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Extra Innings Episode 12- With Jake and Matt From Providence · Sports Card Clubhouse

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  Welcome to the sports card clubhouse.
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  Extra innings with the hit list. I'm Jake.
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  That's Matt from Providence. I almost screwed up the intro
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  there. You stumbled over it a little
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  bit. You for having us back on the
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  sports card clubhouse guys after we had got not one but two other
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  other duos that were on last week.
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  It's nice to spread the wealth and spread the love, but we, we,
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  we. Said that in.
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  A while I said that, all right, listen, all right, we don't have
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  a ton of time. So I, I, I have AI have an idea.
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  I had an idea for a draft. Are you squeezing?
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  Are you squeezing the clubhouse? I'm going to, we're going to,
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  we're going to do this. We're going to, you know what
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  it's going to take as long as it's going to take.
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  How about that? That's true.
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  I had an idea for a draft and you don't know, you didn't look
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  at the list. Well, let me ask you a question.
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  Let me let me preface this. I use from the hip here.
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  No, no, this is it is you go back and read the list that you
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  didn't read before and you see exactly what I'm about to say.
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  There are a couple things we have to we have to agree on, but
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  this is the idea. OK, We are each going to pick 5
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  vintage cards, so pre 1980 and we will check back in six months
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  to see what happened to the value of the cards in that time
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  and whoever's cards go up the most in value in six months
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  wins. Do you like that?
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  Do you like this? Is this you like this?
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  Idea all right, so. Couple things we have to agree
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  on #1 do we want to just stick to baseball?
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  Yes. OK, so we stick to baseball.
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  That's number one. Number two, I don't, I don't
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  have card ladder, but I, I have VCP.
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  Can we just do VCP average? Like we just say VCP average.
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  Well, how are you going to average it?
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  You going to pick a particular grade.
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  All right. So that was the next question is
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  we have to decide on a grading company and grade for for the
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  card. OK.
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  So my thought was PSA 3. PSA 3 OK.
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  OK, but you know, and and do and so like.
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  I was thinking about the collector's grade.
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  So like a. 30 to 3:40 to 4:50 to 5:00.
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  The problem with the tobacco is that you got to go by ones and
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  then I would look and then I appeal.
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  Right, exactly. So that's I wanted it to be.
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  I wanted it to be. And we're going PSA 3.
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  PSA 3. So what happens to the value of
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  APSA three over the course of the next six months?
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  So, so do we agree that it's hold on a second, Do we agree
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  that it's the that it's we we use VCP average?
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  Sure. OK, All right, so, so we're each
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  going to pick 5 cards. Now what we're going to do?
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  I really should have read the list, I'd be more prepared.
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  OK. Well, look, look, you, you, you,
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  this is your business. You know the market, you're
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  supposed to know the stuff, right?
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  Oh yeah. There's a lot of cards though,
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  Jake. OK.
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  So top five card, top five baseball cards over the next six
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  months that you think are going to go up?
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  Not top five, but pick. Five pick five, pick five that
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  you think, OK, now here's what we're going to do.
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  We're going to for the whoever gets the first.
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  So we're just going to go back and forth, but we got to decide
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  who's going to get the Pert first pick.
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  So. Here's what we're going to do.
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  You could have the first pick. Oh, you're just going to see it
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  to me. Your idea?
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  OK, all right, fine. Because I was going to do a
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  virtual coin flip thing, which would have been kind of fun, but
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  OK. All right, so I get, I get the
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  first pick, my pick. And you've already thought
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  about. This and I got to I have to, I
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  have to, I got to make sure I write all the stuff down.
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  So let me just make sure I I got this.
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  OK, so Jake's first pick, I'm going to pick the I'm going to
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  pick a 49 leaf Jackie. OK.
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  OK, what's your pick? Oh man, this is this is not
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  easy. I'm going to take a 55 Clemente.
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  Really interesting card that you just bought from me.
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  Not APSA 3 though. OK, right.
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  It's true. All right.
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  Far from my next, My next pick. I'm going to pick, I'm going to
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  say the 51. Bowman, Mickey, 51 Bowman,
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  Mickey Mantle, rookie. OK, OK.
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  Your second pick. Give me one SEC.
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  39 Play ball, DiMaggio. OK, see, because like the idea
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  here is that I think what we'll just do is like we're just going
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  to add up well at the end of the six months.
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  So basically what I'm like, what we'll do is we'll do this in
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  November. It's like basically around the
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  time of like Shriners, like the fall Shriners, like that's the
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  time frame for this. We like, I think we just like
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  add up the totals for the averages and then it's just who,
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  what's, what's higher? There's 5.
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  Cards. Well, actually, wait a minute.
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  No, hold on a second. We can't do it like that.
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  It's got to be percentage, right?
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  It's got to be like the percentage because some of these
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  cards are worth more than others.
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  I just think, I just think all you got to do is say, you know,
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  Matt picked 5 cards, 3 cards went up, two cards went down.
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  Jake picked 5 cards, 4 cards went up, one card went down.
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  You'll find a winner there. Fair enough.
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  That's a good. I like that.
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  OK, All right. So now I have my third pick.
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  Yeah. I'm going to go with see, I had
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  those first two like in the hopper like that was where I was
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  definitely going to go with those.
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  I will say, I'll say, man, I'm going to say 5054 tops errand.
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  That's a good pick. OK.
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  Thank you. 63 rows. Like that OK and then so now
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  this I'm on my 4th pick now so I'm going to go.
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  Boy. I will say, I'm going to say I'm
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  going to say 51. I'm going to say 51.
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  Bowman Maze. That's a good pick.
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  I feel, I feel like I'm going like kind of chalk with some of
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  these picks and you're going a little bit like I'm not sure
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  it's a little, I wouldn't say you're taking risks, but it's,
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  it's well. We can talk about it afterwards,
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  we can talk about it. I can explain each one if you
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  want. OK, yeah, no, I'm excited.
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  So OK, so now your 4th pick. 69 White letter mantle.
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  I love it. I love it.
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  OK, so now, now I have my last pick and I have to decide.
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  I think I'm I'm going to go, I'm going to try to go a little bit
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  off the board. I'm going to go with this isn't
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  even off the board, but I'm going to go with it anyway. 33
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  Gowdy Sport Kings Ruth, Let's go on.
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  OK. And now you have one last, one
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  last pick. 14 Crackerjack Secot. Wow 14 crackerjack Wow.
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  I don't That's interesting. That's a really interesting one
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  for a lot of reasons. All right, so so to recap our
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  picks. My picks were 49 Leaf Jackie, 51
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  Bowman Mantle rookie, 54 tops Aaron, 51 Bowman Maze and 33
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  Gaudi Sport Kings, Ruth and your picks were 55 tops Clemente, 39
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  play ball DiMaggio, 63 Rose rookie 69 tops White letter
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  Mantle in 1914 crackerjack Eddie Seacott.
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  Wow. What?
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  Why are you? Well, no, I so I get like I get
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  some of the I think I already know some of the reasoning for
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  yours, but it's it's just it's just amaze.
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  I think we just we went with very different strategies for
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  this. So I I just so tell me so
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  explain to me your pick. So you had so Clemente A?
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  Lot of stuff's up and I don't feel like Clemente Rookie is way
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  up right now. So I feel like he's got some
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  catch up to do, which he probably will.
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  Is this again? That's just a guess.
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  Especially we're running into the national, right?
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  So like Clemente card, Clemente rookie cards, I mean, we know
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  they're not coming down, so I really do predict they'll be out
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  post national. And then what was my next one?
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  Your next one was 39 play ball DiMaggio.
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  Again, Yeah, nobody likes the rookie card. 39 Play ball is his
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  first good looking card. It's a great card.
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  Yeah, I think that'll be it. And then you had Rose, and you
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  had the, So you had the Rose rookie.
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  Right. So this is the same thing as C
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  card three and five are going to be the same reason, right.
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  We're we're going to go past a induction ceremony and we're six
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  months closer to these guys getting inducted in and that
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  conversation will keep going. And so those guys cards are
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  going to keep going up. I thought about picking the T2O6
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  Seacock but I just stay for with the Cracker Jack probably.
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  Yeah, right. You know.
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  Yeah. I prefer the Seacock.
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  Go get Seacock, Don't get me wrong, because it's a Red Sox
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  card. Yeah, but but for all kinds of
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  purposes, the Cracker Jacks more likely to get a bump.
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  And the other one you said was the 69 tops white letter mantle?
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  That's a very safe card in the hobby.
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  Yeah, yeah, it'll just go up. Yeah, yeah, I, I went safe, you
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  know, with a lot of my picks just in terms of, I think that
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  the the attention that continues to generate around bigger iconic
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  cards like these cards just keep going up.
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  And I, so I think it's like, I guess the only risk I have is
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  that is there a ceiling for some, for some of these, you
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  know, like is there a ceiling? Or reached their all right hope
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  they hadn't reached their ceiling.
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  Yet. So I feel like a leaf, Jackie.
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  I feel like maybe we could be getting to a ceiling possibly?
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  Not a ceiling, but you're going to the card is going to very
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  much slow down and rise. But it still might go up over
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  the next six months it. Should, and that's, I mean all
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  these cards should go up honestly.
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  I mean, they should all go up a percentage point.
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  And then? So we probably should have done
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  percentage points, but go ahead, we can go.
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  We can go back to this and figure it out anyways.
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  So Mantle, I think the I think the that was why I didn't pick
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  the 52 Mantle honestly, that card.
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  Is 51, is 251, and 52 are too far apart. 51 has definitely got
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  some catching up to do, and I think it will.
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  That's my point. Yes, exactly.
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  And it's, it's, it's, it's a higher population.
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  And the 52 is going to get propped up by its own market, so
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  the 51 is going to has to grow. I agree, yeah, yeah.
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  And then I said, I said the the Aaron rookie, same thing.
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  I think to me it's like, OK, what's the next level down in
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  terms of like an iconic card that is that's more available?
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  Than I really want to come away from the National with that
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  card. I think you, you know, it's a
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  good place to to go for one for sure.
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  And then I said and then same thing even like Bowman Maze, I
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  feel like that's, you know, the next level down, but a really,
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  really desirable card. And then I just, I don't know
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  the, the Ruth, the Gaudi's for King's Ruth.
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  I just went on. I don't know, I went off the
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  board a little bit. I feel like there's probably
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  less of that out there than than the Gaudi's than the regular
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  Gaudi's. So just like, you know, let's,
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  let's see what happens with that.
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  I. Was thinking also the more
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  stickers that are out there and are sold by then are going to
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  give huge bumps in averages so it's more likely that our cards
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  are going to. Go up.
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  Yeah, I agree. All right, all right, Well, this
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  was fun. This was was this fun?
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  Did did I? Did I come?
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  With a great. Idea.
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  OK, Thank you. Thank you.
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  All right, So anything else? No glad to be back on the
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  clubhouse. Yeah, it's good to be back on
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  the clubhouse. So if people like this, we're
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  going to let us let us know in the comments of the the YouTube
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  video, especially if you like these pics, if there's any that.
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  You also for you audio people. Our regular podcast is now on
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  So if you're just an audio guy only, can you check us out over
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  there? If you check us out there, we
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  would. Appreciate it.
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  We would very much appreciate that and thank you for for
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  mentioning that. I probably should have mentioned
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  that on our our regular. Show I am a true professional.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  Thank you to everybody out there.
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  And Matt, what do you say? Like, comment, subscribe and
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  collect.