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The Muster Full Show: 25/09/26 · The Muster on Hokonui

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Speaker 1: It is Friday afternoon, so we catch up with Nathan
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Speaker 1: Abernethy from Regional Ford. Good afternoon, sir.
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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, Andy.
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Speaker 3: Another reasonably dreary sort of a Friday here, but I
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Speaker 3: guess that it could be worse. All go here today,
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Speaker 3: and hard to believe that it is the last Friday
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Speaker 3: of this month again, and we're going to roll on
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Speaker 3: to another one. But look, things have been really busy.
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Speaker 3: The month's been great. Plenty of good stock coming through.
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Speaker 3: We've had an amazing month in new vehicles. A lot
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Speaker 3: of new Ranger and Everest and Transit van we've had
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Speaker 3: go out the door.
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Speaker 2: A few escape as well.
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Speaker 3: Which has made room for plenty of second-hand vehicles coming through. So, yeah, look,
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Speaker 3: I'm just standing outside here at the moment, which is
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Speaker 3: not something we've been able to do that often in
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Speaker 3: the last wee while either, is stand outside. But actually,
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Speaker 3: it's not too bad. Standing in the commercial section here
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Speaker 3: and looking around, we've got anything from late, late model
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Speaker 3: Ford Ranger Wildtrak V6, all dressed up with the flares
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Speaker 3: and the 20-inch wheels, to Holden Colorados. We've got a
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Speaker 3: good range of those here as well. We've got Mitsubishi Tritons.
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Speaker 3: but certainly plenty of ranges. We've had a few Hilux
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Speaker 3: through in the last wee while and they've gone out.
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Speaker 3: We've got a good range of Ford Everest here as well.
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Speaker 3: We've got finance on the spot, so Cody can take
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Speaker 3: care of that. Don't forget, even if you've got finance
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Speaker 3: on your vehicle currently, we can work on getting you
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Speaker 3: out of that and getting you into another one and
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Speaker 3: keep those payments the same or in some cases less.
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Speaker 3: So just come and talk to us and we'll show
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Speaker 3: you what we can do. As always, we'll be here
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Speaker 3: until five o'clock. Doors will be open at half past
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Speaker 3: nine in the morning, whether it be parts, service, grooming,
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Speaker 3: not forget the tyres up there in Belclutha. We take
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Speaker 3: care of it all for all makes and models, Andy.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Nate. Catch you next week.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the Muster on Hokonui. Andy
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Speaker 1: Muley here until 2 o'clock. Of course, the show is
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Speaker 1: brought to you by Peters Genetics. on a Friday afternoon
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Speaker 1: that sees 10 degrees outside. And, well, it's a little
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Speaker 1: bit warmer than what it's been. It's still not to
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Speaker 1: the tropics by any means. But, look, Phil Duncan's on
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Speaker 1: the show shortly to give a rundown on the forecast
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Speaker 1: for the next seven days. But a couple of things. Firstly,
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Speaker 1: the wool price yesterday, it's fluctuating up and down. Like yesterday,
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Speaker 1: it's back 30 cents again, just on averages. So, once again,
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Speaker 1: it's a... It's the Manhattan skyline of prices, I suppose.
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Speaker 1: And the music today, too. Sophie Ellis-Bexter. She's one of
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Speaker 1: the artists performing at the Wanaka Summer Concert at the
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Speaker 1: end of January, along with Seal. Seal's not bad. Bastille,
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Speaker 1: they've got one song that I know of. Good song,
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Speaker 1: but it's one. And Level 42, who I actually thought
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Speaker 1: was a boy band from the 90s, but they've been
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Speaker 1: around since I was a nappy. So, yeah, Sophie Ellis-Bexter.
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Speaker 1: This song here, Take Me Home, massive song. Her breakout
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Speaker 1: hit back in 2001.
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Speaker 4: Hōkanui' s five-day forecast with Twin Farm, Tehrom and Softex.
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Speaker 1: The proof is in the progeny. tehrom.co.nz Show me heaven,
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Speaker 1: show me sunshine. That'd be better. This afternoon, cloud with
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Speaker 1: variable winds in 12. That kind of rhymes. Saturday, cloudy
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Speaker 1: with breezy north-westerlies, that is, 4 and 17. Sunday, showers
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Speaker 1: of breezy north-westerlies, 5 and 8. Monday, light rain with westerlies,
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Speaker 1: 6 and 8. And on Tuesday, showers of brisk west-south-westerlies,
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Speaker 1: 3 and 11. Soil temperatures to hand, Clinton 8.1, Harriot 7.1,
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Speaker 1: Northern South on 8.5, Riverton 10, Te Anau 8.3, Titiroa 8,
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Speaker 1: Winton 8.3 and Woodlands 8. Don't forget daylight saving occurs
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Speaker 1: on Saturday night too. Where did that pop up from?
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Speaker 1: Nigel Woodhead, he didn't pop up from anywhere, he's been
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Speaker 1: established for a while in South Otago. Between Barcluthor and
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Speaker 1: Milton we have our regular catch up. Joseph Mooney, MP
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Speaker 1: for Southland. The House rose for the final time in
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Speaker 1: this election cycle this week, so it's been a busy
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Speaker 1: couple of days up there in the Beehive. Phil Duncan
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Speaker 1: of Weatherwatch looks at the weather for the next seven
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Speaker 1: days here in the south and just gives us an update.
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Speaker 1: Are we going to see a little bit of respite
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Speaker 1: from all this precipitation? Michelle Watt catches up in the
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Speaker 1: country crossover. And Nick Bewley out of Newstalk ZB. Big changes.
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Speaker 1: We talked about it with Nathan Burden yesterday. Nick gives
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Speaker 1: an update as to what could be happening heading forward.
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Speaker 1: So time to crank into it. Up next is Nigel
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Speaker 1: Wood here. This is the muster and it's brought to
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Speaker 1: you by Peters Genetics. Nigel Woodhead is farming in South
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Speaker 1: Otago between Balclutha and Milton, and we catch up once again. Nigel,
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Speaker 1: good afternoon. How's the lambing been?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, afternoon, Andy. It's all right today because it's not raining.
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Speaker 5: The sun's trying to poke out, so yeah, we'll take it.
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Speaker 1: The situation with the rain down here, I'm sure you're
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Speaker 1: all over it. You would have seen the messages. And
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Speaker 1: pretty much every day there's been a couple of mills.
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Speaker 1: How have you fared?
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Speaker 5: We definitely haven't had it as bad as you fellas
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Speaker 5: down south, eh? So, yeah, I appreciate there's been some
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Speaker 5: big rainfall numbers down south and people really struggling. But we, yeah,
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's wet, man, it's wet. Yeah, it's just
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Speaker 5: been tough, eh? Just been tough. It's sort of, you know,
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Speaker 5: what was it, Tuesday night, Monday night, one of those
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Speaker 5: nights that was, you know, lying in bed trying to
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Speaker 5: go to sleep. Listen, you know, the house was sort
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Speaker 5: of shaky. You could hear rain on the roof type thing. And,
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Speaker 5: you know, it doesn't make for a good situation. But,
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Speaker 5: you know, we seem to be taking along not too
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Speaker 5: bad considering.
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Speaker 1: How submerged would you say the ground is at the
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Speaker 1: moment as far as being waterlogged?
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Speaker 5: Oh, it's 100%. Yeah, no, there's no space. Any time
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Speaker 5: you get a bit of rain, the old tiles start running. But, yeah,
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Speaker 5: that must have been... Yeah, we had a mob of
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Speaker 5: bulls turn the three-day break into mud in two days,
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Speaker 5: which pissed me right off. So, yeah, we're sort of
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Speaker 5: trying to... Like, usually by now, all of our bulls
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Speaker 5: would be in sort of heckier blocks and just on
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Speaker 5: rotation going round and round. That mob there.
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Speaker 5: I've just basically put them in a two and a
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Speaker 5: half hectare paddock with no fences in it today just
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Speaker 5: to try and take the pressure off them and they'll
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Speaker 5: get shifted in two or three days time and just
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Speaker 5: leaving quite a bit of length behind to grow so
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Speaker 5: it grows away behind them and just trying to keep
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Speaker 5: them moving a wee bit quicker because I think grass
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Speaker 5: is growing slowly but if you chew a paddock right
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Speaker 5: out now it takes a long time for it to
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Speaker 5: come back so the idea is slightly bigger break, not
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Speaker 5: make as much mess, leave a bit of grass behind
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Speaker 5: so that there's still something there next time around. Just
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Speaker 5: whip around and the other two mobs, I'm actually sitting
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Speaker 5: in a paddock using them at the moment, I can
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Speaker 5: see another two mobs of bulls here. One miter came
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Speaker 5: close to starting their second round which is earlier than
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Speaker 5: what I'd like but they've got a bit of feed
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Speaker 5: in front of them, I think they'll be right and
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Speaker 5: a southern mob spent about 10 days cleaning just some
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Speaker 5: longer patches up in the odd paddock before you've got
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Speaker 5: set stocks. I think we've still got plenty of air
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Speaker 5: from it. It's a long-winded way of saying, depending on
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Speaker 5: the mild, things aren't looking too bad, but we should
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Speaker 5: be able to survive it. A bit of urea go
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Speaker 5: on this week, so hopefully it'll kick things off.
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Speaker 1: Everybody putting urea on by chopper at the moment. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's the only way you can do it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the old solar trucks won't be doing much. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 5: we're lucky we've got... Mr Helicopter's right next door, and
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Speaker 5: so I was talking to Alice the other day, and
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Speaker 5: he said he's just under the pump, can't keep up.
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Speaker 5: He's got guys, you know, helicopters from all over the
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Speaker 5: show helping him out. Sounds like the guys in Southland
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Speaker 5: are similar too. They've got people from all over the
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Speaker 5: country coming to help him out. And yeah, just trying
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Speaker 5: to get around it all. He said, you know, there's
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Speaker 5: some issues coming for with some dairy farmers heading into
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Speaker 5: their second round, A, early, and B, with messed up paddocks,
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Speaker 5: with struggling for covers. So he's busy, flat out, guys
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Speaker 5: just trying to patch a hole with some urea. So
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Speaker 5: that's what's happening there. And getting work done has been
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Speaker 5: the issue for them by the sound of it. Just
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Speaker 5: to get a day where it's not howling gale So
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Speaker 5: you can actually get the choppers out and get the
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Speaker 5: fertiliser on. But they'll be flat out today. It's nice
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Speaker 5: and calm.
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Speaker 1: The situation in South Otago where you're based in general knowledge,
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Speaker 1: how's it looking?
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Speaker 6: It sort of depends a wee bit, I think.
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Speaker 5: Like the guys, so down on the flat below us,
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Speaker 5: the guys that sort of lambed a couple of weeks
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Speaker 5: prior to us, two or three weeks earlier, they're struggling.
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Speaker 5: You can just tell because driving along the road, you
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Speaker 5: can see these ewes. you know, the feed underneath ewes
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Speaker 5: has sort of got that muddy look about it. You know,
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Speaker 5: they always, and I think we talked about it a
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Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago, like they always carry feed into
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Speaker 5: the spring and, you know, they start killing lambs in November. But, like,
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Speaker 5: you know, the poor old ewes just haven't had a
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Speaker 5: chance and the grass gets a bit muddied up. So, yeah,
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Speaker 5: some of the guys that landed a bit earlier, I think,
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Speaker 5: you know, are probably struggling a bit, whereas some were
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Speaker 5: just up on the hill a wee bit and We
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Speaker 5: made a conscious decision to hold ewes behind a wire
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Speaker 5: for a bit longer than we wanted to just because
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Speaker 5: we felt like things were still a bit cold and wet.
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Speaker 5: So I'd like to have ewes spread out a few days,
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Speaker 5: week or so before they start lambing, but it was...
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Speaker 5: pretty much the day they started lambing we spread them
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Speaker 5: out and it's served us pretty well on covers. We've
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Speaker 5: still got a wee bit of grass around us so
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Speaker 5: we're pretty lucky but we had to work hard for it. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: but then you go inland a wee bit around White
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Speaker 5: Owen Alliance, those guys with a bit more altitude have
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Speaker 5: had more snow and rough weather than us. I'd say
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Speaker 5: they'll be struggling a bit. So it just sort of
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Speaker 5: depends where you are.
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Speaker 1: Your wet dries, are you getting rid of them sooner
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Speaker 1: than later this season?
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we'll shed them out. The idea, we usually
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Speaker 5: have them all shedded out prior to tailing. We try
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Speaker 5: to anyway. And yeah, they'll be heading on a truck
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Speaker 5: pretty quick smart. We keep our wet dry two-doos because
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Speaker 5: I reckon most of the time it's just the two-doos
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Speaker 5: that have inexperience as to why most of them are
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Speaker 5: wet dries we'll give them an extra age tag and
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Speaker 5: a terminal so we don't breed from them again and
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Speaker 5: I reckon I've been doing it for six or eight
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Speaker 5: years and not very often you see a wet dry
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Speaker 5: two-doos come back and make another mistake type thing So usually,
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Speaker 5: you know, it's a shame they haven't reared a lamb,
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Speaker 5: but most of the time you'll get lambs out of
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Speaker 5: them for the rest of their life. And, you know,
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Speaker 5: that one year as a wet-dry tootoo, they usually end
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Speaker 5: up massive, so they have twins for the rest of
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Speaker 5: their life.
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Speaker 1: Interesting mindset regarding dry sheep. A few people have dry hoggets,
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Speaker 1: they cull them. Other people with dry ewes, wet dry ewes,
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Speaker 1: if the weather's not playing ball, they get culled as well.
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Speaker 1: They're saying, well, they haven't had the impetus to get
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Speaker 1: up there and rear a lamb or the like. So
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Speaker 1: it's a different mindset depending on who you speak to
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Speaker 1: regarding what you do if you're wet dry.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, like hoggets, I mean, I sort of– yeah,
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Speaker 5: if you– Yeah, if a hoggart rears a lamb, it's
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Speaker 5: a bonus for me. So I don't punish.
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Speaker 2: My hoggarts for....
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Speaker 5: If they're not up to weight at tupping, then that's
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Speaker 5: on me just because I haven't fed them well enough.
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Speaker 5: We've got the genetics and the ability to feed a
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Speaker 5: hoggart a ewe lamb well enough to get her up
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Speaker 5: to mating weight by the start of May. And if
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Speaker 5: that hasn't occurred, it's either a seasonal thing or it's
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Speaker 5: me cocked it up. So I don't punish them on that.
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Speaker 5: You know, and dries, all of our dries lose their
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Speaker 5: head as soon as, you know, we can after scanning.
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Speaker 5: Keep a couple for mutton and the rest of them
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Speaker 5: go to the yards or the works. So there's no
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Speaker 5: second chances on being dry at scanning. That's inexcusable. And,
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Speaker 5: but yeah, the wet dries, like a mixed AGU wet dry,
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Speaker 5: I have a no second chances policy on them. It's
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Speaker 5: just too loose, you know, like, quite often you drive
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Speaker 5: into a paddock and if there's a bit of carnage
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Speaker 5: going on, more often than not it's just tooters being
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Speaker 5: young and getting a bit confused and they might get
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Speaker 5: stuck out up on top because all the old tart
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Speaker 5: are down in the shelter or something. Like I say,
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Speaker 5: we don't keep any replacements from those wet dried tooters
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Speaker 5: ever again but like I say, they usually end up
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Speaker 5: growing to be pretty good big solid sheep and you
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Speaker 5: put a terminal over them for the rest of their
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Speaker 5: life and more often than not you never see them
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Speaker 5: again putting a foot wrong so you've only got to
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Speaker 5: feed them for another couple of months before it's weaning
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Speaker 5: time and they go back with the mob anyway and
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Speaker 5: we've got a few forestry blocks and pokey panics here
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Speaker 5: and there we can throw them into once we've got
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Speaker 5: them out of the mob and they don't cost too
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Speaker 5: much to feed them through the rest of the spring Good.
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Speaker 1: On you Nige, next time we speak September will be
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Speaker 1: in the distant mirror and we'll catch up, all the best.
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Speaker 5: Well, hopefully we'll have some trackers rolling by then. We'll see.
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Speaker 1: Nigel Woodhead, based in South Otago, between Barclutha and Milton.
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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Muster. Up next, MP for Southland,
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Speaker 1: Joseph Mooney. This is the muster on Hakanui. Sophie Ellis-Bexter
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Speaker 1: is the theme of the music. That song there, Murder
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Speaker 1: on the Dance Floor, well, probably not appropriate for our
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Speaker 1: next guest, MP for Southland, Joseph Mooney. Good afternoon, Joseph.
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Speaker 1: Murder on the Beehive, not really your thing, although you'd
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Speaker 1: probably feel like throttling some throats every now and then.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, we've just finished the 54th Parliament Congress, This week,
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Speaker 4: I had a last day on Wednesday. So, yep, so
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Speaker 4: that's all the parliamentary work is done. Sort of made
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Speaker 4: up my work as a member of parliament representing the
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Speaker 4: region has done it. That work always continues. But obviously,
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Speaker 4: you know, now the campaign mode is from.
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Speaker 2: Here on out as well.
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Speaker 1: So what happens on the last night? Does everybody get
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Speaker 1: together in the caucus? You get fish and chips, a
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Speaker 1: couple of quiets and have a chinwag? Or what happens?
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Speaker 4: LAUGHTER Yeah, actually, this time, because we're in government, the
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Speaker 4: National Party, we went up to Premier House afterwards, and,
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Speaker 4: you know, with all the members of Parliament and staff,
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Speaker 4: and just had a bit of a catch-up. Yep, there
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Speaker 4: were some chicken and chips. It's a bit of KFC.
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Speaker 4: I think it's a bit fancy. I think serving a
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Speaker 4: bit of a chuckle, people think, you know, parliamentarians are
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Speaker 4: sort of eating fancy food.
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Speaker 2: It's not the case.
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Speaker 4: If you like it, it's a bit of KFC. But just,
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Speaker 4: you know, importantly, it's just a chance for people to
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Speaker 4: catch up.
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Speaker 2: It's been a big three years. We've done a lot.
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Speaker 4: And everyone's, you know, worked their tails off. And obviously
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Speaker 4: it's now done and it's on to the campaign.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk about the campaign shortly. But interesting that
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Speaker 1: local government reform is almost, well, it has been. It's
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Speaker 1: been put, a stop has been put to it. It's
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Speaker 1: on the back burner until after the election. What was
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Speaker 1: the actual point of this? Because all it's done is
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Speaker 1: got local governments knickers in a twist.
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Speaker 4: Oh, look, I think it's been quite valuable, actually, because
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Speaker 4: there's been talk for years about amalgamating local government. You know,
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Speaker 4: the last significant reform was back in 1991, before probably
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Speaker 4: some people were listed as unborn. And so, you know,
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Speaker 4: it's high time for it to be done. So I
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Speaker 4: gave the councils across the country three months to put
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Speaker 4: their proposals forward, what they thought.
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Speaker 2: Their communities would like to see.
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Speaker 4: And some councils were ready and put forward proposals. Other
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Speaker 4: councils were not ready.
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Speaker 2: And so I think that's.
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Speaker 4: Going to be really valuable for the incoming government to
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Speaker 4: continue that work, because regardless of what happens, there is
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Speaker 4: going to be reform. We are over-governed as a country.
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Speaker 4: We need to have less government and more focus on
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Speaker 4: delivery of core services. And so I think the work
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Speaker 4: that's been done is valuable and will help inform future government.
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Speaker 1: But why was a three-month time frame implemented when nothing
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Speaker 1: was going to happen and all it's done is put
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Speaker 1: a lot of stress on councils?
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Speaker 4: Well, it's, I mean, you could give a three-month, six-month, nine-month,
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Speaker 4: I don't think you'd have much difference, to be frank, in.
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Speaker 2: Terms of, you know, councils still have to work through it.
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Speaker 4: So, you know, it didn't, it was up to each
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Speaker 4: council how they approached it and I think the government
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Speaker 4: made it clear that they wanted to have some proposals
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Speaker 4: and invited councils to be innovative around those proposals. And so, look,
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Speaker 4: the work that councils have done is going to be
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Speaker 4: helpful in the future. And I think it's also made
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Speaker 4: it clear which councils around the country are ready for
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Speaker 4: the conversation and which were least ready.
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Speaker 1: But you can understand them being up in arms regarding
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Speaker 1: the whole process, though.
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Speaker 4: Well, look, there's never a perfect time to do these things.
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Speaker 4: You could say... any particular time. And look, at the
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Speaker 4: end of the day, it's thinking through this and having
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Speaker 4: discussion with your communities is really important.
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Speaker 2: And that has now been done.
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Speaker 4: So it's got this process underway, which I think is
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Speaker 4: really important and is necessary as the Resource Management Act
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Speaker 4: replacements bed in. So will the reform of government, local
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Speaker 4: government need to bed in as well.
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Speaker 1: The India Free Trade Agreement, this has been put through.
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Speaker 1: Good new story this too, in my opinion.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that passed last week with the overwhelming majority of
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Speaker 4: Parliament voted in support of it. A big deal for
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Speaker 4: New Zealand. It's 400 million middle-class people in India. It
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Speaker 4: opens up a significantly new market for us. From day one,
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Speaker 4: it's going to reduce... tariffs on a whole range of
18:52
Speaker 4: our goods. It's going to be a big deal for
18:53
Speaker 4: sheep and beef farming and wool, for example.
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Speaker 2: So it's a big new opportunity for New Zealand. We're
19:00
Speaker 2: a trading nation.
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Speaker 4: It's a very challenging geopolitical environment that we now have.
19:06
Speaker 1: You should have had butter chicken on Wednesday night and
19:08
Speaker 1: invited New Zealand first round Joseph.
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well, look, I think New Zealand first, you know,
19:17
Speaker 4: our local localish man, Mark Patterson, was over in India
19:22
Speaker 4: very shortly after we agreed to talk about wool. Despite
19:27
Speaker 4: some of the rhetoric that some people make, I think
19:29
Speaker 4: people recognise that we're a trading nation and things like
19:33
Speaker 4: selling our wool to other markets like India is really important.
19:37
Speaker 1: Postnatal stays, a bit of news around this?
19:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is. The very last.
19:45
Speaker 4: Law that was passed in Parliament on Wednesday evening, or later, evening,
19:51
Speaker 4: was a bill to make three-day postnatal stays guaranteed for
19:55
Speaker 4: mums who want it. So that's a big deal, I think,
19:58
Speaker 4: for mums that need that time to stay in a
20:02
Speaker 4: managed space where they can spend more time with their
20:05
Speaker 4: baby and with their families getting used to that post-birth time.
20:10
Speaker 2: They get a guarantee of three days.
20:13
Speaker 4: Postnatal stay, which is, I think, really good news for
20:18
Speaker 4: mums and families all across New Zealand.
20:21
Speaker 1: And just finally this weekend, the Blossom Festival, a.k.a. the
20:24
Speaker 1: Bogan Festival, perhaps not as bad as what it used
20:26
Speaker 1: to be back in the day, but this is supposed
20:28
Speaker 1: to signify spring, although it's hard to really think that
20:32
Speaker 1: way down here with the weather.
20:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely pretty wet at the moment, but no,
20:36
Speaker 4: the Blossom Festival is New Zealand's longest-running festival.
20:40
Speaker 2: Festival of its type. And you're back on again tomorrow.
20:44
Speaker 4: Just hoping that the rain's going to hold off because spring,
20:48
Speaker 4: you know, spring, well, the flowers are out now.
20:52
Speaker 2: The blossoms are definitely out. It's looking beautiful.
20:55
Speaker 4: We'd definitely like a little bit of dry weather so
20:58
Speaker 4: everyone can enjoy it. So that'll kick off in Alexandra tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Any idea what the blossom to bogan ratio will be?
21:06
Speaker 4: Well, well, The Blossoms will be there.
21:09
Speaker 2: I'll be there. I don't know if I qualify as
21:11
Speaker 2: a Bogan or not. We'll see.
21:14
Speaker 1: Hey, Joseph Mooney, MP for Southland, thanks for your time
21:16
Speaker 1: as always. Enjoy the weekend.
21:18
Speaker 2: You got it, mate. Appreciate it.
21:22
Speaker 1: Joseph Mooney, MP for Southland. Of course, the Alexandra Blossom Festival,
21:27
Speaker 1: synonymous down here in the South, kicking off tomorrow. You're
21:29
Speaker 1: listening to The Muster. Up next, Phil Duncan from Weatherwatch.
21:32
Speaker 1: Better talk to Phil, see where he's got to sit
21:34
Speaker 1: for the next week for the weather. Welcome back to
21:47
Speaker 1: The Muster. It is time to catch up with Phil
21:49
Speaker 1: Duncan of Weatherwatch. And I'm here.
21:52
Speaker 6: To remind you of the mess you left when you
21:58
Speaker 6: went away.
22:00
Speaker 2: It's not fair to deny me of.
22:04
Speaker 4: The cry.
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Speaker 1: G'day, Phil.
22:13
Speaker 6: G'day, g'day.
22:14
Speaker 1: Are we seeing a breaking of the cycle for the
22:17
Speaker 1: weather down here in the south? I'll be honest, it's
22:20
Speaker 1: felt a little bit warmer recently.
22:23
Speaker 6: I think we are starting to see some changes, like
22:25
Speaker 6: not only because our days are getting longer, so we've
22:28
Speaker 6: got more sunlight to warm up the day, but we're
22:31
Speaker 6: also just seeing a slight shift in the weather pattern.
22:34
Speaker 6: Not a major one at all, but just enough to
22:37
Speaker 6: drag in some warmer winds out of Australia. And I
22:40
Speaker 6: think We'll get a better chance of that next week.
22:43
Speaker 6: Not this week, but next week, we definitely get more
22:46
Speaker 6: of a westerly flow. And I think as early as Tuesday,
22:50
Speaker 6: you'll start to see those temperatures climbing back up again.
22:53
Speaker 6: And certainly by Wednesday and Thursday, it looks like you'll
22:56
Speaker 6: have a warmer northwesterly that begins its life way up
23:00
Speaker 6: in inland outback parts of New South Wales and desert
23:04
Speaker 6: parts of Queensland. So that's the kind of wind that
23:07
Speaker 6: you want to get after the weather that you've been having.
23:10
Speaker 1: Okay, so based on that, are we going to see
23:12
Speaker 1: the ground to start to dry out soon? Have we
23:14
Speaker 1: got those kind of winds in the forecast?
23:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. The winds aren't overly strong. It's
23:21
Speaker 6: just more of that airflow that just sort of gradually
23:25
Speaker 6: starts to push temperatures.
23:26
Speaker 5: Up more and more.
23:27
Speaker 6: We do see that as we go into next week.
23:30
Speaker 6: It's a northwesterly wind next Thursday and Friday. So really, Wednesday, Thursday,
23:35
Speaker 6: Friday next week, your maximum temperatures could be anywhere between
23:38
Speaker 6: as low as 15 degrees and as high as maybe
23:42
Speaker 6: 18 or 19. So we've got some warmer days coming through.
23:46
Speaker 6: The downside is between now and then, we've got another
23:49
Speaker 6: polar blast coming through, and that will be especially noticeable
23:53
Speaker 6: on Saturday night and on Sunday morning. You've got wet
23:57
Speaker 6: weather coming through on Saturday night with an overnight low
24:00
Speaker 6: of four, which means there is a very good chance
24:03
Speaker 6: there'll be snow on the hills around you. Whether it
24:05
Speaker 6: settles or not is a different question. But snow is
24:08
Speaker 6: expected on the hills around you. Can't even rule out
24:11
Speaker 6: the chance of some snow flurries in Gore itself. Because,
24:15
Speaker 6: as I say, if it's four degrees and raining, that's
24:18
Speaker 6: getting down into that close to snow territory. Or it
24:21
Speaker 6: may just be kind of a sleety rain. Sunday's cold
24:24
Speaker 6: with a high of eight. Monday's cold with a high
24:26
Speaker 6: of nine. But like I say, it warms up next week.
24:29
Speaker 6: And so hopefully next week you'll be able to say
24:32
Speaker 6: in Southland, gosh, it's feeling like spring rather than winter
24:36
Speaker 6: ever ends.
24:37
Speaker 1: Okay, the cycle for October then, are we going to
24:40
Speaker 1: see a continuation or gradually we will be able to
24:43
Speaker 1: get these warmer temperatures, get that ground growing, get some
24:46
Speaker 1: groundwork done, some tailing up and running?
24:49
Speaker 6: Yeah, what we're looking for with the longer range modelling
24:52
Speaker 6: is what happens with the placement of the big high
24:55
Speaker 6: pressure zones that we've got around the country at the moment.
24:58
Speaker 6: And as I look forward into October, the long range maps,
25:03
Speaker 6: are still showing high pressure zones coming out of the
25:06
Speaker 6: Tasman Sea. That's what we would expect, by the way,
25:09
Speaker 6: during El Nino. That is a classic El Nino setup
25:12
Speaker 6: to be getting high pressure west of us. And so
25:15
Speaker 6: that is certainly in the forecast as we go through
25:17
Speaker 6: the next couple of weeks going into October. Still getting
25:20
Speaker 6: a westerly flow, which means a warm nor'westerly one day,
25:23
Speaker 6: a colder southwesterly a couple of days later. But hopefully
25:27
Speaker 6: some of those highs might start to track further into
25:30
Speaker 6: New Zealand as we go through the middle part of October.
25:33
Speaker 6: So that would bring us more settled days. But it's
25:36
Speaker 6: still a little bit messy coming through. But what I'm
25:38
Speaker 6: looking at here, just while I'm talking to you, seems
25:41
Speaker 6: to be a drop in that polar boundary, the polar
25:44
Speaker 6: boundary that has been frequently surging up and over New Zealand.
25:48
Speaker 6: Not to say that it won't come back in again
25:50
Speaker 6: in the middle of October. But what I am seeing
25:53
Speaker 6: is a lack of that colder weather over us quite
25:55
Speaker 6: as much over the next couple of weeks coming through.
25:58
Speaker 6: So I'm really hopeful that this weekend may be kind
26:01
Speaker 6: of a break after this cold front comes through, maybe
26:04
Speaker 6: a bit of a break from getting quite so many
26:07
Speaker 6: of these colder weather changes.
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Speaker 1: Where are we as far as El Nino, I suppose,
26:10
Speaker 1: would be the best way to ask?
26:12
Speaker 6: Well, it's still strengthening. It's still intensifying. So it's warming
26:18
Speaker 6: up more at the equator north of Fiji, and that's
26:21
Speaker 6: going to continue to do so for another couple more months.
26:24
Speaker 6: There are signs, though, that it may not get much
26:26
Speaker 6: stronger than it already is. That bodes well for us
26:29
Speaker 6: at the moment. Our weather pattern, I mean, I know
26:32
Speaker 6: it's not been overly pleasant for you, but for the
26:35
Speaker 6: country as a whole, it's been actually fairly positive this year,
26:39
Speaker 6: this spring. Now, if it can stay that way going
26:41
Speaker 6: through spring, that's really good, and we won't get many complaints.
26:46
Speaker 6: The thing that I'm most worried about is that these
26:48
Speaker 6: highs that have been out over the Tasman Sea bringing
26:51
Speaker 6: us these cold changes and these showers may start to
26:54
Speaker 6: actually cross over New Zealand a lot more. And if
26:57
Speaker 6: that happens, and as we get into November and each high,
27:00
Speaker 6: one after the other, starts to link up like a
27:03
Speaker 6: chain-link fence, that's when you start to run into really
27:06
Speaker 6: dry spells of weather. and that could be mixed in
27:09
Speaker 6: with windy westerlies. That would be the problem. So for
27:13
Speaker 6: the people that are saying so much for El Nino
27:15
Speaker 6: or so much for a super El Nino and all
27:17
Speaker 6: that jazz, I get it because the weather in New
27:19
Speaker 6: Zealand hasn't been too negative in the sense of it
27:22
Speaker 6: being dry and hot. But that change can happen from
27:26
Speaker 6: October onwards. And so that's why I'm saying just be
27:29
Speaker 6: cautious about what's going on, but we should be happy
27:33
Speaker 6: that the Southern Ocean is very active at the moment
27:35
Speaker 6: And while that has brought you a bit of a
27:36
Speaker 6: miserable spring so far, it may actually be a bit
27:39
Speaker 6: of a silver lining if we go into a drier spell.
27:42
Speaker 6: So El Nino is something to keep an eye on.
27:45
Speaker 6: For now, it's been a fairly positive event for New Zealand,
27:48
Speaker 6: but that could easily change over the next weeks ahead.
27:51
Speaker 6: And I'm not trying to say that to be negative
27:53
Speaker 6: or drum up ratings or anything like that, but just
27:55
Speaker 6: covering my bases, just saying that, yeah, it's been actually
27:58
Speaker 6: pretty good so far, but it may not hold on
28:00
Speaker 6: that way going through the months ahead.
28:02
Speaker 1: But at the moment, for the next seven days, a
28:04
Speaker 1: couple of colder nights ahead, but definitely getting double-digit temperatures
28:08
Speaker 1: into next week.
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Speaker 6: That is exactly it.
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Speaker 1: Well, take that, Phil Duncan. Always appreciate your time.
28:14
Speaker 6: My pleasure.
28:15
Speaker 4: Thank you.
28:17
Speaker 1: Phil Duncan of Weather Watch, every Friday here on the muster.
28:20
Speaker 1: Go and give him a follow on his social channels,
28:24
Speaker 1: YouTube and everything, doing a great job, and we always
28:26
Speaker 1: appreciate his time. Michelle, what's up next in the Country Crossover?
28:33
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Speaker 1: Ag Fertiliser. Michelle Watt joins us in The Country Crossover,
28:49
Speaker 1: executive producer of The Country out of Dunedin. Good afternoon, Michelle. Groovejet,
28:54
Speaker 1: Spiller featuring Sophie Ellis-Bexter, a massive hit that is 26
28:57
Speaker 1: years old.
28:59
Speaker 7: That's crazy, isn't it, to think it's 26 years old.
29:02
Speaker 7: I remember when that song came out, Andy, and I
29:04
Speaker 7: was doing, it was either, I think it might have
29:06
Speaker 7: been sixth form exams or seventh form exams, but to
29:09
Speaker 7: think that that's 26 years ago. In my head, I'm
29:11
Speaker 7: still 25. How's that possible?
29:14
Speaker 1: The first time I heard that song, I was in Bangkok.
29:18
Speaker 7: I bet a lot of people are using music at
29:19
Speaker 7: the moment to get through. The weather down south has
29:22
Speaker 7: not been very kind, has it, the last few weeks
29:25
Speaker 7: or so?
29:25
Speaker 1: No, it hasn't. And there's a lot on that, though.
29:29
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of community events that are occurring
29:31
Speaker 1: over the next week or two. For example, Beef and
29:33
Speaker 1: Lamb's got their spring shouts happening next Wednesday at Tokanui
29:37
Speaker 1: and on Thursday at the Central Pirates Rugby Club, both
29:39
Speaker 1: at the rugby clubs in those respective towns and the
29:43
Speaker 1: following week too. So there's a lot of events that
29:46
Speaker 1: are going on down here for farmers which is going
29:49
Speaker 1: to be appreciated.
29:51
Speaker 7: I think so. I mean sometimes it's just about getting together,
29:53
Speaker 7: isn't it? And realising that you're not the only one
29:55
Speaker 7: that's going through it. Or you even asking for a
29:59
Speaker 7: bit of help if someone has got some spare time
30:00
Speaker 7: to come lend a hand if you are struggling through.
30:03
Speaker 7: Because it is tough being out there in the wet,
30:05
Speaker 7: the cold. I don't, I have no desire. I don't
30:10
Speaker 7: like cold places, Andy, I'll be honest about that. But
30:12
Speaker 7: being wet and cold, it's hard work, especially walking around
30:15
Speaker 7: in the mud and stuff. And even with daylight savings,
30:17
Speaker 7: it's going to be a bit lighter at night. It's
30:19
Speaker 7: still not very pleasant.
30:21
Speaker 1: Look, interesting, yesterday Fonterra, a good news story, and this
30:24
Speaker 1: comes along following just, we learned not long after that,
30:27
Speaker 1: about the $ 525 pen of lambs at Charlton.
30:31
Speaker 7: It's all, you know, negatives and positives, right? I mean,
30:34
Speaker 7: that $ 525 lamb, though, that is insane. And that is
30:38
Speaker 7: some sort of record, isn't it?
30:39
Speaker 1: That would have to be, I've never heard of a
30:41
Speaker 1: lamb for that price at a sale yards in New Zealand.
30:43
Speaker 1: That's not to say it hasn't happened, but I'm wondering.
30:46
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a lot of money for a lamb, which
30:49
Speaker 7: is great for the industry. And of course, the results
30:51
Speaker 7: from the full year results from Fonterra released. Everything's good
30:56
Speaker 7: news across the board in that respect. So I think
30:58
Speaker 7: people should be fairly happy.
31:00
Speaker 1: Absolutely. But Fonterra, yes, it's a bit inflated by the
31:04
Speaker 1: selling of their commercial earlier on in the year. But nonetheless,
31:08
Speaker 1: a great result.
31:09
Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely. And you've got to look at the positive
31:11
Speaker 7: sides of it and just keep going, I think, especially
31:14
Speaker 7: with the election coming up. I think that's driving quite
31:16
Speaker 7: a lot of negativity at the moment and people sort
31:19
Speaker 7: of getting a bit down about that. You get positive
31:21
Speaker 7: news like that, it lifts you back up.
31:23
Speaker 1: And Parliament's just risen for the term, I suppose. But look,
31:27
Speaker 1: this is an interesting one coming out yesterday and a
31:31
Speaker 1: frustrating one for a lot of people, if not, let
31:33
Speaker 1: alone councils. Local government reform has been paused. What an
31:38
Speaker 1: absolute waste of time and money.
31:39
Speaker 7: Yeah, I found this very interesting, Andy. In fact, I
31:42
Speaker 7: had to read the headline twice because I was thinking
31:45
Speaker 7: how they rushed that through. They put a lot of pressure...
31:49
Speaker 7: on those councils, didn't they, to come up with a
31:51
Speaker 7: plan and then to turn around and say, oh, we're
31:53
Speaker 7: going to pause it now, seems slightly odd.
31:57
Speaker 1: I can understand them wanting to get something in there,
31:59
Speaker 1: but at the very least it would have been a
32:01
Speaker 1: great option to have at the election a referendum around
32:04
Speaker 1: local council reform because this just seems like a big
32:07
Speaker 1: waste of time. That's not to say they're not going
32:09
Speaker 1: to continue it, they are next year, but what's to
32:12
Speaker 1: say the dynamics of government don't change?
32:15
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, if the government changes, will it? keep going
32:18
Speaker 7: it's one of those things that I can't remember if
32:19
Speaker 7: it was a bipartisan agreement with this I don't think
32:21
Speaker 7: it is like a government thing yeah so it could
32:23
Speaker 7: be interesting to see what happens moving forward but yeah
32:27
Speaker 7: I thought there was a lot of fuss put around
32:28
Speaker 7: that and there was a lot of pressure put on
32:30
Speaker 7: councils in a very short amount of time to make
32:33
Speaker 7: it to make decisions and to then put a pause
32:36
Speaker 7: on it and sort of almost say they could have
32:38
Speaker 7: given them more time seems kind of strange.
32:40
Speaker 1: It almost comes across as interesting or intriguing as John
32:45
Speaker 1: Key's flag referendum or vanity project, as some people called
32:48
Speaker 1: it back in the day, and the amount of money
32:51
Speaker 1: that got wasted on that. But you just look at
32:52
Speaker 1: bureaucracy and money that just goes down the gurgler. It
32:55
Speaker 1: shouldn't happen.
32:56
Speaker 7: Well, could we compare the flag situation with John Key?
33:00
Speaker 7: Could you compare that to Trump's ark that he wants
33:02
Speaker 7: to build, the big archway that he wants to build?
33:06
Speaker 7: Is that kind of the same sort of thing?
33:07
Speaker 1: I haven't heard this one. I know that he wants
33:09
Speaker 1: to put himself on some money. They're putting his photo
33:12
Speaker 1: in passports. I mean, God, what isn't the guy doing?
33:15
Speaker 1: He's putting up the price of fuel as well by
33:17
Speaker 1: the day.
33:18
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, that was scary yesterday, driving home, seeing that
33:21
Speaker 7: go up. I haven't seen it shoot up like that since.
33:24
Speaker 1: You know, a couple of months ago.
33:26
Speaker 7: Yeah, when it was quite bad. But, I mean, you've
33:28
Speaker 7: just got to take it as it is, right? It's
33:29
Speaker 7: a bit like everything at the moment. If you worry
33:31
Speaker 7: about it too much, you'll worry about everything and you'll
33:34
Speaker 7: get yourself into a bit of a, frenzy about it
33:37
Speaker 7: when really it's not something you can control. You've just
33:38
Speaker 7: got to deal with it.
33:40
Speaker 1: It's about the bigger picture now. Your beloved Waza out
33:43
Speaker 1: of the NRL finals. So now you can jump on
33:45
Speaker 1: the AFL bandwagon. Fremantle up against the Brisbane Lions tomorrow.
33:49
Speaker 1: I talk about the sport a lot. I watch a
33:51
Speaker 1: lot of it. I think it's fantastic. It's a way
33:53
Speaker 1: better thing to watch than Super Rugby or a lot
33:55
Speaker 1: of rugby because the ball is just consistently in play.
33:58
Speaker 1: That is the appeal of AFL.
34:01
Speaker 7: Oh, AFL is the craziest game to watch. If anyone
34:04
Speaker 7: out there has ever not watched it, definitely tune in
34:06
Speaker 7: this weekend because a final, and I can speak from
34:08
Speaker 7: experience of watching finals on TV of AFL, is the
34:12
Speaker 7: most crazy thing you'll ever see. The sport itself, the
34:15
Speaker 7: men that play this sport, and I believe, I think
34:18
Speaker 7: there might be women's teams actually.
34:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are, AFLW.
34:21
Speaker 7: So they're just so athletic. They have to jump in
34:24
Speaker 7: the air. They have to, it's insane what they can do.
34:27
Speaker 1: You can start a rugby players though.
34:29
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's the skill level. It's insane. And like
34:31
Speaker 7: you said, the game is in play the whole time.
34:33
Speaker 7: So it's something to watch. It's just the most insane thing.
34:36
Speaker 7: And I would absolutely recommend sitting down and watching that.
34:39
Speaker 7: And of course, it would be great to be there
34:40
Speaker 7: for the, I think it's the pre-show or the half-time
34:43
Speaker 7: show when Kylie Minogue is performing.
34:44
Speaker 1: No chance. It'll be 100,000 fans there. Even though the
34:47
Speaker 1: final is containing two teams not from Victoria, it'll still
34:52
Speaker 1: sell out. Actually, Friday, I'm not too sure what the
34:55
Speaker 1: go is there, but traditionally the Friday is a day
34:57
Speaker 1: off for Victoria because they do the grand final parade. However,
35:00
Speaker 1: two out-of-town teams, I'm not sure what's happened there. But
35:03
Speaker 1: a mate of mine once described AFL as a sport
35:06
Speaker 1: that celebrates a perpetual knock-on.
35:09
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a very weird game to watch. It's different.
35:13
Speaker 7: The rules are weird. It's very difficult to follow at times,
35:18
Speaker 7: but it is really fun to watch. And yeah, I
35:21
Speaker 7: guess when you think about it, it is a bit
35:22
Speaker 7: of a game of playing knock-on. So if you're good
35:25
Speaker 7: at doing knock-ons, you'll be great at it.
35:26
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And Kylie Minogue's halftime for the entertainment, coincidentally, better
35:30
Speaker 1: than the NRL in their no-show.
35:33
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was so surprised by this because Kylie Minogue,
35:36
Speaker 7: such a great act. It just shows how big AFL
35:39
Speaker 7: is compared to some of the other sports, I think.
35:42
Speaker 1: Good on you, Michelle. Enjoy the weekend.
35:44
Speaker 7: You too.
35:47
Speaker 1: Michelle Watt and the Country Crossover, thanks to Bioactive Soils.
35:51
Speaker 1: Nick Burley's up next. He'll talk a bit of AFL.
35:54
Speaker 1: He's a dyed-in-the-wool Hawthorne fan. His team went out at
35:57
Speaker 1: the preliminary final stage, but there's bigger fish to fry,
36:00
Speaker 1: let's be honest. What's happening with the NPC next year?
36:12
Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is the muster on Hakanui. Nick Bewley
36:15
Speaker 1: joins us out of Newstalk ZB. Good afternoon, Nick. How's
36:19
Speaker 1: the week been?
36:21
Speaker 8: Hey, good day, Andy. I'll tell you what, after the
36:24
Speaker 8: weekend from hell from my sporting team perspective, I'm pretty
36:29
Speaker 8: relieved to get to Friday. It was pretty tough to
36:33
Speaker 8: take Around Sunday with the Warriors, even though I have
36:38
Speaker 8: roots in the Deep South, I grew up in North
36:41
Speaker 8: Harbour and I'm based in Christchurch. That was a really
36:44
Speaker 8: tough one to take. In the NBC with Canterbury getting
36:47
Speaker 8: up just against Harbour, I play AFL and my dad's
36:52
Speaker 8: based in Tasmania and had a long affiliation with the
36:55
Speaker 8: Hawthorn Hawks who were beaten on the siren in the
36:57
Speaker 8: preliminary final. And my AFL team here in Christchurch lost. So, yeah,
37:01
Speaker 8: it was a horrendous weekend. But the sun came up
37:05
Speaker 8: and we move on. And, yeah, looking forward to this
37:08
Speaker 8: weekend and what's in store.
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Speaker 1: Do you think the AFL is gaining any traction amongst
37:13
Speaker 1: New Zealand sporting fans? Or is it a case of
37:15
Speaker 1: it's over there? It's like getting New Zealanders to follow
37:17
Speaker 1: the NFL if you're not into it, I suppose.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm probably the worst person to ask, Andy, because
37:22
Speaker 8: I am a little bit immersed in the AFL world,
37:26
Speaker 8: but it certainly is nation. Look, we've got a four-team
37:28
Speaker 8: club competition here in Christchurch. That is good to see
37:31
Speaker 8: some new faces and guys who play a bit of
37:34
Speaker 8: rugby or rugby league, just keen to stay fit and
37:36
Speaker 8: active or be social. But yeah, I do speak to
37:41
Speaker 8: a couple of people running around the offices and they'll
37:43
Speaker 8: just stumble across a game on Sky and go, gee whiz,
37:47
Speaker 8: this is this is athletic, this is skillful, this is chaotic.
37:51
Speaker 5: All of the above.
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Speaker 8: And certainly tomorrow, it is arguably, if not the biggest,
37:58
Speaker 8: one of the biggest days on the Australian sporting calendar
38:01
Speaker 8: with the magnitude of the crowd they'll get at the
38:03
Speaker 8: Melbourne Cricket Ground. And that's even considering two teams that
38:07
Speaker 8: are from outside Victoria and the Fremantle Dockers and the
38:10
Speaker 8: Brisbane Lions. So, I don't think it's probably cutting through
38:15
Speaker 8: and ever going to be too much bigger than what
38:17
Speaker 8: it is here in New Zealand, but I've certainly noticed
38:21
Speaker 8: perhaps over the last few years a few more people
38:23
Speaker 8: with more games on TV, a bit more social media.
38:27
Speaker 8: You can easily get highlights of a game pretty easily.
38:30
Speaker 8: The awareness is up a touch, that would be my
38:33
Speaker 8: read at least.
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Speaker 1: What are your read into the situation with the NZR
38:37
Speaker 1: and these proposed changes to Super Rugby and the NPC?
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Speaker 8: It's pretty tough, Andy, to get a read on exactly
38:45
Speaker 8: what's going to happen. Listening to Steve Lancaster, the New
38:48
Speaker 8: Zealand rugby boss, on Newstalk ZB with C. Allen yesterday,
38:51
Speaker 8: I thought the salient point he made is yesterday that
38:54
Speaker 8: summit in Wellington was mostly a meeting of the minds.
38:58
Speaker 8: There was never going to be a decision or a
39:00
Speaker 8: vote or anything like that. But he laid bare the
39:03
Speaker 8: financial position in terms of $ 66 million. That's a forecast
39:07
Speaker 8: loss over the next five years, a five-year period in
39:10
Speaker 8: which The British and Irish Lions tour New Zealand, arguably
39:13
Speaker 8: the biggest cash cow in rugby outside of a World Cup.
39:17
Speaker 8: So look, Steve Lancaster said himself, they're not going to
39:21
Speaker 8: do nothing, which for me at least was encouraging because
39:25
Speaker 8: how many reports have we had? How many summits have
39:27
Speaker 8: we had the stakeholders with various interests whether it be
39:30
Speaker 8: the professional provincial unions sorry the super rugby franchises the
39:34
Speaker 8: players association and New Zealand rugby as the governing body
39:38
Speaker 8: so it'll be fascinating to see exactly where it lands
39:41
Speaker 8: I think out of all the options that were found
39:44
Speaker 8: have found its way into the media I The third option,
39:47
Speaker 8: one being pushed by unnamed provincial unions around blowing up
39:51
Speaker 8: Super Rugby and going at it alone with a New
39:54
Speaker 8: Zealand-centric or a super-powered NPC competition. It's certainly fascinating, but
40:01
Speaker 8: I find that the least likely to go ahead. I
40:04
Speaker 8: just can't see a situation now that we're 30-odd years
40:07
Speaker 8: down the line where, and particularly seeing the impact more
40:11
Speaker 8: at a higher level, all-black level, from isolation now from
40:16
Speaker 8: South Africa, that New Zealand rugby would consider moving away
40:20
Speaker 8: from a coexistence with Australia and the Pacific in terms
40:25
Speaker 8: of the Fijian driller. And I certainly think there are
40:29
Speaker 8: some merits to the discussion around amalgamation in some of
40:33
Speaker 8: the key centres. Like I'm hearing Christchurch, literally the Canterbury
40:37
Speaker 8: Rugby Union, and the Crusaders are still in the same building,
40:40
Speaker 8: but there's a lot of duplication, in my view, in
40:43
Speaker 8: terms of high performance, marketing, commercial, all this sort of stuff,
40:49
Speaker 8: which could probably be scaled right. Academies, who does what
40:52
Speaker 8: and when. So there's a lot of decisions to be made.
40:55
Speaker 8: So this is an encouraging sign that hopefully in the
40:58
Speaker 8: next six to 12 months, a decision is going to
41:02
Speaker 8: have to be made. Now, there's going to have to
41:04
Speaker 8: be compromise somewhere, And it feels like if you look
41:06
Speaker 8: at someone like David Kirk, who's come into New Zealand
41:09
Speaker 8: rugby as the president recently and shown how capable he
41:12
Speaker 8: is of making a difficult decision when you think about
41:15
Speaker 8: the All Blacks coaches at the beginning of this year,
41:18
Speaker 8: rather than the traditional path regarding the New Zealand rugby
41:23
Speaker 8: constitution where all the PUs and the Maori board all
41:26
Speaker 8: get a vote, I get the sense it's going to
41:28
Speaker 8: be David Kirk or Steve Lancaster going, you know what?
41:31
Speaker 8: this is best for rugby or best for us because
41:33
Speaker 8: we have to do something from a business perspective and
41:36
Speaker 8: someone isn't going to like it and they're going to
41:38
Speaker 8: have to suck it up. Otherwise, like any business, Andy,
41:42
Speaker 8: you can't just keep losing money hand over fist.
41:45
Speaker 5: Something we'll have to give.
41:47
Speaker 8: I don't know what that'll be, but I'm curious to
41:50
Speaker 8: see where it lands in the next year.
41:52
Speaker 1: Business is one thing, but fan engagement is the other,
41:55
Speaker 1: and that's the big one too.
41:58
Speaker 8: Oh, certainly, yeah. And look, I mean, I guess compared
42:01
Speaker 8: to where you are, Andy, down south, like I'm here
42:04
Speaker 8: in a market where we do have a Super Rugby
42:06
Speaker 8: team based here and an NBC team based here. And
42:11
Speaker 8: I think this year's been a little bit of an
42:13
Speaker 8: anomaly because we've also had a new stadium, so there's
42:15
Speaker 8: actually been significant interest in both teams. You know, the
42:19
Speaker 8: Canterbury NBC team have done really well to sell out
42:21
Speaker 8: the new stadium here. But I do see around the
42:24
Speaker 8: country how, you know, how much NPC teams mean to
42:28
Speaker 8: smaller regional areas like Southland, like Hawke's Bay, Manawatu, Taranaki.
42:34
Speaker 8: You know, you can list off a few. Northland at
42:36
Speaker 8: the moment with the Rand Philly Shield versus Super Rugby
42:39
Speaker 8: as well. So it just feels like, to me at least,
42:42
Speaker 8: there is.
42:42
Speaker 5: A lot of rugby.
42:44
Speaker 8: And I think there's certainly an argument to scale back
42:49
Speaker 8: a touch, certainly around the cost of the professional game wherever... But, yeah,
42:54
Speaker 8: there's no doubt, you know, it's fan first. We hear
42:58
Speaker 8: all the time about fan-centric and tribalism and all these things.
43:02
Speaker 8: You just look at somewhere like the Warriors in terms
43:04
Speaker 8: of capturing an audience, that's certainly, you'd think, got to
43:09
Speaker 8: be at the forefront of whatever decision is made.
43:12
Speaker 1: Just on the Warriors, are they going to regret letting
43:14
Speaker 1: Metcalf go next season?
43:17
Speaker 3: Hmm.
43:19
Speaker 2: Uh.
43:20
Speaker 8: I think with Tanner Boyd to come back, I think
43:26
Speaker 8: the short answer to that is no. Look, I think
43:29
Speaker 8: they are lacking some X factor, though, and that was
43:32
Speaker 8: laid bare over the course of the finals, losses to
43:35
Speaker 8: the Dolphins and the Knights, something outside of Tane Tua-Pickey
43:39
Speaker 8: in the first game. I mean, heck, they scored three
43:41
Speaker 8: tries in two games, and all three of them, Tane's
43:44
Speaker 8: trying the Dolphins game, Lick is two in the... night's
43:48
Speaker 8: game were pretty much all down to individual brilliance. So
43:50
Speaker 8: they're going to need something more than that going forward.
43:53
Speaker 8: They can't be over-reliant on one or two players. But
43:56
Speaker 8: the NRL is a tricky roster beast. Pretty much the
44:00
Speaker 8: roster is sort of set now unless something crazy happens
44:04
Speaker 8: between a player and a club somewhere else and there's
44:07
Speaker 8: a fallout situation like there was with Luke Metcalf and
44:10
Speaker 8: the Warriors earlier this year. So that's probably one of
44:12
Speaker 8: the big unknowns. Andy, this year at least, what was
44:17
Speaker 8: this Warriors team capable of? How did Luke Metcalfe stay
44:20
Speaker 8: on the field? How did Roger Tuivastashek stay.
44:23
Speaker 2: On the field?
44:24
Speaker 8: But that's the world we live in, unfortunately, where injuries occur.
44:28
Speaker 8: We make exactly the same argument for the Newcastle Knights,
44:31
Speaker 8: who had their million-dollar man, Dylan Brown, on the sidelines
44:35
Speaker 8: for the second half of the season, and they've still
44:37
Speaker 8: found a way.
44:38
Speaker 2: So, look.
44:40
Speaker 8: There's also an argument to be made, too, that you
44:41
Speaker 8: don't want to keep a player who is unhappy. Personally,
44:44
Speaker 8: as a Warriors fan, I was pretty disappointed by how that.
44:48
Speaker 5: All unfolded from the player.
44:50
Speaker 8: Perspective because I think if he just knuckled down, bided
44:55
Speaker 8: his time, proved his worth, he could have been anything
44:59
Speaker 8: at the Warriors.
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Speaker 1: Hey, good on you, Nick. Always appreciate your insights. Really interesting,
45:04
Speaker 1: especially regarding the NZR.
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Speaker 2: Cheers, Andy.
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