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• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Into the Bulk Report.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm Danikiti
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  Speaker 2: Giorgio filling in for Andrew. He will be back with
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  Speaker 2: you next week. Coming up tonight. Labor goes on the
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  Speaker 2: defense over their shocking economic record, but I'll speak to
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  Speaker 2: one economist who's crunched the numbers and will tell us
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  Speaker 2: are we really better off.
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  Speaker 3: Under Albin Ezi.
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  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton proves he is listening to locals by vowing
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  Speaker 2: to scrap a major offshore wind project, but a looming
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  Speaker 2: gas crisis has us all paying more for our energy bills.
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  Speaker 2: Former Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce joins me very shortly.
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  Speaker 2: Another pro Palestinian protest outside Sydney's Great Synagogue last night,
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  Speaker 2: forcing it to go into lockdown. No wonder, Jews no
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  Speaker 2: longer feel safe in this country, and hypocrisy in sport.
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  Speaker 2: But a Christian footballer is threatened with punishment for wearing
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  Speaker 2: a rainbow I love Jesus arm band, but another player,
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  Speaker 2: a Muslim, refuses to wear a rainbow jacket and the
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  Speaker 2: whole idea is scrapped. Patrick Christie's joins me live from London,
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  Speaker 2: but first cast your minds back to May twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 2: the day Anthony Albanezi was elected. I've got to say,
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  Speaker 2: in the two and a half years since, though it
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  Speaker 2: does feel like a lot longer as we suffer through
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  Speaker 2: Labour's cost of living crisis.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I know you'd rather be spared of.
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  Speaker 2: Those memories of Albow's election, but bear with me. This
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  Speaker 2: is what the Prime Minister told us all on that night.
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  Speaker 4: And I will lead a government worthy of the people
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  Speaker 4: of Australia, a government as courageous and hard working and
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  Speaker 4: caring as the Australian people are themselves. Friends, we have
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  Speaker 4: made history tonight and tomorrow, together we begin the work
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  Speaker 4: of building a better future, a better future for all Australians.
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  Speaker 2: There it is a better future for all Australians. He
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  Speaker 2: also promised no Australian would be left behind. That was
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  Speaker 2: his plan, his big pitch, the basis of which he
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  Speaker 2: was elected. Yet where has it got us that promise
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  Speaker 2: of a better future and the promise.
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  Speaker 3: No Australian would be left behind?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's got us nowhere, and not that we needed
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  Speaker 2: more proof, but those promises were obliterated by yesterday's GDP
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  Speaker 2: figures Because.
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  Speaker 3: The country has now suffered.
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  Speaker 2: Seven consecutive quarters of negative per capita GDP.
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  Speaker 3: We are now.
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  Speaker 2: Thousands of dollars worse off under the Albanese government. Economist
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  Speaker 2: Chris Richardson estimates living standards remained ten point five percent
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  Speaker 2: below their peak three years ago. For the average Australian household.
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  Speaker 2: This works out to be a drop of roughly five
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars indisposable income. No wonder this has been called
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  Speaker 2: a recession of the people because it's the people who
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  Speaker 2: are suffering.
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  Speaker 3: Think about this for a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Labor has been in power since May twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 2: so for most of Albanese's prime ministership, the economy has
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  Speaker 2: gone in the wrong direction. We are going broke and backwards.
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  Speaker 2: This is the worst outcome.
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  Speaker 3: In fifty years.
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  Speaker 2: Not that it seems to worry the Treasurer because this
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  Speaker 2: was the best Jim Chalmers could offer up today when
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  Speaker 2: trying to explain those figures.
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  Speaker 5: You've got a choice to make, and the choice that
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  Speaker 5: we made was to help people with the cost of living,
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  Speaker 5: to fight inflation, to get the budget in better nick
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  Speaker 5: Our opponents wanted to make a different choice, and if
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  Speaker 5: our opponents had had their way, Astra would be in
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  Speaker 5: recession and Australians would be under even more pressure than
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  Speaker 5: what we're seeing in the community right now. We know
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  Speaker 5: that the Coalition is a risk to the economy and
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  Speaker 5: a risk to household budgets because we know their record.
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  Speaker 2: So he's now blaming the coalition. This is a treasurer
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  Speaker 2: with his training wheels on. He has lost control of
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  Speaker 2: the debate. Jim Chalmers is not taking this crisis seriously.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a crisis, a crisis of labour zone doing,
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  Speaker 2: and it starts with record government spending fueling inflation.
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  Speaker 3: It was the single.
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  Speaker 2: Biggest driver of economic growth in the September quarter, hitting
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety five point eight billion dollars. The
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  Speaker 2: only time federal government spending has been this large was
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  Speaker 2: in the early stages of the COVID pandemic. This is
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  Speaker 2: totally unsustainable and ultimately we pay for it, and labor
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  Speaker 2: has been warned multiple times by the Reserve Bank. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: to Governor Michelle Bullock recently said families would have to
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  Speaker 2: make quite painful changes in the near future.
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  Speaker 6: This includes things like cutting back on their spending to
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  Speaker 6: the more essential items, trading down to lower quality goods
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  Speaker 6: and services, dipping into their savings or working extra hours,
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  Speaker 6: and some may ultimately have to make the very difficult
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  Speaker 6: choice to sell their home.
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  Speaker 3: It's frightening.
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  Speaker 2: Yet here we are, and at the same time, Big
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: Australia keeps getting bigger. Under the failed Andrew Giles experiment
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  Speaker 2: in the immigration portfolio, a record one point one five
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  Speaker 2: million migrants came to this country. It is sheer and
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  Speaker 2: utter madness to have allowed this many people into the
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  Speaker 2: country in the middle of a housing crisis, while rents
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  Speaker 2: are soaring, roads are congested, and homelessness has risen. This
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  Speaker 2: has been a completely irresponsible immigration policy from the very start.
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  Speaker 2: The only explanation is a Ponzi scheme economy shielding us
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  Speaker 2: from the real economic truth. It's lazy politics, not to
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  Speaker 2: mention Big Australia works in Labour's favor when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to votes, prompting Peter Dutton to liken Labor to the
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  Speaker 2: Whitler mirror.
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  Speaker 7: And let's be very clear, this period is akin to
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  Speaker 7: the Whitler mirror where the Labor Party near destroyed the
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  Speaker 7: economy and the economy is being damaged at the moment
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  Speaker 7: by the Labor Party. And that's why it costs for
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  Speaker 7: every product to going through the.
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  Speaker 2: Roof, and it continues to get worse because household bills,
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  Speaker 2: as we know, are being tested, homeowners are being crippled
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  Speaker 2: by mortgages, and at the same time power prices are
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  Speaker 2: still going up. That's if the lights can even stay
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  Speaker 2: on under Labour's renewables fantasy. Last week in New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales we were told not to use household appliances between
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: three pm and eight pm to ease pressure on the
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  Speaker 2: grid and avoid blackouts. And summer hadn't even started yet
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  Speaker 2: and Chris Bowen, as we know, blamed it on coal
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  Speaker 2: for very resource he wants to get rid of.
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  Speaker 8: We saw yesterday in New South Wales what's something that
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  Speaker 8: does happen from time to time and our energy grid,
• 7:05
  Speaker 8: which is very hot conditions which obviously under any circumstances
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  Speaker 8: sees electricity years go up and quite rightly. And then
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  Speaker 8: we had five units of fossil fuels out of action,
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  Speaker 8: three of which we knew about, two of which were
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  Speaker 8: breakdowns at very short notice, and that did put pressure
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  Speaker 8: on the grid. This is about what I've been saying
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  Speaker 8: for some time, Laura, that the biggest threat to reliability
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  Speaker 8: in our energy system is coal fire powerstations, which aren't
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  Speaker 8: getting any younger, and like all of us, as they
• 7:35
  Speaker 8: get older, they get that little bit less reliable every day.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, you just have to laugh.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we are still waiting Chris Bowen on that
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five dollars in energy relief.
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  Speaker 3: Labour's big election.
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  Speaker 2: Winning plans in May twenty twenty two for a better
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  Speaker 2: future have been smashed to Smithereens.
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  Speaker 3: Labor has failed. The proof is in the pudding. So
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  Speaker 3: Jim Chalmers can keep blaming Peter Dutton, but the facts
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  Speaker 3: speak for themselves, Elves.
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  Speaker 2: The economy is going backwards and people are being left
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  Speaker 2: behind under labor. Joining me now for more on this
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  Speaker 2: is Leith van Onslan, co founder of Macro Business and
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  Speaker 2: a former Federal Treasury official.
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  Speaker 3: Lee, thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: Firstly, how would you describe these latest GDP figures.
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  Speaker 9: In a word?
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  Speaker 1: Shocking, Nika, Absolutely shocking.
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  Speaker 10: They pretty much undershot easily every economists forecast and also
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  Speaker 10: undershot the RBA's own projections as well by a very
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  Speaker 10: very wide margin. Now, the point eight percent year on
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  Speaker 10: year growth that we got in the September quarter was
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  Speaker 10: the worst in thirty two years since since the early
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  Speaker 10: nineties when Paul Keating was Treasurer back in nineteen ninety one.
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  Speaker 10: They also put Australia at the near the very bottom
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  Speaker 10: of the OECD.
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  Speaker 1: Lead tables for GDP growth.
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  Speaker 10: So, for example, the median growth across OECD economies for
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  Speaker 10: the year to September was one point one percent. We
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  Speaker 10: zero point eight percent, despite the fact that we're running
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  Speaker 10: one of the world's biggest immigration programs and have very
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  Speaker 10: high population growth, and obviously the per capita growth is
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  Speaker 10: an absolute shocker. So it fell yo point three percent
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  Speaker 10: in the September quarter, but it's fallen for seven consecutive quarters,
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  Speaker 10: which is the longest run of per capita decline in
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  Speaker 10: Australia's recorded history. So it's an absolute shocker. Everyone sliced
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  Speaker 10: the pie has been falling for seven quarters. It's fallen
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  Speaker 10: by about two point one percent since the Albanese government
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  Speaker 10: came to offers, and it's been borne mostly by the
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  Speaker 10: household sector. So the only thing that's keeping the economy
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  Speaker 10: growing in an aggregate sense is obviously very high levels
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  Speaker 10: of immigration and also record government spending, but the private
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  Speaker 10: sector economy and in particular households are going backwards, and
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  Speaker 10: that's the key takeaway from this release.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well just on that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you and I have spoken many times about
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  Speaker 2: big Australia, but you've.
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  Speaker 3: Now crunched the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: How much of this can be attributed to population growth?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, so you know, obviously, with the economy growing by
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  Speaker 10: point three percent nagregat and falling by point three percent
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  Speaker 10: per capital it means a population growth point six population
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  Speaker 10: growth with point six percent. Now, what we can do
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  Speaker 10: is if you actually divide the total GDP of Australia
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  Speaker 10: by per capita GDP, you get the ABS's estimate of
• 10:24
  Speaker 10: population growth. And what it showed is that Australia's population
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  Speaker 10: grew by one hundred and sixty eight thousand people in
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  Speaker 10: the September quarter and agree by six hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 10: eight thousand, four hundred in the year to September. Now,
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  Speaker 10: just to put that into perspective so people know what
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  Speaker 10: that volume means. That basically means that the Australian economy
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  Speaker 10: was to the Australian as a country grew by a
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  Speaker 10: Hobart and a Darwin worth of people in just one year.
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  Speaker 10: And that there is why we have the rental crisis.
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  Speaker 10: It is also why the economy continues to grow despite
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  Speaker 10: the fact that we're all shrinking per person, because you've
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  Speaker 10: got this mass population growth.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Look, that really is an unbelievable figure and in the
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  Speaker 2: end we.
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  Speaker 3: Are all paying the price for it.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I've got to say, Leaf, it feels
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  Speaker 2: as though we're being propped up by a Ponzi scheme economy.
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  Speaker 3: Is this lazy politics.
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  Speaker 10: And it's absolutely lazy politics that we have basically two
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  Speaker 10: growth drivers in Australia, and that is importing as many
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  Speaker 10: people as we can. As I said, you know, nearly
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  Speaker 10: six hundred and forty thousand people in the years absurd
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  Speaker 10: and also record public spending, so public demand as a
• 11:32
  Speaker 10: share of GDP has never been higher. It's pretty much
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  Speaker 10: all the jobs growth in Australia is now in the
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  Speaker 10: non market economy, which is basically government funded jobs.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: All of Australia's growth.
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  Speaker 10: In the September quarter and also that June quarter pretty
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  Speaker 10: much was in was from government spending. The private sector
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  Speaker 10: is stagnating and going backwards once you.
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  Speaker 1: Adjust for population growth.
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  Speaker 10: So this is a really unsustainable economy we've got here,
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  Speaker 10: and the worst thing about it, Daniker, is that Australia's
• 11:59
  Speaker 10: labor productivity, so that's how much we produce per worker,
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  Speaker 10: has actually fallen eight years.
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  Speaker 1: We've lost eight years.
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  Speaker 10: Of productivity growth and we're tracking at December twenty sixteen levels,
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  Speaker 10: so our productivity is declined as well, which is why
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  Speaker 10: living standards are fully and that declining productivity has been
• 12:17
  Speaker 10: driven by obviously excessive levels immigration, which is overrun, housing, infrastructure,
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  Speaker 10: business investment, as well as the pivot from jobs growth
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  Speaker 10: away from the market sector, which is more efficient, towards
• 12:28
  Speaker 10: these government jobs, which is less efficient. So it's a
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  Speaker 10: very unsustainable economy we have right now.
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  Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers is today out blaming the Coalition saying we
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  Speaker 2: would be in a recession if the Coalition had their way,
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  Speaker 2: and that they are the real risk to the economy.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: Is that an accurate assessment, Well.
• 12:45
  Speaker 10: It all depends how you define a recession. If the
• 12:48
  Speaker 10: Coalition was going to come out and significantly cut immigration
• 12:52
  Speaker 10: back to lowish levels, yes that would impact growth, of
• 12:56
  Speaker 10: course it would, but it wouldn't impact per capital growth
• 12:58
  Speaker 10: and I think it actually be good for per capital
• 12:59
  Speaker 10: GATH growth, and that's the thing we should all be
• 13:01
  Speaker 10: worried about. You know, it doesn't matter if Australia's economy
• 13:05
  Speaker 10: grows in aggregate, everybody slice the pie is shrinking. And
• 13:09
  Speaker 10: just to put a point in that week, we could
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  Speaker 10: import five million people next year into Australia, we would
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  Speaker 10: have the world's best economic growth. But it's meaningless if
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  Speaker 10: our living standards are going backwards. People can't afford to
• 13:19
  Speaker 10: buy a house, they crush loaded with infrastructure, and their
• 13:21
  Speaker 10: per capita GDP and incomes are shrinking. And that's effectively
• 13:25
  Speaker 10: the economy that we have right now. So it's a
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  Speaker 10: bit of a silly statement by Treasury of Jim Chalmers.
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  Speaker 3: It certainly is a leaf. Look before we let you go.
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  Speaker 3: Where does this now leave the RBA.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's the one bright spot about this. It's sort of,
• 13:38
  Speaker 10: you know, a negative turns into a positive because these
• 13:42
  Speaker 10: growth figures were so weak. It will bring forward rate cuts.
• 13:45
  Speaker 10: So I'm pretty confident about that now. I don't think
• 13:48
  Speaker 10: the RBA will cut this month and they meet later
• 13:50
  Speaker 10: in the month because it'd be too much of a
• 13:52
  Speaker 10: pivot from what they've been saying recently. They've been very
• 13:55
  Speaker 10: strongly suggesting that rates will re made on hold. But
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  Speaker 10: what I think we'll get is in the next meeting
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  Speaker 10: up the next next week or so, the RBA will
• 14:02
  Speaker 10: do a pivot so that all their language will change
• 14:04
  Speaker 10: and they'll start getting this ready for a February rate
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  Speaker 10: cut because these growth numbers are so far below what
• 14:10
  Speaker 10: they are expecting. Their shocking and I think you know
• 14:13
  Speaker 10: that'll bring forward rate cuts, which perversely could actually be
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  Speaker 10: good for the government because they might get rate cuts
• 14:19
  Speaker 10: well before the next election rather than after the next election.
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  Speaker 2: It's certainly going to be an interesting few months ahead,
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  Speaker 2: that's for sure. Leif van Onnslin, thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: for your time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Danika, anytime.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: We'll joining me now is former Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Joyce Barnaby, good to see you, Thanks for your time.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: I just first want to get your response to Jim
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Chalmers today saying that the Coalition is a risk to
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: the economy and a risk to household budgets. That was
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: in response to the GDP figures. What do you say to.
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  Speaker 11: That, Well, let's take Jim for a little lecture in economics.
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  Speaker 9: Jim, this is cash.
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  Speaker 11: This is cash, right, merely placid cash.
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  Speaker 9: But let's say instead of being paid in cash. You're
• 15:02
  Speaker 9: paid in gold.
• 15:06
  Speaker 11: Well, what's been happening since you've been there, Gym, is
• 15:09
  Speaker 11: we're begetting less and less and less of that.
• 15:12
  Speaker 9: The actual value of this has been going down.
• 15:15
  Speaker 11: So you who being less have been getting horror horrah.
• 15:21
  Speaker 9: See that's what's been happening to Australia since you've been there, Gym.
• 15:25
  Speaker 9: It hasn't got better, It's got decidedly worse.
• 15:29
  Speaker 11: Now, Jim, you might disagree with me and say, let's
• 15:31
  Speaker 11: go for a little trip through the shopping mall. And
• 15:34
  Speaker 11: in the shopping mall, you're going to find people and
• 15:36
  Speaker 11: they can't afford the groceries.
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: They used to the out afford them, but now they can't.
• 15:41
  Speaker 11: And you'll also find people who use the O to
• 15:43
  Speaker 11: afford to buy a house. But the price of house
• 15:46
  Speaker 11: has gone through the roof. And see, Jim, you're bringing
• 15:49
  Speaker 11: all these people into Australia and saying, oh hooray, they
• 15:52
  Speaker 11: all turn up with a little bit of their own
• 15:53
  Speaker 11: casion and the policas the gross domestic product is going up,
• 15:58
  Speaker 11: but the amount of money per person, especially the people
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  Speaker 11: who are already living here, the Australians, is going down.
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  Speaker 11: Now a great sense of A great test of this
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  Speaker 11: is a very essential thing.
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  Speaker 9: It's called electricity.
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  Speaker 1: See, Jim.
• 16:13
  Speaker 11: The price of electricity'st be going through the roof, unsurprisingly
• 16:18
  Speaker 11: at the same period as the amount of intimitive power,
• 16:21
  Speaker 11: which you call renewables, but it's not actually renewable.
• 16:24
  Speaker 9: Swindle is actually a better word for swindle farms. As
• 16:27
  Speaker 9: the amount of intimated power goes up, the power price
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: has been going up. And you know what you want
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  Speaker 9: to do, Jim. You are more of it. You are
• 16:34
  Speaker 9: more intimated.
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  Speaker 11: Power shutting the goldfine pwislations don't have a nuclear eighty
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  Speaker 11: two percent renewables by twenty thirty.
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  Speaker 9: That is in sane. So no, Jim, it hasn't gone better,
• 16:48
  Speaker 9: it's got worse.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to say, Barnaby Joyce, that was the clearest
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: explanation of the economy that I've seen for a very
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: long time. For the spin that we're hearing from labor.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: All we need is your whiteboard and your tweet dollar
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: note and perfectly summed up, and you are your spot on.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: And I want to ask.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: You just on that point about energy, because there's apparently
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: a new energy crisis upon us, though that we have
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: been warned about residential gas customers in Victoria, New South
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Wales and South Australia are facing and your gas bill
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: increases of up to two hundred and ninety five dollars
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: because of.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: A dire gas supply crisis. Gee Barnaby.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: With gas so expensive and as we've been warned, there's
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: not enough we could really do with some more coal,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: you know, that big bad fuel being driven out of
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the Australian market before the renewables fantasy.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: But how did we get to this point?
• 17:42
  Speaker 12: Well, because we've got into pitterpan economics, this sort of
• 17:46
  Speaker 12: mythical belief that you can run the nation on intimitted power,
• 17:49
  Speaker 12: because Teachers Federation have told the pities that got to
• 17:51
  Speaker 12: intaneously combust unless.
• 17:53
  Speaker 9: We drive our economy into the dirt. We're doing that. See,
• 17:56
  Speaker 9: we think cold evil.
• 17:58
  Speaker 11: Apparently it's righteous in China and everywhere else they use it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: That's evil if we use it in Australia. And also
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: nuclear is another evil rock.
• 18:07
  Speaker 11: Now gain's virtues across as Bob Walden goes to Korea
• 18:10
  Speaker 11: or Japan or somewhere else. But we can't use it
• 18:12
  Speaker 11: here because the kiddies say we can't. And so we're
• 18:15
  Speaker 11: in this wonderland, this mythical wonderland.
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: We're us in New Zealand. We're we're holding out against
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: the rest of the world. We're not going to.
• 18:22
  Speaker 11: Use power because you know, if you go down this
• 18:25
  Speaker 11: path you don't have baselow power. Then the poor are
• 18:30
  Speaker 11: the ones you kick in the guts. They're the ones
• 18:33
  Speaker 11: you kick to the curb. They have nowhere else to go.
• 18:37
  Speaker 11: So we have to get gas out. You have to
• 18:39
  Speaker 11: get energy. You must have energy.
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: Energy underpins everything in your economy. No energy, no economy.
• 18:47
  Speaker 9: And if you don't, if you.
• 18:48
  Speaker 11: Mightn't believe me, you might think I'm a very bad
• 18:50
  Speaker 11: school teacher. How that you believe every other major corporation
• 18:55
  Speaker 11: that doesn't want to move any of their manufacturing to Australia.
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: In fact, the matter of fact, who we've got is
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: moving overseas. See they would understand mister Bowen better than
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: anybody else. And mister Chalmers, and.
• 19:08
  Speaker 11: And you don't think Crooks or Boeing or Semens or
• 19:12
  Speaker 11: or ever Airbus.
• 19:15
  Speaker 9: Or I know General Electric or are you guy Tachi.
• 19:19
  Speaker 11: Or Parason, none of them are moving their manufacturing to
• 19:21
  Speaker 11: Australia because we are off our heads. We believe that
• 19:24
  Speaker 11: we can create this magical place where it's all mint
• 19:27
  Speaker 11: of power.
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: And they're kind of laughing at us. You know, this
• 19:29
  Speaker 9: is Australians. It's like a chilled mania. So gas is
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: one of our big exports. If we don't have.
• 19:34
  Speaker 11: Gas, then this little baby ain't worth much at all.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: No, exactly.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: And yet here we are standing on so much gas
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and we're at this point in this country.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: It's just extraordinary.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Now, today, Barnaby, Peter Dutton announced that a coalition government
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: will cancel the controversial Port Stephens offshore wind zone if elected. Look,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: this is this is a great decision and I think
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: it really shows that Peter Dutt and is genuinely listening
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to the concerns.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Of the community out there. Here was Labour's reply to
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: that today.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: The announcement that he's made today would put thousands of
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: jobs at risk, and Peter Dutton, in the usual destructive
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: and risky way, he wants to put those thousands of
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: jobs and all of that renewable energy at risk. Now,
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: if he wants to talk about energy, needs to come
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: clean on the cost of this nuclear madness.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: You know, Barnaby, what Labor won't tell you is about
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the first of the damage to the land, the destruction
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: of the habitat and to the environment to get these
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: wind zone monstrosities up and running.
• 20:37
  Speaker 11: A fantasy that honestly I don't know what bills are on,
• 20:40
  Speaker 11: but they've got to change the medication.
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: It is crazy.
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: So what I would say is the people of the
• 20:45
  Speaker 11: Hunter and dog Bell and Newcastle and those seats along
• 20:48
  Speaker 11: the coast, they're going to have that massive industrial swindle factory.
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: The Labor gets in massive industrial swindle factory. Part off
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: your beach. If you want that for the Labor Party.
• 20:58
  Speaker 11: If you don't want that, and.
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: Vote for them. Now what we've also seen they talk
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: about this green superpower. We're going to export renewables, export
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: this green energy to the world.
• 21:09
  Speaker 11: Well all the people making the so called green hydrogen
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: have sort of like dish that've canned that ideas.
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: It's bumpkin mad.
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: And then so they're going to make green seal, but
• 21:18
  Speaker 11: at a cost that's wavy on the capacity of any
• 21:20
  Speaker 11: sane person overseas to buy.
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: I mean, he's going to build these green steel factories.
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: I mean, where are you going to start building your grip?
• 21:29
  Speaker 11: Who are the the companies come to austral to build
• 21:32
  Speaker 11: green cars.
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: No one wants to green hydrogen.
• 21:36
  Speaker 11: They talk about us being green superpower and they talk
• 21:38
  Speaker 11: about damage today.
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: This is this is pure insanity, the trouble of the
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: labor parties and no longer have laborers.
• 21:45
  Speaker 11: And because they don't have laborers, they don't have people
• 21:47
  Speaker 11: who've got that on the ground, understanding hands, dirty sense
• 21:53
  Speaker 11: in stopping governments.
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: Making doby decisions. What they have now is people with PhDs.
• 21:59
  Speaker 11: And political signien things like that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: And they think that in a bit of power and.
• 22:04
  Speaker 11: Destroying our economy and pixie power and swindle factories and
• 22:10
  Speaker 11: capacity investment schemes, magical secret agreements that they pay the
• 22:15
  Speaker 11: companies overseas or in swindle factories, so they pay the
• 22:18
  Speaker 11: money even if they don't produce power.
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: Wouldn't you like a bit of that character.
• 22:22
  Speaker 11: Well, they think that that is apparently how you run
• 22:25
  Speaker 11: an economy, and they say we're the danger to it.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: If you want to see danger, you're living with it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: Look at your power belt.
• 22:32
  Speaker 11: Then thin television, I and watch Chris Bohan and say,
• 22:35
  Speaker 11: do I actually believe this man can change the temperature
• 22:38
  Speaker 11: of the weather.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And as I said, invaded toorial Bartaby we're still
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: waiting for that two hundred and seventy five dollars. In
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the meantime, the power bills are going in the other direction.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: But look, speaking of Port Stevens, it seems Peter Dutton
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: might be on the right track here because a new
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: poll by the Daily Telegraph, it was published late this afternoon,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: has found Anthony Albanesi has no chance of winning a
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: majority government, with the Coalition on track to pick up
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: at least nine seats. One of those seats that could
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: change hands is Port Stevens, where these offshore wind farms
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: are a major issue.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: The federal seat yeah of.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Patterson was Yeah, Patterson was on was won by Labor
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: of course at the twenty twenty two election fifty three
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: to forty six. But if you have a look at
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: this polling, it could swing the other way fifty four
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: to forty six now in favor of the Coalition. And
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: this is just one seat, Barnaby, what's your reaction.
• 23:31
  Speaker 11: Well, remember the Labor Party wanted to put these swindle
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: factories up and down the coast.
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: Right down to Gilmore of Woollongong, even and narrow.
• 23:41
  Speaker 11: They're just hoop about swindle factories.
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: I mean they're carrying the New England with them.
• 23:45
  Speaker 11: They want to put them out where the transmission lines everywhere.
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: A couple of the fields followed are tape black.
• 23:50
  Speaker 11: And of course don't you know, yeah, Meryl Swanson, I
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: like is a good person, but imagine what how it
• 23:56
  Speaker 11: feels where like Chris Boa turns up like get out
• 23:59
  Speaker 11: Chris so go.
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: Away, hide high high. This guy's political poison.
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: I've been up there to Port Stephen speaking to thousands
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: of people, thousands of people at protests.
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: And the Labor Party is so arrogant. They're saying, well,
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: we're just going to do it to you anyway.
• 24:15
  Speaker 11: It doesn't matter that it doesn't work, it doesn't matter.
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: That your price of powers going through. We have this.
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: We have a cult like belief in intimate of power
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: and we're going to enforce it on you. Like most
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: people in cults, they don't listen to common sense.
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: They just listen to their cultage attachment, their extreme.
• 24:32
  Speaker 11: Attachment to a logical outcome, which is some naive belief
• 24:38
  Speaker 11: that imported wind tousand important solar panels from China, that's
• 24:41
  Speaker 11: using colon equer it's somehow going to drive an Australian
• 24:44
  Speaker 11: economy to compete with China.
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: I don't know how you do it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: In the meantime, he closed down Colon, closed down gas
• 24:51
  Speaker 11: just in case you hadn't stuffed the economy enough.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going broken backwards, Barnaby Joyce, broken backwards. So look,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Barbabie Joyces. Been great to have you on. I've got
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to say you've explained everything clearly tonight using a whiteboard
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and a ped so over there I have to use
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: it absolutely spot on, Barnaby Joyce.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Great to speak with you.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us on the show this evening.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: We'll stay with us. Coming up after the break.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Australia's relationship with Israel is on tent to Hawks after
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: another shameful betrayal of Israel by Labor, Peter Wortham joins
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: me to answer why they should why they have ultimately
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: sold out the Jewish community.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Next welcome back.
• 25:31
  Speaker 13: Well.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Labour's moral compass when it comes to the Middle East
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: has been destroyed. It doesn't have one, especially after its
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: latest shocking move voting for Palestinian statehood at the United Nations.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: The question has to be asked, why does this.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Government cowar to Hamas and coward to terrorism so frequently,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: all the while selling out our values and abandoning the
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Jewish community. Here no doubt votes in key areas like
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Western Sydney are playing a huge part. But may I
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: remind Labor Harmas only wants one state. That's a Palestinian state,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: the one Labor just voted for. Why so it can
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: wipe out Israel. Joining me now is Peter Wertheime, co
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: CEO of the Executive Council of Australian Jury. Peter, appreciate
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: your time. Look, Labour's been on the front foot about
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: this today.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: There were some comments.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Made by Mirk Butler to justify the decision, saying well,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: other countries voted for the same thing as well.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I found this perplexing.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: How can Labour say well, other countries voted for the
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: same thing at the UN, so therefore it's all okay,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: we don't have to justify our decision making.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: What do you say to that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: One of Israel's great foreign ministers once said that if
• 26:45
  Speaker 14: a motion was put before the UN General Assembly that
• 26:48
  Speaker 14: the Earth is flat and that Israel flattened, that it
• 26:51
  Speaker 14: would pass by one hundred and fifty seven budes to ten,
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: with thirteen abstentions. Obviously he was saying that tongue in cheek,
• 26:58
  Speaker 14: but it shows that Israel faces United Nations that has
• 27:05
  Speaker 14: made up these days predominantly dictatorships and semi dictatorships. That
• 27:12
  Speaker 14: wasn't always the case, but it certainly has been in
• 27:14
  Speaker 14: recent decades. More than fifty five sixty percent of UN
• 27:19
  Speaker 14: member states are in that category, and of those, I
• 27:22
  Speaker 14: would say, I think fifty six of them are members
• 27:26
  Speaker 14: of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, which are nevigat to
• 27:31
  Speaker 14: put their hand up in support of Israel.
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: There are many, many.
• 27:35
  Speaker 14: More Muslims in the world than there are Jews, and
• 27:39
  Speaker 14: so when it comes to votes, Israel is never going
• 27:42
  Speaker 14: to be able to command the same sort of numbers
• 27:44
  Speaker 14: as the.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Opposite side of the argument.
• 27:47
  Speaker 14: But brutal numbers alone do not determine what is right
• 27:51
  Speaker 14: and wrong and what is true or false. And if
• 27:55
  Speaker 14: you want a real guide to what is right or wrong,
• 27:58
  Speaker 14: or true or false, have a look at these four
• 28:01
  Speaker 14: resolutions that the government has recently changed.
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: Its vote on.
• 28:06
  Speaker 14: Have a look at how past coalition and labor governments
• 28:09
  Speaker 14: have voted on them. It's been bipartisan. They have always
• 28:13
  Speaker 14: recognized both in the way they voted and in their
• 28:16
  Speaker 14: explanations of the vote, that they appreciate that these resolutions
• 28:21
  Speaker 14: are totally one sided.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: They completely.
• 28:26
  Speaker 14: Ignore the incompetence and the role played by the Palestinian
• 28:31
  Speaker 14: leadership in creating the conflict. They ignore the fact that
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: the Palestinian side has always rejected the two state solution,
• 28:42
  Speaker 14: including when offers have been made to them by Israel
• 28:45
  Speaker 14: to achieve Palestinian statehood, and that they completely ignore all
• 28:51
  Speaker 14: of those things. In so, Australia under both Coalition and
• 28:53
  Speaker 14: Labor governments for a generation, has voted either to abstain
• 28:57
  Speaker 14: or against them. And now just in the last few days,
• 29:00
  Speaker 14: this government has thrown all that out and has decided
• 29:03
  Speaker 14: to shift the voting pattern against Israel. And I would
• 29:10
  Speaker 14: say that's mainly for domestic reasons. I can't explain it
• 29:15
  Speaker 14: any other way.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I completely agree with you, Peter.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: There's an election on the horizon and it just says
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: so much about how this government treats the community, the
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: wonderful Jewish community in this country.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: It's appalling.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Now, look, I want to ask you about this protest.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Last night.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: There was a pro Palestinian protest outside Sydney's Great Synagogue
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and forced it actually into lockdown. There were about seventy
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: who gathered, calling for sanctions against Israel and chanting anti
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Israel slogan's have a look at.
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: This the world.
• 29:45
  Speaker 15: Shoote go, you're going to vote, you go? I would
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: think than I do I need to be here?
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, Peter, you've got police telling I believe it
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: was a Jewish person telling them to leave, allowing these
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: protesters to continue outside of synagogue, forcing it into lockdown,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: making Jews feel unsafe in their own place of worship.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Is this a new low?
• 30:23
  Speaker 14: It's a low, but it's not a new low unfortunately.
• 30:26
  Speaker 14: I mean, we have seen over the last fourteen months
• 30:30
  Speaker 14: similar incidents at synagogue in Melbourne, and there have been
• 30:34
  Speaker 14: other incidents in Sydney as well. It doesn't get any
• 30:38
  Speaker 14: lower than that. I mean, a synagogue is a place
• 30:40
  Speaker 14: of worship and there is a time and place, of course,
• 30:45
  Speaker 14: for peaceful protest. That was the wrong time and the
• 30:48
  Speaker 14: wrong place. You don't go harassing people who are attending
• 30:52
  Speaker 14: a synagogue. And there are all sorts of different functions
• 30:55
  Speaker 14: that go on in the synagogue at any one time.
• 30:57
  Speaker 14: It's not that there was a meeting there that involved
• 31:01
  Speaker 14: the Technion Society, which is a university in Israel, and
• 31:06
  Speaker 14: that was the ostensible reason.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: For the protest.
• 31:08
  Speaker 14: But there are people there who are there for religious worship,
• 31:11
  Speaker 14: they're attending religious classes, there are all sorts of things
• 31:14
  Speaker 14: that go on in a place of worship, whether it's Jewish, Christian,
• 31:17
  Speaker 14: or Muslim or any other religion.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And so they were forced into lockdown.
• 31:26
  Speaker 14: And this is in Australia. I mean, we're not talking
• 31:28
  Speaker 14: about some a dictatorship in overseas. We're talking about free
• 31:32
  Speaker 14: and democratic Australia where people are supposed to enjoy religious
• 31:37
  Speaker 14: freedom without being put into a situation where then they
• 31:41
  Speaker 14: are placed in fear, placed in lockdown, not free to
• 31:45
  Speaker 14: move around simply because somebody, a small group of people
• 31:50
  Speaker 14: wanted to make a political point. There's a place to
• 31:54
  Speaker 14: make political points. But that wasn't it, and that wasn't
• 31:57
  Speaker 14: the time.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't that.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Another appalling disclay Peter were time. Really good to have
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: you on. Thank you so much for joining us on
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: the show this evening. We'll stay with us coming up
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: after the break. Australia Day is in a transition, whatever
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: that means. Our panel takes a look at a Labor
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and P's odd take on our national holiday.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Next, welcome back, Let's get straight into the panel.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Now joining me is Sky News host Caroline De Russo
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: and Sky News contributor Evelyn Ray.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Hi to both of you. Thank you so much for
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: joining me on the show this evening.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Let's start with the Australia Day debate and this very
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: strange comment by Labor and Daniel Malino on Sharry last night.
• 32:36
  Speaker 13: Australia Day has evolved further and it is fair to
• 32:40
  Speaker 13: say that it has become somewhat controversial in parts of
• 32:45
  Speaker 13: our community. And I think we're in an interesting transition
• 32:48
  Speaker 13: at the moment with Australia Day. I think as a
• 32:50
  Speaker 13: country we are going through a process where different parts
• 32:53
  Speaker 13: of our community are wanting to treat Australia Day differently.
• 32:56
  Speaker 13: I don't know what the endpoint is going to be.
• 32:58
  Speaker 13: What I'd say is there's no single rule here.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Oh please, Caroline.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: He claims Australia is in a transition when it comes
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: to Australia Day.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: What does this tell you?
• 33:10
  Speaker 16: Well that there was him not actually really wanting to
• 33:13
  Speaker 16: say anything. He's like, let me just talk for a
• 33:15
  Speaker 16: few minutes and let me say some words without pinning
• 33:17
  Speaker 16: my colors to the mast anywhere in particular, and hopefully
• 33:20
  Speaker 16: no one notices. Of course, things change all the time.
• 33:24
  Speaker 16: I don't think there's ever been one particular way that
• 33:27
  Speaker 16: Australians celebrate Australia Day. But what I do know is
• 33:32
  Speaker 16: that we have definitely and Daniel Molina is maybe a
• 33:35
  Speaker 16: little slow to the take, but plenty of other people
• 33:38
  Speaker 16: who have been very fervent in attacking Australia Day previously
• 33:43
  Speaker 16: post the Voice referendum have been have ameliorated their comments.
• 33:48
  Speaker 16: Let's just put it that way. We don't want to
• 33:51
  Speaker 16: have this argument. We just don't want to talk about it.
• 33:54
  Speaker 16: People just want to get on with it. People have
• 33:55
  Speaker 16: got much more important things to worry about in their
• 33:58
  Speaker 16: lives than have an argument over it Australia Day. I
• 34:00
  Speaker 16: think the other thing that people have realized, Janik who
• 34:03
  Speaker 16: is that changing the date is actually going to not
• 34:05
  Speaker 16: make any difference. People with agrievance will still have a
• 34:09
  Speaker 16: grievance regardless of what you do to try and make
• 34:14
  Speaker 16: whatever situation it is better. So I think the best
• 34:16
  Speaker 16: thing is we'll just get on and celebrate January twenty
• 34:19
  Speaker 16: six and let the haters hate.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: I completely agree with you.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: And interestingly, Peter Dunn says today those in charge of
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: businesses who are choosing to boycott Australia Day celebrations should
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: reconsider which country they choose to live in.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: This is what he said.
• 34:35
  Speaker 17: If they're embarrassed by our country, then you know, don't
• 34:39
  Speaker 17: live here. And let's be proud again of who we
• 34:44
  Speaker 17: are and we must live under one flag. I mean
• 34:46
  Speaker 17: this shouldn't be controversial either. If we are asking people
• 34:50
  Speaker 17: to live under different flags, how can we be united
• 34:53
  Speaker 17: as a nation, Evelyn?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Is he right? Yeah?
• 34:57
  Speaker 18: Look, you know, nobody has to blindly support everything that
• 35:01
  Speaker 18: their country does or has historically done.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: But what we are talking about here.
• 35:05
  Speaker 18: Is throwing disproportionate and dishonest shade and shame on the
• 35:10
  Speaker 18: ancestors of the majority of Australias, you know, those who
• 35:14
  Speaker 18: built this nation into what it is today, the benefits
• 35:17
  Speaker 18: of which we still all enjoy, including the haters. So
• 35:21
  Speaker 18: in that sense he's absolutely correct, although considering what recently
• 35:26
  Speaker 18: happened to Pauline Hanson, I'm not sure we're allowed to
• 35:29
  Speaker 18: say it out loud anymore. But honestly, he's just saying
• 35:33
  Speaker 18: what every Australian who loves.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: This country is thinking.
• 35:37
  Speaker 18: And you know, this is a fantastic saying that I
• 35:39
  Speaker 18: once heard, and it's very simple and it's exactly what
• 35:42
  Speaker 18: we should all be doing. You either love the country
• 35:45
  Speaker 18: you live in, or you live in the country you
• 35:47
  Speaker 18: love full stop spot.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is perfectly summarized. You're right in the end,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: you should be proud if you live here. Why not
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: be proud and why not not feel ashamed to show it?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I completely agree. Now, look, let's talk about this next topic.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: It's been revealed taxpayers forked out close to twenty thousand
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: dollars for lavish flower displays and forty four thousand dollars
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: for Jessica Malboy to sing at an exclusive event where
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister wined and dined world leaders. This was
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: for the Asian Australia Special Summit at the National Gallery
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: of Victoria. Back in March, Caroline twenty thousand on flowers alone,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: does labor know where at a cost of living crisis?
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: What's your take?
• 36:28
  Speaker 16: Well, we are in a cost of living crisis, but
• 36:31
  Speaker 16: unfortunately flowers aren't cheap. Flowers are most definitely not cheap.
• 36:36
  Speaker 16: So we talk about twenty thousand as being here, and
• 36:38
  Speaker 16: it is a huge amount of money. Look, there are
• 36:40
  Speaker 16: certain things that our government does and should do. And look,
• 36:46
  Speaker 16: if it's Asian and you're entertaining world leaders, that I understand.
• 36:52
  Speaker 16: I mean the French state dinner when the King and
• 36:55
  Speaker 16: Queen went to visit was half a million.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 36:57
  Speaker 16: So I think that you know, that's it. It's a
• 37:00
  Speaker 16: lot of money, but in comparison, it's really not too bad.
• 37:04
  Speaker 16: But really, we shouldn't be focusing on these things, Janika.
• 37:07
  Speaker 16: We should be focusing on the millions and the billions
• 37:11
  Speaker 16: of taxpayers dollars that are wasted every other day by
• 37:16
  Speaker 16: government because that's actually where you make big changes. You
• 37:21
  Speaker 16: make big changes where you deliver more value to the taxpayers.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it is a little bit off.
• 37:27
  Speaker 16: I understand we need to we need to entertain foreign guests.
• 37:31
  Speaker 16: I have no difficulty in that sense. They're things that
• 37:34
  Speaker 16: we do. But let's talk about the big numbers now.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Look, look I understand that argument.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: And look, speaking of cost of living off the back
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: of the worst GDP result in fifty years, we're in
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: a household recession.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: People can't pay their bills.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: But Albo's priority of the day to day was to
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: share his Spotify rap playlist.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Have a look at this.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: He posted this to x with his top songs of
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the year.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: There they are half of them I haven't even heard of.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: And then just spend some time making a mock up
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: of Peter Dutton's playlist as well making a mockery of
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Dutton's year.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it says, you know, Evelyn.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: People can't even pay their bills at the moment, let
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: alone spend money every month paying for a Spotify music service.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: How tone deaf is this post? Yeah?
• 38:18
  Speaker 18: Look, I think most politicians these days need to learn
• 38:21
  Speaker 18: how to read the room. They are so disconnected from
• 38:25
  Speaker 18: the Australian public it's insane. But you know, it's all
• 38:29
  Speaker 18: bread and circuses, only this time we can't afford the
• 38:32
  Speaker 18: bread and the clowns are painfully unfunny and they can't meme.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Look, they're not taking.
• 38:38
  Speaker 18: It seriously, which is why they keep throwing distractions in
• 38:41
  Speaker 18: the mix. You know, the Misinformation Bill banning kids from
• 38:45
  Speaker 18: social media.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: And now Spotify wraps.
• 38:47
  Speaker 18: It's all an illusion to make the Australian people think
• 38:50
  Speaker 18: that they're really busy and that they're getting things done.
• 38:54
  Speaker 18: But you know, thankfully, I don't think the public are
• 38:56
  Speaker 18: buying it anymore because they're the ones who are struggling
• 38:59
  Speaker 18: under the way eight of the bloated and incompetent political class.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, it's such distraction. Now.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Look, Sydney's gay and lesbian Marty Grara, is seeking to
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: ban New South Wales Police from marching at next year's
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: parade until quote such time as they demonstrate a commitment
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: to improving relationships with LGBTQI plus communities. Caroline, what happened
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: to the left being the most tolerant and accepting of
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: them all?
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was always a ruse. They're not tolerant
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: at all. They're not compassionate at all.
• 39:32
  Speaker 16: They're actually quite This is quite authoritarian and quite absoluteis
• 39:36
  Speaker 16: And what I really want to know is what does
• 39:39
  Speaker 16: the New South Wales Police have to do? How do
• 39:42
  Speaker 16: they have to genuflect sufficiently that it demonstrates to whoever
• 39:47
  Speaker 16: this management committee is that they've done enough. This is
• 39:51
  Speaker 16: the thing when you actually think about where our society
• 39:54
  Speaker 16: has moved over the last twenty thirty years in relation
• 39:59
  Speaker 16: to LGBT rights. I mean it has been massive, but
• 40:04
  Speaker 16: it's still not good enough. Apparently, so I would really
• 40:07
  Speaker 16: like to know, actually what would be good enough.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Good question, Evelyn.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're a former police officer yourself, what do
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: you make of this ban for officers?
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: It's the call for it.
• 40:17
  Speaker 18: Look, I think it's good, but perhaps not for the
• 40:19
  Speaker 18: same reason that the people in the LGBT community think
• 40:22
  Speaker 18: that it's good. But I don't think they should be
• 40:24
  Speaker 18: involved in these sorts of.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Events at all.
• 40:27
  Speaker 18: You know, regardless of what people say, these events are
• 40:30
  Speaker 18: not politically, morally, ideologically, or religiously neutral. They're just not,
• 40:37
  Speaker 18: you know, and a good portion of the community don't
• 40:39
  Speaker 18: share those same views. And police should remain neutral in
• 40:43
  Speaker 18: all such matters because they have to, like they should
• 40:47
  Speaker 18: be objective and impartial under the justice and under law.
• 40:51
  Speaker 18: You know, whether it's involvement in ideological issues like this,
• 40:55
  Speaker 18: whether as Black Lives Matter or anything else, you know
• 40:58
  Speaker 18: that it has to always remain neutral. And something that
• 41:02
  Speaker 18: I think we often dismiss or we don't really appreciate
• 41:05
  Speaker 18: is the fact that how rare it is to have
• 41:08
  Speaker 18: a good relationship between law enforcement and civilian Historically speaking,
• 41:13
  Speaker 18: it's just not heard of, and we've actually achieved that
• 41:16
  Speaker 18: here in Australia past tense, being deliberate, you know, And
• 41:20
  Speaker 18: so I think the police need to be very careful
• 41:23
  Speaker 18: where they're drawing lines and what communities they're dividing, because
• 41:26
  Speaker 18: they're going to squander something that's very rare and very good,
• 41:30
  Speaker 18: which is law enforcement and civilian having a healthy bridge
• 41:34
  Speaker 18: between the.
• 41:34
  Speaker 16: Two of them.
• 41:35
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 41:36
  Speaker 18: I just think that this is actually a good thing,
• 41:39
  Speaker 18: and I think that it should be like this with
• 41:41
  Speaker 18: the fire Brigade, with the Ambulance Service. All of the
• 41:44
  Speaker 18: government agencies should always remain neutral, objective and impartial. It's
• 41:49
  Speaker 18: the best way to stop division in all communities.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, completely agree with you, Caroline de Russo, Evelin Ray,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: we've run out of time. Thank you so much for
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: joining us on the show this evening, or stay with
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: us up next, we go live to London for a
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: look at the Premier League captain who's been attacked for
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: showcasing his religious beliefs, and guests who's managed to avoid
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the same scrutiny.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: That's next, Well, how's this for hypocrisy and sport.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: The captain of UK soccer team Crystal Palace, who is
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: a Christian, wore an adapted rainbow armband twice. The player
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: wrote I Love Jesus and then Jesus Loves You on
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: his rainbow armband and faced an investigation by the Football
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Association because of it. On the other hand, a Muslim
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: player for Manchester United refused to wear a pro LGBT
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: warm up jacket, also citing religious beliefs, so plans for
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: the team to wear the jacket were scrapped altogether. Joining
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: me now from London is gbn u's host Patrick Christie's Patrick,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: thanks for joining me. Why was the Christian player threatened
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: with punishment but not the Muslim player.
• 42:54
  Speaker 19: Well, it's a very good question, isn't it. I thought
• 42:56
  Speaker 19: we were a Christian country, but apparently we might not be.
• 42:59
  Speaker 19: You can get away with it anything these days. It's
• 43:01
  Speaker 19: exposed the woke league table of Britain and unfortunately Islam
• 43:06
  Speaker 19: is right at the top of that woke league table.
• 43:09
  Speaker 19: It is then followed by LGBTQ, which is what this
• 43:12
  Speaker 19: whole thing was about. Then it's followed by Black Lives Matter,
• 43:15
  Speaker 19: which our football players are. Soccer players have to take
• 43:18
  Speaker 19: the knee for before the start of pretty much every
• 43:21
  Speaker 19: single Premier League game, and then if you happen to
• 43:23
  Speaker 19: be a Christian, you know, how dare you? But if
• 43:26
  Speaker 19: you happen to be a Christian, then you're back of
• 43:29
  Speaker 19: the queue. And this guy, Mark Gay, who has played
• 43:32
  Speaker 19: center back for England at the Late as Euros and
• 43:36
  Speaker 19: did a very good job, he happens to be a
• 43:38
  Speaker 19: Christian and he wore the rainbow armband, so he didn't
• 43:41
  Speaker 19: take it off.
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: He wore the rainbow armband, but.
• 43:44
  Speaker 19: He happened to also say Jesus loves you on top
• 43:47
  Speaker 19: of it, because his father is a Christian preacher. Well
• 43:49
  Speaker 19: he's been reprimanded and the Muslim players have not. I
• 43:54
  Speaker 19: think that's quite astonishing really, just about the question what
• 43:57
  Speaker 19: are our priorities in Britain?
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely speaks real volumes of where we're at in
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: society as well.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Now, Patrick, I love this next one.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Our reform MP wants left wing MPs who welcome asylum
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: seekers to be allowed to.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: House one in their own homes.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Patrick, Has anyone on the left volunteered to open their
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: doors now?
• 44:19
  Speaker 19: Obviously not because it would be oh, I don't know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 19: maybe unsafe. Maybe you haven't got the space and maybe
• 44:24
  Speaker 19: you can't afford it, which is a bit like our country. Okay,
• 44:28
  Speaker 19: but the problem is that they are actually left wing
• 44:31
  Speaker 19: MPs are now going to celebrate the opening of migrant
• 44:36
  Speaker 19: hotels within their own constituencies, and they bracket this is, oh,
• 44:41
  Speaker 19: we're going to protest the far right.
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: Now you're not.
• 44:43
  Speaker 19: You're going to celebrate the opening of these hotels. It's
• 44:46
  Speaker 19: quite interesting. Not a single person has volunteered to put
• 44:49
  Speaker 19: all of these people in their own heads. It costs
• 44:51
  Speaker 19: a British taxpayer about eight million pounds every single day
• 44:56
  Speaker 19: to house all of these asylum seekers. It's a huge problem.
• 45:00
  Speaker 19: It's a massive safety concern and it's not going away
• 45:03
  Speaker 19: anytime soon. The Prime Minister, by the way that we've
• 45:06
  Speaker 19: got now has told us that he was going to
• 45:08
  Speaker 19: stop the boats. Okay, he was going to stop the
• 45:10
  Speaker 19: illegal crossings of illegal migrants. Well, he voted fourteen times
• 45:16
  Speaker 19: whilst it was in opposition against the toughening of asylum
• 45:20
  Speaker 19: seeker laws. So it's not going to happen. Is The
• 45:23
  Speaker 19: only thing he's done is remarkably not stop the boats,
• 45:27
  Speaker 19: but stop the oats. He has actually managed to ban
• 45:30
  Speaker 19: the advertising of porridge in Britain because he thinks it's unhealthy,
• 45:35
  Speaker 19: but he continues to allow illegal immigrants to come across
• 45:38
  Speaker 19: the channel.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Please can you expand on this banned porridge oats?
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: I'm confused? Why tell us?
• 45:47
  Speaker 19: Yeah, so porridge is now unhealthy apparently, and you cannot
• 45:51
  Speaker 19: advertise it before nine pm on national television in case
• 45:56
  Speaker 19: kids get fat. The problem with this, since they initially
• 46:00
  Speaker 19: introduced these laws right about advertising, there's been a fifty
• 46:04
  Speaker 19: three percent increase in obese kids, so it's having the
• 46:08
  Speaker 19: opposite effect. You know what, You can advertise sausage rolls,
• 46:13
  Speaker 19: an Islamic bank that is being advertised by an Islamic cleric,
• 46:18
  Speaker 19: and assisted dyeing. You can advertise that. You can advertise
• 46:23
  Speaker 19: literal death, but you're not allowed to advertise orage.
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, some.
• 46:28
  Speaker 19: People say that the left wing are absolutely bonkers. I say,
• 46:33
  Speaker 19: I know they are because I'm living in it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is just extraordinary, Patrick, I don't even
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: know what to say. Go figure, what on earth is
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: labor doing in the UK, labor here in Australia, labor
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: in the UK. It's all very very bizarre to me. Now,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: the royal family has welcomed the Emir of Qatar forest
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: state visit. I noticed that Kate Middleton, she returned as
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: you can say, they're to royal duties.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: This was the first state visit.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: She's attended after her cancer treatment. But what stumped me
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: was that the mail was lined with Katari flags.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Patrick.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: They seem to really roll out the red carpet for
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: this visit.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: But one issue.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Kata continues to house humas operatives and it knows it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: So why has the red carpet been rolled out here?
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: Look?
• 47:21
  Speaker 19: This is actually insane, Okay, So our royal family currently
• 47:26
  Speaker 19: is made to go to places like Australia and apologize
• 47:29
  Speaker 19: for our historical wrongs, right, whether or not you think
• 47:32
  Speaker 19: they are wrongs that we're made to apologize, Whereas we
• 47:34
  Speaker 19: are allowed to welcome the Kataris who currently keep slaves
• 47:39
  Speaker 19: and use those slaves to build things like, oh, I
• 47:42
  Speaker 19: don't know, World Cup stadiums. They are an oil rich nation,
• 47:47
  Speaker 19: so they're not particularly environmentally friendly. I mean, the Katari
• 47:51
  Speaker 19: emir brought his first wife, not his second or third wife. Obviously,
• 47:55
  Speaker 19: you know, why would you, right, and we decorate the
• 47:58
  Speaker 19: mail in the flats?
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: Why on earth are our.
• 48:01
  Speaker 19: Royal fum they being made to apologize for historical wrongs
• 48:06
  Speaker 19: but rolling out the red carpet for I mean, some
• 48:08
  Speaker 19: would argue, like the worst people in the world, right,
• 48:12
  Speaker 19: why are we doing this?
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: That's a really, really great question. It beggars belief. Patrick
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Christie is always good to speak with you. Thank you
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: so much for joining us live from London this evening.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. Yeah, I've got to say, you know,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Patrick raises a good point there the woke in Sport,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: as we heard with the Christian and the Muslim.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Situation, it's here in Australia as well.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: We've got a lot of wokism in Sport and it's
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: frightening that we are at this point in the world
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Well that is it from me tonight. Thank you for
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: your company.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I'll be back tomorrow night with my own show, but
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: do stay with us because James McPherson is up next
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: with Sharry Goodnight.