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3 Guys Before The Game - UMass Basketball & Cincinnati Football Preview (Episode 590) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Welcome one and all.
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  Speaker 2: It is time for three Guys before the game episode
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  Speaker 2: number five nine zero. That's right, five hundred and ninety,
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  Speaker 2: and we celebrate it with a kind of a sort
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  Speaker 2: of a double episode. We're in crossover season or combo
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  Speaker 2: season of basketball and football, so this will be our
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  Speaker 2: UMass basketball preview and our Cincinnati football preview, all for
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  Speaker 3: I like still voting.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say thanks to this weather. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: beyond numbers and a double dose of those numbers coming
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  Speaker 2: up in spreads on stats. So let's do this thing.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to have you back, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Good to be back. Good to be here. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: You had a very very fair reason for not being
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  Speaker 2: here in our last episode. Now, I mean you were
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  Speaker 2: doing getting ready for your election coverage. I mean, so
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  Speaker 2: that is a bona fide, legitimate reason not to be here,
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  Speaker 2: unlike the ninety nine percent of the other times.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Brad, I mean that he's not here. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: go get the oil change. Yeah. I told the guy
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  Speaker 1: to be there between one and seven. I gotta go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody asked me today if I could do something at
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  Speaker 1: twelve thirty. I said, nope, can't do it. There you go.
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  Speaker 1: Was it some kind of a national interview or something.
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  Speaker 1: It was a it was a forget what it was meeting? Yeah, sorry, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: couldn't do it. I said, no, I got to be
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  Speaker 1: in here.
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  Speaker 3: Ja.
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  Speaker 2: That becomes a good standard. Like whenever you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to do something, you know someone said hey, can you
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  Speaker 2: and just go hey, I'd love to doing three guys.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you already did this week episode. Oh practicing, practice,
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  Speaker 2: show prep, pray, show prep. Gonna do the show.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So we have a busy weekend. We've got football on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday high noon in Cincinnati and basketball before that Friday
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  Speaker 2: evening at the Coliseum, a seven o'clock tip West Virginia
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  Speaker 2: and UMass, second game of the season for both teams.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, how are you getting over to Cincinnati? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Two guys from Ohio. Two guys from Ohio. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta I gotta thank those guys Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Orville and his brother Orville lived in Ohio. They're famous Ohians.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're famous from Ohio. So I'm just gonna tip
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  Speaker 2: my cap to Orville. What was the other one's name,
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  Speaker 2: wur Wilburg.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I was struggling for Wilburg.
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  Speaker 2: So Orville and Wilbur, thank you for what you've done.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know it's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Flight.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it wasn't invented all that long ago when you
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  Speaker 2: think about it, and I mean in.
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  Speaker 1: His story, yeah, yeah right and yeah, like.
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  Speaker 3: You ever gotta think of that, Brad, No, I don't
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  Speaker 3: have not thought about that, think about right now?
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  Speaker 1: Well, think about it, just saying it's not interested in
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  Speaker 1: thinking about that.
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  Speaker 2: He's been he's been kind of very dismissive the last
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  Speaker 2: two times you've been here.
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  Speaker 1: He's been very dismissive of things.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about Corey Kiner and Rusoul Diggins from UMass.
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  Speaker 3: They're thinking about them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, I get it. So that's that's you,
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  Speaker 1: right brothers, not the right brothers, all due respect. Listen, seriously,
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  Speaker 1: have you been to the Aaron Space Museum in washingt Smithsonium. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's the new addition. That's I've been there in a while. No,
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  Speaker 1: teut near Dallas, No, No, oh, it's fantastic. Think about this.
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  Speaker 2: Orville and Wilbur first flight, first flight nineteen o three,
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  Speaker 2: Kitty Hawk.
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  Speaker 1: Kitty Hawk, Yeah, lasted twelve seconds, so think about it.
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  Speaker 1: In one hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty year,
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  Speaker 1: twenty one years. It's only been one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 1: one years. You go episode, Yeah, you can go anywhere
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  Speaker 1: you want to go. It's a hell of a deal.
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  Speaker 1: Flight would have been longer, but they had to go
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  Speaker 1: back to the terminal wait for their luggage.
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  Speaker 2: All right, all right, Johnny in the middle here wants
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  Speaker 2: to get to where he's been working on his.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff all days?
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  Speaker 3: Is h I hear?
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  Speaker 1: This doesn't give me my chance?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, first off, we start with hoo hoppies. Obvious observations
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  Speaker 2: heading into the football contest.
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  Speaker 1: It's just an honor that West Virginia can be a
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  Speaker 1: part of the celebration of the one hundredth anniversary of
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  Speaker 1: Knippert Stadium, or the NIP as they like to call it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Noon at the NIP or nip at the noon, Noon
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  Speaker 1: at the NIP, I think is what they're doing hereful
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  Speaker 1: how you say it, but yeah, they call it the
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  Speaker 1: ni Nippert Stadium. Yeah, name for Jimmy Knippert football standout
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  Speaker 1: at Cincinnati, who was I'm just doing some his This
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  Speaker 1: is Brad's is going to completely two now now, whose
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  Speaker 1: father grandfather was James gamble of Procter and game, Procter
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  Speaker 1: and gamble. Yea, how about that anyway, one hundredth anniversary
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  Speaker 1: of Nippert Stadium, they play a big celebration, going to
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  Speaker 1: be selling out crowd noon at Knippert Stadium. That's first.
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  Speaker 1: Second of all, how will West Virginia respond with a
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  Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator? You got a Cincinnati team has bred
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  Speaker 1: and you're going to talk about it's pretty good quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in Susby who is like third in the league in passing,
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  Speaker 1: third or fourth fifteen touchdowns, four interceptions, averaging two hundred
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  Speaker 1: eighty two yards a game, so he can toss it around.
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  Speaker 1: And we know what West Virginia's weakness has been in
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  Speaker 1: the defensive backfield. Now you have a new defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: Does anything change? I'm sure you will be addressing that.
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  Speaker 1: And then you got to worry about Corey Kiner. They're
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  Speaker 1: running back. He's a guy that is hard to bring down.
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  Speaker 1: Third or fourth in the league in rushing and his
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  Speaker 1: yards after contact Tony why Ac, Yeah, what is a
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  Speaker 1: brad five something.
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  Speaker 3: Fil seven, So basically seventy six percent of his rushing
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  Speaker 3: yards he's got six hundred and some five hundred. Some
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  Speaker 3: of those are after contact.
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  Speaker 1: He's a load, Yeah, so tough, tough to better bring
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  Speaker 1: him down.
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  Speaker 3: You have to bring him down and West Ring has
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  Speaker 3: been good at that though. Yeah, they have, right, defense
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  Speaker 3: been good. I'll get to that in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: If it comes down to the kickers, they've had some
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  Speaker 1: problems with the field goal kicker at thirteen of nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: I think that he's two different kickers maybe West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: mean well nine of ten, so they give West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: to Vanags there.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's come down to the kicker before at Nippers.
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  Speaker 1: Say it has. Indeed, Jonathan Ruffin hit the post and it's.
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  Speaker 3: Run off a doink.
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  Speaker 1: And as Neil Brown said, uh, even though it's it's
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  Speaker 1: the last third of the season, kind of has the
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  Speaker 1: feel of the second half, doesn't he has.
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  Speaker 2: The feels final No, it's final third, Okay, well have
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  Speaker 2: to feel like though, seriously, Brad, what's it feel like?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it feels like the half?
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  Speaker 1: Why? What? I think third?
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  Speaker 3: Because you chewed it up in the first two months
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  Speaker 3: with that schedule versus the back part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and because Neil Brown said, this is our season
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  Speaker 1: will be determined by the next four games. Now, I
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  Speaker 1: guess everybody can say that, but it's still he's right
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  Speaker 1: in you're four and four and your five hundred and
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  Speaker 1: you got these four games. You have teams that are
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  Speaker 1: playing better than they were at the beginning of the year.
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  Speaker 1: So this will determine starting starting Saturday, will be a
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the determination of how your season will be viewed.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough, Okay, this is your these two games, these
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  Speaker 2: four games will define your.
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  Speaker 1: Season, absolutely so. And it starts Saturday with with even
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  Speaker 1: though since I he's favored by four or five whatever,
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  Speaker 1: a very win once again, coin flip winnable game. Can
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  Speaker 1: you go in get the get the win with the
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  Speaker 1: backup quarterback? And I wouldn't have any reservent. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have any reservations about going in with Nico for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of reasons. One is that he has now game experience,
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  Speaker 1: played the whole game two weeks ago and played very well.
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  Speaker 1: He did, so, Yeah, you'd love to have Garrett Green.
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  Speaker 1: You hope he's well. He's dealing with the concussion or
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  Speaker 1: upper body injury. But you know, Brad, you got to
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  Speaker 1: feel good about going in there with Nico.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get into some numbers on that what you
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  Speaker 3: gain what you lose with Nico versus Garrett. So we'll
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  Speaker 3: talk a little bit about this. Here's here's another part
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  Speaker 3: I thought you might have in your hoo in a
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  Speaker 3: in an era when traditional rivals are tough to come by,
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  Speaker 3: this episode kind of represents going back and playing two
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  Speaker 3: old rivals here, Yeah, Cincinnata on the football side from
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  Speaker 3: the old biggiest days. The closest in proximity is we know,
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  Speaker 3: and then U Mass And I realize you got to
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  Speaker 3: be a certain age to remember the U Mass rivalry
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  Speaker 3: here at West Virginia. But there's a lot of games
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  Speaker 3: played between West Virginia going back to there's a good
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  Speaker 3: old school rivalry here, a ten rivalry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you should we just U know, when we misnamed
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  Speaker 2: the show it should be a rivalry weekend and yeah, you're.
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  Speaker 1: Right, You're right weekend.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought you'd go with that. So kind of
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  Speaker 3: kind of fun in an era when you don't get
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  Speaker 3: a lot of those traditional rivals anymore.
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  Speaker 1: And and the Cincinnati game, I mean, the Cincinnati has
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  Speaker 1: turned into a rivalry. And finally West Virginia fans, finally
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  Speaker 1: you have an away game that you just go across
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  Speaker 1: the A state line, not across the country. Correct, and
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  Speaker 1: the game that West Virginians can get. It's a crazy concept. Up,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Fifteen years since West Range played at Nippert?
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  Speaker 1: Is that right?
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  Speaker 3: Is that what Hunter said last night on sports Line?
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  Speaker 2: He did say that. So, yeah, So this is the
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  Speaker 2: thirteenth year in the Big twelve and I think we
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  Speaker 2: played them here the year before we left.
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  Speaker 3: And it was at Bengal Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: There could be very well, And isn't it. Isn't it
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  Speaker 1: the anniversary one year anniversary of when Jeheem White went crazy? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had two hundred. He had over two Hundred's
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  Speaker 2: best best game ever. Do you remember when we had
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  Speaker 2: him here and Keith Tandy came up and they threw
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  Speaker 2: that ball down the line of scrimmage to DJ Woods
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  Speaker 2: on a bubble screen and he basically snapped both of
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  Speaker 2: his shins took him out of the game.
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  Speaker 1: You remember that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I do. Oh, dude, one of
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  Speaker 2: the one of the great hits in stadium history at
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  Speaker 2: Mountaineerfield ranks up there with David Mayfield on Marvin Graves.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely does it just happened to see it? I was
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  Speaker 2: over the building yesterday. And you know Blaine Stewart, right, sure,
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  Speaker 2: So Blaine obviously grew up in it, and and we
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  Speaker 2: were we were just we were brother. I've come to
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  Speaker 2: find this about Blaine, like he.
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  Speaker 1: Remembers everything, by the way, remember but also one added
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  Speaker 1: edition has the video of it on a second notice.
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  Speaker 2: On the seconds he goes, he goes TC he said,
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  Speaker 2: you remember that, you remember Tandy on Woods?
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  Speaker 1: I said, ah, And he.
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  Speaker 2: Goes like here, watch and he goes he's on his
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  Speaker 2: he's at his desk and he puts it up onto
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  Speaker 2: the under his thing and instantly so they threw it
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  Speaker 2: toward the Mountaineers side, very early in the game. All
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  Speaker 2: week long. We had tell it DJ wats dj ws
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  Speaker 2: dj it. He was really really good. Gotta stop and
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  Speaker 2: gotta stop him. They throw that bubble screen down last
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  Speaker 2: scrimmage and he got bad blocking and Keith Tandy, who
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  Speaker 2: turned out to be a great.
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  Speaker 3: So he came in blowed it up.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta go find We'll gotta go find it, and
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  Speaker 2: I want to see it. I'll find it. I'll send
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  Speaker 2: it to Mary Margaret over there and maybe we can
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  Speaker 2: play it before the show's over. Took his shins out.
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  Speaker 2: He never got back on field. Wow, that was it
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  Speaker 2: done for the day year Castiel was the d C.
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  Speaker 1: I have to look it up. I'll look it up anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So well, anyway point point being when rivals. I'm
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  Speaker 3: glad I've said this spot. I'm I'm really glad Cincinnati's
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  Speaker 3: back in the league. Yes, I like this rivalry, this opponent.
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  Speaker 3: I like Westerninia being able to go over to Nippert.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in on this. I'll you in on this.
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  Speaker 2: Would you care to offer any pre so this is
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  Speaker 2: before you go into spreads on steps. Do you have
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  Speaker 2: any opening.
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  Speaker 1: Thoughts on basketball or you want to just what do
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  Speaker 1: you want to do?
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  Speaker 3: Let's do football first, then we'll go to basketball. Because well, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you an opening thought on basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Here it is. I'm watching it. Oh is you
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  Speaker 1: find it that easy? Yeah? Okay, watch this. I want
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  Speaker 1: to see his reaction when he watches it. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: Send it to Magasine. We'll get it up there, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I'll send it. Yes, do you got to read?
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  Speaker 1: You have an email? Hey Mary Margaret, We're gonna send
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  Speaker 1: this to you. Play it whenever you get it. Just
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  Speaker 1: text us when you have. Oh my goodness, what's your saw?
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  Speaker 3: The basketball side of things, I'm excited for this one
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  Speaker 3: because I think this is a nice test for West
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  Speaker 3: Virginia one, which we'll talk about. Two. There's been some
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  Speaker 3: fun games against UMass, and I'm not just talking about
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  Speaker 3: the old school days. How about that NIT game against
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  Speaker 3: them here. That was a that was one of those.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked about it before in this context, that's one
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  Speaker 3: of the great underrated games in Mountaineer basketball history.
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  Speaker 1: I think right that ran up there in North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: State n IT game in Raleigh.
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  Speaker 3: I totally agree. It was fun. They were mouthy and talked,
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  Speaker 3: and that crowd was into it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Frank Young had about a billion threes. Yeah, just took
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  Speaker 3: the team on its back and said, I was all right,
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: you want to keep talking, I'm just going to keep
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  Speaker 3: drolling threes right in your eye. How do you like us? Now?
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  Speaker 3: So I'm excited for this game. I think this is fun.
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  Speaker 3: This is a This a good UMass team that if
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  Speaker 3: you've mentioned Tony in particular a couple of times, how
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  Speaker 3: physical they were with West Virginia last year kind of
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  Speaker 3: pushed West Virginia around, and big boy in them a
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  Speaker 3: little bit at times in West Virginia. Now with a
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  Speaker 3: chance to come back and get a nice test here
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  Speaker 3: for early in the season, after the great opener against
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  Speaker 3: Robert Morris, there's my oping statement.
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  Speaker 1: What's it?
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  Speaker 3: Can't help themse off? Now he's sidetracked by the hit.
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  Speaker 3: That was a monster hit.
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  Speaker 1: Gosh, is he available? Can we Tandy available?
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  Speaker 2: Tandy's from right in that area, He's from not too
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  Speaker 2: far around that.
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  Speaker 1: He's in that general metrical player. Woods is well, right
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  Speaker 1: now you see that video, Woods is winding his watch
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  Speaker 1: because he didn't know where he was. Yeah, it took
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  Speaker 1: a shot. It took a shot. That was a hit.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll legit. Yeah it was clean, clean, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was clean.
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  Speaker 2: That's why Keith Tann he played a lot of years
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  Speaker 2: in the National Football Like, say, there's the difference. People
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  Speaker 2: always ask like, okay, so, like what this guy in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL has got like a again.
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  Speaker 1: And he was a heck of he was a high
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  Speaker 1: school quarterback. Yeah, Tandy was a great high school quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And then he comes here and converts to defense and
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: has this great go ahead. I'm sorry, and I'm just
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: gonna say, like those are why you got When guys
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: make plays like that in the course of a game,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: like make a note, those are the guys that are,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: guess what, really good.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Those are the guys that are really good. And guess what,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: unless you make those plays, you don't go into the
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: National Football League. It's like if you never make a
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: play like that or plays like that.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: It's fine.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: The more guys that you have that make more plays
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: like that, the better year. It helps. You know.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: What stands out there too, is rad when you watch
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the NFL and they throw a little swing pass out there,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: there's a defender there right away right closing speed, closing
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: and you watch watch really good college teams closing speed.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, Tandy, that's what you sold there.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Great closing speed. The other thing you watch it and
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: I get because the you just simply will be cut.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: There's no other way to stay at the NFL. But
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: you rarely see guys loafing in the NFL, though sometimes
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: in the last few weeks of the season on bad
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: teams you get some guys making business decisions and won't
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: stick their face in there. You see in college football
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: all the time. The first couple of weeks you go
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: back and watch stuff, You're like, what what is that
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: guy doing? Go hard?
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, how much tape do we watch? And you'd be
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: stunned if we brought up tape and watch guys loafing
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: that they kind of like pretend that they're going to
• 16:58
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• 17:03
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• 17:04
  Speaker 3: More, guys. You have to go hard, the better you are.
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  Speaker 3: Let's start with what Hoppy started with, because I think
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: that's the story of this game, hop at least in
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: the beginning. Defensively for West Virginia. What are you going
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: to get different, if anything, with the change in defensive
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: coordinator we talked on the last episode. Does this Does
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: this shake the locker room up enough that they say, Okay,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I got to dial in a little bit more of
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: these next nine days from the time the change is made,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I've got to button this up. I own some of
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: that as well. Or does it It wasn't me my fault.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I mean I know what he's doing. One. So, what
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: do you get from a player standpoint? What do you
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: get from a Jeff Khons communication standpoint? What did they
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: switch if anything?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: This week?
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Are their tweaks? Do they dial up more pressure than
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: they've done in the past. So just a lot of
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: interesting questions that come about with the defensive side of things.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Let's look at some numbers from this West Virginia defense,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: because it's one of those guys where it's just baffling
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: how good it has been against the run. That's right,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I said, this defense has been really good at something
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: versus how poorly they have defended the pass. First, the
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: pass and let's use EPA for a minute. I use
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: that a lot on here. Expected points added really just
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: a way to look at plays that were very successful
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: for the offense. Okay, so West Virginia's opponents, or take
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: it from a westernion defensive standpoint total EPA versus the
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: pass for West Virginia's defense dead last in the country
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: at one thirty four ouch, EPA per play one thirty third,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: second to last in the country, EPA per game one
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: thirty four, last in the country, and overall success rate
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: for West Virginia's defense against the past one twentieth.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: It's a wonder you've won four games.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that so that's one of those we always say,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: we say a lot on here. The numbers kind of
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: back up what your eyes are telling you. There's some
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: that's some really horrific numbers against the pass side of
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: things for West Virginia, which, again, if you're listening to
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: this program, you probably already know that.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: You want to know the good news about those numbers.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say, go ahead, can't get worse,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: and you do. So there's only one place to go.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Man can't go down there.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: That's and so that's why you look at this and say, okay,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: what what happens? Is there an improvement this week? Now,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: let's look at the numbers against the run, because these
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: have been in stark contrast. Total EPA for West Virginia's
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: run defense twenty third nationally. Total EPA or EPA per
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: play twenty second nationally. EPA per game twenty third nationally.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: And how about this one success rate against the run
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: fourth nationally. So you look in one wonder why you're
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: a couple games off where you should be. You don't
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: have to go far right, even with the offense not
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: being as dominant as it was last year, the past
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: defense has been that area that's really hurts you.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Go.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Defense numbers are really good fourth nationally, and success rate
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: for your opponent.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: If you were seventieth in past defense, just seventieth, Yeah,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: you'd have two more wins. Yes, probably right.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: You definitely have one more definitely everyone. Yeah, that Iowa
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: State game would have been different. Yeah, yeah, or had
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: a chance to be different. I shouldn'tay would be different,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: had chance. So this surprised me a little bit how
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: balanced this was. Opposing offenses are throwing it on average
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: thirty plays per game against West Virginia running at thirty
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: two times. It's a little bit of a surprise there
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: as well as West Virginia's against the rent. So here
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: that's the matchup hop West Virginia's past defense. Can it
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: get a little bit better against the Cincinnati offense. You
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: mentioned Brendan Sorsby, who's had a really nice year, the
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Indiana transfer who can throw it. He'll also tuck it
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: and run it in high leverage situations, especially around the
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: goal line, but he can throw it really well. Cincinnata's
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: offense ninth nationally and success rate. So there's what you're
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: looking at, ninth nationally and passing success rate for Cincinnati
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: going against a success rate defense against the pass in
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: the one twenties. What happens with that? If those numbers
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: stay pretty similar, West Virginia's going to have some problems
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: on the defensive side again, Can that get any better?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Here's the one area. Here's the one area. There's a
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: lot of areas on the pass defense. We know it
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: needs to be cleaned up at the middle, the second
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: level and the defensive backs. We also need to know
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: somebody's got to generate a pass rush. You've got to
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: get in there and make that sores Bey move around
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: be uncomfortable. You haven't seen a lot of that. But
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: here's the one area, guys. Can West Virginia eliminate what
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: feels like two to three big hot pass plays per game?
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Right as much as Kansas State nickeled and dimes you
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: down the floor, there were still the big plays down
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: the field. And it happens every game hops and you
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: just wonder where this team would be. Would it have
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: another win or two if you just eliminated that. Never
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: mind the other stuff, not saying you have to be
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: top twenty against the pass, just eliminate those giants place.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Here's the number that backs that up. West Virginia is
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: last among Power four teams in forty yard pass plays
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: given up. Last among Power four, there's only two FBS
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: teams that have given up more forty yard pass plays
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: out of one hundred and thirty four teams. There's only
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: two that have given up. More So, the big play
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: has been an absolute killer for this West Virginia team.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: There's pass defense that's a little bit of obvious. That's
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: coupled with some numbers, coupled with some things you've already
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: seen back down by numbers.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: But Brad, we have the benefit of now eight games.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, now that's what you are. You know, it's
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: not like two games in. You're eight games in and
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. And so now can you
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: be any better at all?
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: So that's why the change is of some interest because
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: if there was no change and you just kept doing it,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: so I think you would say, right, that's in your DNA.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Now that's just what you do. Does the change change
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: any of that or is it still just your DNA?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: That's the biggest question going into this game. One opposing
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: player to watch out for.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: You.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: We mentioned Soresby, you mentioned Kiner, and that's not to
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: overlook those guys because they're both fantastic. But how about
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: tight end Joe Royer Ohio State transfer. Listen to some
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: of these numbers. One of the best tight ends in
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: the Big twelve. They're gonna line him up at slot
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: and just in the traditional tight end spot. They'll do
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: both of those. He leads Big Twelve tight ends in
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: first down catches from the slot. Cole Taylor's fourth in
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: that category. By the way, seventy five percent of Royer's
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: catches have been for first downs. Is that good?
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: It's extremely good?
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Is that an important part of it? Here's two other
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: stats related to roy Are you ready hop Yes, West
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Virginia has given up the second most receiving yards in
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: the Big Twelve on seam routes to receivers lined up
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: at tight end or in the slot. You say that again, Sure,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: West Virginia's given up the second most receiving yards in
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: the league on seam routes to receivers that are lined
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: up either at tight end or in the slot, which
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: is where you'll see Royer in both those spots. So
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the slot's been a problem.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You think Royer has been walking around this week on
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: campus like with a big smile on his face.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I think he probably says, give me the ball, yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: and then that's West Virginia's job to stop him. So
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: this past defense such a critical part of this game.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Royer's a key part. Now, they have a couple of
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: receivers that have been very good to Xavier Hutchinson has
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: been very good, but look out for Royer. That stat
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: jumped out to me as one that certainly Cincinnati sees
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: West Virginia's struggles with that playdown. The slot hasn't always
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: been a tight end. That's why you say it's been
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: the receiver lined up in that slot or at the
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: tight end position. Here's one more concerning stat. No team
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: has given up more receiving touchdowns to tight ends than
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: West Virginia. So something to watch watch Royer. Watch his
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: impact on this game.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So when it's third and seven, put about four guys
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: on Royer might.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Need to Yeah, all right, so there's defense thoughts.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's really good intel. And it tells
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: you that they got some weapons and that in an
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: area where West Virginia has been vulnerable. That's your biggest concern,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: right correct, All.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Right, let's flip over to West Virginia's offense and let's
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: go under the assumption that Nico is going to get
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: the start again.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Ok. Okay, hoppy, it's a done deal.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: We're going with NiCoT starting quarterback position, and let's discuss
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: this so a what a change in performance for him
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: in particular, and we heard all off season about how
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: he had improved, and you could see it in small doses.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: It seems like he's picked up some miles per hour
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: on his fastball. I think right when he throws it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: That slant's been really good in particular. But he went
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: from a career fifty three to fifty four percent passer
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: to eighty two percent in that Arizona game. What a
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: massive change that was. Talk about what West Virginia's offense
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: did last year that it was able to do against Arizona. Finally,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: keep the chains moving. You completed passes and you didn't
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: turn it over.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: The two best things that Nico did in that particular
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: game his yards per attempt. We talked a lot about
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: that before the Arizona game. Nico down near the bottom
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: of the big twelve in each game he's played in
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: yards per attempt. They didn't stretch the field, they didn't
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: push the ball down the field. I'm sure that's in
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: an effort to try and keep mistakes to a minimum
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: for a guy that hadn't played a whole lot well
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: against Arizona.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: What they do.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: They changed that approach. They opened it up a little bit,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: started pushing it down the field and that yards per
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: attempt went from four and a half to nine, super
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: respectable yards for attempt with a couple of big plays
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: mixed in there. And he was throwing it extremely well.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Guys were catching it and making plays as that help.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: By the way, Yeah, guys have to help the quarterback.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: That might be nice. Yeah, So they did so that
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: was really good. And again we mentioned the zero picks.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: That's just critical for this offense when it does not
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: turn it over. You saw it again. New plays were added,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: new formations were added. As long as they don't turn
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: it over and keep going, then the offense can get
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: some more diversity into it. Now, what you give up
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: and we know this is some rushing ability from the
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: quarterback position. Can Niko run it? Yes? Is he as
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: dynamic as scrambler as Garrett Green? No, some numbers when
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: it comes to EPA. Back to EPA again, when it
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: comes to expected points added per rush, how about this,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Garrett is the best on this team by four x.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: His EPA per rush is almost four times better than
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: anybody else on the roster, so pretty significant. When Garrett's out,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: you're not just losing your starting quarterback, you're losing your
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: best rusher, your most dynamic rusher, your best big play
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: guy running the football. So that's something to keep in mind. Now,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: can you make up for that hobby with an improved
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: passing game with more accuracy from the pass game? Which
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you did at Arizona? Right, You overcame the lack of
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: big play scramble ability and you traded that for a
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: more efficient pass game. You're obviously going to have to
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: do that again if you want to try and get
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: a win. But you're going to need some rushing help.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: The Cincinnati defense with its new three three five has
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: been vulnerable to the run. They can give up some
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: yards on the ground. So this is also a game
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: we're throw it, but have CJ and Jaheen bust some
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: out too.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: The running backs. When Saturday is over and nighttime falls
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: and the sun goes to sleep, okay, right about five
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: whatever it is, five o'clock hour, this game will be
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: over about three point thirty in the afternoon. If when
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the sun goes down on Saturday on Knippert Stadium. We're
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: not saying that either or both.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: CJ.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Donaldson and Jaheim White had big games in West Virginia.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Probably doesn't win define big Oh, you have to have
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a one hundred plus yard rusher and the other one
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: has to have between fifty to seventy five.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: You gotta run the football.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I agree with that. You're gonna have to have success.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: So here's some numbers for the Cincinnati defense. They've given
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: up the six most rushing yards in the Big Twelve.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: They're one hundred and ninth in success rate against the run,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: so you've had success. But here's where it's interesting, and
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I'll give them credit for this. One hundred and ninth
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: against success rate is not good out of one hundred
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: and thirty four, but some of their expected points added
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: numbers are pretty good. They have the fewest run stuffs
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: in the Big twelve as well, so they haven't been
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: people at the line of scrimmage or behind. So you're
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: getting positive yards when you run fourteenth in the Big twelve,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: and yards after contact per attempt, so they're you're hitting
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: them and breaking through for some more yards. But the
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: reason they've still had success in spite of those numbers,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: they've forced and recovered the most fumbles in the Big twelve.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: The turnovers matter, Yeah, they do. They have the lowest
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: boom percentage in the league. That's courtesy of our friends
• 30:26
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• 30:29
  Speaker 3: knew that.
• 30:29
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• 30:31
  Speaker 2: these different sources that use you're always given like where
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: they watch or why do you always give them?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I give us pff, we give credit to Game on
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• 30:38
  Speaker 1: There's something else there, like are they doing they have
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: great deep stuff you got like swag at home that
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: they're sending to you or what do you think it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Is lowest boom percentage in the league versus the run
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: so hot, that's the percent of rushes that result in
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: a very successful play for the offense. They have the
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: lowest boom percentage. So you can get yards, but you
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: haven't got big plays against them, and then generally some
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: he's fumbled.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: When the essence of ben but don't break.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Correct And it's a good strategy, right, If you're going
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: to give up yards, how do you get off the field? Yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: turnover limit big plays and force turnovers. Yeah, sure, that's
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: what they've done. So the passing numbers for this Cincinnati defense.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Their EPA numbers against the pass aren't very good. They're
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: in the nineties. Pro Football Focus, however, does like their
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: pass rush and their coverage units fifth in the league
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: and pass rush fourth in coverage gage great in the
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Big twelve, but the advanced metrics tell you should have
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: some success throwing it against them as well. So we'll
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: see if the numbers play themselves out this week.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: What's the gambling line been doing?
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Moving in Cincinnati's favor? It's up to minus five. Why
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Home West Virginia's defense struggling. We've gotten rid of a
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, You've got a backup quarterback playing, so some
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: things in Cincinnata's favor.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, good job, so you go, yeah, well done.
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  Speaker 2: You want to tell you what, Go to the bench,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: You take a breath, get yourself a drink, and get
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  Speaker 2: ready for basketball.
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  Speaker 2: let me tell you this, Eventually, it's going to get cold.
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  Speaker 1: I mean maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I mean eventually it will get cold at some point.
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  Speaker 3: Mark or Michael here in Morgantown at the story. They'll
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  Speaker 3: help you very.
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  Speaker 1: Helpful Oh, do you just name drop some guy? Now?
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: You know the guys.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very helpful. I told that that first time
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I went in there. We know, whenever gonna yelled, when
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: you're yelled, did uh? Margaret Ann gets the get the
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Tandy hit?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got it. You want to do it right now.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I've been looking basketball for we got it.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I listen, I've been looking at Hoppy on the monitor
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: during the whole show. Hey, Maggie, can you cut to him?
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I've been looking at that shot. I'm going like, why
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: does it look different? Why does it look different? Because
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: they left the light on behind him that they used
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: for election night. That's where you had your little American
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: flag back there. But I kept looking at you. I
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: didn't like if you had become a clairvoyant. Looked like
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: a veil of light over you, like a man with
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: a prophecy. It's like I'm being deposed.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: It won't be a first time, all right, All right, Mary,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: So here is the here's the hit, West Virginia Cincinnati
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: in Morgantown many years ago and Keith Tandy against DJ Woods,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: who was a really really good receiver for those dudes.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Please roll the audio of your screen, bottom of your screen.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: So you see early on in the contest, out of
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the shotgun formation, they're gonna go with a bubble screen.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: You got these two blockers and it's gonna be on.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: So here we go. Watch Keith Tandy come flying up throw.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Who's so? I see Stu clapping. Let's play that one
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: more time. There's another coach that goes hands up before
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: the hits even delivered.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Can we run that being video again, please, Mary Margaret.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: So here we go.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Where is Tandy is? He's he's coming? So there is
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: right there, there is right, he's just.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: There's a coach at the twenty seven here that goes
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: hands up quickly.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Here comes.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Stu was on it early too.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: It t sod gave you an harm up before that
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: was and then there if you continue to watch that,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: they had a teammate walk him over to the sideline.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: He was just he's probably all right now, all right,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: so let's hope he is. So.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: So let's now begin our basketball preview. Now just one
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: game as a sample size for both teams.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Small sample.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Right, they beat the New Hampshires. The Umasses beat the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: New Hampshire.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: He's ranked three point thirty three by Ken Palm.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Now that means they're not good.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: They're down the last speaking of basketball last night, Yeah,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Columbia beats Villanova. They did at Villanova.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that ain't even going real well.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: That ain't going real well. Anyway, what was the biggest
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: insight you're taking away from tomorrow's contest?
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Let's dive into some Let's do a scouting report. How
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: about we do it that way?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Good?
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Ready, we got scouting report on the minute men. We'll
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: talk about a couple of their players too, then we
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: can talk about the West Virginia side. So you mentioned
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: U Mass opens against New Hampshire, won by thirty. They
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: got nearly sixty percent of their points in the paint,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: up from about an average of forty eight percent in
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: the paint last year. So they were getting to the basket,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: got to the rim for thirty shot attempts, where they
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: shot eighty seven percent at the rim. They were very
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: good in transition, so they got out and ran a
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: little bit. So that'll be something to watch in the
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: game coming Friday night. They're very effective one point five
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: points per possession in transition. Very good again overall offense.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: The team that will lead the country this year Hoppy
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: in points per possession and overall offense will be about
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: one point one points per possession. To give you a
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: contextual point there, so very good when they got out
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: and run. Now, they didn't shoot a ton of threes
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: last year. Didn't shoot a ton of threes last year.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: That's up this year against small sample size, and we'll
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: get to why here in just a second, but up
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: about eleven percent from last year. And three point attempt rate,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: where last season this U. Mass group was in the
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: lower third in college basketball in three point attemp rate.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: You're going to see some more threes in the coliseum
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: coming up on Friday. How about this? This kind of
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: jumped out to me. Fifty six percent of U. Mass's
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: shots against New Hampshire, fifty six percent came from only
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: two spots on the floor. We can accuse me at
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: the rim or top of the three keys. Twenty five
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: of their thirty five three point attempts came from the
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: top of the key in the left wing.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, the one old boys shot sixteen of them.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: We're going to get to him. They shot it well
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: from the top of the key. Fifty percent did not
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: shoot well from the left wing three of eleven, just
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: twenty seven percent. So keep an eye on this, all right,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: this is something to watch. This will be this will
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: be something for you to keep your eye on. During
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: the game, u Mass against New Hampshire made some guarded
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: catch and shoot three six of sixteen on those catching
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: shoots where they were defined as being guarded thirty eight percent,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: so pretty good. But just four of eleven on unguarded
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: that does make sense. Missed some open shots. Players to watch,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: and this is what you're referring to. Rasul Diggins. He
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: was the eight tens most improved player last season. He
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: came out and popped in eight trays against New Hampshire.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Hopey put up eight, made eight, didn't put up eight.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: He only took one shot that wasn't a three.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Took sixteen threes. Excuse me, he took sixteen threes.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Forty one percent of his shot attempts were from the
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: top of the key three. So push him off that spot.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: You know, you think Sincere Harris might be going over
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the screen.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I think Sincere probably got this same scouting report that
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I'm reading right now and said, okay, I go watch
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: him coming off the screen.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, So if you're going to the game, watching
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the game, whatever you're doing, so the matchup is going
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to be Sincere Harris against this cat, and so you'll
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: see Sincere just basically glued to him. See how he.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Does six of eleven, so he Diggins was also pretty
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: good from the right wing three. He took another twenty
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: four percent of his shots in there, so he's six
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: to eleven from just those two spots. Six of his
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: eight makes were from the top or just the right wing.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I would think you're going to see Sincere
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: draw him for a lot of games. kJ Tenner might
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: come in and get a little action on on Russeul
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Duggins Diggins. But they also have another point guard that
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: had a heck of a game. How about Jalen Curry.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: He was an a ten All Rookie team member last year.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Hop this is pretty good. Twelve assists, no turnovers against
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: New Hampshire.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So a lot of times we've seen the first game,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: we saw first two games, I should say exhibition. In
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: the first game, Harris take the point guard to try
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: and eliminate the starting of the offense. So that could
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: be an option too for Harris to get on Curry,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: make sure there's no distribution. My guess would be start
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: him on Diggins to try and eliminate one of their
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: big scores. So those are a couple guys to watch.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: They have some good size. They'll bring multiple six ten,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: six to eleven guys at you, So that'll be something.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: West Virginia and Ammani Hansbury gonna have to draw that
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: big out, hit some threes, open up that passing lane.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: But this will be a nice, nice match. I'm going
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: to say this every basketball preview, officiating style is going
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: to be important, and it's really going to matter. These
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: are two teams that want to be physical, or at
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: least UMass did last year. It's in Frank Martin's DNA
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: to have physical teams that fight through screens as well.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: So this is one of those guys. Either you're going
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: to have absolute brutality on both sides, or you're going
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: to have a parade to the free throw line.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I think they let him play. I tend to agree
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: with you. Here's why.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: They know that Frank Martin wants to play physical, and
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: they also realize if they get in here and start
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: blowing the horn on every single thing for your what
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: you just said, it's just like they don't want that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: No one wants that. Darren Devrees wants to play that
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: same way. He wants a physical game. He needs to
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: be able to bang. So I do I do think
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: that it will. It will be a blue collar contest.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Both of these teams did not get to the free
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: throw line very often in their first game. Low free
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: throw attempt rates here, So I think that's and we've
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: said many times, my default right now in most games
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: for Western India is going to be you want a
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: crew that lets it go because I think the physicality
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: on the defensive end is going to be important now
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: those games against Iowa State and Houston where they're they're
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: going to grab and clutch and hold you that that
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I may retract that statement, but I think for a
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: lot of the games this one included, I think you
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: want to let it go, you don't want to gain.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: For example, is watching Georgetown this morning, they're Tony doing
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: a little scouting on Georgetown that's coming out. They did
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: they struggle with Lee High. They called everything. I mean,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: they were looking at players and it was whistle. I'm
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: thinking I hope that current didn't come here for that game.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I want Wes Virginia to be to be allowed to
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: be physical.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I think I haven't seen the officiating assignments yet. You
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: know instantly, You just know instantly. So as you see
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: the names, you'll go like, good lord.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: They let it go the other night. That crew was
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: that crew let it go?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Job. Yeah, it was physical basketball. Let them basketball. So
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I always say, just let them basket if they're like,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: if they're both physical, yeah, then yeah, call it if
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: you need to. But other than that, yeah, there won't
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of Yeah, there won a lot of calls
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: in the Robert Morris game, right, No, not an unusual number.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: No, So there you go. There's the bulk of the stats. Again,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: those increased Who should win?
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: You should bring that West Virginia favor Ken Palm And
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: again those projections are tough though now because the numbers
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: are skewed and slanted. West Virginia projected by Ken Palm
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: as a eight point favorite at this.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Point be a good one to get in the hopper. Hopper,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: it would be this is a good test.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: It's a good test.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I like this game, and then next week it's just
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Pitt right, next Friday, correct, next Friday. So you gotta
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: you get to basically get a week and then you
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: go play at pitt.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Who's good? Who's good? Yeah? Okay, there you go. That's
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: good job. Yeah, well done, good job, young man. To
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: tell you what we're going to have you back for
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: future shows.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Well, basketball will get more in depth.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I was just.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: As the numbers mature, we'll get more sure down the weeds.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Let's do this three to one? What where is it?
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Three to one? Oh? This is the wrong one again?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: You didn't remember this one.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I didn't find the original. Where is this the original?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Three guys on tonight? I kind of like it. I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: just got all right, that's good, that's right. The words
• 43:34
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• 43:43
  Speaker 1: That's right. I just want want to do is win?
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I guess I want text that's good. Yeah.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I couldn't find the original because memories who who took
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: all the stuff off the desk?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Was that you?
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: It was needed. The desktop was a mess, so it
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: was needed. But I think you threw away the textual healing. Well,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I wonder I'm sorry.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I want to apologize, but the desktop had you couldn't
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: find anything because some people when they record something, they
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: just the desktop.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Some that use that microphone do do that. Yeah, that
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: is correct.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: So it's just so I took my time and tried
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: to put them into folders.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Very well intentioned.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you by you.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Now there might have been a little execution problem with
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: the Textual Healing.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Why why did that way you say that hoppy sound
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: exactly like what I hear at home, Because it's true.
• 44:43
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's I mean you never really it's never
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  Speaker 1: this is the originally thing in the folder. Here's I
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  Speaker 1: all right and put it on the desktop so you
• 45:12
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• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Here's what you need to know. Textual Healing brought to
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: you by episode eight Hunter dot Com. On Monday of
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  Speaker 2: this coming week, which would be the eleventh, we are
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  Speaker 2: going to post our Christmas items, including Mountaineer Mounch which
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: last year became It was a crazy surprise hit. It
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: became a global favorite and we shipped to forty three
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• 45:37
  Speaker 2: This mountainer munch was absolutely unbelievable. That had I had
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  Speaker 1: They just had.
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  Speaker 3: It was their number one seller though it was it
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: was very popular.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yes it was.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: We're trying to confirm whether there was forty three countries.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that future episode. You're saying it went
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  Speaker 2: to dimpesttar.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Kuda Beach. Here we go.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: H Texter says, I would like to share an interesting
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: story related to Tutors Biscuit World, along with an always
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: a West Virginia connection. My girlfriend at the time won
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: a trip for her work to Madrid, Spain. Been there, hoppy, Yes,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: And the trip was given from an advertising company to
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: the top CEOs of a number of different corporations as
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: a thank you gift. Arrive at the Hotel Madrid a
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: welcome dinner, immediately saw an older gentleman wearing a West
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Virginia state gold pin on his jacket. Lapel told my girlfriend, Oh,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: we're going to talk with the West Virginia guy. We
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: sit down, got to talking. Everyone at the table seemed
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: to know each other, ended it up. They were all
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: from West Virginia, of course they were. The guy with
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: the pin was none other than o'shell Crego. I know
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: os Crego, who said he was the CEO of Tutors
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  Speaker 2: Biscuits and Gino's Pizza.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Truly was absolutely.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Another person was a higher up at an internet company
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: and said they he knew my mom's best friend of course,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: who worked with their worked there. We ended up hanging
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: out with Oschal and his wife and his friend whenever
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: we could at the hotel. They were all so much fun.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: We shut the bar down one night. Oshall would never
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: let us pay for anything. I remember he even wrote
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: down some life and financial advice for me because I
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: was trying to soak up knowledge on his success and wisdom.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I've always wished that I'd run into him again one day.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Just goes to show always a West Virginia connection, even
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  Speaker 2: in Madrid, Spain. Signed by Aaron in Atlanta.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Former Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Oshill Craigil sure
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• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Texter says, Hey, three guys, the three guys biscuits that
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• 48:23
  Speaker 3: We'd all agree to that, right, yeah, Texter, I forgot to.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Send you guys this last week your topic when we
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: were talking about these private scrimmage games that teams played
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: before the season starts about filing out and they wouldn't
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: They just don't count files in these close scrimmages sometimes,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: he said, reminded me this. I just transferred to Ravenswood
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: High School playing summer basketball. I filed out with six files.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: About two minutes later, I was told by the coach
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: go back in, I said, Coach, I filed out, to
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: which he said, I don't give up plank. Just a
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: couple of minutes later, I got my seventh file. I
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: filed out for the second time. Yeah, that can happen.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Textor Hey, three guys, I had this pop up in
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: my Facebook memories. It's my little boy wyat and twenty
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: seventeen dressed up as Dana Holgerson for Halloween. I thought
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: i'd share it with you guys. Maybe our new baby
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: boy that you guys announced for us can be Neil
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: or coach Devrees next year. There he is holding a
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: red bull.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I think it is.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the advisor.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Dana got a new job he did this week where Nebraska,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Oh is an assistant man. What do you call these
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: advisors and advisor advisor? He's an advisor with advisor. Yeah,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I don't. Some people think he might become the offensive
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: coordinator there in the not too distant future. He can
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: call plays Texter.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Two things, the time change stinks in Big Candy does exist.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: On a recent trivia show I frequent, I frequently a
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: frequent asked a question, why was daylight savings time moved
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: from the last Sunday in October to the first Sunday
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: in November. That was back in twenty seven?
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Answer?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Big Candy. They lobbied that more daylight would equate to
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: safer tricker treating, so daylight savings was moved. More daylight
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: led to more trick or treaters, which led to increased
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: profit for Big Candy. Big Candy was a tony joke.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I did not see coming to fruition. But here we
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: are unrelated to Big Candy. I like what I've seen
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: from the fighting direeses so far. Here's hoping for a
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: season of exceeding expectations. Signed by Tyler and Daniels. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: think it was you that was you.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Don't get credit for that.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: That was really good. That was a big candy he
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: called it. He called it.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Tried to tell you all, Big Candy, did you.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Have a lot of You had probably a ton of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: trigger treaters, didn't tons uh. Texter rights as predicted too
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: as first reported, it works Texter. I went and did
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: my civic duty on Tuesday lined up voted anyway. I
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: was happy to see and complimented the lady at the
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: check in desk for wearing the always a West Virginia
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: connection for you guys. Sure, I'm not sure the Secretary
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: of State's office signed off on that, but she.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Made sure that I knew she also had a couple
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: of colors of efforting shirts at home, and that she
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: has seen Morgan from Morgantown earlier get around the payroll.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: She was spreading the good word of the podcast. Signed
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: by Eric from Oh That's Awesome, Cheat Lakes.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I wish that she had have been in there when
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I went to my early voting. Did not see her
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: in early voting, and she wasn't working at that moment.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: That's good, great job, thank you for the sport.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: I voted three times this election, and I didn't see
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: anyone wearing an effort. You know, don't even say that, Tony.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Don't say that, and people will like, oh my gosh,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: it was election fraud. It was joke.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Just just a joke. Hello, gentlemen. Logan from Greenboro County.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I celebrated the one year anniversary of my podcast show
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: on the third of November. I now have a co host,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: my friend Andrew from Princeton, and we have a blast
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: recording and planning our podcast. I would like to invite
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: you three to tune into an episode, and even if
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: you want to be a special guest, you're more than welcome.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: You guys were an inspiration for us to start. I'll
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: be at the women's game Friday fifteen, in the Baylor
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: game the sixteenth. I hope to see you guys at
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: the food court. Do you know what times those will be?
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys so much. Signed by Logan. There's this pod.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: He's got a he's got a logo podcast. Brad. What
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: is the starting time for the food court for the baylet.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: To be determined? Right?
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Is there? Is there going to be?
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Well? Now there is late in the year, the weather,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: there's always a concern.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's homeless homeless Dave say? By the way, there
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: was a lady that texted last time you weren't here,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: she said, you need to change homeless Dave's nickname. Okay,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: because she's encountered him on several occasions at the food court.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: She said the change should be to delightful Dave. Oh,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: it was a delightful person to talk with. He's absolutely delight.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: He's a wonderful man. It doesn't mean he's not homeless,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: but he's a wonderful guy. And we got we heard
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: fromhim this week. He was a forest fire.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: He's been all over, heavy travel back and forth.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: To New York, California. Well, heavy homeless population California. It's
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: all there. No, I don't think we're doing We're not
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: doing a food court over for the season.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Done, Yes, that's for sure.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh no, is it?
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I know we're not doing one for Baylor. Well that
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: would be next week. I mean we're probably done.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, had we known we would get summer weather
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: all through the season, it might have been different.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Texter.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Hello, here's an idea for this person has this person
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: has an idea to support NIL. Go to the West
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Virginia Lottery Commission. Have them create wv U lottery tickets.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: You win money, You win tickets to games and merchandise.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Two dollars a ticket in West Virginia gets twenty five percent.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: You take that twenty five percent you pay for your NIL.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Let's go wv Now, hoppy, you run around those halls
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: of the Capitol.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: How do you think that one would fly that would
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: not get past three o'clock For a couple of reasons.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Is it where the lottery money goes is predetermined by
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: a lowid diferent change all on number one and number two.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: If you did that at eight am, by ten am,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: every other school in the state would be saying, where's
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: my cut? You can't do it.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: That was first brought up about thirty years ago.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't do it. This comes up a lot Yeah,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: cannot do it. Texter Good. Now, now, now you could
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: take money that goes toward billboards to get people fired
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: or hired, and you could put that money into the
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: nil You could do that, Yeah, I guess you could.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Texter Good Podcast Tuesday. I missed Hoppy's expertise. Monday's game
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: was the first game I saw live. I am a
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: first time season ticket holder. I hope to see more
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: games with the Hustle. By the way, I heard there
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: was a seven footer from Iceland really thinking about joining
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Las Mountaineers, signed by Chuck from Lumberport.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: True. Yeah, Hunter said that yesterday, didn't they Bread? Yeah?
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I got go from Iceland.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, big kid from Recovec played a high school thirty
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: two icicles and seven rebounds a game. Pretty good player
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: I played in Greenwood came back to Iceland, he was.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: All Land team hunter impression.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Ever, let me tell you, if you ever been to Iceland,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: have you well, I'm through there.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I am planning a trip, are you, Yeah, And I'm
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: not flying there taking a Loop Wendell Marine pond too.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Me gonna take a Lou Wendell Marino lineup wherever I
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: have to put it in Nova Scotia, wherever I have
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: to put that thing in to get it started Scotia
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: because Lou Wendel Marine Sales is the premiere pontoon boat
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: dealer in our great.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: State of West Virginia.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: By the way, I got a text from a dude
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: that said, hey, man, when the leaves fall, my pond
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: tune goes in.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: That's what he said. Fair enough, However, you could still pond.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: It is super nice right now. Yeah, you thought the
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: seventy five degrees would still being played.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: So when the cold comes, right, you're gonna need to
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: get that boat serviced and ready for the off season
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: to get it back into the water next season. Plet's
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: get the ice breaker as get your icebreaker equipment. So
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: lou Wendel Marine Sales happens to be the premier pontoon
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: boat dealer in the state of West Virginia. You can
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: visit them at their location in Saint Albans or at
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: lou Wendellmarinesales dot com. Uh, they've been a lot of
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: fun to have on and again, this crazy West Virginia
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: connection stuff. I know a lady who grew up with
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: the avalon boat founders in Michigan.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, we met her.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know he doesn't just know right, we all
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: know her.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, we all know her. She's a marathon runner. We've
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: met her, We've talked to her around. Act like you're
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: the only one who knows the lou Wndel Marine person.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, this might be my last show. I'm just
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of taking this. I know. I we when
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: we were at the Three Guys tailgate, not the only one.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: It's called a food court, all right, So, lou Wndow
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Marine Pass, you know you were there so little just
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: because you went from Howard Hughes to freaking Bluto from
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Animal House.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Don't be coming on me, try to guilt me out.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I had fun there. I mean I got a few
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: things going on weekends. I mean, you do your little
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: coffee pie show in the morning from ten to noon,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: open show.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: How other people have things going on on the weekends.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Why do you think he's going when.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: That has second week We do eight hours, nine hours
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: eight nine hours of cover, which you're not familiar with,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: nine hours of coach. You show up about five minutes
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: before kickoff, do the game, then like get up there
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: you go, get walk out there you go again? Fake news?
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Look at this orange behind that? Yeah, Hoppy?
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: All right, here's one I need to counter Brad's counter arguments.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: We're double countery for Hoppy's Swiss cheese? Does it actually
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: make sense to have Hoppy's topping choice on every three
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: guys biscuit? Having a part time item would make those
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: three guys biscuit a much more authentic experience.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: So that's actually that's that's really good. Who was that
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: they signed?
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: That didn't sign it?
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: That's pretty good. It is so whatever it should be,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: should have one item of Hoppies choosing that they just
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: decide to put it on randomly. Gonna put Swiss cheese
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: on on this one? Sometimes this one doesn't have Swiss cheese.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: How about that. Yeah, that's a that's a really good idea.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: You know what I sign that's a tremendous idea.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: It's a great idea. Hey, Swiss cheese. It might not great. Hey,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: hop Brad and I go to the basketball games. I
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: know that you guys were dressed really nice. So okay,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: is that going to be a thing. What do you mean?
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I mean shirt and tie and jacket for all games?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Oh at home? Yeah, absolutely serious business. Absolutely on the
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: road jacket no, no jacket, shirt and tie, no quarter zips.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Similar when we go to Bahamas, it'll be golf shirts. Okay,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: but when we go on the road, regular season road,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: it'll be quarter zips or vest or or a vest.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Now do you get any Devrese stuff? Because you're so
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: close and DeVries is working the sideline there, do you
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: pick up any Devrese stuff? I picked up something that
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I thought was interesting Game one. I didn't pick it
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: up in the exhibition game, but he was probably doing
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: it then too. You know, the game has become so
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: mathematical and analytic based that he's the first guy that
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I see that absolutely studies the stat sheet right when
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: timeouts are complete. Really, they got this symphony they got
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Garrett the director of operations who played for him at Drake.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Now he's the dobo here, director of Basketball Operations dobo.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: So it's like a it's like a synchronized thing. So
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: they bring down stat sheets from the floor at timeouts.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Hand one off, Garrett gets it. He comes over, there's
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: an exact spot on the table at the corner of
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: the table. He picks up the statute from the last
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: media time out crumbles. He gives it a good crumble.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: To show there's no confusion immediately, and then.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: He gives it a pretty big slap down, like he'll
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: give it up. I'll give it up and lay it
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: down there and like within a matter of seconds, Uh,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: coach Devrees will will walk over just as before the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: ball is being put back into play and he will
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: absolutely give it a very very strong study. Okay, And
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: basically what he's looking at is, okay, where are we
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: and what I think the key metrics are in the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: game really and what needs to change because of that.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: That's it's just a normal statuteater, is it.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: It's no regular regular box. The live updated box.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: They bring down the box during every media timeout and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: then I'm sure, he's got guys on second row behind
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: him that are also keeping certain steps.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: What's going on with it? Because it's all new, Like
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: we don't know him, we're getting used to him too.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: What's what's he doing with players and player interaction and
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: for talk and those kinds of things. So what are
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: you picking up there?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Interesting couple things. It's early, so it'll change, but super
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: high energy. He told us last week. All of the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: assistants on the bench have free reign to make suggestions
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: because he says, there's so much going on, it doesn't
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: matter if four people are talking to me at once.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: He says, that doesn't bother me. Can I got a
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: great filter, which makes him a great husband. I think too, right,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: because my wife always says, like I get a lot
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: of stuff in note, I don't listen to anything, and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's what he also has.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: That she nailed it. Yeah, she hit that kind of accurate.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Kinda on the head. So he said, you can input
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: as much as you want. I need to know stuff.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: But what we've noticed about him is when he gets mad,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: when he gets hot, he goes the opposite of what
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: normally people do when they get mad. When people get mad, Like,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: for example, you use this studio from ten until noon,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: and I'll be up in my office like when you
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: lose your mind during a commercial break, like I can.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Hear it, yeah, and I hear yeah, I know it's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: on for you. He goes quiet.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: He does it the other way, like he's like fused
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: a fuse, would you say, Brad, He's kind of a
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: wick that gets lit and then he quietly goes to
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: the person and absolutely downloads on him with the same
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: intensity that you have when you scream, only it's more
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: more of a welder. He's more of a welder than
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: than a off explosion. Yeah, he's more of a very
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: really super hot flame, probably more effective, more effective, and.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Then it's over, Brad.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Would you concur Yeah, he not a lot of indecision
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: either when he goes into the timeout on what he's
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: drawn up, like it's down, here's what we got, who's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: in drawn based on what you say, control and command
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: to what's going on.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I think that's really cool to watch to pay attention
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: coming out of the timeouts, you know, and see what's
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: been trolling off.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah you're gonna you're gonna get some good shots. Yeah,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get some good shots.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: So, whether you're flying an airplane or coaching a team
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  Speaker 2: is to your point, the last thing you need to
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  Speaker 2: have is indecision. I always use the analogy of the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: silver haired captain of an airplane. Oh yeah, like been there,
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  Speaker 2: done that, seeing everything. So like when the plane's like
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  Speaker 2: getting rocked by a lot of heavy at what pilot
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  Speaker 2: just comes on and goes, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously we're in a little choppy air right here. You
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  Speaker 2: do it very best to get you back into some
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  Speaker 2: comfortable space and we'll be long. Just sit back and enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: You need that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And what I see with these guys is they
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  Speaker 2: like there's no indecision. They know exactly what it is
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  Speaker 2: that they want. There's no hey wait wait, like know
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  Speaker 2: what the.
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  Speaker 1: Guys and the guys are paying attention. They're locked in,
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  Speaker 1: locked in. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And him was like the other night, even when he
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  Speaker 3: put reserve in there, he doesn't back down, right, he
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: was still he was still coaching then and demanding that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: they do the things they're supposed to do, even in
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: a game that was already decided at that point. So
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  Speaker 3: there's there's no less.
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  Speaker 1: There those are coaching opportunities there.
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  Speaker 3: For those guys. I mean, that's as valuable minutes for
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: those guys getting in late as it was for the
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  Speaker 3: starters at the beginning of the game. And Darren treats
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  Speaker 3: that as such. It's not just oh hey, the other
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: guys are in.
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  Speaker 1: What I find to be very interesting is because we
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: went to so many practices in preseason, I think we
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: were we were given the opportunity to see the genesis
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: of his culture installed in other words, like everything is
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: you know, hunky dory to use a word from the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: nineteen thirties, before you really get it going. And then
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: there came this point. There came this point when it
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: got real that he just said, no, this is how
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: we're going to guard. And if you don't, then this
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: is what you're going to do. And we've talked about this,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: and just put him on the line. And if you
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: if you if you buy a pump fake, get on
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  Speaker 1: the line. The whole team's running. Oh really, if you don't,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: if you didn't yell out, if you didn't communicate, get
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  Speaker 1: on the line.
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  Speaker 3: Did it?
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  Speaker 1: But like it was in multiples, Like it wasn't every
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  Speaker 1: thirty seconds. It sometimes he would pack them. He'd pack them.
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  Speaker 3: We saw one day it was three in a row.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was no play was run. There were three pump
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  Speaker 3: fakes in a row that a guy went for and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: he'd just run run team never got shot off every time.
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  Speaker 3: So that it really that it's two things. One, it
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  Speaker 3: was the the consistency of the messaging, of the discipline
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  Speaker 3: of the disappint We're not going to just do this
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  Speaker 3: some of the time. When we say don't bite on
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  Speaker 3: the pump fake, come close out and stay down, we
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: mean that every single time. We're not going to let
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: it get away a little bit just because we're getting
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: ready to scrimmage or just because we're doing this. It's
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  Speaker 3: going to be every time. And then secondly, because of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: the style in which they play and the effort that
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: he demands, you had to be in shape too, so
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: that running had an ulterior motive. Had it served to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: get the guys in game shape as well for out
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: the throughout the couple of months leading in there. So
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: it really had two purposes. So was it do we
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: say it here? I can't remember from one. Was it
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: you all that said or I heard you all say
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: or whatever? That also they practiced with bad foul calls.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Is that you all, so you don't react, you don't
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: get all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Darren talked about that and a lot of the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: scrimmages early on before they had officials coming, he would
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: be the lead official and sometimes he just wouldn't call
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: it or sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so not react to not react when you get
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  Speaker 1: a bad Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think what he showed was and I
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: think he has to do this when he when he
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: takes a team over. There are certain things that are absolutely,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: in his opinion, non negotiation negotiable. And so here here
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: are non negotiables. And if you don't do that, like
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: you said, I mean, it's it's like building a house.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: If there's a little crack, little crack is gonna eventually
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: turn into a big hole, and he just he just
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: slammed it down from the very beginnings like these are
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: non negotiable every time, every single time. I mean, he
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: ran their ass off, really as as much as I've
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: ever seen a coach run really ever ever, And with consistency,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: that's what you have to do. And now I'm sure
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: that's lessened a tremendous amount because now they get it
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: and they go like, okay, I got it.
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  Speaker 3: You know the other thing hoppy that he's he does
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: his practice's clip. There's not a lot of standing around
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: and talking at practices. They move, especially the preseason practices.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: Well what as you as you look back on what
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: he was doing to now what they do? What's that
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: match matches? How they play? There's no standing around on defense,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: there's no standing around on offense. There's constant movement. So
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: you're back to the having to play your way into
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: shape and be in great condition to play in this program.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: I'd tell you just one game, but that Robert Morres
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: game because they'd run up and down a little bit
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: in West Virginia does. And the West Virginia plays the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: way they now played defensively is that man, you have
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: to be in superior shape. And when when there is
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: a stoppage, I mean, guys are just.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, can we get can we get you to a game? Yeah?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: I love to come. When was the last time you
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: wrote a game? Remember when Dyke Racy's team was did
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: you did you go to Drexel? I did not? Oh
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: you didn't make it to the DRECS. Coach Spiker had you?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Oh he did? I had something going on. Oh, you
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: were out of town. You went to Texas or something,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: So you will go to a game. Yeah, yeah, I
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: want to. I want to go to Brady said he
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: wants to go to some games. We'll take care of you.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: In fact, I might want to go to an away game. Oh,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: we'll get you in there. Get me in there. Sure,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: sitting next to between me and bred can I No, Okay,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: that'd be fun to have you there, all right.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: You got Okay, big news story out of three guys
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: today is that Hoppy is going to go a basketball game.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I just want to be But I like the entry.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I like I would like to be there, not because
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I want to be like on the radio, but I
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: just to hear what's going on. Man, I would like
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: to have that. I like to get that that texture. Well,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: you come to the road game, you'll have a better chance. Okay, Yeah,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: normally if I sit at the end of the bench,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I don't notice. No, just be a student manager. Just
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: put the T shirt, just put the golf shirt on,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: and you'll be fine. Just run out to every case.
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  Speaker 3: Student manager's hustle.
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  Speaker 1: Probably they have to.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about a group that gets gets
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: out on the floor quickly with any of those guys
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: are get after it.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Pit crew.
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  Speaker 3: It's great managers.
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