
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  Speaker 2: game for years and it's a distraction. The real insight,
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  Speaker 2: the value from this final tranche of data is how
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  Speaker 2: how did a man who is a convicted sex offender
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  Speaker 2: in two thousand and.
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  Speaker 1: Eight, a registered Level three offender.
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  Speaker 2: The highest risk category. How did that man maintain a
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  Speaker 2: position in the absolute cockpit of global influence for another decade.
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  Speaker 2: That's the question that is.
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  Speaker 1: The mission today. We are going to right to reverse
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  Speaker 1: engineer the machine. We're going to look at the household
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  Speaker 1: protocols that were designed to enforce silence. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: look at the academic shielding that laundered his reputation, and
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  Speaker 1: we are going.
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  Speaker 2: To look at the black box of his finances and
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  Speaker 2: political connections that kept it all running.
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  Speaker 1: I think we need to warn you listening to this.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the monality of evil today.
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  Speaker 1: You aren't going to hear about satanic rituals or anything
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, far from it. You're going to hear about
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  Speaker 2: tax advice and tissue box regulations and grant applications, and honestly,
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  Speaker 2: that is infinitely more terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: Before we turn on the flashlight and walk into that darkness,
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  Speaker 2: for that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's walk through the front door. I want to
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  Speaker 1: start with section one, the domestic machinery, because I have
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  Speaker 1: to say nothing in all three million pages prepared me
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  Speaker 1: for the household Manual.
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  Speaker 2: The Florida Manual, fifty eight pages of pure control.
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  Speaker 1: It reads like a technical manual for a nuclear facility
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  Speaker 1: or maybe a five star hotel run by a psychopath.
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  Speaker 1: But it's about how to clean a bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: But it isn't just cleanliness, is it. It's psychological domination
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  Speaker 2: from page one.
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  Speaker 1: It is about constructing what you called a private reality.
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  Speaker 1: That's the term I kept thinking of. When you control
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  Speaker 1: the environment to that degree of granularity, you are effectively
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  Speaker 1: brainwashing everyone who steps inside you.
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  Speaker 2: Are you're setting the terms of reality itself. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: look at the invisibility clause. That's probably the most direct
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  Speaker 2: and shilling part of the entire document.
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  Speaker 1: This give me chills. I'm reading it again now. The
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  Speaker 1: manual explicitly states remember that you see nothing, hear nothing,
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  Speaker 1: say nothing.
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  Speaker 2: See nothing here nothing say nothing. Now, in a normal
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  Speaker 2: high net worth household, you have discretion. Of course, you
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  Speaker 2: sign an NDA, you don't gotsp about the family.
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  Speaker 1: Sure that standard.
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  Speaker 2: But this is different. This is the elmortav organized crime.
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  Speaker 2: But it's codified into an employment contract for the housekeepers.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just be discreet, it is be blind.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: By forcing the staff to act as if they are
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  Speaker 2: blind and deaf, he is lowering the barrier for them
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  Speaker 2: to ignore the abuse happening right in front of them.
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  Speaker 2: If you were trained to be functionally invisible, you don't intervene.
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  Speaker 2: Intervention is the opposite of invisibility.
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  Speaker 1: It's conditioning. You're conditioning them to be non people and
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  Speaker 1: it went down to the very language they were allowed
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  Speaker 1: to use. This part was so bizarrely specific language policing.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't allowed to say gotcha, sure, or no problem,
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  Speaker 1: or even just yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Think about what that does. Yeah. It strips away their personality.
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  Speaker 2: It strips away any sense of casual rapport. Think about it.
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  Speaker 2: Those are equalizing words.
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  Speaker 1: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm your boss and I ask you to do
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  Speaker 2: something and you say gotcha, we're on a similar level.
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  Speaker 2: We have a shared understanding. If you say sure, it
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  Speaker 2: implies you have a choice in the matter, even if
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  Speaker 2: it's just a polite fiction.
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  Speaker 1: Right, It implies agency.
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  Speaker 2: It implies agency. By banning those words, he enforces a rigid,
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  Speaker 2: almost military style hierarchy. It reminds the staff constantly that
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  Speaker 2: they are not in a normal social interaction. They are
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  Speaker 2: subservient components of a machine.
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  Speaker 1: It dehumanizes them.
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  Speaker 2: It absolutely dehumanizes them, which again makes them less likely
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  Speaker 2: to see the humanity and the victims and therefore less
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  Speaker 2: likely to intervene. It's all part of the same system
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  Speaker 2: of control.
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  Speaker 1: And then we get to the obsessive, compulsive stuff, the
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  Speaker 1: things that on their own you might just write off
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  Speaker 1: as eccentric but together. The toothpaste tubes.
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  Speaker 2: Never less than half full, A new one had to
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  Speaker 2: be swapped in the second it hit the halfway mark,
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  Speaker 2: tissue box never less than one third full.
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  Speaker 1: What does that tell you about his headspace? Beyond just
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  Speaker 1: being a neat freak.
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  Speaker 2: It tells you he needed total, absolute, micromanaged control over
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  Speaker 2: his physical reality. It's a profound fear of disorder, a
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  Speaker 2: fear of unpredictability. There can be no surprises in his world,
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  Speaker 2: not even an almost empty tube of toothpaste.
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  Speaker 1: Because if you let the little things get chaotic.
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  Speaker 2: The big things might too. It's about creating a bubble
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  Speaker 2: of perfect order, a world where he is God and
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  Speaker 2: even the Kleenex bows to his will. But there's a
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  Speaker 2: pivot in that manual, a really sharp one, there is.
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  Speaker 2: It goes from eccentric billionaire with OCD to something much
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  Speaker 2: much darker, to paramilitary commander. We have to talk about
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  Speaker 2: the bedside drawer, the gun. The manual explicitly required a
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  Speaker 2: handgun to be placed in the bedside drawer, not in
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  Speaker 2: a safe, not locked away in the drawer. Ready.
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  Speaker 1: This changes the entire texture of the whole house. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just a luxury villa in Palm Beach anymore. It's
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  Speaker 1: a fortress, it's an armed compound.
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  Speaker 2: It implies a state of constant siege, paranoia. Who was
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  Speaker 2: he afraid of or? And this is perhaps more disturting,
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  Speaker 2: it implies the threat of lethal force was always within
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  Speaker 2: arm's reach.
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  Speaker 1: Of the bed, which is where the primary victimization took place.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely, it adds this layer of implicit violence to the
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  Speaker 2: entire environment. It's a constant, unspoken threat, not just to outsiders,
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  Speaker 2: but to everyone inside those walls. It's dominance.
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  Speaker 1: It's a reminder of his power, the power of life
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  Speaker 1: and death, right there next to where he sleeps and
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  Speaker 1: where his victims were brought.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how we could operate for so long. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't just have money and connections. He engineered a micro
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  Speaker 2: society from the ground up, where silence was the law,
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  Speaker 2: surveillance was constant, and violence was always implied.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of surveillance, the new files from the DOJ finally
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  Speaker 1: gave us the technical specs of Little Saint James. And
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  Speaker 1: for the tech crowd listening, this is where your years
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  Speaker 1: should perk up. We are not talking about a standard
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  Speaker 1: ADT home security system you get at Best.
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  Speaker 2: Buy no, not even close. This was an enterprise grade,
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  Speaker 2: private surveillance state. The documents are littered with references to
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  Speaker 2: ubiquity networking gear. We're talking high end cameras covering every
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  Speaker 2: conceivable blind spot, powerful Wi Fi access points, logging every
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  Speaker 2: single connection.
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  Speaker 1: The island was a data harvesting.
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  Speaker 2: Machine completely, and the DJ confirmed it. Yeah. They seize
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  Speaker 2: the storage devices, the physical hard drives, so we know
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  Speaker 2: the footage exists, or at least existed. The logs reference
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  Speaker 2: specific recordings, specific dates, but the footage itself, the footage is.
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  Speaker 1: The ghost in the machine. It's the thing everyone talks
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  Speaker 1: about but no one has seen.
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  Speaker 2: But think about the psychological effect of that, the panopticon effect.
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  Speaker 2: If you are a prince or a CEO or a
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  Speaker 2: Nobel winning scientist visiting that island, you are smart enough
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  Speaker 2: to know those cameras are there, You see them.
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  Speaker 1: You know you're being watched constantly.
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  Speaker 2: And that knowledge is the leverage. He didn't necessarily need
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  Speaker 2: to sit you down in a dark room and show
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  Speaker 2: you a tape and say I own you now. The
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  Speaker 2: mere existence of the tape does the work for him.
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  Speaker 1: The insurance policy, it's.
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  Speaker 2: More than that. It ensures your loyalty. It ensures your silence.
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  Speaker 2: It's a passive coercion engine. The moment you step on
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  Speaker 2: that island, you are compromised. Whether you do anything wrong
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  Speaker 2: or not, you are on tape.
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  Speaker 1: In his world, it's the ultimate insurance policy. So, okay,
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  Speaker 1: he controls the physical environment completely, it's a hermetically sealed world.
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  Speaker 1: But he also needed a shield. He needed a way
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  Speaker 1: to walk around in polite society without people recoiling in horror.
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  Speaker 2: You needed he laundered.
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  Speaker 1: And that brings us to section two, the intellectual shield. Academia.
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  Speaker 2: This is critical. I think this is maybe the most
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  Speaker 2: important part of his entire operation. Epstein figured out very
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  Speaker 2: very early on that academia is the ultimate laundromat for
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  Speaker 2: a toxic reputation.
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  Speaker 1: Washing your reputation. That's a great way to put it.
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  Speaker 2: It is. If you're just a rich guy with a
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  Speaker 2: shady pass from New York, you're pariah. People will avoid you.
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  Speaker 2: But if you are hanging out with Nobel laureates, if
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  Speaker 2: you have an office at Harvard, if you are funding
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  Speaker 2: the cutting edge of theoretical physics.
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  Speaker 1: Well then you're not a criminal. You're a philanthropist. You're
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  Speaker 1: a thinker. A patron of the sciences.
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  Speaker 2: You're a misunderstood genius. And the files were released in
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  Speaker 2: January and last week really just blew the lid off
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  Speaker 2: how deep this strategy went. We have to talk about
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  Speaker 2: Noam Chomsky.
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  Speaker 1: This was a shock to many people. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: Noam Chomsky for generations. He's been seen and is the
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  Speaker 1: moral conscience of the left, the great anti imperialist, the
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  Speaker 1: critic of.
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  Speaker 2: Power, and here he is deep in the files. He
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  Speaker 2: admitted after the initial documents surface, to receiving around two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy thousand dollars from Epstein. Now, his explanation
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  Speaker 2: is that it was his own money being moved around
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  Speaker 2: for technical accounting.
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  Speaker 1: Reason right, a financial pass through.
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  Speaker 2: But the relationship, as the email show, he just wasn't
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  Speaker 2: purely financial, It wasn't transactional.
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  Speaker 1: No, the emails show a genuine warmth, a friendship. There
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  Speaker 1: is a twenty fifteen email, and you have to remember
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  Speaker 1: the timeline. This is seven years after Epstein is a
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  Speaker 1: convicted registered sex offender, where Epstein offers his apartments in
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  Speaker 1: New York and New Mexico to Chomsky and his family
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  Speaker 1: for a vacation.
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  Speaker 2: And Chomsky's response isn't get away from me, It's not
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  Speaker 2: lose my number. He describes his time with Epstein as
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  Speaker 2: a most valuable experience. He praises Epstein's limitless curiosity. Limitless curiosity,
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  Speaker 2: It's astounding, and it reveals something really uncomfortable, that intelligence,
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  Speaker 2: even genius level intelligence, is not a safeguard against manipulation.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, it might be a vulnerability. Epstein knew how
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  Speaker 2: to flatter these men intellectually. He didn't just give them money.
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  Speaker 2: He presented himself as a peer, a fellow mind wrestling
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  Speaker 2: with the big questions. And for someone like Chomsky, that
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  Speaker 2: intellectual validation, the funding of his ideas, the serious discussions,
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  Speaker 2: it seemingly overrode the moral reality of who he was
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  Speaker 2: dealing with.
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  Speaker 1: The ego is a powerful thing. But if the Chomsky
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  Speaker 1: connection is disappointing, the revelations about Martin Nowak are They're
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  Speaker 1: just terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of the darkest, most cryptic corners of
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  Speaker 2: the entire twenty twenty sixth release. It's just chilling.
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  Speaker 1: So for context, Martin Noak a big shot Harvard professor
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  Speaker 1: evolutionary dynamics. He was sort of the golden boy of
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's academic circle received millions in funding, and there is
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  Speaker 1: this email exchange from twenty fourteen. I've read a dozen
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  Speaker 1: times and I still get chills.
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  Speaker 2: Read it out. I think it's important for people to
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  Speaker 2: hear the specific vocabulary being used.
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  Speaker 1: Noak writes to Epstein. The email says our spy was
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  Speaker 1: captured after completing her mission, and Epstein's reply is just forwards.
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  Speaker 2: Do you torture her?
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  Speaker 1: Did you torture her?
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  Speaker 2: What do you even do with that? Now, let's be careful,
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  Speaker 2: as you always say, we don't have the full context.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know who the spy is.
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  Speaker 1: It could be a joke, but what kind of joke
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  Speaker 1: is that captured mission torture? That's not the language of
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  Speaker 1: academic research grants. It suggests a shared private language, a
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  Speaker 1: dark vernacular, an inside joke perhaps, but a joke about
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  Speaker 1: torture between a tenured Harvard professor and a convicted sex trafficker.
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  Speaker 1: It implies an intimacy that is just deeply, deeply disturbing.
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  Speaker 2: It completely contradicts the university's narrative that this was all
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  Speaker 2: just about the funding. Oh, we just took his money.
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  Speaker 1: You don't joke about torturing spies with a donor you
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  Speaker 1: have a purely professional, arms length relationship with. It implies
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  Speaker 1: they're in on something together.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like they're playing a game, a really dark,
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  Speaker 2: twisted game, or that they viewed the people around them,
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  Speaker 2: perhaps the young women around them, as pawns in some
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  Speaker 2: sort of operational game. It suggests complicity in a worldview,
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  Speaker 2: a shared mindset, if not in specific crimes. It's just
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  Speaker 2: it's awful.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's Larry Summers. This is another one that's
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  Speaker 1: just it's gross, the former Treasury secretary, former president of
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  Speaker 1: Harvard that emails between him and Epstein are they're not
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  Speaker 1: about science.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're locker room talk. That's the only way to
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  Speaker 2: describe it.
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  Speaker 1: Summers is in there asking Epstein for romantic advice. And
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  Speaker 1: then there's that one email where Summers jokes about a
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  Speaker 1: study on gender and intelligence, saying he was surprised that
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  Speaker 1: half the IQ in the world was possessed by women,
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  Speaker 1: as if that was some kind of revelation.
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  Speaker 2: And it serves to humanize these powerful figures in the
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  Speaker 2: absolute worst possible way. It strips away the gravitas of
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  Speaker 2: mister Secretary or President Summers and shows you two guys
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  Speaker 2: trading misogynistic banter, and again.
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  Speaker 1: This bonds them to Epstein. It's a form of complicity.
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  Speaker 1: Once you've engaged in that kind of talk with him,
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  Speaker 1: you're part of the club. You've signaled that you share
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  Speaker 1: or at least tolerate his low regard for women.
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  Speaker 2: It's the boys club mentality, and he weaponized it. He
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  Speaker 2: used it to draw people in and make them feel
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  Speaker 2: like they were on the inside.
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  Speaker 1: So we have the house as a controlled environment. We
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  Speaker 1: have the professors providing the intellectual cover. Now we have
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  Speaker 1: to look at the power Center itself. Section three the
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  Speaker 1: political spectrum. And I want to be very very clear
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  Speaker 1: here because the Internet loves to turn this into a
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  Speaker 1: partisan football.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, this is crucial. If you are listening to this
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  Speaker 2: looking for a hit piece on just the Democrats or
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  Speaker 2: just the Republicans, you are going to be profoundly disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: The files show unequivocally that Epstein was an equal opportunity influencer.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't care about red versus blue.
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  Speaker 2: He cared about power go full stop. The color of
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  Speaker 2: the jersey didn't matter to him.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's start with the Clinton connection. This has
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  Speaker 1: been the elephant in the room for twenty years. The
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  Speaker 1: new files absolutely confirmed the flight logs. Bill Clinton flew
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  Speaker 1: on Epstein's jet for foundation trips to Africa to Asia.
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  Speaker 1: That is a documented fact.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, it happened. But we have to make a crucial
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  Speaker 2: distinction that these new files help clarify. Clinton is all
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  Speaker 2: over the flight logs. He is not in Epstein's personal
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  Speaker 2: contact book in the same intimate way many others are.
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  Speaker 1: That's an interesting detail, it is.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a very specific email from twenty eleven that
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  Speaker 2: surfaced in this final release that I think changes the
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  Speaker 2: narrative in a significant way.
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  Speaker 1: This is the island dispute you mentioned right.
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  Speaker 2: For years, the rumor of the allegation was that Clinton
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  Speaker 2: visited Little Saint James. But in twitter eleven, Epstein himself
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  Speaker 2: writes an email to a contact explicitly addressing this rumor.
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  Speaker 2: He says, and I'm quoting from the document, Clinton was
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  Speaker 2: never on the island. He calls the stories complete and
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  Speaker 2: utter fantasy.
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  Speaker 1: And the question is why would Epstein lie about that
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  Speaker 1: in a private email to an associate.
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  Speaker 2: There's no reason to he wouldn't. That's the point. This
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  Speaker 2: isn't a press release. This is him in private clarifying
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  Speaker 2: the reality to an associate. So what we're left with
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  Speaker 2: is a complex picture. We have deep association, we have
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  Speaker 2: dozens of flights on the jet. We have that infamous
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  Speaker 2: photo of Clinton getting a neck massage from Chantey.
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  Speaker 1: Davies, though she has gone on record multiple times saying
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  Speaker 1: he was a perfect gentleman and nothing untoward happened.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Correct. So you have all of that proximity. But the
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: most damning specific allegation, the island visits, seems to be
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: debunked by Epstein himself in his own private communications.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Which is a nuance that gets completely lost in the
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: social media headlines. Of course, of course, Okay, now let's
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: pivot and look at the other side of the aisle,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the Trump and Bannon connection. And this was a genuine
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: curveball in the twenty twenty sixth release.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I thought, a huge curveball. First, we had to acknowledge
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: the strange irony that it was Donald Trump who signed
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: the Epstein Files Transparency Act in November of twenty twenty five.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: He's the one who ultimately forced this final.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Release, which is a very interesting political move in and
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: of itself.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: It is, but the files themselves, what they contain reveal
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: a deep and previously unknown connection between Epstein and Steve Bannon,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Trump's former chief strategist, and we're not talking about casual acquaintance.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: We are seeing Epstein acting as a literal political strategist
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: for Bannon's European nationalist movement in twenty eighteen.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: This blew my mind. I always thought of Epstein as
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: a financial guy, maybe a science philanthropist. But here he is,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: years after his conviction, giving geopolitical advice to the heart
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: of the American far right.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: There's that one quote about Europe. Epstein is advising Bannon
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: on how to build his populist alliance, and he writes,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Europe can be a wife, not a mistress. Lots and
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: lots of FaceTime.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: It's such a quintessentially Epstein way of viewing geopolitics. Everything
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: is a sexual or transactional relationship. He's advising Bannon on
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: how to court the European far right, telling him how
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: to handle the German media.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: It completely changes our understanding of him. He wasn't just
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: a pervert with a plane. He was actively trying to
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: shape geopolitical outcomes. He saw himself as a Kissinger level
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: operator using the American populace movement as a vehicle to
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: influence European politics.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: And then there's the real time meddling in American politics.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: The texts with Stacy Plaskett, I mean, this is the
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: audacity is just off the charts.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: It's brazen. So Stacey Plaskett is the congressional delegate for
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the US virgin Islands, where Epstein had his island. The
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: files contained text messages between her and Epstein while she
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: is in the middle of a congressional hearing.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: He's texting her suggested questions to ask, specifically regarding the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Trump organization, and her reply.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Her reply is yep very aware and waiting my turn.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: He is literally directing a sitting member of Congress like
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a puppet while she is on the days in the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: hearing room.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: It shows that he viewed elected officials not as authorities
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: to be respected, but as assets, as tools to be directed.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Ask this question, go after this person, And the scariest
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: part is they listened.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: It really reinforces that idea of the black box. He's
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: inside the machine, pulling the levers that no one else
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: can see. But levers require Greece require money, and that
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: brings us to Section four. The financial enablers because none
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of this happens without money, massive, massive amounts of money.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: The Billionaire's club. This is where the rubber meets the road.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: You can't run a global sex trafficking operation and a
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: private influence network on pocket change. You need a river
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: of cash.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Let's start with Leon Black, the founder of Apollo Global Management.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: The numbers here are just staggering. We knew they were close,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: but the new files confirm he paid one hundred and
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: seventy million dollars in fees to Epstein.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy million dollars for what he claimed
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: was tax and estate planning advice.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Must have been the best tax device in human history.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: But the new documents show something much darker. They detail
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars in gifts to a former model
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: who is also connected to Epstein. And then there's the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: advice Epstein gave Black on how to handle a mistress
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: who was threatening to go public.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: And this is where we see Epstein's true value proposition
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: to these men. He wasn't just making the money. He
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: was their fixer.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: He was there cleaner like a real life ray Donnovan.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Precisely, the file show Epstein advised Black to use former
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Scotland yard types to fly to the woman's house and
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: deliver an NDA. He offered a method of professional intimidation.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: So the service he provided was, We'll send some scary
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: guys to knock on her door and make this problem
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: go away.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Exactly. He absorbed their sins. He handled the messy, dirty
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: parts of their lives so they could remain reputable billionaires
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: in public. He was the manager of their private depravity.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And then there's just Staley, the former head of JP
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Morgan's private bank. The hot tub email. I feel like
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: this one single email just encapsulates the entire delusion of
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: these people.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: It is poetic and its profound lack of self awareness.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: It's almost beautiful, and how awful it is. Staley writes
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: this email to Epstein while he is literally sitting in
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Epstein's hot tub on Little Saint James.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And what does he say?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: He says, the world outside is crumbling. This was around
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the time of the financial crisis. But here on this
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: island it is a place of peace.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: A place of peace. The island that was the hub
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: of an international child sex trafficking ring is a place
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of peace for the man running one of the world's
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: biggest banks.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: It just speaks to a level of compartmentalization that is
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: almost impossible for a normal person to comprehend. Staley didn't
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: see the victims. He didn't see the crimes. He saw
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: the luxury. He saw the exclusivity. He saw a sanctuary
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: from the pressures of his high powered life, his profound,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: sole deep moral blindness.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And we can't talk about moral blindness without talking about
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the royals. Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. The twenty twenty
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: six files were not kind to them, to say the least.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Not at all. There's a twenty ten email. Again, this
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: is two years after the Florida conviction. This is an
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: ancient history. Epstein is a known quantity and he emails
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Prince Andrew to set him up with a woman.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: How does he describe her?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: The email says she is twenty six, Russian, clever, beautiful,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and Prince Andrew's reply is that he would be.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Delighted, delighted after everything that had come out in two
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: thousand and eight after the conviction, he is still delighted
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to be taking dates arranged by Jeffrey Epstein.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: It shows either a complete disregard for the reputational risk,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: or more likely, a genuine belief that he was untouchable,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: that the rules simply did not apply to him. And
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: then you have his ex wife, Sarah Ferguson, asking Epstein
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: for a script.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe this one. She was going to be
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: interviewed by Oprah Winfrey, and she literally asked Epstein what
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: she should say about their friendship, What do I say.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: When Oprah asked about you? And Epstein writes the script
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: for her. He literally puts the words in her mouth.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: He tells her to say he was unfairly targeted, that
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: he'd paid his debt to society. He was the pr
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: manager for the associates of the British Royal family.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. He's directing congresswomen and hearings. He is scripting
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: duchesses for Oprah. He is fixing problems for Wall Street millionaires.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And that brings us to the big overarching question, the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: one that everyone always whispers about Section five, the spy theory.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: The intelligence angle, the spook stuff.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: For years, there has been this theory that Epstein was
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: an intelligence sasset massad some foreign agency. Do these new
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: files finally support that or is this all just internet fantasy.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Well, let's be clear, there is no smoking gun. There
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: is no document in these three million pages. There's an
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: ID card that says Jeffrey Epstein's.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Buy for hire right, No official badge.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: No, But the pattern of behavior, the constellation of facts.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: It mimics intelligence operations perfectly. It walks like a duck
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and it quacks like a duck.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So what are the duck like behaviors we see?
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, First, the high level contacts. We have confirmed meetings
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: with Ahud Barak, the former Israeli Prime minister. Their emails
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: discuss Pallenteer and geopolitical strategy.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Pollunteer, the data mining and intelligence software company.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Very same. We have confirmed meetings with a Russian ambassador
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: to the un VA Lead Cherkin. We have meetings with
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a Russian deputy minister. Now you have to ask yourself,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: why is a supposedly disgraced money manager from New York
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: having strategic meetings with former heads of Israeli intelligence and
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: high level Russian diplomats.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: It doesn't track with the public persona. And then we
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: have to go back to that spy email with the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Harvard professor Martin Nowak.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, our spy was captured after completing her mission? Did
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: you torture her? That is intelligence world.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Vocabulary and the files also contain mentions of William Burns,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the current CIA director. Now his spokesperson has denied the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: meetings ever happened, but his name is in Epstein's calendar.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: It is so he added all up the blackmail material
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: he was collecting with his surveillance infrastructure, the high level
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: diplomatic and intelligence contacts from multiple often rivaled countries, the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: obsession with information and leverage.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: So what's the verdict? Is he a spy or not?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: My analysis is this whether or not he was ever
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: on an official government payroll. He was functioning as an
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: intelligence broker. He trafficked in information and secrets as his
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: primary commodity. He collected compromat, He built profiles on the
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: most powerful people in the world in the world of intelligence.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: That makes you an asset, whether you are officially sworn
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: in or not.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: He was a free agent spy, a private intelligence agency
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: of one.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: A merchant of leverage. He sold access and he collected secrets.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Which would also explain why he seems so untouchable for
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: so long. If you have compromising information on everyone.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: No one can afford to take you down. It's the
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: principle of mutually assured destruction applied to personal secrets.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's move to our final category of enablers, section six,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the tech titans. Because it wasn't just old money from
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Wall Street and European politicians. The Silicon Valley crowd was
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: all over this too.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Curiosity or complicity, that's always the question with them.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Let's start with Elon Musk. The files show some strange emails.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: There's talk about a wildest party, Musk is asking about
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the island, and there's even a mention of them practicing
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: kung fu together.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: It's bizarre, and I think it reflects a certain kind
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: of tech world hubris. There is this desire to be
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: where the action is, to be at the absolute edge
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: of science culture power. Epstein very successfully positioned himself as
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: being at that edge.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: So if you were a disruptor, if you saw yourself
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: as a genius changing the world, you.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Had to hang out with the other geniuses at Epstein's townhouse.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: It's a kind of intellectual and social fomo fear of
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: missing out. For billionaires, what's happening on that island? I
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: need to see it, I need to be part of
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the conversation.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: It's a status symbol. And what about Bill Gates. The
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: narrative has always been that their meetings were strictly about philanthropy,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: about the Gates Foundation.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: We know about the confirmed meetings regarding global health and philanthropy, yes,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: But the volume of meetings in the logs, the repeated contacts,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: it complicates the narrative of a purely social or professional relationship.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: There was a relationship there, a sustained one, long after
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Epstein's conviction.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: It seems like for the tech guys, Epstein was a gateway.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: They had the new money of the futuristic vision, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: he had the dusty old rolodex full of prime ministers
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and royals and heads of state.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: He was the bridge between the new power of Silicon
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Valley and the old power of geopolitics and finance. And
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: they were all too willing to cross that bridge, despite
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: knowing or willfully ignoring what the toll was.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: So we've unpacked the house, the academics, the politicians, the money,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the spies, and the tech bros. It is a lot
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: to take in.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: It's a complete ecosystem, a self sustaining world, of power,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: abuse and silence.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: So let's try to bring this home. Let's try to
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: make sense of it all. What does it all mean?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: You mentioned the banality of evil at the very beginning
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: of our discussion.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, the concept from the philosopher Hannah aren't when we
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: look at these files, we want to see a cabal
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: of monsters. We want to see people in robes in
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: a basement, chanting and plotting the end of the world,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: because that would be simple, that would be easy to understand.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: But we don't see that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: No, we see emails about tax advice. We see emails
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: about getting op eds published in the Wall Street Journal.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: We see two guys joking about dating.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: We see powerful people plotting their careers. We see academics
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: plotting how to get grant funding. We see them all
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: intensely worried about their public relations, all while the abuse,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the horrific, systematic, industrial scale abuse of young women, is
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: happening in the next room, or on the same private jet,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: or on the same island.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: That's the real horror of it. It's not that they
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: were all necessarily participating in the abuse directly, but that
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the abuse wasn't a deal breaker for them.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: It was an acceptable overhead cost for access, an unfortunate
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: externality of doing business with the brilliant, connected, wealthy Jeffrey Epstein.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: They normalized the abnormal because he made them feel important
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: or rich or smart.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: So why does this matter now? It's twenty twenty six.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Epstein is dead, Gisline, Maxwell is in prison. Why are
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: we still digging through these files? What's the so what?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Because the system hasn't changed, the architecture of influence that
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: enabled Epstein, the opacity of private banking, the desperate dependency
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: of academic institutions on donor money, the way the ultra
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: wealthy are insulated from the consequences of the law that
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: is all still in place. Nothing has fundamentally been fixed.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: So Epstein himself is gone, but the next Epstein or
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the current Epstein's we don't know about, are using the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: exact same playbook they are.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Private islands still exist, non disclosure agreements are still weaponized.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Philanthropy is still used to wash dirty reputations. It's the
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: same machinery. We've just been given the blueprints for one
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: specific machine that finally broke down and caught fire.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: That is a truly terrifying thought that the scariest part
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: of this whole story isn't the monster. It's the long
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: line of respectable people who were waiting to get into
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the monster's party because he had a private jet and
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: interesting friends, and.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Because he could get them a meeting with the President,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: or an introduction at Harvard, or a solution to a
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: messy personal problem.
• 29:34
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• 29:37
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• 29:40
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• 29:47
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• 29:50
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• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Before we go, I want to leave you with one
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: final thought to Mollover. We talked about the surveillance. The
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: camera's everywhere, the pent optical on the island. We know
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the DOJ sees the hard drives. We know the footage exists.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: It's logged as evidence.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: We have the logs, we have the emails describing the footage,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: but we don't have the footage itself. It has never
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: been released. So the question is where is it Who
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: is holding that leverage now?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: That is the multi billion dollar and perhaps multi trillion
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: dollar question. If Jeffrey Epstein was a merchant of leverage,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: his inventory didn't just vanish when he died. It's sitting
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: in a government evidence locker somewhere or perhaps somewhere else.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: And whoever has that drive, whoever has those tapes, Yeah,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: they hold the keys to the castle.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Indeed they do.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Thanks for going beyond the in prographics with us. We'll
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: see you next time.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Stay curious and stay vigilant.