Latest / Becker’s Payer Issues Podcast / Building California’s Physician Pipeline: A Conversation with Dorothy Seleski of Health Net
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- 0:00Hello, everyone. This is Jacob Emerson with the
- 0:02Becker's Payer Issues podcast.
- 0:04Thrilled today to be joined by Dorothy Zaleski,
- 0:07who is the president of Medi Cal at
- 0:09Health Net. Dorothy, thank you so much for
- 0:11taking the time to be with us on
- 0:12the podcast today.
- 0:14Thank you for having us.
- 0:16Yeah. Absolutely. And and before we dive into
- 0:18everything we wanna talk with you about, Dorothy,
- 0:19and and some really special things happening at
- 0:21Health Net, can you tell us a little
- 0:23bit more about yourself, your background in health
- 0:25care, and what it is that you do
- 0:27today at Health Net?
- 0:29Sure.
- 0:30So I have worked in health care my
- 0:32entire career.
- 0:33It's been more than thirty five years.
- 0:35I have worked at hospitals with physician groups,
- 0:39health plans, mostly with health plans. But I
- 0:42started my career at a federal agency,
- 0:45working in legislation and public information.
- 0:49About eight years ago, I had been with
- 0:52Health Net in the,
- 0:54nineties, and about eight years ago, I returned,
- 0:57to work on specifically on the Medi Cal
- 0:59team.
- 1:00Our focus was on enhancing our local relationships,
- 1:04with community organizations,
- 1:06doctors, hospitals, and and the government agencies,
- 1:10public health, mental health, all of the agencies
- 1:13who serve the same families that we do,
- 1:15at Health Net in the Medi Cal program.
- 1:18So earlier this year, I was, promoted
- 1:21to the president of the Medi Cal program,
- 1:24and I lead the teams
- 1:26who,
- 1:27deliver the benefits to our Medi Cal members,
- 1:30who work with those community
- 1:32partners that I just described,
- 1:34and who work on implementing new services and
- 1:37programs
- 1:38to help families
- 1:39and, the members that we serve.
- 1:43Fantastic. So a long career in health care,
- 1:45Dorothy, and now you're you're overseeing one of
- 1:47the largest,
- 1:48Medi Cal plans in the state of California.
- 1:51In that vein, we're here today to talk
- 1:53about Health Net and the Centene Foundation
- 1:56awarding more than $9,000,000
- 1:58in grants to help bolster the future of
- 2:01California's
- 2:01physician workforce.
- 2:03As you know, the the physician workforce in
- 2:06the state is facing a significant shortage. It's
- 2:08certainly not a new problem, but current predictions
- 2:11is that there will be a physician gap
- 2:14of 86,000
- 2:15by the year 2036,
- 2:16which really is not that far away. So
- 2:19talk to us about the impact that Health
- 2:21Net and Centene's investment
- 2:24in things like early childhood education,
- 2:26medical school support,
- 2:28professional development initiatives.
- 2:30How is that all gonna help address this
- 2:32this growing gap, particularly when it comes to
- 2:35underserved communities?
- 2:37Great question. 2036
- 2:39is not that far away, and
- 2:42we've focused our effort across the continuum. We
- 2:45believe
- 2:46real solutions are gonna take place
- 2:49take root long before residency.
- 2:52You know, we by sparking curiosity in preschool
- 2:56classrooms, it's 2025
- 2:59now,
- 2:59eleven years mid preschool classrooms,
- 3:03elementary school,
- 3:04nurturing students who are going through college
- 3:07and guiding them during medical training and beyond,
- 3:11that's how we're planting the seeds for a
- 3:13stronger and more resilient pipeline.
- 3:15It's got to start early.
- 3:18When we think about the neighborhoods,
- 3:20where families struggle to find care,
- 3:23We know it's important,
- 3:25for students from underrepresented
- 3:27backgrounds in those communities
- 3:29see themselves reflected in future physicians.
- 3:33That way they feel empowered to pursue,
- 3:36a path they thought was once unreachable. So
- 3:38when you think about that support
- 3:41across, their education,
- 3:43they now have an opportunity,
- 3:45a real belief that they can pursue
- 3:48this,
- 3:49career.
- 3:50And by doing so, we're expanding our workforce
- 3:52and honoring,
- 3:54California's
- 3:55rich tapestry of cultures,
- 3:57again, by focusing on those underrepresented,
- 4:00communities.
- 4:02And finally, it takes more than just this
- 4:04investment. You know? By weaving together health care
- 4:07providers,
- 4:08educators,
- 4:10policymakers,
- 4:11and even those community organizations and champions I
- 4:14talked about earlier, we're building a collaborative
- 4:17safety
- 4:19net that really lifts,
- 4:21these,
- 4:22students
- 4:23and lifts tomorrow's doctors
- 4:26in those communities and and ultimately brings a
- 4:29fair access to care for every Californian.
- 4:33Certainly. And and let's let's talk about that,
- 4:35Dorothy, in terms of all the different groups
- 4:36and the sectors that are coming together on
- 4:39this on this problem. Can you elaborate on
- 4:41on some of the challenges, but also opportunities
- 4:44that,
- 4:45your organization has encountered in forging these partnerships
- 4:48across health care, education,
- 4:50advocacy sectors, and and how all of these
- 4:53groups collaborating is going to contribute to a
- 4:55long term solution.
- 4:57Jacob,
- 4:58the all of those groups, it's like that
- 5:01tackling that challenge
- 5:02is is a lot like, conducting a symphony.
- 5:06Right?
- 5:07Symphony. Each sector, you know, the health care
- 5:08sector that I represent, academia,
- 5:11advocacy,
- 5:12for the communities we're focused on, each one
- 5:15plays its own melody.
- 5:18But we're aligning priorities
- 5:20and timelines and resources
- 5:23across those
- 5:24melodies,
- 5:25and that takes patience
- 5:27and trust
- 5:28and compassionate leadership. It takes a lot of
- 5:31listening
- 5:32and finding
- 5:33finding commonalities
- 5:35of outcome that you're shooting for. So when
- 5:38we harmonize our efforts, you know, inspiration really
- 5:41blossoms. That that list that that listening
- 5:45and empathy
- 5:46really leads to inspiration.
- 5:48Educators
- 5:50are are are a part of our of
- 5:52this collaborative to ignite early dreams.
- 5:55The advocates we we we are engaging with,
- 5:58you know, they're working to dismantle systemic barriers
- 6:02to students,
- 6:03to the amount of,
- 6:06placements
- 6:07here in California for for, students graduating from
- 6:11medical school. And the health care leaders who've
- 6:14who have joined the collaborative
- 6:15are opening doors
- 6:17in real world situations in real,
- 6:20in real settings
- 6:22to provide extended training to to the students
- 6:24we're talking about.
- 6:26Together,
- 6:27we're crafting initiatives that are more holistic and
- 6:30inclusive,
- 6:31far reaching, and cover
- 6:33education,
- 6:35access to training,
- 6:37and
- 6:38access to the academics they need.
- 6:41Absolutely. And and I'm glad you called out,
- 6:43that this is really looking to tackle systemic
- 6:46barriers in this physician workforce as well, Dorothy,
- 6:49because as you know, a significant portion of
- 6:52this investment is focused on increasing
- 6:54the representation
- 6:55of Latino physicians in the state given their
- 6:58underrepresentation
- 6:59in the medical field despite
- 7:01California's large Latino population. So how do you
- 7:05how does Health Net envision this investment improving
- 7:08health care access and patient outcomes, from from
- 7:11that lens?
- 7:12You know, we've seen
- 7:14trust blossom between patients in the health care
- 7:17system when patients meet doctors
- 7:20and other practitioners
- 7:22who speak their language.
- 7:24That trust,
- 7:26between patient and doctor leads to clearer communication
- 7:30and healthier outcomes.
- 7:32You noted that there's some, discrepancies.
- 7:35Nearly forty percent of Californians identify as Latino,
- 7:39but just 6% of the physicians are Latino.
- 7:43This isn't just a statistic when you it
- 7:45really does create a barrier to culturally centered
- 7:49care and, therefore, to better health outcomes.
- 7:52So that's why, you know,
- 7:54as part of this,
- 7:57part of the focus of this investment is
- 7:59we're committed
- 8:01to every step from full tuition scholarships for
- 8:03first generation students to culturally,
- 8:07attune training programs that I mentioned, and even
- 8:09leadership development for mid career
- 8:12clinicians, especially Latino physicians, to advocate on behalf
- 8:17of growing this pipeline.
- 8:19Over time, you know, we expect these efforts
- 8:22to to dissolve,
- 8:24both cultural and linguistic barriers to care,
- 8:28to boost patient engagement through that trust between
- 8:31patient and doctor,
- 8:33and, ultimately, to derive measurable improvements in health
- 8:36care because of that trust and willingness
- 8:41to,
- 8:42heed the advice of their doctor and ultimately,
- 8:46lifting the the well-being and the wellness of
- 8:48of Latino communities across the state.
- 8:51You know, our vision
- 8:53is a state where everybody sees can see
- 8:56a doctor or a nurse
- 8:58or a physician for assistant, dentist, or other
- 9:01provider who understand their their
- 9:05world, understands their world, and really honors
- 9:08their personal journey to wellness.
- 9:12Certainly. And that is such a such a
- 9:13large gap that you mentioned, Shworty, but but
- 9:16so great to know that this is a
- 9:17top priority for Health Net in terms of
- 9:20bridging that divide.
- 9:22Before we go,
- 9:24anything else you'd like to share with our
- 9:26listeners? We've got a lot of other health
- 9:27plan leaders listening in from all over the
- 9:29country. Any final bits of advice you wanna
- 9:32share with them? I don't know if it's
- 9:34advice so much as a challenge, Jacob.
- 9:37I would say to to my colleagues in
- 9:39in health care, don't wait for change to
- 9:42happen.
- 9:43Be the spark.
- 9:44This physician shortage, as you mentioned, is it's
- 9:48huge and it's daunting,
- 9:50but it's also a chance for every one
- 9:52of us and our organizations
- 9:55to make a lasting impact in the future.
- 9:58I would also challenge my colleagues to invest
- 10:00early and boldly.
- 10:02You
- 10:03know, inspire students in classrooms, whether that's through
- 10:06investments or whether that's through your personal sharing
- 10:09your personal experience.
- 10:11Remove financial
- 10:13and systemic barriers,
- 10:15mentor emerging talent,
- 10:17and ultimately support the caregivers
- 10:20we're talking about who are already serving our
- 10:22communities.
- 10:24And finally, my final challenge is
- 10:27embrace cultural empathy and closing gaps in care,
- 10:31as your compass.
- 10:33You know, those two things together
- 10:36are necessary. You have to understand the journey
- 10:39in order to help the patient
- 10:41understand and seek the care they're they need.
- 10:44And so by partnering across
- 10:46health plans,
- 10:48schools, advocacy groups, and community organizations as we've
- 10:51been talking about this morning,
- 10:53we can build a future where everybody has
- 10:55a seat at the table of care and
- 10:57every Californian thrives. Those are my challenges.
- 11:01Last thoughts for my colleagues.
- 11:04Wonderful. Well, I think that's a great place
- 11:06to leave things, Dorothy. I wanna thank you
- 11:09for taking the time to sit down with
- 11:10us and for sharing with us and our
- 11:13listeners about all the impactful work going on,
- 11:16under your leadership at Health Net. So so
- 11:19thank you.
- 11:20Oh, thank you for having me again. I
- 11:22I really appreciate the opportunity to talk about
- 11:24this this wonderful,
- 11:26investment in our future.
- 11:28Absolutely. And to our listeners, if you'd like
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