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Lunch with the Clydesdale - What is the One Thing that Brings Laura Horvath Back to the Games? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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That morning alarm clock rang early this
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morning after the wild weekend of sports
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we had.
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We talked a lot about it last night,
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but I got more to say.
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I love the chase and the hunt,
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and I set the pace when I'm running.
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I always take what I want,
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and I always give it one hundred.
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Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
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Play the game like it's nothing.
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I'm always thankful for something.
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Don't take for granted, stay humble.
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Now wake up!
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It's time to look at the enemy.
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Look in the mirror if he is no
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friend to me.
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what is going on everybody it is lunchtime
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on a monday so what's going on i
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uh i had my ct scan finally on
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my sinuses today so just got to wait
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for that to head on over to my
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ent doctor uh so we can discuss what
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the next steps are with my sinuses um
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pretty quick and painless just laid on a
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slab of metal got put well not metal
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but then got put into the the big
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cone of magnets had all that done and
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i was telling carolyn and jamie that after
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the show last night and they're like you
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know you think with all the technology
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that we've advanced in this world there'd
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be a better way to take a picture
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of like the inside of the human body
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that isn't this big tube with magnets
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circling around all the other technology
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that's like been advanced in medical
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science and around the world and in
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computers and all of that stuff we still
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we still have the big tube with the
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magnets
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That is extremely noisy, extremely loud,
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and very, very uncomfortable.
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Thank goodness I only had to go in
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for my head.
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I didn't have to go the whole way
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in the tube, but man, wild.
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Train all of CT scans are so
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uncomfortable.
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Yeah, but it's over.
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I actually have to do a second one,
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like November twenty fifth on my voice box
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for the pulmonologist.
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So had to do one today for the
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ENT.
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Had to have to do one the twenty
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fifth for the pulmonologist.
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I don't know why they couldn't combine
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them into one.
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They're so close.
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Just inch me in the tube a little
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bit further.
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Get it all done in one foul swoop.
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But I guess...
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I guess it is for,
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they get to charge me for both now,
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right, I guess.
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They don't run a BOGO deal on the
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old CT scans.
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So, got a lot of people here already.
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Seven Easter's refugees.
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He's here first because we have nowhere
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else to go.
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Well, I hope,
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I hope you're here for other reasons, but,
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you know, I get it.
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Train Olive, Corey Leonard, Shanna Bunce,
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Joseph Ramirez, Jody Lynn, and Vicky.
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We got a lot of people in the
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house already.
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Craig Pasley and Denise Moore.
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So what's going on?
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um denise says do you have to do
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die for the other scan no i don't
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think either one of them are with contrast
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um so it's really just really just a
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basic ct scan i was really in and
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out in like less than ten minutes maybe
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it didn't seem very long anyway uh super
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quick so but they're at two different
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imaging centers so maybe that's it too um
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i don't know
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Joseph Ramirez,
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where does Penn state go from here?
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Um, I don't know, man.
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I've really, it was really funny Saturday.
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You know, they were here in Columbus.
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Usually I'm like really anxious because I,
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you know, if,
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if they lose to Ohio state, I,
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I hear about it for a week straight.
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I hate that so much.
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And then, uh,
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this year i just didn't care like the
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the penn state's so bad right now like
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it just doesn't even matter and it
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actually gave me a more relaxing saturday
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i went to my nephews um he just
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had a baby a couple months ago so
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we hung out there got to see the
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baby um do all that stuff it was
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it was pretty good
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So I'm not dwelling on every play of
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a Penn State game,
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which has been kind of relaxing.
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And then I can focus all my attention
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on the Chicago Bears,
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who gave me six heart attacks yesterday in
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two minutes.
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Wow.
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What a crazy, crazy day.
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Missed last night's live,
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but just finished watching.
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Great show as always.
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Thank you so much.
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If you think CT bad,
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try an MRI much, much longer.
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Yeah,
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I've had when I had my back surgeries,
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I've had MRIs and those are like forty
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five minutes to fifty minutes long.
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That was bad.
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And that was fully in the tube as
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opposed to just my head in the tube.
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I'd much rather do the CT than the
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MRI.
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I wasn't saying the technology thing from
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a discomfort standpoint.
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I was saying you would think with all
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the advancements
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the way to take a picture inside the
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person you would think they'd come up with
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something different but maybe there's no
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need maybe that like they're just happy
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with what they have and there's nobody out
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there trying to solve a problem over that
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so i don't know maybe
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So I wanted to take this time to
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just a huge shout out to Holly Dugan,
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who is our stats and info person.
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What she does for us is so unsung.
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If you ever go to our videos after
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the live,
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um almost all of them are chaptered out
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you can look at the bottom of the
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screen and you um and you can see
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all of the topics that we talk about
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throughout a show she is responsible for
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all of that she puts that in there
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um i just copy and paste it into
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the show notes and it automatically
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populates into the youtube where you can
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then if you just want to see a
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topic we've talked about you can go
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directly to that and that is all holly
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And I thank her for that.
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Last night during the show,
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one person in the chat said,
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wouldn't it be nice if we had a
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chart that showed the CrossFit game season
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for different types of athletes?
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And I swear she didn't even go to
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bed last night,
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but she put this out on Instagram
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overnight last night.
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And so I want to just show you
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what she has come up with.
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Now,
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it's hard to see unless I blow this
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up, and I will blow it up.
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But here's the master season.
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It goes from the open to quarterfinals.
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Talks about the rules for that.
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Semifinals.
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talks about who qualifies for that,
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and then she lists out all of the
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semifinals that are available in person.
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So there's Legends, French Throwdown,
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Magic City, Torian Pro,
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the online semifinal, and the LATAM.
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All the dates,
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how many people they're taking,
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and then how many people qualify.
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So, well,
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that doesn't have how many they're taking.
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She has something like that.
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It's coming soon.
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And so she did that for every.
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So here's just elite individuals and all
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of the hit all the semifinals listed.
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There we go.
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She did it for teams.
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There's the teams where they can qualify
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for.
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she even did it for adaptive even though
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it's a very simple process for the
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adaptive athletes oh that's the teens and
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then there's the adaptive um she's
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actually putting together a document for
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us uh that actually show all the rules
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for each semi-final um and
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many people they are inviting the
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invitation process if it is available on
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their website or a document that she could
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find um right now it's in a really
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like archaic spreadsheet um but she's
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trying to figure out a way to make
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it pretty um but she's working on that
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and those all of this came out of
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questions from last night's show and here
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we are
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This morning,
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we already have all these products she's
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put out there and this spreadsheet that
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you wouldn't even believe.
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It takes, say, Syndicate Crown,
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and the spreadsheet says how they're
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inviting people to that event,
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how many people are qualifying from that
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event.
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And everything.
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It's just so much stuff.
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And she deserves so much credit.
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If you're not following her on Instagram,
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go give her a follow.
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It's at data wad.
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She does so much for us.
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Every time there's a competition this
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weekend,
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especially like all of the leaderboards
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that come out on our website or on
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our Instagram are from her.
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She does all the leaderboards who won
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every event top five, who,
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And then the standings after each day,
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she just, she's just incredible.
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And I just want to give her her
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kudos for doing all that because she
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it gives us a presence that, um,
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that we wouldn't have otherwise.
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And she,
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what I love the most is when I
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go to like an athlete's page and I
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see that she has changed that,
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that athlete has shared our leaderboard
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because of how Holly does it.
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And it looks so good that she, um,
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she just keeps, um,
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doing this and they share them and she
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tags everybody in that.
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It's so cool.
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Um,
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I saw a ton of them being shared
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this weekend and that's why we did it
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initially.
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We did that for legends a couple of
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years ago and the athletes loved it.
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Um,
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and they just started sharing them and it
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gave them something other than a
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leaderboard to share something that was
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pretty and that was formatted for
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Instagram as opposed to going to
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competition corner and trying to
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screenshot it all.
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So Jonathan,
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she should keep it as a Google sheet.
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And when you click on the comp,
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it gives you the notes on the separate
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sheet.
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She's doing all of that stuff.
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But she's not a Google person.
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She's an Excel person.
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So it's all in an Excel spreadsheet that
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she's working on right now.
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And if you didn't see her running
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charts...
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Let me see if I can find that
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real quick.
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Like the creative stuff she's done.
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Let me do this one and share.
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So if you guys didn't see this,
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this is the top five at Rogue and
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how their finishes went over the weekend
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and where their placements were during
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that event.
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So you can see that Lucy Campbell and
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Olivia Kerstetter started off low and then
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had to bounce back and how it fluctuated
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throughout the week.
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These are the things she's putting
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together.
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She did this last night as well,
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which is really crazy.
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So I just love the effort she's putting
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in and I could not appreciate her anymore.
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I'm really pumped for all the stuff she's
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putting out.
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Wanted to take a second to give her
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her due because most of the stuff,
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and I know other people in the space
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like Siobhan talk about his team and how
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you don't have to tell them anything they
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just do.
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That is Holly.
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I don't even have to ask her anything.
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Now, if I do ask her something,
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I usually get something within a few
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hours.
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But most of the time,
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what she puts out is all her own
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idea or she heard something on a show.
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And so she's reacting to the audience or
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the chat.
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But yeah, she just does, which is really,
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really awesome.
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Yeah.
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And then she shares it with me.
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And what was crazy,
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she put out so much overnight.
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This morning she sends me a text
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apologizing for putting out so much
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content.
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And I was like, wait a second.
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Do not apologize.
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Keep it coming.
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You are awesome.
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No need to apologize.
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You do you,
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and I am here to support every single
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bit of it.
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So...
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wanted to to go back and talk about
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a couple things from last night's show
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that kind of stuck with me a little
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bit and one is the innovations that rogue
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brings every year you you can pick apart
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different things if you want to
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But this year,
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what they did with the broadcast,
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we've been talking for weeks before Rogue
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launched about how Hamilton Road's
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production of a CrossFit event has not
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changed since twenty twelve.
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It's been the same graphics,
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the same storyboard getting into the event
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and out of the event that that has
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been there for for thirteen years.
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And what I loved about what Rogue did
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is they're always trying something new.
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Now, you may not like what they're doing,
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but they're trying different things.
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And some of the innovations I thought were
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spectacular.
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Now,
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whether they're affordable for another
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production company to do like the CrossFit
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Games or not,
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I don't know whether the CrossFit Games
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even watches what happened at Rogue to
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take notes on that and try to do
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something different.
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I'm not even sure I'm confident in that.
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But the three D graphics were awesome.
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What it did for the dual made that
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event so much more entertaining and so
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much easier to understand.
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Kudos to them using the cable cam or
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the spider cam or whatever you want to
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call it.
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to go up and down the sides on
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remote to follow the athletes up and down
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the field of play using different angles,
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zooming in, zooming out,
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giving some different angles to the field
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of play that we have not had ever
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was huge.
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The indoor run at the venue was fantastic.
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It allowed you to experience a little bit
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of what it was like to be there
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in person,
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seeing Vendor Village and having cameramen
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all around the running path to see
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different athletes at different times
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instead of just like one person on a
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golf cart in front of the lead runner.
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um showing that for the entire time we
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got different angles from different spaces
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all around the running track that gave it
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more of a story than just people on
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a golf cart in front of the lead
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person and they probably couldn't run a
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golf cart in the middle of the the
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indoor arena anyway but you get my point
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at the crossfit games when there's running
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events it's generally a golf cart or
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a bicyclist out in front filming
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everything from the lead.
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All you're getting is the lead person.
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This way we got people all throughout the
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pack, which was very, very refreshing.
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And you could tell that the director of
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the production was going to say,
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was trying to get every finish as people
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came across the line.
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they would watch the lead person come
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through and start to look at them a
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little bit,
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but then flashed immediately to the next
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person as they were crossing the line.
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Did they get that perfect every time?
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No,
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but you could tell that the effort was
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there to not just hang out on the
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winner longer than it took for the second
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person to come across the finish line.
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So the innovations that they have come up
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with,
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The things that they try are awesome.
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I know last night we talked about that
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they gave away what they used to call
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the tailgate show for free,
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which was you could go on the website
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and you could actually go picture and
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picture up to four items,
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four cameras that were in the arena and
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show them all at the same time.
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So you could have the cable,
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what they called the cable view.
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You could have the side view,
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a ceiling cam.
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You could have like an end zone wide
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shot.
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And then they had a leader cam.
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And you could put all of those up
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at the same time and get different angles
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and see different things of the race all
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at the same time.
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And in this day and age where people
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are watching multiple screens to watch
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events, I found that to be very,
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very rewarding.
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Now,
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Jamie argues that she would never go to
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a website when it's available on YouTube.
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And I know that there are people addicted
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to the chats in YouTube and would never
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leave that to go to maybe an innovation
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like this.
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But I, on the other hand,
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would rather see the race so I can
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look at it and talk about it the
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next day and have all of those different
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angles.
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And for me,
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it's worth going to the website to do
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that.
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What they do that is best case scenario
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is they offer both.
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It is live on YouTube for those people
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who want to go to YouTube and to
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want to be in the chat.
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It is also available on the website with
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all the camera angles and all of the
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bells and whistles that you get there.
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And so people can choose which way they
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want to watch the event.
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I love the innovation of the multiple
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cameras and that you get to direct what
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you want to see.
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To me, that is well worth it.
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Even when it was twenty five dollars for
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the weekend,
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I paid it every single year because it
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allowed me to see the whole field much,
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much better.
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But I get it.
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I get that people are addicted to being
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in the chats and talking about the events
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as it goes on.
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I know that's part of the community
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aspect.
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So what was really cool is that Rogue
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offered both.
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So.
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So what I want to say about that,
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because there is this other entity,
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and as CrossFit would say right now,
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heading into my smear campaign,
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there's this other entity, WFP,
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that keeps saying they want to be
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innovating.
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They want to do these things.
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but they're doing it in a way where
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it's either all or nothing.
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And they may have good reasons why that
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is.
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They may have perfectly fine explanations
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why they can't be on YouTube.
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And I've said on here that I think
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it's because they're courting an online
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streaming service and the online streaming
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service wants to know what the numbers
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would be straight to something other than
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YouTube.
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So they cannot taint the numbers by using
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YouTube.
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regardless it's all or nothing and what's
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happening with what's happening with them
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is they're losing interest in that because
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it's rip off the band-aid we're going all
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the way over here and you're gonna like
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it and then there are people that are
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just addicted to being in the chat who
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do not like it so
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what i'll say about that like it's not
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a smear campaign it's just your business
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plan and your business plan was to make
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a mass change and that mass change meant
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you're switching everybody from one way to
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another and there are people that are
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going to uh ride against that so um
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what is wfp jody uh joseph says it
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uh some bush league thing
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Yeah.
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It's a league that I hope was watching
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Rogue and saw how they did things and
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maybe will change their outlook as to how
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to cover an event.
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Last night I was talking about the
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lighting.
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WFP is so into their lighting,
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yet Rogue takes their own lighting rig as
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well to an event.
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And what they had last night or this
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weekend was off the chain.
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It was so crisp around the edges.
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You could see every lane plain as day.
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You could see the finish line the whole
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way across.
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There were no shadows or darkness to it.
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And it made it a very awesome viewing
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experience for the spectator at home.
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But it also had like different colored
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lights.
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It had different things going on that I
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hope that the WFP looked at and said,
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that's what we have to be more like,
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not having an event in the shadows.
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I don't know what that – and I
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like what they're trying to do,
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and I like that they have the spotlights
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coming down the field telling the story,
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but there's just misses along the way that
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are making it easy to pick on them
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about.
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Jonathan,
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I like that WFP is sticking to their
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own thing and doing whatever the F they
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want.
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It's their money, their thing.
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They can do whatever they want.
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It doesn't mean that I don't have opinions
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about it.
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I think the people that built the Titanic
23:06
were very adamant about the way they built
23:08
that ship.
23:10
And they stuck to their guns and they
23:11
wanted to make the cross ocean voyage.
23:15
And we know the end of that.
23:19
Sticking to your guns doesn't always mean
23:21
you're going to be successful.
23:23
That's the point I'm trying to make.
23:26
there have been a lot of people who
23:27
stuck to the guns and were successful so
23:31
we have one year to look at and
23:33
see how we're not even a full year
23:34
through but i here's the thing between
23:40
tour stop one and tour stop two they
23:41
were so inactive and i made comments about
23:44
that and got from everybody about it but
23:47
here we are between tour stop two and
23:48
the championship and you're not seeing any
23:50
content from them again it's like they all
23:53
just stopped
23:55
How do you keep interest in a league
23:57
that's going the whole year long when you
24:00
stop activity coming out from your entity
24:03
for months at a time when there's a
24:06
dead period or a lull in the sport
24:09
itself?
24:11
It makes no sense.
24:14
And they're doing it again.
24:17
But it's their money.
24:20
It's their league.
24:21
They can do it how they want to
24:22
do it.
24:27
a horrible,
24:28
horrible business plan when people are
24:30
starving and starving for content because
24:33
there were, there were weeks before rogue,
24:35
like we had actually until crash,
24:39
like from the end of water Palooza,
24:41
SoCal to crash, nothing.
24:43
Then we had Crash and Rogue.
24:45
Now we're going to have nothing until
24:47
Copenhagen.
24:49
I hope to God they put out some
24:50
stuff promoting this or promoting the
24:53
athletes because right now there's like
24:55
nothing going on.
24:56
And what are the media going to talk
24:58
about?
24:59
But I think that the WFP doesn't want
25:01
the media to talk about them because
25:03
they're afraid what they're going to say.
25:05
So I don't know.
25:06
We'll see.
25:13
Wayne Short,
25:13
the fate of the WP will be decided
25:15
by the athletes.
25:16
If they don't support it,
25:16
the community's opinions don't matter.
25:20
I know, but I run a talk show,
25:21
so we're about opinions.
25:29
So my opinions may not matter,
25:32
but that's what we do.
25:38
Jonathan Ortega,
25:38
probably because their socials person is
25:41
at Rogue doing content for other outlets.
25:44
There you go.
25:47
That's their priority.
25:51
And it's not just social, Jonathan.
25:53
It's all these vignettes that were
25:55
supposed to come.
25:56
It was the promotion of the athletes like
25:58
we've never seen before that was supposed
26:00
to come.
26:01
And I haven't seen any of that.
26:03
It's been a little bit here.
26:05
It's been a little bit like an off
26:06
the clock with Emma tall.
26:09
Um,
26:09
I think we got a second off the
26:11
clock with somebody that's not promoting
26:14
the athletes like they promised.
26:18
I don't.
26:20
And now I just,
26:21
I think they have a huge PR problem
26:23
and because people are saying there's too
26:29
many things going on.
26:31
Um,
26:35
And maybe they're going to have to
26:36
prioritize one over the other.
26:39
And it sounds like from a lot of
26:41
people,
26:42
whether or that it's going to be the
26:44
CrossFit game season as opposed to WFP.
26:47
So I just think they have a huge
26:48
PR problem.
26:50
And that's when I would be out there
26:51
attacking with content and promoting the
26:53
athletes.
26:57
So Dave Anderson,
27:01
where will row go next year?
27:04
So I have no inside information on this,
27:11
but what I heard Katie say on Coffee
27:13
Pods and WODs was talking about how
27:15
they're expanding Rogue Columbus to go
27:19
from four buildings here in Columbus,
27:21
because that's where I live.
27:24
They have four buildings across the city.
27:27
One of those buildings is a big major
27:29
HQ,
27:30
which they have built and expanded once
27:33
already.
27:35
Katie said their plans are to expand it
27:36
again to consolidate down to one building
27:39
again.
27:40
And what I heard in the way she
27:43
said it was,
27:45
I think she'd like to have it in
27:46
Columbus next year to show off the new
27:51
expanded Rogue.
27:54
Now,
27:54
I might be reading more into that than
27:56
was there,
27:58
but that is how I heard it from
27:59
her.
28:01
And I'm not trying to start a rumor
28:03
because she definitely did not say where
28:05
they're going.
28:07
And on Coffee Pods and WOD,
28:09
she said they were going to be done
28:10
in Scotland this year and not come back.
28:12
And then on Savon over the weekend,
28:15
she kind of walked that back a tick
28:18
and said that most likely they're not
28:20
going to be in Scotland next year.
28:23
But she didn't want to talk about the
28:24
future until she was done with the
28:26
weekend.
28:28
So I guess we'll see what happens with
28:30
all of that.
28:31
But I, for one,
28:32
would be ecstatic if they came back to
28:34
Columbus.
28:36
Just makes my life way easier to cover
28:37
it because I can do it from the
28:40
comfort of my own bed.
28:43
And I loved it when it was there
28:44
in twenty nineteen.
28:47
And they were a semifinal that qualified
28:49
people to the games.
28:51
That was one of the.
28:53
most fun competitions i've ever been to
28:57
and it was like a huge party um
29:00
when they built the outdoor venue um and
29:04
there was an outdoor vendor village that
29:05
was packed um it was just great and
29:09
i they never half-ass anything and if they
29:12
can bring money into my city then i
29:14
will be stoked for that
29:20
The other thing I wanted to just finish
29:22
up on is we talked last night in
29:27
our game, pencil, pen, or Sharpie.
29:31
The question was,
29:32
will Laura Horvat do the CrossFit game
29:34
season next year?
29:37
And most of the people said pencil.
29:39
My two co-hosts said pencil.
29:41
And I said pen.
29:42
And I said pen for this reason.
29:46
On one hand,
29:46
I know that Laura is upset with CrossFit
29:49
HQ.
29:51
But outside of the CrossFit Games,
29:53
Laura has pretty much dominated most of
29:57
every competition she's ever been in.
30:00
She has made it clear that she is
30:04
one of the two best female athletes in
30:06
the sport.
30:10
I think that her white whale is Tia.
30:16
And the only way I think she's going
30:18
to have a shot to take that whale
30:20
down and to beat Tia in a competition
30:24
that matters is to do the CrossFit Games
30:26
season.
30:30
So last year, even months ago,
30:34
I would have said it was a pencil
30:35
that that would happen.
30:37
But I'm really edging now towards Penn
30:40
because I think the only big
30:42
accomplishment that matters to Laura at
30:44
this point is to beat Tia.
30:49
If you look at Justin,
30:51
everybody said after Justin won the first
30:53
two years is that he did it after
30:55
Matt had left.
30:58
And if Matt were there,
30:59
Matt still would have won.
31:00
And there's all these whispers around.
31:03
Laura won the games the year that Tia
31:05
took off.
31:08
Laura has beat Tia at Rogue,
31:10
but she was coming off a pregnancy.
31:13
She probably wasn't a hundred percent.
31:15
And there's always the whispers.
31:18
I think Laura wants to go head to
31:20
head with Tia and beat her one time.
31:24
One time to cement her legacy.
31:27
as one of the two greatest female athletes
31:30
in the CrossFit space.
31:33
Because at this point, what else matters?
31:35
She has all the money.
31:37
She's won Rogue a handful of times.
31:39
I mean, she has millions of winnings now.
31:44
What is there left for her to accomplish?
31:47
It's to beat Tia.
31:48
Yeah.
31:50
It's not to win the games.
31:52
It's not to win Rogue.
31:54
It's to beat Tia.
31:57
And in order to do that,
31:58
she's going to have to go to the
31:59
place where Tia is to make that happen.
32:06
It's the only thing left.
32:07
It's the only thing left for her.
32:10
If she beats Tia full strength head to
32:12
head,
32:14
it's going to cement her as one of
32:15
the two greatest female athletes of all
32:17
time.
32:25
Agreed that she should,
32:26
but good luck beating Tia, Claire, Toomey,
32:28
or... Well, I didn't say it was easy.
32:33
But I bet if you asked Justin,
32:38
he would have preferred to beat Matt.
32:44
I don't know if he would say that
32:45
out loud to the press at this point
32:48
in his career,
32:49
but I'm betting if you asked him...
32:52
his feelings back in twenty one and twenty
32:54
two,
32:55
he would have hoped that he could have
32:57
beaten Matt to get his first title.
33:06
Frida says it's hard to tell when grieving
33:08
is involved,
33:08
the time needed is different for everyone.
33:10
I don't disagree with you at all.
33:12
And that's why I didn't go Sharpie either.
33:14
Like,
33:15
I don't think it's a done deal and
33:16
written in Sharpie.
33:18
I just think that looking at it,
33:20
when you look at greatness in sports,
33:23
When Michael Jordan was playing
33:24
basketball,
33:25
it meant something if you beat him.
33:28
And nobody did.
33:30
The only time people beat the Bulls is
33:33
when Jordan retired for two years and the
33:36
Rockets won.
33:36
And Akeem Olajuwon was like,
33:38
he won the title only because Michael
33:41
didn't play those years.
33:45
And that eats up at athletes.
33:48
That eats up at athletes.
33:49
If you are a champion athlete and you
33:52
are as competitive as Laura is,
33:54
you want to stick a stake in the
33:56
ground and you want to take your shot
33:59
at the best that there ever was.
34:08
Right now,
34:09
Laura has the best shot of beating Tia
34:10
with her skill set.
34:13
Laura has one weakness, one weakness.
34:18
And I think that Laura has a shot
34:20
to go head to head with her.
34:22
Whether she wins or not, I don't know.
34:25
Because when you're so obsessed over the
34:27
one thing that you need to complete your
34:29
career,
34:30
that comes with a lot of mental issues
34:35
that you have to overcome, right?
34:39
Like when Tiger wore red on Sunday or
34:41
Michael Jordan was in the playoffs,
34:43
those players knew that that person was
34:45
great.
34:47
And it was going to take an exceptional
34:48
performance to beat them.
34:51
And so Laura is going to have to
34:52
know when Tia's wearing that leader jersey
34:54
that she has the ability to beat her
34:56
still.
34:57
And that takes an extra to get there.
35:09
yeah this is it corey this is perfect
35:12
at the twenty twenty games jeff adler said
35:15
i don't care who wins the next event
35:17
so long as it isn't him and points
35:18
at matt frazier something tells me it
35:26
won't happen in twenty twenty six he
35:28
hasn't posted a video in two months
35:29
pregnant i don't disagree with you and
35:33
that's again i did not put this laura
35:35
thing in sharpie i put it in pen
35:39
Because there are other factors to this.
35:41
If Tia doesn't compete,
35:43
then it's going to be easy for Laura
35:44
to say,
35:44
I'm going to take another season of just
35:47
WFP, stay in Europe, do my thing,
35:49
collect my money,
35:51
do some Olympic weightlifting,
35:53
have some fun.
35:55
Because the CrossFit Games, the title,
35:58
I don't think matters to Laura.
36:00
It's beating Tia.
36:03
That's what matters.
36:13
Laura only beat her when Tia was like
36:15
six months postpartum.
36:16
Laura is great,
36:17
but I don't think she can take Tia
36:18
in twenty twenty six.
36:20
I'm not predicting the winner, dude.
36:23
I understand what you're saying exactly.
36:26
But as a competitor,
36:28
listen to the guys that played basketball
36:30
in Jordan's era,
36:32
like the Charles Barclays,
36:33
the Carl Malone's,
36:35
the Akeem Elijah Juan's.
36:37
the Isaiah Thomas's,
36:40
they wanted to beat Jordan.
36:42
They wanted to beat Jordan's bulls.
36:45
None of them did,
36:47
but that was their white whale.
36:49
That was what they wanted to go after.
37:00
Laura's great when the test is not about
37:01
being the fittest.
37:03
I completely disagreed.
37:07
I completely disagree.
37:09
The only thing that prevents Laura from
37:11
winning events is handstand pushups with a
37:15
deficit.
37:24
So.
37:30
So there it is.
37:37
Jonathan Ortega.
37:38
So I don't think Laura is that type
37:40
of competitor or else she would have come
37:42
after Tia this season.
37:43
She doesn't have the love.
37:45
I completely disagree.
37:47
I think she has the love for the
37:49
game.
37:49
Look at her on the floor.
37:51
Look at how pumped she gets when she
37:52
wins an event.
37:55
She has all the love of the game,
37:58
but she was grieving and she had rage
38:01
and was upset with CrossFit HQ.
38:04
That's why she didn't do twenty twenty
38:05
six.
38:06
As the further we get away from Lazar's
38:09
death,
38:10
the more that's going to wane a little
38:12
by a little by little.
38:14
And there's going to be a piece or
38:16
there's going to be a time where it's
38:18
going to be enough for her to want
38:19
to go after the white whale.
38:21
And that is Tia.
38:26
Laura is one of the fittest period.
38:30
I one hundred percent agree.
38:31
I guys, I.
38:33
Nobody goes into events and hurts
38:36
themselves like that if they don't have
38:37
love for the game.
38:39
She is at the tip of the spear.
38:40
She is one of the two greatest female
38:43
athletes in the sport.
38:45
And maybe you could put her on the
38:47
Mount Rushmore of ever.
38:52
She has stood on the podium, what,
38:54
four times at the CrossFit Games?
38:57
Winning once?
39:05
Mike DeVito,
39:06
I definitely understand what you're saying
39:07
now, and that makes sense.
39:09
But if it is her white whale,
39:10
she needs to put her issues with HQ
39:12
aside and show up.
39:13
And I don't think she has the mental
39:15
side.
39:16
A lot had rage and still showed up
39:18
and handled business.
39:20
You have to be mentally tough to overcome
39:21
adversity like that.
39:23
Some did, Laura did not.
39:24
And just like the commenter said earlier,
39:26
and I think it was Frida,
39:29
said that everybody grieves differently.
39:32
And that time can be different for every
39:34
single person.
39:36
Look at go back and look at the
39:38
twenty twenty four rogue invitational and
39:43
the interview style that Laura had with
39:46
the on the floor.
39:48
Mike, I think it was Kiki back then,
39:49
too.
39:50
Then look at this year and how she
39:52
was in her interviews with Kiki.
39:54
There is a difference in Laura from last
39:56
year to this year.
39:58
I'm not saying she's over everything,
40:00
but I'm saying that we're time does help
40:03
heal some wounds.
40:06
And her wounds just need to be healed
40:08
enough for the pros to outweigh the cons
40:12
of going to the CrossFit Games.
40:17
Exactly.
40:18
Train Olive.
40:19
She has a different air about her
40:20
recently.
40:21
I like this version of Laura.
40:29
Laura also quit on a workout in the
40:31
WFP.
40:32
I know it's just the WFP,
40:33
but Tia would never have done that.
40:41
She may not have quit.
40:42
She just may not have been able.
40:59
When Kobe passed away,
41:00
how many players showed up to the court
41:01
right after?
41:03
Apples to oranges, Jonathan.
41:04
Kobe didn't die on the court.
41:07
And Kobe was retired.
41:16
We're all making assumptions about Laura's
41:17
mindset and why she's making the decision
41:19
she is.
41:20
All the speculation doesn't make it fact.
41:22
I'm just putting a theory out there.
41:24
That's all.
41:24
Just for something to talk about.
41:27
Because love or hate her,
41:29
she is a phenomenal athlete.
41:31
And I think that people look at it
41:34
and they discredit her fitness or her
41:36
ability because she's unlike other
41:40
athletes in the space.
41:42
But that may be what makes her special.
41:51
Exactly, Sean in Oregon.
41:52
But then we wouldn't have a show.
41:53
Exactly.
41:54
Exactly.
42:02
Mike DeVito.
42:03
And I like Laura a lot.
42:04
She's a solid athlete in so many ways
42:06
that might not come across right now,
42:08
but I do.
42:09
LOL.
42:13
So it's just a theory.
42:16
It's looking at when I've like,
42:18
I've watched sports my entire life.
42:21
my entire life and I've watched greatness
42:24
and I've watched people want to over
42:27
become great themselves.
42:29
And the way to become great yourself is
42:32
to hang with those that are great already
42:35
or beat those that are great already.
42:38
You know, we have the phrases like,
42:39
the student becomes the master.
42:42
Things like that because, one,
42:43
of Star Wars, but two,
42:45
because the apprentice has learned enough
42:50
about being great that they overtake the
42:52
person who is currently great.
42:57
There are still golfers who talk about
43:00
Tiger like he's still there.
43:05
because of the runs he made,
43:07
and none of them can match what he
43:09
did on the course.
43:11
And they still talk about it.
43:14
And you know if they're talking about it,
43:15
it's in the forefront of their mind that
43:18
they want to be able to do what
43:19
he did to show that they're as great
43:21
as he was.
43:36
but you can't hang with those that are
43:37
great if you don't show up for the
43:38
event.
43:39
Jonathan, you keep banging this horse.
43:43
The horse is dead.
43:45
People grieve differently.
43:47
She didn't show up for one year.
43:49
We got to see what happens.
43:53
I mean, if you listen to Pat Vellner,
43:55
I think there's a chance he comes back.
43:58
And he was as outspoken against CrossFit
44:00
HQ as anybody.
44:06
Trade Olive,
44:07
if you look back at Tia in the
44:08
beginning to now as far as interviews and
44:11
such, I'd say she's less likable.
44:13
I think Laura is becoming more likable or
44:15
maybe personable is the word.
44:17
I think personable is the word.
44:19
I think that she has burnt some bridges
44:21
where there were people out there that
44:22
will never like Laura.
44:28
And that's just a fact.
44:30
It doesn't mean that...
44:33
She can't become more personable and maybe
44:35
convert some people over to likable.
44:37
But I think for some,
44:38
she's already burnt that bridge.
44:40
And that's why people don't think she,
44:44
I think that is why people give her
44:46
less of a chance to be great or
44:49
to be on the Mount Rushmore or to
44:50
be the person that can take down the
44:52
white whale.
44:59
Tia had a huge shift in mindset when
45:00
she started,
45:01
so there's always room for change and
45:03
growth.
45:08
Laura is very Eastern European from a
45:10
personality standpoint.
45:14
I don't disagree with that at all.
45:18
But it's food for thought, right?
45:19
It makes, to me,
45:22
as someone who does this every day now,
45:26
It's those storylines that make me want to
45:28
come watch an event.
45:32
And so I am hoping upon hope that
45:36
this theory of mine is true and that
45:40
we do get the opportunity where we get
45:42
the head-to-head Laura versus Tia.
45:45
Because I don't think there could be a
45:47
better matchup in the women's field at the
45:51
CrossFit Games than to see those two go
45:54
head-to-head.
45:55
They are very different culturally.
45:57
They are very different personality-wise,
46:00
but they're both great.
46:02
And I would love to see it happen
46:04
head-to-head one more time.
46:08
So as much as I'm just throwing this
46:10
theory out and I'm using past experiences
46:13
of watching other people who are great,
46:16
a lot of this is hope.
46:18
A lot of this is because I just
46:20
want to see it happen.
46:22
because it will be something that we would
46:24
talk about all the time on this show.
46:29
It's like the men's field has gotten to
46:31
where you can't pick a winner anymore.
46:34
Everybody is getting so good that we have
46:37
these epic battles,
46:39
even at a semifinal level,
46:41
all the way to the games, at Rogue,
46:44
at all the events.
46:47
That's what's awesome.
46:49
And that's,
46:50
we haven't had that on the women's side
46:51
because it's been dominated so much.
46:54
We need the villain for Tia.
46:59
And that's what I'm hoping for.
47:02
With that, guys,
47:02
I need to say one thing.
47:05
Last night on our show,
47:05
Carolyn said that she helped Lex with her
47:08
picks.
47:10
Lex wants to make it clear that
47:12
that Carolyn does not help her with her
47:14
picks on Heat One,
47:15
that Lex makes her own picks,
47:19
and they are hers.
47:20
And she has beaten John Young on her
47:22
own,
47:23
and she has done all the greatness on
47:26
Heat One because she's my white whale on
47:28
Heat One.
47:29
Every weekend,
47:31
that's the person I'm trying to beat is
47:32
Lex.
47:34
Alexis Detroit for you people out there.
47:38
And she is my white whale,
47:42
but she wants it cleared up that she
47:44
makes her own picks.
47:45
Carolyn does not help her.
47:47
They may discuss the event and the
47:48
athletes,
47:49
but they actually come up with different
47:51
choices on who will be in the heat
47:53
one.
47:54
So Lex wanted me to make that clear.
47:57
I've made it clear.
47:58
Lex is probably the king queen of the
48:02
heat one app.
48:04
And I'm just coming,
48:04
trying to come for the crown.
48:06
Thank goodness.
48:06
She forgot to put in athletes for event
48:09
seven and I beat her this week,
48:11
probably for the first time ever.
48:14
So.
48:20
I think Alex Kazan is going to be
48:22
trying to be the villain in Proven's
48:26
comments.
48:30
More information, please, Trent Olive.
48:35
I've seen HBO posts about Alex because
48:39
that's who she's with now.
48:42
Um... Um...
48:54
So anyway,
48:59
I didn't see any proven comments on
49:00
anything.
49:01
But again,
49:01
I don't dive into the comments very much,
49:09
especially when I'm busy,
49:11
which I have been for the last couple
49:12
weeks.
49:20
Lucy Campbell appears to be the future.
49:22
She has crazy grit.
49:24
think the only thing holding lucy campbell
49:26
back is she's an older athlete she started
49:29
this thing later than most um and so
49:32
her window is a little bit shorter than
49:36
some athletes
49:39
it's then some athletes are or is or
49:41
whatever um I love Lucy Campbell she is
49:46
one of my favorite athletes um every
49:48
conversation I've had with her has been
49:49
remarkable um and if you noticed she's the
49:52
superhero in the comic uh on the thumbnail
49:56
for this show today um and I think
50:00
she's awesome
50:02
But I think if Alex Kazan can stay
50:04
healthy,
50:05
she is going to be the future of
50:07
the sport as well.
50:17
Oh, yeah, yeah, she did do that.
50:18
I did see that.
50:20
I'm sorry.
50:22
You're very right, Train Olive.
50:23
There was a post about Tia keeping the
50:25
jersey and not giving it up,
50:26
and Alex said something like,
50:28
I'll be trying to take it.
50:37
True,
50:38
but she was an athlete from another
50:39
discipline.
50:41
I'm not disputing that, David.
50:43
I just think she's thirty.
50:46
So in the women's field,
50:48
it's very rare to go past thirty-four,
50:51
thirty-five.
50:52
I'm just saying the window's smaller for
50:53
her than it is for someone like Gazan
50:56
at twenty-four or an Emma Lawson at
50:58
twenty-one.
51:04
They just have a longer runway to pull
51:06
it off.
51:13
That's not Alex being a villain, though.
51:14
That's the type of fun trash talk we
51:16
need more of in this sport.
51:18
Yeah, and I think if you know Alex,
51:24
it was probably all said in fun,
51:26
but the Alex I used to know would
51:28
never have said that because her
51:29
confidence level wasn't where it needs to
51:32
be to be a champion,
51:34
and I think it is now.
51:36
I think I'm bummed that we didn't get
51:39
the full healthy Alex this season.
51:43
So we'll see.
51:47
I was showing bias with regards to age.
51:49
Thirty is so young compared to me.
51:51
Yeah, I mean, thirty is really young,
51:55
but for an athlete.
51:57
The athletes that go past thirty five in
52:00
pro sports, you can count on two hands,
52:03
maybe, you know, you have your LeBron's,
52:05
you have your.
52:07
Max Scherzer's you,
52:09
but they are not they are not common.
52:12
Aaron Rodgers.
52:20
To come back from that accident and do
52:21
what she did at Rogue is simply amazing.
52:23
It was.
52:24
She looked great.
52:25
I think she looked tired on Sunday,
52:27
but a lot of athletes did.
52:28
But I think the Alex that could train
52:30
fully would be less tired than she was
52:33
this week.
52:34
So I'd love to see her at full
52:36
conditioning moving forward.
52:45
Haha, I'm forty.
52:46
So to me, thirty is crazy young.
52:48
But as a CrossFitter,
52:48
even thirty is getting up there.
52:51
There are some people that have not been
52:55
hit by the age wand as quickly.
53:00
Emily Rolfe is thirty five,
53:01
and she has been competing until this year
53:04
when she suffered her first injury.
53:07
Sam Briggs famously qualified as a Masters
53:10
athlete in the individual field.
53:13
It can be done.
53:15
I'm just saying from second,
53:18
like Lucy finished second at the games.
53:21
Second.
53:22
That's impressive.
53:24
And she may be a monster in the
53:26
next couple years.
53:28
Her window is just smaller, that's all.
53:31
Emma Lawson's twenty-one.
53:33
She's got like fourteen years of working
53:37
to be the best.
53:44
five a.m squad club I'm getting younger
53:45
all the time there you go CrossFit
53:49
reversing age one workout at a time uh
53:57
Briggs isn't human I'm convinced she's a
53:59
cyborg that got left in the past after
54:02
failing to get John Connor yeah I think
54:05
there's a lot of speculation um
54:08
But hey, she's a firefighter here in Ohio.
54:11
And if my house is on fire,
54:12
I want her saving my ass.
54:14
I'll tell you that.
54:18
No questions whether she's fit enough to
54:20
get my house taken care of and my
54:23
family out safe and sound.
54:29
She's one of the coolest humans ever.
54:32
I'm going to finish on this.
54:34
I've said this on this show a couple
54:35
times.
54:35
When I was doing the open at CrossFit
54:38
Polaris, I was standing over my deadlift.
54:43
Sam had come in to work out with
54:44
Christy,
54:46
and she started yelling at me to pick
54:48
up the bar that it was not going
54:49
to move itself.
54:50
And then she got right beside me yelling
54:52
at me the whole time.
54:54
And it was a burpee deadlift workout in
54:55
the open a couple years ago.
54:58
Nothing worse than having Sam Briggs yell
55:00
at you to finish out that open workout.
55:03
I did way better than I ever planned
55:05
on doing,
55:07
but it's also one of the coolest moments
55:08
I've ever had in my life.
55:13
And I picked up the bar.
55:15
I picked up the bar.
55:17
So with that, on that story,
55:20
we're going to get out of here.
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