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Tommy Taffy · INSPIRE STORY

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Creepcast.
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  Speaker 2: Today, we are doing a listener submission. I've been seeing
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  this pap up a lot. It's called Tommy Taffy. And
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  here's the funny thing about that, We've never read this
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  one before.
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard of it.
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  Speaker 2: I had to go through about three eighteen and up
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  prompts to even see text for this story. So I
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  just want to say, you know, that's your warning. I
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  guess I don't know what I was just to say.
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  Speaker 3: I told you I've never heard this story before. I
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  could be lying, and the number of eighteen plus warnings
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  would indicate something I would lie about, So keep that
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  in mind as we get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Also, Hi, everyone, all I see here is it's just
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  our slash no sleep has just says his name was
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  Tommy Taffy. I don't even want to do any little preamble.
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  I just kind of want to dive in.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea what it says.
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  Speaker 3: At the beginning, there's a link to another story that
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  I when I click on it also gives me an
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  eighteen up warning, So it says some of you may
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  read my son's account. So maybe the son's account is
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  like the same story from their perspective or something I
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  don't know. I also will say that the audience has
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  been batting zero for zero so far they've all sucked,
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  So we'll see if you all keep up that. I
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  also want to mention that in the last episode, upon
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  watching the upload, a lot of my impeccable Jeff Goldblum
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  impression was cut from the from the final level, and
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  I equate that to the burning of the Library of Alexandria.
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  I think that is perfect art that should not be
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  tampered with. So this is your warning. I am going
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  to insert it into any Lokay, I can't for this
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  story and make it impossible for the editor to catch
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  all of them. Okay, because I'm mad and continue to
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  be mad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I people will talk of the the deletion of
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  the Jeff gold Bloom impression, much like Greeks wearing uh
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  like robes talked about the burning of Alexandria.
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  Speaker 1: It'll have that infamy.
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  Speaker 3: I think there were literally like twenty minutes of me
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  it was talking just just be going could be a
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  dead shot. And my son.
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  Speaker 2: Benjamin Well, I say, without further ado, let's hop into his.
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  Speaker 1: Name was Tommy Taffy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just glad that you can't do that. Clever pot
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  points this time I was, I wanted to punch them monitor.
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  Speaker 1: So clever bot was It was the low point for sure.
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  Speaker 3: That whole story just became you and I like reading lines,
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  and then you like making me upset with your line reading.
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  I felt violent there for a while.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was pulling teeth.
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  Speaker 4: It was pulling teeth, That's what it was.
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  Speaker 2: And I and here's the thing, a lot of people,
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  like I said, have suggested this story. It's been probably
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  out of the last couple let's say, the last couple
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  of weeks.
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  Speaker 4: It's been.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen it more so than others.
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  Speaker 2: We've we've we have a list of stuff like stolen
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  tongues and my wife is peeking around me from corners.
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  But I do think Tommy Taffy has been more requested
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  so far. And I just want to say that people's
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  nostalgia do a crazy, crazy thing with uh, you know,
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  stories they like, So don't take these, you know, these
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  bad stories personally.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Also, these are all random user like internet users, a
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  lot of them are not professional writers or anything.
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  Speaker 1: And we understand that we're just here to have fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I just wanted to say once again before we
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  get into this, I had to click through four active
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  firewalls verify my my age seven different times.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell happens in the story,
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  but I.
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  Speaker 2: Feel like I feel like some of the bad's gonna happen.
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  So that's your warning as well. I know people want
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  us to put some kind of warnings up as well.
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  That that's the only warning I can give other than that,
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  I have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna this is gonna hurt some word.
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  Our audience either recommended it because it's bad and they
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  know it'll be bad, or it has some kind of
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  sexual exploitation, which there they can't get enough of apparently.
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  Speaker 2: So I all I know is my faith in our
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  audience is beginning to dwindle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, beginning to it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's they're completely depleted. Yeah, they're on a razor's.
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  Speaker 1: Edge with me right now. All right? It is that
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  sin Okay, let's I say, let's dive.
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  Speaker 3: In, let's get into it. So oh and also before
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  we get into it, everyone who is liking us and
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  watching us on audio platforms please continue to do so.
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  Speaker 1: It helps I think.
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  Speaker 3: So we have a bunch of people who show up
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  now in the comments who are like, who argue people?
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  Why is this am I recommended? So I think that's
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  what's causing it. So keep it up, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: If you're driving to work, feel free to throw this
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  up on Spotify, Apple Podcast, all that kind of stuff.
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  It really does go a long way. And also wanted
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  to throw this in before we get too deep into
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  all this and before I forget within the next coming weeks,
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  we should have some our first merch drop, so be
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  on the lookout for that. I'm hoping within the next
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  episode or so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you all enjoyed the hat I was wearing
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  last time and forgot to mention that I was wearing
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  the hat that was promo, so I just headed on
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  and never said anything about it. That hat might potentially
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  be part of it, so stay tuned for that. Yes,
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  all right, let's get into it. His name, just do
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  it was Tommy Taffy. Oh okay, So after beginning to
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  read his name was Tommy Taffy, it turns out that
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  that is a prequel, which you all did not tell
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  us about, and it's entirely your fault. So we're going
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  to read the original story, and if it's not stupid,
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  we will then read his name was Tommy Taffy. You
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  guys would give us a sequel first, to be like, oh,
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  this is great, this is awesome. So now forget that
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  his name was Tommy Taffy. In a sudden change on
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  the field, we're moving into the third parent.
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  Speaker 1: The third parent aka it's also known as the Smiling
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  Man is what I'm seeing here as well.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, parably, they made a movie about this too, I
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  and dB twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: It just came out this year.
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  Speaker 3: What did you guys recommend us to. Okay, we're gonna
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  read the third parent. We're gonna read the third parent. Well,
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  fuck it, I don't even know anymore. Third parent, third parent,
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  third pa. Okay, here we go, third parent. This is
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  your It's already off to a traumatic start, and it's
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  the audience is fault this time. I can't be blamed
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  for it. Okay, yes, all right. My name is Matt,
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  and my childhood wasn't normal, not by any stretch of
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  the word. Something happened to my family that is almost
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  impossible to understand. But I'm gonna try my best to
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  explain those five years five years of my life I
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  spent in tearror. Five years we all lived in fear.
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  Years we'll never get back. My father, Spence, wasn't a
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  very strong man, both physically and mentally. He was the
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  type of dad who often let our mother speak for
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  both of them. Now. He wasn't a complete pushover, but
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  he often was content to just go with the flow
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  rather than alter it. He worked hard and dedicated his
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  free time to us as family. He made sure our
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  needs were taken care of. His oft assurances the unseen
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  foundation of our family. My mother, Megan, was the head
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  of our house. She was outspoken, independent, and extremely loyal
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  to all of us. She loved my father's quiet ways,
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  and even from a young age, I could see the
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  chemistry flowing strong between them. My little sister, Stephanie, was
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  a year younger than I. She looked up to me,
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  and my father always told me it was my responsibility
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  to look after her. We got along as best we could,
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  and even though I gave her all kinds of brotherly hardship,
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  I did love her. We lived in a suburban, middle
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  class community, a complete stock photo of the American dream.
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  My father worked a respectable nine to five job, while
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  my mother taught yoga classes out of the house. It
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  was a neat life, organized and structured. Everything was discussed, considered,
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  and acted upon as a family. It was a good
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  home to grow up in. But that was before he
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  showed up. That was before the third parent.
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  Speaker 4: Ooh, kind of like that little intro.
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  Speaker 3: Huh, yeah, that feels good. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Who if this whole story is just the parents are
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  in a cuck relationship?
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  Speaker 3: I do all the eighteen up warnings are kind of
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  scary enough.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a little afraid.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of different elements here, right, there's a
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  lot of red flags. Let me just say that one
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  my little sister, Sephanie, was a year younger than I.
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  You're setting up these different characters you never know, right,
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  you even have the mom. Well there's also thing too.
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  Did you ever have a friend whose parents ran any
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  kind of business out of their house?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my my parents said that. My dad.
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  Speaker 2: I had a buddy whose mom did hairdressing inever basement.
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  It was like a nice studio area, and there was
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  like a staircase that went down from the outside of
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  the house down to the basement, so you didn't have
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  to actually go through their home, is.
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  Speaker 1: What I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But what was crazy was one of the sons of
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  that person's mom broke into their house one night and
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  like actually rummaged to the house while everyone was sleeping.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm wondering.
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  Speaker 2: It's just that, like just the narrator saying, oh my
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  mom ran a yoga class, I was like, oh shit,
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  Like it just made me immediately yeah, yeah, yeah, so
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  I don't know that that send that sent a little
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  shiver up my spine. And also just the line too
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  that was before the third parent. It is just that
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  that line goes pretty hard.
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  Speaker 3: The third parents an ominous enough like title, you know
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  that it kind of gives you a direction of like,
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  you know, a kid adult doesn't really understand it. But yeah,
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  that's a good it's kind of like the uh, you know,
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  the thing, the unknown kind of concept. Oh like yeah,
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  that's a good intro. I think it is a little yeah,
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  it's a little you know, methodical in being like, well,
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  this is my dad, this is my mom, this is
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  my sister. But I think that's fine. You know.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest thing is I just want to say I'm
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  a little nervous, is all I gotta say.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous.
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  Speaker 2: The amount of times I had to verify my age
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  to want to read this story as major nervous.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I am nervous.
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  Speaker 3: I am afraid.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we're this is like this is an older one.
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  It's July nineteen eighty nine, is the next text heading.
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  Speaker 3: July nineteen eighty nine. I was sitting at the dinner
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  table waiting for my father to finish cooking. It was
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  his turn tonight, and my stomach roared for his Rosemary chicken.
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  My sister, Stephanie, lay on her stomach in the living
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  room coloring. Her golden blond hair fell across her shoulders
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  and waves, and she looked up at me, smiling. She
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  extended what she had been working on, and I nodded,
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  completely unimpressed.
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  Speaker 2: She was a terrible that's such a brother thing though,
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  yeah exactly. Stephanie was always terrible out drawling bears, but
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  she always insisted on doing so.
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  Speaker 3: She sniffed at me and continued her sketch.
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  Speaker 2: What like you know, kids like oh like a scoff okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  And I didn't know if she was like smelling him.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what the family, dude, everything's.
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  Speaker 3: Normal so far? Ye, yeah, yeah, so far. My mother
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  walked in the kitchen, pulling her hair back from her
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  freshly showered face. Everyone gone, my father asked from the stove.
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  My mother nodded, yes, Spence, the house is ours again.
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  It's so much better teaching yoga in the basement, so
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  much cooler. I'm glad we finished the basement over the winter.
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  My clients are relieved as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's a scorcher out there today, dude, it's another basement thing.
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  Speaker 1: What did I say? Creepy? Don't like that? Mom? Can
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  you sit down so we can eat?
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  Speaker 3: I begged for my spot at the table. My mother
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  turned to me and.
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  Speaker 2: Laughed, Matt hungry is six year old this side of
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  the Mississippi.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you ask your dad to hurry up? He's
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  the one cooking.
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  Speaker 3: I will say, uh, I'm not saying this is a hater.
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  I've not activated hater mode. I like it so far.
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  But the dialogue is kind of funny, of like, wow,
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  I sure am glad we installed that baseman. Sure is
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  hot outside, Oh, my little six year old son, why
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  don't you have to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: No by six year old boy, the hungriest little boy
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  this side of the Mississippi. Why don't you frolic over
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  to all?
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  Speaker 3: Father?
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  Speaker 1: Well, he's one who's cooking the bulk chops.
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  Speaker 3: It's like how an alien thinks that like normal, like
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  if family interactions go you know, yeah, no no hate,
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  no hate, it's all, it's all. It's all well and good.
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  This is perfectly fine, but it is it just that
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  just made me laugh? Hungry is six year old?
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  Speaker 4: This sun.
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  Speaker 3: I placed my forehead on the table's lip.
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  Speaker 1: Dad, I'm going to die.
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  Speaker 3: Step They looked up from her coloring book.
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  Speaker 1: Mac, don't be crazy, you're crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I might not looking up, she said, sticking her tongue
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  out at me. All right, all right, my father said,
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  turning from the stove. In his hands, he held a
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  steaming platter of chicken.
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  Speaker 1: Comes it down, stuff.
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  Speaker 3: The food's ready, ordered my sister, the side of the
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  seasoned meat, causing me to salivate. I thought that was
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  the dad's line for a second. Yeah, yeah, you have
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  to leave it.
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  Speaker 2: The boy being like, come set down, step, six year
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  old boy, food ready.
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  Speaker 3: The chicken activated puberty.
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  Speaker 1: I just gained another ball.
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  Speaker 3: That's the fourth one. This week.
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  Speaker 1: That's testicular torsion if I've ever seen it.
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  Speaker 3: She pulled herself from the floor, my mother taking a
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  place beside me. We all frowz. Is someone knocked on
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  the front door? My mother and father exchanged puzzled looks.
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  My dad placed the food down on the table in
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  total saw the hold on a minute, groaning. I watched
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  him walk to the front door. He peeked through the keyhole,
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  and I saw him visibly tense, his whole body cementing
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  like a statue.
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  Speaker 1: He peeked through the keyhole of the door.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't even catch that. That is kind of I.
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  Speaker 2: Wonder if they just mean like the little hole in
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  the middle of the door, but the key hole makes
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  it seem like it's.
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  Speaker 3: It's literally the key hole. Yeah, like it's sixteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Spence, who is it?
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  Speaker 3: My mother asked. My father slowly turned back around to us,
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  all blood draining from his face. His eyes were wide,
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  and I saw fear dilate his pupils. He licked his lips,
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  shot Stephanie and I look Spence. My mom pressed her
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  face contorting with concern.
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  Speaker 4: No, this can't happen, not again, I.
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  Speaker 3: Heard him whisper, staring off into the middle distance. The
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  door shook as another series of knocks echoed through the house.
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  My mom stood, her voice cracking with contagious fear.
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  Speaker 1: Spence, who is it? What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, my father mumbled, clutching his stomach, his
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  face a pale sheet. I have to let him in
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  before any of us could say anything else. My dad
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  turned and opened the door. Dying sunlight blinded me, and
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  I squinted to see who our unannounced visitor was.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Tommy Taffy. It's good to see you again, Spence.
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  Speaker 3: I watched as my father slowly backed away from the
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  open door. A man entered our house and shut the
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  door behind him. My young mind tried to make sense
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  of what I was seeing, but even at that young age,
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  I knew something wasn't right with this unexpected guest. He
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  was about six feet and had a shock of golden
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  hair cut tight along his scalp. He wore khaki shorts
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  and a white T shirt that said HI in red
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  cartoon fought.
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  Speaker 1: Picturing like a youth pasture or something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: He's like a guy wearing khakis. I imagine it didn't
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  say this, but khakis imagining barking stocks with tube socks on,
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  and he has like he has like blonde hair pulled
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  back super tight, probably into a ponytail. I also pictured
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  him wearing like the sung that's like the glasses that
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  also turn into sunglasses when you go outside.
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  Speaker 3: That that wasn't what caught my eye. It was his skin.
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  It was completely devoid of pores, a perfectly smooth, creamy
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  texture that looked almost like soft plastic. His face was
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  a pool of gentle pink, his mouth a cheerful cut
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  along his cheeks, revealing a white strip of teeth, but
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  they weren't teeth, it was just a smooth edgeless row,
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  like like he had a mouthguard on. His nose was
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  just a slight rise out of his face like a doll,
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  void of noseril rolls. And his eyes, his eyes were
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  twin puddles of sparkling blue shining out at us from
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  his flawless, eerie face. They were wide, like he was
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  in a constant state of surprise, and they shifted around
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  the room to look at us in quick jar in motion.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. How do you feel about that description?
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  Speaker 3: So devoid of poor's like it's uncharacteristically smooth.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I'm almost taking like an action figure.
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  Speaker 3: That is what's kind of I think because the way
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  he said that he had like a slicked back golden
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  hair reminds me of like the white action figures just
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  were like painted blonde on the top of their head.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like he's like a mannequin almost.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, almost like a dummy or like some kind of
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  like ventriloquist puppet or something.
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  Speaker 3: It's like just kind of weird, you know, those like
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  videos you'll see of like I think he made a
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  video about it, but like those extreme plastic surgery cases
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  of people who like remove any semblance of like humanity,
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  your like lived experience from their body kind of reminds
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  me of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, something very uncanny, unnatural. Especially it's like you're able
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  to see it almost immediately. The deal too about it
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  kind of makes you think of I can't remem if
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  it's Robin Williams, who's this movie called Bisentennial Man.
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  Speaker 4: But Williams plays like.
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  Speaker 2: A robot and in that movie, the robot version of
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  Robin Williams is very smooth. It just looks like a
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  like a weird toy it's odd. It's made me think
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  of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I see, it does kind of remind me
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  of that.
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  Speaker 2: Also, how weird is that he's like, not again, we
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  have to let him in, which obviously we're getting ready
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  to dive into as well.
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  Speaker 1: But that would freak me out.
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  Speaker 2: If my dad said that and then a Funko pop
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  man walked in, that would fuck me up.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. If your dad's like, I'm so sorry, but I
• 18:49
  have to.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Let a funko box comes to the door. Yeah, no, thanks, daddy.
• 18:54
  I thought you said you were done collecting funko pops.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I was. I thought I was.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: His smile widened and he raised a flawless hand to
• 19:05
  us at the table.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Tommy Taffy. It's good to meet you.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I noticed he didn't have any fingernails or skinned effects,
• 19:14
  no wrinkles or bruises, nothing. It was like he was
• 19:17
  a living, talking, human sized doll. Okay, well we beat
• 19:20
  the story to that punch. We were smarter.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was a living, talking, human sized funko pop.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: His head was insanely large, larger than his.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Very large His eyes were as black as space.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Man, how scary would that be? Like a human Who's
• 19:39
  that would be horrifying, Like him coming down the hallway
• 19:43
  screaming at you.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: It's like breaking the walls because his heads keep hitting
• 19:47
  each side of the hallway.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Mom, Mom, Yeah. Wait.
• 19:53
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  Speaker 3: My mother croaked recognition blew me in her eyes.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: It's going to be okay, Megan, Let's just be polite
• 21:19
  to a new guest. Okay.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: The man Tommy cocked his head towards my father. My
• 21:28
  dad took a step back, raising his hands.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I mean our new friend.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: The frozen smile never left Tommy's molded face. There was
• 21:41
  no humor in a strange laugh. It sounded like he
• 21:44
  was clearing his throat or imitating a really bad chuckle.
• 21:48
  It was too pronounced, each syllable sounding too deliberate. My
• 21:52
  father forced a smile onto his face. I meant he
• 21:57
  looked desperately at my mother, who offered him no hellp
• 22:00
  Her body frozen an absolute fear.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I meant meet your new parent kids.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Man, this is what the fun is. Freaky, Oh gosh,
• 22:09
  kind of fucking me up. Actually should say, dad, you're
• 22:12
  a coward.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Imagine at that age, ruy.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a six year old will hold on Isaiah, not
• 22:19
  only a six year old, but the but the hungry
• 22:21
  six year old this time in miss and you're like, oh,
• 22:24
  now I have a new daddy who's hopefully he cooks
• 22:27
  me better fucking chicken than this goon.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Man it be it'd be funny if like it goes
• 22:30
  to the kid to speak and he's like, I just
• 22:32
  finished my chicken, Like he's just eating this.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Whole time, But I finished my plate and I was
• 22:37
  already putting it in the same.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Now I recognize.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Now, just imagining the main character, he's just like this
• 22:48
  morbidly obese child.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I'm hungry.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Stephanie, who was standing by our mother, frowned.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: He's not our dad, you are. Why does he look
• 22:58
  so funny, Stephanie?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: My mother hiss gripping my sister's shoulder. Tommy laughed and
• 23:04
  walked forward to crouch in front of Stephanie.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: It's not nice to make fun of people who look different.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Is it. My sister looked at her feet, blushing. Tommy
• 23:14
  tasseled her hair.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: It's okay, o, kiddo, We're going to get along.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Jest.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Fine, I'm gonna help your parents raise you. It's a
• 23:23
  big job being a mommy and a daddy. Sometimes mommy
• 23:26
  and daddy's need help.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I immediately, I immediately don't like this.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Right now.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: No, no, I am actually unsettled, and I'm like the
• 23:38
  the War, the giant red flags before we start reading it,
• 23:42
  of being like turned back.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: You know, say literally like five times it was like
• 23:48
  are you eighteen? Not safe for work? Are you an adult?
• 23:52
  Please find something else to read.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: You know what's fucked up is even when I was
• 23:57
  like thinking about how we're joking about this, I still
• 23:59
  pictured the main kid just like he's like grabbing his
• 24:01
  mom's plate now and he's eating that chicken.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Too, like the Tasmanian devil, like.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: A tiny tornado going around the kitchen.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Tommy turned to my parents that ever present plastic smile
• 24:17
  stretching his face.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I helped their mommy and daddy's raise them. Isn't that
• 24:22
  Rice Spence? Meghan? Oh?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Oh god?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Immediately right, I know it's with his visuals. But now
• 24:39
  you're like, tom he's like Toy's like eighty five years old.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Can we reach out the killer something scared?
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, ship, this is gonna get bad, though I
• 24:54
  helped their mommy and daddy's raise them.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Megan pulled Stephanie away as my father and nervously, that's drake, kids,
• 25:03
  he did. Tommy smiled and turned to me. I was
• 25:07
  still sitting at the table, taking the odd scene in.
• 25:10
  I didn't understand what was happening, didn't know who this
• 25:13
  weird looking man was or what he wanted. What he
• 25:16
  was saying didn't make sense, but my parents seemed to
• 25:19
  know him, so I kept my speculations to myself. Oh
• 25:23
  that's terrible. The kids like, well, mom and dad trust him,
• 25:26
  so you know, well.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how fucking real is that?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: For a kid?
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't gosh.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And you must be.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Mad, Tommy said, walking over to me. I didn't look
• 25:40
  at him, training my eyes to stare at my empty plate.
• 25:43
  I suddenly wasn't hungry anymore. I could feel the strange
• 25:46
  man beside me, his presence filling my head. I licked
• 25:49
  my lips and felt my heart begin to race. I
• 25:52
  didn't like this intruder. Something about him felt dangerous. Tommy
• 25:56
  walked behind me, chuckling, his hand sliding over my slender
• 25:59
  sh shoulders.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: No, it looks like we have a shy one. That's okay,
• 26:06
  I'll help him with that, honor. I don't like it either.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: He said to my parents. His fingers dug into my skin,
• 26:15
  and I winced, but kept my mouth shut. Don't touch him,
• 26:19
  my mother hissed, eyes going wide. Tommy looked up at her,
• 26:23
  mouth stretched. My dad outstretched his hand alarmed.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Don't be so rude, Megan.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Tommy continued to stare at my mother, who nervously lowered
• 26:34
  her eyes.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Are you staying for dinner?
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Stephanie suddenly asked, breaking the tent silence. The eerie doll
• 26:42
  man let go of my shoulders, one of his hands
• 26:44
  sliding across my cheek and into my hair.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Oh God, oh God, Oh yes, I'll be here for
• 26:54
  quite a while.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Did you all.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Tell us crossed my cheek and into my hair?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: My god?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Is this out about? Just like I say, child predator?
• 27:06
  I think, why would you all give us this? If
• 27:10
  that's what I know?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: No, God, damn it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: We were doing good. We went like five episodes with
• 27:16
  no child predators. It was doing good.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: They're all sons of bitches.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety nine, Okay, we did three. We did three
• 27:25
  without it happening. That was pretty basically two months. Basically
• 27:28
  two months. Yeah, we were doing great because it was
• 27:30
  pinpal and then we had three, and then it was
• 27:34
  nineteen ninety nine, and now we have three and now
• 27:37
  it's it's back.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: I don't like that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I don't like this.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Isaiah, with that last sentence of one
• 27:43
  of his hands slanting across my cheek into my hair, Yeah,
• 27:45
  that's disgusting.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Did the implication physically.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: But I'm just gonna pray that maybe and I know
• 27:53
  this just fucked up to say, but maybe he just
• 27:54
  like breaks the kid's legs or something.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pray he just breaks the play, just smash
• 28:06
  the kid's fingers and be done with it. Get just
• 28:09
  let's let's have it be one of those stories. Please.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: That is an all time creep cast quote. That's really good.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Also, I just want to say too, before we keep going,
• 28:17
  I just want to say once again, you all have
• 28:19
  been warned you cannot be mad at us with whatever
• 28:21
  has happened, Okay, whatever happens from here on out, I
• 28:24
  don't we don't know, but I would just assume, abandon
• 28:27
  all hope.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Ye who intery? Here is what I would say.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Okay. And that was how Tommy Taffy entered our lives.
• 28:34
  At six years old, I didn't know any better than
• 28:36
  to seriously question what was happening. Even though my parents
• 28:40
  acted unsettled at his arrival, their constant assurances that he
• 28:44
  was a friend pushed away any lingering doubt I had.
• 28:47
  As the days turned into weeks, I began to grow
• 28:49
  accustomed to Tommy's presence in our house. My initial fear
• 28:53
  slowly receded to weary caution. I soon learned that Tommy
• 28:57
  didn't like company. Whatever mind mother had her yoga classes,
• 29:01
  Tommy would pull her off into a corner and whisper
• 29:03
  something to her. I would watch all this with silent eyes.
• 29:07
  I would see my mother's face grow pale, and she
• 29:09
  would nod, whispering back unknown assurances. Then Tommy would turn
• 29:14
  but every present, smile plastered on his face, and walk
• 29:17
  upstairs until the class was over. My parents told Stephanie
• 29:21
  and I that we weren't to talk about Tommy to
• 29:23
  our friends outside of the house. Tommy wasn't a part
• 29:26
  of our lives. I don't know why both my sister
• 29:30
  and I obeyed.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, not to keep stopping.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: But do you think this is like reading as the
• 29:36
  way that people I guess hold like traumatic experiences, right.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's immediately what I thought of.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it seems just one of those
• 29:45
  things where it's like, don't tell anybody, it's none of
• 29:47
  your business.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And now it's just one of those things that don't
• 29:50
  mention it outside of the house. Now yeah, yeah, just
• 29:54
  like just a disgusting thing like that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: It immediately makes me sad and I hate everyone who
• 30:00
  uh suggested such things.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: So we're not even into the actual story really yet
• 30:04
  besides the intro, and I'm like disgusted my stomach.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty upset already. So thanks everyone. I appreciate this.
• 30:10
  I this is I should know better than to listen
• 30:13
  to you people.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to anymore. It's I'm not going to anymore.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: We could be.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Reading psychoasts, we could be reading Psychosis or slender Man
• 30:22
  or something goofy, but no, here we are.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, here we are.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, another thing I noticed was that Tommy never ate.
• 30:30
  He would sit at the table with us, but he
• 30:31
  never partook in the meal. Stephanie asked him once if
• 30:34
  he was ever hungry, and Tommy just smiled at her
• 30:36
  silently and stroked her head. Oh GOSHU damn dude. Oh
• 30:43
  that image, that image of a smiling plastic man being
• 30:46
  asked a question and just staring at her like these
• 30:48
  giant eyes and just reaching over to touch her. Like. Yeah,
• 30:53
  I will say that as far as like a horror piece,
• 30:56
  incredibly effective, so far, like from.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: From the idea of a doll man, like an immortal
• 31:02
  doll man.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: And then also the weird thing is it would be
• 31:05
  systematic or I guess generational generational Yeah, yeah, yeah, the
• 31:11
  generational trauma is fucking crazy from this weird candleman.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Okay. During the evenings, he would gather our family into
• 31:20
  the living room and give us a short lesson on
• 31:21
  how to be a good person. My parents never spoke
• 31:24
  during these talks, just sat next to us nodding. Tommy
• 31:29
  told us not to make fun of others, to love
• 31:31
  our friends and enemies, and always help those in need,
• 31:35
  told us that's why he was here with us. To
• 31:38
  help my parents raise us that we could come talk
• 31:41
  to him if we had a problem at school or
• 31:43
  didn't know how to handle certain situations. It went on
• 31:47
  like this for a month, and that's when my mother
• 31:49
  lost it. I feel ill.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: This is I just want to say, it's very unsettling,
• 31:56
  Like it's it's very effective.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: It's great from a whole perspective. Yeah, they're killing it
• 32:02
  for sure, But that being said, I don't like that
• 32:06
  they're killing it right now.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: The kind of shit, because.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: It makes me upset.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Because I am uncomfied.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Because I was having a good day and I'm not
• 32:18
  all of a sudden, all at once. And I think
• 32:21
  the reason for that this little sorry. Okay. August nineteen
• 32:28
  eighty nine. My father had just arrived home from work
• 32:31
  and I was sitting at the kitchen table doing my homework.
• 32:34
  My mother was cooking dinner, and Stephanie was practicing her
• 32:36
  dance for an upcoming school play. She was going to
• 32:39
  be a ballerina and had three weeks to learn a
• 32:41
  few simple spins and twirls. She had been diligently practicing
• 32:45
  over the past few days, but just couldn't get it right.
• 32:48
  She was young, and her temper was getting the better
• 32:50
  of her when Tommy decided to help her. You had
• 32:54
  been sitting on the couch watching her, when suddenly he
• 32:56
  rose and stood behind my sister, placing his hands gently
• 33:02
  over her shoulders.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Oh god, dude, it was to be the fucking guy's voice. Yeah,
• 33:13
  I'm glad, help sweetie. I'm glad, I'm glad.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: You have to be that voice. Good, let me help, sweetie,
• 33:20
  he cued, his voice carrying a cheerful note. My mother
• 33:23
  spun around from the stove, and I saw her visibly tense.
• 33:27
  She didn't like Tommy touching us. This is I know,
• 33:29
  I know where it's going. It is, I know where
• 33:31
  it has.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: To be going.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: The eighteen content warnings tell me where this is going.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: What I wouldn't give to just have him be like
• 33:38
  more of like a Looney Tunes character and just has
• 33:40
  like a cast iron skillet and he just like beats
• 33:42
  the ship out of the children. That would be so
• 33:45
  much more digestible.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I would be thrilled if he dropped an Anne villain
• 33:58
  one of the kids.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Oh god, absolutely, that would be.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: That would hit like a drug at the moment. It
• 34:04
  would be awesome. But no, we don't get that.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: No, oh, absolutely not.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: She gripped the wooden spoon in her hand until her
• 34:14
  knuckles went white, watching as Tommy crouched and cut Stephanie's
• 34:18
  body with his He took her hands in his from
• 34:23
  behind and guided her arms and waist his cheek, pressing
• 34:27
  gently against my sister's.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Fuck Mom beat his ass.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I imagine though, that like Tommy's like a like a
• 34:36
  some monster, right, you can't kill him.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming that he is wearing a costume or something.
• 34:42
  I'm assuming that there is something inside. I don't necessarily
• 34:46
  believe that he is actually just a doll. I think
• 34:48
  it is some kind of entity that is dressed up
• 34:50
  as a man. Hinting that also, I'm thinking that as
• 34:54
  a predator standpoint from the story that I think it's
• 34:57
  trying to do is that monsters.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Wear masks or whatever.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Predators wear masks and stuff, which is why I think
• 35:05
  I think it's supposed to be uncanny like that reason.
• 35:07
  But I do think, like I don't know if it's
• 35:09
  going to be paranormal. I don't know if it's going
• 35:11
  to be well, I don't know what avenue they're going,
• 35:15
  but I do think it is like something that is
• 35:17
  not human.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Tommy let her learn on her own.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Mom said, her voice shaking. Tommy didn't even look at her,
• 35:24
  just kept guiding my sister. I could hear my father
• 35:27
  coming down the stairs, freshly changed from a day at
• 35:29
  the office. Tommy spunned my sister and for the first time,
• 35:32
  she knelt the twirl her little feet, twisted her body
• 35:35
  in a complete circle. Tommy clapped his hands once and
• 35:38
  then leaned down and kissed Stephanie on the cheek.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Good girl, don't do that.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: My mother shrieked, dropping the spoon, face straining the blood.
• 35:49
  I jumped in my seat at the table and swallowed hard.
• 35:52
  I didn't know why my mom was getting so upset.
• 35:54
  He was just helping her.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, your naive little son of a Bill's six.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the point.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: They don't understand what's happening, especially him six years. That
• 36:04
  is with us reading stories that are representational of like
• 36:09
  childhood abuse, why does that keep happening.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of horrifying things whatever, But I just think,
• 36:14
  is there anything more horrifying than this?
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, it's hard to put.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I think I would transfer my paycheck to the author
• 36:23
  if all of a sudden, Kyle from Barrosca just walked
• 36:26
  in the door. It was like, Yo, this chicken sucks.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Yo, mister t's am, I turn to dance with you,
• 36:31
  yet you've got sandwiches puts on. I kissed a girl
• 36:35
  and I liked it by Katy Perry. He's like, damn that,
• 36:38
  you know that chicken smells sweet.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: In my mind, Kyle's there right now making this better.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's becoming my guardian angel. It's my comfort character.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I also do deep down that it was
• 36:56
  a bad idea to yell at the new member of
• 36:58
  our family. It was It's the gut instinct of a child,
• 37:01
  a gentle warning that rumbled in my head. Tommy stood.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: One thing I do like about this story, though, is
• 37:11
  that he never blashes back out.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: He just laughs. And that's how you know that He's like,
• 37:15
  that's the wrong answer.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, uh oh, bad decision.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. It's just like a little uncanny.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: So so it's literally like a it's like a rattlesnake
• 37:26
  rattling their tail.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: How that man my father was standing at the foot
• 37:31
  of the stairs now frozen. I'm sure what to make
• 37:33
  of the confrontation.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Megan what's wrong.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, my mother's eyes never left Tommy Spence.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore. I can't keep pretending everything
• 37:45
  is all right. We know what the monster is, we
• 37:49
  know what he did to our town all those years ago.
• 37:51
  I want him out of our house.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: My father's eyes went wide, panic blooming in his face.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Megan.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: He licked his lips, eyes start heading back and forth
• 38:00
  at all of us.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Don't be rude. Tommy has been a big help.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: My mom grid her teeth. Stop that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Stop pretending we want him here. I can't watch this happen.
• 38:11
  I want him out.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Very slowly, Tommy walked into the kitchen, stood in front
• 38:16
  of my mother. He looked down at her, his perfect
• 38:19
  blue eyes shining like crystal moons. His voice was like
• 38:22
  frozen silk.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Megan, would you come down to the basement with me.
• 38:27
  I need to have a few words with you. Oh
• 38:34
  that's good.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: My mother took a step back.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Get away from me, get away from my family.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: You're not welcome here anymore.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: She turned desperate eyes to my father.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Spence, do something.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: My dad raised his hands in a gesture of helplessness.
• 38:53
  I could see he was terrified.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: What a pussy fuck him?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Realistically, Okay, let's say that this thing is some kind
• 38:59
  of mod demon. I don't know what happened when Spence
• 39:02
  was a kid, maybe that maybe the prequel will lean
• 39:04
  into that, right right, Maybe like a whole town like
• 39:07
  shot at him or something and it did nothing. Who knows, right, sure,
• 39:11
  but I would think you would be there just unloading
• 39:15
  into this thing, right sure.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I mean the thing about it is that even if
• 39:20
  the even if the action is futile, it's just the
• 39:23
  act of like you want these people, especially parents, especially
• 39:27
  the mom is actually being like, fuck this, I'm not
• 39:29
  doing this anymore. She's standing up for not only her family,
• 39:33
  but for you know, or herself and her family. And
• 39:36
  now the dad is just just like, oh, I don't know,
• 39:38
  you want him to go up and be like, yeah, no,
• 39:40
  get the fuck out of here.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: And even if it's futile, they did the right thing.
• 39:44
  What water hold on?
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: What if like if someone does that, if the family,
• 39:49
  if the family simultaneously like get out, what if he
• 39:51
  just kills the family?
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: That begs the well, here's the thing that begs the
• 39:54
  question of is it is it worth figuring out? Like?
• 39:58
  Is it worth dying over being in a perpetual, tormented hell.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Like if you said it's likely.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Five years, he said it's five years, it's a long time.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: That is a long time. But is that worth understand?
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Well that I mean that's just the thing though too.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: It just depends on how you what kind of if
• 40:16
  this is going down into the trauma that we're getting
• 40:18
  ready to go into, right that five years could completely
• 40:22
  destroy a person's entire life, trust with other people.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: It can these kinds of things shape you entirely. That's
• 40:29
  who you are.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not advocating for like the death obviously, I'm just
• 40:32
  saying that, like, it just depends, like what kind of
• 40:35
  life have the mom and dad been living?
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Right this? This begs an interesting question. I haven't really
• 40:40
  thought of what level of pain would you allow your
• 40:46
  family to go through if the alternative was they die.
• 40:51
  That's a it's hard, that's a heavy That is a
• 40:53
  heavy question, you know.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Very subjective. I mean, it just depends per person. You
• 40:58
  would like to think that if it's something that listen,
• 41:01
  it's like this so fucked up. If if Tommy Taffy
• 41:05
  was a Looney Tunes character who's just like I'm gonna
• 41:07
  break your kid's legs, but they won't die. Yeah, And
• 41:11
  if it was just like this torturous thing, I would
• 41:13
  probably be like, Okay, I'm sorry, and like my kid
• 41:15
  will probably like you let that happen. But I'm like, well,
• 41:18
  it's better than you're gone forever you're alive versus Hey,
• 41:21
  this thing is going to fundamentally destroy your brain and
• 41:25
  like you'll never be able to trust anyone again. Like
• 41:27
  it just depends. I don't know, I really don't know.
• 41:30
  That's a loaded that's like such a yeah.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: It is an insanely uncomfortable question. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
• 41:38
  Stephanie was watching from the living room, her lip quivering,
• 41:41
  eyes watering. I suddenly wanted to go comforter, but I
• 41:43
  felt glued to my chair.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Come on, now, Megan, just a quick word, fuck you.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: My mother spat. I gasped, heart dropping into my stomach.
• 41:55
  I never heard my mother swear before, and it scared me.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Stuff.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Man, a kid in that situation, that's what scares him.
• 42:01
  Oh man, this is what I get for making fun
• 42:03
  of the dialogue being hammy at the beginning. This is
• 42:06
  my fault.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Well you what's funny is that they really only had
• 42:09
  that handy dialogue for two's two lines.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: And then it's immediately cheesy enough because this is I
• 42:15
  like this back and forth, like I think it's very suspenseful.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Suddenly Tommy grabbed my mother by the back of the neck,
• 42:23
  a smile never leaving his face, and yanked her to
• 42:25
  the basement door.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Stop him, help me.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: My mother screamed, helplessly, trying to remove Tommy's iron grip
• 42:33
  frum her. Tommy shot my dad a look that froze
• 42:37
  him where he stood.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, making we need to do what he says.
• 42:43
  He cried, what a fucking pussy that's actually that's so ugh.
• 42:48
  I'm I'm like depressed right now.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: This is god. This this was like a pound of
• 42:56
  bricks just thrown at me. All it want. Stephanie was
• 42:59
  now openly crying, hands at her sides, tears running down
• 43:03
  her face. I felt sick as I watched Tommy open
• 43:06
  the basement door and dragged my mother down into the darkness.
• 43:11
  The door slam closed behind them. It was silent for
• 43:14
  a few minutes, and then the screams began. I had
• 43:18
  never heard my mother scream before, and the sound of
• 43:21
  it shattered me. My father ran into the kitchen, scooped
• 43:25
  me up into his arms, and snatched up Stephanie and
• 43:27
  his other one. He marched us upstairs into his bedroom
• 43:30
  and dumped us onto the bed. We sat huddled like
• 43:32
  that for hours, none of us speaking a word. My
• 43:36
  mother continued to scream. Finally, long after the sunset, we
• 43:40
  heard the basement door open.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Mostly being in the basement tonight, Tommy called out, Wow,
• 43:46
  let me ask you. Are you as upset with the
• 43:49
  dad as I am?
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I think that guy should be dead. Yeah,
• 43:54
  one hundred percent. I think here's okay. Realistically, let's say
• 43:57
  this guy, let's say Tommy as like a demon or
• 43:59
  you know, something adjacent, Right, you can't kill it. What
• 44:03
  you would do if if he grabs your wife is
• 44:06
  you take the kids outside, tell them to run, tell
• 44:09
  them to go you know wherever, something like that.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you go down there and you help
• 44:12
  her and you burn the house down.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: You go down there like if if that, if, if
• 44:16
  you can't kill this thing, well guess what good luck
• 44:18
  coming to a house that doesn't exist?
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Right, Like, Yeah, the most you have to do is
• 44:23
  save the children, because even then, I think your wife,
• 44:25
  what your wife would be like, if we could try
• 44:28
  to get rid of this thing and it takes us out,
• 44:29
  at least they have a shot, Yeah, at doing you know, living.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I think so too.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: But I my heart fell into my stomach when when
• 44:39
  she says, Spence, stop him, help me, and my mother
• 44:42
  screamed helplessly trying to remove Tommy's iron grip from her.
• 44:45
  Tommy shot my dad a look that froze him where
• 44:47
  he stood. It almost made I read that, and in
• 44:49
  my mind's eye, it made me think that he was
• 44:52
  walking right in front of him, like they're not across
• 44:55
  the room.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he walked, he staying by to him. Yeah, and
• 44:57
  he just does nothing.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: At what point, too, after a thing like that, would
• 45:01
  you ever be able to trust your spouse again? You
• 45:05
  wouldn't be able to.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I think she's dead or well, oh oh no. The
• 45:09
  next line talks about the mom. No, I was saying,
• 45:12
  I thought that the mom died. There she's sleeping in
• 45:14
  the basement tonight. You know, she's not read it. I
• 45:17
  read it like he was just doing something.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Some kind of tortures act to her and she's either
• 45:21
  blacked out or she's on the verge of death. But
• 45:23
  he's like, oh, she's sleeping in the basement tonight, because
• 45:25
  I feel like if he would have killed her, I
• 45:27
  think he would have just been like, we're gonna have
• 45:29
  to find you a new mom, or something like.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: What happens if you just leave? Right? What happens if like.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Well, well, I think that I think the idea is
• 45:39
  at least what they've pointed out with this being a
• 45:41
  generational thing, I don't think it really matters where you go.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: He's going to show up.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: You sure, But if it's a five year gap, why
• 45:47
  not just like I mean, I would game it, you know,
• 45:50
  you stay in public spaces for five years if need
• 45:53
  be right?
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Right, I don't.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man like it that some way other
• 45:57
  than putting your kids upstairs and making them hear their
• 45:59
  mid scream you know.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: No, I think it's once again becomes a subjective thing
• 46:04
  where obviously I think it's easier like in a in
• 46:07
  a way of reading a story or like watching a movie,
• 46:10
  it's easier to just be like just move. But that's
• 46:12
  you know how hard that is? Also what kind of
• 46:15
  I mean a kid.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Sure, But the alternative here is your wife gets brutalized
• 46:19
  in the basement while well, no, no, no move like be homeless,
• 46:25
  like goes lay on a public street where there's witnesses
• 46:28
  or something.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Right, Sure, no, I mean you're not You're you're not wrong.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's just one of those things where it's like,
• 46:34
  I don't know, he just showed up randomly one day.
• 46:36
  So maybe from how I'm looking at it as well,
• 46:39
  I'm wondering if they're just like, oh, we just need
• 46:41
  to let him do what he wants and he'll leave
• 46:43
  again for.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Who knows how long? So who knows.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: March nineteen ninety one, two years past. After that night,
• 46:52
  my mother never resisted or talked back to Tommy again.
• 46:55
  She came out of the basement the following morning. I
• 46:57
  expected to see her covered in bruises and blood, but
• 47:00
  I could see no visible signs of violence. I was
• 47:04
  too young to understand what had happened, why my mother
• 47:08
  now walked with a limp and would for the rest
• 47:10
  of her life. She didn't speak to my father for
• 47:13
  a month, and even then it was just enough to
• 47:15
  get by. I noticed my father crying a lot during
• 47:18
  those two years. I didn't know what was happening to
• 47:21
  my family, but I kept my mouth shut. And obeyed
• 47:24
  the rules. Listen to Tommy, don't talk about Tommy to others.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: What do you think happens if you talk to Tommy
• 47:32
  to others? Do you think it's something where.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: It's like maybe you pass it on? Yeah?
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Does it pass on? You think?
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Could could be for sure?
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Or if you just find out about it, do you
• 47:41
  just get punished even more, et cetera.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think at the end of the day, if
• 47:45
  this is some kind of like, uh, what's a mimetic
• 47:48
  terricie whatever, Yeah, then keeping it to yourself probably is
• 47:51
  the best move. Maybe that's why you don't go into
• 47:56
  public with it, right, Like what I said, like, go
• 48:00
  to the public, Maybe then it infects everyone else, you know.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Well that's why I'm like, I'm wondering if there's more
• 48:05
  than one tell.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Me because remember she said, remember what it did to
• 48:08
  our town? Yeah? Yeah, maybe it did. Maybe if you
• 48:12
  see it, it does infect you. Maybe that's why the
• 48:14
  father won't leave.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: The house applies?
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Does who knows?
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Oh Man? Things went calm during those two years. Tommy
• 48:22
  continued to give us life lessons and be a part
• 48:24
  of our home. No one but my family knew he
• 48:26
  was living with us. He was our secret, the dark
• 48:30
  star that hung above our heads. I learned to smile
• 48:33
  around Tommy, as did my sister. If he thought we
• 48:35
  were happy, he seemed more relaxed that night. My mother
• 48:40
  challenged him. That changed something. Every couple months, Tommy would
• 48:45
  assert his authority over my parents. He would test them,
• 48:49
  stretch the limits of their patients and nerves. Most of
• 48:53
  the time, my father and mother would humbly submit to
• 48:56
  whatever mind game he played with them. Most of the time,
• 48:59
  he would you or say something to Stephanie or myself.
• 49:03
  It always made me uncomfortable. Sometimes he would have us
• 49:06
  sit on his lap while he stroked our hair. Sometimes
• 49:09
  he'd sing strange songs to my sister about love. Sometimes
• 49:15
  he would make us take a bath together while he watched.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Well, key, you' kee, I.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Blame you hunter, This was key.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: I will take blame.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've already jumped off the edge of the cliff.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I I offer myself.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: I always put on a brave face during these times.
• 49:41
  Stephanie was young still, so she wasn't as bothered as
• 49:44
  I was. It was uncomfortable, and I would look to
• 49:47
  my parents for guidance with pale faces. They nod silently,
• 49:50
  and I continue whatever activity we were forced into doing.
• 49:55
  It was in the early part of nineteen ninety one
• 49:57
  when the next awful thing happened to my family. Tommy
• 50:01
  pushed the limits once again.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Yay.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm sad, I'm upset, and I've disappointed. This
• 50:11
  is terrifying and this podcast is called creep cast. You
• 50:14
  know what good good game there, But.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, a's crazy as I feel disgusted,
• 50:19
  but I am still intrigued by the character it is.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: It is a fascinating It is an insanely fascinating monster.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: So I rubbed sleep from my eyes and looked at
• 50:31
  my race car clock on the wall. The glow in
• 50:33
  the dark hands read two AM. I could hear something
• 50:36
  in the hallway outside my room. It sounded like someone crying.
• 50:41
  Where was Tommy. I checked the dark corners of my
• 50:44
  room to make sure he wasn't there watching me sleep.
• 50:46
  When I was assured he wasn't, I pulled the covers
• 50:49
  away and slipped to the floor. I crept to my
• 50:51
  door and looked out into the darkness. I could see
• 50:54
  a figure sitting on the floor by my sister's closed door,
• 50:58
  A person I squid in the black and realized it
• 51:00
  was my father with his hands over his face. He
• 51:03
  was sobbing. He's back against the wall, Dad, I whispered.
• 51:08
  My father looked up and immediately shoot me back into
• 51:11
  my room. I just stood there as my eyes adjusted
• 51:13
  to the night. My father's face was a mess of
• 51:15
  blood and bruises.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: Go back to bed, Matt.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: I took a hesitant step out in the hallway.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Dad, What happened to your face? What's going on?
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: Did Tommy do that?
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: My father's eyes went wide and he shushed me.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: No, no, of course not. Don't say such things. Tell
• 51:33
  me he's here to help us be a better family.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I walk closer to my dad and froze as I
• 51:39
  passed my sister's door.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Oh fuck you, I fucking this. This dad is officially
• 51:46
  my least fan like I am.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not even joking like the actual I'm actually fucking
• 51:51
  mad like I do this, Dad, I fucking hate him.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: At least have the balls to kill yourself, I would say.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: In the way of having the balls to kill yourself,
• 51:59
  I would say bite trying to stop.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's what I mean. Like, if
• 52:04
  if it's a final resistance or whatever, right, strap c.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Four to yourself, like going there like that's yeah, well
• 52:11
  seriously though, like it's unfucking believable. And now he was
• 52:14
  just sitting outside the door. Ooh, he's here to help us,
• 52:17
  fuck you dude, especially like it's the it's the thing,
• 52:20
  the worst thing that could happen is already happening. So
• 52:23
  it's just like it's like for I don't know, brainwashed,
• 52:27
  fucking loser.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's. The story says that he hears cries
• 52:31
  coming from his sister's room, and then the the the
• 52:36
  boy whatever his name is, whispers.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, dad, what's wrong with steph?
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: My father wiped a trail of blood from his lips,
• 52:44
  eyes watering, anguish, stretching his features.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Come here, Matt, So wait where they trying to insinuate
• 52:49
  to the blood that he tried to stop him and
• 52:52
  that's what happened.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: I think that's what he's saying.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: I crawled into his outstretched arms as something loud banged
• 52:58
  against the wall from my sister's room. Oh my god, okay,
• 53:02
  well no that that that means that like she got
• 53:05
  thrown right right, Like he's like he's beating her right.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's what it was. He's picking her up
• 53:13
  and just throwing shells and shipping. That's when Tommy Taffy
• 53:17
  started making every room the house at w W E
• 53:20
  ring watt.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Watch out.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: That's like, it's funny if you imagine the dad is like,
• 53:33
  uh Randy Savage. The mom screaming downstairs is her getting
• 53:42
  like thrown into the garage door.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Completely renovated it to be like a fucking giant stadium
• 53:56
  down there.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: At the end of the story, the kid goes down
• 53:59
  there just like a rope ring.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Like Vince McMahon is down there and he's like, you
• 54:03
  meet Tommy Taffy.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: You get a contract. Kid, We're getting extremely ahead of ourselves.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Oh well, this is good. I think I would rather
• 54:13
  the kid be getting like Batista bomb to death than
• 54:16
  dealing with Yeah. Okay. So I crawled into his outstretched
• 54:20
  arms with something loud banged against the wall. I jumped
• 54:23
  to My father curled me up into his chest. He
• 54:25
  could feel tears drip onto my head as he fought
• 54:27
  back misery.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Tommy's in there, isn't he?
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Then I looked up into his bloody face.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: What did you do? Dad.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: He tried to smile, his face wouldn't cooperate.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: He he wanted to do something with your sister.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't like, and I told him no.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: As he spoke, I realized I could hear my mother
• 54:49
  crying from the bedroom. That kept his hand under my chin.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: He can't say no to Tommy, Okay, remember that?
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just like just just uh, try to punch it
• 55:01
  to death, do something, let it kill you, Like any
• 55:03
  scenario other than what how is this dad? How does
• 55:08
  any self respecting father still have the ability to walk
• 55:11
  like he hasn't had his spine snapped and he's setting
• 55:13
  outside crying.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what That's what I'm saying is I'm so
• 55:18
  upset is that he's like sitting outside the door that's
• 55:21
  literally where it's happening. Yeah, like the worst imaginable thing
• 55:24
  that could happen to your daughter's happening in the other room,
• 55:27
  and you're just sitting there like a little bitch being like,
• 55:29
  oh I tried to, but god, he hit me a
• 55:32
  couple of times in my face.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Fuck off, you see. Unfucking believable.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: It would only be respectable if the dad, if every
• 55:39
  bone in his body was broken.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: That's what I meant. Like his spine wasna. Yeah, like
• 55:44
  he's he's a vegetable now yeah, or whatever that would
• 55:47
  make sense. I'd be like, Okay, well you know that's
• 55:50
  a good effort. Yeah, the dad, you gave it a
• 55:54
  good that's respectable. He's a for effort. My sister screamed
• 56:00
  from her bedroom, a shrill, piercing cry that took me
• 56:02
  to my soul. I grabbed my father's arm.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Why is he here? Why can't he just go away?
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: My father was silent a moment, then he lowered his
• 56:09
  mouth to my ear.
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: Listener, Man, this is very important when you grow up
• 56:14
  you do not have children. He follows those with children.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: If you knew that, why you have kids? I fucking
• 56:20
  hate that guy.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, hold on. You knew it would come
• 56:24
  back specifically if you have children and you had kids,
• 56:27
  you had to.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Know that too.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna declare it right now, and I don't want
• 56:33
  to put it. This is the worst character. This is
• 56:36
  the worst. This has to be the worst character we've
• 56:39
  ever had just sent through.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as far as like the way it's written, because
• 56:43
  it's so long, I I don't know if this is
• 56:47
  more cowardice than evil. I would maybe consider the main
• 56:50
  character's father from Boroska maybe worse because he willingly sold
• 56:53
  his daughter into it, you know, true, But here here
• 56:57
  it's because you have to live with it, you know,
• 57:00
  it's yeah, coming up.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I would say, Okay, well, let me say they're on
• 57:03
  this coward is what I would say. Yeah, I would
• 57:07
  agree because the other guy is he's cowardice and he's
• 57:09
  sold in his daughter and yeah he felt bad about it,
• 57:12
  but still fucked that guy from Brosca. But even this
• 57:14
  guy here is he's a coward, but he knew he
• 57:17
  could have prevented I feel like it's more evil because
• 57:19
  I feel like I know he could have prevented it.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that line about don't have kids makes it makes
• 57:25
  it worse.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it makes it. I am I'm fused.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: I could see if, like at the end of like
• 57:31
  his story, they thought they killed it or something like that. Yeah, yeah,
• 57:35
  there's no redemption this guy can have. I don't think.
• 57:37
  I don't see a scenario. I mean, even if it
• 57:39
  does result in the death of your family.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Also, I just want to say, how fucking crazy is
• 57:43
  this dude that your brother is sitting in your dad's
• 57:47
  arms outside of a room where the worst thing ever
• 57:49
  is happening, and now he's he's having this conversation here
• 57:52
  like hello.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: I shifted in my father's arms as something was dragged
• 57:57
  across the floor from the other side of the wall.
• 58:00
  Maybe the child is just getting beat up.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: In my mind, I feel like I have I have
• 58:06
  once again the Batista bombing.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the getting hit on the wall and dragged across
• 58:13
  the floor sounds like like being thrown beat up, stuff
• 58:16
  like that, right, So yeah, my father grit his teeth
• 58:19
  more tears felling.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: We don't know who he is, what he is.
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: He came to a town when we were little boys
• 58:25
  and girls, just like you and Stephanie.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Your mother and I lived two houses down from one another.
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: Tommy infested our street. I don't know how he was everywhere.
• 58:39
  Always he'd be at my house, but also across the
• 58:43
  street and also at your mother's all the same time.
• 58:49
  I don't know what else he wants, what his purposes.
• 58:53
  He just showed up one day, just showed up at
• 58:56
  Won't col Way. God knows. My father tried.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Is that how Grandpa died?
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: I asked, ID never met my Grandpa. I just knew
• 59:05
  he had died years before I was born. My father nodded, yes,
• 59:09
  ma'm tell me, tell me how to teach him a lesson.
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: He had to teach the entire street lesson, and after that,
• 59:18
  after that, why can't you just.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: Just kill him?
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: I whispered, ever so softly. My dad brought his mouth
• 59:26
  closer to my ear, his voice fairly audible.
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: We tried, We tried everything. We burned him, shot him,
• 59:35
  got him to pieces, but it never worked. He always
• 59:40
  came back knocking at our door, and someone had to pay.
• 59:46
  Someone always has to pay. If we didn't follow his rules,
• 59:51
  someone had to pay. Tommy was our secret. He was
• 59:55
  our invisible monster, hidden from the outside world. Deaths were
• 1:00:01
  covered up, abuse was brushed.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Under the rug.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: But because we knew, we knew if anyone said a word,
• 1:00:09
  Tommy would make it bad for whoever, I had to
• 1:00:12
  face his punishment.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: How does that paragraph make you feel?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's immortal.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: I get it, there's no use or whatever, But I
• 1:00:20
  guess it's just the sheer fact of I still just think,
• 1:00:23
  like so, people are going to just let this thing
• 1:00:25
  happen because the power be is just invincible to me,
• 1:00:29
  I'm like, okay, well, I'm just not going to be
• 1:00:31
  a prisoner to this and I'm not going to subject that.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I also would not have children if you can shoot.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: It and it temporarily goes away, because it sounds like,
• 1:00:39
  you know, you cut it to pieces. There he is dead,
• 1:00:40
  and then a new incarnation of Tommy appears, right, Yeah,
• 1:00:44
  there's like different ones, and sure he makes it worse, right,
• 1:00:46
  So I think the best scenario is Tommy shows up
• 1:00:50
  and you blow his head off, and you're like, okay,
• 1:00:52
  go go, go, go go, right, Because if you make
• 1:00:55
  this public, yes, I guess theoretically it would infest more people.
• 1:00:59
  But like if tom if Tommy is a supernatural being,
• 1:01:03
  then that means there must be someone out there who
• 1:01:06
  knows of him, right, some ancient religion or something that
• 1:01:09
  can dispel him, right, And I think making it super
• 1:01:12
  public would cause a greater chance of.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: That to happen.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, if nothing else, dude, go to the military,
• 1:01:17
  put yourself in like a twenty four you know, if
• 1:01:19
  it becomes a public event, like go get in a
• 1:01:22
  situation where you have twenty four hour like surveillance, watch
• 1:01:25
  something like that. Right in any scenario other than crying
• 1:01:28
  in the floor while your daughter's in the next room.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: I just think I would rather be dead.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I feel like I would just I
• 1:01:36
  do not want to have to live like that is
• 1:01:38
  not a life, that is a it's a prison.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean honestly, like, I know, people have
• 1:01:43
  different definitions of like you know, morality cause purpose, stuff
• 1:01:46
  like that, But what are you that's close to human
• 1:01:49
  if that if you just allow that to happen, you know, well.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean what kind of actual human experience
• 1:01:56
  is that?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I mean at that, Yeah, You're you're
• 1:01:59
  a dog. You're just literally you're an animal that follows orders,
• 1:02:02
  sets when told to set stuff like that.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not bring another life into this world,
• 1:02:08
  especially if I'm cursed or plagued with this thing that
• 1:02:11
  is a luxury.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: I do not get to have.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: Sounds like he knew it would never go away, and
• 1:02:16
  yet he had children?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: What a what a monster? What a loser?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: That's That's what I'm saying, is it's a thing where
• 1:02:22
  it's like, oh, well I loved your mother. You don't
• 1:02:24
  get to have that luxury.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: You don't. You can you can have someone in.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: A companion who has been through the traumatic experience that
• 1:02:30
  you have right but to pro create is.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: The please kill yourself?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like literally, Actually it's fucking and it's insane.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I think I agree with you that, at
• 1:02:43
  least emotionally, based on how it's portrayed, this has got
• 1:02:46
  to be the worst character. Now that doesn't mean worst
• 1:02:48
  quality wise, because I think this is a very interesting
• 1:02:51
  story in written, well, I mean worse, Like I'm just.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Saying like this guy, Yeah, I think like morally bankrupt
• 1:02:57
  pieces of ship and even to the mom's extent too,
• 1:02:59
  Like mad at the mom for even allowing that, because
• 1:03:01
  now she even as a kid that happened, Like if
• 1:03:05
  they knew that together. It's just one of those things
• 1:03:06
  where you're like, what the fuck even now with the
• 1:03:09
  case of her being like, oh, I'm going to stand
• 1:03:10
  up to it. You shouldnt have even done it in
• 1:03:12
  the first place, Like this should not even be a
• 1:03:14
  bridge you guys have to cross.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're both wildly reckless. Yeah, I hate the father
• 1:03:19
  more just because I feel such frustration for him. But yeah,
• 1:03:23
  you're right the mom, If not the dad, the mom
• 1:03:26
  should have been like no, duh.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at least the mother has done something heroically, she.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Has had some level of like standing up to him.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Right, and now this is the first time technically we've
• 1:03:37
  read the story where the dad is like beating up
• 1:03:39
  a little bit and he's just like, it's been years, years,
• 1:03:44
  and that's the first time.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Like.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: What's Tommy's respawn time, like eight hours or something? All right, well,
• 1:03:52
  I'm in shifts now. I'm sitting at the front door
• 1:03:54
  sniper rifle. Every time he walks up the driveway, I'm
• 1:03:56
  stacking bodies right there.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: It's like the jeepers cree when yeah, yeah, yeah, they
• 1:04:02
  know when they know when the monster is going to
• 1:04:04
  come back.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: And he's like, all right, I'm just gonna say I
• 1:04:06
  know exactly. I'm gonna be right here waiting for him.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Whatever, it's normal. Just don't talk about it. Yeah, it
• 1:04:11
  is how this is. It is how this feels.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: Yep. I think so, and I don't like it. I
• 1:04:17
  was sitting in my room with the door closed. It
• 1:04:19
  was almost dinner time and everyone was downstairs getting ready.
• 1:04:22
  I could hear Tommy laughing from the living room. Look
• 1:04:25
  down at the magazine one of my friends at school
• 1:04:27
  had given me it was a playboy. Uh no, you're
• 1:04:33
  a little too young to be reading that, brother. Oh.
• 1:04:36
  We had poured over the pages at school, giggling and
• 1:04:39
  augling over the naked women scattered through the magazine. I
• 1:04:42
  never seen anything like it. It was my first exposure
• 1:04:44
  to that world. It may my heart raised some ways,
• 1:04:47
  I enjoyed, and I felt something weird but pleasurable stirring
• 1:04:50
  inside of me. I'd ask my friend if I could
• 1:04:52
  borrow the magazine, and he had let me. I adjusted
• 1:04:56
  myself on my bed and poured over the nude photos.
• 1:04:59
  I couldn't believe and actually let people take pictures of
• 1:05:01
  them like this. I felt, I don't want to read
• 1:05:05
  that line, he felt the thing that you would feel.
• 1:05:09
  My heart was racing as I felt hot.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: My cheeks flush.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't like where this is going. Man,
• 1:05:15
  if it gets too explicit.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: We'll we'll.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: I'll read over it quietly in summarize. I was on
• 1:05:21
  the last page when I heard something from the doorway.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Once you got there, Matt, I.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Whipped my head up, jumping the magazine falling to the floor.
• 1:05:29
  Tommy was watching me from the door. I hadn't even
• 1:05:31
  heard him open it nothing, I mumbled, snatching the Playboy
• 1:05:36
  up and shoving it under my pillow. Tommy walked over
• 1:05:39
  to me.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear you come in, I.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: Mumbled, blushing. Tommy reached under my pillow and pulled out
• 1:05:47
  the magazine.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: It's not nice to lie. I've told you that. Why
• 1:05:52
  were you lying to me, Matt?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: I swallowed hard, heart thundering against my rib cage.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: I trailed off miserably. As Tommy thumbed through the pages,
• 1:06:05
  he glanced down at me.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: Do you like this?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: I knew I couldn't lie to him again. I nodded,
• 1:06:11
  my skin flush. I was on the floor. Tommy smiled
• 1:06:14
  and sat down next to me on the bed. One okay,
• 1:06:17
  one hand, yeah, one hand's touching his leg, and Tommy says.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Do these pictures make you feel good?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't look at him as I nodded again. Suddenly,
• 1:06:27
  all right, yep, not reading that, not reading that, not
• 1:06:29
  reading that at all. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:06:32
  no no.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: No the quote no oh gosh, oh my gosh, oh
• 1:06:41
  no no oh.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Do not go read this, do not go look this up?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: And no.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: As owner of Creek Cast, I am using my veto
• 1:06:52
  power of authority to say for I think the first time,
• 1:06:55
  we're not going to read this section. I'm going to
• 1:06:58
  quietly read it as I continue to react, and then
• 1:07:00
  we'll summarize.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, I just got done reading it and I want
• 1:07:03
  to fucking throw up. Basically, he was gonna teach the
• 1:07:07
  kid how to uh have a loane time, but he
• 1:07:12
  doesn't end up doing it, and he kisses him with
• 1:07:13
  tongue in his mouth at the end.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: That's what a fucking what? It just seems so unnecessary.
• 1:07:18
  This seems like, yeah, his way to is his way
• 1:07:20
  too explicit?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's bordering on snuff. I mean like he
• 1:07:24
  took he took a good thing, and he used we
• 1:07:26
  went too far.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Just just just skip to the next part. Yeah.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: Uh so it actually doesn't go as far as it will.
• 1:07:32
  There is one part in there that I think is
• 1:07:35
  worth noting to. What his existence is. His mouth tasted
• 1:07:40
  of rotting fruit and decayne meat.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Weird, what weird? Just rotting fruit.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: It's almost like on the inside of this plastic shell,
• 1:07:48
  he's like a rotten.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Corpse or he's like a like a reanimated just like
• 1:07:55
  pile of fleshers.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, like he like he was some accursed
• 1:07:59
  like husk of meat given a shell, right, yeah, yeah right,
• 1:08:03
  I think that's an interesting character. But yeah, that whole
• 1:08:06
  segment is way too graphic. No, I'm not reading that.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's in young going to say
• 1:08:12
  it's is there if you want to do it, but
• 1:08:13
  I think for a public it just is unnecessary.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have read. I mean the thing that
• 1:08:18
  you think what happened is implied, it doesn't go that far,
• 1:08:21
  but it's described at detail.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so to the point where it's just like, I
• 1:08:25
  don't really know what that gets you.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: It's honestly like no exaggeration. It's like poorn dialogue, but
• 1:08:32
  in a very like a horrific, horrific scenario involving a
• 1:08:36
  ten year old mind you.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's yeah, yeah man, no, thank you.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: So. July nineteen ninety four, As the day's march closer
• 1:08:44
  and closer towards July, my family developed a silent, optimistic,
• 1:08:48
  a desperate plea to make this all stop, to make
• 1:08:52
  it all go away. My mother and father made sure
• 1:08:54
  there's no reason for another hard lesson. They've been over
• 1:08:58
  backwards for Tommy bagging through, clamped that we'd all make
• 1:09:00
  it to July without another incident. On July third, we
• 1:09:04
  woke up to find Tommy Taffy was gone, five years
• 1:09:08
  to the day. Wooooo, he's gone, you'd be We couldn't
• 1:09:11
  believe it. He had simply vanished overnight. We checked the
• 1:09:15
  entire house, my mother weeping tears of relief, joy that
• 1:09:17
  the nightmare was finally over. Over checking every inch of
• 1:09:21
  the house three times over, we met the living room,
• 1:09:24
  racing one another as a family. Tommy had moved on.
• 1:09:28
  The sentence was over.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Like you said earlier, does it not almost be even
• 1:09:32
  more effective if you just stopped the part where I
• 1:09:35
  looked up or it's just like what you got there
• 1:09:37
  and then it just cuts to that.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: As the day's march closer and closer towards July. Infinitely
• 1:09:42
  works better. Let you imagine what happened, Lets you imagine
• 1:09:44
  the tear. Yeah, I think so.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: You've completely cheapened everything that you are trying to do
• 1:09:49
  there by doing that, and like it's upsetting and it's gross,
• 1:09:52
  but I don't think it's effective.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: You went too far to get the shock value moment. Yeah,
• 1:09:55
  I think so.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. I think this story becomes infinitely
• 1:10:00
  if you remove that. You know what I mean.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: You don't, it's just gratuitous to me, You don't, It
• 1:10:05
  goes into snuff.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's unnecessary.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree. My father called out of work
• 1:10:11
  and we went away for two weeks to the beach.
• 1:10:13
  During those two weeks, I kept expecting to wake up
• 1:10:15
  with Tommy standing over me, but perfect smile on his face.
• 1:10:18
  But he didn't. It was over. My parents said they're
• 1:10:21
  best to rebuild. Our family fell in the cracks that
• 1:10:24
  had been going during those long years, and loved them
• 1:10:27
  dearly for it. But some monsters just can't be forgotten.
• 1:10:31
  I don't know what Tommy Taffy was, or where he
• 1:10:34
  came from. I don't think I'll ever know what was
• 1:10:37
  his purpose? Why did he do those awful things to us?
• 1:10:40
  I pour over the possible answers until my head splits
• 1:10:43
  and I find myself crying. Memories too much to dig up.
• 1:10:47
  Some things are just left dead in the past. But
• 1:10:50
  I've forgotten what my father told me in the hallway
• 1:10:52
  that awful night outside my sister's room. I'm thirty three
• 1:10:56
  now and have remained unmarried and without children.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I can't risk it, good man.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: And it sucks, but yeah, absolutely, I can't risk that
• 1:11:03
  monster coming back into my life. I've never understood why
• 1:11:06
  my parents chose to have kids, thank you. They both
• 1:11:09
  have been exposed to Tommy during their childhood, so I
• 1:11:11
  have Stephanie and I. Maybe they didn't believe he'd come back,
• 1:11:15
  but I believe it. And I'm terrified because you see,
• 1:11:20
  yesterday my sister gave birth to twins. Oh no, oh oh.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: If you just would have removed the snuff part from that,
• 1:11:31
  this becomes a top tier one.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: That's a great ending. That is the ending to this.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't even consider that. That is so she never
• 1:11:41
  heard she never heard that message in the hallway exactly.
• 1:11:44
  She wouldn't know, she wouldn't know, she'd think it was
• 1:11:46
  over the dad's So of course he's not gonna hay
• 1:11:50
  in the five years, I'm just not gonna tell her.
• 1:11:52
  Why wouldn't you, huy, And they tried to not bring
• 1:11:56
  it up, so they never told her, and then she
• 1:11:57
  had kids. Oh man, what a great ending, What a
• 1:12:02
  great ending, What a solid ending, man, I gotta say.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: For especially, it's a great length.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: To Yeah, that's perfect. That's perfect, really easy read.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: If you get rid of the snuff thing, I dare
• 1:12:14
  I say that's a top contender.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: It's it's top three. I think without it, with it,
• 1:12:18
  I don't know, it drops more to the middle because
• 1:12:20
  it just it just went too far. It took the
• 1:12:22
  biggest thing the story had going for the nuance around
• 1:12:25
  what was happening, and then like spelled it out too much.
• 1:12:28
  It didn't need that uh cheap.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: It's like we It's just one of those things where
• 1:12:32
  it's like, dude, I get it.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh really that's what was happening.
• 1:12:37
  I didn't know.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: I think if you read it the way you said,
• 1:12:40
  with just skipping right, I think it just it flows better. Also,
• 1:12:44
  I want to say too, if you read it that
• 1:12:45
  way too, like I don't know what Tommy was or
• 1:12:48
  where he came from. I don't think i'll ever know
• 1:12:50
  what was this purpose. I think if you do that
• 1:12:53
  and you keep it all ambiguous, I think that it
• 1:12:55
  makes this entire last preamble hit so much harder.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: As I mean, over pause staple answers, I find myself crying,
• 1:13:02
  yeah too much.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it was, that, that's what it
• 1:13:05
  was because it's like, obviously something traumatic happened, right, I
• 1:13:10
  don't think as the reader I need to have that
• 1:13:12
  all spelled out to me. I think that that that
• 1:13:14
  allure of the imagination from reading this is you're opening
• 1:13:17
  up so many questions and doors that I think make
• 1:13:20
  it more impactful. But that last end part, you know,
• 1:13:23
  I don't want to keep harping on it because I
• 1:13:25
  know there's like, we get it. It's bad, but what
• 1:13:27
  a great fucking ending, because you see yesterday my sister
• 1:13:29
  gave burst to twins is crazy.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: I've read.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: I'm reading the replies right now because you know there's
• 1:13:34
  Reddit comments. It's yeah, yeah, so it's like, I don't
• 1:13:37
  know if I've ever hated something as much as I
• 1:13:39
  hate Tommy, and then quotes the part about the abuse
• 1:13:42
  to the daughter and says, seriously, screw that guy.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, shit, really, it's definitely some ten year
• 1:13:51
  old who was like who else?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: That was kind of weird when he pinched your cheeks. Yeah, seriously,
• 1:13:56
  what a jerk? That guy is a meani. But also
• 1:14:00
  I don't know if we So this is about eight
• 1:14:02
  years old.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: This first one ends by someone named Elias Underscore with
• 1:14:06
  row with row.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they link their very effectively their Facebook at
• 1:14:11
  the bottom.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Well, well we'll obviously leave that in the description stuff.
• 1:14:15
  But I gotta say, for a monster that is personified
• 1:14:17
  to be something about what I would say is generational
• 1:14:20
  trauma in that way, or especially how trauma like that
• 1:14:23
  can repeat itself, I think is extremely effective. I think
• 1:14:26
  it's like very very creepy. It doesn't go too over
• 1:14:29
  the board with it. But I liked like the one
• 1:14:31
  little If you could have gotten that, if you could
• 1:14:33
  have gotten that description of the rotting fruit and meat,
• 1:14:38
  put it somewhere else in a different in a different way,
• 1:14:40
  I think that would have been.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Nice because I like that. I like that it was
• 1:14:42
  just like a little it was a little spice.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if each time you heard something different about him,
• 1:14:47
  I think it would personify him too much. I think that,
• 1:14:49
  like his outer appearance is already so uncanny. I mean, honestly,
• 1:14:53
  even to picturing him as a giant funko pop character
• 1:14:57
  like fucked me up, not even a lie.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: Put it some way where like like he gets too
• 1:15:03
  close to his face and his breath smells like talking.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Exactly like that. Yeah, yeah, exactly makes sense.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Otherwise than that, though at the same time, I
• 1:15:11
  do I guess if there was criticisms about him, I
• 1:15:14
  do wish that there was more to his character besides
• 1:15:17
  just being this creep, which I think even if you're
• 1:15:19
  trying to do something where you're trying to make a
• 1:15:21
  monster personified, over that kind of create you over that
• 1:15:25
  kind of subject matter, I kind of wish that there
• 1:15:28
  was just a bit more with him, because the entire
• 1:15:31
  time it was very kind of one note of like
• 1:15:33
  caressing cheeks, like putting fingers through a hair. At what
• 1:15:38
  point it was just one of those things where I'm like,
• 1:15:40
  what is what exactly is this end goal? Like what
• 1:15:42
  is the purpose of this guy? And I wish that
• 1:15:44
  there was maybe something that made a bit of sense
• 1:15:47
  in that way.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: I think I'm okay with no purpose per se, because
• 1:15:52
  you can imagine it as like a curse maybe that
• 1:15:54
  befell people. You could imagine it as like maybe it's
• 1:15:58
  some kind of like maybe it's a demon that just
• 1:16:01
  does this to like random victims or something like that.
• 1:16:04
  I don't think it needs a purpose per se. I
• 1:16:07
  think maybe it needs it needs a finale.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Do you mean by that it just needs better closure
• 1:16:14
  than being like, oh, we know book up and he
• 1:16:16
  was gone.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: The more so there needs to be a final step
• 1:16:21
  I think after the five years. Maybe even if it's
• 1:16:24
  something as simple as like there's a room carved on
• 1:16:26
  the door, I mean maybe that makes it too expressly
• 1:16:29
  old world deity. Maybe maybe like when the five of
• 1:16:34
  them leave they all have like a branding, they wake
• 1:16:36
  up with a branding on their chest or something. It's
• 1:16:38
  something that implies like a finality too, yeah, because otherwise
• 1:16:42
  it makes it seem like Tommy in the last week
• 1:16:45
  was like, well, I guess I'll just you know, wait
• 1:16:46
  out my tenure and then I'm onto another house into this,
• 1:16:50
  you know if.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: You've been marked?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by doing that too, it's something too where if
• 1:16:53
  you've been marked, you can never remove the mark. Yeah,
• 1:16:56
  it's permanently on you, which is also kind of leads
• 1:16:59
  back into the trauma thing exactly. It's something that it
• 1:17:02
  was forever staining you, kind of thing I think is interesting. Yeah,
• 1:17:05
  well let me ask you this, is there a way
• 1:17:07
  too where if if you could do if it is
• 1:17:09
  a curse, right, is there a way you could break
• 1:17:11
  the curse?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: See that or something that would be the.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Or like a thing of like you have to do
• 1:17:16
  some kind of ultimate sacrifice to do it. Like I
• 1:17:19
  forgot what show it is, but there's one where it's
• 1:17:20
  like you have to cut off your fingers. You have
• 1:17:22
  to cut off a finger, and it like it counts
• 1:17:25
  as you paying a debt. So if you don't do it,
• 1:17:27
  you have to like do all this stuff. Or you
• 1:17:29
  could just cut off one of your fingers, which you
• 1:17:31
  know and something that isn't it would be hard to
• 1:17:34
  like just be like I'm gonna just cut off my finger,
• 1:17:36
  because you know that would suck. But for something like this,
• 1:17:40
  could there be something better or something where maybe it
• 1:17:42
  is castration, maybe you have to castrate yourself. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:17:44
  I don't know, something with actual weight where you're like,
• 1:17:47
  holy fuck, like that would be hard. Do you think
• 1:17:49
  that would add to the story or do you think
• 1:17:51
  that like it just being a five year curse where
• 1:17:53
  there is no rhyme or reason to it but you
• 1:17:55
  are just a marked one is more horrifying.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: I think it being a five year curse you can't
• 1:17:59
  get out of is a terrifying thing. Again, I just
• 1:18:02
  think there needs to be some kind of like final
• 1:18:04
  swoop to it, not that we have to understand it,
• 1:18:07
  but that it's something that Tommy understands.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: I just picture that his much like a cartoon character.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: His teeth would be it's just like one large chunk,
• 1:18:16
  kind of like a old cartoon network character or something.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, most people depict him as a like a Ken
• 1:18:27
  doll basically. Oh interesting, that's one of the pictures I see.
• 1:18:31
  Are I wonder if.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: The blonde hair thing has to do anything with like
• 1:18:34
  if it's just if that's inspired all by like Jimmy
• 1:18:36
  Saville or whatever, if you remember him at all, but
• 1:18:39
  he was like a notorious child predator in England.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like that.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: I'm glad that we I'm honestly glad we read The
• 1:18:46
  Third Parent first, because then when we were first starting
• 1:18:49
  this we had his name was Tommy. Taffy was the
• 1:18:52
  next one, and that one starts off with some of
• 1:18:54
  you may have read my son's account The Third Parent,
• 1:18:56
  And now it's all from the perspective of the mom,
• 1:18:58
  and that's going to be a lot more interesting of
• 1:19:01
  a read knowing that.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, oh okay, all right, so hold on, Oh my gosh,
• 1:19:07
  all right, So I found Elias, the author Elias with
• 1:19:11
  a row. I found his reddit, right and he has
• 1:19:14
  a compilation of all his stories. He did a short
• 1:19:18
  story a while back that I remember reading called Feed
• 1:19:21
  the Pig, which is like a Feed the Pigs. It's
• 1:19:25
  pretty it's pretty widely regarded. I don't remember all the
• 1:19:28
  details of it. I remember liking it when I was
• 1:19:30
  a kid. It's about like a man walking through hell,
• 1:19:32
  if I remember right, and it was pretty freaky.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I remember.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: So he did Feed the Pig. So I have read
• 1:19:38
  his work before, and it turns out, looking at his subreddit,
• 1:19:42
  there are four parts to the Tommy Taffy series, with
• 1:19:46
  what we just read being part one and then part
• 1:19:48
  two being the prequel that we started on.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Earlier little intermission here, so we are now going into
• 1:19:54
  his name was Tommy Taffy. This is now the prequel
• 1:19:57
  to the third parent, which this is all from the perspective,
• 1:20:01
  like you were saying from the father of the last story,
• 1:20:04
  who is the most hated character in creepcast history. I'm
• 1:20:07
  already calling.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: It definitely the most hated. I mean like equal level
• 1:20:10
  of evil as some mentioned, but not surely as annoying.
• 1:20:14
  I agree, yeah, yeah, And I will say about the
• 1:20:16
  first story, great writing from Elias Witherow just like I said,
• 1:20:20
  just like a tweak about some stuff at the ending.
• 1:20:22
  Other than that, just stellar, very.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Good, amazing ending. One of the most powerful last couple
• 1:20:27
  of lines from some of the stuff we've read.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: Because I didn't even think about that.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't even consider.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: That demon, like, it didn't cross my mind, all the
• 1:20:34
  chaotic stuff happening that whenever that came back in, it
• 1:20:37
  was just like another huge blow to the chest.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: It's just like a hard pitch straight to the chest. Yeah,
• 1:20:42
  it's insane.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: So we're now on to the part two, which is
• 1:20:46
  a prequel of the story effectively called His name was
• 1:20:49
  Tommy Taffy. So some of you may have read my
• 1:20:52
  son's account the Third Parent about what happened regarding the
• 1:20:55
  monster Tommy Taffy. After reading it, after crying over it,
• 1:21:00
  I felt compelled to write this. I'm not here to
• 1:21:02
  defend my actions. You're not here to make excuses.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: Yes you are.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: I did what I had to so that my family
• 1:21:09
  would survive.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: No, you didn't.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: I knew what Tommy was capable of. I knew what
• 1:21:15
  we'd have to endure.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: Fuck you.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: The first thing I say, I'm like, fuck you.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: Get him off the stage.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: So help me.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: God.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: If he sways me too, I'm gonna be so upset.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: But I also knew that if we could make it
• 1:21:30
  five years without pissing off Tommy Taffy, we come out
• 1:21:33
  of the nightmare alive. How did I know that because
• 1:21:36
  I'd already lived it. I'd already been exposed to what
• 1:21:39
  that thing was capable of. I had seen Tommy's temper,
• 1:21:44
  had seen what pushed his buttons. I'd already done my
• 1:21:48
  five years. Like I said, I'm not here to defend myself.
• 1:21:52
  What happened to my family is unspeakable, but we are alive. No. Instead,
• 1:21:57
  I'm writing this so you can understand why I did
• 1:22:00
  what I did. That's what an explanation is. Why chose
• 1:22:04
  to let Tommy do what he did to my wife
• 1:22:06
  and children? After you hear my side, after you read
• 1:22:09
  what I went through, then you can judge me.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: God knows I deserve it. I can judge you already
• 1:22:14
  for your actions.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: Dude that struck as those like Facebook post girls will do.
• 1:22:20
  That'll be like only God can judge me, you.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: Know, Like, yeah, say whatever, dude.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: Tommy first arrived on my street when I was seven.
• 1:22:29
  I was an only child. And lived with both my
• 1:22:30
  parents in a middle class neighborhood. It was a mellow
• 1:22:33
  slice of the American dream, like a cut of apple
• 1:22:36
  pie under a smothering layer of vanilla ice cream.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Fuck you.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Also, I want to say, do you think he was
• 1:22:41
  more surprised too? Because our Matt in the original story
• 1:22:44
  was six? So do you think that they were surprised
• 1:22:46
  because maybe they were like, he shouldn't be coming for
• 1:22:48
  another year if he was seven?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: I understand. How So, the only way I fully think
• 1:22:54
  that Spence knew Tommy Taffy was coming for his kids
• 1:22:59
  is if something happened in this story where an adult
• 1:23:01
  tells him, oh, he comes every so and so years whatever. Right,
• 1:23:05
  if this was his only interaction, I would almost understand
• 1:23:08
  being like, oh, well, I guess that just happened once, right,
• 1:23:12
  Like you don't know. It's generational.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be people on the street that
• 1:23:16
  are like, oh, well, they're gonna I feel like the
• 1:23:17
  rules are going to be explained to others and it's
• 1:23:19
  passed on to him.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: And that knowledge probably anything is going to happen.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: I got to say this, Tommy Taffy's a pretty interesting,
• 1:23:24
  like horror movie creature right, like you mentioned cheaper creepers earlier.
• 1:23:28
  But it does remind me of that a lot, like
• 1:23:30
  generations have to prepare for it and stuff.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think so too. I think I'm very curious.
• 1:23:35
  I mean we saw an IMDb there is a third
• 1:23:37
  Parent film. I don't know if it's super indie or what,
• 1:23:39
  but I wouldn't mind checking it out.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be cool. I'd watch it. Uh, the concept
• 1:23:44
  has me sold. I think it's a terrifying idea, like
• 1:23:46
  he has to live unto. Our street was in a
• 1:23:49
  secluded residential neighborhood in the far corner of our sprawling development.
• 1:23:54
  There were six houses in total, and we were a
• 1:23:56
  tight knit bunch, both the parents and children. In summers
• 1:24:00
  we'd have cookouts and in the winters we'd have Christmas parties.
• 1:24:03
  It was almost like our block was one big family.
• 1:24:06
  Everyone looked out for one another, Everyone was generous and considerate.
• 1:24:10
  It was a different time when people trusted one another.
• 1:24:14
  But our picture perfect life shattered he arrived. I'll never
• 1:24:18
  forget it. We began July nineteen sixty nine. I had
• 1:24:23
  just gone to bed, my seven year old mind exploring
• 1:24:26
  my imagination, turning thought into dream The moon was a
• 1:24:30
  warm slice of yellow in my window, an expanse of
• 1:24:33
  stars winking down at me as I drifted off to sleep.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: Imagine being this descriptive and this flavorful with your text
• 1:24:39
  explaining why you let your children and a wife get
• 1:24:42
  by a monster?
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Hello, what a fucking psychopath.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: I know that my wife and daughter were horribly abused
• 1:24:49
  by this monster. Yeah, my block was like an apple pie,
• 1:24:52
  you'd say, almost like the vanilla seven.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: Year old mind exploring my imagination, tuning salt into dreams. Well,
• 1:25:00
  I'm sack and yellow. It's like, shut the fuck up, dude, God.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: I I hate him so much.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: I could hear the TV in the living room, a
• 1:25:09
  comforting reminder that my parents were still awake and the
• 1:25:12
  monster's under my bed would stay away tonight. That's when
• 1:25:15
  I bolted awake via a knock at the front door downstairs.
• 1:25:19
  It was such a sharp contrast to the comforting murmur
• 1:25:21
  of the TV that my mind went on full alert
• 1:25:23
  as the noise echoed in the house, set up in bed,
• 1:25:26
  irritated clutching growls my teddy bear. I heard the heavy
• 1:25:30
  footsteps of my father walked to the door, probably expecting
• 1:25:33
  a neighbor the familiar creek. If the front door was
• 1:25:36
  followed by the muted murmur of conversation. Could hear my
• 1:25:39
  father's voice speaking, interrupted on occasion by another male voice
• 1:25:43
  I didn't recognize. My mother joined the conversation, and I
• 1:25:46
  could hear my father getting angry. Okay, so it sounds
• 1:25:49
  like here his father does not know who Tommy is.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't think so. And he's having an
• 1:25:53
  actual rational response to it. And we do know from
• 1:25:55
  the previous stories.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: You can't come in my house. What are you talking about?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, and we know from the previous story that
• 1:26:01
  the dad died doing whatever. So I'm hoping that, yeah,
• 1:26:08
  I'm hoping.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: Minutes stretched on, as the mysterious late night visitor continued
• 1:26:12
  to talk with my parents, I slid out of bed
• 1:26:14
  and went to my bedroom door, peeking my head out
• 1:26:17
  to listen. I still couldn't make out the words, but
• 1:26:19
  I could tell my father was getting furious, started yelling,
• 1:26:22
  and I heard him demand that the visitor leave our
• 1:26:24
  house or he was calling the police. It got very
• 1:26:27
  quiet then, so quiet I could hear my heart beating
• 1:26:29
  in my chest. Then I heard my mother began to cry.
• 1:26:33
  It was soft, so soft, but it scared me. The
• 1:26:37
  nighttime visitor was saying something to my parents, his voice low.
• 1:26:41
  My mother continued to sob. After a moment, my father
• 1:26:45
  said something I couldn't make out. Immediately following, I heard
• 1:26:49
  something slamming the while downstairs so hard the pictures in
• 1:26:52
  the hallway crashed to the floor. Slipped a hand over
• 1:26:55
  my mouth to stifle a scream. Heart racing what was
• 1:26:59
  going on? My mother let out a pitiful noise, and
• 1:27:02
  I could hear her pleading with someone. There was a
• 1:27:05
  scramble of feet, and then another loud bang against the wall.
• 1:27:09
  Intruder was saying something to my parents, his voice oozing
• 1:27:12
  with authority. I strained to make out the words, but
• 1:27:15
  it came to me in a jumble of soft noise.
• 1:27:18
  After another couple of minutes of agonizing fear, I heard
• 1:27:21
  my father call down for me. My heart was a
• 1:27:23
  wild drum beat on my chest, and I bit my lip,
• 1:27:26
  a hand shaking. Why did he want me? What was happening?
• 1:27:31
  My father called again, his voice trembling slightly.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: It kind of reads like Tommy is mimicking his dad's voice.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I see that. Slowly, I pulled
• 1:27:41
  the door to my bedroom open and walked to the
• 1:27:43
  edge of the stairs. I realized I was clutching growls
• 1:27:46
  my teddy bear. I could feel the soft of its
• 1:27:48
  fur growing damp. I looked down the stairs to the
• 1:27:51
  front door, and I froze, eyes going wide. My father
• 1:27:54
  was scripping his throat, wincing tears in his eyes, something
• 1:27:58
  I'd never seen before. My mother had her arms wrapped
• 1:28:01
  around herself, moisture stain in her cheeks. But that wasn't
• 1:28:06
  what captured my attention. It was the stranger standing next
• 1:28:09
  to my parents, staring up at me. He was in
• 1:28:13
  his early thirties and wore a white T shirt which
• 1:28:15
  red and red fought high. His hair was blonde and
• 1:28:19
  cut short. His two blue eyes pools of glowing brilliance
• 1:28:21
  set in a sea of snow. And then I noticed
• 1:28:24
  the oddities of this intruder. His skin was impossibly smooth, clean,
• 1:28:28
  pink sheen of absolute perfection. His nose wasn't so much
• 1:28:31
  a nose as it was a nub jutting out of
• 1:28:33
  his face. His lips were twisted in a smile and
• 1:28:36
  revealing white strips where his teeth should have been hei spin,
• 1:28:40
  he called up to me, his voice cheerful.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: I'm Tommy, Taffy. I'm going to be staying with you
• 1:28:45
  for a while.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: Clutched growls to my chest, quivering, begging my parents for guidance. Instead,
• 1:28:51
  they cast their eyes to the floor, clearly shaken. I
• 1:28:55
  didn't know what was happening. Would have been said between them,
• 1:28:58
  but I could feel danger in the air, thick and malicious.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: Come on down here so I can get a good.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: Look at you, Tommy said, waving me forward. My father's
• 1:29:08
  eyes suddenly met mine, and I gulped. Even at that age,
• 1:29:11
  I could interpret the look he passed on to me.
• 1:29:14
  Be careful, son. Cautiously, I walked down the stairs, never
• 1:29:18
  letting go of my bear. When I reached the foot
• 1:29:21
  of the stairs, my mother reached out for me, but
• 1:29:23
  Tommy stepped in front of her, smiling down at me.
• 1:29:26
  He squat down and ruffled my hair, his immaculate skin
• 1:29:29
  looking almost polished and waxed at this proximity.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: Cute little fella, aren't you? Oh who's that you got?
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: He asked, gesture into my bear.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: H his name's growls.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: Tommy grinned, of course, he is.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna help your parents for a while. So I'd
• 1:29:48
  liked the three of us to be friends. Me, you
• 1:29:51
  and Growls. You thinn't that be okay?
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: Again? I looked at my parents for help, Confused and shaken,
• 1:29:58
  I had no idea what was going on. Who this was,
• 1:30:01
  why my parents look so scared. He seemed nice enough,
• 1:30:04
  but the way my father rubbed his throat told me otherwise.
• 1:30:08
  Boo boo, Tommy chuckled, knocking gently on my head.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: Hey, I asked you a question, Spence. What what did
• 1:30:18
  you do to my daddy?
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: I whispered, immediately, wishing I hadn't. Tommy's mouth remained a
• 1:30:24
  frozen smile, but his eyes darkened ever so slightly. My
• 1:30:30
  father reached out and grasped my shoulder.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 9: Spence, Son, it's okay. I'll talk to you a later
• 1:30:37
  about it. For a now, Tommy's going to He's going
• 1:30:42
  to He's going to.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: Stay with us.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: And that was the start of a five year stretch.
• 1:30:47
  I can never forget, okay. So here's my theory. The
• 1:30:50
  dad sees the guy at the door and is like,
• 1:30:52
  what the heck you know, get out, I'm calling the police. Whatever,
• 1:30:55
  and says the mom starts crying. I bet the mom
• 1:30:58
  experienced Tommy.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Oh and she and she had told him about him
• 1:31:02
  once before, Yeah, in the past. And I wonder if
• 1:31:04
  he's like, oh, I know who this is from what
• 1:31:06
  your mom says exactly.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: I think that's why it said he shot a look
• 1:31:09
  at my mother because the dad had a normal reaction.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: He slammed the mom and the dad, right or did
• 1:31:14
  he just slam I think it's just the dad.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: I think I think the dad was fighting and he
• 1:31:18
  just kept picking him up and throwing him into the wall.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like by his throat or whatever. Like maybe me
• 1:31:24
  tried pushing him. He just grabbed him and threw them
• 1:31:25
  into the wall.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: A few days pass and soon I learned through whispered inquiries,
• 1:31:30
  Tommy Taffy had visited everyone on our street. He was
• 1:31:33
  in our home, but also in theirs. I learned this
• 1:31:36
  from my eventual wife, Megan, who lived across the street
• 1:31:38
  from me. She told me that some strange guy was
• 1:31:41
  living in their house. After she described him, I deducted
• 1:31:45
  it was one and the same Tommy Taffy. I will
• 1:31:49
  say I know that this story was referenced in the
• 1:31:52
  first part, but this is a cool sequel because it
• 1:31:55
  goes it's you know, it honestly reminds me of aliens,
• 1:31:57
  and that it goes from like a singular instance to
• 1:32:00
  like several.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is something too where if the character,
• 1:32:04
  depending on how one note he is, it could be
• 1:32:06
  something to where it's just like he could be anywhere
• 1:32:09
  all the time generationally.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: How does this thing just go about through the years.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like it like it's like a gin or something
• 1:32:16
  a malicious deah. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't understand how it
• 1:32:21
  was possible, but new to keep my mouth shut. Tommy
• 1:32:24
  had sworn me to secrecy. He swore everyone to secrecy.
• 1:32:28
  This was enforced by my parents, who told me in
• 1:32:30
  hushed whispers to never tell anyone about Tommy. I could
• 1:32:33
  tell everyone feared him. I did too. There was something
• 1:32:37
  unsettling about his constant smile, his slightly off features, and
• 1:32:41
  the cool enunciated way he spoke and laughed. I didn't
• 1:32:46
  know what he had told my parents to keep them
• 1:32:47
  from going to the police, why they were allowing him
• 1:32:50
  to live in our home, But it must have been terrible.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: I do wonder what he would have said, right well,
• 1:32:56
  I mean, I yeah, because if This is like, if
• 1:32:58
  some of these people are like a pay zero of sorts, right,
• 1:33:01
  or at least like they never knew about it as kids,
• 1:33:04
  then what could Tommy have said to them that made
• 1:33:07
  them just like live with it? Right?
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't expect every family to act the same too.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: There are probably some guy who's like, this is totally
• 1:33:15
  acceptable and get killed right away. Yeah. So I don't know,
• 1:33:18
  he has to he has to say something to lure them. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:33:22
  silence them.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: I guess we were a hostage in our own house.
• 1:33:26
  Of course, Tommy didn't keep us there, but we knew
• 1:33:29
  he would be waiting. Once we came back at night.
• 1:33:32
  Tommy would sit us down and give us life lessons.
• 1:33:35
  He would tell us how to be good people, how
• 1:33:37
  to love one another. I remember one time during the
• 1:33:40
  first week, I looked up my front window across the
• 1:33:42
  street in a Megan's living room, I saw Tommy there
• 1:33:46
  speaking to her family on the couch. The Tommy in
• 1:33:49
  front of my family stopped speaking immediately and stared long
• 1:33:52
  and hard at me. Ooh. Then he went to the
• 1:33:55
  window and closed the curtains before continuing. Yo, that's screepy,
• 1:34:00
  that's pretty cool. Yeah, Like I love that visual. It's
• 1:34:02
  just you and Tommy. And then when you perceive another Tommy,
• 1:34:06
  your Tommy just like like big eye stares, like drops
• 1:34:09
  it shuts the window. Yeah that's cool. That's cool. Yeah. Okay,
• 1:34:13
  this is a pretty good sequel so far, because it's
• 1:34:15
  building off of concepts built in the first one without
• 1:34:17
  pulling away the punch right, without like giving the monster away.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting to see what Tommy does and how that differs. Yeah,
• 1:34:25
  because if it's the same thing over again, then I'm
• 1:34:27
  gonna be I think disappointed.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: Uh. I think it'd be fine if it starts as
• 1:34:31
  the same thing, but I think the multiple Tommies may
• 1:34:34
  lead into something interesting.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: Well, so I'm hoping.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. During the evenings, as the fathers on our street
• 1:34:40
  came home from work, I'd see them meet briefly in
• 1:34:42
  the road, muttering to each other and casting looks over
• 1:34:45
  their shoulders. There was a mutual terror shared between them,
• 1:34:49
  an unspoken knowledge that they had to keep Tommy's secret,
• 1:34:52
  that getting the police involved itud only lead to well,
• 1:34:55
  nothing good. I imagine upon arrival that Tommy threatened our
• 1:34:59
  family and then showed some sign of physical dominance over
• 1:35:01
  the men. I remembered the banging against the walls and
• 1:35:04
  the way my father had gripped his throat. But what
• 1:35:07
  the hell did he say to them? Why did they
• 1:35:09
  allow him to invest our homes? Well? A month later
• 1:35:13
  I found out they were plotting against Tommy. They were
• 1:35:16
  going to kill him. Hm cool based based cool awesome dads. Yeah,
• 1:35:22
  that's more like it. August nineteen sixty nine. Again, I
• 1:35:27
  was awoken from slumber. I looked at my spider Man
• 1:35:29
  clock and saw it was after midnight. I scrubbed sleep
• 1:35:32
  from my eyes, grasping in the dark for growls. As
• 1:35:35
  I found my bear, I heard banging from downstairs, along
• 1:35:38
  with several voices. I slipped out of bed and went
• 1:35:41
  to my door. The light downstairs were off, but I
• 1:35:44
  saw beams of light cutting through the black flashlights. I
• 1:35:48
  called out from my parents, but saw their bedroom door
• 1:35:50
  was wide open. I knew they weren't in bed. Then
• 1:35:53
  more voices from downstairs followed, along with scraping against the
• 1:35:56
  hardwood floors. I jumped as a bang shook the night,
• 1:35:59
  and then the voices faded. Oh like a gunshot, I imagine.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's people going into the basement, I thought, frightened.
• 1:36:08
  Our basement was unfinished, an expanse of empty cement. Why
• 1:36:11
  are they going into the basement, I thought, silently, assuming
• 1:36:15
  my parents were down there, I crept to the first floor,
• 1:36:18
  clutching growls to my chest. Sure enough, the basement door
• 1:36:21
  was open, and I saw light reflecting off the dusty floor.
• 1:36:25
  I could hear my father's voice, and then the familiar
• 1:36:27
  voices of our neighbors. They were speaking to someone. They
• 1:36:30
  were angry. My heart froze in my chest to someone
• 1:36:33
  laugh from the depths of the cellar. Making sure to
• 1:36:40
  not make a sound, I slunk to the open door
• 1:36:42
  and descended the first two steps to look out at
• 1:36:44
  the scene below me. Tommy was bound to a metal
• 1:36:47
  chair in the middle of the room, surrounded by the
• 1:36:49
  six pairs of parents that lived in our neighborhood. Their
• 1:36:51
  backs were to me, but I could see Tommy's flawless
• 1:36:53
  face gazing up at them. Megan's father was there, his
• 1:36:56
  face a mass of bruises and swollen flesh. His arm
• 1:36:59
  was in a sling, and it looked like his shoulders
• 1:37:01
  like his back was in pain. I sucked into breath
• 1:37:04
  as I realized one of the men was passing my
• 1:37:06
  father a pistol. The women stood by their husbands with
• 1:37:09
  grim looks on their faces. There's no disagreement among the executioners. Yeah,
• 1:37:16
  what a cool line. I love that. I'm just hype
• 1:37:18
  about the idea of like you know, the women understand.
• 1:37:21
  But the men referred to as executioners, there's no disagreement
• 1:37:24
  among no.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Doubt in the mind that they're all like this motherfucker.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: Has yeah, kill it, kill it right now.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so cool.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: It's time you leave our lives, one.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: Of the men said, looming over Tommy. I recognized him
• 1:37:35
  as my friend Luke's father. Well, if two houses down.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: This is your last chance.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: Tommy didn't even struggle in his rope bindings, that ever
• 1:37:43
  present smile still on his face. He looked up at them,
• 1:37:46
  the overhead light illuminating his sparkling blue eyes.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. I'm just trying to help all. If
• 1:37:52
  you raise your children.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: Properly, I'm not going anywhere.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: A look passed between the parents, and then my father
• 1:37:59
  put the gun to Tom's head.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: You're not helping anyone. You're a monster. You can't come
• 1:38:06
  into our homes.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: And threaten our children, threaten our lives.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: That's not how this works. All the threats you whispered
• 1:38:11
  to us while we were caught off guard. We'll look
• 1:38:14
  at you now.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: My father spat on him.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: Pathetic. Now you'll get yours.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: My father shot him in the head. What a gee,
• 1:38:24
  what a guy? Just bare Grandpa, Grandpa, Grandpa.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: I love it school.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: The report was deafening, and I almost screamed, slamming my
• 1:38:33
  head over my mouth. At the last second, Tommy's head
• 1:38:36
  whipped back as the smell of gunsmoke spiked the air.
• 1:38:39
  It was silent for a moment, and then, in horror,
• 1:38:43
  I watched this Tommy slowly raise his head to stare
• 1:38:46
  back up at my father. What the hell, one of
• 1:38:49
  the women breathed, her voice shaking. There's no blood, no
• 1:38:52
  shatter of bone, nothing, just a dark circle in Tommy's
• 1:38:56
  forehead where the bullet had passed.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: What the fuck are you.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: Someone whispered. Tommy's eyes spun to the man who had spoken.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: I'm Tommy Tavy and I'm not going anywhere.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: My mother suddenly pointed the corner of the room, her
• 1:39:10
  hand trembling.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: Gass, get the gas, make it.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: His mother went to the far corner of the room
• 1:39:16
  and picked up a small red can. I could hear
• 1:39:18
  the slash of gasoline, and I smelled it in the air.
• 1:39:21
  My father grabbed the can from her hand, his eyed
• 1:39:23
  wide and never leaving Tommy without a word, he up
• 1:39:26
  ended it over the bound man, soaking him. Tommy kept smiling.
• 1:39:34
  Another father passed my dad a box of matches. My
• 1:39:38
  father struck one, his hand hovering in the air.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: Go back to Hell, leave us all alone.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care if it's over the top. I
• 1:39:45
  love the dialogue of the grandpa. That's awesome. Go back
• 1:39:48
  to Hell, that's awesome. Tommy grinned wider.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: Hell. It's gonna seem like a fantasy one. I come
• 1:39:55
  back for you.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: That's a sick yeah, the way he phrases it too,
• 1:40:04
  when I come back.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: My father dropped the match and Tommy burst in the plane.
• 1:40:12
  He did it, scream, he did it, thrash. He simply burned.
• 1:40:17
  As his face began to melt, his eyes shifted and
• 1:40:19
  suddenly he saw me. Man.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: So she's just picturing his like eyes and his like
• 1:40:27
  wax face, just kind of.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's like dissolving and the laugh like there,
• 1:40:34
  the laugh directed at him is like the kids shouldn't
• 1:40:36
  have seen this. Right now, He's made a mistake. Heart
• 1:40:40
  exploded in my throat. I fled back to my room,
• 1:40:43
  tears streaming down my face. From the safety of my bed,
• 1:40:46
  I eventually heard the neighbors leaving relief in their voices.
• 1:40:50
  Two weeks later, Tommy came back. Oh shit, so man,
• 1:40:54
  okay for one. I love this prequel. This is great.
• 1:40:58
  This is a great setup. I love the direction, love
• 1:41:00
  the descriptions, all that stuff. Dialogue is sick. Dialogue sick.
• 1:41:03
  It's fun, it's cool. It honestly does feel like Aliens
• 1:41:06
  in the way so far. It goes from like you know,
• 1:41:08
  the horror to action almost but while still keeping a
• 1:41:10
  horrific tone. I really like it.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: I like how Tommy is. I don't know, like he's
• 1:41:15
  like this is going to sound weird. I guess he's
• 1:41:16
  a lot more manifested than this one. Like, I like,
• 1:41:18
  he's a lot more to Yeah, Yeah, they're doing more
• 1:41:20
  with him. He isn't just like this omnipotent spirit like
• 1:41:23
  it's like he is, but they are interacting with him
• 1:41:26
  in a more fun way.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can touch him more so.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: Also two weeks later, that is a crazy long respawn time,
• 1:41:36
  you can you can just kill him every two weeks.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, let's see. I'm curious to see what happens.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: September nineteen sixty nine, we were eating supper, a sense
• 1:41:45
  of normalcy, returning to our home. My parents never told
• 1:41:48
  me they had murdered Tommy, instead opting to inform me
• 1:41:50
  that his visit was over and he went back home.
• 1:41:55
  I still caught whiffs of gasoline about our house, but
• 1:41:57
  kept my mouth shut. I was just happy my family
• 1:41:59
  was okay. Some was setting and the dying orange light
• 1:42:02
  filtered in through the living room window, stretching out across
• 1:42:05
  the floor to cover the dinner table. My mother and
• 1:42:08
  father set at opposite ends of the table, chatting about
• 1:42:10
  their days.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: I could tell they were still.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: Shaking, but I admired the way they were trying to
• 1:42:14
  return their lives to what it had been before Tommy
• 1:42:16
  showed up. Also, that's so cool, the idea of like
• 1:42:19
  a husband and wife were like, yeah, we burnt this
• 1:42:21
  guy to death in our basement. Anyway, how was your day?
• 1:42:24
  How is work? Like?
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: Well, they're just strong parents too, and like that's the
• 1:42:27
  thing is, like they're they understand the what's best for
• 1:42:30
  their child.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: They told him what good does it do to He's
• 1:42:33
  not gonna help burden with that, you know what I mean?
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're cool, Like I love the grandparents. As
• 1:42:38
  I shoveled mashed potatoes into my mouth, the front door
• 1:42:41
  exploded open. It about around, jumping as the wood splintered
• 1:42:44
  and the hinges creaked. I dropped my fork, eyes growing wide.
• 1:42:48
  It was Tommy and he looked furious. Ooh, what does
• 1:42:52
  that look like? What does he furious look like? You know?
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd almost I almost think that it's just like
• 1:42:58
  no smile. Still, I don't know, so I was just
• 1:43:02
  I almost picture Tommy's mouth can actually not physically close
• 1:43:05
  in a weird way. Yeah, like it's always a half
• 1:43:08
  open smile. I agree, Yeah, like he was like an
• 1:43:10
  action figure. There's no way, like he just is like
• 1:43:13
  I don't know, yeah, yeah. My parents' mouth dropped in unison.
• 1:43:17
  But before they could speak, Tommy marched towards us with
• 1:43:19
  alarming speed and ump into the kitchen table.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: Dishes filled with food shattered to the floor. My father
• 1:43:24
  half rose for you're paralyzing him. Without a word, Tommy
• 1:43:27
  grabbed my father by the neck and dragged him to
• 1:43:29
  the wall, where he plowed his face through the sheet rock.
• 1:43:33
  My mother screamed and ran to aid my dad, but
• 1:43:35
  Tommy spun on her and punched her in the teeth,
• 1:43:37
  sending her crash into the floor. Feeling my bladder go panic,
• 1:43:41
  clawing at my throat, I watched this. Tommy pulled my
• 1:43:44
  father's bloody head from the wall. Sputtering dazed, my father
• 1:43:48
  tried to release himself from Tommy's iron grip, but it
• 1:43:51
  did no good. His eyes dark and his mouth clamped
• 1:43:54
  in a snarl. Tommy clamped a hand over my father's
• 1:43:57
  throat and dragged him into the living room without stopping,
• 1:44:01
  he threw him through the window and out into the
• 1:44:03
  front yard. I was a mess of tears and terror.
• 1:44:06
  It stop bubbling from my nose. As Tommy turned back
• 1:44:08
  to my mother and I now he was smiling. He
• 1:44:13
  went to my son mother and hauled her up.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: You're gonna need this, You're gonna need to see.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: This, he said darkly, his lips curled in a grin.
• 1:44:22
  He looked at me and jerked his head towards the door.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: Come on, spence, you too.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: He pulled my mother to the front door and pushed
• 1:44:29
  her outside. I had it moved, my face frozen in
• 1:44:32
  a silent scream. Tommy looked over his shoulder and winked
• 1:44:35
  at me.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: Don't make me ask again, sport Oh, and bring that
• 1:44:39
  broom behind you.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: Pulled off my chair by fear, I got up and
• 1:44:43
  dutifully grabbed the kitchen broom and walked it to Tommy, my
• 1:44:46
  pants wreaking of urine. Tommy put a hand on my
• 1:44:49
  shoulder and guided me outside to stand by our mailbox.
• 1:44:52
  I saw my father rolling in the grass, a mess
• 1:44:54
  of blood and glass, my mother kneeling before him, weeping.
• 1:44:59
  Our neighbors were I'm out of their houses, eyes wide,
• 1:45:01
  shocking looks of horror on their face. As they saw.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: Tommy gather around.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: He yelled, motioning for them to come closer.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: Look at what you've done.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: I saw Megan at a doorstep across the street, face
• 1:45:13
  a pale sheet of snow. She looked at me, and
• 1:45:16
  I saw her begin to cry, burying her face in
• 1:45:18
  her hands. Shocked into obedience, our neighbors came and stood
• 1:45:22
  around our tiny front lawn by the street all eyes
• 1:45:25
  on my father and mother. This is your fault, Tommy said,
• 1:45:30
  meeting every one of their terrified faces. Suddenly snatched the
• 1:45:34
  broom from my hands. In what quick motion he snapped
• 1:45:37
  the head off, tossed the duster aside, and advanced on
• 1:45:41
  my father, gripping the splintered pole. My mother screamed to
• 1:45:45
  cover her bleeding husband with her body, but Tommy booted
• 1:45:47
  her in the face, wrenching my heart in the process.
• 1:45:51
  Ump me go, Tommy growled, pulling my father up by
• 1:45:54
  the hair onto his knees, glashed jutting from his face.
• 1:45:57
  My father looked up at Tommy, agony in his eyes.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: Don't worry, I'll take good care of your son.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: He raised the broken broom over his head like a
• 1:46:07
  spear and slammed it into my father's mouth, down his
• 1:46:10
  throat until it erupted from his stomach and plunged into
• 1:46:13
  the earth. Bloodshot like a geyser out of my father
• 1:46:16
  and splattered Tommy's perfect features. My mother howled, her bloodshot
• 1:46:21
  eyes rattling in their sockets, as my father gasped and
• 1:46:24
  then died, his lips wrapping around the broom handled jutting
• 1:46:28
  from his mouth. The neighbors watching were paralyzed, a few
• 1:46:32
  of the women crying out at the sudden display of
• 1:46:35
  brutal violence. The men's faces were pale and shocked into silence.
• 1:46:38
  Megan's father leaning over and emptying his stomach onto the road,
• 1:46:43
  blood dripping from his face. Tommy turned to face them,
• 1:46:46
  eyes of light.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: I want you to think about this moment the next
• 1:46:49
  time you want to have a bonfire.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 4: Do I make myself crystal clear?
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: All eyes were trained to the impaled figure of my
• 1:46:56
  father into the.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 4: Earth, I said, do I make myself clear?
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: Tommy repeated, the smile dropping from his face. Everyone slowly nodded,
• 1:47:05
  every eye wet with tears and wide with horror. Tommy
• 1:47:09
  threw a thumb over his shoulder.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Now get rid of him. I need to put his
• 1:47:13
  son to bed.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: I took a step back, tears flowing freely from my eyes,
• 1:47:17
  shaking to the core, unable to stop staring at my
• 1:47:20
  dead father. My world swam and rocked, my vision a
• 1:47:23
  streaking blur of color. I felt like I was going
• 1:47:27
  to throw up, pass out, scream until I couldn't breathe anymore.
• 1:47:30
  Tommy was suddenly looming over me, sweeping me up in
• 1:47:33
  his arms. He pressed my shocked face into his shoulder
• 1:47:36
  and stroked my hair. As we went into the house
• 1:47:39
  and up to my bedroom, heard a rumble in Tommy's chest. Yo, damn,
• 1:47:50
  what a crazy scene. Yeah, a front yard of execution
• 1:47:56
  with the pole next time you want to have a bonfire?
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: Like, man, who, good god?
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: What was that? What's that part about? There was a
• 1:48:04
  rumble in Tommy's chest.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just wondering if it's supposed to be like
• 1:48:08
  his laugh is coming Like, I'm wondering if it's supposed
• 1:48:11
  to be something kind of uncanny, Like it's not coming
• 1:48:13
  out of his mouth.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: It's almost like it's this thing inside.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: I see what you're saying.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Or it could just be that his ears to
• 1:48:20
  his chest and just like the vibrado from his like
• 1:48:22
  he could just hear him giggling like he didn't see it.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: He just heard him laughing.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: Man, Tommy is a terrifying villain. It reminds me of
• 1:48:31
  like at its peak, like the way the Boys did
• 1:48:33
  Homelander and like you know, like he can just kill
• 1:48:36
  you every once and no one can do anything about it,
• 1:48:38
  or like uh again, at its peak, Megan during The
• 1:48:41
  Walking Dead like you have these characters who can do
• 1:48:43
  whatever they want, whenever they want, and everyone just has
• 1:48:46
  to stand there, you know, yeah, which I think makes
• 1:48:48
  incredibly imposing villains. It's very scary.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the it's the false sense of security with
• 1:48:54
  the fake facade of happiness. Yeah, and then immediately you're like, hey,
• 1:48:58
  but don't forget. Then then they always like they peak.
• 1:49:02
  You're able to peek behind the curtain a bit every
• 1:49:03
  once in a while, and it's like, hey about by
• 1:49:05
  the way, I'm a psychopath.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: What's up? Part? Do I make myself clear? You know,
• 1:49:09
  like that whole way.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: And make myself crystal clear? It's like so demeaning.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh, you must not have heard
• 1:49:15
  me the first time. Allow me to retort and like
• 1:49:17
  skewers his dad, you know.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: Oh wow. Also here too. The next one is in
• 1:49:22
  June nineteen seventy three, so this is a four year
• 1:49:24
  time jump.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: Here, How do I describe the following three and a
• 1:49:27
  half years. Words don't can't make you understand what life
• 1:49:31
  was like for my mother and I. My father's murder
• 1:49:34
  was covered up by the neighborhood, and my mother just
• 1:49:36
  right the crippling pain it must have brought her. When
• 1:49:39
  the police eventually came to investigate on request from his job,
• 1:49:42
  story had already been carefully collaborated by the families. They
• 1:49:45
  told the police that my father had been cheated on
• 1:49:47
  my mother and she had found out and then kicked
• 1:49:49
  him out. Lies about arguments heard were told, along with
• 1:49:52
  a few scenarios where the neighbors quote, saw my father
• 1:49:55
  sneaking out late at night.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: Man, that's sad. Yeah, that's horrible. What so that's also
• 1:50:00
  I was saying, do you think Tommy had anything to
• 1:50:02
  do with that? Fabrication of that story?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: This is what you're gonna know, because it's the most believable,
• 1:50:06
  I think, for a group of people to come up with,
• 1:50:08
  because if you say, you know it was some kind
• 1:50:10
  of murder, the police are going to investigate. They're going
• 1:50:12
  to keep looking. You need them out of the houses.
• 1:50:14
  The scenario of a wife saying he was cheating on me,
• 1:50:17
  and everyone else saying, yeah, we saw signs of it.
• 1:50:20
  That makes sense of like, okay, I guess he just
• 1:50:22
  ran off somewhere. It was also the nineteen seventy, so
• 1:50:24
  it was more feasible you could do something like that.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna hear that, and they're just making okay.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a right. That was good. He's left ditchtown. It
• 1:50:32
  was enough to get the police off our street. They
• 1:50:34
  saw the pain in my mother's eyes, but misinterpreted the source.
• 1:50:38
  Everyone was petrified of Tommy Taffy, the lies told in
• 1:50:42
  order to assure safety of themselves and their families. An example,
• 1:50:46
  I'd been given a lesson learned. Listen to Tommy Taffy,
• 1:50:50
  do what he wants, pray, and one day he'd go
• 1:50:53
  away and leave our broken community. My father wasn't the
• 1:50:57
  only one who had been punished. I know. It's a
• 1:50:59
  couple of the neighbors supporting broken limbs or bruised faces.
• 1:51:02
  I can't even imagine the lies they told the outside
• 1:51:04
  world to cover up the truth. Tommy was a haunting
• 1:51:07
  nightmare in our lives, and we could find no way
• 1:51:10
  to get rid of him. The nightly lessons resumed, just
• 1:51:14
  my mother and I now sitting on the couch, listening
• 1:51:16
  to our captor explain how to be good people. I
• 1:51:20
  was ten then, and it made me sick. Age slowly
• 1:51:24
  clarifying just how dismal our situation was, and I kept
• 1:51:28
  my mouth shut. I kept it shut for my mother.
• 1:51:31
  The memory of my father's execution burned bright in my
• 1:51:34
  skull every day. The years that followed my father's death
• 1:51:38
  marked a change in Tommy's habits. He now slept with
• 1:51:42
  my mother every night, leading her to the bed after
• 1:51:45
  I was tucked in and told one last lesson about life.
• 1:51:48
  I would lay awake for hours, listening to her cry
• 1:51:51
  from her room. Man, uh, Dad's dead now, so I'm
• 1:51:56
  going to sleep with your mom.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it'd be for a few moments, other times hours.
• 1:52:05
  He didn't always stay with her through the night, though.
• 1:52:08
  I remember times I'd wake up and he'd be standing
• 1:52:10
  in the dark corner of my room watching me sleep,
• 1:52:13
  his eyes like shining oceans. Other times he'd be staring
• 1:52:17
  at me through the crack of my door. He'd stand
• 1:52:19
  there for hours, just watching. Sometimes I'd wake up and
• 1:52:25
  to him sliding into bed with me, always placing a
• 1:52:29
  cool hand on my thigh, ey heart thundering, fear ripping
• 1:52:36
  apart my insides. I'd always turn away from him, breaking
• 1:52:39
  out in cold sweats, I still had growls, a constant
• 1:52:43
  source of childlike comfort. I'd hug him to my chest,
• 1:52:46
  tears running down my face until either the sun came
• 1:52:49
  up or exhaustion shut my brain down, entered this silently
• 1:52:53
  begging forward to end. Okay, that's so much more effective
• 1:52:56
  than how it was in part one.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: The visual two of him just like standing a peak,
• 1:53:00
  like smiling, looking in, standing there for hours at a
• 1:53:04
  creek door, at a cracked door is just such a
• 1:53:05
  haunting visual.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that works so much better. He's watching
• 1:53:09
  in and then just the mention that he would crawl
• 1:53:12
  into bed with him and touch him on the leg.
• 1:53:14
  That is way more menacing than like the.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: It's still disgusting, yeah, but it's done in a way
• 1:53:19
  where it's palatable.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's palatable, and honestly it's more menacing, right,
• 1:53:25
  just like I said, the scenario played out in the
• 1:53:29
  first one, which honestly I think shows improvement on the rider, right.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: I think it's probably criticism as well, our people being Yeah,
• 1:53:37
  this was so I think, which we don't.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: The story is not over.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: Oh I am looking down at the next paragraph and
• 1:53:46
  I was so wrong. Okay, we have another paragraph where
• 1:53:49
  about a skip. All right, so we'll start reading it
• 1:53:51
  and then we'll do what we did last time.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: July nineteen seventy four. I was eleven. It was the
• 1:53:57
  fifth year to the day since Tommy had entered our lives.
• 1:54:00
  I sat in the living room reading a book while
• 1:54:02
  my mother prepared supper for us. She was pale and gaunt,
• 1:54:06
  the long gears wearing her to the bone. Her eyes
• 1:54:09
  were lifeless these days and had sunk into her sockets.
• 1:54:13
  Her cheekbones pronounced, skin thinly stretching over them. Growls lay
• 1:54:18
  on my chest as I reclined trying to focus on
• 1:54:20
  my book. Tommy was sitting in the chair across from me, watching.
• 1:54:25
  I turned a page and jumped as Tommy spoke.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: You really love that thing, don't you. I turned to Tommy.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: My book.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 3: Tommy shook his head, smiling, No, son, that bear. I
• 1:54:39
  looked at growls on my chest and shrugged uncomfortably. I guess,
• 1:54:44
  so Tommy leaned forward, lacing his fingers together.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: Put your book down, spins.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: Licking my suddenly dry lips. I obeyed. I noticed my
• 1:54:54
  mother was watching from the kitchen, looking alarmed. Do you
• 1:54:58
  know what love means, Tommy asked, filled with growls, eyes downcast.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: It means you care for someone very much. Tommy shook
• 1:55:09
  his head, no, no, good.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: Try.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: He suddenly came and sat next to me, placing a
• 1:55:17
  hand on my leg, caressing it. Yeah, go ahead, read
• 1:55:20
  this next quote.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: No, now, I just read it up.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: I know right. He says something explicit, then says his
• 1:55:29
  mom drops something in the kitchen.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: And then Tommy basically points and says, do you want
• 1:55:34
  to do that explicit thing to your bear? And then
• 1:55:36
  basically he says like, and then he the narrators like
• 1:55:40
  he heard about people doing that thing at school, but
• 1:55:42
  doesn't know what.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: It is, and it says.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: I suddenly jerked my head away and threw growls across
• 1:55:47
  the room, openly sobbing.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: Now I don't love him, I hate him. I hate him.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: I covered my face, ashamed, handshaking. I pulled myself into
• 1:55:56
  a ball and lay there, sobbing. I felt Tommy get
• 1:55:59
  up next to me, turned to my mother.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: It sounds like he's learned his last lesson. I'd be
• 1:56:04
  proud of him if I were you. He's a man now.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: I looked up at him through tears soaked eyes. His
• 1:56:10
  eyes sparkled.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: It took five years.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: He suddenly leaned down and cupped his mouth over my ear.
• 1:56:16
  His voice was cold, glass, his breath hot like fire.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: Good little ones will get five years as well, Spence.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: And with that, he looked at my mother one last
• 1:56:24
  time and then walked out the door. My mother rushed
• 1:56:27
  me and took me into her arms, comforting me as
• 1:56:29
  I cried. Tommy never returned to our home. Okay, yep,
• 1:56:33
  Father Spence has no.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: Excuse, absolutely zero.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: So that's the case though too, then if it's his
• 1:56:40
  last day, right, it has been five years.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: It took five.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: Years for him to learn that lesson, that's what it said.
• 1:56:44
  So then he said, your little ones will get five
• 1:56:46
  years as well.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: What lesson did he learn?
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: You think about he doesn't actually love something if he
• 1:56:54
  doesn't have sexual interactions with it is the implication.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: Do you think that's what the author is wanting to say,
• 1:57:00
  tours or something else there?
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to No, I don't think the author's saying that.
• 1:57:04
  I think he's well, what the what he was doing
• 1:57:09
  is the same thing he did with the son in
• 1:57:11
  the first story. Tommy is making him experience some perverted
• 1:57:16
  sexual thing for the first time in his life. Hmmm,
• 1:57:19
  because the kid's eleven. It's the age when you know
• 1:57:21
  a young boy starts to fill those emotions. So Tommy
• 1:57:24
  like forces the kid into that, and he were, okay,
• 1:57:28
  like the lesson quote unquote is you know, like puberty
• 1:57:32
  birds and the bee stuff like that. Right, He's doing
• 1:57:35
  that in a very perverted, messed up way, and he's like, okay, well, yeah.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: Five years is up by Yeah.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: But having Tommy directly say your little ones will get
• 1:57:44
  five years as well and then you.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: Have kids, well, I mean it's fucked up.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: I mean the thing too is It's what sucks about
• 1:57:50
  this is his dad went through that horrible public death
• 1:57:52
  only for his kid to be like, I think I
• 1:57:54
  too will have children. Yeah, lose the thing here, But
• 1:57:57
  he says it took five years for him to say that, right,
• 1:58:01
  So Tommy says his eye sparkled, it took five years.
• 1:58:04
  He suddenly leaned down and coups to his mouth. Over
• 1:58:06
  my ear, your little ones will get five years as well.
• 1:58:08
  It almost seems like if it would have taken him longer,
• 1:58:11
  it would have gotten longer.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're right. You might be right. Yeah,
• 1:58:15
  maybe maybe.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: That's how it works.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's not a set five years, it's just depending
• 1:58:21
  on person to person. Probably, yeah, yeah, you could be right.
• 1:58:25
  Time passed and I grew up. I grew up, always
• 1:58:27
  expecting Tommy to show up again, combarging through our front door,
• 1:58:30
  But he never did. The years faded, and some of
• 1:58:33
  the horror and pain began to fade as well. We
• 1:58:36
  were never the same, though, how could we be? My
• 1:58:39
  mother was a shelve of the woman she used to be.
• 1:58:41
  The mental torture she had undergone had broken something inside
• 1:58:44
  of her. She never regained. God, she loved me and
• 1:58:47
  tried to heal the nightmares of those five years. A
• 1:58:50
  full year passed before my mother dared ask Megan's mom
• 1:58:53
  if Tommy was gone from their home as well. He was.
• 1:58:56
  The neighborhood was free, impossibly, unbelievably free from the monster
• 1:59:01
  that terrodized us for five awful years. I never understood
• 1:59:05
  what Tommy's final words were to me, what they meant,
• 1:59:08
  until it was too late. When I turned twenty five,
• 1:59:10
  I married mecan year later. We were expecting you've heard
• 1:59:14
  the rest from my poor son. God forgive me for
• 1:59:17
  having children. God forgive me, Yeah, duh, idiot.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: What I don't understand with that, too, is if you
• 1:59:23
  have some that traumatic I feel like, especially with something
• 1:59:26
  we'd have to hear the perspective of Meghan as well,
• 1:59:28
  of like, did something similar happen to her as well?
• 1:59:30
  Because if it's like, if the exact same thing happened
• 1:59:33
  to Meghan as well, I just feel like something would
• 1:59:37
  you would just be like, I don't feel comfortable having
• 1:59:39
  children or having that go through them if they both
• 1:59:41
  had that thing happen. But him directly saying that, I
• 1:59:44
  feel like, especially at somebody at that pivotal of an age,
• 1:59:48
  I think would do irreversible mental damage to you to
• 1:59:51
  where I feel like you would be disgusted with the
• 1:59:53
  idea of having children. Is what I would think.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: You would think one would hope.
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: You would think you would hope. Yeah.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing though, too, I think the overly sexually
• 2:00:05
  explicit graphic stuff I think is the only thing back
• 2:00:10
  from being Yeah, it's the only thing holding it back
• 2:00:12
  from being something crazy. I think that also you could
• 2:00:14
  have a horrifying monster and the whole idea is like
• 2:00:17
  I'm going to help you raise your children and you
• 2:00:20
  could do other things that basically also, if you did
• 2:00:25
  that in a way where it was just like, oh,
• 2:00:27
  I'm here to just help you be that other parent
• 2:00:30
  there's something very uncanny about you yourself cannot trust your
• 2:00:33
  own parents. You yourself have no support system in that way,
• 2:00:37
  no guidance, and then now he is completely corrupting the
• 2:00:40
  idea of what that is.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: I think that within itself is a pretty like I
• 2:00:45
  really enjoyed the parents being like, this is fucking stupid.
• 2:00:48
  We need to kill this guy.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: But him coming out and publicly being like, by the way,
• 2:00:52
  I'm going to do this regardless of you, you'd like,
• 2:00:54
  regardless of not.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here here's the public execution if you otherwise.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: I think that there's just a lot I think it
• 2:01:00
  would make him less One note as well with his
• 2:01:03
  approach to stuff, because they really glossed over the thing
• 2:01:06
  about him being like, this is how he makes little
• 2:01:08
  meetings of how you can be your's supposed to be
• 2:01:10
  a good person. I think that should have been explored
• 2:01:12
  a little more. I wanted to hear more about these
• 2:01:15
  weird meetings and stuff. I'm like instilling crazy shit, right
• 2:01:18
  if you have if you're an emotionally and mentally manipulated
• 2:01:24
  as a child, how does that affect you as you're older?
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: They just like there's irreversible damage that happens. So I
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  think like having him do certain things like oh, you
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  have to go over to your neighbor's house and fucking
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  like I don't know, like I guess, not steal something.
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  There's not a lot of weight to that, but I
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  guess just like teaching them all the wrong things and
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  then being and then like, even though the people know
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  it's wrong, having to do it, having to make all
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  these hard decisions, versus him just being this parasite who's
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  just like, oh, I'm just gonna do this one thing
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  that's horrible, feels a bit one note, and it's the
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  only like real thing where I'm like, ah, is it
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  the one thing that's keeping it from being with this great,
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  great character and creature.
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  Speaker 3: I'm okay even if it's like some level of implied
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  sexual stuff, like like what we talked about with the
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  first one, if it just ended at what you got there,
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  you know, like that's fine. I think that can be useful,
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  it can be menacing, But the level of gratuity I
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  think doesn't serve the story because it's like he goes
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  from like this unspeakable, unknowable beast that like just watches
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  you and stuff to like kind of a pervert, you know,
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  which like diminishes it a bit.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I mean, is like for the story's sake
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  of it, as if like your artistic choice is like, yeah,
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  this is one of the things that it's like a
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  realistic thing, a realistic horrible thing that happens to people,
• 2:02:41
  and it's unnerving and it's.
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  Speaker 1: Like breaks you.
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  Speaker 2: I get that, but for it to be the only
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  one thing, I'm just like, I wish that you had
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  something more to give besides that, because now it just
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  feels like, oh, it's just a perverted like I don't know,
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  snuff like a snuff monster.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think it goes hard.
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  Speaker 1: I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Again, it has a few issues, but I think I
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  think it's still all in all, like that's a really
• 2:03:06
  really good story. I enjoyed enjoyed it. Yeah, that was
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  a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm only upset just because of the idea
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  of like it could have been, in my eyes, something
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  so awesome and it is good. I just went like, man,
• 2:03:19
  this is like a right on the cusp of being
• 2:03:21
  something like pin pal level of creepy and weird and
• 2:03:24
  just strange. Uncanny and like uncanny in a way too
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  where I'm like, this is what the Jeff the Killer
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  thing was supposed to be.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has it has all these elements of like this.
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  Speaker 2: This perfectly encapsulates all of like the weird things of
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  like you know, the realistic eyes, you know, like the
• 2:03:42
  body and stuff. It's very It's not the most original thing,
• 2:03:45
  but it like does everything right in building those things up.
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  Speaker 3: I think it goes hard. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it's good. I think too. The
• 2:03:54
  that I still think is I think it's my least
• 2:03:55
  favorite character.
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  Speaker 3: I think not only the selfishness and neck agents to
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  have children, but like we said, like die go out
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  like your dad did like a man. If you're going
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  to be so selfish, Yeah.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: You were given a gift from your father to you know,
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  for him to be like I'm going to not I
• 2:04:12
  mean basically the gift of life, right, and then to
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  survive on and then you do that by just giving
• 2:04:18
  the curse that you have on to someone else who's innocent.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: Is just so selfish.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all should live in the middle of the street,
• 2:04:26
  take rotations of men with flamethrowers at night, you know,
• 2:04:29
  that's how you.
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  Speaker 1: Look now, Tommy Taffy. There you go. That is the
• 2:04:33
  part one here. I'm curious to see the comments here.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: If we get a lot of positive feedback, you know,
• 2:04:37
  with something like this, I'd be curious to see what
• 2:04:39
  the next two parts are. But at the same time,
• 2:04:43
  there's also a lot of other stories out there too.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: It's kind of the thing where it's like Barroska Part five.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: People want us to go back and do that, but
• 2:04:49
  to me, that story is just done, like, I don't
• 2:04:51
  want any additional.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe one day. I've heard people say the part
• 2:04:56
  five is really good, so maybe potentially, But I will
• 2:04:59
  say I would really like to read the other half
• 2:05:01
  of the Tommy Taffy story.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 2: Sounds pretty good, Okay, Well, if anything, if we're stoked
• 2:05:06
  on it, we'll see what people say as well.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we can just keep rolling next time.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's pretty good. I'll be
• 2:05:11
  down to read it. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it
• 2:05:13
  for sure. And also again check out the author of it,
• 2:05:18
  who Elias with a Rowe, who it turns out, has
• 2:05:21
  a lot of books published too. He has one called
• 2:05:23
  Gore Moon. He has one called Memories of Monsters. He
• 2:05:25
  has some pretty cool looking stuff, so check that guy out. Also,
• 2:05:28
  he also has a copy, it seems, of the Tommy
• 2:05:32
  Taffy story.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: Oh and I wanted to also shout out Neon Tempo,
• 2:05:36
  the author of The Left Right Game, had a book
• 2:05:40
  just published as well. We put the link on our
• 2:05:43
  Twitter if you ever want to check that out.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 3: Cool cool.
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  Speaker 2: He has a new book out as well, so be
• 2:05:49
  sure to go check that out there. We'll probably leave
• 2:05:50
  a link as well in the description here, but if
• 2:05:53
  you enjoyed The Left Right Game, maybe check out his
• 2:05:55
  new novel. A nice novel all in all, Also, once
• 2:06:00
  again just to reiterate, if you're watching this on YouTube
• 2:06:02
  and you ever want to listen to us on Spotify
• 2:06:04
  or Apple podcasts, please do so. It helps us out
• 2:06:07
  a lot on the podcast chain of events and things
• 2:06:10
  like that. And all in all, post memes, we've been
• 2:06:14
  posting a lot of fan art at the end of
• 2:06:16
  the videos. We've been seeing it on our reddit and
• 2:06:20
  our Twitter, so just tag us or do whatever. We
• 2:06:23
  love to see it. We appreciate the community so much.
• 2:06:26
  You guys fucking rule.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: And yeah, until next time, stay spooked, you creeps.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 3: There it is. Stay spooked, you creeps. That's great, that's fantastic,
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  and I'm going to say something normal. Thank you all
• 2:06:37
  for watching. I appreciate it.
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