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Victoria Moran – Age Like a Yogi · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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Speaker 1: My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
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Speaker 1: the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
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Speaker 1: we will explore these topics and so much more with
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Speaker 1: fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
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Speaker 1: destination Unlimited. While advanced age is revered by some, very
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Speaker 1: few are in a hurry to get there is their
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Speaker 1: wisdom in the ancient practices of yoga and ayr Veda
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Speaker 1: that will allow us to age with both physical and
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Speaker 1: spiritual health. My guest this week on Destination Unlimited, Victoria Moran,
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Speaker 1: says yoga and ayr Veda are the keys to aging beautifully.
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Speaker 1: Victoria Moran is a longtime devotee of yoga and author
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Speaker 1: of thirteen previous books on well being, compassionate living, and
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Speaker 1: a collectic spirituality. Creating a Charmed Life was an international
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Speaker 1: bestseller and Shelter for the Spirit, and lit from Within
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Speaker 1: earned her spots on the Oprah Winfrey Show. Victoria hosts
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Speaker 1: the Main Street Vegan podcast, is founder and director of
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Speaker 1: the main Street Vegan Academy, and a co founder of
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Speaker 1: Compassion Consortium and Interfaith Spiritual Center based on the principle
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Speaker 1: of ahimsa. She was at age sixty six, voted Pete's
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Speaker 1: sexiest vegan over fifty and in her early seventies trained
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Speaker 1: as a yoga instructor and raja yoga instructor. Victoria is
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Speaker 1: a frequent speaker and podcast guest based in New York City.
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Speaker 1: Her website is Victoriamoran dot com, and she joins me
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Speaker 1: this week to share her path and just published fourteenth book,
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Speaker 1: Age Like a Yogi, A Heavenly Path to a dazzling
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Speaker 1: Third Act. Please join me in welcoming to Destination Unlimited,
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Speaker 1: Victoria Moran. Welcome, Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Why, thank you, Victor. I love the idea of the
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Speaker 2: destination being unlimited.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's what this is about. So Victoria, please share
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Speaker 1: with our listeners your first act and the events that
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Speaker 1: shaped your path.
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Speaker 2: Ah you know, I knew from the time I was
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Speaker 2: a little bitty that I had been somewhere before this,
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Speaker 2: and my first spiritual experience was before my third birthday.
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Speaker 2: My nanny took me out in the dark of night,
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Speaker 2: and I don't really know why, probably my parents were
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Speaker 2: having a fight, but I remember being pushed in my
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Speaker 2: stroller and looking up at the stars. I grew up
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Speaker 2: in Kansas City, Missouri, a place where you can see
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Speaker 2: the stars, and I remember thinking, they're in that stroller,
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Speaker 2: that's home, and I'm here now, and this is fine.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to do this thing, but it is not home.
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Speaker 2: So I've always been a little bit odd that way.
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Speaker 2: This nanny pushing the stroller was also a really interesting woman.
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Speaker 2: I call her my first guru. She had studied Rosicrucianism,
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Speaker 2: she'd been in Christian science. By the time I came along,
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Speaker 2: she was in Unity and had mellowed out a little bit,
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Speaker 2: but still raised me on reincarnation and the idea that
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Speaker 2: all religions are really trying to get people back home,
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Speaker 2: and that whenever there was the idea of our scripture
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Speaker 2: is better than yours, and our guy is better than yours,
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Speaker 2: it's really because people just haven't opened up to the
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Speaker 2: oneness of life. So I was very fortunate to have
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Speaker 2: that upbringing early on. And I discovered yoga at seventeen.
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Speaker 2: I already tried to read Christian mysticism and other things
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Speaker 2: and very interested in all of this stuff, and then
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Speaker 2: yoga really really touched me. I found three books in
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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Missouri Public Library Yoga, Youth and Reincarnation
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Speaker 2: by a journalist named Jess Stern, and two books by
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Speaker 2: Indra Devi, who was this wonderful, brilliant antie mame kind
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Speaker 2: of Russian woman who brought Hafa yoga, the physical kind
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Speaker 2: of yoga, to the West, and those books were Yoga
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Speaker 2: for Americans and Forever Young, Forever Healthy. Now I was seventeen,
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Speaker 2: and so reading a book about Forever Young and reading
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Speaker 2: another one about Yoga, Youth and Reincarnation may have seemed
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Speaker 2: strange to some people, but for me it just made
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Speaker 2: perfect sense. You know, we're eternal, we need to know
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Speaker 2: about all this stuff. So that was my introduction. I
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Speaker 2: moved to London on my eighteenth birthday because that was
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Speaker 2: where everything was happening at that time, and discovered by
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Speaker 2: divine accident. Watkins Books, beautiful little new age spiritual kind
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Speaker 2: of bookshop and a lovely little alley way street called
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Speaker 2: Cecil Court that's around the for Falgar Square area, and
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Speaker 2: Watkins completely woke me up everything that my nanny had
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Speaker 2: not introduced me to Watkins did. I found my first
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Speaker 2: yoga teacher there. She had a sign and we're still
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Speaker 2: in touch. Stella is ninety nine, absolutely beautiful, lives in
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Speaker 2: a third floor walk up. And when I came back
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Speaker 2: from England, I was very involved in unity. I lived
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Speaker 2: for a time at the Theosophical Society in Illinois, worked
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Speaker 2: in their library. Later I worked in their publishing house,
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Speaker 2: and then I got very involved in the vegetarian movement.
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Speaker 2: Was vegetarian from the time I came back from England,
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Speaker 2: became Vega, and later done a lot of work in
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Speaker 2: that area and started writing books. And now you know,
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Speaker 2: we're at number fourteen, and I'm still very entranced by
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Speaker 2: the big picture.
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Speaker 1: Please tell us about your organization. Main Street Vegan can't.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Main Street Vegan Academy grew from my twenty twelve
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Speaker 2: book Main Street Vegan, and it was kind of a
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Speaker 2: funny thing. I was really wanting this title, Main Street Vegan,
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Speaker 2: because I felt it was a divine title. I'd been
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Speaker 2: at a peta, a fundraiser, and they'd showed footage about
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Speaker 2: the things that humans do to animals, and I had
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Speaker 2: already been in that world for a very long time.
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Speaker 2: I had seen images like that before, but for some
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Speaker 2: reason that night, my heart was extra open, and as
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Speaker 2: you well know, you got to watch out for that,
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Speaker 2: because when your heart is really open, you're probably going
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Speaker 2: to get some kind of divine download. And so coming
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Speaker 2: home in the train, I was kind of lamenting the
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Speaker 2: fact that I wasn't able to just write a check
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Speaker 2: for one hundred thousand dollars, you know, so they could
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Speaker 2: go fix something big. And I just really felt the
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Speaker 2: voice of the divine saying no, But here's what you
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Speaker 2: can do. You can write a book and call it
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Speaker 2: main Street Vegan. It needs to have forty little chapters
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Speaker 2: because people don't have long attention spans anymore. You need
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Speaker 2: to put a recipe at the end of each one.
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, I can do that. I can
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Speaker 2: do that. So we got a publisher, a very nice publisher,
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Speaker 2: a Penguin Random House for the book. But the first
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Speaker 2: time I talked to my editor, she said, we're so
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Speaker 2: happy to have you, but we hate Main Street. It
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Speaker 2: sounds like the tea Party. So we're, you know, back
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Speaker 2: in the twenty eleven kind of timeframe. And they bought
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Speaker 2: it so they could name it whatever they wanted to.
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Speaker 2: And I was feeling kind of bad about that, but
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Speaker 2: you know, that's how it was. And then I had
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Speaker 2: a miracle, and I do get these, and I think
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Speaker 2: all of us who are kind of on this spiritual path,
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Speaker 2: these things happen. And sometimes I think we're even embarrassed
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Speaker 2: about them because we don't know if they happen to everybody,
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Speaker 2: and we don't want to act like we're special or something.
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Speaker 2: I just think it's because we're looking for them. But anyway,
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Speaker 2: my husband and I are walking up Broadway and there
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Speaker 2: is somebody so famous you can recognize him from the back.
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Speaker 2: You want to guess?
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Speaker 1: No, go ahead, okay.
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Speaker 2: So that was Michael Moore, the filmmaker, and he had
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Speaker 2: liked one of my earlier books, and he said we
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Speaker 2: need to talk. We need to talk about food, which
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Speaker 2: I was happy to do. So we started talking and
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Speaker 2: one night, in one of our conversations, I was saying, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: this book that I'm writing, I wanted it to be
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Speaker 2: called main Street Vegan. Publisher hates that. He said, no,
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Speaker 2: it's perfect because everybody in America thinks they're main Street.
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Speaker 2: Let me talk to them. So I had this amazing
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Speaker 2: three way call with my editor and an Academy Award
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Speaker 2: winner and me, and he talked her into a main
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Speaker 2: Street Vegan. But she had to run it past the
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Speaker 2: higher ups, and a few days later when she called
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Speaker 2: to tell me that they had said, okay, that's your title.
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Speaker 2: It was like those little bubbles in comic books. It's like, Oh,
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Speaker 2: there ought to be a main street vegan podcast. There
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Speaker 2: ought to be a main street vegan production company, and
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Speaker 2: there ought to be a main street vegan academy training
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Speaker 2: vegan lifestyle coaches. So we did, and I just set
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Speaker 2: that up. The podcast also happened kind of marvelously as well.
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Speaker 2: And I had been writing really spiritual books. My very
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Speaker 2: first book was about veganism. My second book was kind
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Speaker 2: of about plant based health and that sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: And my third book was My Journey Out of Food Addiction,
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Speaker 2: and the spiritual part was in the front and the
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Speaker 2: plant based part was the second half. But after those
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Speaker 2: I had been writing all in the kind of spiritual
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Speaker 2: contemporary spirituality world. So I didn't have a huge following
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Speaker 2: in the vegan space, and I didn't know if anybody
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Speaker 2: would come to that first academy, but they did. We
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Speaker 2: were doing it live in New York City, then at
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Speaker 2: thirteen students the first time, and then they started going
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Speaker 2: out doing these miraculous things in the world. And now
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Speaker 2: we're on Zoom. We'll be doing our thirty seventh Cohart
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, and it's a wonderful experience because
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Speaker 2: people come together with some shared values and some differences too.
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Speaker 2: I think sometimes if you look from the outside in
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Speaker 2: on any sort of movement, like people that aren't vegan,
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Speaker 2: and maybe don't know why people would do that, and
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Speaker 2: you don't see that once you get in there, there's
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Speaker 2: all these different reasons. You know, spiritually and historically veganism
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Speaker 2: has been all about ethical living. It's been about the animals.
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Speaker 2: And yet there's a big movement in the area in
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Speaker 2: the US now for whole food, plant based living and
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Speaker 2: this is for health. And then a lot of people
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Speaker 2: are cutting down on or cutting completely out animal products
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Speaker 2: because of the environment. And you know, we see these
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Speaker 2: things like the fires in California and it's becoming so
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Speaker 2: you know in front of our faces that environmentalism is
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Speaker 2: not a hobby, it's a necessity. So we get people
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Speaker 2: from all different walks of life who want to share
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Speaker 2: the message with others. So that's been going on for
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Speaker 2: quite some time, and if anybody's interested. Main Street vegan
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Speaker 2: dot Com.
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you for the website. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for sharing that right away. You are, as we talked,
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Speaker 1: a prolific writer, and congratulations on your fourteenth age. Like
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Speaker 1: a Yogi it's just about to come out, correct.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fourteenth, So when are we airing.
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Speaker 1: We're airing on that day. No, I'm sorry, we're wearing
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Speaker 1: on the fifteenth.
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Speaker 2: Then a brand new new book, babe, one day old.
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Speaker 2: And I really do think of a book launch a
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Speaker 2: publication date really is like a birth because you don't
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Speaker 2: know putting a book out in the world what it's
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Speaker 2: going to do. Some of them reach a large audience,
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Speaker 2: some of them reach a smaller audience. But just about
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Speaker 2: any book, certainly in this kind of subject matter, is
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Speaker 2: going to touch somebody and change their lives. I'll always
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Speaker 2: remember I did a book talk in I believe it
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Speaker 2: was Omaha for a book that I wrote, Gosh, twenty
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Speaker 2: six years ago, creating a Charmed Life. And this woman
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Speaker 2: came up to me and said, after I read this book,
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Speaker 2: I realized what I needed to do. I got rid
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Speaker 2: of the abusive alcoholic, I got my ged, and I
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Speaker 2: got my kids back. And you know, if I never
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Speaker 2: did another thing in my whole life. Just the fact
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Speaker 2: that I wrote that book so that one woman could
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Speaker 2: read it was worth having a life on earth. So
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Speaker 2: books are magical.
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Speaker 1: I was just going to say, what does writing mean
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Speaker 1: to you? And do you consider writing a form of yoga?
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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, I consider words my currency for this lifetime.
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Speaker 2: And I actually learned recently that there is some sort
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Speaker 2: of I guess fairly newly named disorder they call nonverbal
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Speaker 2: learning disability. And when I read it, I thought, oh
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Speaker 2: my gosh, I'm glad I'm only finding out about this
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Speaker 2: at seventy four, because I would have gone through life
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Speaker 2: thinking of myself as having this disability. But I think
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Speaker 2: I have it. And people with nonverbal learning disability are
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Speaker 2: great with words. They're very articulate, they can write well,
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Speaker 2: they can speak well, but they tend to be pretty
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Speaker 2: awful at everything else. And that is so completely me.
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Speaker 2: I cannot carry a tune. I'm terrible with technology. I'm
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Speaker 2: terrible with anything mechanical, so bad in math that I
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Speaker 2: took it in summer school so that it wouldn't interfere
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Speaker 2: with my grade point average. And so words are extremely
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Speaker 2: important to me, and even in my spiritual life. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I need a mantra. You know a lot of people
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Speaker 2: do so beautifully. They meditate watching their breath, or they
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Speaker 2: watch a candle flame and they go so deep and
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Speaker 2: they such a beautiful, beautiful inner life. I need that mantra.
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Speaker 2: I need some kind of word. And so the upside
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Speaker 2: of that disability that it might be is that it's
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Speaker 2: given me a life's work. The fourteen books, hundreds of
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Speaker 2: magazine articles, lots and lots of presentations and radio and
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Speaker 2: TV and podcasts, and it's like, Okay, I came here,
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Speaker 2: I picked up the words, and thank you God what
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Speaker 2: you just.
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Speaker 1: Touched upon before about inspiring that woman. And you said,
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Speaker 1: if only one person gained something or learned something through
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Speaker 1: your writing, through your offerings, then it's all worthwhile. Your
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Speaker 1: purpose on earth is fulfilled. Do you find that the
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Speaker 1: truth that when we reach out to people sometimes in
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Speaker 1: everyday life, we may share a kind word, a thank you,
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Speaker 1: a smile, something nice, something something kind, And that one
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Speaker 1: act of kindness can change the world.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I am a big believer in ripples that
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Speaker 2: you say something nice to somebody and that puts them
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Speaker 2: in a better mood, and so the person they meet
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Speaker 2: on the next block may be in trouble and may
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Speaker 2: actually need some time or some assistance that they might
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Speaker 2: not have offered if they hadn't talked to you first.
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Speaker 2: So we just don't know where where all this stuff
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Speaker 2: is going. But I think there is something A spiritual
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Speaker 2: teacher of mine used to talk about the upward progression
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Speaker 2: of the universe, and I think every time we just
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Speaker 2: step up to the high road, even when it's difficult,
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Speaker 2: as it often is, we're contributing to that upward progression
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Speaker 2: of the universe.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, before we discuss age linka yogi, let's talk a
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Speaker 1: bit about your previous books. Just tell us a little
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Speaker 1: more about living a charmed life, your guide to finding
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Speaker 1: magic in every moment, every day.
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Speaker 2: Well, that is actually the tenth anniversary sequel to the
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Speaker 2: one that I mentioned earlier, Creating a Charmed Life, sensible
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Speaker 2: spiritual secrets every busy woman should know. So I'm going
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Speaker 2: to talk about them together. In all honesty, Victor, the
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Speaker 2: first one is so much better, you know, life handsiest stuff.
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Speaker 2: And when I was writing that sequel, it was in
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Speaker 2: a time of great grief and tragedy in my life.
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Speaker 2: My sixteen year old stepson died of a freak illness
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Speaker 2: came totally unexpectedly. My husband and I were in La
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Speaker 2: James our son was with his mom in Toronto, and
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Speaker 2: so I'd already sold the book. I was already in
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Speaker 2: and I had a deadline and I had to write it,
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Speaker 2: and so we went up to Woodstock because I thought
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Speaker 2: my husband might heal better outside New York City. But
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Speaker 2: what I didn't realize when we got there was I
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Speaker 2: absolutely can't stand not being in a city, and I
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Speaker 2: just need that city energy. So I was writing that
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Speaker 2: the sequel, the Living a Charmed Life in grief in
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Speaker 2: a place that I didn't resonate with. So it's it's
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Speaker 2: not what the first one was, but creating a Charmed Life,
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Speaker 2: which was Actually it's my best selling book. I think
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Speaker 2: it sold maybe more than all my others put together.
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Speaker 2: People love that little book. It's the idea that I
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Speaker 2: looked at my own life. And even though I was
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Speaker 2: pretty young when I was writing it, I would have
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Speaker 2: been forty five forty six when I started it, finished
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Speaker 2: it when I was forty eight. But my life had
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Speaker 2: not been all that easy, but it had been so magical,
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Speaker 2: just little things. I mean, I hadn't had my Michael
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Speaker 2: Moore story. Yet when I wrote that, but I met
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Speaker 2: one of the Beatles' managers in an elevator in Chicago,
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Speaker 2: and a year later, Paul McCartney was buying me a
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Speaker 2: drink in London. I mean, it's like, what, excuse me?
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Speaker 2: How does this happen? And there was so many serendipities
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Speaker 2: and just ways to move through life in the way
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Speaker 2: that I would have painted it if I could have painted,
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Speaker 2: and if I could have predicted the future. So I
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Speaker 2: just wanted to help other people have some kind of
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Speaker 2: sense of how, even in our lives that can be
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Speaker 2: difficult and we can run into all these problems, that
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Speaker 2: there can still be this magical thread that kind of
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Speaker 2: lifts us above the problems and makes extraordinary things happen.
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Speaker 2: So my very favorite of the seventy five Little Essays
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Speaker 2: in Creating a Charmed Life is one called play your
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Speaker 2: Free Square. So, Victor, have you played Bingo?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, anybody who's ever played Bingo knows that in
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Speaker 2: the middle of the Bingo card there is a free square.
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Speaker 2: It's just as valuable as B seventeen or fifty nine.
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Speaker 2: But you don't have to do anything to get it.
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Speaker 2: You don't have to be lucky, you don't have to
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Speaker 2: be smart. It just comes with the fact that you've
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Speaker 2: got a Bingo card. Well, life is like that Bingo card,
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Speaker 2: and each and every one of us has a free square.
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Speaker 2: Now this could be a talent. I think it's a
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Speaker 2: little more subtle than that. So I've talked to you
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Speaker 2: a little bit about me. So I would say words
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Speaker 2: are my talent, writing and speaking. But my free square
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Speaker 2: is running into people like we talked about the Beetle
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Speaker 2: manager and Michael Moore. And so if you look at
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Speaker 2: your life like what what do I just slide by
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Speaker 2: on what just happens to me? Like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: that doesn't seem to happen to most people. And if
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Speaker 2: you can't come up with your own free square, then
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Speaker 2: ask the people around you, because they see it. It's like,
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Speaker 2: oh wow, you know that he's always in the right
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Speaker 2: place at the right time, or she can talk her
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Speaker 2: way out of anything, or you know, whatever it is.
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Speaker 2: And this free square, I truly believe it's like a
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Speaker 2: stepping stone that gets us closer to where we need
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Speaker 2: to be in our life practically and spiritually.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, my guest is Victoria Moran, her new book age
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Speaker 1: Like a Yogi, a heavenly Path to a dazzling third act. Victoria,
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Speaker 1: please share with our listeners where they can get your
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Speaker 1: books and find out more about you and your wonderful work.
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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. Well, the books are available
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Speaker 2: wherever books are sold. And I have I mentioned the
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Speaker 2: Vegan dot com website. That's for if you have an
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Speaker 2: interest in that sort of thing. Uh, my Main Street
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Speaker 2: Vegan podcast is there, and the Academy. But my author
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Speaker 2: website is just my name, Victoriamoran dot com. And there's
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Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff there about this new book age
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Speaker 2: like a Yogi, all the other books. I even have
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Speaker 2: something that I think is fun, like a photo album,
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Speaker 2: like you know, this is me with my family and
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Speaker 2: animals and people maybe you've heard of, and it's just
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Speaker 2: kind of fun. So thanks for stopping by.
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Speaker 1: Wonderful and we'll be back with more Victoria after these
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Speaker 1: words on the Own Times Radio network.
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Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week Victoria Moran
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Speaker 1: her new book Age Like a Yogi, A Heavenly Path
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Speaker 1: to a Dazzling Third Act. Victoria, many of our listeners
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Speaker 1: are boomers and have reached the third act. What inspired
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Speaker 1: that new book, Age Like a Yogi, A Heavenly Path
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Speaker 1: to a Dazzling Third Act.
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Speaker 2: Well, I've been interested. I suppose I'd been interested in
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Speaker 2: aging all my life. I talked about those early yoga
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Speaker 2: books that had aging as a component. But I think
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Speaker 2: also because I was largely raised by a grandmother age person.
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Speaker 2: This nanny that I talked about Didi was I think
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Speaker 2: fifty six when I was born, and in those days
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Speaker 2: that would starting to get in the older reaches, and
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Speaker 2: so I just always felt a connection to older people.
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Speaker 2: And then when I turned fifty, I was very surprised
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Speaker 2: that physical changes that happened around that time of life.
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Speaker 2: And my first thought at that time was, well, what
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Speaker 2: can we do to make these not happen? In other words,
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Speaker 2: how do you stop the tide? And I think when
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Speaker 2: we first realized that we're no longer young, we start
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Speaker 2: thinking about, well, how do I look like? There was
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Speaker 2: a popular book about twenty years ago called How Not
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Speaker 2: to Look Old, and I remember thinking it's like, well, okay,
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Speaker 2: but don't you really want to have, you know, more
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Speaker 2: youthfulness internally? But yeah, I was. I was really interested
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Speaker 2: in that midlife period of what was going on and
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Speaker 2: how to approach that. Did a lot of research on that,
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Speaker 2: wrote a book called Younger by the Day, back when
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Speaker 2: I thought you could get younger. And so it's been
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Speaker 2: certainly an interest, and time has progressed since then. And
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Speaker 2: I've always had role models who were older than I am,
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Speaker 2: and some of them I've never met. Certainly celebrities that
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Speaker 2: are just so cool. You know, You've got Jane Fonda
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Speaker 2: and Cher and Dolly Parton, And even when we were
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Speaker 2: all younger, I would look to people of past generations.
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Speaker 2: There was a wonderful star of silent films and then
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Speaker 2: a lot of people know her for Sunset Boulevard, and
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Speaker 2: that was Glorias Swanson. When I first moved to New
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Speaker 2: York in two thousand, somebody who had given me the
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Speaker 2: phone number of man in his late nineties who had
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Speaker 2: played the organ in silent movie houses in his youth,
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Speaker 2: and he knew glorious wants and well. And he told
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Speaker 2: me that even at the end of her life, she
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Speaker 2: always looked flawless, and she would always wear white gloves
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Speaker 2: because her hands were the only part of her that
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Speaker 2: showed any age. So I found these people really fascinating.
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Speaker 2: And then as I started looking at those kind of
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Speaker 2: closer to home and women who had influenced me, mostly women,
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Speaker 2: some men to but being a woman, I was looking
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Speaker 2: more at them. And one of them that I write
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Speaker 2: about in the Introduction to Age Like a Yogi was
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Speaker 2: a woman named Iris White who was worked in our
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Speaker 2: library sometimes when we needed extra help. She was a
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Speaker 2: longtime theosophist, longtime spiritual seeker, and she would come in
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Speaker 2: and she would just bring this light. There's that wonderful
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Speaker 2: line in Wordsworth trailing clouds glory. I mean, here's Iris.
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Speaker 2: And she was late seventies, then, white hair up on
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Speaker 2: top of her head, wines on her face. Certainly there
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Speaker 2: was no mistaking her for somebody thirty years younger, but
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Speaker 2: she had this glow. And I remember meeting her when
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Speaker 2: I was twenty thinking, wait a minute, I'm young, I'm
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Speaker 2: supposed to have the glow, but this person in her
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Speaker 2: seventies has it. And that's when I really started to
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Speaker 2: make a study of what is it that causes somebody
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Speaker 2: of any age to just seem like they are to
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Speaker 2: name another one of my books, lit from Within, and
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Speaker 2: Iris was certainly one of those, and there were other
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Speaker 2: people through my life. And then I started thinking about
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Speaker 2: my yoga teachers, and my first yoga teacher. When I
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Speaker 2: moved to London, I started taking Austin and and of
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Speaker 2: course in Age like a Yogi, we talk about asana
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Speaker 2: in one chapter because this is about yoga philosophy, the
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Speaker 2: inner side of yoga, and also ayr Veda for health
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Speaker 2: of the physical body. But when I went to Stella's classes,
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Speaker 2: I think she was in her forties, and she just
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Speaker 2: seemed like she knew everything. I was so in awe.
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Speaker 2: I became like a daily student. And then for many
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Speaker 2: years in between, I lost her. I couldn't find her.
28:35
Speaker 2: I would go to London occasionally and I couldn't find her,
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Speaker 2: and I ultimately thought, oh, my goodness, she must have
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Speaker 2: met an untimely demise. But then when I was in
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Speaker 2: London about ten years ago, through the magic of social media,
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Speaker 2: there she was, so we've reconnected. She's ninety nine. She
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Speaker 2: has a salon in her apartment and her flat every
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Speaker 2: Sunday morning, and the only rule is no censorship. She
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Speaker 2: teaches a yoga class every week. It's chair yoga for
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Speaker 2: older people. But my goodness, she's ninety nine. And so
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Speaker 2: as I looked at people like that, and I thought,
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Speaker 2: these people who have been working on their inner lives
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Speaker 2: and also their total well being, physical health and inner
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Speaker 2: growth for a long time, and in many cases not
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Speaker 2: all this is earth. It's often inexplicable. We don't know
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Speaker 2: why some people live long and prosper, and other people
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Speaker 2: who seem to be doing everything right have something else happened.
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Speaker 2: And yet in so many instances, these people who had
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Speaker 2: been very actively involved in their spiritual lives for a
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Speaker 2: long time seemed to infuse the physical body with a
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Speaker 2: little bit of that spiritual longevity. And if we believe
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Speaker 2: that the spirit is eternal, then just a whiff of that,
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Speaker 2: it seems to me, can do quite a bit for
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Speaker 2: the body. Thus age like a yogi.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely you share that we are expressions of God. Please
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Speaker 1: explain and how this understanding is so important, especially in
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Speaker 1: our golden years.
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Speaker 2: Whether you believe that God made you and you are
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Speaker 2: loved by God, or whether you believe that you are
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Speaker 2: an expression of this divinity by whatever name you want
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Speaker 2: to call it, it's the same in a way. I
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Speaker 2: realize people like talking about the fine points of religion
30:51
Speaker 2: and spirituality, but in the big picture, either one of
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Speaker 2: those means that in your heart there is this truemendous
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Speaker 2: love and the way that I see it and all this,
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Speaker 2: of course is a working hypothesis, but from yoga philosophy,
31:11
Speaker 2: the idea is that that same light, that same divinity
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Speaker 2: is in each one of us. It's also in other
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Speaker 2: than human beings. It's this great connection of all life.
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Speaker 2: And when you get that, several things happen in terms
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Speaker 2: of aging. One is, oh, my gosh, there's this internal
31:39
Speaker 2: part of me that doesn't age. So I'm going to
31:43
Speaker 2: relate more to that than to this changing physical exterior,
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Speaker 2: which has changed and will change and will one day
31:53
Speaker 2: no longer be here. But for now I am going
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Speaker 2: to relate to that divine within, So that's pretty magical
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Speaker 2: and wonderful. And the other thing that happens when you
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Speaker 2: really get it that you are divine. It's like you're
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Speaker 2: lifted up from what's going on and you're steered from within.
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Speaker 2: So you talked about serendipities, and I think that this
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Speaker 2: being steered from within helps you have more of those.
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Speaker 2: It helps you make the right split second decision. It
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Speaker 2: helps you know which road to take if, for example,
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Speaker 2: you're run into a health challenge and there's more than
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Speaker 2: one way to proceed. I find it so fascinating in
32:55
Speaker 2: the medical world that they will say, well, here's what
32:58
Speaker 2: we could do. What do you want to do? It's like,
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Speaker 2: wait a minute, the patient isn't supposed to know all that,
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Speaker 2: and yet the patient living in this body, which is
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Speaker 2: steered by the divine, may know more than anybody and
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Speaker 2: to really be able to just go within make the
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Speaker 2: right decision on some of these important things. And I think,
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Speaker 2: finally too, just knowing that there's more going on here
33:28
Speaker 2: than Okay, you showed up, you grew up, you had
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Speaker 2: a career, you had your kids, you'll be leaving. That
33:35
Speaker 2: just doesn't seem like enough. And so once you get it.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like enough, because it would not be enough.
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Speaker 2: We have this wonderful sense of, oh my gosh, there
33:48
Speaker 2: is something cosmic going on here, and that gives you
33:52
Speaker 2: the sense of youthful wonder and expectation. And people can
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Speaker 2: be old at thirty five when they are just in
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Speaker 2: this idea that oh, it's the same, all same, all
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Speaker 2: and I missed out on opportunities and nothing's ever going
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Speaker 2: to change, and nothing's ever going to be any better,
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Speaker 2: nothing really means anything. Oh my gosh, that person's one
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Speaker 2: hundred and ten and they've barely gotten started.
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Speaker 1: You had shared about having these encounters or learning of
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Speaker 1: seniors who had tremendous wisdom to share. In my late thirties,
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Speaker 1: I was attending a series of salons in Brooklyn on
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Speaker 1: Friday nights, gatherings of people, and the woman who was
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Speaker 1: holding these was well into her eighties at the time,
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Speaker 1: and she would bring in speakers on various spiritual topics,
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Speaker 1: and one evening, the speaker that she had I just
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Speaker 1: didn't resonate with what that speaker was sharing, and she
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Speaker 1: recognized this, and as the evening was breaking up, she
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Speaker 1: asked me to stay behind for a minute. And I did.
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Speaker 1: And when everyone had left, she had come over and
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Speaker 1: she had taken my hands and looked in my eyes
34:57
Speaker 1: like a mother and said, Victor, I want to share
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Speaker 1: something with you. She said, God does not require that
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Speaker 1: we be holy, but God would, But God would love
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Speaker 1: for us to be whole. She said that had changed
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Speaker 1: my life. It was the beginning of the reopening of
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Speaker 1: my spiritual path.
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Speaker 2: Wow, wow, absolutely absolutely.
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Speaker 1: What are the three doshas and and how do they
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Speaker 1: reflect in our lifestyle and our health?
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Speaker 2: Yes, well, now we're moving from yoga to ayr Veda,
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Speaker 2: and most people are a lot more familiar with yoga.
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Speaker 2: And there's a reason for that that the British when
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Speaker 2: they colonized India knew as colonizers that they didn't want
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Speaker 2: to mess with people's religions. Now, yoga is not a religion.
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Speaker 2: You can be a Yogi and be a Jew or
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Speaker 2: a Christian or whatever you are, or no affiliations. And
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Speaker 2: certainly you can be Hindu that grew up alongside yoga.
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Speaker 2: Yoga's kind of under that umbrella of the Sanatana dharma
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Speaker 2: that people would refer to as Hinduism. But yoga doesn't
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Speaker 2: have the religious aspects gods and goddesses and things like that.
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Speaker 2: Yoga's a practice, but the British still saw it as
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Speaker 2: a religious practice, so they left it alone along with
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Speaker 2: all the other religions and practices flourishing in India. But
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Speaker 2: as colonizers, they wanted to get rid of cultural practices
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Speaker 2: and bring in their own cultural practices, so they brought
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Speaker 2: in Western medicine and they outlawed ayer Veda. So while
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Speaker 2: yoga started being filtered into the English speaking world early
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Speaker 2: early on, the British went there in the sixteen hundreds,
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Speaker 2: so certainly by the eighteen hundreds there was a lot
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Speaker 2: of interest in yoga in the West, but ayre Veda
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Speaker 2: was still outlawed until nineteen forty seven. So we've heard
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Speaker 2: about it a lot more recently, and a lot of
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Speaker 2: people think of yoga as a physical practice. It's got
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Speaker 2: some kind of spirit something behind it. But yoga is
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Speaker 2: a spiritual practice. And the asinas, you know, the downward
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Speaker 2: facing dogs in the headstands and all that stuff, that's
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Speaker 2: one aspect, and actually a lot of people would say
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Speaker 2: it's a minor aspect of yoga as a whole. Now,
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Speaker 2: are Veda is definitely physical. Ireveda was developed in the
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Speaker 2: Vedic period by these wise people called ratis, and many
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Speaker 2: of them brought through spiritual wisdom the yoga masters, but
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Speaker 2: there were also some who were getting information about science
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Speaker 2: and physiology. And it's not science the way there's Western
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Speaker 2: science with ex experimentation and hypotheses and all that sort
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Speaker 2: of thing, but it was very close observation of nature
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Speaker 2: and human physiology, anatomy and functioning. So Areveda is a
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Speaker 2: health system recognized by the World Health Organization as a
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Speaker 2: viable health system. It has all the components that Western
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Speaker 2: medicine has. It's got psychiatry and gerontology and obstetrics and
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Speaker 2: you know all the rest, but it also has a
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Speaker 2: huge self care component. So that's what I talk about
38:41
Speaker 2: in age like a yogi And sorry for all that
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Speaker 2: long intro to get to your question. One of the
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Speaker 2: concepts in Areveda is the idea of doshes, and these
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Speaker 2: are three energies and all of nature can be identified
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Speaker 2: by one of these doses. So every season has a doosha,
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Speaker 2: a time of day, the periods of our lives, so
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Speaker 2: they're called vata, pitta, and cofa. In addition to the
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Speaker 2: way that they influence the seasons and the times of day.
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Speaker 2: Each of us has a dochic pattern that is imprinted
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Speaker 2: upon our DNA at the moment of conception, and everybody
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Speaker 2: has elements of all three. But we're not striving to
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Speaker 2: have thirty three and a third of each one of them.
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Speaker 2: What we're striving to do in our lives is we
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Speaker 2: take care of our health as we take care of
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Speaker 2: our physical being, is to remain as close to whatever
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Speaker 2: dochic set up we had at that moment of conception.
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Speaker 2: So I don't want to lose anybody. And I know
39:56
Speaker 2: this kind of gets a little bit harried. You can
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Speaker 2: take a qui so you can take a dosha quiz.
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Speaker 2: One that I like is it's an online store. I'm
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Speaker 2: not an affiliate. I have nothing to do with them,
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Speaker 2: but I just like their their dosha quiz. It's called
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Speaker 2: Banyon Botanicals dot com. They have a really good dosha
40:14
Speaker 2: quiz there and it asks you questions, and it asks
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Speaker 2: you a lot of questions that are kind of similar
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Speaker 2: more than once to really get an indication of what
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Speaker 2: your dochic makeup is. And the doches reflect the five
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Speaker 2: elements and so every person it is going to have
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Speaker 2: this way of being in the world based on their
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Speaker 2: primary dosha. So most people when they're young are even
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Speaker 2: though your dosha itself doesn't change. So say say, for example,
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Speaker 2: your sixty percent vata and thirty percent coafa and ten
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Speaker 2: percent pit that's you. That's who you are. But in
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Speaker 2: your childhood kafa is going to have more of an
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Speaker 2: influence that it will in the rest of your life.
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Speaker 2: Kaffa is fleshy and it's a slow move being docio,
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Speaker 2: so serious illness is uncommon except for kind of respiratory
41:23
Speaker 2: things which we know that kids get. So that's the
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Speaker 2: kafa period of life. Regardless of your personal dostrict makeup.
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Speaker 2: Everybody until they're about eighteen twenty has a lot of
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Speaker 2: kaufa influence, and then as we come into the midlife,
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of pita influence. And pita is executive functioning.
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Speaker 2: It's energy, it's building stuff, it's getting things done. So
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Speaker 2: when I think of a pita, they're a politician, they're
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Speaker 2: a public speaker, they're an executive, they're a firefighter. There's
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Speaker 2: somebody out there really making things happen. And if you
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Speaker 2: think of the time of life between like twenty and sixty.
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Speaker 2: A lot of that is called for because we're supposed
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Speaker 2: to get an education and get a career, and get
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Speaker 2: a home and start a family and take care of
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Speaker 2: our aging parents and do all of these kind of
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Speaker 2: executive sorts of things. But then when you come into
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Speaker 2: later life, and there's a little bit of disagreement about
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Speaker 2: just when this starts. Some people will say right around
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Speaker 2: fifty fifty five, But certainly nobody reaches sixty without noticing
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Speaker 2: more vata in their physical being. So vata is air
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Speaker 2: and ether, and it tends to be kind of lighty.
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Speaker 2: So if somebody can remember, maybe when they were younger,
42:53
Speaker 2: having a really round face, and then they're older and
42:57
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they don't have a round face anymore.
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Speaker 2: There's kind of this hollow in the cheeks. You know,
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Speaker 2: back in the sixties and seventies, we used to put
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Speaker 2: brown powder underneath the cheekbones to make them look hollow.
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Speaker 2: But you know, wait long enough, you don't need any
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Speaker 2: brown powder. They're gonna hollow out. And so are Veda
43:17
Speaker 2: would say that this is vata. You're becoming a little
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Speaker 2: bit lighter, a little bit more delicate of vata when
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Speaker 2: it's out of balance or when it's overdoing can cause
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Speaker 2: impaired digestion, It can cause joint aches and pains, It
43:36
Speaker 2: can cause coldness. I always wondered why do so many
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Speaker 2: tired people end up in Florida and Arizona well Vata
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Speaker 2: because the winters just feel colder than they used to.
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Speaker 2: So it's a wonderful, wonderful gift of are Veda for
43:55
Speaker 2: people in or approaching the third act to under stand
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Speaker 2: about the Vata influence at this time. So what it
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Speaker 2: means is that we need to take care of Vata.
44:08
Speaker 2: We need to pacify Vota. So the great ire Vedic
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Speaker 2: rule is that if you've got too much of something,
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Speaker 2: you want to add in its opposite. So if Vata
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Speaker 2: is a cold dosho, which it is, then you need
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Speaker 2: warm baths and warm drinks like almond milk, heated with
44:32
Speaker 2: wonderful spices like cinnamon and cardamom and nutmeg and poppy seeds. Oh,
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Speaker 2: I mean that Vota just loves that. Ginger tea is
44:41
Speaker 2: a specific for Vota. Licorice tea as long as you
44:44
Speaker 2: don't have high blood pressure. In that case, licorice is contraindicated.
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Speaker 2: But otherwise Vota just loves that kind of sweet flavor,
44:55
Speaker 2: and then we've got the lightiness is brought down by
45:03
Speaker 2: having a regular schedule. And it's really good for everybody
45:06
Speaker 2: to have a regular schedule, but Vata people or people
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Speaker 2: in this Vata time of life, really really need to
45:14
Speaker 2: go to bed at just about the same time, get
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Speaker 2: up at just about the same time, eat meals on
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Speaker 2: a schedule. And if you travel, you want to really
45:24
Speaker 2: be sweet to yourself about giving yourself enough time to
45:28
Speaker 2: get over jet lag, because travel tends to be upsetting
45:31
Speaker 2: to Vata. No reason not to do it, you know,
45:34
Speaker 2: one of the greatest experiences of later life or these
45:37
Speaker 2: magnificent trips that so many people take. But you also
45:41
Speaker 2: want to just know you're going to need the extra
45:44
Speaker 2: couple of days to get back to normal. So yeah,
45:50
Speaker 2: the doshes are a huge, huge subject. But I think
45:54
Speaker 2: just knowing about Vata in later life is a wonderful,
45:58
Speaker 2: wonderful secret.
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Speaker 1: My guest is Victoria Moran. Her book age like a Yogi,
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Speaker 1: Is back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week Victoria Moran,
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Speaker 1: her new book Age Like a Yogi, A Heavenly Path
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Speaker 1: to a dazzling third Act. In Age Like a Yogi,
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Speaker 1: you say that our time on earth is a rehearsal
46:57
Speaker 1: for enlightenment. What does that mean?
47:00
Speaker 2: I think I call it an audition for enlightenment. But
47:03
Speaker 2: rehearsal is probably better. I think that, And certainly, according
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Speaker 2: to the Yogi teachings, we are here to find the truth,
47:16
Speaker 2: to learn who we really are, to remember who we
47:19
Speaker 2: really are. And even in Iurvateic medicine, interestingly enough, they
47:24
Speaker 2: say the root of all illness is poor digestion. But
47:27
Speaker 2: then when you talk further, they say, well, really, the
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Speaker 2: root of all illness is that we've forgotten who we are,
47:35
Speaker 2: so in auditioning for enlightenment. We're here, we're learning, we're healing,
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Speaker 2: we're helping, we're doing what we do, and even before
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Speaker 2: we come to know that there is a purpose to it,
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Speaker 2: this coming to know our inner self. And in yoga
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Speaker 2: that's the capital s self that you can also call
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Speaker 2: your divine self, your god self. In coming to know
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Speaker 2: that we've done it. And in yoga they have an
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Speaker 2: interesting concept of the Jivon Mukti, and I do want
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Speaker 2: to do a shout out to Sharon Gannon, who wrote
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Speaker 2: the foreword for Age Like a Yogi. She's the co
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Speaker 2: founder of Jiva Mukti yoga named for that. And a
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Speaker 2: lot of people believe that you don't get your full
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Speaker 2: inner piece, you don't get to see God until after
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Speaker 2: you die. But in yoga there's a concept of a
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Speaker 2: Jivon Mukti, and that is an enlightened being who is
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Speaker 2: still on earth, walking around, enlightened, doing life, doing their job,
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Speaker 2: having their family, whatever it is, but fully aware. And
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Speaker 2: that's cool. Sometimes I'm in the subway and think, I
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Speaker 2: wonder if there's a jeevan Mukti on this car.
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Speaker 1: I think there are many. Actually, if you even know
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Speaker 1: what you're looking for, you offer some wonderful Vega recipes
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Speaker 1: in age like a Yogi. Do you have a favorite
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Speaker 1: that you would share with us?
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Speaker 2: Well, the recipes, they are just a couple in the book,
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Speaker 2: and then there's a PDF, and I'll give your listeners
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Speaker 2: a way to get that PDF, so you can have
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Speaker 2: a whole collection of wonderful recipes. But the one I
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Speaker 2: want to share because I have it for breakfast almost
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Speaker 2: every morning, is it's called an Indian chocolate shake. And
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Speaker 2: this is a way for somebody like me, little girl
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Speaker 2: grown up there in the Midwest, always had a weight problem.
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Speaker 2: The idea that I could grow up and be in
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Speaker 2: my third act and get to have a chocolate shake
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Speaker 2: most mornings for breakfast is just more than I could
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Speaker 2: have ever dreamed of. So what makes this an Iurvedic
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Speaker 2: chocolate shake, and it does come from a Taya Lutsker
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Speaker 2: in her recipe book Vegan Arevedic Cookbook, is the spices.
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Speaker 2: So we know in Western medicine that spices are amazing.
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Speaker 2: The antioxidants, the phytochemicals are just so incredibly healing, and
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Speaker 2: Ierveda has been saying that for four thousand years. So
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Speaker 2: to make this Aravedic chocolate shake you can use any
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Speaker 2: kind of base you want. I use soy milk, you
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Speaker 2: could use whatever works, even water, a couple of dates
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Speaker 2: to make it a little bit sweet, some cacaal powder
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Speaker 2: or cocoa powder, and bananas, and being vata, I don't
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Speaker 2: want to do frozen bananas because they made me too cold,
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Speaker 2: so I just used room temperature bananas. But somebody who
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Speaker 2: really likes cold smoothies, do one or two bananas, and
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Speaker 2: they can be fresh or frozen. Just be sure that
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Speaker 2: they're ripe. And then here's where the magic comes in.
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Speaker 2: We're going to add spices, and you're safe starting with
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Speaker 2: a quarter teaspoon of the really pungent ones like clove
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Speaker 2: and allspice, and you can go up to more like
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Speaker 2: a half teaspoon of cinnamon and nutmeg and some of these,
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Speaker 2: you know, kind of sweeter, milder spices. It's also recommended
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Speaker 2: that you put in some ginger, a little bit of
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Speaker 2: fresh ginger, or like a quarter third of a teaspoon
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Speaker 2: of powdered ginger, because that's very balancing, it's great for digestion,
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Speaker 2: it's really really good for vata, and just whiz it
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Speaker 2: up in the blender and it's wonderful. It's like getting
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Speaker 2: to have breakfast at a soda fountain. And one of
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Speaker 2: the cool things about it is even though it can
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Speaker 2: be like room temperature, and I'll have it in the morning,
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Speaker 2: room temperature, and I'll have some ginger tea or some
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Speaker 2: liquorice tea with it, and then if it's cold out,
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Speaker 2: I go outside and I feel really warm because those
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Speaker 2: spices have warmed me up. So that one's fun, wonderful.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that.
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Speaker 2: Oh and shall I give the if people want the
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Speaker 2: PDF which has the recipes which giving you a little
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Speaker 2: bit of insider information. The recipes were going to be
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Speaker 2: in the book, but the book got too long, so
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Speaker 2: the recipes are now not in the book. But they're
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Speaker 2: great recipes. So if you just send an email to
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Speaker 2: assist a ssist at Victoriamoran dot com and just put
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Speaker 2: a recipe PDF in the subject line, you'll get.
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Speaker 1: That wonderful thank you for their gender essler that's wonderful,
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Speaker 1: thank you. What would you like your readers to take
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Speaker 1: away from age? Like a yogi?
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Speaker 2: I would like them to take away hope and promise
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Speaker 2: and sometimes life can get really really high, it can
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Speaker 2: get really hard at any phase. But I think in
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Speaker 2: the later phases there are a lot of challenges that
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Speaker 2: are unique to this time. I remember in the story
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Speaker 2: of the Buddha that he was this privileged young man
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Speaker 2: who had never seen the outside world outside the palace,
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Speaker 2: and he, I think, bribed a driver to take him out,
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Speaker 2: and he was shocked to see suffering and what is
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Speaker 2: specifically described. He saw poverty, sickness, death, and old age.
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Speaker 2: And I remember when I heard that, Wait a minute,
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Speaker 2: I can get at why poverty, sickness, and death are
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Speaker 2: things you don't want to get too close to. But
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Speaker 2: old age, Why does everybody want a long life if
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Speaker 2: old age is so terrible? And I think it kind
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Speaker 2: of took getting here to come to see that it is.
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Speaker 2: It's a different phase, a different phase of life, and
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Speaker 2: it's new, and it can be concerning, and you don't
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Speaker 2: know what you're going to get. And so old age
54:05
Speaker 2: is very different for different people. Some people are very
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Speaker 2: healthy into their nineties, healthy centenarians. Other people are not.
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Speaker 2: And one thing that I definitely would never want to
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Speaker 2: promote is this health shaming of oh, well, what did
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Speaker 2: they do wrong? You know, this is earth. Things happen,
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Speaker 2: and so even though we can do wonderful things to
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Speaker 2: help hedge our bets to have better health and longer
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Speaker 2: life and disease prevention. Ultimately, we're not in charge of
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Speaker 2: the things that happened to us. So to answer your question,
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Speaker 2: what I want people to take away from the book
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Speaker 2: are some wonderful tips and hints and hacks for living
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Speaker 2: better and feeling better. But underneath that this deep understand
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Speaker 2: that each and every one of us is important, is
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Speaker 2: here for a purpose for as long as we're here,
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Speaker 2: and is in fact that divine light that's us. Who
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Speaker 2: are you? You're Victor, I'm Victoria. Yeah, okay, that's true
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Speaker 2: for the moment. There'll be a time when there won't
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Speaker 2: be a Victor or a Victoria. But that light that
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Speaker 2: we are is eternal and perfect. It's with us now
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Speaker 2: and it's us forever. So if people can just get
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Speaker 2: a whiff or a glimmer of that, then I'll be
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Speaker 2: real happy they read my book.
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Speaker 1: The Wisdom of Victoria Moran her book age You like
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Speaker 1: a Yogi, a heavenly path to a dazzling third act.
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Speaker 1: Victoria one more time, Please share with our listeners where
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Speaker 1: they can get your books and find out more about you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. The book is at your favorite
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Speaker 2: bookstore online or in person, and the website is Victoria
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Speaker 2: Moran m O r a n dot com. Thanks so much, Victoria.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us today and sharing
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Speaker 1: your experience, your wisdom, and your wonderful sense of humor too.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Victor, it was a pleasure.
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Speaker 1: And thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm
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Speaker 1: Victor the Voice Furman. Have a wonderful week.