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25W: LIVE from Dallas for All-Star Weekend + World Series Champion Ryan Dempster + Unrealistic Season Predictions with Eddie & Softball Ricky · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty fives stuck in parts and
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  Speaker 1: they are wearing a whist so, yeah, it's too bad,
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  Speaker 1: but what did you expect. It's a podcast called twenty
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  Speaker 1: five whistles.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we are in Dallas, Arlington to be specific,
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  Speaker 2: where it's the week of the Major League Baseball All
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  Speaker 2: Star Game, and it is today.
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  Speaker 3: It starts, I guess last night. It started with the.
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  Speaker 2: HBCU game, the Futures Game, and then the Celebrity All
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  Speaker 2: Star Game softball, which, by the way, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the celebrity game, they're scraping for celebrities.
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  Speaker 3: Let's be honest. Let's be honest. They watched too much
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  Speaker 3: EXAs yes, big fans too much.
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  Speaker 4: St.
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  Speaker 3: Louis Cardinals version home.
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  Speaker 2: In just a few minutes, we're gonna talk to Ryan Dempster,
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  Speaker 2: who was a big.
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  Speaker 3: Part of you know, me being a Cups fan.
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  Speaker 2: He was super consistent with the Cups picture for nine years.
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Dempster's co host of MLB Network's Intentional Talk, so
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  Speaker 2: be sure to check that out.
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  Speaker 3: And also as far as what he's.
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  Speaker 2: Doing here, he's calling the celebrity game that I'm playing,
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  Speaker 2: which is gonna be on a whole bunch of things,
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  Speaker 2: so by the time you hear this, you won't be
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  Speaker 2: able to watch it. So Ryan Dempster coming up just
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  Speaker 2: a little bit around the room quickly, and there's one, two, three, four,
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  Speaker 2: five of us here favorite baseball player growing up.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I love Ricky Henderson. You got to pick one.
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  Speaker 2: But because I felt like it was leading, like I
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  Speaker 2: love Ricky Henderson.
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  Speaker 4: But I even my buddy hit had He told me
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  Speaker 4: that he sent Nolan Ryan a letter. He like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't even know how he did it back then. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: he was in the back of Beckett like send this
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  Speaker 4: or whatever and Nolan Ryan will get it. And he
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  Speaker 4: sent him a letter how big of a fan he was,
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  Speaker 4: And Nolan Ryan sent back a autograph picture, and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, that's I'm gonna do that with Ricky Henderson.
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  Speaker 4: And so I did it, send a letter off, got enough.
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  Speaker 3: Probably never got to him.
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  Speaker 5: There.
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  Speaker 3: I hear Ricky is a really great guy.
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  Speaker 2: Really yeah, Like from anybody that I know that had
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  Speaker 2: played with him or been around him, he was apparently
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  Speaker 2: like the cards in the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 3: Like most fun guy around. So I'm sorry didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Happen for you, Budy that's all right, man, I'm over
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  Speaker 4: it now.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to read read who is your favorite baseball
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  Speaker 2: player growing up?
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  Speaker 6: I'd have to say David Ortiz nice m because he
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  Speaker 6: was a lefty and I was just like, I didn't
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  Speaker 6: I want to be able to hit the ball.
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  Speaker 5: I him, man, and.
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  Speaker 3: You were also from the Dominican and.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all the above.
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  Speaker 3: Goal wasn't a big poppy one day. It was like,
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  Speaker 3: but maybe not in baseball, you know.
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  Speaker 4: What I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin no mare Garcia Park. Growing up, he's a cup
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  Speaker 2: for a while. When he came over with the Cubs,
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  Speaker 2: I pumped. Yea simpster played with no more at the
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  Speaker 2: same time.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was very upset when he left the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 3: I loved him as a kid.
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  Speaker 7: I would be up there playing little league and just
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  Speaker 7: doing like, do you know the whole batting glove or
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  Speaker 7: routine that he had. Dude, I would do that every time,
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  Speaker 7: like I knew what I was doing up there in
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  Speaker 7: thirty grade.
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  Speaker 5: It was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: So off I Ricky favorite baseball player ever.
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  Speaker 8: Scott Fletcher Ranger, Texas Rangers, Chicago Cub White Sox played
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  Speaker 8: for the Brewers for a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Red Sox.
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  Speaker 8: But he is to this day still my favorite athlete
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  Speaker 8: all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I think, do you know him?
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  Speaker 4: I do now? I didn't.
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  Speaker 8: I mean not so much when I was, you know,
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  Speaker 8: ten years old, but uh, great guy?
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  Speaker 2: Or was he your favorite when you were ten? Or
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  Speaker 2: is he now looking back because you know now he's
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  Speaker 2: your favorite?
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  Speaker 4: He was? He was always my favorite.
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  Speaker 3: It's my favorite.
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  Speaker 8: Ryan Dempster now, Scott Fletcher has been my favorite athlete
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  Speaker 8: for as long as I ever had one.
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  Speaker 2: Mine's Mark Grace first basement for the Cubs, number seventeen
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  Speaker 2: by far, my favorite player, the only really athlete that
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  Speaker 2: hasn't responded or given me any sort of time a
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  Speaker 2: day for an interview.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: We've tried every way possible.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I've tried.
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  Speaker 3: We can get nothing.
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  Speaker 7: It's like he doesn't even exist anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But he's also like the the you know, color commentator
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  Speaker 2: for the Arizona Diamondback.
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  Speaker 3: So he's in media.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that is weird because it's not like he went
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  Speaker 4: in heightening.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, h my. So that's my official answer
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  Speaker 3: to that.
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  Speaker 2: Before I pivoted this story, before Mark Grace and probably
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  Speaker 2: number two all time would have been Andre Dawson. Who
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  Speaker 2: played right field for the Cubs the Big Hawk, and
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  Speaker 2: so the jersey that I have here, I'm not wearing it.
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  Speaker 3: I have two Cub jerseys with me, which is so
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  Speaker 3: lame for an adult.
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  Speaker 4: You brought two Cubs jerseys. I bought this.
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  Speaker 3: I bought this one on the road.
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  Speaker 7: I wanted every second since.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have an autograph Andre Dawson Cubs jersey that
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna wear, like because I have to go
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  Speaker 2: in a what time is it in? Like an hour
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  Speaker 2: and a half, two hours and do the credentials and
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  Speaker 2: go meet with the other celebrities who were playing, and
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  Speaker 2: then we do batting practice that kind of stuff. And
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna wear that jersey that auto Andre Dawson
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  Speaker 2: during or I can just wear like a shoe.
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  Speaker 3: Is that a lame for me to do?
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  Speaker 8: Andre Dawson is across the street signing autographs as we speak.
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  Speaker 4: What what are we doing? Hey? Wrap it up now?
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  Speaker 8: I downloaded the chart game app No, there's no charge.
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  Speaker 4: They're all over there signing autographs for free.
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  Speaker 8: I believe, I believe so. But yeah, Andre Dawson is
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  Speaker 8: across the street.
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  Speaker 3: Dang, that would be cool. I wish you could get
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  Speaker 3: to talk to Andre Dawes, who knew I did.
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  Speaker 4: I knew was good.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't had he hasn't been on yet, and I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: we're also trying to get other people too. It's not
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  Speaker 2: they're not compared. We tried to get like four or
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  Speaker 2: five people and he's like, no, Ryan, Yeah, no, crap.
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  Speaker 3: It was awesome. We'll do that now.
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  Speaker 2: Then let's talk to Ryan Dempster again. Check out Ryan's show.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Dempster is the co host of MLB Network's Intentional Talk,
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  Speaker 2: Get It Walk. Nobody didn't get it?
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  Speaker 4: Second, did you get it? I got it?
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  Speaker 2: If we got we're all covered and none in.
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  Speaker 3: It's all toward read. But Read's like I don't have
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  Speaker 3: a favorite. Sometimes. I was happy that he had a
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  Speaker 3: favorite Read.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: I used to play all the baseball games and he
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  Speaker 6: was my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but do your top do your mount Rushmore
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  Speaker 2: a favorite baseball players?
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  Speaker 6: Oh cheez, okay, it would have to be David Ortiz
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  Speaker 6: number one. Uh, to be honest, Matt Holliday at number two.
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  Speaker 3: Because we went to did you get a ball signed behind?
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  Speaker 6: Then I did get a No, No, I didn't, Sad the.
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  Speaker 2: Second favorite player of all time and that's who you
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  Speaker 2: didn't ask for autograph when you ask everybody else for
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  Speaker 2: autograph anywhere we go.
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  Speaker 6: I definitely wanted to. I had it in my pocket
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  Speaker 6: and I walked out with my head down, and I
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  Speaker 6: was like, I just couldn't do it, really do it.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, so Matt Holliday because I saw him play
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  Speaker 6: when he was with the Rockies.
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  Speaker 5: That was like my first MLB game.
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  Speaker 6: I went to, Let's see who else?
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  Speaker 2: Mm Babe Ruth?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Gary, to be honest, that's all I got.
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  Speaker 3: You got too, I like that. Can you think of
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  Speaker 3: another player that you just kind of liked?
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  Speaker 5: I mean Derek Jeter, but every.
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  Speaker 3: Gay that's three? Okay, that's Ali Rushman. Okay. Who's playing now?
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  Speaker 3: Who's younger than you?
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  Speaker 2: Is your fourth favorite players younger than you.
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  Speaker 4: Are?
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  Speaker 2: We gonna go over to Ryan Dempster now, who played
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  Speaker 2: for the Marlins, the Reds, the Cubs, the Rangers, the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox. He's a two time All Star. He's a
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  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen World Series champion with the Red Sox. He's
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  Speaker 2: in the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame over two thousand strikeouts.
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  Speaker 2: Here he is Ryan Dempster. We're here with Ryan Dempster.
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  Speaker 4: This is cool.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't wear a Cub jersey on purpose because
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  Speaker 2: I know you were coming. Because we were like, I wonder.
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  Speaker 3: Vinyl show up.
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  Speaker 4: He's worn this for three days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, non souf if I ran into it any city.
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  Speaker 2: We just came from Arizona, so I was like, maybe
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  Speaker 2: we running Ryan Dempster. I'll wear my jersey. I'm massive
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  Speaker 2: Cubs fan. So let's just say that ahead of time.
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  Speaker 2: This could be a very Cubs oriented interview asking a
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  Speaker 2: lot of questions, but softball Ricky is here. Do you
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  Speaker 2: want to ask your one question that you tried to
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  Speaker 2: whisper to him that was kind of.
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  Speaker 9: Creepy because I mean, maybe you wouldn't want to answer. Okay,
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  Speaker 9: go ahead with the microphone, is okay? I mean, I
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  Speaker 9: mean I longtime Texas Ranger fan. I've had season tickets,
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  Speaker 9: but I love baseball history. I have an affinity for
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  Speaker 9: all of the sort of blue bud traditional teams, Yankees, Cubs,
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  Speaker 9: you know, Red Sox.
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  Speaker 4: Is it would you say that you.
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  Speaker 8: Were more or were prone to be more excited playing
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  Speaker 8: for the Cubs for to say, the Rangers, just because
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you're playing for the Cubs for a team.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like I.
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  Speaker 5: Think that's like a pretty like fair assessment, like like
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  Speaker 5: put it this way. So I actually got drafted by
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  Speaker 5: Texas by the Rangers in ninety five, came to the
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  Speaker 5: ballpark at Arlington, like a nineteen ninety six pre spring training,
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  Speaker 5: you know, rookie development thing, and like I had the
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  Speaker 5: license plate cover and the bad I was gonna be
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  Speaker 5: Texas Ranger for like I'm pretty sure had a necklace
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  Speaker 5: that said Rangers on it, you know, like everything was
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  Speaker 5: going to be Rangers. And I got traded and then
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  Speaker 5: I was with the Marlins and everything, and I made
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  Speaker 5: my first start at Wrigley and I walked into Wrigley Field.
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  Speaker 5: It was June first, nineteen ninety eight. And after the game,
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  Speaker 5: I called my and I got rocked. I didn't make
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  Speaker 5: it out of the second inning. And I called my
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  Speaker 5: parents and I called my dad and I said, I
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  Speaker 5: am going to play for the Chicago Cubs. Like this,
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  Speaker 5: this is different. This is different than other places.
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  Speaker 2: You know, would that be like Chicago, Saint Louis, Boston,
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  Speaker 2: those we think of, like those foundational baseball cities. Would
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  Speaker 2: it feel like that in all of those places or
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  Speaker 2: only the teams were good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was maybe just the energy of
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  Speaker 5: Wrigley that really got me, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 5: like and like the fans like you walk in. You know.
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  Speaker 5: I took a cab to the ballpark and then I
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  Speaker 5: kind of got the cab driver to let me out
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  Speaker 5: a couple of blocks before so you could kind of
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  Speaker 5: walk and just check it out. I'd heard, you know,
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  Speaker 5: about Wrigley and and just like the vibe around it,
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  Speaker 5: like there's no other ballpark like that in the country
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  Speaker 5: where you got all four streets or something's happening in
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  Speaker 5: every corner. Something like even at Fenway you got yaku
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  Speaker 5: Wa or whatever it's called now, but they you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's not like that. It's it's just different there,
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  Speaker 5: and and you know.
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  Speaker 4: People try to duplicate it, but you can't. Like no,
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  Speaker 4: it's like it's incredible.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I played it, you know, I played at
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  Speaker 5: Fenway too and played for the Red Sox and it
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  Speaker 5: was amazing in its own way, But it wasn't Wrigly.
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  Speaker 5: It was There's just something about it you can't I
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  Speaker 5: guess time maybe is why it's it feels that way.
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  Speaker 5: I think the.
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  Speaker 2: Fans there right yeah, and all I went to watch
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  Speaker 2: the Cubs when they when they beat the Indians, massive
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  Speaker 2: cups tame a whole life. So I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: gotta go up. The Cubs are in the World Series
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  Speaker 2: first times.
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  Speaker 3: It's forty five. I had one to since eight. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Like there were people that were generation before me that
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  Speaker 3: never got to see the Cubs even in a World Series.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm like, I gotta go. So I had to
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  Speaker 3: watch and play the Indians a game too. They lost.
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  Speaker 2: However, I've never seen Wrigley as packed to the gills
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  Speaker 2: where you couldn't moved, or Wrigglelyville and everybody's so happy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I've never been somewhere so crowded where everyone was just
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  Speaker 2: impure like enjoyment because of where they were that day
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  Speaker 2: and how rare it was. The darkest years with the Cubs.
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  Speaker 5: Was you? Yeah? Were you playing day game with a
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  Speaker 5: lot of days, a lot of day games? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Man, a bad season in a day game that would be.
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  Speaker 5: Terrible, especially if for someone who liked to go out
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  Speaker 5: and have a good time at night, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: day games were tough to get up.
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  Speaker 3: You know what time you have to get there for
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  Speaker 3: day games.
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  Speaker 5: I would say I was. I'm kind of a limited
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  Speaker 5: sleep guy anyways, and I'm an early riser, and I'm
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  Speaker 5: a first guy at the ballpark type thing. So if
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  Speaker 5: you know we're playing a one to twenty game, I
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  Speaker 5: was usually rolling into Reglarly about eight thirty, you know,
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  Speaker 5: really Yeah, So I'd walk in and Kent Murcury would
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: already have the crossword down. He'd be sipping his coffee
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  Speaker 5: and rode his bike already. He's like the first guy
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  Speaker 5: the ballpark every day.
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  Speaker 3: If you get there first, do you get control of
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  Speaker 3: the music in the clubhouse?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, or the starting pitcher that day, which is
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  Speaker 5: which is funny because the starting picture rarely hangs out
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  Speaker 5: in the clubhouse, yet they have control of the music.
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  Speaker 5: You know, like all the position players are like, is
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  Speaker 5: he gone? He's gone? Right, he got put on something else.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned the Marlins that that was quite a staff
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  Speaker 2: when you're with the Marlins just generally speaking, because they were.
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  Speaker 5: The whole team. Yeah, I look at like the I said,
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  Speaker 5: there should be a documentary. I mean, you get called
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  Speaker 5: the ninety eight Marlins, maybe just ninety eight, ninety nine Marlins.
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  Speaker 5: If you look at that team, I don't think that
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  Speaker 5: there's ever been a team, not since, but like I
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  Speaker 5: don't even know if you could find one before where
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  Speaker 5: you had that many rookies who went on to have
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  Speaker 5: super successful careers in the big leagues, like careers, not
• 11:53
  Speaker 5: jobs in the big leagues. The didn't play for four
• 11:54
  Speaker 5: years of fibers. I'm talking. Guys are full pensioned. You know,
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  Speaker 5: all stars, you know, were serious champions. When you go
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  Speaker 5: down the list of Mike Lowell at third base, Alex
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  Speaker 5: Gonzalis at short stop, Louis Castillo at second base, Kevin
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  Speaker 5: Malaran Derectly at first or Kevin and left field, Mark
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  Speaker 5: Cottze you know who's now managing in the big leagues,
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  Speaker 5: and Preston Wilson and Mike Redmand behind the plate, myself,
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  Speaker 5: Brad Penny A. J Burnett, you know, Josh Beckett after
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  Speaker 5: you know, my last year there, like you it's crazy
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  Speaker 5: like and it was all and we were all the
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  Speaker 5: same time. Like when we had rookie dress up, there
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  Speaker 5: was more guys dressed up than not dressed up. Like
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: we wore diapers and bonnets and stuff to Montreal through
• 12:32
  Speaker 5: customs and the customers was like, what is this? You know,
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  Speaker 5: it's like those are the rookies. The one guy goes
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  Speaker 5: all rookies, you know, like, yeah, man, we had a
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  Speaker 5: lot of us, but it all it all worked out.
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  Speaker 5: I think we all learned how to lose together and
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  Speaker 5: then we figured out how to win together.
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  Speaker 3: I got like Beckett, I'm just for memory. Was he
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  Speaker 3: a Texas kid? Yeah, like came heart throwing Texas kid.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: You know, had was known as a kid with gas
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  Speaker 2: when he came up. Yeah, when he comes up, I
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  Speaker 2: would be cocky as crap. Yeah, if I were put up.
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  Speaker 2: He was the cockiest guy that ever came up to
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  Speaker 2: the big leagues.
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  Speaker 4: Early.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well he came out in the he got rode
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  Speaker 5: hard by Alex Fernandez in ninety eight. He gets he's
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  Speaker 5: getting drafted, and he comes out and says that he's
• 13:09
  Speaker 5: going to be the Marlins representative for the All Star
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  Speaker 5: Game the next year after being drafted.
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  Speaker 3: Not as a joke, No, he was just full of confidence.
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  Speaker 3: And what's the fine line there?
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  Speaker 2: Because obviously you know wide receiver, you drop the ball,
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  Speaker 2: you got a defensive back, you let pitcher. You can't
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  Speaker 2: let your next outing effect. You know what happened here?
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  Speaker 2: What's the fine line in confident and cocky with a pitcher.
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: That was good. That was with Joshua was a really
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: fine line. And I like josh a lot. But he
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: got he got. He came into the locker room in
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: Houston and Alex Fernandez let him have it, you know,
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: and like, you know, hey, guys, grab your seat on
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: the bus. We can't afford a plane because we gave
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: our al Star next year all this money, you know. Like, yeah,
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: it was honestly, it was a little over the line.
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: I felt like, you know, like, but like I did
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: admire Josh's confidence, Like I I was a guy who
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: did not feel like I deserve to be in the
• 13:59
  Speaker 5: big I didn't deserve to be in the big leagues
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: when I first got there, Like I was a byproduct
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: of the Marlins trading everybody away and like, oh, we're
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: going to trade all these guys and bring up a
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: bunch of guys from Double A, you know, and learn
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: at the big league level. So I wasn't ready, whereas
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: he believed at high school level that he could strike
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: out Barry Bonce.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Let's go at what age did you start to be
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: someone that people started to put eyes on as either
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: because you played baseball Canada, right, Yeah, at what age
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: did scouts start to look at you and take you seriously?
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: I would say sixteen, fifteen sixteen, like you know, when
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: you're I'm from a super small town up there, and
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: I played baseball in West Vancouver at this little park
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: called Ambleside Park. And I remember the first scout, a
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: guy named bird Dog for the Texas Rangers who drafted me,
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: a guy named Don Sherry. And Don was like, you know,
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: this old kind of guy. You looked like you'd see
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: in like an extra and cheers sitting at the bar.
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: You know, you just sitting there all right, kid? You
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: got a good arm. You know you got a good arm.
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: You keep throwing that ball. And then next thing you know,
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: Jim Chapman was another scout for the Dodgers. He showed up,
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: and then these scouts started to show up. I got
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: a great picture. I'm like seventeen years old, my junior year,
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: and I'm throwing at Ambleside and my uncle, just as
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: a joke, went in with a hair dryer. There was
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: like thirteen scouts and they're all holding guns and he's
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: got a hair dryer, and they have no idea. It's
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: so great. Yeah, I have framed and everything. It's so awesome.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: So yeah, and that's kind of when it just started
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: to steamroll. And then it was like playing for Team
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: Cannon in the World Junior Championships and then you're playing
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: against you know, US and Cuba and these really good
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: teams like and then you start to compete, and then
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: next thing you know, it was all right, here we go,
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: it's happening.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: How many pitches did you think you have versus how
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: many pitches did they tell you you had they could
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: translate to the next level.
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: They told me I had one my fastball, but I
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: had I had a good break and by no change
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: up whatsoever. I didn't have a change up in the
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: big leagues until really a true, good, effective change up
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: until post Tommy John and Fergy Jenkins taught me on
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: the backfield in two thousand and four, I think two
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: thousand and five spring training.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: And how long until you actually can feel comfortable throwing
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: that in a game?
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: Pretty quick? It was a weird thing, Like I'm not kidding.
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: I was walking to the back field of spring training
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: of two thousand and five, I was getting ready to
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: throw a bullpen. I'd come back in two thousand and four,
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: and and Fergy was like, hey, I just stopped him,
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: and I knew he had a pretty decent changeable, although
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: he didn't throw it a lot when he was pitching.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: He was mostly basketball breaking ball because he had such
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: a good command. And I said, how did you throw
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: your change up? I mean, I could write a book
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: on change up grips. I tried the Trevor Hoffman fosch,
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: I tried the circle change. I tried turning stuff over.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: I tried everything, and he said, oh, just grab it
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: like this, and it was kind of like a split
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: change where you would put it's like a split finger fastball,
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: but your finger would be up like a circle change.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: And then my other three fingers came up on the
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: side of the ball, so it was like this vulcan grip.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: And I get up to the backfield and Larry Rothschild's
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: a pitching coach, and I go, uh, I got a pitch.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna try and throw. And he was
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: kind of a little hesitating because I was coming off
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Tommy John you know, the year before. And he was like,
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: all right, and I throw it and it just goes
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: and he's just like whoa, yes, one hundred percent. I
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: was like, uh, I would throw that again, straight down
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh, something here, and then you know,
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: because of the grip, it was at times that you know,
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: I could sail off on me, but they just became
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: a super effective pitch and I and he just said,
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: don't lose your arm at arm speed on that throw
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: at that arm speed, and it became honestly probably extended
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: my career eight years. Who knows, like it was that effective?
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Would you try to throw it in simulated games? Do
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: they simulate games?
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, and just throwing it like insides
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: throwing it and then and then what I did was
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: kind of like spring training, right. Although we like to
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: like think that it's so important if our team wins
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: or loses when we go to those games, like you know,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: it's unfortunately that's how it is now. Guys paid seventy
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: five bucks to go to a spring training game, and
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: it's like, my team's got to win, you know, Plus
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: we can bet on it. So it's like, you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: I can't, but you know people can of course. But
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: and so back back then you could kind of get
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: away with having some freedom to hone your craft without
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: any anybody, Karen. So I was like, I'm just gonna
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: throw a start and just throw splits like the whole game,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: you know. So it was like, okay, So I probably
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I threw two or three innings in a spring training game,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: and I say I threw fifty pitches. I betch you
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: I had threw forty split fingerpass paying.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: And even if you're getting crushed.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: I wasn't. And then I wasn't getting crushed. It was like, oh,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: this is a really really good pitch, you know, and
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: it helped me neutralize lefties especially.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I'll watch a lot of Charlie Huff knuckleball videos, yeah,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: because he's mean, he's six or seventies now and he's
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: still showing these kids how to throw knuckleballs.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Knuckleball kind of a lost art, you know.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, for me, probably Wakefield was the last guy
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: that I saw do it effectively.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Was he the last guy to do it effectively?
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah? He was the last. I mean there was a
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: couple of guys that came through, like you know, ra.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: A Dickey and right Dicky.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but like but like even I mean, wake was
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: pitching up till our finished pitching like pretty much you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: so like Wake was the the elite after Charlie Huff.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: And I'll show I'll watch Huff just show these kids
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: how to throw a knuckleball three inches right, And it's
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like you throw at three inches and then slowly back
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: away from it. So these kids are going to this
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: camp and they're learning how to throw knuckleballs. If you
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: would have learned to have thrown a knuckleball, could you
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: have tried to throw it in the game?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Did you ever try? Nothing balls at all?
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: No shot? I don't know what it was. I couldn't
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: just like it's spun, just came out of my hands
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: and tumbled, you know. I don't know if it was
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: my arm action. You know. I was a big slider guy,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: so it was like always you know, with my wrists,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: so it's hard for me to lock my wrist and
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: not turn it. The minute you go like that, it's
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: going to just start going to hold your wrist still
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: is like the most important thing. And I just I
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: didn't have that in me and never never really tried.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: After that. I'd goop around playing catch, but yeah, it
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: was a thing that if I could have I would
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: have no doubt, Like effective if you can throw for
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: strikes with throwing.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna ask about and not the controversial part
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: of this, but I was watching a video with Trevor
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Bauer talking about practicing and throwing constantly and then throwing
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: less during a game, and he's like, if you throw
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: all the time, you'll be stronger.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Therefore you are won't be sore.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: But then also like the Strasburg effect where it's like
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: with Strasburg, the one that started limiting how many pitches
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: a pitcher could throw. Over where do you fall on
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: how much a pitcher should actually throw? Because I'm listening
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: to two different guys who have been successful tell me
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: two different things.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: I tend to lead towards what You'rever's saying. I think
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: if you think about it, like when we were kids,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: and when we were growing up and we were playing baseball,
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: very few kids got a sore arm. There might have
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: been one pitcher on the team like, oh he heard
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: his arm. We played catch all the time. We didn't
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: need an organized practice, we didn't need an organized game,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: we didn't need travel ball, none of that stuff. We
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: just went and played catch with a bunch of kids
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: in the park and we just threw and threw and threw,
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: and we played five hundred up and you played Cherry,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know if you were played Cherry
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: where guy has a bat and then you go out
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: the outfield the guy you catch the ball in the air,
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: then you throw it and you try to hit the bat,
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: you know, and it hits the bat and goes over
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: the bat and lands on the ground. Now you switch positions,
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: and I'd play this for well, we're throwing it two
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: hundred feet, you know, like long toss. I look at
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: look at all of like the premiere relievers of fifty
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: last fifty years, all of those guys, all of those closers,
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: all of those set up guys, all those guys who
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: had long careers, longevity careers, they all long tossed every
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: single day. You watch them Like Jose may Man, that dude.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: I watched that dude long toss like nobody else ever
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: in the big leagues. Dude three hundred feet every day
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: they needed him, he was ready. He never was on
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: the deal never, you know, And I think that we
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: we are limiting. We're taking cars, fancy shiny Lamborghinis and
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: Ferraris and everything, and instead of taking him out for
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: a ride on the freeway. We're like, just in the
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: driveway real quick, and then we take it on the freeway. Man,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: it broke. That's weird because we asked it to go
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty real fast and it hasn't done
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty. Like minor leagues let him pitch.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: They pitch four innings and they're like, good job, good job.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: And then they get to the big leagues and we
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: have to take them out with no hitters because they're
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: not extended. Like, don't tell me it doesn't work. It's
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: a lie. It's a fabricated lie. It works. Steve Carlton
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: through two hundred and fifty innings for twenty years. Nolan
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Ryan threw for twenty seven years in the big leagues,
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: you know, like and hard and hard. Yeah, he's throwing
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: one hundred at forty five years old. Like, come on,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: it works. We have sat there and thinks that we
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: can predict at injuries and we can't. Some guys, you know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: they're the reason that they're getting drafted tonight, you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: and because they're the best young talent in the world.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: So like you have Clydesdale's, you have these show ponies,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: you know, and don't just walk them around the yard.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Let them run, let them go. Man. I feel like
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: if I could ever have control, it never would happen
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: because today and not in today's game, they're not gonna
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: let an ex player run the minor league system. But
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: give me the pitchers. I'll develop. I'll build you horses
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: number ones and number two's and the other guys. Sorry,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: if you can't make it, you can't make it. Guess what.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: It's hard.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: It's the big leagues. There's not another league on the
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: moon that we can go to play at, not yet anyways.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: Elon's working on that. But like you know, it's it's
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: the truth. So yeah, throw more, you don't get hurt.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: It's the truth.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Before I get to the Cups questions and Nolan Ryan
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: question since you brought them up, they would talk about
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: gunning Nolan Ryan back in the day, still one hundred
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and one oh one. But if it was he was
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: gun today, it'd be like one oh seven one oh eight.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Just at what the guns can do now versus where
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: they shot from. You think Nolan Ryan could throw a
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: hundred seven hundred.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Eight Yeah, I think, you know, I think outside of
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Steve del Kowski's the hardest thrower ever. You know, I
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: don't know if you know about Steve Delkowski. There's a
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: left handed pitcher.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: About your size, Well, I mean I'm pretty big.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, little, I mean little?
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Well, just how are you? I'm six two? How tall
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: are you? Six? Okay?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: But I feel like I feel like you think he's
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: like five eight?
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: He thought? No, no, no, I thought you. I say
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: he was under six feet. I thought you were maybe
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: like five to eleven.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he is.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, you're right. It wasn't a knock on your hand.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: It was like, you know, but he's ripping like me though,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah he's ripped.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, com clearly Jackie Man. But he would he would
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: throw games in them. If you look up his minor
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: league stats, it's pretty amazing. But he was. He was
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: a guy that was throwing one hundred and seven hundred
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: eight miles an hour and the and when you talk
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: to people who watched him pitch, they're like, and he
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: was left handed with the orioles like he would throw
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: games nine innings, lose six to four, you know, walk ten,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: strikeout seventeen, Like these couldn't hit it. But Nolan Ryan
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: was the same way it was. You know, guys said
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: it was his fastball just disappeared, like you know, I
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: got to see him pitch live when he was later
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: in his career, but I never got to see it,
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: you know, firsthand and stuff like that. But it was different.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: It was just it was by you. Like you don't
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: have the most no hitters, the most one hitters, the
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: most two hitters, the most three hitters, strikeout a thousand
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: more batters than second place. Like I saw a stat
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: the other day like somebody could strike out, you know,
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: two hundred batters a year for twenty years and still
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: be seventeen hundred strike I was short of Noel Ryant, like,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: you don't do that unless you throw harder than everybody else.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: And I think he I think he sat at one
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: hundred and he probably ticked it up to one oh
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: five one oh six if he needed it, and maybe harder.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Who knows, there's rumors he threw one oh eight, you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: like I wouldn't doubt it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're a cub?
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Nine years yeah, I mean it's long, yeah, and
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: post right, so like post playing, I saw THEO brought
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: me over as a special assistant for the front office,
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: So really have been with the organization for over twenty years.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: So yeah, for sure.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: When you go directly played first when you were there, right, Yeah,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: but you you work with him in Florida, am we
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: played twelve years together.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: So was he there but a year before or do
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you guys go at the.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Same time, same time?
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you didn't. Did you have.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Anybody there that you already knew when you went to
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Chicago that kind of when you go to an organization
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: like that, or do you even need someone to kind
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: of tell you about the culture, what the fans are, Like.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: No, I knew, and like at that point in my career,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: you know, I was I'd been in the big leagues
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: for five years, six years now, so it was like, oh,
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: and I knew like I played with Kent Merker in
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Cincinnati the year before or two years before that.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: You played them a lot, So you were in Chicago
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: Too, Yeah, and playing the Cubs and then I, you know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: I knew carry a little bit just across the field,
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: and it was Paul Bocco and I played together in Florida,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: So there was like these little tie ins and I'd
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: went to Japan with Mike Gremliner and I knew a
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: few guys and so it was easy. And then just
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: an easy transition played against Greg Greg could come back.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: And oh four my first year over there, to see
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Dusty Bakers still be successful, I mean, to win with
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: another World Series. What was Dusty Baker like as a
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: manager then, and then you're still so a part of
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball?
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Is he the same Dusty Baker now as he was
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: in Yeah?
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: That's I think That's what I loved about him so
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: much was he really did care about you the person.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: You know, Like he'd call you up to the office
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: dust he wants to see and you go in there
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: and he would just be like, how's everything at home?
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Everything good? How's your mom and dad doing? You know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: like to me personally, Like I know some guys that
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter to them, but for me, that mattered a lot.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm a big family guy. You know, I'm tight.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: I'm tight with all my guys I went to high
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: school with. Like that kind of relationship stuff was really important.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: So he was really great about that, just like always
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: like that. And then you know, just just Carrid and
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: wanted to win and wanted to do what it meant.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: It meant a lot to him, and yeah, just a
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: great man. I was really happy for him because it
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: was like the one thing that was hanging over him
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: for the Hall of Fame was, oh, you know, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: didn't won the World Series. I didn't won the World
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Series and been closed so many times, and so for
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: him to finally get it, you know, and to do
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: it at his age, to show you that experience does matter,
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: a little bit of that does matter was really important.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: So yeah, really really awesome dude.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Guys like Carrie Wood and Mark Pryor who came up
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and have high expectations but real big success early on.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: What do you think happened to those guys?
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: I think that well, you know both right, there's there's
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: there's the injury factor and I can't even imagine, you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: Like I'm close with Carrie and for him to strike
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: out twenty and your six start in the big leagues,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: you know, it's like where do you go from there?
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: The expectations from a fan base, like every single time
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: he was taking them ount it was like, you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: people in the bleachers with handfuls of K cards because
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: he's going to strike out twenty again, and it's like, oh, yeah,
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: good game, man, you only had thirteen today. You know.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: It was like striking out thirteen's hard, you know. So
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I think he had probably bigger expectations than Mark did.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: And and Mark, I mean, everything was going great and
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: then he ran over Marcus Giles at second in between
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: first and second base and landed on his shoulder, and
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: then I don't think he was just ever the same
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: after that. I think he would say the same thing,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: you know, it was hard to kind of come back
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: from that, started to deal for the first time in
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: his life really with any kind of arm issues or
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: any kind of injuries, and then just not able to
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: fully come back from it, and then had a surgery
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: and then just wasn't able to come back from it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: But like, yeah, like you're talking generational talent, like Paul
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Skeene's type talent coming in different right, Like like Mark
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Durosa tells a great story about carry Wood pitching. He's
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: with Atlanta in nineteen ninety Sorry, in two thousand and three,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: in Game five in Atlanta of the Division Series before
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: they went to the NLCS, Chipper Jones goes and hits
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: in the first inning off carry Wood and de Ro's like,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm super excited. We're in game five, like
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: I might get a pinch hit but get bad or something.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Chipper punches out against Kerry and then comes in the dugout.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: He's putting his helmet in his bad away. He looks
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: at Dero goes, hey, dude, we're going home today. Like
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: that's how electric his shit goes, you know, pretty awesome.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Were there guys that you felt like.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I love pitching against this guy because our mixture is
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that my mixture usually does better.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I know other guys will be like, man, this guy's
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: gonna crush.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Me like hit or wise. Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Like for like it's crazy, Like it's funny how that
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: matches up. Like take take a guy like Joe Mauer.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: At one point, Joe was oh for seven with six strikeouts.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: How's that even possible? Right, Like like.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: One of the best hitters, yeah, who never struck out.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: I struck him out three times in a game. He
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: did that like five times in his career, Like you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: but then like you know, Fred McGriff just like dragged
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: me around the room like whatever he wanted. To do
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: with me. You know, it was like just double in
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: the gap, double the gap, home run laser, you know.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Perfect to be, like even arm placement, like where you're
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: throwing the ball from where.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: I asked him and he said that that for whatever reason,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: he's like, you know, like all the guys in the
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: team would be like, dudes, don't let him get to
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: his slider. His slider's nasty. And he's like, I just
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: your slider just came right into my bat path and like,
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: you know, even like I just saw it out of
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: your hand, and some guys just don't pick it up
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: and some guys do. And you know him, Luis Gonzalez.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Mostly lefties, not a lot of Righty's kind of raked me.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Doug Landville hit me pretty good, surprisingly enough, but yeah
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: there was there was a few like Barry Bonds never
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: took me deep, but he went six for ten. Yeah,
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: we're in San Francisco. Is a good one. And Barry's
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: like in Berry, like prime Berry. You know, he's just
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: going up to the plate like not even gonna hit
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: because nobody's all I think he was walked two hundred
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: and thirty times or something. And Kevin Malar was my
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: teammate at the time, and I'm in San France. I'm
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: getting ready to go out at the bottom of the
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: first sitting and I'm going up the steps and i
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: just feel my like jersey pull back and I'm like,
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: turn around. He goes, you don't got a harrow in
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: your ass if you don't find out what you got
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: against Barry Bonds. I'm want four seam fastballs down the
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: middle as hard as you can find out. And I'm like, okay,
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: so I we did the priority number one. I got
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: to get the first two guys out, you know. So
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: I get the first two guys out. Here comes Barry.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Doctor J's like, man, Barry Bonds, old place going nuts.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: And I'm laying on the mountain. I'm like I look
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: out left field and I'm like, all right, here we go,
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: you know. And I throw the first pitch ninety four
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: four seams center cut right down the middle, and all
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: of a sudden, Barry's like, oh, okay, hold on, you're
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: gonna you wanna play all right, you can do this,
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: you know. Then I throw another four seam fastball like
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: middle away fouls it back, and then I throw an
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: O two four seam fastball middle away again like ninety five,
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: and he tattoos it off the top corner of the
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: right field like wall that's up there like every other park.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: It's a homer and then it carems for a triple
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: and I come in and Lar goes Man, you should
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: have got your stuff in Mexico, you know, like it
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: was just really funny. It was just like the best.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: You were facing the best in the moment, and I
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: was like, all right, let me find out where my
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: stuff plays. And I not not against him. Nobody's good.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: What do you ever have words with depending on who
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: was catching you, if you shook him off more than
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: once or twice? Was that ever an issue when you
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: got back in the dug out or in the clubhouse.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: I don't think it was ever an issue. There was
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: definitely guys who were better to handle it, you know,
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: like some guys like you know, coming up right, like
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Mike Redman was great, you know, he was really great
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: about why like more conversation, Charles Johnson like and I
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: just didn't think you should go with that pitch, you know.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: And then you had guys like Cooy Hill, who is
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: a great catcher for us with the Cubs for a
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: few years. You know, like as far as like winning
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: ball games, a dude could frame throw attitude and like
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: sometimes you're shake and shake it and you just.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Go just whatever, just throw whatever.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna put any more fingers down, Like what
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: do you what do you want to throw? Already put
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: them around. He wants to go back to the fastball,
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: like throw it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: You know, how do you feel that communication now with
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: electronic communication?
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: I don't love it because I like it in the
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: sense of the speeding up the game and there's lights
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: of mountain visits and all those kind of things. I
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: just believe that that was part of it. Right, Like
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: we've slowly started to take things away from the mental side,
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: like cards to tell you where to stand. You know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: stand here because it's gonna happen. But although you know,
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: maybe on that moment it doesn't, you know, and you
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: get the tailor made double play ball in the second
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: basement standing on second base, you know, And I get it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: I understand the percentages and the data and all that
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: kind of stuff, but also like they're all it's all
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: great on a macro level, but every individual game and
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: every individual moment in the game is a micro level, right,
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: So like we can get to that data however we want.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: We can have enough at bats to say that the
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: ball is going to hit it hitting the hole. But
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: like maybe today I got an extra zip on my fastball,
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: and so maybe that guy might not, you know, necessarily
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: be on time. He might be a little bit late.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: Like Jason Hayward is one of the best in the league.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: You watch him play a Shane Victorino when I play
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: with Vic in Boston, man, like you watch him. I
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: told Peter Gammons one time and if you're ever talking
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: to Peter asking about the story, and he did, and
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: he goes it was one of the coolest things is
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: I go, don't watch the pitcher, don't watch the hit
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: or nothing. Watch Shane Victoria play rightfield and watch him
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: move pitch to pitch like a chess game, dude, And
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: he's like, oh, it's one two, I'm going to take
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: three steps into my left so that the little bass
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: hit doesn't fall in because if if it's a double
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: in the gap, that's the pitcher's fall. But if it's
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: if it's a little blue pit that's going to fall
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: and that's my fault, I should be the one playing
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: for the executed pitch, you know. And so you know,
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: I think like with the pitch communication, like Sodo and
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: I would have, we would have innings where we didn't
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: even use he would use signs, and we never I
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: would catch the ball and turn to my left. I
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: want to fastball away. I catch the ball and like
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: as I catch it, I just put my hand to
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: catch it with my glove like this and then really casually.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: And that means I want to high fastball, you know.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Like I call it plays some football.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would like catch a ball back and then
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: just like grab my belt real quick like and just
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: move like that. I want to split the hitter doesn't know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: especially if the hitters looking at the third base coach
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: or something. Nobody knows. Now, you do all the signs,
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: but they don't mean anything, you know, and so then
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: they could relay something and be wrong whatever it is. Like,
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: And I just think we've taken that away from guys.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: You know, we got to do it. We're going to
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: tell you where a stand, you know, over there. Two steps? Okay,
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: back up, Tommy, Okay, come in Tommy, Like, come on, man,
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: they're girl men. Let him play. Yeah, let them figure
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: it out, you know, but we can't risk anything going wrong,
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: you know, and then it falls in and we're like,
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: well but yeah, but the card said we should be there,
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: so we were there and it didn't go there. So
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: at least the data. We played the data. But it's
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: like sometimes you got to play your heart, your eyes,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: your sense, your smell whatever. It is. Like, man, that
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: guy I saw him last night at the bar and
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: he was wrecked. Bro, he is not on a heat.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: That's not dad. There's no data.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: No, you can't quantify it, you know.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Final four questions. So you mentioned Peter Gammon. Would you
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: ever finish a start and go watch like baseball tonight?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, watch you if you had a good one,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: or would you avoid it if it was a bad one?
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Well, if I came over to the Marlins, so it
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: was usually just a box score, you know, we were
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: on the Highlight reel and the Marlins one today, you know,
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: like but yeah, no, absolutely, and like I would always
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: I love that stuff, like even a replay, you know,
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: just to just to see it and kind of just
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: especially a good game, right the game, all sports, but
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: especially baseball, which is a highly built on failure. Like
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: you're going to fail a lot. You know, name out
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: other things in the world where you can fail seventy
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: percent of the time and be great, Like it's just
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: not really realistics. And so when you do have positive
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: things happen and you can reinforce that in your head
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: so you can walk in like Josh Beckett with your
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: chest boat out and be like, I'm a badass. You know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I think is really important. You know, not necessarily in
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: the moment. I don't love the iPad in the game
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: where they let me let me see that, like because
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: in that moment you won't feel what did I feel
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: instead of what I see? But like afterwards when I'm
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: having an ice cool beer on my couch and be like, yeah, I.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Felt like I be like ravage, come on, put a
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: up more of a something to beat buddies with them
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: so they like, put some more of the highlight.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: I finally struck out, Fred McGriff throw that up there.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: You know, Broan, what was your lifestyle like traveling in
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: the majors hotels? You know, like, what what would you do?
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of downtime.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a I'm a different bird. I will say
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: that I think if you talk to guys who played
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: with me, they can kind of agree. I highly encouraged
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: fun events, you know. I never said no to an opportunity.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: You know, Like Kenny Chesty came into Chicago and he
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: was throwing off doing a concert and doing the stretch
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff. And I popped up
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: in game in my in my uniform, you know, and
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: I into his suite with his dad and him, and
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I'm sitting there in my uniform during the game. Yeah,
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: and he goes, uh say, hey, man, I ke you sing.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: I go, well, I don't know what's Ken singing? And
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: he goes, we sing with me tonight. And I'm like,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: at Soldier Field, Sure, So I went out and did
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: you know the opening two verses from back where I
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: come from at Solderfield from fifty seven thousand people Like,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: That's how I lived my life always. So if it's
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: like there's a concert, I'm going, there's a hockey game,
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: I'm going, you want to practice with the team. Absolutely,
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: I'm a little bit like you, like you like to
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: experience all those things and do those things the same way.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: At New York City, get off the bus. I didn't
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: go to my room, gave my bag to the clubhouse.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Guys had put that in my room. I'll see you later.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I'd go to Times Square till two in the morning,
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: walk around, experience see things, watch people play three carmonty,
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: you know, like if there was an event, I'm going
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: to go if you know. Like sometimes like I remember
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: David Ross and I being like, you know, walking around
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: New York three thirty in the morning and eating pizza.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: He's like, what are we doing? I go, I don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: know how many times you go to New York three
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: thirty in the morning. Let's go. It's you know. And
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I see guys like that had a different life, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: that's that's okay. We all have our own path. I
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: was very much my hotel room was sleeping and that
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: was it. I didn't hang out in my hotel room.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: I got up golf, they got up and worked out.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I went paddle board and you know, in Detroit, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Shelley's like, I'm picking up. We're going paddle board and
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: like all these different little things. I go out and
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: stay in Malibu when we're playing in la and go
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: surf with layered and you do all these things. Because
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: I just loved I love that. So that was like
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: how I was, you know, when I was playing my
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: whole entire career always Yeah.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Final two questions.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you a question.
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: I'm very intrigued by the unwritten rules of baseball and
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: the enforcement of those things. And uh, let's this is
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: purely hypothetical. Let's say that you know a message has
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: to be sent to a guy, and maybe it's a
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: specific player, Like just hypothetically, this is the size of
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: somebody named Sammy Sos, Like Sammy Sos Yeah, and you
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: know they're like, hey, you know, Sammy's got to wear one.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: I would have been like if I were a picture,
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: I'd be like, I'm trying it. Hit Craig Gray back it.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Was like five six, you know, and.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: Careful with Walt Weiss though he's a tough guy.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Really see, I love thinking wrestler.
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: But like one, what goes through your mind when it's like, okay,
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: you were wanting me to face down a monster in
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: that scenario? And h two does maybe who's catching or
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: playing third base factor into your confidence where it's like tex,
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: I've got Michael Remember Michael Barrett.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: That guy was a tough dude.
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: Yep, I've been like I would be like, okay, I'll
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: but you know, like Michael's there, I probably feel a
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: lot better about it. I mean, like, how tell me
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: how what a picture is thinking? And like is there
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: a strategy? Like I feel a lot better about it
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: because he's catching that kind.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Of Yeah, I think. I think generally, you just know
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: that you're already at an advantage, right, you're pretty much,
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: let's just call it. You have five friends closer than
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: the other guys, So like there is a security in that, right,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Like if he charges the mound, my infielders and my
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: catcher are all going to get there before anybody else
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: on his team. Maybe the ion deck can get out
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: there fast enough. And so in it coming up in
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: my era, it was a thing. It was a send
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: a message like you know, you know do this you
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: like I got. I got thrown out of one game
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: in my entire career for retaliation. I hit Travis Fryman
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: after Mike Lowell got drilled pretty hard, and I got
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: thrown out for that is the only time. But I
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: never really I never really worried about it personally, Like
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: even the biggest guys like this most scared I ever
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: had to Retell. He was at it moyses Loo when
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: I was with the Cincinnati Reds and Jason LaRue owned
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Mark Pryor like just for whatever reason, just hit him everywhere.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: And then Mark Pryor was throwing at his head. And
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: I'm like, and Jason's my catcher. And so I get
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: two out and I kind of like, you know, somebody
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: said something that dug out, like that's bullcrap. I said,
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: I got this and I got two out and here
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: comes moyes Lou and like this dude is like the toughest,
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: like you know, and I'm like, oh, man, god, we
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: go here we go. Don't hit him above the belt.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Don't hit him above the belt. And I and and
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: this is how pro he is. I ninety five right
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: to the quad and he just bent down, took off
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: his shin guard and went to first base. Never looked
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: out there. I never looked at him, you know, And
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: in my eyes, it was like, man, I already respected
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: this guy. Now I really respect him because he knows
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: what's going on. You know. I think it's changed a lot.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: It's not a thing anymore. These guys are too friendly
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: with each other, not too friendly at like meaning like
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: they all know each other.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: They grow up and they play together.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: I have travel ball everywhere there on TMSA perfect games.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: They're doing all these things so they don't and then
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: like rarely do you ever. Even in my career, I
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: think I hit one hundred guys or roughly around hundred guys.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: I think probably five of them are on purpose. You know,
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: there's not a lot that are on purpose. Some of
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: them might be like get off the plate, but like
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: I'm not like I'm trying to hit this guy. But
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: you always have like the back pocket, like you know
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: when you're when you know you're you know, when I
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: directly at first base and their dugout is over there,
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: like on first baseline, I'm like, I'm good, yeah, you know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: like I'm fine, he's got he's got my back.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Last baseball question, when you do your musical Mount Rushmore
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: a favorite artists ever lowering the mound. That's the talk
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: now because I would have batted.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: The whole league is batting like two thirty to forty
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: depending on what week you look at it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Thoughts, Uh have George Brett to tell a few more
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: kids how to hit and teach that way.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I listen to George Brett tell like talk about heating.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: It's great, like planes, yeah, big planes guy, yeah, count
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: count guy.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Like I think there's a little bit of a lost
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: art in that. Like it's fine. Your three A swings
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: are great, you know, like put an a swing on it,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: three A swings, get three swings in. But like it
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: also is really nice to leave the game one to nothing.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: So if that means getting a runner over from second
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: base so that you know, you know who likes hitting
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: with a runner on third and one out the guy
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: behind you, you know, your teammate because now I guess
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: they just fly out, you know, guy in fields back,
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: just put the ball in play. You really can't put
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: the ball in play. You can't do that. You're the
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: best hitters in the world and you can't. I get it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Dudes are throwing hard, but like you can't shorten up
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: and just play Pepper to the second basement who's played
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: all the way back and get an RBI. Your average
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: goes like this all year, man, those are RBIs only
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: go like that looks really good with one hundred of
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: them at the end of the year.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: So don't lower the mount.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: Don't lower the mount. I think that's a cop out
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: for guys not wanting to adjust the way they hit.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: What about when they lowered it, like Bob Gibson, a big,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: bigger reason than the mound got lowered to begin with,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Like you could come up and just knock them down.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you feel like it should still be even higher?
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: I would love it if it was higher. No, I
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: think they found a sweet spot. I think that's a
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: really good place to be right now, and I don't
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: think it needs to be adjusted. I think that's just
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: I think you risk injuries. I just think that there's
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: it's a way we want to be creative because you know,
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: averages are down, but offensive production is up. Runs are up,
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: so guys are hitting home runs. I think if we
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: just put a little emphasis on paying the three hundred
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: hitter instead of just paying for ops, so that all
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: guys do is try to launch every single pitch, because like, cool,
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: if I go zero for three and I hit the
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: ball hard three times, that's all that matters. Exit v
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: low and like if we put an emphasis on like, yeah,
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: you hit three hundred, you get paid. You know, It's
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: like if I'm a manager, I have three rules beyond
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: time hustle and if you hit a home run, you
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: play the next day. That's it. I don't care what
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: the analytics say, you play the next day.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Musical Mount Rushmore. Final question, give me the four artists
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: that have infected your life the most.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, Garth Brooks.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Why Garth?
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: That's my child. I grew up you know, loving country
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: music and that's like you know, times of the the memories.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: It sparks in my head. Man is like so great. Yeah, yeah,
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: have you met him? Uh yeah, yeah. Actually he did
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: the teammates for kids. It's charity thing that he would
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: always do. And we actually uh got to hang one
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: night up in his suite, which was which was pretty awesome.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: It was a weird collection me him, Roulan Gardner, Larry
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: Walker and uh it was it was a blast. But
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: just he was awesome, man, so awesome. I would probably
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: I would say Marvin Gay. I love his music. I
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: love the soul that I can listen sit there and
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: listen to that genre of music, like all day. It's
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: on my playlist all the time. I would probably put Uh,
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: I probably would put Eddie on there. I would put
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: Eddie Vetter on there.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Just Eddie or Pearl Jam.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: I would put Pearl Jam on there. You know, I
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: love Ed and I love his voice, but I just
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: love Mike and Matt and I. You know those guys
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: their music and Chicago.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Did you know him.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: He's a big cups.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I actually gotta do it. Do a little fun
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: thing at Chelios's Jersey retirement. I got to get up
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: and sing that we did the band We did the Weight,
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: which was a.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Lot of fun, like the band song.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was great. So I put
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: I would put them and then uh, when you're saying,
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: I would put Chris Stapleton on there for cool. Yeah,
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: I think that's probably been my biggest bridge, like at once,
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: you know, not that once, but like as Garth you know,
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: got older and you know, still performs obviously, but and
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, Chris came in and I
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: liked him, you know, even before he was Chris Stapleton,
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: like listening to you know, old stuff and and things
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: like that, and and then what he's blown up into
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: is and and still so humble, you know, from what
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: I see or hear or even when I witness when
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: he's at innings Fest, how he treats people and the
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: same way.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I was a fan of you back in Canada when
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: you were sixteen.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: I was like, that's my guy.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I know I have got good Yeah, that's what I
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: always say. Like I knew Dempster when he was just
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: a kid, like but they were like, well you were
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: just a kid too.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: But I knew hey when I when I was at
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Max over there at karaoke last night, and and and
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: the dude decided to sink Tennessee whiskey. I was full
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: blair and vocals, so I was ready to go. I
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: went Proud Mary last night.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: You sang Proud Mary last night? Did you do the
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Tina or that John Tina?
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah? It was the litro. Yeah, oh yeah.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I would have loved to have a scene video A
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: big fan. And I know you're calling the game. I'm
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: playing now. Are you calling the game?
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Tonight?
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Super for this. It's gonna be a good time.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: Are you Are you ready?
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I'm ready.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just worried because we we've been traveling around and
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: like we were at University of Arizona with the football
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: program yesterday and so you know, we made a little
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: came to Dallas.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go up to University of Oregon.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: But if I don't start, that's what I'm worried about,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: like getting here, diverting our schedule, and then being on
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: the bench.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm scared of that. So it's a real thing.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: It's a real thing, and you don't think it will be.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: Like I remember years ago, I played in a celebrity
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: like a baseball player celebrity thing in Pump Springs and
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: I was pitching and then I went to the lineup
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: card and I wasn't hitting, and I went Lou Brock
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: was her manager, and I went into his office and
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: I'm like, you're really not gonna let me hit in
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: this softball game? And he goes, well, you're a pitcher,
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: and I go, I know my average isn't very good,
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: but like and he goes, fine. I end up hitting
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: the tater. But I was like, you know, like thank you,
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Like you can't bench me in.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: This So that's what I'm worried about. That I traveled
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: all this way.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like I'm ready to play and then
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I for some reason, there's you know, one of these
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: rappers is ahead of me. Yeah, and you know that
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: will be embarrassing for me. Yeah, so that's what's up.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: Okay, So who's you do? You know who your manager?
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Don't know anything? Okay, I just know I know a
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: couple of people. I know Dion.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: We did a pilot for ABC together for the show
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: didn't get picked up. We worked with like four months.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: I love Deon.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's awesome and he might be he's one of
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: the coaches.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Oh he's coaching.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so now you got an end.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: If he's my coach, I'll be playing that leadoff let's go.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I thought it was weird because his foot, you know,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: he was injured. Yeah, and they said he was coming.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I messaged him, but I don't know he was coaching. O. Yeah,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I hope he's my coach.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Feel better?
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's my coach, yeah, so no, but I've
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: never done this before.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: What's the tip? Because I can still play a little bit,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: But what's what's the tip?
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, I think with the hitting is don't over
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: swing everybody because you know they want to They want
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: to hit it so hard and then you end up
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: rolling over popping it up and it's like and just
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: wait a little extra second for that ball to get there,
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: you know. But that definitely just yeah, just don't overswing
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: put the good word in for me. If I'm gonna
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go over there.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say, hey, dude, that guy can still play.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I just saw him. He was taking ground balls
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: and yeah, Lobby, Yeah absolutely, Ryan.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Thanks now, I really appreciate the time. Yeah, thanks you
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: for having moving for us, and we'll see you later
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: on tonight.
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: You got it all right. I feel like.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: We've been looking for players. The closest we've gotten is
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: we are. Driver said he dropped off King Griffy Junr
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: like two hours before he dropped us off.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: So that means he's here somewhere.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere, King Griffy Junior is here, and that's awesome.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: As we record this, it's Saturday, so the actual All
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Star game doesn't starts till Tuesday.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Did you know that?
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: So none of the player's gonna because they're still playing game, correct,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: which is kind of disappointing because I was looking for
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: like Bobby wit Junr.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: But but but some of the older players that aren't playing,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen one of them. Well, man, I'm telling you,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Kevin and I may have seen someone in the gym.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: We don't know an older player.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: No, uh uh, somebody playing the celebrity softball game. Just
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: say who it is? Why are you hiding it?
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Because because we're not sure if it was really him.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, who did you think it might have been?
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: Does Bryant?
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: He was wearing a hoodie. He was working out, and
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: actually he was like in between reps, so he's just
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: sitting on the bench and then we were kind of
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: staring and then he looked up at us, and we're like,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: ohh and then we looked out quick.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: But but he wasn't that tall, which I would assume
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: he would be tall. What do you say, wasn't that tall? Like, uh,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: taller than you?
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: I would say the guy was about six to one
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: taller than you. Yeah, by one inch, but.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: You're not five eleven, No, I'm six foot No. No,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: how strong was he?
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: Though?
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: He was pretty fit, but he wasn't overly ripped, and
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: he kind of looked young.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, des Bryant is six to two, so he's not.
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: But here's where I'm a little confused, Eddie.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: He was sitting down.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, but no, no will while you
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: went to go do your other he turned away. He
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: stood out, that's all.
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: I was like, when you're talking about his height, I
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: was like, wait, how do you know? Also, we were
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: sitting on the ab Gruncher his.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Place in Arizona.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: There was a Michael Jordan old school cut out of
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: him from like a Weedi's box or something and had
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: his actual height and.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: He people remember that poster.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: He couldn't have been more than ten in the Wheaties box.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: So Eddie's like, look hout tall, I am.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: I was almost as tall as Michael Jordan.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: So we haven't seen anyone yet. But we got here
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: last night. I went straight to sleep and you guys
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: went out.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: We did. Yeah, we went out to uh right next
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: to the hotels. It's just a bunch of like I
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: don't know. There's one area that where there's ten bars
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: in one area called Texas Live and Reading. Kevin wrote able, I.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Heard you guys went to the video game place. I
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: saw Red throw the ball. Yep was see the fastest arm? No,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Kevin was, how fast you throw it?
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: Seventy four?
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: Nice read. That's pretty good though for both of you.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, went too bad.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: You feel like you'd beat him?
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I probably should have Are you
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: more of an athlete than Kevin.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: When it comes to baseball?
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Probably?
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: What d that's tough?
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: No, you think you're a better You hit the side
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: of the thing. You didn't even hit the accuracy. You
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: couldn't even read your accuracy because you hit the side
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: of it.
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: And I thought I was gonna hit my arm on it.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Oh they were plastic balls, and it really was like squishy, can.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: You throw a knuckleball? Absolutely? Really?
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Ye?
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: No, remember I brought that up and I took his
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: spotlight on the podcast.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: I used to be able to throw Another thing?
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Is our friends off all? Ricky's here and Reed did
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: not know his name and he's been hanging in with us.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: For like what did I just say?
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Nothing?
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: No?
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: I mean you didn't have a guess.
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: I was Malvin, Yeah, No, it's it's Ricky.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: I said, Jimmy, that's not the same name though, that's
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: rick Yeah, that's Ricky.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: A lot of people guess Charlie.
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: With me.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Really, I get a little Charlie.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Uh So we were like, read what's his name is?
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: He said, hey, hey, doing Mike check And I was like,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: why would you just hate him?
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: What's his name?
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Staid?
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Hanging out with us all day and he's like, I
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: don't know his name. I don't know his name, so
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: read this is Ricky.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Sorry, Ricky, Ricky, this is reed nice to meet you, Ricky.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: I'm Eddie Softball.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Ricky works for the University of Texas, right officially? Or
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: do you work for BEVO?
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: You work for both?
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: You work for the Longhorn.
• 53:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm you know, the Jerry Maguire of that longhornes
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: he's the agent.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: So you guys are now officially in the SEC.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: That's correct.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: That was a big date.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: We are.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: As we're almost two weeks in.
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: He was looking at his watch, but because we get
• 53:18
  Speaker 8: the date on there, it's a it's a uh, it's
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: a time X.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: The Oklahoma Athletic Director called me and said, hey, would
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: you come and do like a show on the day
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: we go in the SEC. We want to do a
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: big announcement. I want to have welcome to the SEC.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: You have a bunch of the kids out do a
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: free show. And I like the Athletic director of Oklahoma,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: like I know him a little bit. His name is Joke, right,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Joe yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe c yeah, and so super
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: nice guy, and I was like, Joe, se I'm not
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: a O you fan. I do like oh You more
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: than Texas now because my wife.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: But I was like, I'm not.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: That's that's he's married and that's tough.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: But I'm not an O you fan.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: And so I didn't want any part of welcoming oh
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: You or Texas to the sec as like, come along,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I'll be your guide as we talk you to. So
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I'm happy you guys are here because now you get
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: to play like actual schedules.
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean you ask me, you know a lot
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: of what we've were. It kind of sounds a lot
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: like the old Southwest Conference. I mean we played Arkansas
• 54:19
  Speaker 8: a whole bunch. We're talking about the long time technically.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: SMU and TCU.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: You get to leave all that behind. SMU's not even
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: in the conference. Wasn't the Big twelve anymore?
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, play Georgia like Alabama's schools, LSU, these schools were playing.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: They're not going to need an introduction. We're pretty familiar.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully you'd get matched up in a single bowl
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: game against one of them at the end of the year,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: after you beat all the little patsis.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 54:46
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think Texas A and M had a
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: hard time with those little pats's I didn't. They weren't
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: winning much in the Big twelve.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, true, and then they paid their coach, timbo Fisher
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: one billion dollars and then you got to keep all
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: of it. Oh my god, I'm super excited that you
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: guys are coming, not to the SEC just because my
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: wife's I know you fan, and we get to be
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: in the same conference now and then.
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: You're united in your horns downism.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: You know, you're just like sensitive about horns.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: It's not it's.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Knowledgeable, doesn't even allow it.
• 55:16
  Speaker 8: The only the only reason that it would ever bother me,
• 55:20
  Speaker 8: Like people have done it to me a million times.
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: You come and put it two inches from my face.
• 55:25
  Speaker 8: That's a little bit different story, like personal space.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Like the personal space. They were saying they were gonna
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: call penalties on teams for a game.
• 55:33
  Speaker 8: But that's like if we did guns down Texas Tech,
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: same thing we got.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Yes it did.
• 55:40
  Speaker 8: Mike Davis got a penalty for doing guns down in
• 55:44
  Speaker 8: love it don't question me you talking to.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I would also like to say the reason I hate
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Texas so much is because you guys are bigger and
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: better than us, and I agree with all of that.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: I've often said that you guys have.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: More money, you're bigger, effect you've won, you know, more
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: champion how many championships you guys won.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean it depends on how you count.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: But you know, for account, okay, so we've won.
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: We're not counting like Alabama accounts, where it's like, oh,
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: we lost three games and then you know somebody else
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: is undefeatable recounted.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: You guys were our rival in the Southwest Conference. We
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: weren't really yours.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: We were just a team you didn't like because we
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: didn't like you.
• 56:18
  Speaker 8: Now, I think the Texas Arkansas is A is a legitimate,
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: recognized rivalry to Longhorn fans like way more than Texas Tech,
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: way more than TCU.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: But not Oklahoma A and M. Right, you never want
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: to be somebody's third place. That's not that's not the
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: real rivalry, that's just somebody you don't like.
• 56:36
  Speaker 8: Well, I think Oklahoma is our number one rivalry. I
• 56:39
  Speaker 8: would probably put A and M second, but there are
• 56:43
  Speaker 8: a lot of Longhorn fans that would put Arkansas right
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: there with Texas A and M. I mean they're typically older.
• 56:50
  Speaker 8: But I mean when we played all three years ago
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: or whatever it is, I have never seen more school
• 56:59
  Speaker 8: sponsored in my life.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Like they were like they had a guy on at
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: the game. It's like, come on, let's see those horns down.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Like that's all. It wasn't. Everybody was.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: Everybody was seven in a uniform, uniform, and so they
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: charged the field and I'm like, we're trying to get
• 57:21
  Speaker 8: off the field and get out of there, and like
• 57:23
  Speaker 8: people are grabbing me and like saying all kinds of stuff.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: They go down there too.
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: No, Beava wasn't there, but I was there, and I
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: think they thought I was a coach or something. They
• 57:33
  Speaker 8: had no idea who they were telling they were talking to.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: But like it was heated.
• 57:38
  Speaker 8: It was heated, and quite honestly, the girls were more
• 57:42
  Speaker 8: aggressive than the guys. Interesting, oh yeah, oh yeah, what
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: do you think that was?
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: Buzz?
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's so rantic at this point, like
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: an observation.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: I was sitting up in a suite taking it all in,
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: So you didn't storm the field was up to high,
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: was up to high.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: I'm happy that it's happening.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: I just wasn't gonna go be a part of Oklahoma's
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the SEC day, even though I enjoyed Joe
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Ci and I like Oklahoma better the Texas, But Oklahoma
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Texas rivalry feels very You're you're.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: On even term A and M. You guys kind of
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: look down at because they're like the little brother.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're They're a great school.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Letters on the name to even exist, well, they they
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: rarely use them.
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: I mean they're the only school that I know that
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: you know, Michigan State don't do it, Florida State, don't
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: do it. You don't somebody calls themselves a Florida seminole,
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: like they say Texas Aggie's all the time, which is different.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're Texas A and M.
• 58:35
  Speaker 8: But like I will say that their fans are as
• 58:39
  Speaker 8: passionate as any school in the country.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, we go play there. It is crazy loud.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Do you expect to win the SEC this year?
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: I expect to compete to win THEE.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: What would be in your mind a successful season record
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: wise eliminate the playoffer.
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know how many wins and I
• 58:59
  Speaker 8: you know, I'm I would I would hope that we
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: would win ten games.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: But you know if you went only ten, is that
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: a success?
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I'm in charge of Bevo,
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: you know the offensive coordinator.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Let me read, let me read.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: I love the answer.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: Let me read your schedule and you give me wins
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: and losses. This is no my gosh, you can do it,
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: because I'll do it.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: I'm loving this right now. You're representing your school. I
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: know I go exactly exactly right. There's no pressure.
• 59:28
  Speaker 8: I lost the we have no there isn't you tell
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: me we're playing the Patriots next week.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like, I don't like here, we go
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: give me winner loss?
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Ready?
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, twenty twenty four schedule, game number one, August thirty
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: first is the thing.
• 59:42
  Speaker 8: Let's just go ahead and say there's You're not going
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: to catch me saying we're gonna lose it.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: It's just not every game, okay, you just we're twelve
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: and oh but realistically you're not going to go and
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: defeated when you're doing this right now, So you got
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: to pick some losses. I am not going to pick
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: a loss.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: There's no way at Texas in Austin. Where who Colorado State?
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: At Texas in Austin will win. Okay, Texas at Michigan
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: on the Timber six win in Michigan. Wow, that's strong,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: I'd agree.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: What does that mean? Oh my god?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, U t s A at Texas win, Louise, How
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: do you guys play such weak games?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about. It plays like Furman.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Louisiana, Monroe at Texas win. Yeah, Mississippi,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: State of Texas win. Bet the farm Texas the Oklahoma
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: and Dallas win.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Oh that's the boomer.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Sooner, Georgia at Texas win, Texas at Vanderbilt. When bet
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: the farm Florida at Texas win.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: Come on, Ricky, you're not even playing the game because
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: there's no like. But but at least say it's going
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: to be a challenge.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Back to that.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Texas at Arkansas, when Kentucky at Texas win, Texas and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Texas A and m win. Okay, so let's win Texas
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: versus the Chiefs. I like, well, okay, what do you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: think will be the hardest game for you guys this year?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: You'll obviously win.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean I would think that everybody would think
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 8: the Georgia game is going to be the toughest game.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 8: But we have to play at Arkansas, we have to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 8: play at Texas A and M. That's gonna be tough.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 8: Obviously playing the Sooners and Dallas is always tough, but
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: like going on the playing Arkansas and Texas A and
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: M on the road in the same year, that's tough.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's gonna Those are going to be the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 8: most hostile crowds.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: We faced all season, bar not.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I think the Arkansas game will be different this time
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: around than last time around.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: What's good, I mean, what's good for you guys too.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: It's part of it's eleven am game as well, a
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Fattville We're not Gonnan years drunk.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean I agree that, Like I'd rather play
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: Arkansas at eleven than seven pm.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't even have a team the cause team no, no,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: you do Dallas Cowboys schedule at any Yes.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: Dallas, and I love the Dallas Cowboys.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: But if you ask me Dallas Cowboys versus long words,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: and we're like, man, if we get a couple.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Of turnovers, I like, here we go, both of you
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: guys one.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: All right, now you can be honest? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Game one Cowboys at Browns win.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: I'll take a win. Take the spread two.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Saints at Cowboy you don't even know the spread, whatever
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: it is. Saints at Cowboys. When Ravens at Cowboys.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: Loss, be a close one. We might lose that one.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: No, min you gotta pick, we'll lose it.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: Right now.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: You are two and one, okay, Cowboys at Giants win
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: when three and one, Cowboys at Steelers win win four
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: and one, Lions at Cowboys, Lions at Cowboys, yeah.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: When that'll be the win because I think they play
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: them again. Okay, I might say a loss on that.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: You're five and one right now.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: We do really well at home. We do really well
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: at home.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Cowboys at forty nine Ers loss, five and two, Cowboys
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: at Falcons win, six and two, Eagles at cow Boys win.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: Eagles yeah.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: At Dallas when seven and twoccording to Eddie, so far
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Texans at Cowboys.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Ooh at in Dallas. I'll take a win on that one.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Last win eight too, okay, Cowboys at Commanders when win
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: nine to two?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: For readdy, Giants at Cowboys. When when Bengals at Cowboys.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: Loss probably a loss?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Oh like ten and three, eleven and three. I forget
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: who we are.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: But I have one more. I have us losing one
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: more than.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Ten and three.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, Cowboys at Panthers, When when Buccaneers at Cowboys?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: When when Cowboys at Eagles lost loss to loss?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: And Commanders at Cowboys when we lost four?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: So the Cowboys at thirteen and four and then.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: I have I have them at twelve and five. Then
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: did I have five? I had five? Then I had
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: one more than Yeah, you have one more than me.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: But around the same.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Would you pay Dak Ricky sixty million dollars because that's
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: going to be about what markets said that if he
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: is the new guy that's going to set the uh
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: set pace.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 8: My thought is on that that if you're not in
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: a place that you don't think you're going to compete
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: any anytime in the near future, then no, Like if.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: You eleven twelve games a year, sure, okay, but like
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: every year.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: But the thing now, I'm not if this isn't anything
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 8: on deck. I'm just saying that, like if you think, okay,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: if our window is closed theoretically after the season, I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 8: don't think you go and blow all that money on
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 8: a quarterback that it's not gonna You're not gonna have
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 8: a team to get to the super Bowl. But if
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 8: they feel like that they are there, then you know,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 8: if they maybe.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Thirty one years old, he's still age wise in his prime.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: But do you think Dak can win a couple of
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: playoff games?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: Gosh, just hard man, that's hard because he's alway is
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: it Dax's ball? They have it one player?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: Well, we always put it on him because he's the
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: one that cracks. He's the one that plays true. I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: just I disagree.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 8: I think that we've been an undisciplined team like that
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 8: was a whole team, like that was an embarrassment that
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 8: went on Dak. That's talking about like the last season
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 8: and to be like, I don't you know, I kind
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 8: of feel like that when we were going into some
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 8: of those playoff games that it felt like we were
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 8: at a disadvantage. That it to me, it felt like
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: the other team was going to be more prepared, like
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 8: we were going to need a break or two to win.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 8: It wasn't like it was kind of like playing the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 8: Packers in the playoffs over the last decade where it
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 8: was like, oh gosh, you know, like just waiting for
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers to go down the field and beat us.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: At the end, you know, well thanks for Cowboy talking
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: said about, well, what we're literally a thousand steps away
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: from All Star.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: We can no, I know, but dude, it's so cool.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: We were working out this morning and I can like
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: all I could see was Cowboys Stadium and I was like,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: do you know what on this elliptical I'm working out
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: with the county with the cow We.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Drove by in a Parma complex and he was like,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: I guess who lives there, Dak Prescott.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: It's right across from the stadium.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, that's it. We're done. I have
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: to stretch, get more arm loose.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: Yes, good luck.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: Dudes.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that coach Prime, Yeah you don't.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: You don't call him Deon.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: You don't have that right. That's his name. You don't
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: have that right to call him. What are you talking about?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: That's what the whole world call.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: They call him coach Prime. Trust I don't wize it
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: was he was coaching. So I text him and I said,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: are you around? And they said, I don't really know
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: what I'm doing because he lives here, so he's not
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: like singing at a hotel.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: And then I said, if you're coaching put me at first.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: Me they just said not yet, okay, So that means
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: the bubbles.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: On and off.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: The bubbles are on and off like I think I did.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that says text unsent. God, dang uh. That's it.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Thank you guys, and we'll see you guys soon