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DEEP CUTS ON D4VD'S LIPS CAUGHT ON CAMERA: ADMITS PREGNANCY · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Bombshell. Tonight, deep cuts on D four VD aka David
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Speaker 1: Anthony Burke's lips caught on camera. We believe those cuts
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Speaker 1: were shortly after Celeste's murder, and tonight does D four
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Speaker 1: v D unwittingly admit Celeste was pregnant at the time
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Speaker 1: she was murdered. Good evening, I Nancy Grace, this is
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Speaker 1: crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Celeste Reevas is talking to her friend about running away
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Speaker 2: because she's pregnant.
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Speaker 3: Nancy, what I see is a little girl who imagines
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Speaker 3: she has a true relationship with a much older man.
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Speaker 2: April twenty third, that's when investigators say D four VD
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Speaker 2: killed Celeste Reeves.
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Speaker 3: This is a twenty year old man who's not gonna
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Speaker 3: let anything stand between him and his career.
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Speaker 1: As we go to air tonight, we uncover deep cuts
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Speaker 1: on D four d's mouth and lips. We believe just
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Speaker 1: after Celeste is murdered. Also tonight was her murder. More
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Speaker 1: of a two man job. Is a state looking at
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Speaker 1: a code defendant. This as a preliminary hearing set to
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Speaker 1: go down. What's gonna happen? We think we know, but
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Speaker 1: first to the cuts on his lips. First of all,
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Speaker 1: let's look at it control room, let's just talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Let's show it. It's on video. Okay, there you go.
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Speaker 1: Ow And what what is on his shoe? It looks
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Speaker 1: like blood? Okay, right at the get go straight out
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Speaker 1: to Joseph Scott Morgan, Forensics, Jacksonville State University. He is
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Speaker 1: the author of Blood Beneath My Feet. He's the star
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Speaker 1: of a hit podcast, Body Bags with Joe Scott Morgan.
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Speaker 1: But more importantly, he is a death investigator that has
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Speaker 1: investigated over ten thousand death scenes equaling ten thousand plus
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Speaker 1: dead bodies. The lips are extremely How do you say
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Speaker 1: when you talk about having a lot of blood vessels?
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Speaker 1: What do you call that? Joe Scott?
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Speaker 4: Oh, it's very vascular. There's a very vascular.
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Speaker 1: Yes, like your nose, your eyes, your lips. They seem
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Speaker 1: to bleed a lot more than if you cut your arm,
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Speaker 1: and it won't go away. If you keep hitting it.
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Speaker 1: It seems to make it worse. That is, right after
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Speaker 1: Celeste was murdered, and if the two are connected, how
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Speaker 1: badly do you think he wanted that to heal up
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Speaker 1: and go away.
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Speaker 4: Well, if he's demonstrating it, I can't imagine he wanted
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Speaker 4: it to heal up. That's that's the odd piece to this,
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Speaker 4: because that's fresh, Nancy, That's not something that has been
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Speaker 4: there for a long long time. And the problem is
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Speaker 4: is that in that image it is an insult. Okay,
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Speaker 4: but we can't tell. What I'd be very interested to
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Speaker 4: know is what's the nature of the injury itself. Is
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Speaker 4: it shaped like a fingernail? You know how our fingernails
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Speaker 4: are curved? You know where I'm going with this, like
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Speaker 4: almost someone trying to defend themselves striking at a particular
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Speaker 4: assailant here. Or is it a blunt force taped to
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Speaker 4: the lip or is this just something that maybe he
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Speaker 4: manufactured and put on his lips for the purposes of
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Speaker 4: shock value.
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Speaker 1: Joscott, I'm going to talk to you about something you
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Speaker 1: just said. Fingernail marks. Yeah, I'm sure you have, because
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Speaker 1: I have and I'm sure you have in a strangulation case.
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Speaker 1: And I believe this. We exhibited it on the slides
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Speaker 1: of Ellen Greenberg's Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Neck, Yes, we need.
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Speaker 1: Often see fingernail marks like half moons. But with the
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Speaker 1: lip you can see that because the neck or other
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Speaker 1: body parts, arms, legs, you can see a print better
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Speaker 1: with the lips, not as much as like biting into jello,
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Speaker 1: you can't. You can't really get a print as well
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Speaker 1: on the lips. If she read at him and that
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Speaker 1: is in fact a fingernail mark, a scratch, it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be a lot harder to have assessed that on the
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Speaker 1: lip as opposed to on the neck, where you and
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Speaker 1: I have seen them routinely made those crangulation cases.
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Speaker 4: So if you think about the skins as the top
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Speaker 4: of a drum, okay, a drum has what's called a
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Speaker 4: lot of surface tension. If you think about the skin
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Speaker 4: over our neck, more surface tension here in the lips,
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Speaker 4: because they're they're very fatty, right, you don't have as
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Speaker 4: much surface tension. So when you look at that, any
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Speaker 4: kind of insult to the lip, it's harder to interpret
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Speaker 4: this than it is to where the skin is more
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Speaker 4: stretched out, okay, where there is surface tension. So that wound,
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Speaker 4: for our purposes would have to be cleaned and then
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Speaker 4: you would have to observe it. But still, if this
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Speaker 4: was generated as a result of a fingernail mark, you
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Speaker 4: could actually take it. And what we'll do with an
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Speaker 4: injury is press it close together and you can make
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Speaker 4: out the signature left behind. And again I ask all
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Speaker 4: of our friends out there watching, look down the long
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Speaker 4: axis of your finger, okay, and if you look at
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Speaker 4: the leading edge of your fingernail, you'll notice that it's curved.
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Speaker 4: So these things look like half moon shapes almost.
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Speaker 1: J Scott, I just said that, go ahead, steal my thunder.
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Speaker 1: I don't care. You're absolutely right. And I want to
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Speaker 1: follow up on something you said at the get go.
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Speaker 1: You had mentioned when we were talking about theatrics, like
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Speaker 1: what does this mean if anything, to dfour VD to
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall. That is not Joscott Morgan or my Baillywick.
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Speaker 1: That's on you. Doctor Bethany Marshall is joining us. She's
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Speaker 1: a renowned psychoanalyst out of Beverly Hills Jurisdiction, but she
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Speaker 1: does not limit her practice to Rodeo Drive Rodeo Rodeo Drive.
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Speaker 1: She is the star of a brand new podcast, on
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Speaker 1: the Couch with a Doctor Bethany. She's the author of
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Speaker 1: deal Breaker. You can see her now on Peacock and
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Speaker 1: Bravo and find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, we have a prior girlfriend who I believe
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Speaker 1: was also at the underage at the time, she was
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Speaker 1: dating D four v D aka David Anthony Burke, who
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Speaker 1: says he thought he was above the law and many
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Speaker 1: other things. I don't think he cared if Celeste had
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Speaker 1: scratched his face, had made that mark on his lips.
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Speaker 1: I mean that night, and I'm gonna go to Dave
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Speaker 1: mac in a moment, I'll back up for this. That
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Speaker 1: night after she was murdered, he's out doing a PR party.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't care. Hey, Control room, can you dig up
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Speaker 1: really quickly? Him out? That night at a PR party
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Speaker 1: after he ordered celest up like a pizza, got her
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Speaker 1: an uber there he is. Do you think he cared
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Speaker 1: about going on camera with his lip still bloody and
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Speaker 1: re opened as a wound. I don't think he cared, Nancy.
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Speaker 3: I think he was happy. I think he glorifies death.
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Speaker 3: He began to feel sort of elated and like all
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Speaker 3: the responsibility of this underage girl is away. Probably they
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Speaker 3: may have had some kind of fight, something was going
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Speaker 3: on with her where she had more needs as girls
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Speaker 3: and women do. And I don't see a fingernail mark.
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Speaker 3: I see a bite mark now, I'm not Joe Scott Morgan.
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Speaker 3: I'm not a death scene investigator, but I am as
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Speaker 3: a psychoanalyst. I think that he death, sex, eroticism, all
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Speaker 3: of those things were fused together in his mind, so
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Speaker 3: it could be that they were having sex, he was
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Speaker 3: making out.
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Speaker 1: She bit him. Okay, yeah, I see where you're going
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Speaker 1: with that, Bethany. But to you, Dave matt and joining
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Speaker 1: me crime stories, investigative report, Let's get our timeline straight here.
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Speaker 1: He ordered her up like a pizza on aber ET's. Okay,
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Speaker 1: he paid for her to come to his home the
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Speaker 1: night she was murdered. There is plenty of evidence supporting this.
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Speaker 1: That is, the night she was murdered, she was threatening
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Speaker 1: to expose their relationship in a few moments. You know what,
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Speaker 1: Let's don't wait, so show the screen grab now where
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Speaker 1: D four VD seemingly admits that Celeste was pregnant. Okay,
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Speaker 1: can we pull that up. So what I'm saying is
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Speaker 1: I don't think the injury, the deep cut to his lip,
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Speaker 1: was from a makeout session. There you go. I'll join
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Speaker 1: the group chat with wifey and give y all the
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Speaker 1: story time. What should I name my kid? Guys? H Okay,
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Speaker 1: there you go from D four VD. So what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: Dave Mac is I don't think that was a love bite.
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Speaker 1: Immediately he's on making the videos, putting out insta, putting
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Speaker 1: out TikTok, with a bloody injury to his lip, right
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Speaker 1: after Celeste is killed, just like he went to the party,
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Speaker 1: just like he was pushing his tour, He did not care.
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Speaker 1: What's so hard for anybody to understand about that? We
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Speaker 1: can't relate to it, but the time line proves it.
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Speaker 1: Fat our information is correct. That's not a love bite,
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Speaker 1: that's an injury. Give me the times, give me the date, right, Nancy.
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Speaker 2: April twenty third is the key date here. That's where,
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, you know, he orders Celestev like a pizza.
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Speaker 2: He orders her from her home with her parents to
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Speaker 2: his house seventy minute drive, a long drive by uber.
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Speaker 2: Then he allegedly kills her. And it's important to note,
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Speaker 2: Nancy that while he allegedly killed her right after she
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Speaker 2: arrived at his house just after ten pm on the
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Speaker 2: night of April twenty third, D four VD sent text
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Speaker 2: messages to her phone acting like she hadn't arrived yet
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Speaker 2: to kind of create an alibi right off the bat. Then,
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Speaker 2: after he allegedly kills her in his home, he then
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Speaker 2: takes a late night drive out to Santa Barbara County,
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Speaker 2: the first of many, and this is where he allegedly
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Speaker 2: dispoke of some evidence. This early morning, late night ride
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Speaker 2: was reported early on by investigators, if you remember, and
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Speaker 2: it all came to fruition when we saw this timeline
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Speaker 2: getting built. Around April twenty third, this is the week
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Speaker 2: his album is coming out, his first full studio album
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Speaker 2: going out, Withered. The Withered World Tour was beginning right then,
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Speaker 2: and by the way, Celestreevas was threatening. See, he had
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Speaker 2: broken up with her, he had cast her aside, and
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Speaker 2: she was threatening to go public that week to blow
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Speaker 2: up his entire career. That he had been involved with
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Speaker 2: an underage girl for years, and that what happened on
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Speaker 2: April twenty third.
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Speaker 1: Nancy, okay, and that Dave Matt you're right. She was jealous,
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Speaker 1: that she was angry and in her little girl mind,
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Speaker 1: and she's thirteen. They started their relationship when she was eleven,
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Speaker 1: still wearing Hello Kitty apparel. It's not just her saying it.
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Speaker 1: Other people, other girlfriends, many of them allegedly underage and
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Speaker 1: I want to reiterate D four VD David Anthony Burke,
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Speaker 1: it's innocent tonight. He is presumed innocent. This is for
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Speaker 1: you choice, Slaton. I'm throwing you a bone. He's presumed
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Speaker 1: innocent unless and until the state pierces that presumption with
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Speaker 1: evidence sufficient to prove him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Speaker 1: Now that said, I want you to hear what another
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Speaker 1: girlfriend aka victim of D FOURVD, had to say about
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Speaker 1: his stable of underage girls.
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Speaker 5: Seeven's third victim has officially come out anonymously in this
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Speaker 5: Reddit post, sating this is victim three for those things.
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Speaker 5: I didn't go to authorities, That's the first thing I did. Like,
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Speaker 5: are you guys serious? I went to authorities. I'm involved
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Speaker 5: in this. Your comments are insensitive and rude. I went
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Speaker 5: through so much that you guys need a calmed down
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Speaker 5: and realize the victims went through so much. There are
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Speaker 5: other girls out there like me. Does that mean that
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Speaker 5: David have more than three victims? It makes sense because
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Speaker 5: she first had saw how many girls David was grooming, and.
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Speaker 1: He could be backed though by the fact that David
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Speaker 1: had his whole folm full of CPS.
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Speaker 5: So it's about to happen that there's even more than
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Speaker 5: just three victims.
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Speaker 1: That's good Carmen on Insta talking about him reacting to
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Speaker 1: an alleged victim three in this case, angry commenting on
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Speaker 1: the number of underage girls. And you know, back to you,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, how was this little girl so let's
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Speaker 1: supposed to respond? She had told her bestie she was pregnant.
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Speaker 1: You see D four VD is putting it out there,
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Speaker 1: posting that he's going to have a child. Now I
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Speaker 1: know Troy Slang is doing a backflip because we can't
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Speaker 1: prove the origin of this, even though that is his
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Speaker 1: official posting. That said, what's going through the mind of
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Speaker 1: a little girl thirteen that started her relationship with a
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Speaker 1: much older boy when she was eleven years old. He's
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Speaker 1: a man now, he is a grown man. What is
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Speaker 1: she supposed to think when she sees all these other
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Speaker 1: little girls lined up?
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Speaker 3: It's going to be so confusing for her. You know,
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Speaker 3: when Tiger Woods, all these women came out with Tiger Woods.
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Speaker 3: They were adult women, and each one thought they would
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Speaker 3: be the only one in the special one. That was
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Speaker 3: why they hung in there with Tiger Woods. So you
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Speaker 3: think of a twelve year old, her mind's not fully formed.
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Speaker 3: That's going to be a very much a part of
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Speaker 3: the picture. How can a twelve year old even cope
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Speaker 3: or process something like this, especially if she's away from
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Speaker 3: her parents. Our parents help us process reality when we're little,
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Speaker 3: and she didn't have her parents to do that for
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Speaker 3: her because she was out of the familial home. She
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Speaker 3: probably thought she was going to be like a princess
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Speaker 3: and the only one, and that his career grew, that
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Speaker 3: she was going to be the wife of this huge
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Speaker 3: star and all the other girls around. She probably felt
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Speaker 3: so jealous and destroyed and awful, and I imagine that
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Speaker 3: her reality. She probably couldn't even put the pieces together, Nancy.
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Speaker 3: She hopefully had little friends to talk to, but probably
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Speaker 3: not because he probably told her this is a secret.
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Speaker 3: Don't tell anybody, don't tell your parents. So she was
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Speaker 3: left with a mass of undigestible feelings, which is really awful, Nancy,
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Speaker 3: for a little girl to go through.
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Speaker 4: Yes, he has ripped her apart, and there she sits
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Speaker 4: in this house.
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Speaker 1: He blames the smell of this child's decomposing body on
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Speaker 1: his bathroom.
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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, spains this is human remains that are decomposing,
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Speaker 4: a true child, a human being.
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Speaker 1: Tom Smith is joining me. Former detective thirty years on
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Speaker 1: the force. He is now a co star of gold Shields.
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Speaker 1: You can find him at thegalshielshow dot com. Tom, thanks
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Speaker 1: for joining us. I'm not surprised that he is allowing
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Speaker 1: himself to be filmed with a wound to his lip. Please,
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Speaker 1: there are no coincidences in criminal law. She's killed, murdered, dismembered.
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Speaker 1: This video is shortly after according to reports. Of course
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Speaker 1: they're connected, and I'm not surprised at all that he
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Speaker 1: did not delay the video. He didn't delay the party
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Speaker 1: the night of her murder. He went out and partied
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Speaker 1: for pr for marketing and lived it up. Probably got
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Speaker 1: a couple of little girl's phone numbers that night. He
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Speaker 1: didn't care that Celeste was dead at his hands, according
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Speaker 1: to police, So why not she had a video with
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Speaker 1: your lip still dripping blood? Absolutely right.
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Speaker 6: It's a trophy to him, you know. And how many
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Speaker 6: homicides have we seen that the perpetrators have trophies of
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Speaker 6: their victims, and this is just one of them. It's
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Speaker 6: a promotional scheme to put it out there more to
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Speaker 6: act like a tough guy to look at what I did.
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Speaker 6: But inside it is a trophy and he's keeping that
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Speaker 6: as something prideful, which is sickening, but that's the reason
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Speaker 6: he's doing it, and he wasn't going to stop. If
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Speaker 6: you look at all the things that have been going
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Speaker 6: on with these videos, each of them have something else
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Speaker 6: to do with this crime. And that's what investigators need
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Speaker 6: to do as far as a timeline goes. Start picking
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Speaker 6: these videos out and putting them into the timeline of
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Speaker 6: when they came out, when injuries took place or looked
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Speaker 6: like they took place, and then just take it up
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Speaker 6: from there and get all the people involved in these
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Speaker 6: videos as well to get interviewed about what was going
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Speaker 6: on behind the scenes.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I want Choice Light and doctor Bethanie Marshall to
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Speaker 1: brace themselves. I agree with Tom Smith. By the way,
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Speaker 1: I've had so many defendants just flaunt the law. I
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Speaker 1: had one drug trafficker. He appeared in court in the
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Speaker 1: same bright red, full leather outfit leather head to wrist
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Speaker 1: to toe, red leather that he was wearing in his
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Speaker 1: booking photo. Really that the witnesses described he was wearing
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Speaker 1: the night he was apprehended, the knight that he was
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Speaker 1: caught with the dope, the whole thing. He was so arrogant.
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Speaker 1: Same thing here. I don't think that there would be
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Speaker 1: any problem in D Fourvid's mind shooting a video with
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Speaker 1: his lip dripping blood from a wound delivered by Celeste
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Speaker 1: in some way during her murder. Okay, brace yourself, choice
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Speaker 1: latent and doctor Bethany Marshall. Listen to Celestia. You heard
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall talking about what going through this little
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Speaker 1: girl's mind. Was she pregnant at the time? Did she
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Speaker 1: get an abortion? Because we know there was a lot
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Speaker 1: of talk between them. It's documented in the States supporting brief,
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Speaker 1: which by the way, the defense tried to suppress so
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Speaker 1: nobody can read it. But we got it and we
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Speaker 1: read it, and it talks about the Plan B abortion pill.
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Speaker 1: It talks about her getting abortions. Is that why she
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Speaker 1: went to London? Is that why her passport was discarded
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Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere but it was found.
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Speaker 1: Did he not want us to know he took her
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Speaker 1: to there, to Vegas, to Texas, out of state? Why
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Speaker 1: that said? Listen to this little girl's response.
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Speaker 7: I know that you probably don't want to talk to
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Speaker 7: me right now, and I respect that, I really do,
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Speaker 7: but I really need to hear your voice right now,
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Speaker 7: Like I just need to know that you're okay. I
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Speaker 7: need to know that we're okay. I need to I
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Speaker 7: saw so stupid right now, but like I've been so
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Speaker 7: selfishent I can't stop thinking about you and what I
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Speaker 7: did and how it is affecting like everything. I just
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Speaker 7: wanted to say, I'm I'm sorry. I really am sorry.
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Speaker 1: From these plenty eight nine two five on Reddit. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Troy Slayton, I can't wait to hear this unleash the
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Speaker 1: lawyer joining us out of California, LA criminal defense attorney,
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Speaker 1: founder of Slaton Lawyers, Troy Slayton, the one, the only Troy.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear the little thirteen year old girl saying
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Speaker 1: she's sorry for what she did to D four VD? Okay?
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Speaker 1: According to his posting and what she tells her bestie,
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Speaker 1: she was pregnant and her feelings were hurt when she
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Speaker 1: sees all the other girls lined up to be with
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Speaker 1: D four VD and him taking advantage of that, and
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Speaker 1: in her little girl mind she is apologizing. It makes
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Speaker 1: me sick sick. I wonder if they can play that
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Speaker 1: in court, but I want to hear your response.
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Speaker 8: To it, well. Number one, if that is really her,
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Speaker 8: it seems to me like that was a surreptitious recording
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Speaker 8: of a private communication, meaning you're not allowed to record
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Speaker 8: a communication where the people who are involved in the
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Speaker 8: communication have a reasonable expectation of privacy. It's not like
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Speaker 8: they recorded that somewhere at a McDonald's. This was a
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Speaker 8: message sent to one person intended to be private. So
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Speaker 8: that's one issue. That's one legal issue. There's no consent
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Speaker 8: framework that exists for that to be publicly used for
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Speaker 8: any commercial purpose. But certainly, if that was her voice,
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Speaker 8: she's unavailable, and the prosecutors can absolutely use it in
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Speaker 8: a criminal trial for what it's worth. But as far
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Speaker 8: as everything else that you've said today, it seems like pause.
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Speaker 1: Let's just take one issue at the time. So you're
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Speaker 1: saying that the problem you have with a thirteen year
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Speaker 1: old allegedly allegedly pregnant little girl who's watching her love
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Speaker 1: object sleep with other girls and it's hurting her feelings.
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Speaker 1: She's thirteen. Your problem is that it may have been
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Speaker 1: recorded improperly. What are you gonna assume me. You're gonna
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Speaker 1: sue me because I played it. Bring it on, Slayton,
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Speaker 1: Come on, I can't wait. The other thing is what
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Speaker 1: if Celesti recorded it that makes it consent? What if
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Speaker 1: she herself? What if it was taken from a police No, no,
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Speaker 1: no recording. No, you don't know, Nancy.
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Speaker 8: It seems like it seems like it was a voice
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Speaker 8: memo that was sent or like a voicemail sent through
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Speaker 8: a text message, something like that. That's what it appears
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Speaker 8: like to me. Just because she recorded her voice herself
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Speaker 8: doesn't mean that she's given consent for it to be
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Speaker 8: played for anybody she meant it to be.
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Speaker 1: That's not what consent is about. Consent one and two
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Speaker 1: party consent, and I've used it in court many times.
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Speaker 1: It's not about whether it's going to be played publicly
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Speaker 1: like tonight on Crime Stories. It's about consent to tape.
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Speaker 1: Can it be tape? That's the consent we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: not consent to eric on Crime Stories. So let's get
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Speaker 1: the context legally accurate. It's whether Nancy, one of the
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Speaker 1: two parties, consented to the taping.
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Speaker 8: If I record a conversation, if I record my voice
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Speaker 8: and send it to a per and send it to
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Speaker 8: somebody that I don't intend it to be used in
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Speaker 8: any other.
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Speaker 2: Forum.
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Speaker 8: Then it's not allowed to be used regardless of me
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Speaker 8: having taped it myself. It may not violate federal wire
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Speaker 8: tapping laws.
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Speaker 1: But there you go. He finally admits it does not
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Speaker 1: violate because.
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Speaker 8: There's California privacy rules that don't would not allow its publication.
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Speaker 1: We're not that's not in criminal law. That's not in
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Speaker 1: criminal court. This is a murder case. That's civil. But
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Speaker 1: I just fell off the turnip truck. Go to the corner.
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Speaker 1: Go to the corner and think about what you just said.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, don't go to the corner yet, because
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Speaker 1: you were about to jump on all the other issues.
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Speaker 1: What other issues?
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Speaker 8: Well, let's take a thirty thousand foot view at this, Nancy.
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Speaker 8: What you don't realize is that a young celebrity like
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Speaker 8: this has dozens of people around him. There's an entourage,
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Speaker 8: there are multiple people here, and what the defense is
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Speaker 8: going to be starting is going to be proving, it
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Speaker 8: appears from the very beginning, and they're setting this up
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Speaker 8: right now, is an alternative explanation for her death other
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Speaker 8: than the person who's been arrested D four VD David,
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Speaker 8: and they are going to allege that.
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Speaker 1: The other people here fifty sentences some other dude defense?
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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying somewhere?
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, there were so many other people that had access
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Speaker 8: to this person, and so many other people that stand
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Speaker 8: to lose, that stand to be hurt if for somehow
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Speaker 8: she exposed an illegal relationship and the gravy train, which
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Speaker 8: was his stardom where to come to an end.
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Speaker 2: Prosecutors say that Celestie was murdered on April twenty third.
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Speaker 1: The person who potentially committed this heinous crime feels like
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Speaker 1: they can get away with it and no one else
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Speaker 1: knows what happened. He pays it to have Celeste brought
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Speaker 1: to him like she's a pizza. Scott, what actually was
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Speaker 1: done to Celeste? What did she endure?
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Speaker 4: Let's go back in Tom just for a second. Nancy,
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Speaker 4: do you remember the kiddie pool that was mentioned extensively
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Speaker 4: as one of the purchases. What was some verbiage that
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Speaker 4: came out relative to that. And I've always been curious
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Speaker 4: about the source of this information, and that was it
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Speaker 4: was used and that she we watched her or he
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Speaker 4: watched her bleed out. Do you think that David made
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Speaker 4: that statement. Probably not. Therefore, there's someone making that statement
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Speaker 4: about her bleeding out. You want to know about injuries.
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Speaker 4: I've got evidence for this, and let me explain it
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Speaker 4: to you. We're talking about and I've identified as the
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Speaker 4: corner medical examiner did in LA. There are two specific
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Speaker 4: sharp force injuries that she endured, Nancy. One is, if
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Speaker 4: you'll go to the top of your head and measure
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Speaker 4: about fifteen inches down on the left hand side. Okay,
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Speaker 4: that's how they're orienting this in the autopsy report. She
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Speaker 4: is actually stabbed through her ribs in the intercostal space
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Speaker 4: in the left chest. This wound actually goes nowhere. Okay,
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Speaker 4: it doesn't impact the lung. It does clip the edge
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Speaker 4: of the bone, Okay. But here, here's the one that
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Speaker 4: is the fatal shot. So if you go to the
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Speaker 4: top of your head and measure down twenty five inches
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Speaker 4: from the top of her head on the right hand side, Nancy,
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Speaker 4: there's a penetrating sharp force injury right there, and you
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Speaker 4: know where it goes, goes into her liver. You know
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Speaker 4: why this is important because liver trauma is horrible. It's
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Speaker 4: horrible in the sense that it is a slow bleed. Okay,
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Speaker 4: you do not die immediately. She would have languished. I've
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Speaker 4: made comments on this before. This is not something that
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Speaker 4: would have been quick like this. She would have laid
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Speaker 4: there and bled out, Nancy. This would have been painful.
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Speaker 4: She would have eventually slipped into unconsciousness as a result
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Speaker 4: of what we refer to as exanguination or bleeding out internally.
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Speaker 4: If they had gotten to her body sooner prior to dismemberment.
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Speaker 4: When you open her abdomen, her abdmen would have been
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Speaker 4: floating in blood, all right, just so you understand. And
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Speaker 4: the liver is a very vascular organ. There's all kinds
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Speaker 4: of vessels that run through it, and all it takes
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Speaker 4: is to clip a few of those. I've worked cases
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Speaker 4: involving gunshot wounds, stab wounds, and motor vehicle accidents with
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Speaker 4: blunt forced trauma to deliver it is a slow, languishing death.
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Speaker 1: Troy Slayton, is there going to be another co defendant?
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Speaker 8: That's the thing that I had said earlier, and you
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Speaker 8: just brought it up right now and they're discussing it
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Speaker 8: with everybody. This is a person who was never alone.
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Speaker 8: This was a person who had an entourage around him
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Speaker 8: all the time. Even when he's playing a video game,
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Speaker 8: even when he is engaging with a screen, he had
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Speaker 8: multiple people there that are watching, that are commenting that
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Speaker 8: he's commenting with. There are people all around him all
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Speaker 8: the time, which is a very good defense for him
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Speaker 8: having committed this murder.
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Speaker 9: About to make my bloody shirt uniform for a tour.
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Speaker 9: Excuse me, go ahead and take your hand, put some
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Speaker 9: blood on that hand. Take that hand and put it
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Speaker 9: on that sure, and I'm gonna do this twenty five
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Speaker 9: more times than I'll come back to.
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Speaker 3: You when it's finished.
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Speaker 9: It's the blade shirt and you see my hands are
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Speaker 9: completely decimated.
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Speaker 1: But we came out with a good uniform. I'm got
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Speaker 1: to go on stage. Oh yeah, he would totally do
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Speaker 1: a video with a bloody lip from Celeste. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm just to try a lawyer, but when you don't
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Speaker 1: know a horse. Look at his track record. That's from
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Speaker 1: at the Face magazine on TikTok Now I want you
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Speaker 1: to hear that and stark juxtaposition to this.
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Speaker 9: We arrive on us Earth with nothing. We spend our
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Speaker 9: years chasing everything, and then we're gonna die with nothing,
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Speaker 9: so just make sure your spiritual hands are full before.
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Speaker 1: You leave this earth.
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Speaker 9: Read that Bible, staying that word stay inspired.
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Speaker 1: They prayed up, Oh I will, I will, But what
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Speaker 1: I'm praying for DFOURVD may not be the same thing
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Speaker 1: that you're praying for. That was from at DFOURVD prayers
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Speaker 1: on TikTok. Right now, a preliminary hearing is set down.
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Speaker 1: The defense is furious, gnashing their teeth and switching their
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Speaker 1: tails because this brief has been released to the public.
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Speaker 1: They fought tooth and nail to keep it a secret,
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Speaker 1: keep it sealed. The judge refused. That's how we know.
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Speaker 1: As much as we know. We wait as God willing
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Speaker 1: justice unfolds for Celes Revice and last but not least,
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Speaker 1: David Anthony Burke tonight is innocent under the law all
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Speaker 1: of this unless and until the state pierces the presumption
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Speaker 1: of innocence with evidence sufficient to prove Burke guilty beyond
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Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. If you know or think you know anything
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Speaker 1: regarding Celeste Reva's death, please dial two one, three, four, eight, six,
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Speaker 1: six eight nine zero. We remember an American hero, Officer
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Speaker 1: Dustin Crish Carrollton p D. Georgia, just thirty three, killed
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Speaker 1: in the line of duty after three years on the force,
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Speaker 1: leaving behind a grieving wife, Emily. American hero Officer Dustin Crish.
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Speaker 1: Thank you to our guest, but especially you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. Nancy Gray signing off for tonight. I'll see
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Speaker 1: you tomorrow night, and until then, good night friend,