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Miller and Condon 8-1 Hour 1 · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon, the
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Iowa Sports Radio Network talking sports with you for the
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next 6 hours. I'll start things off Trent's on
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vacation final day so Ken Miller until 2 here today coming up on
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the program Bama Bob will join me in about till 5 minutes or
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so. We'll we didn't get through the
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list of topics we wanted to yesterday, so we'll spend 10
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minutes or so getting do that today.
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Still some SEC to look at. I want to make bring Notre Dame
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into the conversation. We spent I think 4 days this
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week talking about the Big 12, the Group of Five, the Big 10,
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the ACC and just ran out of time when it came to the SEC and
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Notre Dame. So we'll do that to finish
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things off here in a few minutes at 1225 Tom Cakert
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hawkeyereport.com will join me. Well, the latest on the Hawks
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news Kirk Fair. It says birthday, by the way, a
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milestone birthday 70 today. So HBD to the HC at the
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University of So Tom Cakert coming up at 1:25.
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Then Mitch Holtis will join us. Drew tranquil.
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He just saw it was carted off the field according to X very
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talented player for the chief. So tranquil, what does this mean
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for? Well, I don't know if they'll be
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an update on tranquil status at that at 12:45 when I talked to
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Mitch. I find it somewhat unlikely that
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they'll be anything unless there's nothing there.
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And then perhaps we'll the we'll learn some news on the
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linebacker 102 Mike Palm. Mike Palm will join me from
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Circus Sports. We'll go over a variety of
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topics with Mike and then Eugene Repay from the Des Moines
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Register will come aboard here at about till 1:30 or
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thereabouts. Real quick before we get to
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Bama, Bob, I want to talk a little bit about the trade
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deadline came and went. I'll say this about it.
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It was a spectacular, too big of a word.
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I mean, the action at the trade deadline, the Major League
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Baseball, I don't remember it being as active.
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Maybe it's with the pending lockout and it's oh, it sure
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seems like that's a, I hate to say it, a foregone conclusion
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that that baseball is kind of tentative at this point in 2027.
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By the way, the Cubs and Wrigley Field got awarded the 2027 All
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Star game Today might be a little bit redundant.
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There's no season, No, what are they going to do?
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Sure, they'll push it back, but still, I hope we have it
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obviously, as summer without baseball sucks.
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Blaine and simple the Twins look, I I think maybe if you're
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trying to find a silver lining, Twins fans, yeah, it's going to
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hurt for a year or two, but maybe down the road you'll look
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back at this day. July 31st, 2026 is the day that
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maybe changed the fortunes of the franchise, assuming the pole
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ads don't own it still and you have to believe that they are
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going to sell. They're they're certainly
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trying, but man, oh man, that roster now.
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How would you like to work in ticket sales at Target Field
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Phones? I mean, they're ringing.
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Do we order tickets on the phone anymore?
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I'm not sure we do. Anyways, I get my point is
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there's going to be plenty of good seats available at Target
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Field for the remainder of the season.
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But there are a couple of teams I thought got marketably better
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yesterday and I give them full marks for doing so.
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And in particular, I think you start and when it comes to the
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American League, you start in the West.
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The Astros, the Mariners and the Rangers all push their chips to
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the middle of the table. That's going to be a fascinating
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3 team W out West in the American League where the Astros
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have a 4 1/2 game lead right now.
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I thought the Tigers did maybe should have done more.
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I maybe it's hard to be critical.
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They're tied for the best record in the American League at this
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point, but I thought that maybe they left some things undone.
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Meanwhile, in the American League, the Yankees made some
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moves, the Blue Jays. Look, the Blue Jays trade
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deadline is all about one guy. It's about Shane Bieber.
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If he can get back and he can pitch this year and the minor
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league starts have been good as he makes his way back from Tommy
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John's surgery, he's going to make another start, I guess, at
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the AAA level in Buffalo, where their AAA franchise is located.
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But if you've got a futures ticket on the Blue Jays, I like
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the moves that they made, in particular Bieber if he can get
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back. Meanwhile, in the National
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League, the two at the top of the of the East, both the Mets
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and the Phillies addressing the bullpen.
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Of the two, maybe the Mets made the most significant moves.
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And I like Durango into the Phillies.
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But the Mets were very, very active.
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And then a team that was as active as anybody who's going to
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pass right over the Central Division like the Cubs.
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Get Castro. Yeah, you're expecting more,
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right? Kept hearing about his frontline
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starter. Let me ask you this question
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when it comes to the Cubs, if if they do have to go to a game
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three and they will, assuming they, you know, don't get
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knocked out in two games in the wild card.
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If they do get if they do get to a the next round, who's going to
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start Game 3 for the Cubs at this point?
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Tyone Colin Ray Soroka No, I, I, I don't, I don't love the moves.
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It might have to be Kate Horton. Kate Horton might be your guy.
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Believe it or not, starting in game #3 if they're oh, Matthew
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Boyd, let's all go Emanaga Boyd in one, in one of those 2 will
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start. One of them will be the second
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one. Game 2 and then game three.
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I guess Kate Horton at this point.
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But but back to the Padres, who made I I thought there's
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something about franchises that just you know what, let's hear
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and now it let's just go for it. And they did.
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They didn't trade Dylan CC still a a Padre here today.
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But man, oh man Mason Miller Suarez with his 30 something
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safe setting up up Freddy Fermin comes over.
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He's going to be the catcher going forward.
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This is a really good team to begin with.
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The Dodgers. I think their spot at the top of
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the division, yeah, they've got a three-game lead, but that's
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going to be a fascinating race down the stretch as Mike
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Shilton, those San Diego Padres going absolutely all out.
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All right, that music means it's time to talk a little college
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football. We'll do.
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So right now. He's Bama.
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Bob back with me to dot IS and cross T's and put a bow on the
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week. First of all, thanks for doing
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this. It's good for both of us, I
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think, to get reacquainted with college football.
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And it is love these conversations.
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You know what, Bam, before we get into the SEC, let's start
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with Notre Dame and then we'll finish up on the ACC.
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We started yesterday, but we didn't get very far.
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Notre Dame, obviously coming off a phenomenal year last year,
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played in the championship game, didn't go their way, but wasn't
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a terrible game. It was what, 10 points?
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Something like that was less than two touchdowns.
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In the end, Ohio State was. Until the pick, you know, until
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the Bumble recovery or whatever. At the end, they were right
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there. Yeah, they were knocking at the
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door, so. Yeah, you know I agree.
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But yeah, so here we go again. No, Riley Leonard, he has moved
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on. The good news is, is Jeremiah
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Love is back and running back quarterback would have to be the
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big question. Marcus Freeman, I think they've
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got the right guy there. You're #4 for him.
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Your thoughts on Notre Dame and what their forecast for this
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season looks like? I'd be shocked if they're not a
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playoff team, but how do you see it?
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Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think it will be a
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major disappointment if they're not a playoff team.
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I think I think if things break their way, maybe they could get
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a top four seed. I don't know for sure obviously,
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but you're right. The big thing is quarterback.
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I mean CJ Carr came in and he kind of was the red shirt
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freshman. He kind of, you know, looked
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like he was going to be their parent.
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But apparently from, and I was just reading a little bit about
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a practice report, you know, this, this Minchi is, has been
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running with the ones. So I mean, you know, is that
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just the way the reps are falling?
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And it's a good, it's a fair question.
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Or is, is he showing something that car's not?
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So my, my guess is, and this is, this is where, you know, we talk
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about it all the time. You know, you got a quarterback,
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you got a chance, but also if you don't, if you don't, if you
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got two guys, you don't have any.
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And so I don't, I would not be surprised if at some point
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during the season we see both these guys play, whether that's
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out of necessity, whether that's out of opportunity, whatever it
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happens to be. I think both these guys are
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going to play this year, if for no other reason than to try to
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keep them both happy, right? Because we know what happens
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next year. If one guy doesn't play, he's
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gone someone else. And by the way, I don't think
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Notre Dame get top 4C because they have to win a conference.
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But anyways. I thought they just.
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Oh yeah, you're well, I, I thought the, I thought they'd
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change it this year. They were just going well,
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maybe. They did.
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That's why we're doing this exercise.
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Yeah, I maybe I'm wrong and if I'm wrong, you know, wouldn't be
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the first time, but I thought they were just going to take top
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four in the rankings this year. OK, I thought that was the one
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change, but anyway, maybe I read that wrong.
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However, look, the schedule, you remember last year, we had their
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schedule last year and it was really, you know, they opened at
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A&M and they finished at USC and you kind of looked in the middle
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and there really wasn't right much right?
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It was very soft and especially when you threw Florida State in
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there who had just. A.
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Horrific season how? This year it's a little tougher,
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it's more front loaded. They open at Miami and I think
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that's a true Rd. game down to South Florida.
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You know, it's going to only be, you know, 115 heat index down
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there. So I think that's a week 0 or
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that's an August 30th game. Saturday.
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They didn't have a fine week. They do get A&L on the return
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trip to Notre Dame, so that should help.
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We talked the other day about the Boise game.
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That's kind of right in the middle of it, right?
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October 4th, Boise comes there, they get USC at home and then it
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kind of lightens maybe a little bit at the end.
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They finish at Boston College and at Navy, at Pitt, Syracuse
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at Stanford. So they can, if they can.
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Now, I don't know how this is going to work with, with an
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inexperienced quarterback. You maybe you would like that
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reversed a little bit because whoever's under center and
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that's why I think there's a chance you're going to see 2.
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Those first two games are tough and you know, you've got to, I
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think at a minimum split those. And if you somehow, if you've
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dropped both of them now they're fighting uphill the whole way
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the rest of the year and trying to gain momentum.
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So I think the schedule is a little tougher than it was last
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year, particularly with an inexperienced guy.
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I understand, but I agree with you on Freeman.
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I think he is the right guy. He was a he was a tremendously
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popular higher with his players. And frankly, he's done a better
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job at Notre Dame than Kelly's done at LSU.
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It's just facts. And so I think Notre Dame is not
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missing Brian Kelly at all. You know, he was successful
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there and you're, I think again, I mean, you know, this is no,
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you know, breaking news or, you know, insightfulness.
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They're going to they're going to rely on Jeremiah Love.
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That's who they're going to. I think they're going to feed
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him. They're going to try to help
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that. And they got the big physical
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offensive line. They're always going to have a
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tight end that can throw too because or two, because of the
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way they way Freeman likes to play and it's just Notre Dame.
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So they're I think the NCAA says they have to have an NFL tight
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end on the roster. I think it's mandatory.
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So, yeah, Love could be this year's Aston Gente, you know,
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the running back that kind of breaks out into, you know, if he
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if everything breaks his way and he could be in that Heisman
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conversation. I think a because he plays for
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Notre Dame and they get a lot of visibility.
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So, yeah, I think it would be disappointing if they did not
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make the playoff for sure. But the schedule is a little
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tougher this year than they do have a Rogue into Arkansas,
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which and it's just a weird place to try to go and play and
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win. They've they've done some stuff
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at home against high ranked opponents.
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Arkansas has they haven't done much else, but they've been
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pretty salty at home. So tough season.
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I think tougher this year schedule wise and also for the,
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you know, because of the inexperience of quarterbacks.
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Yeah, I'm, I'm with you. I mean, I'm looking.
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I had to. When you said Mitch, I thought,
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who the hell is this? You threw one pass last year.
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Yeah, one for one. Yeah, right.
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So, you know, let's try to keep that streak going.
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I was just, I was just looking at something practice report,
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you know, a little bit earlier today and they're saying he's
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running the 77 and the 11, the elevens with the with the ones.
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Now again, does that mean anything?
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I have no idea. You know, is it, is it, is it a,
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you know, kind of a bait and switch, sleight of hand,
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whatever that they're doing. But generally by this time, you
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know, if you're on, you're in August 1st and you, you know,
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you're, I know we got time, You know, really two weeks from now
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would kind of be, you know, the, the, the telling point, But you
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know, he's getting a chance. Let's put it that way.
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And that's again, that's why I really think they're going to,
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they'll wind up both guys playing.
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It's just who who's the guy going when they line up, when
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they, you know, tee it off against Miami?
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Yeah, the the kid that came in when Leonard left the
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championship game last year, Angelini transferred after the
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spring. So maybe there is some
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competition there and maybe these guys can play a little
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bit. Let's move on to the SEC.
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We've got 6 minutes left as I got to stay on time here and
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that's tougher. Easier said than done.
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Yeah. Well, since you mentioned Brian
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Kelly, LSU will see them right off the bat.
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I mean, that game at Clemson's going to be absolutely massive
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for both school, right? For both schools.
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Nussmeyer. A lot of people love them.
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I don't love him. I think he's OK.
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What kind of team will Brian Kelly have this year and does he
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have to win? Is there a number of, I mean, if
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they're, if they're 8 and 4, is that good enough?
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Nine and three, maybe. Like what's good enough this
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year? I think 8:00, Well, they're
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already howling down there, right?
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Because he really hasn't done anything much since he's been
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there. I think 8 and four.
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I think playoff is a minimum for him, not are they going to fire
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him if he doesn't make it. That's a lot of money.
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You go look at that contract and he's got a big contract with a
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big fat buyout, You know, and that's one thing that's kind of
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odd with coaches now with NIL, right?
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Because you got all the NIL money you got to pay the
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players. Can you really afford, you know,
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a $40 million buyout for a coach on top of that?
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So it's kind of odd how that NIL is sort of mixing into, you
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know, the coaching sources. It would be in the past.
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You know what, they'll find a few boosters and, you know, pow,
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out he goes. Now you got to pay the players,
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right? So it's interesting.
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But yeah, I think anything short of a playoff is going to be
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tough for him. And their schedule is it's
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rough, Ken. I mean, you mentioned the game.
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They open at Clemson, then they get Florida.
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A two weeks later they go to Old Miss, they got South Carolina,
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they got A&L, they go to Alabama.
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I mean, that's, that's, I mean, I'm, I'm with you.
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I'm not 100% sold on Nuss Meyer. I think he's talented.
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He's be he looks the part, right?
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He's big. He's tall, big arm, you know,
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mobile when you need, when he needs to be.
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He just made mistakes last year. He made a lot of mistakes, 12
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interceptions. You've seen Brian Kelly, man,
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when when he's on a quarterback, he just, you know, chews him out
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on the sideline. And you got to be able to handle
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that if you're a quarterback playing for Brian Kelly, because
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he's not going to sugarcoat it and it's going to be public and
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he's going to talk about in the press conference.
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So, you know, you got to you got to deal with all that when
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you're talking with him. But they're kind of a they're
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they're getting a little love for, you know, sort of a sleeper
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pick in the SEC this year. I don't see it.
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But there's a lot of questions. You know, again, you look at
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everything else schedule and all that type of thing.
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But he is an experienced quarterback.
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So and that's something that other teams, Georgia, Alabama,
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even Texas, they've got a hyped guy, but they don't really have
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an experience, right? So I mean, they've they've got
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it. Ole Miss doesn't have it,
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Tennessee doesn't have it, you know, South Carolina does.
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And so you're just kind of right.
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So if you want to lean on quarterback as you're one of
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your factors in success for a season, then you got to put them
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in the mix there. But I don't know the schedule.
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Again, pretty tough. And you know, listen, the Wolves
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are starting to circle around Kelly.
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But again, and the schedule is rough.
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I mean, there's no question about it, just rough, especially
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when you throw a true Rd. game out of the chute at Clemson into
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that, that that's a tough way to start.
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I I think the two hottest seats in the SEC obviously Pittman in
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Arkansas, we both want to succeed, but I mean, he's he's
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got to do it this year. I'll tell you the one I think it
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is. And let's spend a minute on
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Oklahoma in our final 3 minutes. One on Oklahoma and one on
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Alabama. They bring in Washington State's
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quarterback Mateer. So they've got a new QB there.
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Venerables has to win. I mean, they won.
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They were six and seven last year.
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That's not good enough. Obviously your thought, I mean
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Week 2 Michigan, Oklahoma, huge spot, huge spot.
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What about Oklahoma? Yeah, I think there's some stuff
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there because, you know, the whole thing was, well, you know,
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what's a transition into the SEC?
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But look what Texas did, OK? They came in with you and, you
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know, their biggest rival, they did OK.
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You know, they they, I don't know if they ran Jackson Arnold
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off whatever. I think a key is going to be
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also, what does Jackson Arnold do at Auburn if he comes in and
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gets and I don't know that that's true.
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I don't know how, but if he comes in and you know, has an 8
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and four, nine and three season for Auburn and Oklahoma
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struggles, they're going to say, well, you know, you what what
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happened here? Why couldn't you Why couldn't
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you do this with him? A lot of factors go into that,
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but perception is reality. Well, they got a little bit of a
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bump last year beating Alabama late.
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OK, that was that was kind of the bump that maybe got them,
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you know, a little pressure off. But I agree with you.
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Mission going. I love Michigan going to
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Oklahoma. I mean, I just, I just love, I
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hope we don't get away from these.
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I love these power programs meeting on campus, right?
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And then they've got Auburn. So they're Jackson Arnold's
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going to go back to Norman. Baby, you want to talk about
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some pressure? OK, How, what are you going to
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do there if you know, you don't beat Michigan, let's say, and
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then Jackson Arnold comes in and lights you up.
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I'm not saying he will because I think Auburn's got some holes.
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But if he does, then you're going to get you're going to
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start get see some howling because after that you've got
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Texas, you go to South Carolina. How about this stretch, Texas at
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South Carolina, Ole Miss at Tennessee at Alabama and they
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finish with LSU. I don't they're going to
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struggle to get to a Balkan struggle for 7:00 and 5:00.
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Again, I'm with you. And I think the key game for
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them, obviously Texas, the biggest rival, if Jackson Arnold
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comes in and really, you know, lights them up, Venable is going
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to be in trouble because that schedule down the stretch is
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brutal. Last, the last team, let's take
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a look at Alabama. Obviously quarterback, I guess
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is a question mark at Alabama this year to correct me if I'm
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wrong, obviously Ryan Williams, if it's not Jeremiah Smith.
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This is the youngster you should be talking about at the wide
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receiver position. Your thoughts on Alabama?
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9:00 and 4:00 last year. Is this a team that could win
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the SEC? They can and again, just because
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I think there's so much question around the conference at
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quarterback, think of everybody that left and think of the ones
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that do have experience. They're either new teams like
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Auburn Lagway at Florida, but their schedule is brutal.
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We talked about nuts Meyer, you know, darts gone.
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You know, Simpson's the guy right now.
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But again, you know, and I think they're going to rely on their
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defense and the the the feeling, and maybe it's more hope than
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than feeling is that the Boer year 2, he brought in Ryan
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Grubb. You know, Grubb was with him in
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at Washington. He didn't come last year.
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He went to the Seahawks and now he's he's the offensive
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coordinator. So the hope is that it'll be
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more continuity there. Milro really didn't fit any what
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either one of them wanted to do. A great athlete, but we all know
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the struggles he had. Simpson inexperienced, but if
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you believe what's coming out of practice it's it's it's pretty
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good right not much behind him. The schedule is tough.
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They go to Florida State. They do get Wisconsin at home.
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I don't think that game is, you know, really going to be a
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challenge. Nope for them, maybe it was I
20:36
agree, but they go to Georgia, they get Tennessee, they go to
20:40
South Carolina, they got LSU. I mean, it's it's, it is what it
20:44
is in the SEC, right, But I think they they should contend,
20:49
you know, 10 and 2. They should be in that mix to
20:52
win at least to get to the SEC championship game.
20:55
Generally, if you get there, you're going to be a playoff.
20:58
If if they don't, then then we're going to have some some
21:01
conversations around him and listen, he's in a bad position
21:05
going after Nick Saban. Just bottom line, nobody to
21:08
duplicate that ever. But it is what it is and he took
21:11
it and he's getting paid for it. So we didn't do.
21:14
Absolutely, Bama. We'll talk in the weeks ahead.
21:16
Thanks for spending the week with me.
21:17
Appreciate it, buddy. We're out of time.
21:18
Thank you. Paul.
21:19
Anytime, pal. Good to talk to you Bama, Bob,
21:21
Trent and I, I talk college football.
21:24
Every Monday we recap the week. On Friday we preview the
21:29
weekend. We'll take your time out, but
21:31
let's talk Hawks with Tom Caicard, hawkeyereport.com for
21:34
Tom, part of the on three network position battles he's
21:37
looking for in training camp. Talk to Tom about that,
21:40
etcetera. When we come back it's Miller
21:42
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Let's talk some Hawks. Tom Caker covers them.
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Tom joins us every week, 50 out of the 52 weeks of the year on
22:03
Friday. But sometimes we have to move
22:05
around a little bit. Tom, good to talk to you.
22:08
Who looks fast in those pictures that are showing up online?
22:11
You know the you know the drill. Don't you?
22:13
It's unreal. I love it.
22:15
I love it. Just the some of the comments.
22:17
Favorite favorite things ever was boy they look fast and I was
22:21
like. Still picture.
22:23
Yeah. Cracks me up.
22:26
Well, let's get into, by the way, Kirk Ference's 70th
22:29
birthday. He truly is, at least to me,
22:32
listening to him speak. I don't know when the end's
22:36
coming, Tom. Not that I think anybody, well,
22:37
some people probably are, but I think the majority of Hawk fans
22:41
are are are good with him staying until he's ready to go
22:45
on his own. But I don't think that's anytime
22:48
soon. Oh, yeah, I don't think, yeah, I
22:54
think everybody's just comfortable with with him, you
22:57
know, being around, you know, what I think I think happened
23:02
was it is after that, I think after 2015, everybody was just
23:07
like, OK, he's going to coach and tell you what's going to
23:09
coach anymore. You know, that's sort of like
23:12
where we're at now. How many, you know, I think what
23:16
you said in the last week, where are we at in the golf course?
23:19
You know, 18 hitting up to the green.
23:24
You know, I don't think there's a whole lot of time left, but I
23:29
you know, that's because you don't see guys coaching to their
23:32
80s unless they're Joe Paterno. You know, it's just you just
23:35
don't. So I think a few more years and
23:39
I think everybody's going to be fine with that.
23:41
And unless they have like two years in a row where it's, but I
23:46
think Kirk will recognize that if that happened.
23:49
I agree. And just kind of say, you know
23:51
what, probably time. Yep, a time for a new voice.
23:54
I totally agree with you. I don't think you would run the
23:57
program into the ground. I think it means too much to him
23:59
and his family. I really do.
24:01
Well, let's talk about what's going on, Tom.
24:03
And with training camp underway, biggest position battle to you
24:07
is, is what? Or maybe a couple of them.
24:10
What are you watching? Maybe closer than others when it
24:12
comes to position fights. Left tackle, but just because
24:17
it's such an important position and it's a legitimate battle.
24:21
Bryce George Dosler, Trevor Loud, the guy that I've kind of
24:25
been pretty high on. So yeah, I think, I think those
24:29
guys are, you know, engaged in a pretty good battle.
24:34
I would say the cornerback position is up for grabs.
24:38
I'm curious about the Barrios kid that came in from South
24:41
Dakota, if he can work his way up and and get into a starting
24:46
contending position there, defensive tackle, how is that
24:51
rotation going to look? Because that's so important for
24:55
Iowa stopping the run. They've got to have guys that
24:57
eat the run and and you know, the run game up.
25:00
And is Jonah Pace standing up? You know, I saw the hype reel
25:04
with Bryce Hawthorne. Can Pittman, you know, emerge in
25:09
his senior year? Because we know what Graves is.
25:12
And I think we're pretty good with Llewellyn.
25:14
The defensive end look like with Herket and Brian Allen and Max
25:19
Llewellyn and, you know, the on and on.
25:21
I mean, they've got some talent there, but the tackle is a
25:25
question mark. So.
25:26
And you know what, I was Synchronowski.
25:29
We didn't see him in the spring. You didn't.
25:32
Interesting. Of course you didn't.
25:34
You know. Yeah, yeah, we really didn't
25:37
throw that last practice, but I'm really interested to see
25:42
what the offense looks like, if there's any rush for him early.
25:47
But I, you know, I think he'll be fine.
25:49
And I'd be more worried if he was like a sophomore or
25:54
something like that, you know, haven't practiced and all that
25:57
stuff. He's been through it.
25:58
He's 49 and six and he knows how to win.
26:02
And yeah, so I so those are just a couple things.
26:05
Running backs interesting too, I think far.
26:07
Further down the depth chart you mean.
26:09
Yeah, just I think Moulton's the guy.
26:12
But interested in TJ Washington. I'm interested in doll.
26:17
If you watch that video clip, boy, the McNeil Kid looks a lot
26:21
like a guy who wore 25 a few years back, didn't he?
26:24
With the little shimmy to his his run, the McNeil Kid look
26:28
like Aqua Wadley. Yeah, he was unbelievable.
26:32
So Moulton the guy though, right?
26:35
He would, don't you? Don't you expect him to win the
26:37
spot? Yep, Yep, I do.
26:42
Full disclosure, and you'll probably remember this, I was on
26:45
the the Kamari Moulton bandwagon last year and then Dale Johnson
26:50
showed up in the second-half of that first game of the year and
26:52
said. Not so fast because he was
26:57
suspended the first half, correct?
26:59
He was suspended by by his teammates the first half.
27:03
And that's, you know, and that's, that's what happened.
27:07
And the leadership committee got him and and the rest, as they
27:11
say, is history. And he grew up a whole lot that
27:13
year and fulfilled all that potential that I think we all
27:18
saw him haven't since he arrived on campus.
27:21
Yeah, and there's some sharps out there that are actually
27:24
picking him to be Offensive Rookie of the Year with the
27:27
Steelers. Price keeps coming down.
27:29
So we'll see where that goes. All right, Am I optimistic in
27:32
saying this that that there's, I don't recall as much depth in
27:36
the wide receiver room as we've legitimate depth?
27:39
I mean, there's always been guys there bodies there.
27:42
But when I look at the wide receivers, I, I think that this
27:44
is, I think there's a reason for optimism, Tom.
27:48
I do too. I think there's there's
27:51
definitely more talent in that room than there's been in in
27:55
quite some time, maybe since the, you know, Tyrone, Tracy
27:59
Smith, Marsette, Brandon Smith. And I think there's more depth
28:03
there right now than there was at that time.
28:06
Just I could. Go, I feel comfortable like 7 or
28:10
8 deep. And, and I think they're, I
28:16
think they're really talented. You know, KJ Parker's, they got
28:18
to watch. He's the one that's getting all
28:20
the buzz and everybody I talked to and even the the guys on
28:24
defense, they're like, yeah, the Parker kid, He's always open.
28:28
He's always open. So keep an eye on him.
28:31
We saw what Gil could do. I think Vandersby will be
28:34
better. They've just got a lot of and
28:38
Seth Anderson, when he's healthy and if he could stay healthy, he
28:42
was the best guy this spring when he was healthy, you know,
28:45
because he was healthy the spring.
28:46
So got all of his reps and you know, you talk to anybody around
28:50
the program and they'll tell you he's he was the most consistent
28:52
guy the entire spring. So he's a guy that's going to
28:56
factor in. I just wonder how they're going
28:58
to keep all those mouths. Hats.
29:00
That's it. Yeah.
29:01
Well, and ferrets. He went out of his way to
29:03
mention Vanderzee on Big 10 Network when he was in Las Vegas
29:07
sitting down at the set. So there's, you know, there's
29:09
there's clearly something there in his mind going to be
29:12
fascinating to with shakes out what next Saturday is that kids
29:17
day? Did I see that?
29:18
Yeah, yeah. The 9th is Kids Day, so we've
29:21
got Media Day next Friday and then we've got we've got Kids
29:25
Day, so it's here and then the Big 10 networks there on the
29:29
11th. Saw that Bing bang boom.
29:32
Yeah. So it's like here we're going to
29:34
give you all this stuff overload and then we're and then for and
29:38
then good luck waiting for 21 days.
29:41
Right. And that's when we'll get a
29:42
depth chart is after that 21 days, right or leading up to a
29:45
very late in that process. That week, yeah, that week, that
29:48
week, game week, that Monday, we'll get a depth chart finally.
29:51
So that will be interesting. But you know what, We can kind
29:55
of maybe draw some conclusions at Kids Day because we'll see
29:59
what they're out there doing. So I think that's going to be
30:02
that makes Kids Day even more intriguing to me is we're going
30:05
to be able to kind of at least maybe suddenly a little bit just
30:09
draw a depth chart up and could be completely wrong by the time
30:14
we get to August 30th, but at least we'll, hey, there's
30:19
nothing wrong with us doing a little speculation, right?
30:21
Absolutely. Well, let's speculate on this.
30:23
Have you heard of there's is anybody in a walking boot or
30:27
anything like that? Any injuries that you've heard
30:29
of Tama that you're keeping an eye?
30:30
On yeah, haven't heard any good then yeah, there are only two
30:34
practices in right. It's pretty good so far.
30:38
But yeah, it just seems like everything you know they're
30:42
they're not even in like full pads yet.
30:44
So it's I think today or tomorrow is that I think they
30:47
got to do 3 practices maybe and then they can get in full pads.
30:51
So once we once we get through the Big 10 being on site, will
30:54
will you have any media available avails, will the
30:57
coordinators be made available in that three-week period?
31:01
There might be. In the past we've had that, but
31:04
in the past we haven't. So it's it's kind of hit and
31:07
miss If we'll get Tim and Phil and Lavar maybe, but I'm hopeful
31:13
that we will. But I don't know that anything
31:15
is guaranteed at this point. Good stuff, Tom Cake or at
31:18
hawkeyereport.com. Follow it all at on three
31:20
media.com. Tom, thank you.
31:23
Appreciate you coming on. Yep Yep, talk to you next week,
31:26
Tom Caker. We take a look at the Hawks.
31:29
So this is some breaking news ESPN, the NFL blockbuster
31:32
blockbuster billion dollar deal. The red zone will then move to
31:39
ESPN. Well, not ESPN, but one of them.
31:42
Official announcement coming next week, but it'd been rumored
31:44
for a while that the red zone and ESPN and we're moving
31:49
towards somewhat of an agreement.
31:51
The NFL Network's got to be a part of it as well, I would
31:53
assume. So some changes afoot when it
31:57
comes to those two behemoths. We'll take your time out.
31:59
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Hello. How are you, Mitch Holtis Good
32:38
to talk to you before we hear from Chet Mcduffie, who I I
32:41
would look. I'd love him in the Broncos
32:43
uniform. I think he's that good of a
32:45
player there. Drew Tranquil apparently maybe
32:49
not as bad as some were speculating on X, believe it or
32:52
not. There was some people a little
32:53
bit over the top, but it's a back injury, but not significant
32:57
according to Coach Reed. Is that what I'm reading that
33:00
right? Just saw him.
33:01
I literally saw Tranquil literally 50 seconds ago.
33:06
Yep. And of course they're going to
33:07
tell you I'm OK I'm OK. But he wouldn't.
33:11
I wouldn't have seen him 50 seconds ago if this was like,
33:15
you know, life threatening. I don't know what's on an axe
33:17
already, but I just kind of get perturbed where people want to
33:20
jump the gun and put something out there and click bait it.
33:23
But he just made an excellent interception against Kelsey,
33:27
actually very athletic and then wasn't that long after.
33:31
And I don't think he did on the interception that came off the
33:35
field, but I think he'd be out for a little bit.
33:38
But I, I mean, just saw him, man.
33:41
So he wasn't like an excruciating pain getting some
33:44
kind of acupuncture. So I think he's, I think he'd be
33:47
OK. Good stuff.
33:48
Yeah, Andy Reid said there was a back injury late in practice.
33:52
Anyways, let's move on. You know, one of those guys.
33:55
This is a good spot for me to do this because you mentioned pay
33:58
pill. Pill I mean you get.
33:59
Credit. You get credit for this one
34:00
because I was trying to think the Mount Rushmore's full.
34:04
We've done that. There's only four spots.
34:05
Yeah. And I'm thinking, have you been,
34:08
have you been to Mount Rushmore? No, I'm well, yeah, you know, in
34:12
the distance. I haven't been like to it
34:14
actually. OK, Yeah.
34:15
Well, not far from there, there is a Crazy Horse monument for
34:18
the, you know, the outstanding Native American warrior.
34:22
So brilliant. And this feels like, like
34:25
Mcduffie's there, like, you know, it's like the next not far
34:29
from from the Mount Rushmore, but deserving his own place or
34:33
who's the next Mount Rushmore? That's where I'm going to go.
34:35
And you talked me into this man. He's a hell of a player.
34:38
You're a hockey guy. Yeah, hockey guy.
34:41
Your sister is so important. But I think the same way about
34:44
Patrick. Suzanne the second who I'm not
34:46
going to, you know, soft gardener.
34:48
We talk about all the great corners.
34:49
Mcguffey doesn't get enough credit.
34:51
But it was interesting because when I talked to Macduff, in his
34:55
three years, he has seen this defense grow kind of underrated,
35:00
especially in scoring defense, but he's seen it grow.
35:03
And then the whole secret sauce to the Spags defense.
35:07
Two years ago when I said there's just something special
35:10
with this group of guys coming here and communications been on
35:13
point, the work ethics been on point, and I think everybody has
35:16
bought into this system and ready to roll.
35:19
For you, the ability to move back inside some if you have to
35:22
play the slot or play outside, or the fact that Spags like to
35:26
shift it around. What about adding more guys that
35:28
can play so that allows you to be able to move around?
35:31
I love it. I love it.
35:32
I mean when you talk about. Spags defense, all you think
35:35
about is different guys playing in different positions and the
35:38
more guys you get that can do more, I think just makes the
35:42
defense even more unique because now you got guys that can play
35:45
corn or nickel, different guys in different positions doing
35:48
different things. And I feel we're going to give a
35:50
lot of headache, a lot of quarterbacks, a lot of
35:52
headaches. That's what they got to get
35:55
Christian Fulton on the field soon.
35:57
But if Macduff moves inside, he rushes from as a slot corner
36:01
like an edge rusher like Nick Benito.
36:04
What he does and does well for the Broncos, Mcduffie does that
36:07
as a DB. It's the best I've ever seen at
36:09
it. He told me he actually trains
36:11
that way and watches edge rushers that people talk about.
36:15
His lack of interceptions can, but he's had 113 solo tackles in
36:19
three years as a corner. That's unheard of.
36:22
Then 14 passes, defense and quarterback hits and hurries.
36:27
He if he doesn't get to Brock Purdy on 3rd down in regulation
36:31
Super Bowl 58, that Chiefs don't win that game.
36:34
So anyway, there's a lot to Trent Mcduffie.
36:37
More than interceptions. No, couldn't agree with you
36:39
more. And you know what I'm hearing,
36:41
and this is the second straight day I've heard this when it
36:43
comes to Spags defense. Chris Jones pointed out how so
36:46
many guys are asked to no move around and play so many
36:49
positions and do so seemingly. And I just heard Mcduffie say
36:52
the same thing. This must be a product of Spags
36:56
defense, right? That you're going to be asked to
36:57
play different positions and you have to be ready.
37:01
And you have to recruit or draft to your system.
37:04
When Justin Herbert comes to the line in Week 1 on September 5th
37:07
in Sao Paulo, Brazil, he's looking at a lot of stuff, but
37:10
he's looking at personnel. Where's this guy?
37:13
Where's that guy? And now all of a sudden it's
37:15
taking him more time to look. Oh my gosh, he's over here.
37:18
Why is Mcduffie here? Why is our men who here?
37:20
And why is Chris Jones here? And so he has to process all
37:23
that. And the Chiefs do it better than
37:25
anybody in the league. But you've got to find the
37:27
talent to be able to do that. I call it the Industrial
37:30
Revolution defense. It's interchangeable parts.
37:32
No doubt. I want to save a minute to talk
37:35
about a guy. I'm sure you've crossed paths
37:37
with him when he was the radio voice of the Raiders late in his
37:39
career. Brett Musburger honored
37:42
yesterday he's going into the Hall of Fame.
37:45
I believe it's the Pete Rozelle Award, if I have that right.
37:47
If I don't, my apologies. But just your thoughts on a
37:51
guy's meant so much to the NFL. Going back to the NFL today on
37:55
CBS, what a legendary show that was.
37:58
Just a comment or two on Musburger, I think.
38:00
Long overdue gaining entrance into the Hall of Fame.
38:04
Yeah, you're looking live, right?
38:05
That's. True.
38:06
So many games started. His versatility, I think was
38:11
key. Speaking of versatility and
38:13
players, it's the same for announcers and to be able to do
38:17
different sports and have big moments and capture the moments.
38:21
And he also would take, I think the research, but not overdo it.
38:24
He he would just the great ones are able to to Zing the moment,
38:28
so to speak, but not overdo it. And so that's a that's a, that's
38:33
a learned trade man. And he was really good at.
38:35
It no doubt the Donaldsons are really good at pizza.
38:38
Let's spend our final minute with them.
38:41
Well, you mentioned Tom Brady yesterday.
38:42
I'll go Jared Wiley, he's #12 for the Chiefs, the second year
38:45
tight end of TCU. That's your 12.
38:48
But I'll stay with Gretzky, although Jerry Tiller is now in
38:50
our camp. I'm not sorry.
38:52
X Charger and check charger Raider, but Tillery's 99.
38:57
So it's 1299. Think about that.
38:59
So let's stay with Gretzky, the 1299 for this medium
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cheeseburger pizza, which is man value.
39:04
You talk about value in getting a draft pick.
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It's value in getting a pizza with our guys, the Donaldsons
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Papa John's good stuff, Mitch, we'll talk to you on Monday.
39:16
Appreciate it. I love these training camp
39:19
reports. We do them every day until you
39:20
guys hit the road, etcetera. So thank you for the week.
39:23
Talk to you next week. Thank you for thank you for the
39:25
assist on Mcduffie all year. You got it, pal.
39:27
Thank you. Good to hear from you.
39:29
Mitch Holt is the voice of the Kansas Kansas City Chiefs.
39:32
And yeah, Mcduffie. Mcduffie is a tackling machine.
39:34
He's a hell of a player. This was a team that was all
39:37
about the offense, right? But it was the defense.
39:40
Once they, you know, took that next step, seemingly, OK,
39:42
Patrick Mahomes has something to do with the offense.
39:45
But the defense came along with them.
39:46
It was no longer a team that was just relied on, you know,
39:49
outscoring everybody. It's a legitimate defense and
39:52
have been for the last few years.
39:54
Mike Palm will kick off our number 2 Eugene repay covers
39:57
Iowa State. They had a media availability
39:59
yesterday. Couple of the assistant coaches.
40:02
We'll talk to Eugene before we get out of here at 2.
40:04
Miller and Condon talking sports with you.
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