Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Too corrupt for Trump ! Kimberly Guilfoyle OUT as ambassador to Greece
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ex-Fox News host and ex-fiancé to Don Jr., Kimberly Guilfoy.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Can add another ex to her Winnipeg Wikipedia page. I
- 0:10Speaker 1: love this. Ex-ambassador to Greece. This morning, Guilfoy resigned from
- 0:15Speaker 1: her position at Donald Trump's request. She had become a
- 0:19Speaker 1: political liability after a spree of embarrassing Wall Street Journal
- 0:23Speaker 1: headlines about questionable relationships and allegations of corruption. If oil
- 0:28Speaker 1: denied any wrongdoing, of course, saying, quote, I intend to
- 0:32Speaker 1: vigorously defend my name, my reputation and my integrity. And
- 0:37Speaker 1: that opportunity may come very soon, folks, because today House
- 0:40Speaker 1: Oversight Committee ranking member Robert Garcia released a statement saying, quote,
- 0:45Speaker 1: while your time as ambassador to Greece may be coming
- 0:48Speaker 1: to an end, our investigation has not. Joining us now
- 0:52Speaker 1: is MSNOW legal analyst Mary McCord. She's former acting assistant
- 0:56Speaker 1: attorney general for national security at the Justice Department and
- 1:00Speaker 1: co-host of MSNOW's Maine Justice podcast.
- 1:03Speaker 2: You know, Mary, we really needed your expertise on this today, particularly.
- 1:09Speaker 2: I want to start with the president saying he barely
- 1:11Speaker 2: knows Kimberly. This is a question a reporter asked.
- 1:16Speaker 3: On Kimberly Gufoyle, she was almost a member of your family.
- 1:19Speaker 3: How surprised were you to learn about these allegations?
- 1:21Speaker 4: What did you make of them?
- 1:22Speaker 1: Trump.
- 1:23Speaker 3: No, she wasn't a member of my family. She, I guess,
- 1:27Speaker 3: dated my son a long time ago, but she wasn't. No,
- 1:31Speaker 3: she went to Greece. She was doing a good job,
- 1:33Speaker 3: but we didn't like what we were reading. Kimberly and
- 1:37Speaker 3: Don Jr. were engaged for nearly four years, and they
- 1:39Speaker 3: were together for more than six.
- 1:40Speaker 5: And he's still on her grid, allegedly, the IG grid. Yeah,
- 1:44Speaker 5: he's on the grid. He's still on the grid.
- 1:46Speaker 4: Honestly, well, you know what?
- 1:47Speaker 1: That's a big deal, folks.
- 1:48Speaker 3: As an aside, I will say, if my husband ever
- 1:50Speaker 3: leaves me, I'm leaving all the photos up, but I
- 1:52Speaker 3: am not changing my name.
- 1:53Speaker 4: Y'all going to.
- 1:54Speaker 3: Have to click me to get the pictures off my Instagram, okay?
- 1:56Speaker 3: So on that, I'm going to agree with Kim. But
- 1:59Speaker 3: here's the thing.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Oh, Lord.
- 2:01Speaker 4: All of that being said, who cares.
- 2:03Speaker 3: If she was or wasn't? It wasn't a question about
- 2:05Speaker 3: if she's a member of the president's family, even though
- 2:07Speaker 3: he tried to, like, Mariah Carey her. Like, I don't
- 2:09Speaker 3: know this woman. She was a representative of our government.
- 2:13Speaker 4: She was serving our country.
- 2:14Speaker 3: That's why what she did matters here.
- 2:16Speaker 1: It's crazy.
- 2:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:17Speaker 4: No, like everything, he wants to distance people as soon
- 2:19Speaker 4: as they're no longer useful to him and his in
- 2:22Speaker 4: his view. But to be to be serious for a minute,
- 2:25Speaker 4: I mean, the allegations and they are just allegations at
- 2:27Speaker 4: this point are really serious. We're talking about, you know,
- 2:31Speaker 4: potentially bribery. We're talking about accepting things of value personally
- 2:36Speaker 4: to her. in return for promises to use her influence
- 2:40Speaker 4: with the White House, do official acts as ambassador, at
- 2:43Speaker 4: least according to the, you know, the allegations I've read
- 2:46Speaker 4: about in Wall Street Journal and other reporting. And so
- 2:49Speaker 4: in addition to the congressional inquiry, right, we've got the
- 2:51Speaker 4: inspector general apparently inquiring. And it's interesting because, you know,
- 2:56Speaker 4: Donald Trump, early in his second administration, fired a bunch
- 3:00Speaker 4: of IGs, But if she's not on his good side,
- 3:03Speaker 4: he may let this I.G. actually do a real investigation.
- 3:06Speaker 4: And then we even have the U.S. attorney here in D.C.,
- 3:09Speaker 4: Jeanine Pirro, saying, well, let's let the I.G.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Do the I.G.
- 3:12Speaker 4: 's job before we look into things, because there are
- 3:14Speaker 4: definitely at least, you know, based on the reporting things
- 3:18Speaker 4: to look into. This is public corruption.
- 3:20Speaker 5: My first reaction when I saw this was, well, if
- 3:22Speaker 5: you're too corrupt for this regime, then, man, you really
- 3:25Speaker 5: are corrupt.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Good point.
- 3:26Speaker 5: However, I do think once you start to unpack it
- 3:29Speaker 5: a little bit, there is some personal animosity here that
- 3:31Speaker 5: is likely connected to what the previous relationship was with
- 3:35Speaker 5: the president's son. And that that, honey, I need 100 grand.
- 3:38Speaker 5: It's a very embarrassing thing, even for Donald Trump. And
- 3:41Speaker 5: by the way, that's something that Donald Trump understands. He
- 3:43Speaker 5: understands extortion. And when it's done that plainly, right, he's like, well,
- 3:47Speaker 5: that's not good. I don't want that attached to me
- 3:49Speaker 5: this publicly. But the question I have is when you
- 3:52Speaker 5: see something like this, Mary, and we've talked about just
- 3:55Speaker 5: a complete dereliction of duty they have in any type
- 3:57Speaker 5: of real investigation on themselves, usually had been a hallmark
- 4:01Speaker 5: of our democracy in the last 40 years. So does
- 4:05Speaker 5: it not suggest that if Guilfoyle is doing things like this,
- 4:09Speaker 5: that there are other people in the orbit, perhaps in
- 4:12Speaker 5: ambassadorships for people working abroad on behalf of the United
- 4:15Speaker 5: States government, who are not as well known as her,
- 4:17Speaker 5: who keep their head down, who don't say, honey, I
- 4:20Speaker 5: need $ 100, 000, but know that the ramification from the Trump
- 4:26Speaker 5: administration is bad?
- 4:27Speaker 1: Very little.
- 4:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to speculate about particular people,
- 4:31Speaker 4: but there's no question that since Trump came into power
- 4:33Speaker 4: the second time, he and his DOJ have basically said,
- 4:37Speaker 4: we're not doing public corruption cases. We're not doing Foreign
- 4:40Speaker 4: Corrupt Practices Act cases. So, you know, knock yourself out.
- 4:44Speaker 4: You know what the difference is? Maybe other people aren't
- 4:46Speaker 4: having a record, right? I mean, it's interesting reading how
- 4:49Speaker 4: she chastised Dieters or whatever his name is for putting
- 4:52Speaker 4: things in writing, yet she's the one, honey, can you
- 4:55Speaker 4: give me 100 grand? And you could do it in
- 4:57Speaker 4: ways that don't, you know, reflect, create a paper trail.
- 5:01Speaker 3: She should have sent a voice note, I think. Yeah.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:04Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I do think there's something there to it.
- 5:07Speaker 4: It doesn't mean what others are doing is less illegal
- 5:10Speaker 4: or unethical or corrupt, but some people might be better at,
- 5:15Speaker 4: you know, if.
- 5:15Speaker 5: The stone was ever turned over, the cockroaches running out
- 5:18Speaker 5: of that one would be.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:21Speaker 1: A lot. A lot. A lot. You know, the thing
- 5:24Speaker 1: that struck me about this story was yet Another woman
- 5:29Speaker 1: on the political job chopping block in this administration. And
- 5:35Speaker 1: I find that we were talking just in the last
- 5:36Speaker 1: segment about the female judges that Donald Trump is flouting
- 5:41Speaker 1: the law in front of and doesn't seemingly care about
- 5:43Speaker 1: what their ruling state. Let's talk about the women in
- 5:46Speaker 1: his administration who have been departed by force of hand. Kimberly, today, U.S.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Ambassador to Greece. Kristi Noem, Secretary of Homeland Security. Laurie
- 5:56Speaker 1: Chavez de Riemer, Labor Secretary. Pam Bondi, Attorney General. And yet,
- 6:02Speaker 1: all those highly, highly incompetent men, incredibly incompetent men, I
- 6:08Speaker 1: would say in most cases, certainly incompetent. Far more incompetent
- 6:12Speaker 1: than most of the women on this list. Certainly more
- 6:17Speaker 1: incompetent than Kristi Noem and Pam Bondi, who had, you know,
- 6:21Speaker 1: and even Laurie Chavez de Rima. I mean, women of substance.
- 6:25Speaker 1: I mean, Kimberly, OK, she's the first lady of California.
- 6:27Speaker 1: That at one time, I guess, worked for her. But
- 6:31Speaker 1: the reality of it is, what does that say? That
- 6:36Speaker 1: how easy it is to dismiss women of authority and power.
- 6:40Speaker 1: In this administration, while the men who are the most
- 6:44Speaker 1: incompetent boobs on the planet are the ones who stay
- 6:48Speaker 1: in their jobs.
- 6:49Speaker 4: Well, and replace them with men.
- 6:51Speaker 1: And replace them with men.
- 6:52Speaker 4: We'll see who becomes the next ambassador to Greece. And,
- 6:56Speaker 4: you know, it's women across the board. Look at the
- 6:58Speaker 4: way he treats women in the media.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Right.
- 7:01Speaker 4: I mean, he doesn't use those kind of terms, piggy
- 7:05Speaker 4: and you're stupid with men.
- 7:07Speaker 1: He just doesn't.
- 7:08Speaker 4: You already mentioned other examples. I mean, this is an
- 7:12Speaker 4: issue he has. I think he likes to surround himself
- 7:14Speaker 4: with women of a certain age and a certain hairstyle,
- 7:18Speaker 4: let's just say, and a certain body type. But he
- 7:22Speaker 4: doesn't really want them doing too much, I tend to think,
- 7:26Speaker 4: because when they do, he tends to get rid of them.
- 7:29Speaker 4: Or when they do something that he doesn't like, he's
- 7:32Speaker 4: much less forgiving than he is, it seems to me,
- 7:35Speaker 4: with some of the men like you.
- 7:36Speaker 2: It is such an important point.
- 7:38Speaker 3: I just I want to go back to the overall
- 7:40Speaker 3: thing here about the corruption, because today is Kimberly Gufoyle.
- 7:45Speaker 3: But every single day is the president of the United
- 7:47Speaker 3: States of America. That's right. Like it is not lost
- 7:50Speaker 3: on me that what she did again talked about using
- 7:54Speaker 3: her position to make money to promise favors.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Honestly, it's what the president does all the time.
- 8:00Speaker 3: And he's doing it out in the open.
- 8:01Speaker 4: The number's much bigger. I mean, think about actually the
- 8:04Speaker 4: way he's ordered the dismissal of big, major fraud investigations
- 8:10Speaker 4: for people who've bilked others out of hundreds of thousands
- 8:13Speaker 4: of dollars because they're connected with a PAC that gave
- 8:16Speaker 4: him money for his campaign. This pay-for-play is happening every day.
- 8:21Speaker 4: Look at the way he works with the tech bros, right?
- 8:24Speaker 4: And it is daily. And so that's another respect of
- 8:28Speaker 4: the— In a way, another respect of how this is
- 8:31Speaker 4: just unfair, right? He's going to get rid of her
- 8:34Speaker 4: for something that is corrupt while.
- 8:37Speaker 1: He is being corrupt.
- 8:38Speaker 5: Quickly, before we leave, do you ever think that we
- 8:39Speaker 5: can find out what actually happened in all these cases
- 8:42Speaker 5: or these are just too many?
- 8:44Speaker 4: Well, there is a lot. I mean, you know, one
- 8:47Speaker 4: thing I think I can say for sure, if there
- 8:49Speaker 4: if there is a changeover in Congress, you know, after
- 8:53Speaker 4: this election is finished, we will see Congress at least
- 8:56Speaker 4: waking up and trying to do oversight. We'll probably see
- 8:58Speaker 4: a lot of pushback from the administration. And we will
- 9:02Speaker 4: see potentially a future Department of Justice looking into some
- 9:05Speaker 4: of these things.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Click below.
- 9:32Speaker 4: Thanks.