Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / Shades of the Truth - The Hunt for William Reece
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Imagine for a second that you're holding a spare key
- 0:04to your car. You know, the kind one of those
- 0:06little magnetic Hida key boxes you stick under the wheel
- 0:08well or behind the bumper.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think everybody used to have them on those.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Right, exactly. So you test it on a Monday night,
- 0:14and it works perfectly. You slip it back into the car.
- 0:17You know, completely satisfy that you have a safety net.
- 0:20Speaker 2: You feel totally secure, exactly.
- 0:23Speaker 1: But then the very next afternoon, you're standing in a
- 0:27sunny parking lot, right, you reach for that box, you
- 0:31pull out the key, you slide it into the lock,
- 0:34and well, it just doesn't.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Turn, which is, you know, just a minor inconvenience, Right.
- 0:39Speaker 1: It's the kind of tiny, frustrating malfunction that happens to
- 0:42all of us. You probably sigh, shake your head and
- 0:45walk over to a payphone to call for a ride.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't even think twice about it.
- 0:49Speaker 1: But what you don't realize, what you couldn't possibly fathom
- 0:52in that moment, is that this tiny mechanical failure has
- 0:57just intersected with something unimaginably dark.
- 1:00Speaker 2: It really has.
- 1:01Speaker 1: That jammed lock is the difference between going home and
- 1:05vanishing completely off the face of the earth.
- 1:07Speaker 2: And that that is the terrifying reality of the material
- 1:11we are analyzing today. We negotiate our safety every single
- 1:15day based on a set of unspoken.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Rules, right like an internal checklist exactly.
- 1:19Speaker 2: We assess risk based on context. So a dark alley
- 1:23at three in the morning that registers as high risk, sure,
- 1:26But a busy parking lot outside of law enforcement building
- 1:29in the middle of a Tuesday that registers as zero risk.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Zero. You wouldn't even blink, right.
- 1:35Speaker 2: And when those parameters fail, the psychological impact is profound.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Well, welcome to the deep dive. Our mission today is
- 1:43to unravel a twenty four year long mystery that's spanned
- 1:46across Texas and Oklahoma.
- 1:48Speaker 2: It's a massive story.
- 1:49Speaker 1: It really is. We're pulling from a highly detailed documentary
- 1:52transcript covering the summer of nineteen ninety seven. We're looking
- 1:56at the disappearances of four young women, the devastating ripple
- 1:59effects on their community, and ultimately the unmasking of a
- 2:02serial predator who managed to hide in plain sight for
- 2:05decades dechead. But as I was reading through these sources,
- 2:09it struck me that this isn't just a true crime timeline.
- 2:12It's so much more than that.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Oh far from it. I mean, the material presents a
- 2:15profound study in a few distinct areas. First, we're going
- 2:18to examine the incredible evolution of forensic science.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Which is wild to see over that timeframe.
- 2:24Speaker 2: It is specifically how investigators bridge the massive technological gap
- 2:29between you know, nineteen nineties papal phone cards and advanced
- 2:34twenty fifteen DNA profiling. We're also going to dissect the
- 2:38psychology of a killer whose transient lifestyle created this nearly
- 2:44impenetrable jurisdictional nightmare.
- 2:46Speaker 1: For local police because he was just constantly crossing borders exactly.
- 2:49Speaker 2: And perhaps most importantly, we're going to look at the
- 2:51unyielding tenacity of grieving families, people who simply refuse to
- 2:55let the justice system file their daughters away in a
- 2:57cold case box.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Yeah, that resilience is incredible, and I want to promise
- 3:01you up front, this is a story that balances the
- 3:03absolute darkest corners of human behavior with an incredible testament
- 3:08to the human spirit.
- 3:08Speaker 2: It really challenges how you think about things.
- 3:11Speaker 1: It does by the time we finish our analysis today,
- 3:13your understanding of concepts like closure and justice. Well, it's
- 3:18going to be deeply challenged, absolutely, So let's start by
- 3:20understanding the landscape of that summer. The transcript focuses heavily
- 3:25on four specific victims and understand the void they left behind.
- 3:30We need to know who they were, So walk me
- 3:33through what happened starting in April of nineteen ninety seven.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Okay, so we begin in Friendswood, Texas with a twelve
- 3:39year old girl named Laura Smither and friends.
- 3:43Speaker 1: That's a Houston suburb, right.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's known for being very tight knit, very
- 3:47family oriented. Laura is homeschooled by her parents, Bob and
- 3:51Gay Smither, and the sources describe her as exceptionally gifted,
- 3:54particularly in dance.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Right, She was a ballerina.
- 3:57Speaker 2: She was an aspiring ballerina, and she had actually just
- 4:00achieved a major milestone. She was accepted into the Houston
- 4:03Ballet Academy.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Which requires an intense amount of discipline for a twelve
- 4:07year old. I mean, you don't get into that academy
- 4:10without being incredibly focused.
- 4:12Speaker 2: You really don't. And her mother noted that Laura was
- 4:14so focused on improving her endurance for ballet that she
- 4:17decided to start jogging, even.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Though she didn't really like running right right.
- 4:21Speaker 2: She didn't even particularly enjoy it, but she viewed it
- 4:24as necessary cross training. So on the morning of April third,
- 4:28nineteen ninety seven, which was a Thursday, she asks her
- 4:32mother if she can go for a quick run in
- 4:34their neighborhood, and.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Her mother thinks, what any parent would think in that scenario.
- 4:37I mean, it's their own neighborhoods exactly, it's daylight, it's
- 4:39a quick loop. But Laura doesn't come back.
- 4:43Speaker 2: No, she doesn't.
- 4:44Speaker 1: The transcript says her parents were out looking for her
- 4:47within ten minutes of realizing she was overdue. Like, they
- 4:51didn't wait around.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Yeah, they knew immediately something was wrong.
- 4:54Speaker 1: They check her route, nothing, They called the police, and
- 4:57the community response detailed and the sources is just it's staggering.
- 5:02Speaker 2: The scale of the search is difficult to fully conceptualize. Honestly,
- 5:05we are talking about an estimated six thousand volunteers descending
- 5:09on friends.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Would six thousand people, Yes, this.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Wasn't just a few neighbors handing out flyers. The Coast
- 5:15Guard arrived, the National Guard was deployed. Wow, the FBI
- 5:20was brought in to assist local law enforcement. People from
- 5:23all over the region essentially hit pause on their own.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Lives, just total strangers, right.
- 5:27Speaker 2: Yeah. Volunteers who had never met the Smither family were
- 5:30organizing complex search grids, coordinating helicopters, and walking shoulder to
- 5:35shoulder through dense fields and brush.
- 5:38Speaker 1: And they kept that up for seventeen days. Seventeen days
- 5:42of people holding their breath every time a phone rang.
- 5:44Speaker 2: It's agonizing.
- 5:46Speaker 1: And then there's a town hall meeting. It's packed with
- 5:49volunteers at Friendswood High School. The police chief is at
- 5:52the front of the room and his pager goes off.
- 5:55Speaker 2: Yeah. A search leader who was sitting next to the
- 5:57chief later recalled that exact moment. I saw the chief
- 6:00look down at the pager, his face completely drop, and
- 6:03he just muttered, I gotta go, oh man, And the
- 6:06entire room felt the air get sucked out.
- 6:08Speaker 1: They knew because they knew what that meant.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:10Speaker 1: A man walking his dog found Laura's body near a
- 6:14retention pond in Pasadena, Texas, which is about twelve miles
- 6:18away from where she vanished. Just twelve mile She was
- 6:21found with only a pair of sogs on The autopsy
- 6:24showed she'd been beaten and strangled twelve years old.
- 6:26Speaker 2: It's just horrific, it is.
- 6:29Speaker 1: And while Friendswood is reeling from this, the timeline in
- 6:32our sources moves forward to July fifteenth, nineteen ninety seven.
- 6:37We shift from South Texas to North Texas, Denton. Tell
- 6:41me about Kelly Cox.
- 6:43Speaker 2: So, Kelly's profile is very different from Laura's. She is
- 6:45twenty years old, a student at the University of North
- 6:48Texas UNT right. She is majoring in psychology with a
- 6:51minor in criminal justice. She's described as incredibly driven, focused
- 6:56on her academic goals. And she is also a young.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Mother, nineteen month old daughter named Alexis.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Yes, she had her life meticulously planned out. She was
- 7:06aiming to graduate with honors and pursue a master's degree.
- 7:09Speaker 1: And on July fifteenth, she is on a field trip
- 7:11with her criminology class. And the location of this field trip,
- 7:14it's a detail, just stops you.
- 7:16Speaker 2: In your tracks, it really is. She is taking the
- 7:18tour of the Denton Jail. She vanishes from the parking
- 7:21lot of a law enforcement facility in broad daylight.
- 7:24Speaker 1: It's unbelievable because the class.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Was touring the interior of the jail. The instructor had
- 7:28told the students not to bring their purses or personal
- 7:31belongings inside.
- 7:32Speaker 1: So she leaves everything in the.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Car exactly and she used that magnetic height of keybox
- 7:36we talked about earlier. She leaves her keys in the box,
- 7:39takes the tour, and comes back out to the parking lot,
- 7:42and the.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Key won't work. She walks over to a nearby pay
- 7:45phone and calls her boyfriend Eddie. Her exact words, according
- 7:49to the transcript, were, the key won't work. Right, Eddie
- 7:53says he's on his way to help her.
- 7:54Speaker 2: And the tragic part is they had tested that specific
- 7:58key the night before. Right functioned perfectly, but in that
- 8:02crucial moment, it jammed. So when Eddie arrives at the
- 8:05parking lot a short time later, Kelly's car is sitting there,
- 8:09the doors are locked.
- 8:09Speaker 1: That Kelly is completely gone.
- 8:11Speaker 2: Completely gone. Investigators later scour the area, but they never
- 8:15find the key, and they never find the magnetic box.
- 8:17Speaker 1: She's just erased from the map in the middle of
- 8:19the day and before the shock that could even settle
- 8:23the sources force us to look at another event hackening
- 8:26roughly at the exact.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Same time, literally the same day, the.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Very same day, July fifteenth, but we moved from Texas
- 8:33up to Bethany, Oklahoma, which is a suburb of Oklahoma City.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Right here we are introduced to Tiffany Johnston. She is
- 8:39nineteen years old in a newlywed She had married her
- 8:42husband Ryan just three months prior, still on the honeymoon
- 8:45phase absolutely, and they had specifically chosen to live in
- 8:49Bethany because of its reputation for safety and low crime rates.
- 8:52Tiffany is described as deeply attached to her family. Her
- 8:56mother Kathy actually called her her shadows gardening and landscaping.
- 9:02Speaker 1: So that day she works as shift at a restaurant,
- 9:04then she goes to a second job at a video store.
- 9:07She finishes up, goes home, gets cleaned up, and decides
- 9:11to wash her car before meeting Ryan to celebrate their
- 9:13three month anniversary.
- 9:14Speaker 2: And the car wash was a busy public location, it
- 9:17wasn't isolated. But that evening, when she doesn't show up
- 9:20to meet Ryan, he and her family start paging.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Her like on a physical pager, yeah pager.
- 9:24Speaker 2: They use the code nine to one one, signaling her
- 9:27to call immediately. They get no response. Around midnight, the
- 9:30Bethany police contact the family. They have found Tiffany's car
- 9:34abandoned in one of the bays at the car.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Wash, and the state of her car is so alarming.
- 9:40The doors are wide open, her floor mats are literally
- 9:43hanging on the metal clips on the brick wall, waiting
- 9:46to be sprayed.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Down right in the middle of the test exactly.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Her pager, her recently cash paycheck, her id her money.
- 9:53It's all sitting inside the open vehicle.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Which tells you immediately that whoever took her had zero
- 9:59interest in Rocker none. The cash was right there, left
- 10:01in plain sight. The vehicle was left running, or at
- 10:04least open. It paints a vivid forensic picture of a sudden, forceful,
- 10:09and highly targeted interruption, and tragically, the very next day,
- 10:13her body is discovered dumped in a ditch off Interstate
- 10:16forty near Yukon, Oklahoma, which is roughly ten miles from
- 10:19the car wash. She had been strangled, beaten, and sexually assaulted.
- 10:23Speaker 1: The summer of nineteen ninety seven just continues this horrific trajectory.
- 10:27We moved to August seventeenth, back down to the Texas
- 10:30Gulf Coast, specifically Teaky Island in Lamar, Texas. We look
- 10:33at the fourth victim in the transcript, Jessica Kane.
- 10:36Speaker 2: Jessica is seventeen years old. She is heavily involved in
- 10:39the arts and community theater. She had just finished performing
- 10:43in a production of the musical Oklahoma at the Harbor Playhouse.
- 10:46Speaker 1: So she just a high school kid.
- 10:48Speaker 2: She is on the precipice of adulthood, only a week
- 10:51away from leaving home to start her freshman year at
- 10:54sam Houston State University. Wow, her bedroom was already packed
- 10:58in boxes.
- 10:59Speaker 1: That's her breaking. So she attends a cast party at
- 11:02a Benagin's restaurant around one thirty in the morning. Her
- 11:06friend's watch her get into her pickup truck and pull
- 11:09onto the feeder road for Interstate forty five to head home,
- 11:12but she never makes it. No, her mother wakes up
- 11:14in the middle of the night, sees Jessica isn't home
- 11:16and wakes up her husband. He goes out driving her
- 11:19route and finds her pickup truck abandoned on the dark
- 11:22shoulder of Interstate forty five, and.
- 11:24Speaker 2: The scene really echoes Tiffany Johnston's disappearance. Jessica's truck is there,
- 11:28her wallet is still inside. There are no immediate signs
- 11:31of a violent struggle in the dirt or on the pavement,
- 11:33but there is no sign of Jessica. They vanish, yeah,
- 11:36and unlike the other three cases, Jessica's rains were not
- 11:39found the next day or even weeks later. She remained
- 11:42a missing person.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Listening to you detail these four scenarios, Laura on a
- 11:48morning jog, Kelly locked out of her car, Tiffany washing
- 11:51her floor, Mats, Jessica driving home from a party. Well,
- 11:55it feels less like they wandered into a dangerous situation
- 11:58and more like a trapdoor just open up under their feet.
- 12:00Speaker 2: That's exactly what it feels like.
- 12:02Speaker 1: They're doing the most remarkably ordinary things.
- 12:04Speaker 2: And the suddenness, the mundane nature of these environments is
- 12:07what makes this series of crimes so psychologically devastating to
- 12:12the public.
- 12:12Speaker 1: If it could happen to anyone exactly.
- 12:15Speaker 2: In behavioral psychology, there is a concept called the just
- 12:17world hypothesis. It is a cognitive bias that almost all
- 12:21of us carry around. It's the underlying belief that actions
- 12:25have predictable, morally appropriate consequences. It's that voice in our
- 12:29head that says you know, if I do the right things,
- 12:32if I lock my doors, if I stay in nice neighborhoods,
- 12:34if I wash my car at a busy, well lit facility,
- 12:38I will remain safe.
- 12:39Speaker 1: We tell ourselves that bad things only happen to people
- 12:42who take bad risks.
- 12:43Speaker 2: Precisely, it's a defense mechanism. If we didn't believe that
- 12:46to some extent, we'd never leave our houses.
- 12:49Speaker 1: It's true. But when a twelve year old child is
- 12:52snatched from a quiet suburban street or a mother is
- 12:55taken from the shadow of a county jail, that just
- 12:59world high apothesis completely collapses.
- 13:02Speaker 2: It shatters. The community is forced to confront the reality
- 13:06that the predator does not respect their unspoken rules right
- 13:09and what compounded the investigative difficulty in nineteen ninety seven
- 13:13was the extreme geographic spread. You have South Texas, North Texas,
- 13:18Central Oklahoma, and the Gulf Coast.
- 13:20Speaker 1: That's hundreds of miles of highway between these locations.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Right to the local detectives working in Friendswood or Bethany,
- 13:26these appeared to be singular, isolated tragedies within their own jurisdictions.
- 13:30Speaker 1: They didn't see the pattern.
- 13:31Speaker 2: They did not initially see the broader pattern because the
- 13:34geography masked the fact that they were dealing with a single,
- 13:37highly mobile individual.
- 13:39Speaker 1: I keep coming back to that idea of a moving
- 13:41trap door, like, how did police even begin to track
- 13:45an offender who can strike in one state and be
- 13:48three hundred miles away by nightfall, Especially in an era
- 13:51before you know ubiquitous cell phone location tracking and intersection cameras.
- 13:56Speaker 2: It's incredibly difficult.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Based on the transcript, the break doesn't actually come from
- 14:00forensic evidence. Initially, it comes from the sheer survival instinct
- 14:04of the women who fought back.
- 14:05Speaker 2: Yes, the entire trajectory of this twenty four year investigation
- 14:09shifts because of a few survivors. A few weeks after
- 14:12Jessica Kane vanishes, we are introduced to Sandra sappaw Right.
- 14:16She is a nineteen year old woman in Webster, Texas.
- 14:19In the early morning hours, she pulls into a convenience store,
- 14:23makes a purchase, and then drives her car across the
- 14:25street to park at a waffle house. Okay, a man
- 14:28drives his truck up next to her and asks if
- 14:30she needs help. When she looks confused, he points out
- 14:33that her tire is flat.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Which the sources identify as a stage vulnerability. He intentionally
- 14:39flattened her tire while she was inside the convenience store
- 14:41to manufacture a crisis that he could step into solve.
- 14:44Speaker 2: It is a classic predatory tactic. It lowers the victim's
- 14:48defenses because the predator is initially presenting as a good samaritan.
- 14:52Speaker 1: I'm just here to help.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Right, But the moment Sandra is out of her car
- 14:56looking at the tire, he produces a knife. He forces
- 14:59her into his truck and begins driving northbound on Interstate
- 15:03forty five.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Which is the exact same highway where Jessica Keane's truck
- 15:07was found abandoned.
- 15:08Speaker 2: Yes, the very same highway, and he orders Sandra to
- 15:10begin taking her.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Clothes off, And this is where her situational awareness just
- 15:14becomes extraordinary. She pretends to comply, leaning down as if
- 15:18to untie her shoes, and while she's hunched over, she
- 15:21notices that the passenger side door is unlocked.
- 15:23Speaker 2: You have to try and put yourself in her physiological
- 15:25state at that moment, the adrenaline, the sheer panic. She
- 15:28is trapped inside a moving vehicle with an armed man
- 15:32who has made his intentions abundantly clear. The highway pavement
- 15:36is rushing by underneath the door. She has seconds to
- 15:39make a calculation that goes against every self preservation instinct
- 15:42regarding physical injury, but she chooses.
- 15:44Speaker 1: The pavement over the predator. She opens the door and
- 15:48tries to throw herself out. He grabs her arm. The
- 15:51transcript details that she is literally dragged along the concrete
- 15:55of Interstate forty five for miles as the truck continues moving.
- 15:59Speaker 2: It's unbelieved.
- 16:00Speaker 1: She is fighting, twisting, doing everything she can to break
- 16:03his grip while her body is taking immense damage from.
- 16:06Speaker 2: The road yeah severe road rash.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Finally she breaks free. She tumbles onto the highway. She's battered, bruised,
- 16:13and severely traumatized, but she is alive.
- 16:15Speaker 2: And her decision to jump is the catalyst that eventually
- 16:18unravels the entire mystery. But the investigation immediately hits a
- 16:22roadblock regarding memory.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Right because of the trauma.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Exactly because Sandra endured such extreme, sustained terror, her conscious
- 16:31mind was overwhelmed. When the Webster police attempt to interview
- 16:35her in the hospital, she can recall very few specific
- 16:37details about the man's face or the interior.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Of his truck, which leads the investigators to use a
- 16:43technique that I find absolutely fascinating, forensic hypnosis. The Webster
- 16:48police bring in a woman named Sue dietrich Nance, who
- 16:51is a former police chief and a trained forensic hypnotist.
- 16:54Can you explain how this actually works, because I think
- 16:57a lot of people associate hypnosis with like age tricks
- 17:00or swinging pocket watches. But this is a serious investigative tool, right, It's.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Not entertainment at all. Forensic hypnosis, particularly the cognitive interview
- 17:09techniques utilized in the nineteen nineties, is entirely different from
- 17:12stage hypnosis. Okay, The underlying psychological principle is based on
- 17:16how the brain processes trauma. When a person is subjected
- 17:20to a life threatening event, the amygdala, which is the
- 17:23brain's fear center, it basically hijacks the system.
- 17:26Speaker 1: It goes into overdrives.
- 17:27Speaker 2: Yeah, the conscious mind essentially throws up heavy blast doors.
- 17:31It locks away the granular sensory details of the traumatic
- 17:34event because processing all that data in real time while
- 17:37trying to survive is simply too overwhelming.
- 17:40Speaker 1: So the brain records the information, but the witness just
- 17:43can't access it.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Exactly the sensory data like the smells, the sounds, the
- 17:48visual details of the environment. They are stored in the
- 17:51subconscious memory banks. The conscious mind, however, is too hypervigilant
- 17:56and traumatized to retrieve them. So the goal of forensic
- 17:59hypnosis is to induce a state of profound physical and
- 18:03mental relaxation. By calming that hyper aroused conscious mind, the
- 18:07hypnotist can gently guide the witness to access those subconscious
- 18:11files without triggering a panic response.
- 18:14Speaker 1: So soon Ants asks Sandra to mentally place herself back
- 18:18inside the cab with a moving truck. She asks her
- 18:20to visualize looking around the interior, and the details Sandra
- 18:24pulls from her subconscious are astonishing.
- 18:26Speaker 2: They really are.
- 18:27Speaker 1: She described the dashboard and then she focuses on the glovebox.
- 18:30She tells the hypnotist that there's a piece of paper
- 18:33resting on the glovebox with numbers written on it.
- 18:35Speaker 2: And the level of specificity is what makes forensic hypnosis
- 18:38so valuable when it works. Sandra doesn't just see a
- 18:42piece of paper. She tells Sumantz that she can only
- 18:44read four or five of.
- 18:45Speaker 1: The numbers, which is such a specific detail, right.
- 18:48Speaker 2: And why? Because there are post it notes, overlapping the paper,
- 18:52partially obscuring the rest of the digits.
- 18:55Speaker 1: That is not a detail. A traumatized brain just invents
- 18:58overlapping post notes. Soon, NaNs also hypnotizes the convenience store
- 19:04clerk who had seen the truck park next to Sandra's car,
- 19:08extracting a more detailed physical description of the driver, and this.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Leads to a critical moment of cross jurisdictional communication. A
- 19:15few weeks later, soon NaNs happens to be speaking with
- 19:18the police chief of Friendswood.
- 19:20Speaker 1: That's the department investigating the murder of twelve year old
- 19:22Lauris mother.
- 19:23Speaker 2: Yes, the friends Would chief is discussing their prime suspect,
- 19:26an individual they believe is responsible but cannot definitively link
- 19:30to the crime. He describes the man and his vehicle.
- 19:33Sue goes home and in the middle of the night,
- 19:35she wakes up with a realization it just clicks. The
- 19:38description of the Friendswood suspect perfectly aligns with the man
- 19:41Sandra Sapah described under hypnosis.
- 19:43Speaker 1: She contacts the Webster police. Immediately, they locate the suspect,
- 19:47They impound his truck, and they place him in a
- 19:49live lineup, Sandra s Paul looks through the glass and
- 19:53immediately identifies.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Him just zero hesitation.
- 19:56Speaker 1: And when the crime scene investigators search the interior of
- 19:59his truck, what do they find resting on the glovedocks.
- 20:03Speaker 2: A piece of paper with a phone number written on it,
- 20:05partially covered by overlapping post it notes, leaving exactly four
- 20:10or five digits visible. Wow, it was a perfect match
- 20:13to the subconscious memory retrieved during the hypnosis session.
- 20:16Speaker 1: The man they arrest is William Lewis Reese. The transcript
- 20:20provides a lot of background on him, and he represents
- 20:23a terrifying archetype. He isn't a social outcast living in
- 20:27a dark basement, not at all.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Reese is thirty eight years old at the time of
- 20:31his arrest. He is a heavy equipment operator and occasionally
- 20:34shoes horses, but the most critical aspect of his background
- 20:37is his profession. Right he drives a heavy duty commercial
- 20:41truck hauling a low boy trailer. Those are those massive
- 20:45flatbed trailers used to transport bulldozers, excavators, and other heavy construction.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Machinery, which means his entire life is transient. By design.
- 20:53He is paid to drive back and forth across Texas,
- 20:56crossing state lines into Oklahoma, moving massive equipment from jobs
- 21:00to job site. He has a perfectly legitimate, built in
- 21:03reason to be moving constantly along the interstate corridors.
- 21:07Speaker 2: And his criminal history is a massive red flag that
- 21:10highlights systemic failures. He was not a first time offender
- 21:13in nineteen ninety seven. Back in nineteen eighty six, Reese
- 21:16was convicted of two separate violent rapes in Oklahoma.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Okay, so he's already a known violent offender.
- 21:22Speaker 2: Yes, he was handed a twenty five year prison sentence. However,
- 21:27due to various parole guidelines and prison crowding issues prevalent
- 21:31at the time, he only served nine and a.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Half years out of twenty five.
- 21:35Speaker 2: He was released in nineteen ninety six.
- 21:37Speaker 1: He serves less than ten years for two violent sexual assaults,
- 21:40gets out, and immediately blends back into society. The investigators
- 21:45in the documentary describe him as the kind of guy
- 21:47you'd sit next to at a bar and drink a
- 21:48beer with.
- 21:49Speaker 2: Very unassuming.
- 21:50Speaker 1: He was polite to the jail guards. He offered to
- 21:52paint the jail showers so he could have access to
- 21:54warm water. He was a highly calculating manipulator who understood
- 21:58exactly how to wear the mask of normals.
- 22:00Speaker 2: There was also a second survivor mentioned in the sources.
- 22:03An unnamed twenty two year old woman was at a
- 22:06gas station in North Houston late at night. Shortly after
- 22:09pulling out, she felt her car driving strangely.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Another suspected stage flat.
- 22:14Speaker 2: Tire exactly a truck pulled up behind her. A man
- 22:19she later identified as William Reese approached her vehicle. She
- 22:23was dragged into a nearby wooded area, severely beaten, strangled,
- 22:27and sexually assaulted. She told investigators she believed he only
- 22:31stopped the attack because her body went limp and he
- 22:33assumed she was dead. She survived, escaped, and also identified
- 22:37him in a lineup.
- 22:38Speaker 1: So because of these incredible survivors, William Reese goes on
- 22:41trial in nineteen ninety eight for the kidnapping of Sandra Sapaw.
- 22:45He is convicted. The judge sentences him to sixty years
- 22:48in a Texas prison. The transcript notes that when the
- 22:51sixty year sentence was read aloud in court, Rhes stood
- 22:54there completely cold.
- 22:55Speaker 2: He didn't flinch, no reaction at all. But he is
- 22:58removed from society. The imtiate, the threat of his transient
- 23:01hunting is neutralized.
- 23:02Speaker 1: Okay, So I struggle to understand this next part, and
- 23:04I'm sure anyone listening is wondering the exact same thing.
- 23:07Speaker 2: It's the big question, right.
- 23:08Speaker 1: If William Reese is identified as a violent serial predator
- 23:12in nineteen ninety eight, if he is the prime suspect
- 23:14in Laura Smithers murder and friends would and if he
- 23:17is physically locked in a cage serving a sixty year sentence,
- 23:21how do the murders of Laura, Kelly, Tiffany and Jessica
- 23:24remain officially unsolved for almost twenty more years. Why didn't
- 23:28the system connect the dots while he was in prison?
- 23:31Speaker 2: It is arguably the most frustrating question in this entire narrative,
- 23:35but answering it requires us to look at the realities
- 23:38of law enforcement infrastructure in the late nineteen nineties. Okay, Today,
- 23:42we assume that if a person is arrested for a
- 23:44violent crime in Texas, a detective in Oklahoma can just
- 23:47type a name into a centralized database and instantly see
- 23:50his modus operandi, his vehicle descriptions, his known associates, right
- 23:54like on TV, exactly but that level of instantaneous, interconnected
- 23:59data sharing it simply did not exist in nineteen ninety seven,
- 24:01so it's.
- 24:02Speaker 1: A structural bottleneck. Databases were siloed.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Highly siloed. The National Crime Information Center or NCIC existed,
- 24:10but it was often limited to basic warrant information and
- 24:13criminal history, not the nuanced behavioral profiling required to link
- 24:18disparate cold cases. Furthermore, the burden of proof required to
- 24:22formally charge someone with capital murder is exceptionally high.
- 24:26Speaker 1: But Friendswood police knew he was a strong suspect for Laura.
- 24:30The transcript says they had eyewitnesses placing his specific truck
- 24:34in her neighborhood on the morning she fanished. They did. Furthermore,
- 24:38he was working a construction job in that very neighborhood,
- 24:41but his boss had sent him home early that day
- 24:43because of the rain. He had the opportunity, He had
- 24:46the proximity.
- 24:47Speaker 2: But proximity and opportunity are circumstantial right, They do not
- 24:50equate to a convention beyond a reasonable doubt in a
- 24:53court of law. Investigators had no physical evidence linking him
- 24:57directly to Laura's body. They didn't have his DNA on
- 24:59her and have a confession, so their hands were tied,
- 25:02and the same evidentiary hurdles existed for the other jurisdictions.
- 25:06Denton Police meticulously processed Kelly Cox's abandoned vehicle. They lifted fingerprints,
- 25:12They compared those prints to William Reese.
- 25:15Speaker 1: They found no match because he was careful.
- 25:17Speaker 2: He was highly disciplined in his forensic countermeasures. He didn't
- 25:21leave the kind of biological breadcrumbs that nineteen nineties technology
- 25:24could definitively trace. Add to that his transient profession hauling bulldozers,
- 25:30and you have absolute jurisdictional chaos.
- 25:32Speaker 1: Yes, in nightmare for detectives.
- 25:34Speaker 2: He would hunt in Dent and dump evidence miles away
- 25:37and be working a construction site in Houston the next day.
- 25:40For local detectives, it's like trying to assemble a puzzle
- 25:43when you only hold three pieces and the other pieces
- 25:45are sitting in evidence lockers in three different departments across
- 25:48two states, and.
- 25:49Speaker 1: None of those departments know the other pieces even exist exactly,
- 25:53So the investigation effectively stalls. The calendar turns. Yeah, nineteen
- 25:56ninety eight becomes two thousand, then two thousand and five,
- 25:59then two thousy ten. Reese is sitting in a Texas
- 26:02prison cell, painting walls, fixing showers, getting older. Meanwhile, four
- 26:07families are frozen in time.
- 26:08Speaker 2: Just waiting.
- 26:09Speaker 1: They have no answers. Jessica Kaine's family doesn't even have
- 26:12a body to bury. They just have an empty bedroom.
- 26:15But what William Rees didn't account for is the relentless,
- 26:19immovable force of a grieving mother. The case eventually thaws,
- 26:24and it starts in Oklahoma.
- 26:26Speaker 2: If we are discussing tenacity, we have to look at
- 26:28Kathy Debris, the mother of Tiffany Johnstone.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Oh. She is incredible.
- 26:32Speaker 2: She is described as a force of nature. She absolutely
- 26:35refused to let her daughter's murder become just another dusty
- 26:39file in an archive. She stated this mama wasn't going
- 26:42to give up.
- 26:43Speaker 1: And she didn't.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Year after year, On every single anniversary of Tiffany's disappearance,
- 26:48Kathy would mobilize. She would contact local news stations to
- 26:51keep the story in the press. She would call the
- 26:54Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation the OSBI. She would demand
- 26:58to speak to supervisors. She would add, are you getting
- 27:00any leads who is currently assigned to this case.
- 27:02Speaker 1: She became a permanent fixture in the conscience of the agency.
- 27:06She wouldn't let them look away, and finally, in twenty twelve,
- 27:09her sheer persistence yields a major result. She calls the
- 27:13new director at the OSBI, and his response is, I've
- 27:17been waiting on you. I have an agent that I'm
- 27:19going to assign to work exclusively on Tiffany's case.
- 27:22Speaker 2: And that agent is Lynn Williams. He pulls out every
- 27:25single box of physical evidence and starts building the profile
- 27:28from scratch.
- 27:29Speaker 1: As Agent Williams is meticulously reconstructing the timeline, the OSBI
- 27:33receives a tip suggesting they look closely at William Reese,
- 27:36who is serving his time in Texas. And this is
- 27:39where the documentary transcript reveals a detail so deeply disturbing
- 27:43it feels like a plot point from a thriller. It
- 27:45really does, but it is entirely factual. Kathy Daubry, the
- 27:49mother of the victim, actually knew William Reese's mother.
- 27:52Speaker 2: The proximity is just staggering. In their small Oklahoma town,
- 27:56Reese's mother took in ironing to make extra money. He
- 28:00had actually hired Reese's mother to iron her work uniforms
- 28:02to help save money to pay for Tiffany's wedding.
- 28:04Speaker 1: It's so unsettling.
- 28:06Speaker 2: The transcript states that Reese's mother even ironed the clothes
- 28:09that Tiffany was ultimately buried in.
- 28:11Speaker 1: The psychological intrusion of that detail is horrific. The mother
- 28:15of the killer is physically preparing the burial garments for
- 28:19the victim. It's awful. And it gets even more twisted.
- 28:22Cathy had been introduced to William Reese by his mother
- 28:25shortly after he was released from prison in nineteen ninety six.
- 28:29The family had completely brushed off his previous rate convictions
- 28:33as if they were minor misunderstanding.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Yeah, they downplayed it.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Then, a few days after Tiffany's murdered, while Kathy's house
- 28:40is overflowing with grieving relatives and friends, the phone rings
- 28:45and it's William Reese.
- 28:46Speaker 2: And keep in mind, at this point, he is not
- 28:48a public suspect. His name has not been connected to
- 28:51the murder in the press whatsoever.
- 28:53Speaker 1: Unprompted, he calls Kathy. He offers his condolences regarding Tiffany,
- 28:58and then explicitly tells her, I just want you to
- 29:00know I didn't do it.
- 29:00Speaker 2: It's chilling.
- 29:01Speaker 1: He claimed his mother had called him to tell him
- 29:03the news, and he just felt the need to reach
- 29:05out and deny involvement. Kathy was in such a state
- 29:09of shock from planning the funeral that the bizarre nature
- 29:12of the call didn't fully register her until much later.
- 29:15But looking back at it, well, the audacity is staggering.
- 29:18Speaker 2: It is pure malignant narcissism.
- 29:21Speaker 1: He inserted himself into the center of her grief just
- 29:23to test the waters, to gauge with the family or
- 29:26the police might.
- 29:27Speaker 2: Know exactly, and Kathy later mentioned her belief that Reese's
- 29:31mother likely suspected her son was responsible. For years, on
- 29:35the anniversary of Tiffany's death, Reese's mother would visit the
- 29:38cemetery and leave small trinkets on Tiffany's grave. Wow, when
- 29:42Reese's mother passed away, the trinkets stopped appearing. It really
- 29:46highlights the invisible, toxic connections that tethered the predator to
- 29:49the very community he preyed upon.
- 29:51Speaker 1: While the OSBI is looking hard at these connections, they
- 29:54still face the same problem they had in nineteen ninety seven.
- 29:57They need physical evidence, and this is where the passage
- 30:00of time, which had been the enemy of the investigation
- 30:02for nearly two decades finally becomes its greatest asset. We
- 30:07reached the year twenty fifteen.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Eighteen years after the murders, eighteen years of quiet exponential
- 30:13leaps in forensic science.
- 30:15Speaker 1: Agent Lynn Williams takes the physical evidence that has been
- 30:18sitting at a temperature controlled locker since nineteen ninety seven. Specifically,
- 30:22he takes the autopsy swabs collected from Tiffany's body by
- 30:25the medical examiner, and he submits them to the modern
- 30:27crime lab. Walk me through why this works in twenty
- 30:30fifteen when it failed in nineteen ninety seven, what exactly
- 30:34changed in the science.
- 30:35Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety seven, DNA profiling often relied on techniques.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Like RFLP okay, RFLP right.
- 30:41Speaker 2: And that required relatively large, pristine samples of biological material,
- 30:45like a visible pool of blood or a large amount
- 30:48of semen. If a sample was degraded by the elements,
- 30:51or if it was just microscopic trace cells transferred by touch,
- 30:54the nineteen ninety seven technology simply couldn't extract a readable profile.
- 30:58The result would come back inconclusive.
- 31:00Speaker 1: But by twenty fifteen the lab is using different methods precisely.
- 31:03Speaker 2: By twenty fifteen, forensic scientists are utilizing advanced polymerase chain
- 31:06reaction or PCR, combined with short ten and repeat analysis.
- 31:10Speaker 1: Okay, PCR, I've heard of that.
- 31:12Speaker 2: Yeah. PCR acts like a molecular photocopier. It allows scientists
- 31:16to take a heavily degraded microscopic fragment of DNA, perhaps
- 31:20just a few skin cells left behind during a struggle,
- 31:23and amplify it millions of times until they have a
- 31:25sample large enough to test.
- 31:26Speaker 1: That's incredible.
- 31:27Speaker 2: When the OSBI lab applied these modern techniques to the
- 31:30nineteen ninety seven autopsy swabs, they isolated a clear male
- 31:34DNA profile.
- 31:36Speaker 1: They run that profile, and they get a definitive match
- 31:38to William lws Ree's. The science finally anchors him to
- 31:42the scene of the crime. The biological truth of what
- 31:44happened in that horse trailer is undeniable, and.
- 31:47Speaker 2: The beauty of this investigation is the synergy. While the
- 31:50OSBI is cracking the genetic code in Oklahoma, detectives in
- 31:53Texas are simultaneously tearing apart the physical paper.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Trail, which is such a contrast.
- 31:58Speaker 2: It is friends with police led by their own cold
- 32:01case reviewers are reevaluating Lauras mothers case. They open up
- 32:05a box of evidence that was gathered during a consent
- 32:07surge of Reese's truck and residence way back in nineteen
- 32:10ninety seven.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Inside that box they find his physical telephone calling card records. Now,
- 32:16how did the calling card actually function back then, because
- 32:19it's crucial to how they track him.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Before cell phones were ubiquitous, if you were a transient
- 32:24worker like Reese, and you needed to make a call
- 32:27from the road, you used a plastic calling card issued
- 32:30by your telecom company. It functioned essentially like a credit card.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Right, You'd punch in the numbers at a.
- 32:35Speaker 2: Payphone exactly, you pick up a public payphone, dial a
- 32:38toll free routing number, punch in your unique account pin,
- 32:42and then dial your destination number. The telecom company would
- 32:46then bild the cost of that call to your home
- 32:48phone account.
- 32:49Speaker 1: It was a convenience system, but for a serial killer
- 32:52trying to remain a ghost, it was a massive vulnerability
- 32:56because the phone company log the exact time, the duration,
- 33:00and the precise physical location of the payphone every single
- 33:04time that peon was entered.
- 33:06Speaker 2: Friends would police examine these dusty, eighteen year old paper records,
- 33:10and they literally map his hunting route across the country.
- 33:13Speaker 1: This is like a GPS track. I made it paper.
- 33:15Speaker 2: Yeah. The phone company's routing data shows Reese using public
- 33:18payphones in Oklahoma the day before Tiffany Johnston vanishes, placing
- 33:22him squarely in the vicinity of her abduction. Then the
- 33:25very next day, the records track his pin being used
- 33:28at payphones, moving rapidly south along the interstate back into Texas.
- 33:32Speaker 1: It is the ultimate fusion of investigative eras you have
- 33:36advanced space age DNA profiling locking down the biological reality
- 33:41on a microscopic level, and simultaneously you have detectives manually
- 33:45tracing a route using a dusty box of nineteen nineties
- 33:48payphone receipts to prove his physical geographic movements.
- 33:52Speaker 2: The trap finally snaps shut in.
- 33:54Speaker 1: September twenty fifteen, the state of Oklahoma officially charges William
- 33:58Reese with the kidnapping and murder of Tiffany Johnston, and
- 34:01because of his prior felony convictions in the extreme brutality
- 34:04of the crime, Oklahoma prosecutors announced they are seeking the
- 34:07death penalty.
- 34:08Speaker 2: That single legal strategy, putting the needle on the table
- 34:11changes the entire psychological dynamic of the case. For twenty years,
- 34:14Rees operated with the belief that he was in complete control,
- 34:17But when he realizes that Oklahoma intends to execute him,
- 34:21his primary instinct shifts to self preservation. He is sitting
- 34:24in his Texas prison cell and he decides to use
- 34:27the only leverage he has left to negotiate his way
- 34:30off death row.
- 34:31Speaker 1: His leverage is the location of the bodies and the
- 34:33unclosed cases. In February twenty sixteen, Texas Ranger James Holland
- 34:38visits Reese at the Huntsville Prison. The transcript describes this
- 34:42encounter perfectly. Ranger Holland doesn't walk in and start interrogating him.
- 34:46Speaker 2: No, he's very strategic.
- 34:47Speaker 1: He walks into the interview room, sits down at the table,
- 34:49and remains completely silent. He simply lays four photographs face
- 34:53up on the table Laura Smither, Kelly Cox, Tiffany Johnston,
- 34:58Jessica Kane. Holland looks at Reas and says, Bill, if
- 35:00you want to help yourself, I need to know who
- 35:02I need to go talk to, meaning which district attorneys
- 35:05do I need to contact to arrange a plea deal
- 35:07for you.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Reese's physical reaction to those photographs is incredibly revealing. He
- 35:12doesn't point to one or two of them. He places
- 35:14his hand completely over all four photographs.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Wow.
- 35:18Speaker 2: Ranger Holland asks him to clarify, what does that mean?
- 35:21And Reee simply replies all of them, all of them
- 35:24in a single gesture. He acknowledges responsibility for two decades
- 35:29of unimaginable agony.
- 35:31Speaker 1: Reese agrees to cooperate and lead investigators to the remains
- 35:34of the girls who were never found. He is temporarily
- 35:37transferred out of prison into the custody of the Friendswood
- 35:40City Jail. He directs a massive convoy of law enforcement
- 35:45to Brazoria County, Texas, to an open field where he
- 35:48claims he buried Kelly Cox. They bring in excavators, they
- 35:52start digging massive trenches. Days go by and they find
- 35:55absolutely nothing.
- 35:56Speaker 2: And you can imagine what the police are thinking.
- 35:58Speaker 1: Right. Investigators begin to suspect he is playing a psychological
- 36:02game just to get a change of scenery from his cell.
- 36:04Speaker 2: However, one investigator noted that Reese appeared genuinely anxious when
- 36:08the excavations turned up empty. He wasn't smirking, He wasn't
- 36:11enjoying it. No, he needed the police to find those
- 36:14bodies because producing the remains was the currency he needed
- 36:17to buy his way out of a lethal injection.
- 36:19Speaker 1: So they pivot the search. Reese gives them a second location,
- 36:23a massive field in southeast Houston near Hobby Airport, where
- 36:27he says he buried Jessica Kane. They move the heavy equipment.
- 36:31Reese is standing out in the Texas heat and shackles
- 36:34watching the excavators dig. They tear down an old barn.
- 36:37They go seven feet deep, Still nothing.
- 36:40Speaker 2: And the tension is just building.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Re starts getting visibly frustrated. He looks at the search
- 36:45grid map, curses and tells the detective they're wasting their time.
- 36:50He points toward a specific fence line and says, look,
- 36:53I could not have driven my bulldozer through that fence
- 36:55line if I wanted to.
- 36:56Speaker 2: And that spontaneous complaint is the slip of the tongue
- 36:59that breaks the search up. Really, yes, The investigator looks
- 37:02at the fence line Reese's pointing to and realizes it
- 37:05is incredibly flimsy. A bulldozer could easily drive right through it.
- 37:09The investigator instantly understands the cognitive error Reese's making. His
- 37:13memory is overlaying the current landscape with the landscape as
- 37:16it existed in nineteen ninety seven.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's looking at the wrong fence.
- 37:20Speaker 2: He is looking at the wrong fence line.
- 37:22Speaker 1: They adjust the entire search grid based on that slip up.
- 37:25They dig for a couple more hours, and they finally
- 37:28unearthed the remains of Jessica Kane. One of the investigators
- 37:32looked up at the sky and felt a profound sense
- 37:35of relief. He actually turned to William Reese and said thank.
- 37:39Speaker 2: You, and Reese's reaction Reese.
- 37:41Speaker 1: Just stared back with a dead, emotionless expression. A week later,
- 37:47they returned to the first site in Brasoria County, expand
- 37:50their parameters, and they find the remains of Kelly Cox.
- 37:53The definitive confirmation at the site was finding her gold
- 37:56rope bracelet mixed in the dirt.
- 37:58Speaker 2: Bringing those young women home was a monumental logistical achievement
- 38:02and a necessary agonizing step toward reality for the families.
- 38:05But as the legal proceedings move forward, the transcript gives
- 38:08us access to the audio recordings of Riese's confessions to
- 38:11Ranger Holland as a psychological profile. Listening to his explanations
- 38:14is profoundly disturbing.
- 38:16Speaker 1: The narcissism on display in those tapes is off the charts.
- 38:20He gives what you could call a half confession. He
- 38:23admits that the women are dead, and he admits that
- 38:25his hands cause their deaths, but he heavily sanitizes the
- 38:29sequence of events to frame himself as a victim of circumstance.
- 38:33Speaker 2: He takes no real accountability none.
- 38:36Speaker 1: He completely denies committing sexual assault against any of the
- 38:38Texas victims, claiming he only assaulted Tiffany. And listen to
- 38:42how he describes the murders themselves.
- 38:44Speaker 2: He projects the instigation of violence entirely onto the victims.
- 38:48In the case of Kelly Cox, he tells Ranger Holland
- 38:51that he was at a grocery store, opened to truck
- 38:53door too fast and accidentally bumped into her, causing her
- 38:56to spill a soda.
- 38:57Speaker 1: A spilled soda.
- 38:58Speaker 2: He claims that Kelly, a young mother and psychology student,
- 39:01became enraged, started cursing at him, and hit him with
- 39:04a plastic bottle, which caused him to quote unquote, snap.
- 39:07Speaker 1: It's absurd and with Jessica Kane. He claims he was
- 39:11eating at Bennegin's, heard people arguing in the parking lot,
- 39:14and that Jessica supposedly slammed her car door into his jeep.
- 39:19He claims they got into a shouting match, she flipped
- 39:22him off, he drove away onto Interstate forty five, and
- 39:25this seventeen year old high school girl supposedly tailed his
- 39:28massive truck, pulled over behind him on a dark highway,
- 39:31and got out to continue yelling at him, and that's
- 39:34when he struck her.
- 39:35Speaker 2: And his narrative regarding Tiffany Johnston is equally detached from reality.
- 39:40He claimed he accidentally sprayed her with water at the
- 39:42car wash, she yelled at him, they got into a
- 39:44physical altercation inside his horse trailer, and then inexplicably, she
- 39:48initiated consensual sex for suddenly hitting him in the head
- 39:51with a heavy iron horseshoe, which forced him to strangle
- 39:54her in self defense.
- 39:55Speaker 1: What goes wrong in a human brain to construct a
- 39:58narrative like that? I mean, he's confised to murder, so
- 40:00he knows he's caught. Why lie about this? Build soda
- 40:03in the horseshoe?
- 40:04Speaker 2: What you are hearing in those interrogation tapes. Is the
- 40:06core architecture of psychopathy mixed with malignant narcissism. Even when
- 40:12he is completely cornered, even when he is actively attempting
- 40:15to negotiate for his own life, he is psychologically incapable
- 40:20of accepting full, unvarnished culpability.
- 40:22Speaker 1: He have to be the victim.
- 40:23Speaker 2: He must construct a scenario where the victim provoked the violence.
- 40:27He has to convince himself and the detective that the
- 40:31victim initiated the conflict. It is a deeply warped defense
- 40:35mechanism designed to preserve his internal self image. He cannot
- 40:39admit that he stalked and hunted them like prey.
- 40:42Speaker 1: He minimizes the predatory nature exactly.
- 40:44Speaker 2: He reframes cold blooded, calculated murder as an unfortunate escalation
- 40:48of a mutual misunderstanding.
- 40:50Speaker 1: It's all about maintaining control over the narrative. The most
- 40:53terrifying moment for me in the entire transcript occurred out
- 40:56in the field while they were digging for Jessica. One
- 40:59of the civilian searchers looked at Reese, who was surrounded
- 41:01by police and heavy machinery, and asked him a very
- 41:03human question. He asked, William, what is going on in
- 41:07your mind right now? Do you have any remorse? And
- 41:11Reese looked him dead in the eyes and said, in
- 41:13a perfectly flat conversational tone, mister, you probably won't understand this,
- 41:18but people like us, we don't have remorse.
- 41:20Speaker 2: That statement encapsulates the clinical reality of a psychopath.
- 41:24Speaker 1: That quote just stops you in your tracks because society
- 41:28operates under the baseline assumption that deep down everybody has
- 41:32a conscience. We believe that if you do something horrific,
- 41:35the guilt will eventually eat away at you. We assume
- 41:38there is a moral floor that everyone eventually hits for him,
- 41:41But Reese is explicitly stating that the floor does not
- 41:44exist for him. He's fundamentally wired differently. He feels absolutely
- 41:48nothing for the lives he extinguished or the families he destroyed.
- 41:52To him, they were just objects that caused a temporary inconvenience.
- 41:55Speaker 2: It's chilling.
- 41:56Speaker 1: It is terrifying because it forces us to accept that
- 41:59monsters aren't hiding in the shadows. They're wearing work boots
- 42:01and drinking beer at the end of the lark.
- 42:03Speaker 2: And that complete absence of remorse is precisely why the
- 42:06state of Oklahoma refused to play his game. While Reese
- 42:10was confessing in Texas, desperately hoping to secure a global
- 42:14plea deal that would guarantee life in prison, the Oklahoma
- 42:17County District attorney flat out refused to negotiated. They wanted
- 42:21a trial for the murder of Tiffany Johnston. They wanted
- 42:24a jury of his peers to hear the evidence. But
- 42:27the judicial process is excruciatingly slow.
- 42:30Speaker 1: Yeah, it took five long years to finally get him
- 42:32into an Oklahoma courtroom.
- 42:33Speaker 2: They cycled through six different judges, He went through five
- 42:37defense attorneys, one of whom quit just a week before
- 42:40the trial was scheduled to begin. Then the COVID nineteen
- 42:43pandemic shut down the court systems, delaying the process even further.
- 42:47Speaker 1: For five years, Reese sat in the Oklahoma County jail
- 42:50awaiting trial, and incredibly, during that time, he managed to
- 42:54manipulate the system to get himself assigned to the medical
- 42:57floor as a trustee.
- 42:58Speaker 2: Wow.
- 42:59Speaker 1: This was a privileged position that allowed him to be
- 43:01out of his cell, walk the floor, and socialized with
- 43:04staff and other inmates. He absolutely hated the idea of
- 43:07solitary confinement. He wanted to be comfortable.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Finally, in May of twenty twenty one, the capital murder
- 43:13trial begins, and this is where the prosecution utilizes a
- 43:17highly specific and fascinating facet of Oklahoma law to completely
- 43:21dismantle Reese's sanitize she provoked me defense narrative.
- 43:26Speaker 1: Explain how this legal loophole works, because it seems to
- 43:29be the lynchpin of the prosecution's strategy.
- 43:32Speaker 2: In the vast majority of jurisdictions across the United States,
- 43:35a criminal trial is bifurcated into two phases. You have
- 43:39the guilt innocence phase and the penalty phase. Right during
- 43:42the guilt innocence phase, when the jury is strictly deciding
- 43:46if the defendant committed the crime in question, prosecutors are
- 43:49generally prohibited from introducing evidence of the defendant's prior unrelated crimes.
- 43:53The legal reasoning is that you do not want a
- 43:56jury convicting a man of murder simply because they hear
- 43:58he was a terrible person who committed assaults ten years ago.
- 44:06Speaker 1: That's the specific crime.
- 44:07Speaker 2: You saved the prior bad acts for the penalty phase
- 44:10to argue for a harsher sentence.
- 44:12Speaker 1: But Oklahoma law provides an exception.
- 44:14Speaker 2: Yes, Oklahoma has a legal provision that allows prosecutors to
- 44:17introduce testimony about previous similar crimes during the guilt innocence phase,
- 44:22specifically if that evidence establishes a clear pattern of predatory behavior, intent,
- 44:27or a signature modus operandi.
- 44:29Speaker 1: And the prosecution used that provision to its absolute maximum
- 44:32effect for eight days. They paraded a steady stream of
- 44:36survivors and grieving family members before the jury. The women
- 44:39who had survived his violent raves back in nineteen eighty
- 44:42six took the stand. Sandra seppaal who jumped out of
- 44:45his moving truck in the interstate, testified that had to.
- 44:48Speaker 2: Be incredibly powerful.
- 44:49Speaker 1: The families of Laura, Kelly, and Jessica sat in the gallery.
- 44:53The jury listened to hours of the interrogation tapes. They
- 44:56saw exactly how we operated across two decades. It completely
- 44:59destroyed his defense that Tiffany hitting him with a horseshoe
- 45:02caused an accidental death. The jury saw the calculated, repetitive,
- 45:05cold blooded nature of his hunting.
- 45:07Speaker 2: One of the family members noted the incredible courage it
- 45:09took for the survivors to testify. Reliving that trauma on
- 45:13a public stand facing the man who tried to kill
- 45:15them is agonizing, but the survivors explicitly stated they did
- 45:20it for Laura. They did it for Kelly, Tiffany and Jessica,
- 45:24the women who could no longer speak for themselves.
- 45:26Speaker 1: The strategy worked flawlessly. After three and a half weeks
- 45:30of trial, featuring over twenty witnesses, the jury retired to deliberate.
- 45:35The prosecution warned the families to brace themselves, suggesting it
- 45:38might take five or six hours to reach a verdict
- 45:40in a complex capital case. The families walked outside to
- 45:44get some fresh air.
- 45:45Speaker 2: But they didn't have to wait that long, did they.
- 45:48Speaker 1: Less than an hour later, their phone started ringing frantically.
- 45:51The jury was already back less than an hour, guilty
- 45:54on all counts.
- 45:55Speaker 2: The brevity of that deliberation speaks volumes about the overwhelming
- 45:58weight of the forensic and behave evidence. Shortly after the
- 46:02guilty verdict, the jury recommended the death penalty. In August
- 46:06twenty twenty one, William Lewis Reese was formally sentenced to
- 46:09death by lethal injection by the state of Oklahoma. He
- 46:13was transported to the State Penitentiary in McAllister, where he
- 46:16now spends twenty two hours a day locked in a
- 46:19solitary cell on death row.
- 46:21Speaker 1: His trustee privileges are.
- 46:22Speaker 2: Gone, gone, socializing is over.
- 46:24Speaker 1: The families finally got the verdict they had fought for,
- 46:27but the concept of closure is largely a myth. The
- 46:31trial ends, the galle falls, the cameras pack up, but
- 46:34the void left by these women remains. Yet what is
- 46:37so profoundly moving about the end of this transcript is
- 46:40how these families chose to fill that void. It's inspiring
- 46:43look at the legacy they built. Consider Kelly Cox's daughter, Alexis.
- 46:47She was nineteen months old when her mother was taken.
- 46:49She was raised by her grandparents. She actually ended up
- 46:52attending the University of North Texas, the exact same campus
- 46:54where mother vanished.
- 46:55Speaker 2: Alexis's journey is a testament to incredible fortitude. When the
- 46:59truth finally came out in twenty sixteen, when Reese confessed
- 47:03and they recovered Kelly's remains, Alexis was twenty years old.
- 47:07She was the exact same age her mother was when
- 47:09she was murdered.
- 47:10Speaker 1: That has to be so heavy to process.
- 47:12Speaker 2: The revelation triggered a severe mental health crisis for her.
- 47:16It shattered her understanding of her own history, but she
- 47:19fought her way through that trauma with intensive therapy, and
- 47:22today she is a vocal advocate for mental health awareness.
- 47:25She refuses to let William Reese's darkness serve as the
- 47:28defining narrative of her.
- 47:29Speaker 1: Life and look at Laura Smithers's parents, Bob and Gay.
- 47:33The sheer scale of the community response to Laura's disappearance
- 47:37inspired them to found the Laura Recovery Center. It is
- 47:40a nonprofit organization dedicated to preventing child abductions and organizing massive,
- 47:45highly efficient community searches for missing children.
- 47:48Speaker 2: They turn their pain into action.
- 47:50Speaker 1: The specific protocols developed in the crucible of searching for
- 47:53Laura fundamentally changed how law enforcement agencies nationally respond to
- 47:57missing children cases. During those critical early.
- 48:00Speaker 2: Hours, they took their grief and institutionalized it. They created
- 48:04a permanent, systemic shield for other families, and there are quieter,
- 48:09deeply personal legacies detailed in the sources as well. Michael Barker,
- 48:14who served as a volunteer director at the Laura Recovery Center,
- 48:18felt compelled to help search for Jessica Kane. He spent
- 48:21years pouring over Jessica's personal writings and journals, desperately looking
- 48:25for any clue regarding her state of mind.
- 48:28Speaker 1: This detail gave me absolute chills. Michael reads an entry
- 48:32Jessica wrote less than two weeks before she disappeared. She
- 48:35was writing about sitting at a table looking at candlelight,
- 48:38and she described having a vision of horses, country crows,
- 48:41and being alone.
- 48:42Speaker 2: It's incredibly eerie.
- 48:43Speaker 1: Less than two weeks later, she is murdered and buried
- 48:46by a man who shoot horses for a living in
- 48:48an isolated rural pasture, where she remained alone in the
- 48:51dirt for nineteen years.
- 48:53Speaker 2: That passage haunted Michael Barker so deeply that he started
- 48:57waking up in the middle of the night with those
- 48:58words echoing in his head. He eventually channeled that profound
- 49:02emotional connection into songwriting. He wrote a song using those
- 49:06exact words, horses, country crows, and being alone. It became
- 49:11his method of processing the immense secondary trauma associated with
- 49:15the search.
- 49:16Speaker 1: When we step back and look at the entirety of
- 49:18this twenty four year nightmare, what does it all mean?
- 49:21Speaker 2: It means that while the predator's singular goal was destruction, anonymity,
- 49:24and control, he ultimately failed to extinguish the light of
- 49:27the women he targeted. The families alchemized their unimaginable, paralyzing
- 49:32grief into systemic protection for others. Absolutely through nonprofit foundations,
- 49:37through mental health advocacy, through relentless decades long pressure on
- 49:41the justice system, they ensured that Laura, Kelly, Tiffany, and
- 49:45Jessica are remembered not just for the darkness of their
- 49:47final moments, but for the profound, lasting impact they had
- 49:51on the world. They forced the forensic and legal systems
- 49:54to evolve.
- 49:55Speaker 1: We have covered a massive amount of ground today. We
- 49:58explored how forarenic hypnosis, I pass a traumatized conscious mind
- 50:02to unlock a subconscious memory of overlapping post it notes.
- 50:06We analyzed how the evolution of DNA extraction techniques finally
- 50:10caught up to degraded biological evidence left behind in a
- 50:13nineteen ninety seven horse trailer.
- 50:15Speaker 2: It's amazing science.
- 50:16Speaker 1: We saw how dusty telecom records mapped a killer's route
- 50:19across state lines, and we witness the relentless, unyielding advocacy
- 50:23of mothers like Kathy Doughbry, who simply refused to let
- 50:27her daughter be forgotten. It took a convergence of all
- 50:30these elements to finally put William Lewis Reese in the cage.
- 50:33Speaker 2: He is currently sitting on death row in Oklahoma pursuing
- 50:36his standard appeals, but the state of Texas still holds
- 50:40pending murder charges against him. For Laura, Kelly and Jessica,
- 50:43those jurisdictions are waiting, holding those charges like an insurance
- 50:47policy to ensure that no matter what happens in the
- 50:48appellate courts, he never walks free again.
- 50:51Speaker 1: If there is one practical, everyday takeaway from the families
- 50:55who endured this ordeal, it is the vital importance of
- 50:59situation awareness. Kelly Cox's mother articulated it perfectly. She wants
- 51:04people to look at the memorial dedicated to Kelly on
- 51:07the university campus, realize that she was taken in broad
- 51:10daylight near a police station, and understand the danger does
- 51:13not always look dangerous. Live your life to the absolute fullest,
- 51:17but stay aware, keep your head on a swivel. Yeah,
- 51:20trust your instincts.
- 51:21Speaker 2: And if I can leave you with one final, perhaps
- 51:24haunting concept to consider as you go about your week.
- 51:27When you examine the mechanics of these four crimes, the
- 51:30terrifying role of sheer random chance becomes unavoidable.
- 51:34Speaker 1: Oh definitely, think about.
- 51:36Speaker 2: The intersection of predator and prey in this narrative. Think
- 51:39about the magnetic high a key that functioned perfectly for
- 51:41Kelly Cox on a Monday night, but inexplicably jammed on
- 51:44the afternoon of July fifteenth, stranding her in that parking
- 51:48lot at the exact moment William Reese was hunting. Think
- 51:51about the morning rain shower in Friendswood that caused Reese's
- 51:54construction boss to send him home early, putting his heavy
- 51:57truck in Laura Smithers's quiet neighborhood at the exact hour
- 52:01she decided to go for an uncharacteristic job to improve
- 52:04her ballet endurance.
- 52:06Speaker 1: It is a matter of minutes, sometimes just seconds.
- 52:09Speaker 2: It makes you wonder about the trajectory of your own life.
- 52:12How many miner seemingly inconsequential inconveniences. A misplaced set of
- 52:17car keys getting stuck behind a slow driver, A sudden
- 52:21rain shower that delays your exit from a building by
- 52:24five minutes. How many of those tiny, frustrating events have
- 52:28slightly altered your timeline on any given day, keeping you
- 52:31entirely out of the path of someone else's darkness.
- 52:34Speaker 1: It's a profound reminder.
- 52:35Speaker 2: It's a reminder of the invisible near misses we navigate
- 52:38every single day, completely unaware of the trap doors that
- 52:41were just inches from opening beneath our feet.
- 52:43Speaker 1: The next time I can't get my key to turn
- 52:45in the walk, I don't think I'm going to complain.
- 52:48Thank you for taking this deep dive with us. Stay
- 52:50safe out there.