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Breaking down Halos' regime change, their new FanDuel Sports TV deal and the WBC; ESPN's Alden Gonzalez joins · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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Speaker 1: Well, hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo territory.
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Speaker 1: I am Mike di Giovanna, former La Times Baseball writer
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Speaker 1: and host of the show, joined by my regular co
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Speaker 1: host Mark Trumbo, the former Angel slugger, and Alden Gonzalez
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Speaker 1: of ESPN, and welcome to the show.
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Speaker 2: Alden, good to have you.
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Speaker 3: Great to be here, guys, thanks for having me.
0:28
Speaker 1: Thanks, we appreciate it. We're going to have several topics
0:31
Speaker 1: to talk about today, including some interesting Angel highlights from
0:36
Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classic, a new team, well, a new
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Speaker 1: TV deal kind of for the Angels. Looks like we
0:42
Speaker 1: have some resolution on that. But first we're going to
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Speaker 1: talk about a story that Alden broke early Friday morning,
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Speaker 1: and that has to do with a regime change at
0:52
Speaker 1: the top of the Angels organization. John Carpino, team president
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Speaker 1: for the last sixteen years Ardi Morino was right hand
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Speaker 1: man for the last twenty three years, announced his resignation
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Speaker 1: and he will be replaced by Molly Jolly the pretty
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Speaker 1: much the chief financial officer of the Angels.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: I can't say I was shocked by this move, considering
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Speaker 1: John a sixty six and sort of right in that
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Speaker 1: sweet spot of retirement. But for any either of you,
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Speaker 1: two guys alten start with you, did the timing sort
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Speaker 1: of seem a little odd. I mean, right at the
1:24
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, I supposed to the end of
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Speaker 1: a season.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I was not. Look, Ardi Marino
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Speaker 3: putting the team up for sale and then backing out,
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Speaker 3: I think kind of created sort of a weird environment
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Speaker 3: for everybody where. There were a lot of people at
1:39
Speaker 3: very prominent positions in the organization John Carpedo included, who
1:43
Speaker 3: thought they were on their way out and all of
1:45
Speaker 3: a sudden they were back in. And look he is,
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Speaker 3: as you said, he's sixty six years old. I had
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Speaker 3: heard you wanted to spend a little bit more time
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Speaker 3: with his family. These last few years obviously have been
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Speaker 3: really difficult on the organization as a whole, on him specifically,
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Speaker 3: I would imagine. But yeah, I was shocked that this happened. Now.
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Speaker 3: As for what it's going to mean moving forward, I
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Speaker 3: think that's the open question here. Look, Molly Jolly's name
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Speaker 3: got panned on social media, predictably, but I've heard from
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Speaker 3: a lot of people in the organization who speak really
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Speaker 3: highly of her. She's been there since even before Artie
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Speaker 3: Moreno took over the team. She worked for the Walt
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Speaker 3: Disney Company when it was under their ownership for about
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Speaker 3: three years before Artie Moreno stepped in. She's been a
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Speaker 3: really prominent role. She's gonna be the first woman now
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Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball, I believe, who heads up both
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Speaker 3: the business side and the baseball operation side. And I mean, look,
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Speaker 3: she's not going to have a say on how the
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Speaker 3: roster shapes up, or who they draft or anything like that,
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Speaker 3: but Perry Manazien does answer to her. The thing though,
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Speaker 3: is that she does answer to Artie Moreno. So what
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Speaker 3: that changes, What that means? I think that's going to
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Speaker 3: be the interesting thing.
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Speaker 2: Mark is a former player.
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Speaker 1: Does a move like that as you're in the middle
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Speaker 1: of spring training have any impact in the clubhouse?
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Speaker 2: Do players notice that?
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Speaker 1: Do they care about it?
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Speaker 2: Couldn't care less? Yeah, how much should I?
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Speaker 4: At least in my opinion, that's you know, that's a
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Speaker 4: move that effects I think probably the fan base a
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Speaker 4: lot more than the players. But we'll have to see
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Speaker 4: how it plays out. And I appreciate Alden here shedding light.
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Speaker 4: He's not wearing his suit, which I normally see it
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Speaker 4: on the field. But I appreciate you taking the time
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Speaker 4: to explain the situation because for a lot of people,
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Speaker 4: it is it does seem about Mike. To answer your question,
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Speaker 4: timing wise, why now who knows?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that at first, but then I started
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Speaker 1: to think, well, maybe John really felt the need to
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Speaker 1: sort of shepherd this TV deal through. In granted, there's
3:48
Speaker 1: still a lot of work to be done in terms of,
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Speaker 1: you know, lining up advertisers and programming and all that
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Speaker 1: for this TV deal, but that's the only thing I
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Speaker 1: can think of in terms of the timing of it.
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Speaker 1: You know, he probably wanted to at least get that
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Speaker 1: major task office plate. How do we think this change
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Speaker 1: at the top will impact the club, Alden.
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Speaker 3: I'm interested to see if and I know this is
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Speaker 3: probably not what fans want to hear, but like, if
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Speaker 3: there's different stuff that they do around the ballpark, if
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Speaker 3: there's different promotional stuff that the Angels do, maybe Christmas
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Speaker 3: in July no longer exists, which we could only hope
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Speaker 3: that Christmas in July ceases to exist. But I think
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Speaker 3: there was a thought with the organization and you guys,
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Speaker 3: you guys would not be surprised to hear this but
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Speaker 3: the thing's got stale for a while. And I'm not
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Speaker 3: even just talking about the player side, the roster construction side,
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Speaker 3: we can get into that that obviously did, but just promotionally,
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Speaker 3: the things at the ballpark, the amenities, all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: So like bringing in sort of a fresh set of eye,
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Speaker 3: not a fresh set of eyes, but somebody in more
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Speaker 3: of a leadership position has the power to do stuff
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Speaker 3: like that. I'm interested to see what if anything on
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Speaker 3: the media side, Like the fact that the Angels radio
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Speaker 3: broadcast crew doesn't travel with the team is insane. The
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Speaker 3: fact that they're in a market like Anaheim in southern
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Speaker 3: California and they have such limited amount of Spanish language broadcasts.
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Speaker 3: It is just a space that they're not tapping into,
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Speaker 3: which I never understood. On the John Carpino had a
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Speaker 3: lot to say on the media side. What changes on
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Speaker 3: the media side, What changes on the promotional side? You know,
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Speaker 3: That's the stuff I'm interested in. But the stuff that matters,
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Speaker 3: and Mark could speak to this is what happens on
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Speaker 3: the field, and I don't know that anything's going to
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Speaker 3: change there. I hate to break it to everybody. The
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Speaker 3: budget's not changing. The local media situation is not getting
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Speaker 3: much better. And at the end of the day, the
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Speaker 3: issues that plague the Angels are not having a long
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Speaker 3: term vision, not investing enough in player development, and not
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Speaker 3: getting all the different elements of the organization aligned to
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Speaker 3: build a good cohesive organization. These are the things that
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Speaker 3: have played the Angels for I don't know, ten fifteen
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Speaker 3: years especially. That's the stuff that really needs to change,
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Speaker 3: and that's the stuff that can only change I think
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Speaker 3: from the very top, and that's above Molly Jolly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always hard to tell how much a team
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Speaker 1: president is involved in baseball decisions. I do think John
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Speaker 1: Carpino was a little more involved than many As we
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Speaker 1: remember Alden, it was John Carpino and Arty Moreno who
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Speaker 1: traveled to Texas in the winter before the twenty thirteen
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Speaker 1: season and signed Josh Hamilton pretty much behind Jerry Depoto
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Speaker 1: the GM's back, I wonder, and maybe all in our
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Speaker 1: mark ands speak to this. With Molly Jolly taking over
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Speaker 1: as a president and her background mainly in finance and
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Speaker 1: running the business side of the club, is this going
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Speaker 1: to leave more power baseball wise in the hands of
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Speaker 1: Periminaesium general manager.
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Speaker 3: Well, I could answer this first I never really got
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Speaker 3: the sense that, I know Josh Hamilton is an extreme example.
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Speaker 3: I never got the sense that John Carpino meddled a
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Speaker 3: lot in baseball operations. I think he tried his best
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Speaker 3: to support that aspect of it. But the person who
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Speaker 3: gets involved in baseball operations is already Moreno, and so
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Speaker 3: I don't think Perry Manazien is gonna have any more
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Speaker 3: or less autonomy than he ever did. And look, I'm
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Speaker 3: not saying that already impacts who they draft or specific
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Speaker 3: targets and free agency. I will also say that once
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Speaker 3: you get to certain price points, owners always get involved,
7:42
Speaker 3: especially when you're talking about nine figure contracts and stuff
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Speaker 3: like that, owners will get involved. But when you're talking
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Speaker 3: about like not trading players at the trade that line,
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Speaker 3: when they're clearly not winning, you know, that's not a
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Speaker 3: John Carpino thing. That's an already Moreno thing, you know. So, like,
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much is going to change there.
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Speaker 3: Like I said before, Artie Moreno's still owns this team,
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Speaker 3: for better or worse. Perry Monazian's marching orders, the way
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Speaker 3: he goes about his job. A lot of this is
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Speaker 3: sort of under the vision of what Artie Marino wants
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Speaker 3: for this franchise and so in many ways, And I've
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Speaker 3: said this before about Perry, I don't know where he
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Speaker 3: ends and already begins, and I kind of felt that
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Speaker 3: with Carpino as well. I don't know where he ends
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Speaker 3: and already begins right like good and bad. So we'll
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Speaker 3: see still the same order.
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Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo Territory. I guess is all
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Speaker 1: in Gonzales the ESPN. Here's kind of a million dollar question.
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Speaker 1: Do we feel that John Carpino's resignation or retirement at
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Speaker 1: this point is an indication that already is going to
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Speaker 1: soon sell the team.
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Speaker 3: I have no idea. I have no idea. I don't
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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody I would say, and I'm just guessing.
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Speaker 3: I would say it's the opposite again just to guess,
10:12
Speaker 3: but I would think that when Arti Marino sells the team,
10:15
Speaker 3: the team somebody like John Carpino would stand to make
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Speaker 3: a lot of money off of transaction like that, So
10:23
Speaker 3: I was if you brought You asked at the top
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Speaker 3: of the show about whether I was surprised. I think
10:27
Speaker 3: that was an element for me that was surprising, which
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Speaker 3: was and again I don't know this for sure, but
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Speaker 3: my assumption would be that he would have waited for
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Speaker 3: Artie to sell the team and then he could make
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Speaker 3: a lot of money off that transaction. The fact that
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Speaker 3: he didn't makes me think maybe we don't know when
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Speaker 3: he's going to sell the team.
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Speaker 2: That's just my thought, Mark, I don't know. I do
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Speaker 2: know that.
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Speaker 4: All I can say is that John, on a personal
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Speaker 4: level always was was really good to me seeing him
10:59
Speaker 4: throughout the years. He was far more visible than some others,
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Speaker 4: and he was willing to have a conversation. Met his
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Speaker 4: son when he was much younger. Now he's probably taller
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Speaker 4: than me, but you know, and when the Cowboys stadium open,
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Speaker 4: for example, we were I got a video somewhere of
11:15
Speaker 4: Trout kicking a field goal many years ago. John was
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Speaker 4: there for that too, So so those were good memories.
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Speaker 4: I did worry a little when I'd see him at
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Speaker 4: the stadium in recent years. He was visible. He was
11:27
Speaker 4: out there running around. One of the days was a
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Speaker 4: Hawaiian shirt giveaway. It was felt like a hundred ish degrees.
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Speaker 4: Him and Gooby were dripping with sweat, but hustling around
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Speaker 4: the ballpark promoting these giveaway shirts. I'm not sure any
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Speaker 4: of these giveaways need promotions, because the line is, you know,
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Speaker 4: down down the street, no matter what it is, gas
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Speaker 4: station hat or you know, tawny bobblehead obviously no longer,
11:54
Speaker 4: but that drew a lot of interest. Altan, I'm sure
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Speaker 4: you have a couple of those. But John John was
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Speaker 4: was really good to me as far as the time
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Speaker 4: in I don't know. I think my preference would be
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Speaker 4: for baseball people to evaluate baseball talent, and if Molly
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Speaker 4: has a keen eye for scouting and baseball talent evaluation,
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Speaker 4: then go for it. And if not, make sure someone
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Speaker 4: that is versed in that probably does that.
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Speaker 2: Usually.
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Alder, maybe you can what's the structure
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Speaker 4: of like front offices Dodgers would be one? Andrew Friedman's
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Speaker 4: title there is what.
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Speaker 3: He is the executive He is president, so.
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Speaker 2: That would be a Molly's title is also that.
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Speaker 3: No, Molly's title is actually, and look, the Angels front
12:49
Speaker 3: office is a lot smaller than most front offices. Most
12:52
Speaker 3: offices have a president baseball operations, but more. Molly's position
12:55
Speaker 3: now is like what Stan Caston is, right, So like
12:58
Speaker 3: stan Casten works below the ownership group. His title is CEO,
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Speaker 3: so like these titles can be nominal. But Molly is like,
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Speaker 3: the next person below already is my understanding, So that
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Speaker 3: is the equivalent of what Stan Caston is. Stan Kasten
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Speaker 3: oversees the business side, and he sees the baseball operation side.
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Speaker 3: Andrew Freeman reports to Stan cast and just like Perry,
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Speaker 3: general manager reports tomorrow. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The reason I asked that question is I have seen
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Speaker 1: speculation online that, you know, people somehow think this is
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Speaker 1: an indication already's going to sell. I agree with all
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Speaker 1: of them. I think it's the exact opposite when when
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Speaker 1: I already put the team up for sale in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, right, I think John would have been
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Speaker 1: sixty two. Then he was probably looking at a really
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Speaker 1: sweet golden parachute, you know, a chunk of that sale
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Speaker 1: and retiring at sixty two it would have been pretty nice.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember how old his son is, and how
13:52
Speaker 1: old his kids are, but I'm pretty sure then they
13:54
Speaker 1: were still in high school, and when already pulled the
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Speaker 1: team off the market. I don't think John would ever
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Speaker 1: admit this to me publicly or privately. Even I think
14:03
Speaker 1: he was bombed out because the last four years, I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's had to endure just more losing and more grief.
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Speaker 1: And I can't imagine, even though as long as John's
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Speaker 1: been with Arty, it can't be easy working for ARTI
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Speaker 1: I want to remind readers or listeners of a quote
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Speaker 1: from John Carpino, and this came. It was a lead
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Speaker 1: to a story I wrote on the How Just the
14:30
Speaker 1: Angels Lost Decade in twenty twenty two. But this was
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Speaker 1: after the twenty twenty season when the Angels somehow managed
14:38
Speaker 1: to not make the playoffs despite an expanded sixteen team
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Speaker 1: playoff field, and John was in a zoom call with
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Speaker 1: Joe Madden and he said, obviously we're not doing it
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Speaker 1: the right way. We're not winning games, so something is
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Speaker 1: not right in our organization. Now, mind you, this was
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Speaker 1: now six years ago. Did did did John? Did the Angels?
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Speaker 1: Have they gotten anything right since then? I mean they
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Speaker 1: did hire Perry after that, and I don't think they've
15:11
Speaker 1: gotten much right at all. Is there anything you feel
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Speaker 1: like they've done well in these last four or five years.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, I think one thing they did do well
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Speaker 3: or at least start focusing on a little bit more,
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Speaker 3: is sort of building kind of a young nucleus, right so,
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Speaker 3: and Perry talks about this all the time. And look,
15:29
Speaker 3: Zach Netto, Logan o'hoppy, Joe Adell has kind of emerged
15:34
Speaker 3: a little bit yet a nice season last year. You
15:39
Speaker 3: have Nolan Shanwell too.
15:40
Speaker 2: Like.
15:41
Speaker 3: They have a position player group that is kind of
15:45
Speaker 3: starting to emerge, which has been nice to see. But look,
15:50
Speaker 3: the Rockies have a group like that too, right Like.
15:52
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to say anything against Netto and
15:54
Speaker 3: Shanwell and o hoping these guys there they could be
15:56
Speaker 3: great ballplayers. But my point is that you need a
15:58
Speaker 3: lot more than that. And the problem with the Angels
16:01
Speaker 3: is that they continue to be sort of in this
16:04
Speaker 3: vicious cycle where every off season, if you look at
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Speaker 3: the totality of their forty man roster, they have about
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Speaker 3: like fifteen I'm just making up a number, fifteen eighteen
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Speaker 3: twenty holes that need to plug. And they don't have
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Speaker 3: a ton of money to do it, and so they
16:17
Speaker 3: have to go bargain hunting in free agency and sign
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Speaker 3: a bunch of guys to NRIs, guys who when they
16:23
Speaker 3: defa them, nobody claims them on waivers sort of like bottom.
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Speaker 3: They have to scrape the bottom of the barrel a
16:28
Speaker 3: lot to just sort of plug forty man roster holes.
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Speaker 3: And these are guys who, when people inevitably get hurt,
16:34
Speaker 3: they end up having a large say on seasons. And
16:37
Speaker 3: so you can't have both, right, Like, so you can't
16:41
Speaker 3: be a team that doesn't have that steady pipeline of
16:44
Speaker 3: talent coming through the farm system and then also not
16:48
Speaker 3: have an owner who's spending a ton of money to
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Speaker 3: make up for it, Okay, And then when you don't
16:52
Speaker 3: have either of the two, you get sort of stuck
16:55
Speaker 3: in these situations where every year you're kind of trying
16:59
Speaker 3: to win and if you squint a little bit and
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Speaker 3: maybe nobody gets hurt, maybe they have a chance to
17:03
Speaker 3: get in the wildcard round. But we know that, like
17:05
Speaker 3: that's clearly not how baseball seasons play out, and so
17:09
Speaker 3: they just keep getting stuck in this rut. And then
17:11
Speaker 3: it seems as if every summer they're kind of out
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Speaker 3: of it, but maybe they have like a five percent
17:17
Speaker 3: chance to make the playoffs. And they have these pending
17:19
Speaker 3: free agents and they don't trade any of them and
17:21
Speaker 3: they don't get any future value back, and it's just
17:23
Speaker 3: sort of a difficult way to build organizations. And that's why.
17:27
Speaker 3: And look, the Angels will say this, and I think
17:29
Speaker 3: to some degree, like I agree with them that, like
17:32
Speaker 3: Artie Moreno has never torn it down to the studs
17:35
Speaker 3: and like sold the rebuild to him, like the entertainment
17:39
Speaker 3: product on a nightly basis, like people like just in
17:42
Speaker 3: a vacuum, people showing up to the ballpark and having
17:45
Speaker 3: a team that they're kind of excited about, Like that
17:48
Speaker 3: matters to him. He doesn't want to like intentionally lose.
17:52
Speaker 3: The problem is, though, they've been occupying this middle space
17:56
Speaker 3: now for ten years and it doesn't seem like it's
17:58
Speaker 3: going anywhere, and they keep hyping up this young nucleus
18:02
Speaker 3: of theirs. But jo Adell is now going to be
18:05
Speaker 3: a free agent in two years, Zach Nettle's going to
18:07
Speaker 3: start getting expensive. Logan o'happy is too. That's kind of
18:11
Speaker 3: starting the age too, And they still haven't sort of
18:14
Speaker 3: caught up to that, they haven't developed pitching, they haven't
18:17
Speaker 3: signed big free agents. The ones they have signed have
18:20
Speaker 3: turned out to be Anthony Rendon. So like, it's just
18:23
Speaker 3: it's hard to see sort of where they're going here,
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Speaker 3: Like I don't know how they get out of this,
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Speaker 3: is my point in Mark. I don't know if you'll
18:32
Speaker 3: disagree with me, but it's just it's tough, Like if
18:34
Speaker 3: you're an Angels fan right now, like I don't know
18:36
Speaker 3: what the light at the end of the tunnel is.
18:39
Speaker 2: That's why you're here to tell us.
18:42
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like i'm talking.
18:43
Speaker 4: You seem to be pointing out a lot of the things,
18:47
Speaker 4: and I don't know if anyone has the answers, But
18:50
Speaker 4: what what do you see a team like the Sacramento
18:54
Speaker 4: Las Vegas Athletics, Uhland whatever, They have talented young players.
19:01
Speaker 4: They are also signing some free agents Severino and others
19:07
Speaker 4: to contracts that are not nothing. I mean, these are
19:09
Speaker 4: some significant dollars being spent. How are they And if
19:14
Speaker 4: you're not an expert in them, that's fine, But I
19:16
Speaker 4: keep looking at them and saying, how did they get
19:19
Speaker 4: because it's really over the last four or five years
19:21
Speaker 4: they've done it so I didn't you know, was it
19:23
Speaker 4: a total rebuild? Not exactly, but it's a lot better
19:27
Speaker 4: looking product.
19:29
Speaker 3: Well it kind of was. And I will say, just
19:32
Speaker 3: as an aside, you're doing this because it's your podcast,
19:35
Speaker 3: and I see what you're doing. You're taking these little
19:37
Speaker 3: swipes at me, and then you change the conversation and
19:39
Speaker 3: then I can't retaliate. But I just want you to
19:41
Speaker 3: know that I'm writing these down. Okay, at one point
19:43
Speaker 3: you told me that I own many Otani bobbleheads, and
19:45
Speaker 3: then you gave me craft for wearing a suit, which
19:47
Speaker 3: is standard. Fair, that's fine, but I'm making a note
19:50
Speaker 3: of these. I'm not forgetting these just because you sort
19:52
Speaker 3: of segue into else. I see what you're doing.
19:54
Speaker 4: Even you started talking about your swings in the cage.
19:58
Speaker 4: Yet so we get today that video, I've broken.
20:02
Speaker 2: Down plenty of time to talk about it, but I
20:08
Speaker 2: can't wait for that.
20:09
Speaker 4: Why don't you talk about the A's or another team
20:11
Speaker 4: you think has has done things the right way?
20:14
Speaker 3: I I'll happily talk about the A's. They this is
20:17
Speaker 3: what this is what they do? Uh, the A's. I
20:20
Speaker 3: mean there's a movie about this, right. The A's have
20:23
Speaker 3: had to for the last quarter century because their owner
20:27
Speaker 3: says he doesn't have the revenue streams. They sort of build, uh,
20:31
Speaker 3: build this pipeline of talent, develop players into stars, and
20:34
Speaker 3: then we get too expensive, they trade them away. It's
20:36
Speaker 3: what the Rays do, It's what the Brewers do, It's
20:38
Speaker 3: what the A's do. But the A's are really good
20:40
Speaker 3: at it. David Force and that front office is really good.
20:43
Speaker 3: And and I will note the A's did rebuild by
20:47
Speaker 3: trading Matt Olsen and Matt Chapman and others. They didn't
20:52
Speaker 3: do great on those trades. The return on those trades
20:54
Speaker 3: weren't good, and I think fans would be surprised that,
20:56
Speaker 3: Like the hit rate on those trades are usually not good,
20:59
Speaker 3: Like what the Red Sox get for Mookie Betts, like
21:01
Speaker 3: nothing that anybody remembers. Right, But they've drafted well and
21:07
Speaker 3: they've developed well. And so now they have because they
21:10
Speaker 3: committed to this plan and they had the people who
21:13
Speaker 3: could execute this plan. They have an offense now that
21:16
Speaker 3: is a lot of fun. Like they're gonna be really
21:20
Speaker 3: fun to watch this year, and they have homegrown talent
21:24
Speaker 3: and they're doing a lot of what the Braves have done. Too,
21:27
Speaker 3: is that they get the sort of homegrown talent and
21:30
Speaker 3: they sign them to extensions early on in their careers
21:33
Speaker 3: so that they capitalize on their primeiers, like rather than
21:37
Speaker 3: go out and shop for free agents when they're thirty
21:39
Speaker 3: thirty one years old and beginning to descend, they have
21:43
Speaker 3: these players as they're rising, and sometimes it works, sometimes
21:48
Speaker 3: it doesn't. The White Sox tried this, it did not work.
21:52
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens with the A's, but you could
21:54
Speaker 3: already see that they have a really exciting offense. Their
21:56
Speaker 3: challenge is going to be building pitching. Pitching in Sacramento
21:59
Speaker 3: is really difficult, and so they try to supplement that
22:02
Speaker 3: with Louis Severino. It didn't work. Jeffrey Springs didn't really
22:05
Speaker 3: work that well too, either. But they have pitching coming,
22:08
Speaker 3: and every team says that they have pitching coming, and
22:10
Speaker 3: we'll see pitchers break down. Sometimes pitchers don't pan out.
22:15
Speaker 3: But my point is they have a plan, and they
22:19
Speaker 3: had this target, which is Las Vegas. They're going to
22:22
Speaker 3: move in there in twenty twenty eight, and they wanted
22:25
Speaker 3: to build up an exciting cores and be a team
22:28
Speaker 3: that is competing for championships by the time they get there.
22:31
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to work, but they're
22:33
Speaker 3: headed towards something, right, and they're fans whatever fans they
22:38
Speaker 3: have left, because I don't know if they have any
22:39
Speaker 3: Oakland fans or any Sacramento fans anymore. And I don't
22:41
Speaker 3: know if Las Vegas has fans. But that's beside the point.
22:44
Speaker 3: People can get excited for the A's because they're building
22:48
Speaker 3: towards this thing, right, And I keep I go back
22:50
Speaker 3: to the Angels. What's the thing that they're building toward.
22:54
Speaker 3: I can't figure it out yet.
22:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, they've already locked up some
22:58
Speaker 1: of their young up and coming plays to long term deals.
23:01
Speaker 1: And I think if they can secure Nick Kurtz, who
23:04
Speaker 1: I think is one of the best young hitters in
23:06
Speaker 1: the game Rookie of the Year unanimous choice, that's going
23:10
Speaker 1: to lock up a lot of that young core and
23:12
Speaker 1: that's going to make that I agree with all and
23:14
Speaker 1: there's going to be an exciting team for the next
23:17
Speaker 1: few years. Okay, we're going to turn our attention now
23:21
Speaker 1: to the news also broke last Friday about the Angels
23:25
Speaker 1: in their new TV deal. Sports Business Journal reporting that
23:28
Speaker 1: the Angels purchased fifty share of Main Street Sports, and
23:34
Speaker 1: they're going to form their own regional sports network that
23:37
Speaker 1: will also house the NHL's Kings, but probably not the Clippers.
23:41
Speaker 1: The network is expected to be available on the same
23:43
Speaker 1: cable and satellite outlets as before, which I appreciate because
23:46
Speaker 1: I did get FanDuel Sports before and I won't have
23:48
Speaker 1: to pay extra for it. The on air talent Wayne Rendazo,
23:52
Speaker 1: Mark Goubaza, Erica Weston is apparently going to stay the same.
23:57
Speaker 1: This is good news for Angel fans, I think. But
24:00
Speaker 1: I think the Angels still have a lot of work
24:02
Speaker 1: to do in terms of, you know, building up the
24:04
Speaker 1: sponsors and the advertising to try to get their revenue
24:08
Speaker 1: at least toward what they were making in that you know,
24:11
Speaker 1: great Fox Sports West deal, which is like what twenty years,
24:16
Speaker 1: three billion or something. They were making a lot of money,
24:19
Speaker 1: I think three hundred you know a lot of money
24:20
Speaker 1: off that deal. All the what's the task at hand
24:23
Speaker 1: here for the Angels.
24:26
Speaker 3: It's a really difficult one. I like what they did,
24:27
Speaker 3: and there were as Main Street Sports was headed towards
24:32
Speaker 3: what looks like a liquidation, the vast majority of teams
24:35
Speaker 3: went with Major League baseball right away. Major League Baseball
24:38
Speaker 3: now has the rights to about half the industry. The
24:41
Speaker 3: two main holdouts there were the Braves and the Angels,
24:44
Speaker 3: and the reason why they were holdouts is because they
24:48
Speaker 3: were two of the most valuable entities that Main Street
24:51
Speaker 3: Sports has. The Braves have this massive territory which TBS
24:56
Speaker 3: is very responsible for from the nineteen nineties, and so
25:00
Speaker 3: you saw the Braves form their own network to try
25:02
Speaker 3: to capitalize on that. The Angels obviously took out an
25:04
Speaker 3: ownership stake in Main Street Sports and they're trying to
25:07
Speaker 3: capitalize on that. Look, the Angels are not going to
25:10
Speaker 3: recoup the money that Fox Sports was paying them before.
25:14
Speaker 3: I think that was in twenty eleven twenty twelve, right
25:16
Speaker 3: around when they signed Albert Pools and CJ. Wilson. That
25:19
Speaker 3: all season these next three years for teams is all
25:23
Speaker 3: about just sort of trying to hold on to as
25:26
Speaker 3: much of that old cable local media money that they
25:30
Speaker 3: used to have. Get as much out of that as possible,
25:33
Speaker 3: because then at the end of twenty twenty eight, everything
25:35
Speaker 3: is going to change. Major League Baseball wants to centralize
25:38
Speaker 3: local media. I think the vast majority of the industry
25:42
Speaker 3: is going to go with them. We'll see how this
25:44
Speaker 3: goes with the Angels. Depending on how this goes, it
25:46
Speaker 3: will depend on whether they go with Major League Baseball.
25:47
Speaker 3: But I will say it's a different thing. The Rangers
25:50
Speaker 3: tried to start their own TV network. It hasn't gone
25:52
Speaker 3: anywhere near as well for them as they thought. Striking
25:55
Speaker 3: these carriage deals these days it's very difficult, and you've
25:59
Speaker 3: seen it with the payroll, like their revenues are impacted greatness,
26:03
Speaker 3: and the fact that they're a team that pays into
26:05
Speaker 3: revenue sharing also means that all those CBT overages, all
26:09
Speaker 3: those luxury text payments, they don't get those either. So
26:12
Speaker 3: they're sort of in the wrong end of both here.
26:15
Speaker 3: They don't get revenue sharing and they don't have a
26:17
Speaker 3: local media deal. So they're in a tough spot and
26:19
Speaker 3: they're trying to recoup as much as possible over these
26:21
Speaker 3: next few years. It's going to be hard.
26:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still not going to get spring training games
26:25
Speaker 1: on TV, but at least we'll get the regular season games.
26:28
Speaker 2: Mark, if you figure out if you.
26:29
Speaker 1: Even have fan duel sports on your on your cable
26:32
Speaker 1: package or what, do you got.
26:35
Speaker 2: Fairly confident I do.
26:36
Speaker 4: I still always view it as Fox Sports West and
26:40
Speaker 4: probably always well. These name changes are tad confusing, but
26:44
Speaker 4: it appears it will be uninterrupted and I will get
26:48
Speaker 4: to watch the games when they are available, So good
26:53
Speaker 4: news there, I think for the.
26:55
Speaker 2: Fans, Yeah, how do you think?
26:57
Speaker 1: I mean they're also going to try to sell streaming
26:59
Speaker 1: package is maybe for ninety nine bucks a year. I'm
27:02
Speaker 1: not sure exactly how much. What do you think of
27:05
Speaker 1: the appetite is going to be for fans who don't
27:08
Speaker 1: get this network on their cable package and have to
27:10
Speaker 1: pay extra for it.
27:13
Speaker 4: I think that Aldon can probably weigh in as well.
27:19
Speaker 4: What number does it start to feel uncomfortable? Especially if
27:22
Speaker 4: the on field play is it spectacular? Is it one
27:26
Speaker 4: hundred dollars? Is it two hundred? If it gets much
27:28
Speaker 4: over that, I think a lot are going to be out,
27:33
Speaker 4: especially if another team across town is available on Sportsnet cable.
27:38
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
27:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can't pay per month, so maybe
27:44
Speaker 1: if they're not too far out in April or May,
27:47
Speaker 1: they'll get half season customers. Okay, we're going to turn
27:52
Speaker 1: our attention to the World Baseball Classic. All of our
27:54
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic coverage is brought to you by our
27:57
Speaker 1: friends at Fox one, which is a lot stream all
28:01
Speaker 1: your Fox favorites together in one place, including all WBC
28:04
Speaker 1: games over the next few weeks, and after that the
28:07
Speaker 1: best MLB action all season long. Now, some interesting news
28:12
Speaker 1: out of the WBC with some Angel prospects, notably Lucas Ramirez,
28:16
Speaker 1: the son of former slugger Manny Ramires, hit two home
28:20
Speaker 1: runs for Brazil against the Team USA and the opener
28:25
Speaker 1: and a pitcher who I'm gonna admit I had never
28:27
Speaker 1: heard about a prospect in the Angels organization. Niger Victor
28:31
Speaker 1: struck out four batters against Team USA. Aaron Judge, Bryce Harper,
28:37
Speaker 1: Gunner Henderson and Roman Anthony. His kid's a twenty four
28:40
Speaker 1: year old right hand or fourteenth round pick out of
28:42
Speaker 1: Central Florida in twenty twenty four, ninety seven mile an
28:46
Speaker 1: hour fastball and got I think he got swinging strikes
28:49
Speaker 1: on seven of his eleven sliders. Mark Aldman, anything about you,
28:54
Speaker 1: these guys jumping out at you in the early rounds
28:56
Speaker 1: of the WBC.
28:58
Speaker 3: I just think it's this is what I like about
29:00
Speaker 3: the early portion of the WBC, where like you get
29:02
Speaker 3: these names that you're not really familiar with these young kids.
29:06
Speaker 3: I mean, you saw Hoste Contras's seventeen year old son
29:10
Speaker 3: get Aaron judged to ground into a double play, and look,
29:13
Speaker 3: these are even probably Angels fans weren't super familiar with
29:16
Speaker 3: these two guys. But and Mark Trumple could speak to
29:19
Speaker 3: this as somebody who like played a winter ball and
29:20
Speaker 3: stuff like that, like you want to get better as
29:23
Speaker 3: a prospect, like playing these high pressure environments against premium competition,
29:29
Speaker 3: and like I'd be really curious to study like the
29:32
Speaker 3: past of these two players to see like how just
29:35
Speaker 3: sort of being in these games, being in those environments
29:37
Speaker 3: might have made them better. And it's cool, like, Angels
29:40
Speaker 3: fans now have two other guys that if they weren't
29:43
Speaker 3: on their radar already, now they got two guys that
29:45
Speaker 3: they could follow in their career. I think that's awesome.
29:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think either was in their top thirty
29:51
Speaker 1: on all these prospect lists. Mark, what kind of a
29:53
Speaker 1: couple of performances like that do for kids in these
29:57
Speaker 1: sort of at this level of their career.
30:00
Speaker 2: They can go viral and you can see the clips everywhere.
30:05
Speaker 4: Lucas Ramirez is a young guy twenty years old, just
30:08
Speaker 4: drafted in twenty twenty four. He had a nice season
30:13
Speaker 4: with the bat. I think he made it up to
30:15
Speaker 4: Hya briefly. Too early to tell exactly what he is
30:20
Speaker 4: or isn't, but it's a strong showing. Looks like he
30:22
Speaker 4: has some pop on the bat. We've talked about the
30:24
Speaker 4: Angels minor league system having a distinct lack of power hitters,
30:28
Speaker 4: so if he blossoms into one, that's great. As far
30:32
Speaker 4: as Victor very fired up, I think he clearly, you know,
30:38
Speaker 4: was in the moment and you know, let the kids play,
30:42
Speaker 4: so he looked like a stare down to the team
30:45
Speaker 4: USI dugout. Then he kind of reined it in, but
30:49
Speaker 4: it was, you know, it was celebrating. It's what everyone
30:52
Speaker 4: does now, not what we were taught. But whatever, big stuff,
30:56
Speaker 4: nice slider. The minor league numbers not as flattering. I
31:00
Speaker 4: believe he's career five plus e RA and apparently gets
31:07
Speaker 4: hit fairly hard when he's in the strike. Song may
31:09
Speaker 4: have gone. I think he did play in the Fall League,
31:11
Speaker 4: so I want to watch. You know, some of these
31:13
Speaker 4: guys kind of it clicks when it clicks, but if
31:16
Speaker 4: you have the physical tools, which every big leaguer generally
31:19
Speaker 4: does have well above average tools. You don't find anyone
31:23
Speaker 4: that's just, you know, got ordinary tools that somehow has
31:26
Speaker 4: this mental capacity to take it to the next level.
31:29
Speaker 4: Most guys are extremely talented with the skill set, and
31:33
Speaker 4: both these guys seem to have that. So maybe a
31:36
Speaker 4: nice platform for them to do some big things. Have
31:39
Speaker 4: good seasons and you know those prospect lists. How much
31:43
Speaker 4: do that matter? Who knows?
31:44
Speaker 2: Yeah?
31:45
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper had an interesting quote I think right as
31:48
Speaker 1: a WBC open He said, obviously the WBC is great,
31:52
Speaker 1: but it's not the Olympics. That's no disrespect to the
31:56
Speaker 1: WBC or anything, but everybody knows when the Olympics are on,
32:00
Speaker 1: everybody is watching. Doesn't matter what sport it is. It
32:03
Speaker 1: could be the most random sport. And as all the
32:06
Speaker 1: fans watching, I hope LA twenty eight it happens. Now,
32:13
Speaker 1: this whole Olympics thing is gonna be really interesting. I
32:16
Speaker 1: find I think major leaguers are gonna They're gonna find
32:18
Speaker 1: a way to do it.
32:20
Speaker 2: Now.
32:20
Speaker 1: How they condense the whole Olympic tournament into maybe one week,
32:23
Speaker 1: and whether it's July or August is going to be
32:26
Speaker 1: a challenge. And I see what Bryce is saying, But personally,
32:30
Speaker 1: I think what the Olympics will lack that the WBC
32:34
Speaker 1: has in spades are some of these moments. Show hal
32:38
Speaker 1: Otani hitting a grand slam in the Tokyo Doom in
32:41
Speaker 1: his home country, the guy from Puerto Rico who hit
32:45
Speaker 1: the walk off through on Homer the other night in
32:48
Speaker 1: San Juan. I mean, you see these celebrations. I do
32:51
Speaker 1: think the Olympics will bring out the energy that especially
32:54
Speaker 1: some of these teams from Latin America bring, but man
32:57
Speaker 1: to see show Hey and Yamamoto pitching in Japan and
33:02
Speaker 1: to see maybe a team from the Dominican Mexico doing
33:05
Speaker 1: in their home countries, I don't know. I think the
33:08
Speaker 1: WBC does a great job of that.
33:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I understand what he's saying, like this
33:15
Speaker 3: is the sixth iteration.
33:17
Speaker 2: Of the WBC.
33:18
Speaker 3: The Olympics has been going on for what one hundred,
33:21
Speaker 3: five hundred, one thousand years. I don't know. This is
33:24
Speaker 3: just a deeper history there. It's not a thousand marks. Sorry,
33:29
Speaker 3: there's a deeper history. There's a deeper meeting there. I
33:31
Speaker 3: get it. I will say though, I think major league
33:34
Speaker 3: players are going to find a way to play in
33:35
Speaker 3: the Olympics in twenty twenty eight, and it's going to
33:37
Speaker 3: be pretty simple. I think all you gotta do is,
33:40
Speaker 3: you know, elongate the All Star break by four or
33:43
Speaker 3: five days, a handful of days. I know that's going
33:45
Speaker 3: to be a challenge for a lot of a lot
33:46
Speaker 3: of guys sort of sitting around to start the second half.
33:49
Speaker 3: But I think it's going to happen. I think there's
33:51
Speaker 3: enough momentum around it. And one thing that I have
33:54
Speaker 3: thought about, and I actually kicked it a lot around
33:57
Speaker 3: to some league officials recently, is you know you talk
34:01
Speaker 3: about how difficult it is for pitchers to take part
34:03
Speaker 3: in the WBC because the middle of March they're not
34:05
Speaker 3: fully stretched out. They got to be on schedule in
34:08
Speaker 3: order to get their innings in and be ready for
34:09
Speaker 3: opening Day to start a regular season. If it works
34:13
Speaker 3: out well in twenty twenty eight with the Olympics and
34:15
Speaker 3: they could sort of stretch out the Allstar Break to
34:18
Speaker 3: make it happen, can that be a template for doing
34:21
Speaker 3: that in the World Baseball Classic every few years, every
34:25
Speaker 3: three four years, whatever, every three years when the WBC
34:28
Speaker 3: rolls around, can you make the All Star Break a
34:30
Speaker 3: little bit longer, and if you make it in the
34:32
Speaker 3: middle of the season, I think you'd get more buying
34:34
Speaker 3: from pitchers. I think more importantly, you'd get more buying
34:37
Speaker 3: from their teams because they're already stretched out, right, Like
34:41
Speaker 3: imagine Terrek Scoople taking down six innings right instead of
34:45
Speaker 3: three in the WBC. They're already ramped up. I think
34:48
Speaker 3: it would be easier. Now, Look, there would be challenges.
34:51
Speaker 3: The WBC is longer, you would have to have a
34:53
Speaker 3: much longer All Star break. But I do wonder if
34:55
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight can sort of set a sort of
34:58
Speaker 3: template where like, hey, maybe we can be a little
35:01
Speaker 3: flexible with this All Star break. Let these international events
35:04
Speaker 3: take place in the middle of the season as opposed
35:07
Speaker 3: to in March.
35:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually think they should just postpone the All
35:10
Speaker 1: Star Game in the years of the Olympics if they
35:13
Speaker 1: want to. And I agree, the competition for baseball in
35:17
Speaker 1: the middle of July or early August or whatever it
35:20
Speaker 1: is is going to be so more reflective of the
35:22
Speaker 1: team's talent on the field in the countries that are competing.
35:27
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't think you could have as you know,
35:30
Speaker 1: forty eight sixty four teams in the Olympics. Maybe there's
35:33
Speaker 1: a way to whittle down some of these in qualifying
35:35
Speaker 1: events for some of these European countries if they want
35:38
Speaker 1: to compete, maybe some of these smaller countries and you
35:40
Speaker 1: have to sort of do some kind of competition on
35:43
Speaker 1: the way to get into the Olympics. But I just
35:46
Speaker 1: think that kind of event with big leaguers in the
35:49
Speaker 1: middle of the season would be spectacular. What do you think, Mark, I'm.
35:53
Speaker 2: All for it.
35:54
Speaker 4: I think that it seems like some very prominent players
35:58
Speaker 4: want this to happen. I think one of the the
36:00
Speaker 4: main difference is whenning a gold medal is really cool
36:04
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of guys would love to
36:06
Speaker 4: have that on their trophy case, the logistics of how
36:11
Speaker 4: you do it are more difficult, and as always, how
36:15
Speaker 4: do the teams benefit? And sometimes it pretty much means
36:20
Speaker 4: they do not. I think what would be nice if
36:24
Speaker 4: you were to postpone the All Star gamers. You said,
36:26
Speaker 4: maybe you nominate guys that are deserving of being on
36:30
Speaker 4: the All Star team, so you can say that you
36:32
Speaker 4: were an All Star because the game, you know, how
36:35
Speaker 4: important is it? It's fun? The homer in Derby is
36:39
Speaker 4: stale in my opinion, but people still probably tune in.
36:45
Speaker 4: And if these guys that are nominated to make the
36:48
Speaker 4: All Star team, maybe you condense that roster somewhat and
36:51
Speaker 4: that's the Olympic team, or maybe you know, you see
36:54
Speaker 4: what the buying is. But enough big names want to
36:56
Speaker 4: do it. I think that's going to move the needle,
36:58
Speaker 4: and I think it'd be really they neat to see
37:01
Speaker 4: and if there's a will, there's a way, so I
37:04
Speaker 4: you know, smart baseball minds will figure out how to
37:06
Speaker 4: do it.
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Speaker 1: with a little personal questions for Alden Gonzales. I know
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Speaker 1: a lot of fans see Alden on TV with ESPN.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully some fans read his writing on the website. What
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Speaker 1: is sort of the breakdown all into your job? You know,
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Speaker 1: percentage wise TV writing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of varies. I think at the on
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Speaker 3: the time of year, it's more fifty to fifty in
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Speaker 3: I would say Spring Training, All Star Game, doing the playoffs,
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Speaker 3: and then it's very heavy on the reporting writing side,
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Speaker 3: maybe basically every other month. But it's a lot of fun.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I've always I've always liked doing the TV thing.
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Speaker 3: I came up as an annoying Angel Beat reporter covering
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Speaker 3: Mark Trumbo and the TV thing sort of evolved later,
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Speaker 3: but I've always liked it. I do some Sports Center stuff,
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Speaker 3: and they let me do games every once in a while.
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Speaker 3: I was just in Arizona last week and we did
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Speaker 3: Tim you say, against the Giants, and we did Dodgers Reds.
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Speaker 3: My favorite thing is doing the games. I love just
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Speaker 3: being involved in that environment. I love it because you
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Speaker 3: sort of bring every aspect of your job and you're
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Speaker 3: just telling stories in a different format. I love trying
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Speaker 3: the challenge of just sort of trying to bring something
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Speaker 3: additional to the broadcast that will help viewers sort of
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Speaker 3: enhance their experience and sort of learn about some of
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Speaker 3: the things that they're watching. But it's really cool. ESPN
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Speaker 3: is one of these great companies where like I get
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Speaker 3: to do a little bit of everything. I still get
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Speaker 3: to do the writing and reporting. I get to do
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Speaker 3: the TV stuff, and every once in a while we'll
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Speaker 3: get to do the games. I know Mark Trumble thinks
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Speaker 3: the home Run Derby is stale. I used to do
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Speaker 3: the home Run Derby, so I wonder if that has
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Speaker 3: played a part in his opinion, sort of swaying in
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Speaker 3: that direction, And if so, I apologize for that more
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Speaker 3: for making the home Run Derby stale for you.
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Speaker 4: No, you do a great job translating. Minus when I
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Speaker 4: ask you to translate a YouTube clip of me in
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Speaker 4: winter Ball and very gentleman was speaking very yeah, Well
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Speaker 4: you said, he's saying like you have big power.
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Speaker 3: Yeah that's what he said.
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Speaker 4: Well no, he said a lot more than that, and
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Speaker 4: you did not go the extra mile to translate.
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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't want to hurt your feelings.
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Speaker 4: I know it was all flattering. I had Google do
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Speaker 4: it for me, so thank you for that. But you
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Speaker 4: are out there, your high energy. You can do it all,
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Speaker 4: including a hit off show. Hey o Tani, that's the
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Speaker 4: traject machine. A lot of whiffs, but you didn't hit
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Speaker 4: a singlestic.
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Speaker 2: You have.
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Speaker 4: I describe you as a front foot hitter, prone to
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Speaker 4: lunching and weak against the breaking ball.
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Speaker 2: Very weak.
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Speaker 3: Keep the way back, kid, Hey, Mike Trout struck out
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Speaker 3: on that same sweeper in the WBC. Man, what do
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Speaker 3: you expect?
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Speaker 2: It's nasty.
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Speaker 3: You got to.
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Speaker 2: Choke up.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to step into against show hey, against
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Speaker 1: the real show hey, or the video show hey. So
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Speaker 1: all kudos for that, Alton, Oh well that we're going
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Speaker 1: to close the show today. I really appreciate our guests.
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