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- 0:12Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friend, and welcome to Who Did What Now?
- 0:16Speaker 1: The history podcast that is not your history class with me,
- 0:21Speaker 1: your host Katie Charlewood, history harlot and reader of books.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Here is a little old day from the Vault Marlena.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Dietrich because I want to be alone now. Just to
- 0:37Speaker 3: warn everyone, my voice is gone. I have a very husky,
- 0:43Speaker 3: sexy voice in this.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Episode, which is nice for some.
- 0:48Speaker 3: It was less pleasant for me. I think I had
- 0:51Speaker 3: to take so many breaks because.
- 0:54Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 0:55Speaker 3: So yeah, but with it being a Hollywood history a month,
- 0:59Speaker 3: I I am so glad to share this with you.
- 1:04Speaker 3: I blood you love Marlena Dietrich, and I thought you
- 1:07Speaker 3: deserve a little bit of fun. You deserve a really
- 1:10Speaker 3: cool women who wanted to poison Hitler with a happen
- 1:15Speaker 3: because of course she did anyway, without further ado, I
- 1:20Speaker 3: do hope you enjoyed this all Day from the Vault
- 1:23Speaker 3: episode of Marlena Dietrich. Have fun.
- 1:28Speaker 2: If you are new here, this is not my usual voice.
- 1:32Speaker 2: This is much sexier than my usual voice. I am sick,
- 1:37Speaker 2: because of course I am, because I can't stay healthy
- 1:40Speaker 2: for more than five minutes. But fuck it, it's fine.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Here we are. Oh you may have noticed that I
- 1:48Speaker 2: speak with language more colorful than a kaleidoscope filled with
- 1:51Speaker 2: the word fuck. But here we are welcome. If you
- 1:56Speaker 2: don't like it, though, you might want to exit stage left. Good,
- 2:02Speaker 2: now that we've separated the week from the chaff, how
- 2:05Speaker 2: are you what you're doing? Well? Yeah, this has been
- 2:09Speaker 2: it's been a fun week. It's been a busy week,
- 2:11Speaker 2: trying to get sort of more of the tour dates
- 2:14Speaker 2: locked in. All the events are going to be going
- 2:16Speaker 2: up on the website, so they're going to be on there,
- 2:19Speaker 2: and yeah, it's going to be good. I'm excited. Are
- 2:23Speaker 2: you excited? I'm excited. We should all be excited. But anyway,
- 2:27Speaker 2: I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, what your gibber
- 2:30Speaker 2: jabber in fact me, in fact you. Well, but first
- 2:34Speaker 2: we've got to get our source on. Our sources are
- 2:38Speaker 2: Marlina Dietrich Life and Legend by Stephen Buck, Marlena Dietrich
- 2:44Speaker 2: by Maria Riva Blue Angel, The Life of Marlina Dietrich
- 2:49Speaker 2: by Donald Spoto, Steenberg and Dietrich. The Phenomenology of Spectacle
- 2:57Speaker 2: by James Phillips at War, Marlina Dietrich Remembered by David J. Riva,
- 3:06Speaker 2: The Sewing Circle, Hollywood's Greatest Secret Female Stars who Loved
- 3:11Speaker 2: Other Women by Axel Madden, The Girls When Sappho Goes
- 3:17Speaker 2: to Hollywood by Diana McLellan. And of course we have
- 3:22Speaker 2: our old favorites he history dot com and biography dot com.
- 3:27Speaker 2: I will say it uncomfortably good. Then let's begin. So
- 3:34Speaker 2: Marlena Dietrich was born, as most of us are, she
- 3:39Speaker 2: was born. Yeah, So she was born Marie Magdalene Dietrich
- 3:47Speaker 2: on the twenty seventh of December nineteen oh one in
- 3:51Speaker 2: the Lewis Strauss in Berlin. I will do accents, they
- 3:58Speaker 2: will not be pleasant. You're just gonna have to accept.
- 4:00Speaker 2: So she was born to Wilhelmina Elizabeth Josephine. And I
- 4:05Speaker 2: name I'm gonna fuck up, But luckily I don't have
- 4:07Speaker 2: to say it more than once. Lewis Rich Otto Dietrich.
- 4:14Speaker 2: It's a very short shot, sharp sharp sharp short. Oh
- 4:18Speaker 2: my god, I'm getting worse. It's a sharp short name.
- 4:22Speaker 2: It's like Louis Rich otto di see. It's it's very
- 4:28Speaker 2: difficult for Mawi tongue today, is it? You know? It
- 4:33Speaker 2: likes the long names. The elaborate names, but this is
- 4:35Speaker 2: this is where we're at. So Louis he was a
- 4:41Speaker 2: police lieutenant. And Wilhelmina or Wilhelmina, probably Wilhelmina was rich.
- 4:49Speaker 2: She was my rich family, a well to do family.
- 4:52Speaker 2: They made their money on jewelery and clocks and Marlina
- 4:57Speaker 2: here she is one of two children. She has an
- 5:00Speaker 2: older sister who's like a year older than her, so
- 5:03Speaker 2: it's nineteen hundred. Her sister, Elizabeth is born and then
- 5:08Speaker 2: she's born the year after, so there's like a year
- 5:12Speaker 2: and a half between them. But there's the two girls
- 5:15Speaker 2: and that's it. That's enough. So starting things off, she
- 5:20Speaker 2: comes from a pretty privileged background. Her family's prosperous. Things
- 5:24Speaker 2: are going well. She's doing all right for herself. Unfortunately,
- 5:31Speaker 2: like most of our stories, at tragedy strikes, because of
- 5:35Speaker 2: course they fucking do, right, of course it does, of course.
- 5:39Speaker 2: So her beloved father, Lewis louis one of those. He
- 5:46Speaker 2: is thrown from a horse and dies of his injuries.
- 5:51Speaker 2: And she's only six years old when this happens, leaving
- 5:55Speaker 2: her mother a widow who is just not doing great. Unsurprisingly,
- 6:02Speaker 2: being the turn of the twentieth century. Her mother goes
- 6:05Speaker 2: into full on mourning, so she is in her mourning garb.
- 6:10Speaker 2: She doesn't go places, she dresses all in black, like
- 6:14Speaker 2: it's very much the done thing of especially the world
- 6:19Speaker 2: to do. But she is absolutely done, like she is
- 6:24Speaker 2: full on grieving, and you know, her husband has died
- 6:27Speaker 2: and she's allowed to do that. You're expected to do that, especially,
- 6:32Speaker 2: you know, in this era. And what happens is things
- 6:36Speaker 2: are going okay until the outbreak of World War One,
- 6:42Speaker 2: the Great War, the First War, however you want to
- 6:45Speaker 2: phrase it. The war breaks out and the family business
- 6:51Speaker 2: is not doing great because you know, war, although war
- 6:56Speaker 2: is good for business, it's not necessarily good for that business.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Not really a lot of clocks needed it this time,
- 7:04Speaker 2: and so desperation, their mother gets a job as a housekeeper,
- 7:11Speaker 2: but she manages to work for one of Lewis's old friends,
- 7:15Speaker 2: Edward von lush So. Edward was a colonel in the grenadiers,
- 7:23Speaker 2: and she was, you know, relatively well to do as well,
- 7:27Speaker 2: so things were okay. She kind of landed on her
- 7:30Speaker 2: feet there. But when they get married in nineteen fourteen,
- 7:36Speaker 2: sort of the war has broken out and then a
- 7:38Speaker 2: lot of wi lately get married Wilhelmina. The mum is
- 7:46Speaker 2: wearing her mourning clothes for her first husband. Like that
- 7:51Speaker 2: is her wedding dress, is her mourning garb? Like, I'm
- 7:55Speaker 2: not saying that was a bad sign. I'm just saying,
- 8:01Speaker 2: does that flag look vaguely maroon to you? Just just
- 8:08Speaker 2: a question, just a thought perhaps. So they get married
- 8:16Speaker 2: nineteen fourteen, and he's in the army, he's not around
- 8:22Speaker 2: too much, and then two years later, nineteen sixteen, he dies.
- 8:28Speaker 2: He dies in combat, as one does when one is
- 8:31Speaker 2: in the army during a full on world war. There
- 8:36Speaker 2: is a wee bit of a silver lining though, because
- 8:38Speaker 2: they were married, they had his pension, so they had
- 8:42Speaker 2: Vonlosh's pension to kind of tide them over and keep
- 8:45Speaker 2: them going. I should probably mention where the name Marlena
- 8:49Speaker 2: came from. So basically, the second half of her second
- 8:55Speaker 2: name and the first part of her first name smooshed together,
- 8:58Speaker 2: so when she was younger, people would call her Lena
- 9:02Speaker 2: sort of for reasons, I guess, And so she decided
- 9:07Speaker 2: to mix those together and make Marlena. So Marie Magdalene, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Marlena.
- 9:14Speaker 2: There you go. She's gonna name good for her. She
- 9:16Speaker 2: chose her name, and we have to respect that. So
- 9:19Speaker 2: why she's grown up as well, is she's playing the
- 9:22Speaker 2: violin and she dreams of being a concert violinist. But
- 9:28Speaker 2: then she starts getting these pains in her hand and
- 9:31Speaker 2: she goes to the doctors and turns out she has
- 9:34Speaker 2: this bone injury that didn't heal. So she's got this
- 9:39Speaker 2: injured wrist and she just can't play to the level
- 9:44Speaker 2: of like a concert pianist anymore. And here's the thing,
- 9:48Speaker 2: like she was doing like theater and poetry and all
- 9:52Speaker 2: this other stuff as a backup, Like it was a
- 9:56Speaker 2: backup plan for her. Like imagine imagine your massive, amazing,
- 10:02Speaker 2: wonderful career being a backup because you stumbled upon it,
- 10:07Speaker 2: like you fell into it, like by happenstance.
- 10:12Speaker 4: You know.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Well, when I fall into things, I end up covered
- 10:16Speaker 2: in mud, you know, I end up drenched and ruined
- 10:20Speaker 2: and broken. She ends up with a career like, oh no,
- 10:25Speaker 2: I just fell into it. Oh no, Like I end
- 10:29Speaker 2: up in the bend next to Oscar the Grouch, and
- 10:32Speaker 2: she ends up at the oscars, you know what I mean. Like,
- 10:35Speaker 2: that's that's fun for everybody. Involved. But yeah, she was
- 10:40Speaker 2: doing this as a backup. But I'm getting ahead of
- 10:44Speaker 2: myself a wee bit. So when she's when she's like
- 10:50Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen, she gets a job as like a violinist
- 10:56Speaker 2: and an orchestra pet in a theater. Inline So like
- 11:01Speaker 2: back in the day, what would happen is silent films
- 11:04Speaker 2: would play and the orchestra would play along. You know,
- 11:08Speaker 2: they would do the little dangerous music when the train
- 11:11Speaker 2: would be getting towards the train tracks and the damsel
- 11:14Speaker 2: will be tied to it by the devious villain. You know,
- 11:17Speaker 2: they would play the appropriate like soundtrack for the movie.
- 11:23Speaker 2: And that's what she did. She lasted four weeks before
- 11:27Speaker 2: she was fired. But of course a girl needs a job,
- 11:32Speaker 2: and so she gets one as a chorus girl. And
- 11:36Speaker 2: so she's on tour with the Guido Daisher's girl Cowboret.
- 11:41Speaker 2: Fuck me, my throat is so sore. I can't pronounce
- 11:44Speaker 2: words properly, like I'm usually pretty good, but you know
- 11:49Speaker 2: European words places, Nope, not today. Everything. I'm buggering it
- 11:56Speaker 2: all up. But it's fine. I'm sure you'll I'm sure
- 11:58Speaker 2: you'll forgive me. And so yeah, she's on tour during
- 12:02Speaker 2: these like vaudeville shows, and she tries to get into
- 12:09Speaker 2: a drama academy. She auditions when she's twenty one, and she's,
- 12:15Speaker 2: guess what, you're trying to get into this drama academy.
- 12:18Speaker 2: What is it? The Max Reinheart's Drama Academy. And they
- 12:24Speaker 2: were like, no, she didn't get in, not even a wee.
- 12:29Speaker 2: But and so she ends up doing chorus girl stuff
- 12:32Speaker 2: small here the parts, you know, bits and pieces, and
- 12:35Speaker 2: she's doing this around Berlin. But what she also does
- 12:41Speaker 2: in Berlin is she starts going to the underground Berlin
- 12:47Speaker 2: gay bars and drag balls. So she was very much
- 12:52Speaker 2: part of this scene. And throughout her early twenties she
- 12:57Speaker 2: is going out partying, she is shagging men, she's shagging women,
- 13:02Speaker 2: she's probably shagging people who are gender nonconformist. She's doing
- 13:07Speaker 2: everything everyone, some might say, and she's having the best time.
- 13:12Speaker 2: And we love this journey for her. When she's twenty two,
- 13:17Speaker 2: she gets a genuiney role in a film called The
- 13:21Speaker 2: Little Napoleon. So that's her debut to the moving pictures.
- 13:29Speaker 2: That is not her accent. That was bad. That was
- 13:32Speaker 2: really bad. So she's on the set of tragedy of love,
- 13:40Speaker 2: very optimistic one there where she meets Rudolph Cyber now
- 13:48Speaker 2: as someone who's just constantly this big party girl, and
- 13:52Speaker 2: she's out shagging this person that person, whoever right, And
- 13:56Speaker 2: she suddenly flips on this. She tells everyone that she's
- 13:59Speaker 2: fallen badly in love. But all the evidence suggests that
- 14:03Speaker 2: this in fact was a shotgun wedding. So effectively, Marlena
- 14:12Speaker 2: Dietrich was pregnant and being you know, the good man
- 14:20Speaker 2: that he was. I guess I suppose maybe Rudolph Cyber
- 14:24Speaker 2: decides he's going to make an honest woman out of her,
- 14:26Speaker 2: and they get married and it's in like like a
- 14:30Speaker 2: civil service, and they get married in May, and then
- 14:40Speaker 2: Marlena's only child, their daughter, is born in Zember. Maria
- 14:48Speaker 2: Elizabeth Cyber just just you know, made to Dezember's. Uh,
- 14:59Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's eight months. I'm just I'm
- 15:03Speaker 2: just saying that it's not a long time. I'm just
- 15:06Speaker 2: just putting it out there. It's a good day or
- 15:10Speaker 2: shotgun wedding. Yeah, I know, I know, I squeezed it
- 15:14Speaker 2: in there. I did it. I don't care I did it.
- 15:16Speaker 2: So they have this cookie cutter like family, husband, wife, baby,
- 15:22Speaker 2: and they're married. Yeah, and they stay married, like, they
- 15:27Speaker 2: don't get divorced because I don't know, maybe they couldn't
- 15:30Speaker 2: be arsed. Maybe they stayed friends because you know, they
- 15:34Speaker 2: both got around and they seem to be pretty chill,
- 15:38Speaker 2: Like he's living with like another woman for like twenty years,
- 15:41Speaker 2: and Marlina is just kind of doing whoever she wants
- 15:47Speaker 2: and they live separate lives. But they just can't be
- 15:50Speaker 2: arsed getting divorced. I couldn't read anything about them not
- 15:53Speaker 2: getting on. So yeah, maybe they were fine, you know,
- 15:58Speaker 2: but yes, nuclear family. You might think, ah, you know,
- 16:02Speaker 2: she might settle down. Absolutely not. So she continues working
- 16:07Speaker 2: on stage and on screen all through sort of the
- 16:10Speaker 2: nineteen twenties, but then in nineteen twenty nine she meets
- 16:14Speaker 2: Joseph von Sternberg. And what's interesting about these two is,
- 16:19Speaker 2: as far as I remember, they currently hold like the
- 16:22Speaker 2: most collaborations between an actor and a director. So these
- 16:27Speaker 2: two worked have worked together more than any other, been
- 16:33Speaker 2: in more productions than any other actor slash director. So go,
- 16:39Speaker 2: then that's actually fucking cool. So she gets her break
- 16:43Speaker 2: as Lola on his film The Blue Angel and this
- 16:48Speaker 2: is her big break, and he's out there telling everybody
- 16:54Speaker 2: that he discovered her, and for years afterwards, really no
- 17:00Speaker 2: would say that, you know, this was her first film,
- 17:03Speaker 2: and you know, and pretend like the old ones in
- 17:05Speaker 2: Germany didn't exist, didn't happen. But no, no, no, this
- 17:10Speaker 2: was just her being discovered. So she ends up being
- 17:15Speaker 2: signed to Paramount Pictures just because this film does so
- 17:18Speaker 2: fucking well. And she gets signed because they're trying to
- 17:21Speaker 2: find like another Greta Garbel who's Swedish and so they
- 17:27Speaker 2: wanted somebody else and she's German, so you know, she's
- 17:30Speaker 2: she's foreign, she's out there and she's doing well, and
- 17:37Speaker 2: that's what they want. They want someone who has the
- 17:39Speaker 2: same kind of appeal, that same I don't want to
- 17:43Speaker 2: say exoticness, but like imagine like oh they're so exotic,
- 17:48Speaker 2: they're German like. But Metro Golden Mayor they had Garble,
- 17:56Speaker 2: and Paramit wanted their own Garble, but they couldn't have
- 17:59Speaker 2: another because that would be a turn up for the books.
- 18:04Speaker 2: I regret nothing and so and so they wanted their
- 18:09Speaker 2: own and so enter Marlena. So she leaves Berlin for Hollywood.
- 18:14Speaker 2: She you know, kisses her husband and her daughter goodbye,
- 18:17Speaker 2: and she's like, I'll be back soon, but she's not.
- 18:22Speaker 2: And it doesn't really matter because at that point has mistress.
- 18:24Speaker 2: It's like a dancer. I think she's you know, and there,
- 18:29Speaker 2: you know, involved in that situation. When Marlena is headed
- 18:33Speaker 2: over to Hollywood and she's there and she arrives and
- 18:39Speaker 2: Joseph and Stenberg, he just starts showing her with gifts,
- 18:42Speaker 2: one of which is a green Roles voice. Now, I
- 18:46Speaker 2: don't care much for green cars nor for rolls rices,
- 18:49Speaker 2: but I would not say no to one, even though
- 18:52Speaker 2: I do not drive. That is not the point. If
- 18:55Speaker 2: I had one of those, If I could afford a
- 18:57Speaker 2: Rose Royce, I feel like I could afford a driver,
- 18:59Speaker 2: you know, except I would call Mi chauffeur because i'mbougie
- 19:03Speaker 2: like that. So Marlena is just cruising towards the US,
- 19:07Speaker 2: preparing for her next film role, maybe flirting with some
- 19:11Speaker 2: people on the boat, and you know, because she has
- 19:15Speaker 2: to travel by boat because that's how one got around
- 19:18Speaker 2: in the past. And she gets to the States and
- 19:23Speaker 2: the moment she steps off the boat, she is served
- 19:27Speaker 2: with peoples because Joseph von Sternberg's wife. She was suing
- 19:35Speaker 2: Marlena Dietrich for six hundred thousand dollars for a label
- 19:42Speaker 2: and for stealing her husband's affection. So basically, this was
- 19:46Speaker 2: accusing her of seeing in an interview with some magazine
- 19:51Speaker 2: in Germany that von Stenberg was in love with her
- 19:55Speaker 2: and that he was going to leave his wife for her,
- 19:58Speaker 2: and the the studio is like, oh no, we can't
- 20:02Speaker 2: have this, this is not something we can do right now,
- 20:06Speaker 2: and Marlena is just like wanting to fight it because
- 20:10Speaker 2: she's like, fuck this for a game of soldiers. And
- 20:14Speaker 2: what happens is the studio basically pair off and they
- 20:17Speaker 2: make it settle and to not go public. Like they're
- 20:20Speaker 2: just like no, no, no, no, no, keep it stump, keep
- 20:22Speaker 2: it stumb. We're not We're not having this. We have
- 20:24Speaker 2: a reputation to think about. And like the Hayes Code
- 20:28Speaker 2: was starting to come into effect at this point too,
- 20:30Speaker 2: So if you don't know what the Hayes Code is,
- 20:33Speaker 2: it was this level of censorship that was adopted by
- 20:38Speaker 2: sort of the motion picture scene, by all of the
- 20:41Speaker 2: major studios, and they all just kind of agreed to it,
- 20:45Speaker 2: and it's so fucking ridiculous. It had a list of
- 20:48Speaker 2: actors and actresses who were blacklisted, effectively for being like
- 20:55Speaker 2: openly you know, sexy, gay, who were using a lot
- 21:03Speaker 2: of curse words in real life, who had behavior that
- 21:06Speaker 2: was seen as a moral or unethical or or you know,
- 21:12Speaker 2: not upstanding traditional values. Like it just said this so stupid.
- 21:18Speaker 2: It's so stupid. So it had a list of all
- 21:21Speaker 2: these actors and actresses on it, And then it also
- 21:24Speaker 2: had sort of rules that you had to follow, like
- 21:28Speaker 2: you couldn't have relationships quote unquote relations outside of marriage.
- 21:33Speaker 2: You couldn't have like a couple sharing a bed together.
- 21:36Speaker 2: You couldn't have anything that suggested sex. You couldn't have
- 21:42Speaker 2: like a bunch of weird, weird shit, Like my personal
- 21:46Speaker 2: favorite was if a couple are in a bedroom, they
- 21:51Speaker 2: have to have one foot on the floor all times,
- 21:56Speaker 2: like like you couldn't have really sexy, sexy stuff going on,
- 22:02Speaker 2: which in a way was really good because it meant
- 22:04Speaker 2: that at the time women would get decent roles because
- 22:08Speaker 2: they couldn't just be like a sex symbol, Like you
- 22:13Speaker 2: couldn't just be that, like you couldn't be pigeonholed into
- 22:17Speaker 2: this specific sort of But and at the time, as well.
- 22:21Speaker 2: You had a lot of women working behind the scenes
- 22:24Speaker 2: in Hollywood, Like a lot of the major players initially
- 22:28Speaker 2: were women, and then men realized you could make money
- 22:31Speaker 2: off it, and then they came. But yeah, it was
- 22:33Speaker 2: it was a very interesting time. So, yeah, the Hayes
- 22:36Speaker 2: code comes in. So women get pretty decent parts because
- 22:39Speaker 2: they can't just be a sex symbol, you know, a
- 22:42Speaker 2: bout of fluff, and so they get decent roles. And
- 22:47Speaker 2: then comes Marlena who causes scandal on the set of
- 22:52Speaker 2: Morocco because she's playing a cabaret star. As always, I say,
- 22:56Speaker 2: as always, but she is. She's playing a cabaret star
- 22:59Speaker 2: and she's wearing a suit and she kisses another woman.
- 23:04Speaker 2: Now again, this is something that shouldn't be allowed according
- 23:07Speaker 2: to the Hayes quote, but she argues and argues and
- 23:12Speaker 2: says that it's essential to the plot and that it's necessary,
- 23:16Speaker 2: and she kind of bullies slash convinces the sensors to
- 23:22Speaker 2: allow it and to keep it in and they do.
- 23:26Speaker 2: And this is where she also starts having an affair
- 23:30Speaker 2: with Gary Cooper, who's also having an affair with another
- 23:35Speaker 2: actress who wants to quote Teir Marlina's eyeballs out like okay, cool,
- 23:42Speaker 2: that's that's fun. So naturally, this is a perfect time
- 23:46Speaker 2: to go visit your husband. And she heads back to Germany,
- 23:50Speaker 2: back to Berlin, and she gets there and turns out
- 23:55Speaker 2: her daughter doesn't fucking recognize her, and she's like, oh no,
- 23:58Speaker 2: this ain't good, and she decides, you know what, you
- 24:01Speaker 2: all are coming back to America with me. Come on,
- 24:04Speaker 2: let's go, and off they pop. They head over to
- 24:08Speaker 2: the States. Now, as her daughter grows up, instead of
- 24:12Speaker 2: you know, sending her to school like you know, one should,
- 24:16Speaker 2: she ends up having her become like a mini assistant
- 24:20Speaker 2: and just drags her from set to set. So the
- 24:22Speaker 2: more she's acting, the more she's getting around, she's bringing
- 24:24Speaker 2: her with her. Now, part of this is probably a
- 24:30Speaker 2: bit selfish, because she's upset that her daughter didn't recognize her,
- 24:34Speaker 2: but another part was she gets this letter threatening to
- 24:38Speaker 2: kidnap Maria and they're gonna come get her and whatever,
- 24:43Speaker 2: and so she always keeps her close, Like she tells,
- 24:46Speaker 2: you know, Steiberg, the husband, and he's like, yeah, I'm
- 24:49Speaker 2: gonna call the cops, and so he's like, people have
- 24:53Speaker 2: threatened to kidnap her. Eventually no one does, but you know, yeah, now, Maria,
- 24:59Speaker 2: she basically ends up writing this book which is kind
- 25:02Speaker 2: of the equivalent of Mummy Dearest, and it is not favorable.
- 25:07Speaker 2: It basically says that Marlina Dietrich was, you know, a
- 25:10Speaker 2: bit of a bit, which we kind of expected to
- 25:12Speaker 2: the best of our abilities, but it also said that
- 25:16Speaker 2: she was a wee bit racist. She was also a
- 25:19Speaker 2: little bit sexist, which you know, weird for a queer
- 25:24Speaker 2: woman to hate other women, but she did. She really
- 25:27Speaker 2: hated Josephine Baker. And I don't know if that's just
- 25:30Speaker 2: because Josephine Baker was amazing and she was jealous, or
- 25:34Speaker 2: because Josephine Baker was not white. So we have to
- 25:40Speaker 2: take it to consideration that no, no, no, not the
- 25:44Speaker 2: best of people in the world is Marlina Dietrich. That
- 25:49Speaker 2: being said, when one Sternberg goes back to Germany, she's like,
- 25:55Speaker 2: maybe you shouldn't do that because things don't seem great
- 25:58Speaker 2: over there, because one Sternberg is Jewish and he's her
- 26:02Speaker 2: friend and collaborator, possibly lovers to say, and she's like,
- 26:07Speaker 2: let's not do that. So she is doing okay film
- 26:14Speaker 2: wise in the nineteen thirties. She's in well received movies,
- 26:20Speaker 2: but she's gone away from Paramount and she's making movies
- 26:23Speaker 2: and sort of other countries and she's making them in
- 26:25Speaker 2: London and they're expensive and she's doing well all right,
- 26:33Speaker 2: but she ends up like number one, two six in
- 26:35Speaker 2: the box office rankings, and so she gets labeled poison,
- 26:41Speaker 2: box office poison, which apparently is a big deal. And
- 26:46Speaker 2: just like everybody else, it's just kind of she fell
- 26:49Speaker 2: out of fashion a wee bit. It's not really that
- 26:51Speaker 2: big of deal, you know. She just wasn't any thing
- 26:54Speaker 2: like fred A Staire at one point was labeled box
- 26:56Speaker 2: office poison. Fred fucking a Stare, you know, Catherine Hepburn,
- 27:03Speaker 2: Greta Garble, like all of the interesting ones. They're like ooh,
- 27:08Speaker 2: And so she gets labeled as that, and that's fine.
- 27:13Speaker 2: But speaking of Catherine Hepburn and Greta Garble and such
- 27:17Speaker 2: and allegedly, I've got to say allegedly because there's a
- 27:24Speaker 2: men of eminence, but not a huge amount of evidence,
- 27:27Speaker 2: but there's enough of it. So here's the thing. This
- 27:33Speaker 2: sewing circle, the sewing circle was like this. It isn't
- 27:38Speaker 2: like a club, you know, it's not like a member's
- 27:41Speaker 2: only jacket. No, although we should have sewing circle jackets
- 27:47Speaker 2: if you want, like, let's do that sewing circle, a
- 27:50Speaker 2: little slowing circle. Oh IMG, will that be amazing, wouldn't it? Yes,
- 27:56Speaker 2: So basically, the sewing circle was more of a concept.
- 27:59Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it's like a ring, you know,
- 28:02Speaker 2: it's not like like a drug ring. But it's a
- 28:04Speaker 2: lesbian ring. Yeah. Effectively, So lesbians in Hollywood, whether they
- 28:11Speaker 2: were actors, actresses, I see actress, whether they were actresses
- 28:15Speaker 2: or behind the scenes or writers or you know, the
- 28:19Speaker 2: wife of Jack Warner of Warner Brothers. Just saying, so
- 28:26Speaker 2: they were lesbians and Hollywood effectively, and that was the
- 28:29Speaker 2: sewing circle. So I think Tulula Bankhead, Claudine Colbert, so
- 28:36Speaker 2: on and so forth, Marlene and Dietrich and Marlena is
- 28:41Speaker 2: having affairs men women. Howmever, having the best life because
- 28:48Speaker 2: of this, because of this sort of known secret of
- 28:51Speaker 2: who she was and who she was doing. That's kind
- 28:56Speaker 2: of where Hollywood sort of loses its phizz with her
- 29:01Speaker 2: and she gets an interesting offer. So it's the mid thirties.
- 29:09Speaker 2: Her films are doing okay, but they're not quite and
- 29:13Speaker 2: she starts dating John Gilbert. John Gilbert had gone from
- 29:17Speaker 2: like silent movies to talkies, and he had a very
- 29:21Speaker 2: light speaking voice, but the studios tried to like alter
- 29:25Speaker 2: his voice and like post to kind of go make
- 29:29Speaker 2: it sound a bit more manly and as such, like
- 29:32Speaker 2: this rumor mill start going out. They had a high pitched,
- 29:35Speaker 2: squeaky voice, and it kind of tanked his career. Didn't
- 29:38Speaker 2: tank his love life though, because he was married four
- 29:40Speaker 2: times and like in the middle of like think between
- 29:44Speaker 2: marriage two and three, he's dating Guerta Garbo who ends
- 29:48Speaker 2: up leaving him at the altar like drama drama central, right,
- 29:55Speaker 2: So allegedly his last marriage ended because his affair with Marlena,
- 30:02Speaker 2: but they like officially start dating between like nineteen thirty
- 30:05Speaker 2: five and nineteen thirty six, and she tries to get
- 30:07Speaker 2: him a comeback and one of his films because you know,
- 30:10Speaker 2: things are not going great for him, but it doesn't work,
- 30:14Speaker 2: and he basically drinks himself to death, like that's what happens,
- 30:20Speaker 2: you know, And Marlena is very upset over this, like
- 30:25Speaker 2: she actually breaks down crying in a church, like sobbing.
- 30:30Speaker 2: I mean, I'm hoping it's real and it wasn't just
- 30:35Speaker 2: for show, Like it'd be nice to know that she
- 30:38Speaker 2: had that level of empathy. Well, you know what they say,
- 30:41Speaker 2: nothing gets you over the last one like the next one.
- 30:45Speaker 2: And she starts getting down with Douglas Fairbanks Junior, who
- 30:51Speaker 2: was very much married to Joan Crawford. Now there are whispers,
- 30:58Speaker 2: there are rumors that it probably happened. So basically there's
- 31:03Speaker 2: there's everywhere that Joan Crawford was also part of the
- 31:07Speaker 2: social social circle, No, the sewing circle. She was also
- 31:11Speaker 2: part of the sewing circle, so that's right, and they
- 31:16Speaker 2: end up like going on holiday together like Marlena Dietrich,
- 31:22Speaker 2: Douglas Fairbanks Junior, like her husband Rudolph and Rudolph's mistress,
- 31:26Speaker 2: like just everybody all at once. But yeah, there's the
- 31:33Speaker 2: thing as well. In Hollywood at the time and across
- 31:37Speaker 2: America actually is there was a thing called a lavender marriage.
- 31:40Speaker 2: And a lavender marriage was that usually put together by studios,
- 31:45Speaker 2: you know, where if one person was like a lesbian
- 31:50Speaker 2: or a gay man, and they would marry them to
- 31:53Speaker 2: make them look like a heteronormative couple, even if even
- 31:58Speaker 2: if say, for example, both of them were by settual, right,
- 32:02Speaker 2: it would be like that because have you ever noticed
- 32:06Speaker 2: that if bisexual people like if a woman is bisexual,
- 32:14Speaker 2: you know, men often think that women are like pretending
- 32:18Speaker 2: to like other women, you know, for performative reasons for men,
- 32:23Speaker 2: or that they can be easily quote unquote turned, you know,
- 32:28Speaker 2: and that gay men are going to be obsessed with them.
- 32:32Speaker 2: Like it's funny how the very concept of sexuality revolves
- 32:37Speaker 2: around men. And but I digress. So these lavender marriages
- 32:42Speaker 2: would happen. I'm not saying this was one. I'm just
- 32:44Speaker 2: saying that, you know, they assume that both of these
- 32:48Speaker 2: people are going to be promiscuous and they're both gonna,
- 32:51Speaker 2: you know, fuck men. But the point is that they
- 32:55Speaker 2: wanted it to look like this was a marriage, a
- 33:00Speaker 2: real march Jeniu marrige. But it's Hollywood, so how much
- 33:03Speaker 2: is real? So yeah, these uh, there's rumors that she
- 33:07Speaker 2: was having a wee thing. We don't Catford those rumors
- 33:10Speaker 2: she was having a thing with May West. You know,
- 33:13Speaker 2: just Hollywood's weird, That's all I'm saying. So, like the
- 33:17Speaker 2: whole thing with her Banks Junior is if she was
- 33:20Speaker 2: chatting to somebody that she was you know, interested in
- 33:24Speaker 2: always interested in her is she would let him listening
- 33:27Speaker 2: on the phone call and then let him go like
- 33:30Speaker 2: absolutely ape shit ranting about her suitors, which is I mean,
- 33:36Speaker 2: it's a level of like petty that I don't want
- 33:39Speaker 2: to aspire to. But also I appreciate her tenacity. But yes,
- 33:45Speaker 2: this is the point where she is box office poison
- 33:48Speaker 2: quote unquote are you know?
- 33:51Speaker 4: And she has some fans, right nineteen thirty nine, good
- 34:01Speaker 4: bunch of fans, and.
- 34:04Speaker 2: One of which is you know, the leader of the
- 34:06Speaker 2: third right, So not the kind of fans you want,
- 34:10Speaker 2: you know, I get it, I get it. I wouldn't
- 34:12Speaker 2: want anyone following me or being interested in me. I
- 34:16Speaker 2: don't want Nazis like in any capacity to be supportive
- 34:21Speaker 2: of me, like I don't. I don't want you, just
- 34:24Speaker 2: like I don't want conservatives or Republicans. I want decent
- 34:27Speaker 2: human beings who actually, you know, don't need explain to
- 34:31Speaker 2: them that you should care about other people. That basic
- 34:36Speaker 2: empathy is not virtue signaling, you know, not keen on
- 34:42Speaker 2: that in any capacity, not my thing, No, thank you byeye.
- 34:50Speaker 2: So yeah, she's not doing me on the box office.
- 34:54Speaker 2: But you know that's right. The Nazi government, you know,
- 35:03Speaker 2: Nazi Germany. They contact her and they request that she
- 35:09Speaker 2: stars in a range of propaganda films, you know, to
- 35:13Speaker 2: show how amazing Germany is and the third rich and
- 35:16Speaker 2: everything that goes along with that. But like two years previously,
- 35:20Speaker 2: she had already applied for American citizenship and she was
- 35:25Speaker 2: like ready to renounce. And she says what she was doing,
- 35:27Speaker 2: she was renouncing her German citizenship because she was like,
- 35:30Speaker 2: I'm not fucking involved with this bullshit. I'm not my circus,
- 35:34Speaker 2: not my monkeys. No, thank you, adios Aidolf, like fuck off, no,
- 35:42Speaker 2: and very much a fuck this for a game of socials.
- 35:45Speaker 2: But when they request, when they contact her, when they
- 35:50Speaker 2: ask her to be in these propaganda movies, she simply
- 35:55Speaker 2: responds nine, just nine, like oh, we love you, You're
- 36:05Speaker 2: amazing when you to be in this movie? Want you
- 36:07Speaker 2: to promote her horrific fascist agenda? No, like I love it.
- 36:14Speaker 2: It's like the same, uh, the same feeling I get
- 36:18Speaker 2: about Princess Alice of Battenberg where she's just like letting
- 36:23Speaker 2: a cigarette and just being like no, like I love it,
- 36:27Speaker 2: like no, like I love it, Just putting the ash
- 36:32Speaker 2: out on the fucking soldiers like shoes, Like no, like
- 36:38Speaker 2: that's also terrifying. You've got gobbles and debt. Lar Be
- 36:42Speaker 2: being like come be in her movies, get to fuck me.
- 36:48Speaker 2: No oh, actually no, I'm correction correction already. No, it
- 36:54Speaker 2: wasn't nineteen thirty nine. It was nineteen thirty seven, so
- 36:57Speaker 2: it was like pre war. So like she was watching
- 37:01Speaker 2: what was happening in Germany and they're like, come and
- 37:04Speaker 2: support her homeland and she's like, no, no, she doesn't
- 37:10Speaker 2: want to be involved in that, and like straight away
- 37:12Speaker 2: it's actually after this straight away she's like, nope, citizenship,
- 37:15Speaker 2: thanks bye bye, and that's what she does. She doesn't
- 37:18Speaker 2: renounce her German citizenship citizenship until nineteen thirty nine, when
- 37:24Speaker 2: you know, the war technically starts and she's like definitely gone,
- 37:28Speaker 2: thanks by, but yeah, bold move and we love it.
- 37:33Speaker 2: So Marlena Dietrich she actually starts fundraising to get Jews
- 37:41Speaker 2: out of Germany. So she starts like raising money for
- 37:44Speaker 2: Jewish refugees and she ends up donating what was it
- 37:50Speaker 2: her entire salary from one of her films in nineteen
- 37:53Speaker 2: thirty seven, you know, like half a million dollars. I
- 37:57Speaker 2: think it is like towards this like fundraising, and when
- 38:03Speaker 2: World War two breaks out, like she like doubles down
- 38:07Speaker 2: on it, so like she'd gone back to Paramount, tried
- 38:10Speaker 2: a romantic comedy. Things did not go down well, Yes,
- 38:14Speaker 2: the movie was a Knight without Armor. So then when
- 38:17Speaker 2: obviously the war breaks out, World War two, is she
- 38:19Speaker 2: becomes one of the first like celebrities, you know, public
- 38:23Speaker 2: figures to start selling war bonds. And the biggest part
- 38:27Speaker 2: is is like she actually sells more war bonds than
- 38:32Speaker 2: any other like person, any other celebrity, any other She
- 38:38Speaker 2: sells the fucking most, because of course she does. Like
- 38:42Speaker 2: she even then starts doing like the USO sort of thing,
- 38:46Speaker 2: like the tours where she visits the troops, and so
- 38:49Speaker 2: she even goes like pretty close to the German front and.
- 38:57Speaker 5: She gets she gets contacted by the OSSes, so the
- 39:02Speaker 5: big of the British sort of secret service, and they
- 39:05Speaker 5: ask her to make a series of recordings in German,
- 39:10Speaker 5: the whole purpose of which is to demoralize German soldiers,
- 39:15Speaker 5: which I mean, I don't know how you can bring
- 39:17Speaker 5: down the.
- 39:18Speaker 2: Morale of Nazis, because you know, they're Nazis and pretty
- 39:23Speaker 2: shite human beings. And lack again empathy and consideration. But yes,
- 39:29Speaker 2: she's so she ends up doing these recordings, which is
- 39:32Speaker 2: fucking brilliant, like and and so like you'd think, you know,
- 39:40Speaker 2: she's doing the bonds, she's raising money for Jewish refugees.
- 39:44Speaker 2: She's ah, she's got these weird messages going on. She's
- 39:50Speaker 2: visiting trips near the front like, yeah, but j Ed
- 39:56Speaker 2: Groover is convinced that's right. President of America is kin evinced. No,
- 40:01Speaker 2: he wasn't the President of America. That's a lie. He
- 40:03Speaker 2: was ahead of the FBI. Fuck me, I'm tired. I'm
- 40:07Speaker 2: so sorry. So he's the head of the FBI, and
- 40:10Speaker 2: he's like that bitch is a German spy, and he
- 40:15Speaker 2: ends up having her tracked and followed, which I feel
- 40:17Speaker 2: was not the best use of you know, those money
- 40:22Speaker 2: and manpower just feels like a waste really. So they
- 40:27Speaker 2: end up like tracking her and like stogging her and
- 40:31Speaker 2: like going through her mail and whatnot. And they don't find,
- 40:35Speaker 2: you know, any like conspiracy in any spying. What they
- 40:38Speaker 2: do find is delicious details and so many, so many lovers,
- 40:47Speaker 2: just an abundance of lovers, some might say. And so
- 40:55Speaker 2: during World War Two, as well, which is like so
- 40:58Speaker 2: fucking funny is that people assumed that she was easy,
- 41:03Speaker 2: you know, because she was known to have all these lovers,
- 41:06Speaker 2: and they thought, you know, they think if you're bisexual,
- 41:08Speaker 2: you're clearly as slut, right, That's just how they do things.
- 41:13Speaker 2: And so ma'am would come up to her and they'd
- 41:16Speaker 2: be like trying to get it all, and she was like,
- 41:17Speaker 2: I'll sleep with you over Hitler's dead body. So i
- 41:22Speaker 2: will sleep with you over Hitler's dead body, Like yeah, yeah,
- 41:27Speaker 2: when he's dead, then i'll consider you. You absolute call kwombo.
- 41:31Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, she wasn't really into the whole fascist
- 41:36Speaker 2: Germany situation, unlike her sister, who was like running a cinema,
- 41:42Speaker 2: hosting things for Nazi trips and just generally supporting them.
- 41:47Speaker 2: And so when she tries to get to the States,
- 41:50Speaker 2: she expects Malena to like help her get there, and
- 41:53Speaker 2: she's like, no, I'm disowning you and her husband and
- 41:56Speaker 2: your son because you know, nazis not happening. I mean, well,
- 42:02Speaker 2: she kept them safe at first, and she vouched them
- 42:05Speaker 2: and she was like, they didn't do it, they were
- 42:07Speaker 2: just in a bad situation. And then over time she
- 42:09Speaker 2: was like, no, actually, their fucking assholes. I'm done with them,
- 42:12Speaker 2: which you know, I respect, I respect being like doing
- 42:16Speaker 2: it alive with people who allied with Nazis feels like
- 42:19Speaker 2: a good letmus test, you know, shitty family aside, Molina
- 42:25Speaker 2: gets awarded the Jons d'arneus from France and the US
- 42:30Speaker 2: Medal of Freedom for extraordinary record entertaining trips overseas during
- 42:36Speaker 2: the war. But like, she gets his award and that's
- 42:41Speaker 2: going great, but uh yeah, yeah, still not creating the
- 42:47Speaker 2: box office, so her professional life is not it's not
- 42:52Speaker 2: going well, but again, person not so bad. So at
- 43:03Speaker 2: this point, Marie's in boarding school. So she she gets
- 43:05Speaker 2: to school, which is nice. So her daughter's in school,
- 43:08Speaker 2: and she'll go vis her husband and she'll go visit well,
- 43:10Speaker 2: her husband and as mistress and Tamara, that's her name, Tamara,
- 43:17Speaker 2: and so she would go there and go to parties,
- 43:19Speaker 2: and she would just take these long trips and use
- 43:22Speaker 2: it as excuses to go sort of connect with, you know,
- 43:27Speaker 2: other celebrities and other well known people like honest fucking
- 43:30Speaker 2: came Away and things things are, you know, they're warming
- 43:37Speaker 2: up for her and she ends up having these long
- 43:42Speaker 2: love affairs. She's got free, she's got Mercedes de a Costa,
- 43:50Speaker 2: she's got Dolores Deriu and so on and so forth.
- 43:55Speaker 2: You know, I mean, she's she's getting around, she's getting around. Basically,
- 44:02Speaker 2: there's you know, a rotating door. It's rotating, revolving. It's
- 44:10Speaker 2: a revolving door of lovers and they're just going through.
- 44:14Speaker 2: And one of our lovers, Jean Charpin, he is so
- 44:19Speaker 2: mad that she's like sleeping with other people. And she's like,
- 44:25Speaker 2: you knew this when you got in this with me,
- 44:27Speaker 2: Like I'm married and you were here staying with me
- 44:31Speaker 2: in my house, and you're mad, I'm sleeping with someone else,
- 44:34Speaker 2: Like what feels like a double standard. And he would
- 44:38Speaker 2: respond to her actions with his fucking fists. He would
- 44:43Speaker 2: beat the shit out of her, and clearly not wanting
- 44:46Speaker 2: to take things lying down, she decided to just nope
- 44:50Speaker 2: out of that situation. No, not dealing with that, which
- 44:54Speaker 2: again fair, but she did get like a wee bit
- 44:57Speaker 2: of revenge, which I am proud of as like, so
- 45:00Speaker 2: he'd gone back to France for reasons, and he left
- 45:03Speaker 2: like a bunch of really expensive paintings behind, and that
- 45:06Speaker 2: he was planning to come back and deal with and
- 45:08Speaker 2: she just fucking sells them all because of course she does,
- 45:13Speaker 2: which is, you know, the least she could do, considering
- 45:16Speaker 2: he beat the crab out of our absolute shit bag.
- 45:18Speaker 4: Oh.
- 45:19Speaker 2: Actually, here's one of my favorite stories about my Windy Trick.
- 45:21Speaker 2: Is like she'd gone out to like a bar, and
- 45:24Speaker 2: she was flirting with a serviceman at a bar, as
- 45:27Speaker 2: one does girls like a man in uniform. What can
- 45:30Speaker 2: I say? Girls like a girl in uniform with like
- 45:33Speaker 2: women in uniform, not girls. I don't want a girls,
- 45:35Speaker 2: get that's creepy. I want a woman in a will
- 45:39Speaker 2: cut suit sing or a man and a will cut suit,
- 45:45Speaker 2: or a man or a woman her gender non conforming
- 45:49Speaker 2: person and a cozy cardigan. Everyone that's keetting a cozy
- 45:53Speaker 2: cardigan anyway, like an owl. Oh okay, the medicine's kicking in.
- 46:04Speaker 2: So yeah, Marlina is flirting with a serviceman and a bar,
- 46:10Speaker 2: and he is so taken with her that his wife
- 46:13Speaker 2: actually cites her as the reason for their divorce, even
- 46:16Speaker 2: though they didn't no more than like flirting a fucking bar.
- 46:20Speaker 2: But anyway, her film career is not doing great, and
- 46:23Speaker 2: so she ends up going back to the stage. So
- 46:26Speaker 2: from like the nineteen fifties all the way up to
- 46:29Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, she's in you know, she's on the stage.
- 46:34Speaker 2: She's doing cabaret like performances, like she's in Paris, London,
- 46:40Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Berlin, like she's she goes on the stage
- 46:46Speaker 2: tour in Europe like in like the sixties, early sixties,
- 46:51Speaker 2: and she ends up in Berlin, which is well, it's
- 46:57Speaker 2: still split, it's separated at this point. So she goes
- 47:00Speaker 2: to West Berlin and she gets booed to, like Marlena
- 47:04Speaker 2: go home and they're like totally pissed at her. And
- 47:09Speaker 2: there I think there's like two bomb threats for the
- 47:12Speaker 2: stage that she's on, and it's like she's like shaken
- 47:16Speaker 2: up by this obviously. But then when she goes to
- 47:19Speaker 2: East Berlin and she performs there, everyone's like yay Marlena.
- 47:23Speaker 2: So you know, swings and roundabouts. But yeah, she's out touring,
- 47:26Speaker 2: she's performing, she's singing, she's doing her stuff, and even
- 47:30Speaker 2: though she's doing all this, she's still doing a bunch
- 47:32Speaker 2: of other people. So at one point she's she's in
- 47:37Speaker 2: a relationship with You'll Brunner, you know from the King
- 47:40Speaker 2: and I You'll Brenner, who's yeah, the man who like
- 47:48Speaker 2: was involved in the Vietnam Baby situation like with the
- 47:54Speaker 2: Playboy and it's madness. It's wild anyway. So she's with
- 48:00Speaker 2: Todd and George Bernard Shaw and John Wayne and Kirk
- 48:03Speaker 2: Douglas and Frank Sinnatra like she is just getting into
- 48:12Speaker 2: everybody and like her and Riddolph are still buried at
- 48:17Speaker 2: this point, and like she is supporting them, like financially,
- 48:24Speaker 2: she buys them a ranch in California and it gets
- 48:32Speaker 2: It doesn't go well for Rudolf's mistress though, because she's
- 48:37Speaker 2: ill and she starts like declining like mentally, and she
- 48:42Speaker 2: gets agrophobia and she's like stops eating and speaking, and
- 48:47Speaker 2: she ends up getting committed to a mental institute, you know,
- 48:51Speaker 2: because they're like she needs to go here, and she
- 48:53Speaker 2: goes there and another inmate attacks her and kills her.
- 49:00Speaker 2: And like she had been with you know, we're all
- 49:03Speaker 2: super for like thirty five years. Like Maria saw her
- 49:07Speaker 2: as like another mother, and yeah, she passed away. It's
- 49:12Speaker 2: passed away. She was fucking killed. So like in the
- 49:16Speaker 2: sixties and the seventies, so like throughout that period, like
- 49:20Speaker 2: she starts using various techniques to mold her body. So
- 49:27Speaker 2: she does like spanks. Before spanks, she has quote unquote
- 49:31Speaker 2: body sculpting undergarments, you know, shapewear, and so she's like
- 49:37Speaker 2: making the shape where and like wearing it. And she's
- 49:40Speaker 2: also doing non surgical facelips. It's tape. It's all taped,
- 49:44Speaker 2: so she like tapes her face back and then puts
- 49:46Speaker 2: a wig on and she like disguises it, and she
- 49:50Speaker 2: has this fucking brilliant quote. So she says, cattle grooming
- 49:55Speaker 2: may take twenty years off a woman's age, but you
- 49:59Speaker 2: can't a flight of stairs. So yeah, you might be
- 50:04Speaker 2: like conjuring and taping her face back and stable in
- 50:08Speaker 2: bits and the wig on, but yeah, yeah that those stairs,
- 50:12Speaker 2: they're still gonna be tough to climb, you know what
- 50:14Speaker 2: I mean. So yeah, she does that, and then in
- 50:17Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five she gets diagnosed with cervical cancer and
- 50:22Speaker 2: this is just not not great for her, and so
- 50:26Speaker 2: she ends up taking like like she's set off medicating
- 50:30Speaker 2: with like boots and pain killers, and it gets to
- 50:34Speaker 2: the point where like this is just like really starts
- 50:39Speaker 2: taking a toll on her and then like things start
- 50:43Speaker 2: going wrong with her legs, like the circulation starts going
- 50:46Speaker 2: and she's having a lot of trouble with it. And
- 50:49Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy three she ends up fracturing like her
- 50:54Speaker 2: left her left thigh and she has to get like
- 50:58Speaker 2: skin grafts and a bunch of other stuff so leg
- 51:00Speaker 2: will hume because it just wasn't And then in nineteen
- 51:04Speaker 2: seventy four she falls and breaks her leg, right leg,
- 51:09Speaker 2: so it's like left eye, right leg, and she ends
- 51:12Speaker 2: up like just not being able to like perform properly.
- 51:18Speaker 2: But like at some point during this as well, she
- 51:21Speaker 2: ends up in a movie with David Bowie. David Bowie
- 51:25Speaker 2: Bowie BOI, I don't care she ends up in a movie.
- 51:30Speaker 2: I mean, of all the queer icons to smooth together
- 51:32Speaker 2: in a film, I mean it's not a great film,
- 51:35Speaker 2: but you should still watch it because I mean, i'd
- 51:39Speaker 2: like to say they sing. She kind of sings. She
- 51:42Speaker 2: does what she believes is singing again respect the trip,
- 51:47Speaker 2: Like God, the women had such good style. And yeah,
- 51:53Speaker 2: so she's she's breaking bets all over the place. I've
- 51:57Speaker 2: fucked it up again. She fractures like one leg, she
- 52:00Speaker 2: fractures the other leg, and then in seventy five she
- 52:04Speaker 2: breaks her thighbone and she's like, Okay, no more stage
- 52:07Speaker 2: for me. I'm done now, and she has to basically
- 52:11Speaker 2: like stop doing the whole stage performance because she's too
- 52:14Speaker 2: old to do it now. In seventy six, her husband
- 52:18Speaker 2: Rudolph dies, he passes away, and seventy eight that's when
- 52:25Speaker 2: she's in the justa Jiggalow movie with David Barrye and
- 52:29Speaker 2: like they're in the movie, like she's like the madam
- 52:32Speaker 2: of the brothel and he works for her. It's it's
- 52:36Speaker 2: a movie that exists. So after this, she basically becomes
- 52:41Speaker 2: like a real close herama and she just like goes
- 52:43Speaker 2: back to her little apartment in Paris where she only
- 52:46Speaker 2: has like family or servants, and she doesn't like go anywhere,
- 52:51Speaker 2: but she does spend a lot of time on the phone.
- 52:54Speaker 2: She has a monthly phone bill of like three thousand
- 52:56Speaker 2: quid because she's phoning everybody. So she's phoning world leaders
- 53:02Speaker 2: like Margaret Thatcher and ron o'reagan and this is the
- 53:06Speaker 2: eighties and she's just like calling all these people like
- 53:10Speaker 2: she's trying to save like a Babel's back theater and
- 53:13Speaker 2: so like she's happy to speak, but she doesn't want
- 53:17Speaker 2: to be filmed, which is fair enough. So she's like
- 53:20Speaker 2: chatting to the people and she's trying to like save
- 53:23Speaker 2: like this thing, or she's talking about the fall of
- 53:25Speaker 2: the Berlin Wall and you know it's it's being like
- 53:29Speaker 2: shared across like the BBC and like French radio and
- 53:34Speaker 2: all that jazz and like, allegedly, according to her grandson,
- 53:37Speaker 2: like the reason she had phone up these politicians was
- 53:40Speaker 2: to give out shit to them for being dis I
- 53:43Speaker 2: just love the idea of Malina Ddrich just being on
- 53:45Speaker 2: the phone to Margaret Thatcher being like listen here, beach.
- 53:51Speaker 2: Have you tried, you know, not being a cunt like perhaps,
- 53:56Speaker 2: but yeah, I love the idea of it. So at
- 53:58Speaker 2: one point she gets these calls from a doctor who
- 54:03Speaker 2: offers to like fly out and see her, and she's like,
- 54:08Speaker 2: don't speak to me, and she cuts them off. And
- 54:10Speaker 2: then a few weeks later she allows him to phone
- 54:12Speaker 2: her again and he's like, I'm spending ninety dollars an
- 54:15Speaker 2: hour on this therapist and she's like, why give money
- 54:19Speaker 2: to the therapist when you can give money to me,
- 54:22Speaker 2: And so like he sends her a check and she
- 54:24Speaker 2: like sings to him on the phone every night, like
- 54:28Speaker 2: that's commitment. So Marlena she becomes bedridden and just can't
- 54:33Speaker 2: go anywhere, and eventually her kidneys give up, and on
- 54:40Speaker 2: the sixth of May nineteen ninety, to the age of ninety,
- 54:45Speaker 2: she passes away from kidney failure in her home in Paris.
- 54:51Speaker 2: Her funeral was a requiem mass held in Paris, which
- 54:54Speaker 2: had like fifteen hundred like mourners with like like dignitaries
- 55:01Speaker 2: and whatnot from Germany, France, England, Spain. The French president
- 55:08Speaker 2: is there and he's got like the Legion of Honor
- 55:10Speaker 2: and everything for her. And yeah, she has her funeral
- 55:14Speaker 2: in France, and she is buried in Berlin, fairly close
- 55:19Speaker 2: to her mother actually, and then like the majority of
- 55:24Speaker 2: hesity is sold to the Steve Tungue Deutsche Kinematic so
- 55:32Speaker 2: becomes like the main part of the exhibition of the
- 55:35Speaker 2: film Filmdhouse in Berlin. And so the family then also
- 55:40Speaker 2: sell like a bunch of goodness, just papers and correspondents
- 55:49Speaker 2: and letters and you know, costumes and props and all
- 55:55Speaker 2: the stuff that she'd taken from like the stage and
- 55:57Speaker 2: movies and all personal effects get sold to like auction,
- 56:02Speaker 2: so you know they're out there. You could buy them
- 56:06Speaker 2: if you had enough money, if you wanted to. So yeah,
- 56:11Speaker 2: thus ends the story of Malina Dietrich, who is yeah,
- 56:19Speaker 2: very polarizing figure in many scenarios. And if you liked
- 56:25Speaker 2: my retailing of the story, even with my gravelly sexe voice,
- 56:29Speaker 2: please feel free to rate in review five stars and
- 56:31Speaker 2: appreciate it. But of course it is recommendation time, so
- 56:37Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna recommend for watching just to jeg A Lottle,
- 56:43Speaker 2: go watch the movie. You should love your best life.
- 56:46Speaker 2: Treat yourself. For reading. I'm gonna suggest it's not a
- 56:53Speaker 2: bloody trend. Just book about adult ADHD. If you run
- 56:58Speaker 2: out it with ADHD, which you may be because you're
- 57:00Speaker 2: listening to me, might want to go read it. And
- 57:04Speaker 2: for listening. For listening David Bowie, go listen to some
- 57:11Speaker 2: David boy Stan maam Ra single the Sky You deserve it.
- 57:17Speaker 2: Go to it and with that I shall bite you.
- 57:21Speaker 2: Good night, adieus allvo of them, my friends, Bye bye,