Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Cordae Talks New Music, Fatherhood, Lil Wayne's Influence, Avoiding Social Media + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody's the j Envy Jess hilarious, Charlamaine
- 0:08Speaker 2: the guy.
- 0:08Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club.
- 0:09Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the belling got the
- 0:11Speaker 2: brother cor Day, welcome back.
- 0:13Speaker 1: What's up y'all? Y'all feeling I feel good? I got
- 0:16Speaker 1: a third Breakfast Club interview. Man, That's that's tight.
- 0:19Speaker 4: Man.
- 0:19Speaker 1: A lot of people don't get to the third woman.
- 0:20Speaker 4: Man, that's true about that.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Well, are you feeling happy?
- 0:24Speaker 1: Holidays?
- 0:24Speaker 4: Man?
- 0:24Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I'm feeling good man. You know, just
- 0:26Speaker 1: landed this morning, so I'm good.
- 0:27Speaker 4: I feel like The Crossroads, which is your new project,
- 0:30Speaker 4: I feel like it should be in a lot of
- 0:32Speaker 4: rap album of the year categories.
- 0:33Speaker 1: I concur Yeah, I agree.
- 0:35Speaker 4: Why do you think it's not because all the black
- 0:37Speaker 4: people got fired at Atlantic?
- 0:38Speaker 5: The team Jesus my goodness. You know what what God
- 0:43Speaker 5: has in store for me, no man can get in
- 0:45Speaker 5: the way of. And I think post album marketing is
- 0:50Speaker 5: just as important, if not more important, than pre album marketing.
- 0:53Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like I've had albums.
- 0:55Speaker 5: To where they really get their legs, like six months
- 0:58Speaker 5: later after it comes out out.
- 1:00Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:00Speaker 5: You still you got to tour, you gotta. I mean,
- 1:02Speaker 5: I's been out a month and I'm doing this with y'all.
- 1:05Speaker 5: It's gonna be a bunch of new people who may
- 1:06Speaker 5: not have even known I dropped something that see this.
- 1:09Speaker 5: So I think post album, post release marketing is just
- 1:13Speaker 5: like super important.
- 1:14Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:14Speaker 4: You know we had a boss man Dilo up here,
- 1:16Speaker 4: and he said that he values reaction over sales. Okay,
- 1:20Speaker 4: you consider successful this album or any album I would.
- 1:26Speaker 1: I guess it depends on how you define reactions.
- 1:28Speaker 5: So but I guess how people I don't know because
- 1:31Speaker 5: I try not to put like two because I'm an
- 1:34Speaker 5: artist and I'm sensitive about my shit, right the quote Erica,
- 1:37Speaker 5: So I try not to put too much, like I guess,
- 1:41Speaker 5: thought or energy into reaction. But I'll be I'll be
- 1:46Speaker 5: a live I said. It don't feel good when people
- 1:47Speaker 5: are like, yo, I love this album. And I've been
- 1:49Speaker 5: getting a lot of that amongst this album, a lot
- 1:51Speaker 5: of people telling me it's my best work.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I'm seeing online a bunch of people rock with it.
- 1:54Speaker 5: But for me, it's when I'm performing it that validation
- 1:58Speaker 5: for me is when I'm performing and people are like
- 2:00Speaker 5: reciting the lyrics to me. People are coming to see
- 2:03Speaker 5: me when I'm out and about and people are coming
- 2:05Speaker 5: up like yo, this line like just really register with me,
- 2:08Speaker 5: or like this song really connected with me, you know,
- 2:10Speaker 5: me and my family talked about.
- 2:12Speaker 1: This, and so that I guess that's the validation.
- 2:14Speaker 2: More so that success to you when people know your stuff,
- 2:17Speaker 2: listening to your stuff, your core. You don't need a
- 2:19Speaker 2: number to make it successful or do you.
- 2:23Speaker 5: No, just more so, I think to the point we
- 2:27Speaker 5: just made earlier and even the Boss de Law's point,
- 2:30Speaker 5: it's just like people liking it, people enjoying it. It does
- 2:33Speaker 5: feel good when people enjoy your music. Right As an artist,
- 2:36Speaker 5: like you gotta have can I curse?
- 2:38Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 2:38Speaker 5: Okay, you got to have a sense of like not
- 2:40Speaker 5: giving the fuck. You gotta like when you're in there
- 2:41Speaker 5: creating and you put it out like yo, you got
- 2:44Speaker 5: to think like I don't give a fuck with people,
- 2:45Speaker 5: think like truly, that's the only way you're gonna ever
- 2:47Speaker 5: put anything out right. But at the same token, it
- 2:51Speaker 5: feels really good when people actually do like the work
- 2:53Speaker 5: that you're putting out. So that feels good to get
- 2:56Speaker 5: such like positive like feedback from real people and fans
- 3:00Speaker 5: that's out there that I'm meeting in real life and
- 3:02Speaker 5: like fans online. But then also again that that validation
- 3:05Speaker 5: for me is when I'm performing it and people are
- 3:06Speaker 5: rapping the lyrics back to me coming to see me
- 3:09Speaker 5: performing the music.
- 3:10Speaker 1: So it is validation comes in the multitude of ways.
- 3:14Speaker 6: For Shure, why is it called the Crossroads? You said
- 3:17Speaker 6: it's your third time up here, it's also your third album. Yeah,
- 3:19Speaker 6: this is the Crossroads? Is that does have something to
- 3:22Speaker 6: do with your personal life, how you feel at what
- 3:24Speaker 6: point in your life are you right now?
- 3:26Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh my god, this is.
- 3:30Speaker 6: The Crossroads can mean a number of things, sir.
- 3:33Speaker 5: But well, I did sample on the intro. But but
- 3:39Speaker 5: more so for me, I had to pay homage. If
- 3:41Speaker 5: I'm gonna call album the Crossroads, I got to bring
- 3:43Speaker 5: some bone thugs in it. But for me, just more so,
- 3:46Speaker 5: it's like, when I was making this, the cross Roads
- 3:50Speaker 5: represent for me is like not necessarily know where I'm going.
- 3:54Speaker 5: And when I was making this album, I kept saying
- 3:56Speaker 5: I'm at a crossroads.
- 3:57Speaker 1: I'm at a crossroads.
- 3:58Speaker 5: I'm at a cross I say it like on like
- 4:01Speaker 5: seven different songs before I even knew the title of
- 4:03Speaker 5: the project. And so I'm like, well, I keep saying
- 4:05Speaker 5: this and music am I at a crossroads?
- 4:08Speaker 1: And so like, you know, quarter life Crisis is like
- 4:11Speaker 1: a real thing.
- 4:13Speaker 4: Quarter life crais, Yeah, you never heard of that?
- 4:16Speaker 5: No, you know, I think somebody I forgot who was
- 4:19Speaker 5: an artist, made an album called quarter Life Crisis. I
- 4:22Speaker 5: can't think of the name of it. I don't think
- 4:23Speaker 5: it was like a really big album. But like I
- 4:25Speaker 5: looked at it's a thing. It's I don't know if
- 4:27Speaker 5: it's a thing, but I've seen it there and it's
- 4:30Speaker 5: a thing. Right thirty No, oh my god, I'm twenty seven.
- 4:34Speaker 4: Bro, crisis, I said.
- 4:41Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a fresh.
- 4:42Speaker 5: Twenty seven too, But that's a but even at twenty
- 4:45Speaker 5: seven club, you know, not to speak that energy.
- 4:47Speaker 1: I'm gonna live a long, prosperous life.
- 4:49Speaker 5: But yeah, just more so the feeling of unknowing of
- 4:54Speaker 5: where I'm going next, you know what I'm saying, And
- 4:56Speaker 5: that's an exciting thing, but it's also it's fucking scary, honestly.
- 4:59Speaker 5: So that's how I came out with the Crossroad.
- 5:00Speaker 4: I don't believe a vision boards and stuff like that,
- 5:02Speaker 4: Like I mean, because you know, they always say you
- 5:04Speaker 4: can tell God your plans. He might got will laugh
- 5:07Speaker 4: at you like you're good playing.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Yeah, we plan God laugh.
- 5:09Speaker 5: Yeah that's a proverb, but I think it's a Yiddish proverb.
- 5:14Speaker 5: But I say all this to say, yeah, I definitely
- 5:17Speaker 5: make vision boards.
- 5:18Speaker 1: I do, like a planner at.
- 5:20Speaker 5: The end of every year, beginning the next year I've
- 5:23Speaker 5: been doing. I write in my little notebook while journal
- 5:26Speaker 5: a lot, and honestly, yo, I knocked out a bunch
- 5:28Speaker 5: of stuff that I wrote down. I did like a
- 5:30Speaker 5: thought bubble of goals more so at the end of
- 5:32Speaker 5: last year, and I knocked out a bunch of those stuff.
- 5:35Speaker 5: Like one of my thought bubbles was like to have
- 5:37Speaker 5: a song with with Yay formerly known as Kanye West.
- 5:40Speaker 5: That was on my thought bubble. And so yeah, I
- 5:43Speaker 5: do vision boards. I write down goals and dreams and stuff.
- 5:46Speaker 5: But I haven't done a vision board since twenty eighteen.
- 5:48Speaker 5: So I literally thought about that like a couple of
- 5:50Speaker 5: days ago. I'm like, not at the end of this year,
- 5:52Speaker 5: I'm gonna do another vision board. But I always like
- 5:53Speaker 5: write down my goals and stuff for the next year,
- 5:55Speaker 5: for sure.
- 5:56Speaker 4: But even with that, you don't know where you want
- 5:58Speaker 4: to go.
- 5:58Speaker 5: Now I do know where I want to go, but
- 6:00Speaker 5: it's more like just you can have you can have
- 6:04Speaker 5: an idea where you want to go, but where you
- 6:06Speaker 5: actually go it is sometimes the difference. Sometimes you write
- 6:08Speaker 5: on the money like y'all want to do this, I
- 6:11Speaker 5: want to do this this year, this, this and that,
- 6:14Speaker 5: and then your path can be like, well I did this,
- 6:15Speaker 5: this and that, but actually that wasn't right for me,
- 6:17Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So God brought me here,
- 6:20Speaker 5: but what I've learned is too was like what's meant
- 6:22Speaker 5: for you will never miss you, no matter how hard
- 6:24Speaker 5: you try to fuck it up. You know what I'm saying,
- 6:26Speaker 5: It's never meant for me. Excuse me, what was meant
- 6:28Speaker 5: for me will never miss me? You know, how is
- 6:30Speaker 5: your life? How is your life changed now that you
- 6:32Speaker 5: have a child? Right because it was one years old? Yeah,
- 6:34Speaker 5: one and a half and a half, Yes, sir.
- 6:36Speaker 3: How is things changed as a young father?
- 6:38Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 6:39Speaker 5: For me, it's more having a respect for my time,
- 6:43Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, being more like discipline when
- 6:45Speaker 5: it comes to my time, and also having more respect
- 6:48Speaker 5: for other people's time. You know, because I'm like, I
- 6:50Speaker 5: want people to respect my time because I got kids,
- 6:52Speaker 5: I can you know, when I leave the house, it
- 6:56Speaker 5: needs to be something important or something that I love
- 6:59Speaker 5: to do. Something that's for feeling fulfillment for me is
- 7:01Speaker 5: going into the studio enjoying good times with friends.
- 7:05Speaker 1: You know, my job is.
- 7:08Speaker 5: I mean, you know, this is essentially I want. This
- 7:11Speaker 5: doesn't even feel like a job to me though, to
- 7:13Speaker 5: be honest, but I say this to.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Say, yeah, no exactly, it's a fresh code.
- 7:17Speaker 5: But I say all this to say, yeah, when I
- 7:22Speaker 5: leave the house, it has to be something important, you know.
- 7:24Speaker 5: So it just really has me focused on like time
- 7:26Speaker 5: management and versus before, like I'll be you know, as
- 7:29Speaker 5: an artist, like you'll be in the studio from like
- 7:31Speaker 5: nine pm the six am one day, then the next
- 7:33Speaker 5: day it might be like from seven pm to three am,
- 7:36Speaker 5: so you're kind of all over the place versus like
- 7:38Speaker 5: when since I had a daughter, it's like now I'm
- 7:40Speaker 5: in the studio from nine am to six pm six
- 7:43Speaker 5: days a week, and then three out of those six
- 7:45Speaker 5: days I come back to the studio from like ten
- 7:48Speaker 5: pm to four am. So it's more of like a
- 7:50Speaker 5: regiment of me like recording and stuff. And I think
- 7:53Speaker 5: I'm more productive now because I don't take my time
- 7:55Speaker 5: for granted.
- 7:56Speaker 4: You know, I feel like work though, Like if you
- 7:57Speaker 4: set like work hours nine to six is create activity
- 8:00Speaker 4: comes all times a day, all times at night.
- 8:02Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I do that. That's why I do
- 8:04Speaker 5: three times a day. I do it at night too.
- 8:06Speaker 5: But I've noticed all the most successful artists that I've
- 8:09Speaker 5: talked with a.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Linked with, they work like that.
- 8:11Speaker 5: Like for real, he works like from like nine am
- 8:14Speaker 5: to like three, like he works at like a nine
- 8:17Speaker 5: to five. I've seen somewhere Eminem is in the studio
- 8:19Speaker 5: every day nine to five. He takes a lunch break
- 8:22Speaker 5: at noon. You know what I'm saying, a bunch of
- 8:24Speaker 5: other successful artists. I know they're like on a regimented.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Schedule because where I guess motivation.
- 8:35Speaker 5: Is low, that's where discipline kicks in or inspiration you know,
- 8:38Speaker 5: is low. That's where just like discipline comes in.
- 8:40Speaker 1: If. What I've learned too is like every verse that
- 8:42Speaker 1: I write is equity.
- 8:44Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Whether that verse makes the
- 8:45Speaker 5: album or not, that verse can be used for Let's
- 8:48Speaker 5: say somebody wants me on that song.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I can use their verse for that song.
- 8:51Speaker 5: I can use that verse for like a movie sync,
- 8:54Speaker 5: a video game sync.
- 8:55Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 8:56Speaker 5: And so me, I really it doesn't feel like work
- 8:58Speaker 5: to me above all else because like I love doing this,
- 9:00Speaker 5: like I love like being an aduljo if you would,
- 9:04Speaker 5: you know, And I switch up the times and locations
- 9:06Speaker 5: to where I cook at, like I might like rent
- 9:08Speaker 5: out of Airbnb for like two months, bring all my
- 9:11Speaker 5: studio equipment there, and we just creating out of there.
- 9:13Speaker 5: I might, you know, I find creative ways to get creative.
- 9:18Speaker 4: I saw one of those crazy YouTube videos and it
- 9:21Speaker 4: said though, it said why core Day's career hit a crossroad,
- 9:25Speaker 4: album flops horrendously. Yeah, do you feel your You just
- 9:29Speaker 4: said that you feel you at a crossroads, But do
- 9:31Speaker 4: you feel like your album floped?
- 9:33Speaker 5: No, because like probability of that. It's like some white
- 9:36Speaker 5: boy in Indiana. Not that it's a race thing, but
- 9:39Speaker 5: it's like the truth of the people that run thos
- 9:41Speaker 5: And like if you look at channels like that, their
- 9:43Speaker 5: whole channel subscribes to a bunch.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Of negativity, Like that's like what they're about. So you
- 9:49Speaker 1: can nitpick every artist in music.
- 9:52Speaker 5: You could find something negative and nitpick at where like
- 9:56Speaker 5: they lack of.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Where they lack in some department, you know what I'm saying.
- 10:00Speaker 5: But no, because like I had other albums that didn't
- 10:02Speaker 5: have like a strong first week, but again my tour
- 10:05Speaker 5: end up doing super well, and then later on it
- 10:08Speaker 5: grows and becomes like a larger thing, Like why I
- 10:11Speaker 5: spend all this time focusing on one week one week?
- 10:14Speaker 5: We're gonna spend all this time focusing on one week
- 10:17Speaker 5: when there is fifty two weeks out of the year,
- 10:19Speaker 5: Like you're gonna just give up on an album because
- 10:21Speaker 5: like it didn't have a super strong first week, you
- 10:23Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Excuse me what I'm saying.
- 10:25Speaker 5: And I think I get compared to like megastars like
- 10:31Speaker 5: my first Like if you compare like a Cord first
- 10:33Speaker 5: week sales to like a Kendrick Lamar first week sales,
- 10:36Speaker 5: of like, of course there's a discrepancy, But when it
- 10:38Speaker 5: comes to like my actual peers that do the type
- 10:41Speaker 5: of music that I do, this like it's all like
- 10:44Speaker 5: a balance. It's there, We're all doing the same comparative numbers.
- 10:47Speaker 5: You know, even though comparison is a thief for joy.
- 10:50Speaker 5: But just that's a whole nother perspective. But yeah, no
- 10:53Speaker 5: I don't.
- 10:54Speaker 1: I have no worry about what some white man says
- 10:56Speaker 1: about my career.
- 10:56Speaker 2: What's your relationship with Wayne? I see Wayne on a
- 10:58Speaker 2: project a couple of times.
- 11:00Speaker 5: Oh, Wayne is the one I've gone. I've gained so
- 11:05Speaker 5: many gems from Wayne, like honestly, like when it comes
- 11:08Speaker 5: to creativity, when it comes to creating music, when it
- 11:12Speaker 5: comes to like, he gave me some gems to like
- 11:16Speaker 5: you have to treat every single song like it's people's
- 11:21Speaker 5: first time hearing you, and it sounds so simple, but
- 11:24Speaker 5: it like lit a fire under my brain of like
- 11:27Speaker 5: nah Son like that is Yo, It's so simple, but
- 11:30Speaker 5: it says so much of like what happens is I've
- 11:32Speaker 5: been blessed. I have like a core audience and the
- 11:34Speaker 5: core fans that like rocks with me no matter what
- 11:35Speaker 5: I put out. But that can also become a hindrance
- 11:38Speaker 5: because you in the studio, you're like, Yo, my fans
- 11:40Speaker 5: gonna love this regardless, like no matter what I do,
- 11:42Speaker 5: versus you taking that approach of like I gotta make
- 11:44Speaker 5: a first impression on people. I gotta treat every song
- 11:47Speaker 5: like it's people's first time hearing it. It makes you
- 11:51Speaker 5: like really like want to give it your all, if
- 11:55Speaker 5: that makes sense, and want to make sure like, yo,
- 11:57Speaker 5: is this worth to hearing? You want to make a
- 11:58Speaker 5: good first impression and the fan and that way, the
- 12:01Speaker 5: fans that you already have, they're gonna be like, oh
- 12:02Speaker 5: my god, this is the greatest thing in the world.
- 12:04Speaker 5: And for somebody who's like fifty to fifty on you
- 12:06Speaker 5: who made by Okay, I heard a song, I heard
- 12:08Speaker 5: a freestyle. I don't know, like that here a song
- 12:11Speaker 5: then or album then they're like, oh nah, like they legit,
- 12:13Speaker 5: you know.
- 12:14Speaker 1: So I think that was a huge thing I learned
- 12:17Speaker 1: from Wayne.
- 12:18Speaker 5: And also like that work ethic just by this what
- 12:20Speaker 5: he teaches by doing, you know what I'm saying. Like
- 12:23Speaker 5: his I've been able to be blessed to watch him
- 12:25Speaker 5: up close and his work ethic is like incredible, and
- 12:28Speaker 5: his love for music it just never goes anywhere. And
- 12:30Speaker 5: you understand why he sold like three hundred million records
- 12:33Speaker 5: and ben he's like hip hop's Michael Jackson, if you would,
- 12:38Speaker 5: because if you think about it, there's not that many
- 12:40Speaker 5: people that were like child stars that went on to
- 12:43Speaker 5: become superstars and more successful as they get older.
- 12:47Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 12:50Speaker 4: Have you ever told you why he likes to collaborate
- 12:51Speaker 4: with you?
- 12:54Speaker 1: No, I don't ask. I didn't know. I got it.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Yeah nah, nah, I don't ask.
- 12:59Speaker 5: But I mean he definitely like give me my props
- 13:02Speaker 5: and my loves and just like yeah you want he
- 13:04Speaker 5: I mean, he says I'm a killer.
- 13:05Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He's like, now, you're a killer?
- 13:07Speaker 1: Like why?
- 13:08Speaker 5: Like you scary? You know what I'm saying. So he's like, Yo,
- 13:10Speaker 5: you're a killer. You scary. So I would assume that's
- 13:12Speaker 5: why the vote together one joint. We got one on
- 13:17Speaker 5: like unreleased joint. Yeah, but it's some. Yeah that that
- 13:20Speaker 5: mentorship and that guidance is like, uh, you can't put
- 13:24Speaker 5: a price tag.
- 13:27Speaker 4: You whispered that.
- 13:28Speaker 1: I guess how y'all wisper me?
- 13:31Speaker 3: That's what you wanted to hear.
- 13:32Speaker 1: I didn't say like that.
- 13:32Speaker 3: I said, how did y'all meet?
- 13:33Speaker 1: Actually he had a good job. Yeah, no, it's all good.
- 13:37Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, yeah, it's not my first.
- 13:44Speaker 5: We said what I was finna say, how we meet?
- 13:50Speaker 1: I did a.
- 13:52Speaker 5: Uh interview with he had a young Money not had
- 13:54Speaker 5: he has a Young Money radio music.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Yeah, so we started with that.
- 13:59Speaker 5: Then I got his number, he shot me his number
- 14:00Speaker 5: through there and it's just been like back and forth
- 14:02Speaker 5: since then.
- 14:02Speaker 1: You know.
- 14:03Speaker 4: I think we got to stop saying things like the
- 14:04Speaker 4: hip hop Michael Jackson though, yeah, only because Wayne is
- 14:08Speaker 4: Wayne and he's an all time great. I think sometimes
- 14:11Speaker 4: when we make those comparisons it puts unrealistic expectations because
- 14:14Speaker 4: I don't think people realize how big Michael Jackson. Well,
- 14:17Speaker 4: I think y'all generation says that shit, yeah, but y'all
- 14:19Speaker 4: really don't realize how big Michael Jackson. I mean, we
- 14:22Speaker 4: sold one hundred million records off one album.
- 14:24Speaker 7: They had to be there and yeah, you know what
- 14:28Speaker 7: I mean, to sell one hundred million records off one
- 14:30Speaker 7: album when people had to get up and go to
- 14:32Speaker 7: the store.
- 14:32Speaker 5: That's also a different thing going back to our earlier
- 14:37Speaker 5: points were like how albums are consumed, because when Michael
- 14:39Speaker 5: Jackson sold a hundred million records one hundred million people
- 14:43Speaker 5: or thirty million people three times like people you had
- 14:46Speaker 5: to actually leave your house and go to the store
- 14:48Speaker 5: to buy an album, versus now like like the Spotify,
- 14:52Speaker 5: Apple Music streaming equivalents. You gotta stream a song has
- 14:56Speaker 5: to stream fifteen hundred times to count is like one
- 15:00Speaker 5: angular unit to where you can have like five hundred
- 15:02Speaker 5: thousand people all streaming your music once and it equates
- 15:06Speaker 5: to like I can't do the math on the top
- 15:07Speaker 5: of my head, but like not like a high number.
- 15:10Speaker 5: So I say, going back to the original point of Dwayne,
- 15:13Speaker 5: you know what I find, comparison is the easiest way
- 15:16Speaker 5: to describe something, you know what I'm saying, Like, comparison
- 15:19Speaker 5: is like the easiest way to describe something.
- 15:21Speaker 1: So just my more so point was like.
- 15:25Speaker 4: It's like a mouthstar being growing to now yeah.
- 15:28Speaker 5: And being even more successful and better as an adult,
- 15:31Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
- 15:31Speaker 1: So that was the whole point.
- 15:32Speaker 5: But yeah, no, Michael, I'm I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan,
- 15:36Speaker 5: but I was born in ninety seven, you know what
- 15:37Speaker 5: I'm saying. So that was like what his story? Oh yeah,
- 15:43Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying. So yeah, yeah, like Invincible.
- 15:45Speaker 5: I was there for Invincible. That was so I love
- 15:48Speaker 5: I love Invincible. By the way, that album he got
- 15:50Speaker 5: the floor tree joint on there the Butterflies, So.
- 15:54Speaker 2: What do you think about streaming because I see you
- 15:55Speaker 2: broke it down, So you really thought about streaming, right, Yeah,
- 15:58Speaker 2: like you think about it? If I stream your full yeah,
- 16:01Speaker 2: and I only stream you once, that doesn't count as
- 16:02Speaker 2: a sale.
- 16:03Speaker 1: No, wild, you have to stream at fifteen hundred times.
- 16:06Speaker 1: The count is once, is wild?
- 16:08Speaker 3: So what's your thoughts on the streaming process?
- 16:10Speaker 2: And have And I know you signed, but would you
- 16:12Speaker 2: ever say, you know what, I'm gonna go direct to consume?
- 16:15Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
- 16:16Speaker 5: And you know what, it's a bunch of like I
- 16:18Speaker 5: always have these because I love music, I love hip hop.
- 16:21Speaker 5: I'm always having like not always, but I have these talks,
- 16:23Speaker 5: like amongst my friends of like the difference or like
- 16:26Speaker 5: even amongst other artists friends of like the pros and
- 16:28Speaker 5: cons of being an artist today versus like, let's say
- 16:31Speaker 5: the nineties, right, Like in the nineties, even early two thousands,
- 16:34Speaker 5: they made a lot more money off like actual act
- 16:37Speaker 5: off of music, off the actual music because it was
- 16:40Speaker 5: physical sales, you know what I'm saying. So where like again,
- 16:43Speaker 5: when you sold one million records, I mean one million
- 16:46Speaker 5: people bought it and it was let's say ten dollars
- 16:48Speaker 5: a copy to where like, yo, you're actually making so
- 16:51Speaker 5: my bad to going to tend and so back in
- 16:52Speaker 5: the nineties two thousands, right, they made more money off
- 16:55Speaker 5: the actual music, off music sales, publishing, et cetera. But
- 17:00Speaker 5: they weren't making as much on ancillaries like touring, merch,
- 17:05Speaker 5: brand endorsements. So today we had like I was in
- 17:09Speaker 5: a Coca Cola Super Bowl commercial as Corde. And I
- 17:12Speaker 5: say that to say, like I am, like in the
- 17:14Speaker 5: eighties nineties you had to be like the like Michael
- 17:17Speaker 5: Jackson was in like a Coca or Pepsi yeah, super
- 17:20Speaker 5: Bowl commercial or like you know commercial whatever. Right, So
- 17:23Speaker 5: I say this to say, back in the nineties, they
- 17:26Speaker 5: didn't have too many like ancillary opportunities and they weren't
- 17:29Speaker 5: making as much money on shows and stuff like that.
- 17:32Speaker 1: Today we make more money off.
- 17:33Speaker 5: Shows, festivals, brands, et cetera. But it doesn't make as
- 17:37Speaker 5: much on the actual music because the way music is
- 17:40Speaker 5: scaled is like kind of crazy. I don't know, I
- 17:43Speaker 5: just don't know. I'm not going to act like an
- 17:44Speaker 5: expert on it. It's just like super complicated. But pros
- 17:49Speaker 5: and cons are both. You know, it might even out
- 17:52Speaker 5: and balance out, you know, but it's just different now.
- 17:56Speaker 6: In the song O six Dreaming, you talk about your
- 17:59Speaker 6: mom and herr musical dreams and how she tried out
- 18:01Speaker 6: for making a band and American idol, and you sampled
- 18:05Speaker 6: one of her old songs.
- 18:05Speaker 1: How she feel about that when she heard it? Oh,
- 18:08Speaker 1: she liked it. She liked it a lot.
- 18:09Speaker 5: Yeah, she definitely liked it because it's just like a
- 18:12Speaker 5: That's one of my favorite songs because it's obviously it's
- 18:15Speaker 5: close to home, but it's like a story of irony,
- 18:17Speaker 5: of just like and also a story of how like
- 18:21Speaker 5: you can love something so.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Much that it gets past town to your kids, whether
- 18:25Speaker 1: you like it or whether you.
- 18:26Speaker 5: Know you have an influence on that like outwardly or not,
- 18:30Speaker 5: you know. And so I love I love it again
- 18:33Speaker 5: because it's a close to home. It's the story of
- 18:35Speaker 5: irony and it's just hip hop, like yo, I sampled
- 18:37Speaker 5: one of my mom's old songs and telling the story.
- 18:40Speaker 5: I mean, she definitely got her pub and points when
- 18:43Speaker 5: she ain't charged me. I made sure you know, she
- 18:44Speaker 5: eatn't off that, you know what I'm saying, So she
- 18:47Speaker 5: got adjust do for show.
- 18:48Speaker 1: So I say all this to say, yeah, nah, thank you.
- 18:52Speaker 1: I rock with that song.
- 18:53Speaker 6: A lot, and you're kind of glad she ain't make
- 18:54Speaker 6: the band.
- 18:56Speaker 1: I know.
- 18:58Speaker 4: That. On the record you said, I can't remember what
- 19:00Speaker 4: the line was, but you said, you basically said, you
- 19:03Speaker 4: think Puff is a victim of his own carma. He
- 19:05Speaker 4: made him run six miles and your mom didn't make
- 19:09Speaker 4: the band. So do you really do you think that?
- 19:11Speaker 4: Do you think is a victim of his own time?
- 19:12Speaker 4: So you said, look at Puff.
- 19:13Speaker 5: Now, that's one way that it can be interpreted. It
- 19:17Speaker 5: can be interpreted in a bunch of different ways, you know.
- 19:19Speaker 5: It just depends on like what lens or what are
- 19:22Speaker 5: you're listening to it?
- 19:23Speaker 4: But so what do you mean by the bar?
- 19:26Speaker 1: You know what?
- 19:27Speaker 5: To be honest, like that bar was something I was
- 19:29Speaker 5: so like hesitant on saying because like above all else,
- 19:34Speaker 5: not even above all else, like above all else, I'm
- 19:36Speaker 5: a human being, right, but being a human being, I'm
- 19:39Speaker 5: I'm super pro black and like publicly, I don't ever
- 19:42Speaker 5: want to speak bad about another black man, but damn,
- 19:44Speaker 5: this nigga's making it hard, you know what I'm saying,
- 19:47Speaker 5: Like honestly, like paulse oh my god, super Paul crazy yo, Mike.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Hard Yo, you know what I meant by that we
- 20:01Speaker 1: ain't fin to do this, We ain't find to do this.
- 20:04Speaker 1: The pause, the pauses that you have, that's fact. He
- 20:08Speaker 1: got some pauses.
- 20:09Speaker 5: So I say this to say, go back to my man,
- 20:12Speaker 5: Let's leave this ship alone.
- 20:13Speaker 1: Man, answer to this ship. I tried to motherfucking juke
- 20:18Speaker 1: around this ship. You know.
- 20:19Speaker 5: But but yeah, to my point, like I don't ever
- 20:22Speaker 5: want to publicly speak down on another black man, but
- 20:25Speaker 5: like you know, like, fuck, you got a.
- 20:29Speaker 4: Song on the album with Kanye. You're talking about it earlier.
- 20:31Speaker 4: It's called a no Bad Juice. Why would you do that?
- 20:34Speaker 1: No bad Juice?
- 20:35Speaker 5: Yo, You're crazy man, nobody, Yo, you're crazy. It's called
- 20:39Speaker 5: no bad News news.
- 20:41Speaker 4: Yes, you're right, Yeah, it's.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Called no bad News.
- 20:43Speaker 4: I know he's on your mouth Rushmore.
- 20:45Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean bro Bucket.
- 20:49Speaker 5: Yo, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
- 20:57Speaker 1: I mean that's definitely a dream come true. Buckets.
- 21:00Speaker 5: You learned from that session, I mean, yo, yeah, he's
- 21:03Speaker 5: one of the goats. Like he I had a different
- 21:06Speaker 5: hook for that song, and he sent over notes and
- 21:08Speaker 5: like instead of saying this, you know, say this, yeah,
- 21:12Speaker 5: so let me finish.
- 21:13Speaker 1: Okay, bad my bad that came up. You've been You've
- 21:16Speaker 1: been told me like I know, I know, I know
- 21:20Speaker 1: you just do you called it no bad news.
- 21:22Speaker 4: He wanted to call it something else.
- 21:23Speaker 1: No, no that's not the title. There's no back and
- 21:27Speaker 1: forth over the title.
- 21:30Speaker 5: But yeah, basically like yo, this, I mean, point blank
- 21:32Speaker 5: Perioder's a genius, creative genius at the highest level. What
- 21:35Speaker 5: can I say about him creatively that he doesn't already
- 21:39Speaker 5: know and that we as the world doesn't already know,
- 21:42Speaker 5: but definitely a bucket list to work with him, for sure?
- 21:45Speaker 4: What kind of space is he in right now?
- 21:47Speaker 5: I I can't speak for another man, you know what
- 21:50Speaker 5: I'm saying. But in the studio no, no, no, we weren't
- 21:52Speaker 5: all together.
- 21:53Speaker 1: It was all remote. So I don't want to, you know,
- 21:55Speaker 1: speak for another man.
- 21:57Speaker 4: I love the record of All Alone, Thank you. What
- 22:00Speaker 4: do you think could fill that void of loneliness for you?
- 22:04Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 22:05Speaker 5: Because it's funny about that song too, because I actually
- 22:11Speaker 5: had sampled like it was just like Korean jazz artists
- 22:17Speaker 5: who did a cover of that song, but like the
- 22:19Speaker 5: person who owns the master like hates that person. And
- 22:22Speaker 5: so we went back, went back and I found like
- 22:24Speaker 5: the Luther sample, which is.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Like super dope too that he cleared that Luther. Don't
- 22:29Speaker 1: let you curse on this shit. Eva.
- 22:30Speaker 5: That's a whole nother story. But yeah, so I guess
- 22:34Speaker 5: what fills that void My family, you know what I'm saying.
- 22:38Speaker 5: First and foremost, I could have went straight to that,
- 22:40Speaker 5: but being around my family definitely, like you know, helps that.
- 22:44Speaker 5: Enjoying life experiences with my family helps fill that void,
- 22:48Speaker 5: because I mean, being a generational curse breaker is it's
- 22:51Speaker 5: a lonely road, you know what I'm saying, It's not
- 22:53Speaker 5: for the week. Being famous or an artist with a platform,
- 22:59Speaker 5: that that shit is not for the week, Like you said,
- 23:01Speaker 5: you know earlier, like somebody's always going to have something
- 23:04Speaker 5: to say, no matter what, people always going to have
- 23:06Speaker 5: especially in the zeitgeist of this earth. Is like negativity
- 23:09Speaker 5: is just like it connects the most, you know what
- 23:12Speaker 5: I'm saying. Unfortunately, and so yeah, so at times, you
- 23:16Speaker 5: know you can for the long but for me, filling
- 23:18Speaker 5: that void is like you know, being around family, being
- 23:20Speaker 5: around my daughter and enjoying life and making memories with
- 23:23Speaker 5: them and building my own tribe of like community, you
- 23:26Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Because I feel like in hip
- 23:28Speaker 5: hop and Black people in general. Not to speak for
- 23:31Speaker 5: the general consensus, but there needs to be a lot
- 23:34Speaker 5: less competition in a lot more community. I can speak
- 23:37Speaker 5: on that for hip hop for sure, Like I love
- 23:39Speaker 5: the competitiveness.
- 23:40Speaker 1: When we going at it, you know, when everybody going
- 23:42Speaker 1: at it with the bars.
- 23:43Speaker 5: Because that's that's the genesis of hip hop, that's the
- 23:46Speaker 5: heart of hip hop. But as far as just like
- 23:50Speaker 5: you know, sharing knowledge, sharing information, resources, connecting, I feel
- 23:53Speaker 5: like there needs to be a greater sense of community,
- 23:57Speaker 5: you know.
- 23:57Speaker 4: So I wonder about that often sometimes I think it's
- 24:01Speaker 4: it's too many of us to ever have or a
- 24:04Speaker 4: sense of community. Like you'll find your tribe, and amongst
- 24:07Speaker 4: your tribe, you'll have community. But black people aren't monolithic.
- 24:10Speaker 4: You're talking about forty plus million people.
- 24:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
- 24:13Speaker 4: If you can never have community amongst forty plus million.
- 24:16Speaker 1: People, what does monolithic mean?
- 24:18Speaker 4: Means that all of us aren't to say, Okay, yeah,
- 24:20Speaker 4: I thought so.
- 24:21Speaker 5: I just wanted to make sure, but yeah, I mean,
- 24:24Speaker 5: and that's the beauty about being black. Like I think
- 24:27Speaker 5: you ever heard of like our DC. They're like the comedian,
- 24:30Speaker 5: They're like a group of comedians and shite and shit.
- 24:34Speaker 1: But they have this thing called like they have this
- 24:38Speaker 1: con that they have.
- 24:39Speaker 5: And it's like a festival if you would, in Austin, Texas,
- 24:42Speaker 5: and it's basically like a safe place.
- 24:44Speaker 1: For like black nerds that love anime.
- 24:48Speaker 5: But it's like, yo, like that's you wouldn't think if
- 24:50Speaker 5: you're just like not wouldn't think. But I'm just like, yo,
- 24:53Speaker 5: the fact that you found like your niche audience and
- 24:55Speaker 5: made a safe space because it's like thirty thousand people
- 24:58Speaker 5: there and it's all people that love like anime and
- 25:00Speaker 5: shit like that. And so just going back to the
- 25:04Speaker 5: point of just like, you know, community, I don't know.
- 25:07Speaker 1: I think community is important to find it. You don't have.
- 25:10Speaker 5: You're never gonna find one person that agrees with you
- 25:12Speaker 5: on one hundred percent of everything or one person that
- 25:16Speaker 5: likes one hundred percent of everything that you like.
- 25:18Speaker 1: But finding a community of just.
- 25:20Speaker 5: Good people that look like you or don't look like you,
- 25:23Speaker 5: but have the same morals, values and on the same wavelength,
- 25:27Speaker 5: you know, I think that's super important of just finding
- 25:29Speaker 5: creating a community of like minded individuals. And I think
- 25:32Speaker 5: in hip hop specifically, like I guess lyricism or substance
- 25:38Speaker 5: driven artists like that. I can sense that's something that
- 25:42Speaker 5: needs to be like builded upon, you know.
- 25:45Speaker 6: So yeah, I did have a question a long time ago.
- 25:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that.
- 25:49Speaker 6: You you said you like to you know, be with
- 25:51Speaker 6: your your baby, girl, your daughter.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:53Speaker 6: How are you in, Naomi though?
- 25:54Speaker 1: Are we good?
- 25:55Speaker 6: I've just seen a date night, like a couple of
- 25:57Speaker 6: nights ago at Jamie Fox y'all, was there something?
- 26:01Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ye're not we good man?
- 26:03Speaker 6: I know, because y'all don't post each other so much.
- 26:06Speaker 6: People even speculate about that maybe they broke up or
- 26:08Speaker 6: anything that speaks to what you were talking about about
- 26:10Speaker 6: just everything connecting negatively.
- 26:13Speaker 5: Yeah for sure, me honestly, Like I am a super
- 26:16Speaker 5: private person. I am like I try my best as
- 26:19Speaker 5: much as I can be, Like when it comes to
- 26:21Speaker 5: my personal life to be super private, like as much
- 26:24Speaker 5: as I can be, because some stuff you got to
- 26:26Speaker 5: keep for yourself. And when you allow like outside opinion,
- 26:29Speaker 5: when you let and outside opinions can be family members,
- 26:32Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And that can get in
- 26:34Speaker 5: the way of stuff that's important to you.
- 26:36Speaker 1: So, Matt, when you add the world.
- 26:38Speaker 5: To that, that that's a whole nother thing, and so
- 26:41Speaker 5: I try to be as private while speaking on it now.
- 26:43Speaker 5: But I try to be as private as I possibly
- 26:46Speaker 5: can about like my personal life, like you know, even
- 26:48Speaker 5: with my daughter and you know, my relationship and stuff.
- 26:51Speaker 5: Do you feel like do you still talk to the
- 26:54Speaker 5: YBN group I talked to Almighty Ja, I don't really
- 26:56Speaker 5: talk to not Mare like that.
- 26:57Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't know, Like I it's for me.
- 27:03Speaker 5: There's no matter what nahmeyor got to say about me publicly,
- 27:07Speaker 5: there's always a level of respect and appreciation that I
- 27:11Speaker 5: have for now Mir that like nobody can ever get
- 27:13Speaker 5: me to like talk bad about now Mir. You know
- 27:15Speaker 5: what I'm saying, because like Yo, that dude threw me
- 27:17Speaker 5: to OOP and I called it and dunked it. He
- 27:19Speaker 5: she shined that light on me. And I'm like, I'm
- 27:21Speaker 5: not even saying this to be like politically correct. It's
- 27:23Speaker 5: just a God's on the truth. I'm super grateful for him,
- 27:26Speaker 5: Like he changed my life, you know what I'm saying,
- 27:27Speaker 5: for lack of a better word, And so like I said,
- 27:29Speaker 5: he shined that light on me. You know what I'm
- 27:31Speaker 5: saying through me to Oop, You know I called it
- 27:33Speaker 5: win milled it, and I got so much love for him,
- 27:36Speaker 5: Like I talked now mere mom more than I talk
- 27:38Speaker 5: than I'm merry, you know what I'm saying Like that
- 27:39Speaker 5: that's how that is.
- 27:40Speaker 1: So Yeah, I wasna as y'all ever talk.
- 27:44Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, like it'll be like random like birthdays
- 27:47Speaker 5: and you know stuff like the distant relative is like
- 27:51Speaker 5: the best comparison for communication.
- 27:54Speaker 1: Like I remember when I did Coachella like two years ago.
- 27:56Speaker 5: I wanted to bring him out for that cause I'm like, yo,
- 27:58Speaker 5: that'd be crazy just on some stuff. But he ain't
- 28:00Speaker 5: want to do it for whatever reason. I'm saying it
- 28:02Speaker 5: was like any bad blood. But yeah, nah, like I
- 28:06Speaker 5: said when I'm mayor bro, like, I got so much
- 28:08Speaker 5: like love and appreciation for him that again, even if
- 28:12Speaker 5: it ain't the same way, it's nothing that he can
- 28:15Speaker 5: say to ever make me forget like all the love
- 28:17Speaker 5: that he has shown me. You know, I was asking,
- 28:19Speaker 5: how do.
- 28:20Speaker 3: You deal with social media? Are you on social media?
- 28:22Speaker 2: Because between your girl yourself, if she has a bad game,
- 28:26Speaker 2: they blame it on you. Yeah, if you have a
- 28:28Speaker 2: bad album, they blame it on hers. So it's like,
- 28:29Speaker 2: how do you deal with that as far as mentally
- 28:32Speaker 2: and even in your relationship.
- 28:33Speaker 5: Well, it comes down to, like I'm truly like I
- 28:36Speaker 5: don't give a fuck bro what people think because people
- 28:39Speaker 5: I've learned too that internet isn't a real place. Like
- 28:43Speaker 5: it has influence, right, it does have influence, but it's
- 28:48Speaker 5: not a real place, and people are always going to
- 28:50Speaker 5: say something.
- 28:51Speaker 1: People nitpick anything apart.
- 28:54Speaker 5: Like literally, people always find something negative and the most
- 28:57Speaker 5: positive stuff. Charlemagne, you can do a toy drive and
- 29:01Speaker 5: give away one hundred thousand dollars worth of gifts, and
- 29:05Speaker 5: if you got a camera man there, nigga's gone be like, oh,
- 29:07Speaker 5: you just did it for the camera, and let's just
- 29:10Speaker 5: say you did you you overlook the positive part of like, Yo,
- 29:14Speaker 5: this nigga just gave away a hundred thousand dollars worth
- 29:16Speaker 5: of gifts, you know what I'm saying.
- 29:18Speaker 1: And so people always gonna have something to say.
- 29:20Speaker 5: And the sooner you realize that, it's like, bro, y'all
- 29:23Speaker 5: can all suck my dick, you know what I'm saying.
- 29:25Speaker 1: Pause, you know what I'm saying.
- 29:27Speaker 4: Nobody ever brings that up for the negative stuff, right,
- 29:29Speaker 4: Like somebody can just be online flossing, have the money,
- 29:32Speaker 4: phone to the ear, doing it for the camera. But
- 29:34Speaker 4: nobody ever says you just doing that for the camera.
- 29:37Speaker 4: But anything positive you're just doing for the camera. It
- 29:39Speaker 4: makes no sense.
- 29:39Speaker 1: Yeah no, I totally agree with that. Yeah no, it's
- 29:42Speaker 1: all I mean, the world not a state. It doesn't
- 29:45Speaker 1: it with me.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Again, has to be for your girl because it's like
- 29:50Speaker 2: they attack everything and it's like.
- 29:52Speaker 3: Damn, leave it alone.
- 29:54Speaker 1: Yeah for me, Like I can't speak what like she feels.
- 29:58Speaker 5: I ain't gonna speak for her, but I'll be the
- 30:00Speaker 5: worst pr person forever. But I say all this to say,
- 30:05Speaker 5: like for me, Like again, I am an artist and
- 30:07Speaker 5: I'm sensitive about my shit. And with this album, like yo,
- 30:10Speaker 5: it's been like people been fucking loving the album, you
- 30:12Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like it's been across the board,
- 30:15Speaker 5: Like yo, I really fuck with this album. It really
- 30:17Speaker 5: connects with me. But I'm at a place now to
- 30:20Speaker 5: where you don't create. I was I was doing a
- 30:22Speaker 5: stream what I'm Dante this kid, I'm Dante Black streamer,
- 30:26Speaker 5: super dope, super funny, and like I was telling him,
- 30:29Speaker 5: like bro, like even with these streamers and not to
- 30:32Speaker 5: say like I'm all knowing and shit, we figuring this
- 30:35Speaker 5: shit out day by day, but it's like day their
- 30:37Speaker 5: next move is based on what the fucking chat is saying.
- 30:41Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. They're like, they're what they say.
- 30:44Speaker 5: Their whole mood is based on what the chat is saying.
- 30:46Speaker 5: I'm like, I get it, that's your job, but like,
- 30:48Speaker 5: you can't live like that.
- 30:50Speaker 4: Not just the streamers though in general. Nah, they look
- 30:54Speaker 4: at them comments and YouTube pages and it will influence
- 30:57Speaker 4: every single thing they do. I think the most power
- 30:59Speaker 4: that you can get yourself in this era is to
- 31:02Speaker 4: disconnect from all of that and have an opinion or
- 31:04Speaker 4: create art and not even worry about what anybody on
- 31:07Speaker 4: social media is gonna say.
- 31:08Speaker 5: Nah, because they're always going to say something. It's always
- 31:11Speaker 5: going to be negative. And so what I've learned is,
- 31:13Speaker 5: let's say, even back to an album, like if people,
- 31:16Speaker 5: I've learned to like not give a fuck because let's
- 31:18Speaker 5: say every everybody loves this out like, like again, it's
- 31:22Speaker 5: been like really positive feedback on this album with nah,
- 31:25Speaker 5: thank you appreciate it. But let's say you drop an
- 31:28Speaker 5: album and everybody's like, this is the greatest shit ever.
- 31:31Speaker 5: This is a classic you can let that get to
- 31:33Speaker 5: your head and create an ego of like, oh I
- 31:35Speaker 5: am as great as they say I am. Then your
- 31:39Speaker 5: next album people might not love it and they're like, oh,
- 31:42Speaker 5: this is shit, and it can it can fuck with
- 31:46Speaker 5: your confidence, like damn, maybe I am shit like they
- 31:49Speaker 5: say I am.
- 31:50Speaker 1: And so when you know.
- 31:51Speaker 5: Who you are, nobody can tell you who you are
- 31:53Speaker 5: from my experience, And so that's why it comes down to, like,
- 31:56Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck what people think, whether it's
- 31:58Speaker 5: great or bad, you know what I'm saying, And like, yo,
- 32:01Speaker 5: like I can sleep well at night, you know what
- 32:03Speaker 5: I'm saying. I know I put a bunch of work
- 32:05Speaker 5: in in the music, and I can live with that,
- 32:09Speaker 5: you know, no matter what the outcome is. Now it
- 32:11Speaker 5: gets tricky when like, if you be honest with yourself,
- 32:13Speaker 5: you're like, damn, I could have put more time and
- 32:15Speaker 5: effort into this. I could have put more thought and
- 32:17Speaker 5: energy into this, And then people don't like it, and
- 32:19Speaker 5: then it's like.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, the niggas might be saying some shit, you
- 32:23Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
- 32:24Speaker 5: But if you like truly put you all into it,
- 32:26Speaker 5: your heart into it, and like people are like yo,
- 32:27Speaker 5: this ship.
- 32:28Speaker 1: You know, it's like, yo, fuck, I'm like sucker dick.
- 32:30Speaker 1: I'll try next time, you.
- 32:31Speaker 4: Know, I'll try it next time. Goddamn.
- 32:34Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Oh my god, I have.
- 32:38Speaker 5: By the way, I've been hanging with my little brother
- 32:40Speaker 5: and them. They some young niggas, they like twenty and
- 32:43Speaker 5: so my pause radar has been like through the roof,
- 32:47Speaker 5: meaning like I pick up the paw. I mean, I'll
- 32:50Speaker 5: usually pause myself first, and others pause. No, no, ain't not,
- 32:57Speaker 5: Ain't nothing homosexual about nothing on this.
- 33:00Speaker 1: If that's somebody's prerogative, that's all them.
- 33:02Speaker 5: But AnyWho, what would you finish it is? Hey, you
- 33:10Speaker 5: love your truth, brother, this is a safe place, and
- 33:14Speaker 5: we have we gotta find out an abundance of love
- 33:17Speaker 5: and joy for you no matter.
- 33:18Speaker 1: You know what you like to do in your free time.
- 33:20Speaker 4: When you write because of the mother of your child, Yeah,
- 33:23Speaker 4: question your lyrics for example, like when I hear prays
- 33:26Speaker 4: pray about Nailmi.
- 33:29Speaker 5: I try to make my music as from my heart
- 33:34Speaker 5: and relatable as possible. And also I answer that with
- 33:39Speaker 5: I just let the music speak for itself.
- 33:42Speaker 4: A lot of insecurity you're showing on that record.
- 33:44Speaker 5: I just I let the because I'm so and also
- 33:46Speaker 5: too because I'm so vulnerable in my music. That's why
- 33:50Speaker 5: I don't do too many interviews liked, Like I said, you.
- 33:53Speaker 1: Know this is my like third time on here.
- 33:55Speaker 5: You know, we have a report now to where I
- 33:57Speaker 5: can't come with y'all with it. Who I can, but like,
- 34:00Speaker 5: I'm not gonna come with y'all. Not to say there's
- 34:01Speaker 5: anything wrong with people that do this, but I'm not
- 34:03Speaker 5: gonna come with y'all with a list of like shit
- 34:05Speaker 5: to not talk about, you know what I'm saying.
- 34:07Speaker 1: So I say all this when you got.
- 34:08Speaker 4: A boar that says you're never gonna be in interviews
- 34:10Speaker 4: and not be authentic.
- 34:11Speaker 1: That is true, that's a bar.
- 34:14Speaker 5: But so I say this to say because I am
- 34:18Speaker 5: to be authentic, right, because I am so vulnerable and
- 34:20Speaker 5: personal in my music.
- 34:22Speaker 1: It's some stuff I'd rather not go into detail.
- 34:24Speaker 5: And over explain it, you know, because it kind of
- 34:26Speaker 5: is like a magician revealing the magic, you know, the trick.
- 34:30Speaker 4: So, yeah, do you feel like sometimes being like the
- 34:33Speaker 4: boyfriend overshadows being the boyfriend of her overshadows you being cord.
- 34:38Speaker 5: No, Because I was Corday first, and like I'm I'm
- 34:42Speaker 5: very confident like in myself, Like as a I don't
- 34:45Speaker 5: really like to pop my shit, but like I'm a
- 34:47Speaker 5: super successful, like.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Young black man.
- 34:50Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm wealthy, I'm blessed,
- 34:53Speaker 5: I do it and above all else, I'm a man
- 34:54Speaker 5: of God and I'm a prif not prideful, but I
- 34:57Speaker 5: am a very a apologetic black man, you know what
- 35:02Speaker 5: I'm saying. And I say all that to say, you know,
- 35:06Speaker 5: there is it all right? Oh, I got some more
- 35:09Speaker 5: questions we hear, Baby, don't give me the thirty minute one.
- 35:15Speaker 4: Never see it with you. You say you might see
- 35:18Speaker 4: me stressing over blessings that I prayed for. Yeah, and
- 35:21Speaker 4: I want to talk about that line because I overstand it. Yeah,
- 35:24Speaker 4: expound on that for people.
- 35:26Speaker 5: Like, bro, Like this shit is stressful, Bro, you know
- 35:28Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like people can come into an interviews
- 35:35Speaker 5: and be stressed out based on the questions that they're getting.
- 35:37Speaker 1: Like you just asked me about.
- 35:39Speaker 5: Two super controversial top Not to say that's a bad thing,
- 35:42Speaker 5: but like one can do that as like fucking oh
- 35:44Speaker 5: my god, stressful.
- 35:45Speaker 1: But I pray let's leave it alone. My bad for
- 35:48Speaker 1: bringing up.
- 35:49Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna leave that in
- 35:52Speaker 5: this seven minute mark. But I say all this to
- 35:55Speaker 5: say of like, yeah, you might a nigga do be
- 35:57Speaker 5: stressing over shit? I pray for you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 36:00Speaker 5: I pray for you know.
- 36:01Speaker 1: The the quote meek men, not to bring them back,
- 36:03Speaker 1: you know.
- 36:04Speaker 5: I pray for times like this and if you really
- 36:07Speaker 5: are killing you really love this ship and you really
- 36:09Speaker 5: dedicated to this craft. It's not for the week. It's
- 36:11Speaker 5: not easy, bro, It's not easy. It's not for the week.
- 36:14Speaker 5: It's not easy. I over understand that I'm super blessed.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Bro.
- 36:17Speaker 5: Like some days when I'm stressed out, Bro, I do
- 36:21Speaker 5: retail therapy and I go shopping. I know that's a
- 36:23Speaker 5: lot of things that people can't do, you know what
- 36:25Speaker 5: I'm saying.
- 36:26Speaker 2: But what's the most difficult thing you have to deal with?
- 36:29Speaker 2: Because people look at your life and be.
- 36:31Speaker 1: Like you popping.
- 36:32Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got a great career, Yeah, family.
- 36:36Speaker 1: You got kid, I'm handsome.
- 36:39Speaker 6: He's like, never forget that, y'all gay say that.
- 36:44Speaker 1: Be tall and ship. You know, super handsome. We get it,
- 36:49Speaker 1: we get it.
- 36:51Speaker 5: I was waiting for somebody to say, but you have the.
- 36:56Speaker 4: Radio. I'm not really.
- 37:00Speaker 1: Uh uh what ilse Finna say? Thats what bothers you
- 37:04Speaker 1: the most, honestly, it can.
- 37:07Speaker 5: It's the thing that's like whatever is currently presently in
- 37:11Speaker 5: front of me, like at that time.
- 37:13Speaker 1: It's not like, oh my god, this dinkle bird.
- 37:18Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, y'all might be too old
- 37:19Speaker 5: for that reference. But it's not like one constant thing
- 37:23Speaker 5: or one enemy. Not. When I say enemy, I don't
- 37:25Speaker 5: mean like person, I mean like thing.
- 37:28Speaker 4: I can't even.
- 37:30Speaker 1: Okay, it's a fairly odd parents reference.
- 37:34Speaker 5: It's this cartoon, but that was like the Nigga Timmy's
- 37:37Speaker 5: Turner's dad like arch nemesis. So it's like, but that
- 37:40Speaker 5: was the same nemesis every episode. So my bad, I
- 37:43Speaker 5: didn't read the run. No, no, no, not for real.
- 37:55Speaker 5: So I say this to say, it's never one constant enemy.
- 37:57Speaker 5: It's always something. It'd be some different shit every day,
- 38:02Speaker 5: like literally, you know what I'm saying, Like some different
- 38:04Speaker 5: shit every day. And so you have to conquer that,
- 38:07Speaker 5: and you have to be bigger than your your issues.
- 38:09Speaker 5: You have to be solution based and I try. And
- 38:12Speaker 5: one thing I've learned to be is like, solution based.
- 38:15Speaker 5: Let's make the most out of any given situation. And
- 38:17Speaker 5: that's why I am as successful as I am and
- 38:20Speaker 5: why I'm going to get to where I want and
- 38:22Speaker 5: need to.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Be, you know, in life. And so yeah, it's some
- 38:26Speaker 1: different shit literally fucking every day.
- 38:27Speaker 5: And you just gotta be. And that's for anybody in life.
- 38:30Speaker 5: I know it's a million motherfuckers that may watch this,
- 38:33Speaker 5: so listen to this. It be some different shit every day,
- 38:35Speaker 5: no matter what stage of life that you on, you
- 38:38Speaker 5: just gotta be solution based and like you know, yeah,
- 38:41Speaker 5: just try to be as solution based as possible.
- 38:43Speaker 4: And it causes levels of anxiety in you, right because
- 38:46Speaker 4: you know it's a blessing from God. Yeah, you feel
- 38:49Speaker 4: like you're not appreciating it. Yeah, and you feel like, damn,
- 38:51Speaker 4: God gonna take it away from me because I don't appreciate.
- 38:53Speaker 4: It's not that I don't appreciate, it is this stress
- 38:56Speaker 4: that comes with it.
- 38:57Speaker 1: Nah, that's a fact. I mean Heavy is the head, bro,
- 39:00Speaker 1: he is the head. And yeah, Heavy is the head.
- 39:03Speaker 1: And so you gotta you know, if you ask for.
- 39:06Speaker 5: Well, great, you know, not the I was trying to
- 39:09Speaker 5: not the quote fucking stan Lee but you know, with
- 39:11Speaker 5: great power and platform come you know, great responsibility. And
- 39:14Speaker 5: so when you ask for massive things, you got to
- 39:16Speaker 5: be pause. You gotta be ready to deal what comes
- 39:20Speaker 5: with it. You know what I'm saying, be ready for
- 39:22Speaker 5: the responsibility of it.
- 39:23Speaker 1: So like.
- 39:25Speaker 4: Meaning that you can't have Quote's success, Yeah, without having
- 39:29Speaker 4: Cod's problems exactly.
- 39:31Speaker 1: And then he yeah, exactly.
- 39:33Speaker 2: Now you did post a picture of yourself. Yeah, you
- 39:36Speaker 2: put hashtag free Luigi. Yeah, people were mad mad at
- 39:39Speaker 2: you about that.
- 39:40Speaker 1: They are they assume the free Lui people. Who is
- 39:43Speaker 1: this target demographic of people? Because I didn't know that you.
- 39:50Speaker 2: Were mad at free Luigi because you know Luigi if
- 39:53Speaker 2: it's the same Luigi.
- 39:54Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know.
- 39:55Speaker 2: He's the gentleman that killed the CEO of United Healthcare.
- 39:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't know my nigga Luigi Ario brother was.
- 40:00Speaker 4: Locked up man.
- 40:02Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, okay, but uh AnyWho, But you know, I'm
- 40:09Speaker 5: just in a space now. Another big thing that I've like,
- 40:11Speaker 5: the like one crossroad I've gotten passed is like being
- 40:15Speaker 5: super I feel like because.
- 40:21Speaker 1: I said, I've done.
- 40:22Speaker 5: A lot of things that I wanted to do thus
- 40:24Speaker 5: far right, and I know it's so much more that
- 40:25Speaker 5: I gotta do.
- 40:26Speaker 1: I'm still on this journey.
- 40:27Speaker 5: If you look at all my albums, they all represent
- 40:29Speaker 5: a journey, from the Lost Boy to the crossroads. It's
- 40:33Speaker 5: all if you look at it, it's all a journey,
- 40:34Speaker 5: because that's kind of what life is.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Right. So, on this particular moment in my.
- 40:37Speaker 5: Journey, I felt as though in the past I've been
- 40:40Speaker 5: a little too like scared to be canceled for lack
- 40:43Speaker 5: of a better word, or fearful to say what I
- 40:45Speaker 5: really feel about certain shit, and because of like protecting
- 40:51Speaker 5: what I've built, you know what I'm saying, Like when
- 40:53Speaker 5: you build and saved up millions of dollars or like
- 40:56Speaker 5: you've you've built up a bunch of shit, right that
- 40:58Speaker 5: our brand or whatever the case, maybe a company business,
- 41:02Speaker 5: like you want to protect that, and sometimes protecting that causes.
- 41:05Speaker 1: Fear and you to move through fear.
- 41:07Speaker 5: So I've kind of entered into this space now of
- 41:10Speaker 5: like I'm a creative first, I'm an artist, ferst, and
- 41:13Speaker 5: I gotta just say what's on my mind. Like, you know,
- 41:16Speaker 5: don't be an idiot, you know what I'm saying, Don't
- 41:18Speaker 5: don't be dumb, you know, but like yo, don't be
- 41:21Speaker 5: as like politically correct and like scared to offend anybody
- 41:24Speaker 5: because you're just going to be bland if you're just like, oh,
- 41:26Speaker 5: I don't want to offend this person, or I don't
- 41:28Speaker 5: want to offend this person. I don't want to make
- 41:30Speaker 5: this person mad, you know what I'm saying to where
- 41:32Speaker 5: like I've been doing that hella like and my creative
- 41:36Speaker 5: and so I want to do that shit like yeah,
- 41:38Speaker 5: I just thought that shit was funny.
- 41:39Speaker 1: I mean, bro, you know he I don't want to
- 41:42Speaker 1: speak on that too much to no, no, no, not
- 41:46Speaker 1: that was funny. But I don't think he is a monster.
- 41:51Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm gonna say this, this is
- 41:53Speaker 5: this is gonna be my politically correct answer, but it's
- 41:55Speaker 5: also my authentic true self. So this is the I'm
- 41:58Speaker 5: not gonna say this is a medium, but authentically me
- 42:00Speaker 5: as an individual. I am not well researched enough on
- 42:05Speaker 5: the montrocities of the health care industry and what.
- 42:09Speaker 1: The guy that got killed had to do with it.
- 42:11Speaker 5: I just know that the American healthcare industry is fucked up.
- 42:15Speaker 5: So I don't want to speak on the assassination of
- 42:17Speaker 5: that particular individual without doing my proper research on what
- 42:22Speaker 5: that particular individual had to do with the overall scope
- 42:26Speaker 5: like the fucked up well you picked the side, you know,
- 42:30Speaker 5: free that nigga was.
- 42:34Speaker 4: Do you feel guilty on vacation?
- 42:36Speaker 5: We'll explain that, yeah, because yeah I do because not. Yeah,
- 42:41Speaker 5: it's just like you there and you're kind of thinking like, Okay,
- 42:43Speaker 5: what could I be doing? What else could I be doing?
- 42:45Speaker 5: Like working versus like you know, you know, just chilling.
- 42:50Speaker 5: But sometimes you gotta as an artist to you gotta
- 42:52Speaker 5: live life to have shit to talk about it. Else
- 42:54Speaker 5: you're just gonna talk about I'm in a studio all
- 42:56Speaker 5: day working nigga, grinding bars is life, you know what
- 42:59Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, you got to live life to talk
- 43:01Speaker 5: about it. And so yeah, man, like again, this is
- 43:05Speaker 5: a This whole entertainment business is like a journey.
- 43:09Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 43:09Speaker 5: Like when you first started to where you're at has
- 43:12Speaker 5: been a level up, a journey, you know what I'm saying.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Same to all of y'all.
- 43:15Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, And so I'm recognizing and
- 43:19Speaker 5: sometime that difficult point. It's all these self help books
- 43:22Speaker 5: about how to get from zero to one hundred, but
- 43:26Speaker 5: you kind of got to figure out yourself when you
- 43:28Speaker 5: reach that first major milestone, a big goal about how
- 43:32Speaker 5: to get to that next level. That's some shit you
- 43:34Speaker 5: got to figure out, like through trial and error, through mentorship,
- 43:38Speaker 5: through community, or through you know, fucking up and so like,
- 43:41Speaker 5: like I said, like I'm super blessed, bro, I can
- 43:43Speaker 5: acknowledge the fact that I'm super blessed.
- 43:45Speaker 1: I thank God every day literally, but I still have
- 43:48Speaker 1: a lot more to do.
- 43:49Speaker 5: And I know the work that that takes, the dedication
- 43:51Speaker 5: that that takes, and the thick skin that that takes.
- 43:54Speaker 1: Pauls.
- 43:54Speaker 4: A good book that you can get is the big
- 43:56Speaker 4: Leap Okay, Conker, you're hitting Fear and Take Life to
- 43:59Speaker 4: the Next Level by a Hendrix that's really his name, Okay,
- 44:03Speaker 4: And it's a fantastic book. It's it's for people who
- 44:06Speaker 4: are at one hundred who are looking to either stay
- 44:09Speaker 4: there or get to that that next level.
- 44:12Speaker 5: Well, see, that's why mentors are important, because I just said,
- 44:15Speaker 5: there isn't a book that existed.
- 44:16Speaker 4: And you know, it's funny. Quest Love put me onto
- 44:19Speaker 4: that book a couple of years ago.
- 44:20Speaker 1: You know it's funny.
- 44:21Speaker 5: I was watching y'all interview with nip a couple of
- 44:24Speaker 5: weeks ago, and yeah, r ip nip, and that had
- 44:30Speaker 5: me pick up the way of this superior man, you
- 44:32Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So I've been reading that and
- 44:35Speaker 5: why I bought the book. I read like four pages
- 44:37Speaker 5: of it, don't you know whatever audio Yeah, yeah, Now
- 44:40Speaker 5: I enjoyed reading because I like highlighting it to where
- 44:43Speaker 5: like I like to go back to it and shit.
- 44:44Speaker 1: But yeah no, so yeah, each one teach one, So
- 44:47Speaker 1: thank you for that. I definitely picked that up.
- 44:49Speaker 4: Another line, I'll never see it. You said you would
- 44:51Speaker 4: never see me partying with the Michael Rubens.
- 44:53Speaker 1: Yeah, why is that? So look, let me say this, right,
- 44:57Speaker 1: he has this.
- 44:58Speaker 5: It's crazy because he has this pro graham called Reform
- 45:01Speaker 5: that actually got that that does amazing work, honestly, and
- 45:04Speaker 5: it got a bunch of people out. It actually got
- 45:07Speaker 5: like some of my closest friends out of jail, like
- 45:09Speaker 5: straight up out of prison.
- 45:10Speaker 1: Like got them on a pill. Like they do amazing work.
- 45:13Speaker 5: Right, So I will want to start off by saying that,
- 45:16Speaker 5: But I mean, bro, it's just going back to that
- 45:19Speaker 5: place of me being a free creative in the studio.
- 45:24Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, this ship just seem a little off,
- 45:26Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But you know it's crazy.
- 45:28Speaker 5: Actually I've never met that nigga before before I said
- 45:30Speaker 5: that line one.
- 45:34Speaker 1: You know what I mean? God, why are you picking me? Man? Damn?
- 45:45Speaker 1: Oh my god? AnyWho you never met him before?
- 45:47Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 45:48Speaker 5: Yeah, so I never when I said that line in
- 45:50Speaker 5: the like again, so going back to you fucking up
- 45:52Speaker 5: my training throw.
- 45:56Speaker 1: Damn, it is impossible for me to.
- 45:59Speaker 5: So, so going back to my point earlier of like,
- 46:03Speaker 5: I just want to be a free creative you know
- 46:05Speaker 5: what I'm saying and say what I feel. If I
- 46:06Speaker 5: think something that includes humor, you know what I'm saying.
- 46:09Speaker 5: Some of my favorite rappers had like social commentary through
- 46:12Speaker 5: humor and so like, I've always done that since the
- 46:15Speaker 5: very beginning, but when I got lit and shit to lose,
- 46:17Speaker 5: I stopped doing it as much because I didn't want
- 46:19Speaker 5: to burn bridges, you know what I'm saying. And so
- 46:20Speaker 5: I say this to say if we all it's just
- 46:22Speaker 5: me fucking joking. I see some shit online behind the
- 46:24Speaker 5: back hugs, I'm like, Yo, that shit is crazy, nigga
- 46:27Speaker 5: want see me doing that? And so funny enough, and
- 46:30Speaker 5: again acknowledging I did want to acknowledge he has this
- 46:33Speaker 5: program called Reform that does amazing thing.
- 46:35Speaker 1: Right, So when I said that line, I have never
- 46:36Speaker 1: met this nigga, Damn my life.
- 46:38Speaker 5: One week after that song come out, I meet this
- 46:41Speaker 5: nigga and he's hella cool at a commander's game.
- 46:47Speaker 1: Huh, he hugged you.
- 46:48Speaker 4: I ain't stay behind. I just said, did he hug you?
- 46:51Speaker 1: Man?
- 46:52Speaker 5: Look that I said what I said, idapped him up.
- 46:54Speaker 5: He Hell, He's actually hella fucking cool. And like I said,
- 46:57Speaker 5: the work he does with Reform is amazing, and so
- 47:01Speaker 5: I think as an artist, I can acknowledge that he
- 47:03Speaker 5: does amazing his his his program charity Reform, and I'm
- 47:09Speaker 5: sure he does a bunch of other amazing ship for
- 47:11Speaker 5: community is great.
- 47:12Speaker 1: But then also, yo, nigga, that shit is funny. You
- 47:14Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just no, fuck no.
- 47:18Speaker 4: And he's put a lot of money in black black
- 47:20Speaker 4: people's pockets. I just had I had an interesting conversation
- 47:23Speaker 4: with a little baby recently and he was talking about that,
- 47:26Speaker 4: and I think that, you know, sometimes people just really
- 47:29Speaker 4: go with the information.
- 47:30Speaker 5: Is yeah, no exactly, And he's he's one who who
- 47:34Speaker 5: shit is sent from even like, I only met this
- 47:36Speaker 5: dude one time and he was like, like I again,
- 47:38Speaker 5: I felt kind of bad after meeting because you know,
- 47:40Speaker 5: when you see ship online, he's just like, I'm making
- 47:42Speaker 5: fun of it. But then when you actually meet the person,
- 47:44Speaker 5: they become a real person and so which is also
- 47:48Speaker 5: what fans think of fucking artists. So you know what
- 47:50Speaker 5: I'm saying, It's like the duality of it. So uh not,
- 47:52Speaker 5: I met him and he became a real person. But
- 47:54Speaker 5: like when I met him, I'm like, oh, wow, you're
- 47:55Speaker 5: like you're really You're the complete opposite of what I
- 47:58Speaker 5: thought you were, like your cool? Yeah yeah yeah, So
- 48:02Speaker 5: so you would go to one of his parties?
- 48:04Speaker 1: No, I can't. Now, I still I can't.
- 48:06Speaker 4: I still can't be advice Naomi, but not you, then
- 48:09Speaker 4: she I don't know.
- 48:15Speaker 6: I don't know if I commit any crimes I'm committing
- 48:17Speaker 6: with this talk about it.
- 48:19Speaker 1: He might rap about it, but he ain't gonna talk
- 48:21Speaker 1: about it. Yeah that's funny. That's worse now rapping about
- 48:25Speaker 1: it and talking about it.
- 48:29Speaker 7: No, I didn't know, Okay, yeah, no, we have to
- 48:33Speaker 7: he was dating a white woman.
- 48:34Speaker 1: No, never in life, never in life. But not to
- 48:39Speaker 1: say there's anything wrong.
- 48:41Speaker 4: Ship.
- 48:41Speaker 5: I'm just saying I wouldn't do that, you know whatever.
- 48:44Speaker 5: But what what niggas do with, you know, their time
- 48:46Speaker 5: is what they do.
- 48:47Speaker 4: I remember when I made some comments up here about NAILM.
- 48:51Speaker 4: He did, yeah what.
- 48:56Speaker 1: I don't know, but I was getting his number because he.
- 48:58Speaker 4: Wanted her to play for her national team or something
- 49:00Speaker 4: like that. It was something like that, like.
- 49:05Speaker 6: He turned into ice Kid.
- 49:08Speaker 5: I would if he's just missing form, he just doesn't
- 49:11Speaker 5: have all the information.
- 49:12Speaker 1: We don't.
- 49:12Speaker 5: Let's not pull it up. Okay, let's not pull it up.
- 49:14Speaker 5: I know this is crazy. What fucking this is the same.
- 49:21Speaker 4: Man. Sorry, there's a lot of great history that has
- 49:24Speaker 4: happened on that.
- 49:25Speaker 5: Yeah, nigga, I had to take He's on this ship
- 49:29Speaker 5: and y'all still using this ship.
- 49:30Speaker 1: Man, y'all should be a fucking shame to y'allself. I know, y'all,
- 49:33Speaker 1: I got yeah, I know ship Yeah yeah yeah.
- 49:36Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah classic like an MP.
- 49:40Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, okay, man, But so I had this idea.
- 49:45Speaker 5: So I wasn't aware of that, but he probably just
- 49:48Speaker 5: was missing formed. But I had this idea of having
- 49:51Speaker 5: him in a music video, and yeah that I had
- 49:55Speaker 5: this idea.
- 49:55Speaker 1: Of me having him in the music like yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 49:58Speaker 1: so that's what.
- 49:58Speaker 5: But man, look, you know I got to see what
- 50:02Speaker 5: he said, but you know, yeah, but I I agree
- 50:06Speaker 5: with a lot of ship.
- 50:07Speaker 1: You know that I said, like, oh.
- 50:10Speaker 4: Yeah, he was talking about representing representing Japan in the Olympics.
- 50:13Speaker 4: That's what we want to hear it?
- 50:15Speaker 1: God, he want the.
- 50:17Speaker 5: Producers just texting to me, these niggas are messy, just like, yeah,
- 50:23Speaker 5: see how play?
- 50:24Speaker 1: I am right.
- 50:25Speaker 5: I not only took the laptop, I switched market.
- 50:32Speaker 4: Who is phoeney put me onto What that means?
- 50:34Speaker 5: Oh that's shy feeny, that's oh yeah, yeah.
- 50:37Speaker 1: Got yeah.
- 50:38Speaker 4: Gott Produces sent him that one.
- 50:40Speaker 1: Yeah, producer was probably a white man. Huh. That would
- 50:46Speaker 1: be a damn shame.
- 50:48Speaker 4: You think doctor would come up here so much if
- 50:50Speaker 4: we had white producers.
- 50:51Speaker 1: I got white camera.
- 50:52Speaker 4: Man, he's not white.
- 50:53Speaker 1: I'm joking. I'm sorry. He is white.
- 50:55Speaker 4: He's not, but he italianis white. That's a different cause
- 50:59Speaker 4: it's like off white.
- 50:59Speaker 1: My yeah, yeah, not that it matters, not that you
- 51:07Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We love we all I.
- 51:13Speaker 5: Got Look man, I got I got a lot of
- 51:15Speaker 5: white cord fans, and I love all of them.
- 51:17Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got a lot of
- 51:18Speaker 1: love for you know, everybody on earth.
- 51:21Speaker 4: You know, I do have one last question. God, yeah,
- 51:27Speaker 4: I'm just fantastic. This is just a personal let's leave
- 51:30Speaker 4: on that not you go ahead as a man. What
- 51:33Speaker 4: did you do to help your lady get through her postpartum?
- 51:37Speaker 1: Hmmm? Oh my god.
- 51:41Speaker 4: Men, you don't got to get a personal with her.
- 51:43Speaker 4: Just what the men? What's your men doing? I got
- 51:45Speaker 4: four daughters. What's your men do in that situation? Especially
- 51:48Speaker 4: young men that are quarter life crisis?
- 51:50Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I will say, I don't know. I want.
- 51:54Speaker 5: I don't want to act like I'm the perfect person
- 51:56Speaker 5: and be given advice. So I'm the perfect example of
- 51:59Speaker 5: what to do. It's just be as present as you
- 52:03Speaker 5: can and be as understanding as you can, and.
- 52:09Speaker 1: Be a man nigga. You know what I'm saying.
- 52:12Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, be understanding, be as understanding and yeah,
- 52:18Speaker 5: and be as present as you possibly can.
- 52:20Speaker 3: You know, Well, let's listen to something that what you
- 52:22Speaker 3: would help out?
- 52:23Speaker 1: Man, I don't know, manturday more.
- 52:27Speaker 4: Wave, let's do that.
- 52:27Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is crazy wave. Yeah.
- 52:32Speaker 4: No, people misunderstood that line. I think, what is that
- 52:35Speaker 4: a misunderstand I'm dealing with a lot of problems. I
- 52:38Speaker 4: don't know if y' all can relate feeling like road wave.
- 52:40Speaker 4: I got a lot on my plate saying a lot
- 52:44Speaker 4: of responsibilities.
- 52:46Speaker 1: Yo yo, what color air forces this?
- 52:55Speaker 5: I mean, but that goes back to like my like
- 52:59Speaker 5: freedom as and not like me expressing like my sense
- 53:01Speaker 5: of human and my freedom.
- 53:03Speaker 1: As like this is hip.
- 53:05Speaker 5: Yeah it is so, I say to say, that goes
- 53:07Speaker 5: back to the point I made earlier, like me just
- 53:09Speaker 5: being as free as I possibly can versus me like
- 53:12Speaker 5: worrying about what people think. But I mean, bro makes
- 53:15Speaker 5: dope music obvious, you know what I'm saying, great artists.
- 53:17Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, he was saying like he just always
- 53:19Speaker 6: stressed out about some ship.
- 53:21Speaker 1: I think the bar is like my I don't want
- 53:24Speaker 1: to do this to you.
- 53:24Speaker 4: Ja.
- 53:25Speaker 1: It's like yeah, it's like it's it's there, It's there,
- 53:28Speaker 1: very is there, and I.
- 53:29Speaker 2: Leave now please my time time.
- 53:33Speaker 1: He's so funny there. All jo side is dope.
- 53:38Speaker 4: I've always thought was dope. One of the ones when
- 53:42Speaker 4: we was having this conversation recently was playing she was
- 53:46Speaker 4: doing path played he was supposed to come.
- 53:47Speaker 2: That he was I think he was like a buffer.
- 53:49Speaker 2: He's supposed to come, and were talking about it before
- 53:50Speaker 2: he got here, but he canceled on it.
- 53:51Speaker 4: And I was just talking about like like the new
- 53:53Speaker 4: big three. I don't see Big three, but like this
- 53:55Speaker 4: new era of artists. Yeah, because you know Kendrick and
- 53:59Speaker 4: Cole and Drake, the last generation. Yeah, for this generation,
- 54:02Speaker 4: I feel like you got to put your your name
- 54:04Speaker 4: in there personally.
- 54:05Speaker 5: Nah, yeah, it's there for sure. I appreciate that absolutely.
- 54:08Speaker 5: That doesn't warrant all the ship he's done before. But
- 54:11Speaker 5: now I'm fucking with you. Thank you, bro, and I'm glad, Yo,
- 54:14Speaker 5: this is this is great.
- 54:15Speaker 1: I had honestly, despite the jokes, I had a good
- 54:19Speaker 1: time on here. So thank you all for having me.
- 54:21Speaker 4: Man.
- 54:22Speaker 1: No, no, I'm gonna come back.
- 54:23Speaker 2: Man, I'm always a roadway's plate talking about gay years.
- 54:26Speaker 3: He's like, nah, I'm good.
- 54:27Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 54:28Speaker 4: The crossroads out now, yeah, I know.
- 54:30Speaker 3: Let's get it to the joint right now.
- 54:31Speaker 1: It's the breakfast Club.
- 54:32Speaker 3: Good morning, score there, y'all.
- 54:33Speaker 1: Good morning, y'all. Wake that ass up in the morning.
- 54:37Speaker 1: Breakfast Club