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Hutton & Withrow: Titans in Crisis: Cam Ward Under Fire, SEC Transfer Shakeup & NBA Bubble Bombshell | Hour 1 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: Out of the gates and on Sporting State, this is
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  Speaker 1: Hutton and Withrow. He's Chad Withrow. I'm Jonathan Hutton. We
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  Speaker 1: are presented by Hard Rock Bad. Chad, good morning to you, man.
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  Speaker 1: Hope things are well.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Hutton.
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  Speaker 3: I love Coach Derek Dooley, but listening to that again
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  Speaker 3: reminds me I've got to get some other people doing
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  Speaker 3: some intros. Every day it's a reminder as we start
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  Speaker 3: the show. Got to follow up with people that are
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  Speaker 3: also recording intros for us so we can freshen.
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  Speaker 2: That bad boy up.
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  Speaker 1: But I love you, Coach Dooley.
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  Speaker 2: I love that voice.
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  Speaker 3: I love that dose of humility every morning as we
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  Speaker 3: open the show.
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  Speaker 1: I think you'll appreciate this. Like I sent a couple
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  Speaker 1: out and I'm like, oh, wait, we actually want to
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  Speaker 1: do those on video.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We want to see, there's certain people we want to like,
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  Speaker 1: we absolutely want this on video. We've got to, I've
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  Speaker 1: got to start thinking about it through that manner instead
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  Speaker 1: of just the animation. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Didn't even think about the video part of it.
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  Speaker 3: So now I'm going to be following up with some
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  Speaker 3: different texts and some links to record themselves on video
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  Speaker 3: so we're going to take care of that but hey
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  Speaker 3: we've had a hell of a week here on the
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  Speaker 3: show yeah it's been great there's been a lot to
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  Speaker 3: talk about i feel like every day every week we
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  Speaker 3: arrive at a friday hutton and you kind of look
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  Speaker 3: back at the week and think what were the biggest
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  Speaker 3: stories that hit that we were talking about and it
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  Speaker 3: seems like every single day this week getting ready for
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  Speaker 3: the weekend it's been building and building like hurricane isaias
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  Speaker 3: isaias I finally found out how.
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  Speaker 2: To pronounce it. Isaias? Isaias. Isaias. Isaias. Let me say
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  Speaker 2: it again. Hurricane Isaias. Isaias. Okay, so it was what
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  Speaker 2: we thought. I watched the Weather.
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  Speaker 3: Channel yesterday and heard them say it over and over,
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  Speaker 3: and I practiced in the mirror before the show started,
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  Speaker 3: and I still can't pronounce it perfectly every time.
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  Speaker 2: Isaias.
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  Speaker 3: Hurricane Isaias is how you pronounce it. As it continues
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  Speaker 3: to build, our show has continued to build day after day,
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  Speaker 3: hour after hour, leading right here to us on a
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  Speaker 3: Friday morning, Hutton.
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  Speaker 2: I am jazzed up. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: I'm on cup of coffee number two already. Thank you,
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  Speaker 3: David Crockett Coffee, for your boost this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: Cup three turns into David Crockett.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Cup three, and I'm ready to defend the Alamo. That's
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  Speaker 3: how good this coffee is.
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  Speaker 2: It's official.
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  Speaker 1: It is sold at the Alamo, which is just fantastic. Chad,
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  Speaker 1: last night, Esaias was Jalen Daniels. Quarterback for the Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa. Here we go. Three weeks in a row now, Chad.
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  Speaker 1: The ultimate underdog has gone in on Thursday night and
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  Speaker 1: not just won, but whipped the opposing team.
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  Speaker 2: On the road, too.
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  Speaker 1: Because we had it three weeks ago. It was Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: and Green Bay. Last week was Cleveland and Pittsburgh. And
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  Speaker 1: last night, we see Tampa Bay coming in winless and
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  Speaker 1: winning with their backup quarterback in Dallas against a relatively
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  Speaker 1: healthy Cowboys team. Next week, I think we know which
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  Speaker 1: way we're playing that line at Hard Rock.
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  Speaker 3: These Thursday night games, I don't know if it's a
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  Speaker 3: total aberration for the season or if Jalen Daniels and
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  Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Bucs, after starting 0-4, are really going
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  Speaker 3: to get things going after that road win against Dallas
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  Speaker 3: last night, or we're going to look back and think, boy,
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  Speaker 3: these Thursday night games have some crazy outcomes that have
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  Speaker 3: nothing to do with the remainder of the season, but
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  Speaker 3: a horrible loss for the Dallas Cowboys. A great win
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  Speaker 3: with a backup quarterback on the road for Tampa Bay Hutton.
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  Speaker 3: But I just look at this more as a missed
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  Speaker 3: opportunity for Dallas to get above 500, collect what should
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  Speaker 3: have been a relative for the NFL, easy win at
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  Speaker 3: home against an 0-14 with a backup quarterback. And instead,
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  Speaker 3: you've got Cowboys employees trash-talking Dak Prescott as he leaves
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  Speaker 3: the field.
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  Speaker 2: And look, rightfully so. Rightfully so.
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  Speaker 1: Chad, this is exactly the way to handle, if you're
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  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, it's a good example for young quarterbacks on
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  Speaker 1: how to handle bad times, right? It's exactly what I
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  Speaker 1: would say Cam Ward, when you see Cam Ward struggling
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  Speaker 1: in Nashville, that's the way that you watch Dak Prescott
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  Speaker 1: and the media scrutiny. that the Cowboys are under all
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  Speaker 1: the time 24 7 it's like playing in New York
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  Speaker 1: right I would say even like the Cowboys website is
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  Speaker 1: more 50 50 on on coverage of that team than
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  Speaker 1: you would ever believe than the the the uh state
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  Speaker 1: run radio you know the state websites that are always
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  Speaker 1: going to cover themselves in a positive light Cowboys actually
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  Speaker 1: have columnists that are just go at you um There
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  Speaker 1: are lessons to be learned there. By the way, the
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  Speaker 1: next two Thursday nights, it's hard to really pick out
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  Speaker 1: the ultimate underdog. We've got Seahawks and Broncos next Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: And then we have Patriots-Bears. So, Al Michaels and Kirk
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  Speaker 1: Curbstreet are going to be just fine the next two Thursdays.
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  Speaker 2: But don't you agree?
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned all the stories we've covered this week. We
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  Speaker 1: covered the national media members saying that it was so
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  Speaker 1: hostile in Nashville.
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  Speaker 2: You want hostility here.
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  Speaker 3: You want to see hostility, Hutton? We have the video now.
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  Speaker 3: This is Dak Prescott as he's leaving his own field
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  Speaker 3: in Dallas, home game, after a home loss. And this
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  Speaker 3: is just some, I'm guessing, security personnel, loading dock person
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  Speaker 3: in the bowels of the stadium for the Cowboys. Here's
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  Speaker 3: what happened as he exits the field.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And Dak Prescott just stares. Hey, I give Dak
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  Speaker 2: Prescott a lot of credit here.
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  Speaker 3: One, I think a lesser, more hostile person in that
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  Speaker 3: setting would have probably run at the person and made
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  Speaker 3: it even more viral because it would have been on video.
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  Speaker 3: Would have said something bad. He just looked and stared like,
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  Speaker 3: are you going to say it again? Is that what
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  Speaker 3: you're saying to me? To whoever was trash talking him
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  Speaker 3: on the way off the field. Incredible restraint showed by
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  Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. He gets in the press conference, and I
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  Speaker 3: think it's a master class on how to handle disappointment.
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  Speaker 3: He was asked about it, and he said it was embarrassing.
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  Speaker 3: I was looking back thinking, well, the guy said it
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  Speaker 3: to my face. Is he going to say it again?
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  Speaker 3: He said it as I was walking by. I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to see that.
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  Speaker 2: But then he said, I'm embarrassed that this is even
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  Speaker 2: a thing.
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  Speaker 3: I wish that hadn't happened as I'm walking off the field,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm embarrassed that we're talking about this after an
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  Speaker 3: embarrassing performance. I thought he handled it with a lot
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  Speaker 3: of humility. a lot of class, exactly how you want
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  Speaker 3: a franchise quarterback to handle a situation like that. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I also think that whoever that employee was, it's probably
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  Speaker 3: pretty easy to figure out what employee down there may
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  Speaker 3: have said that to him as he's walking off the field.
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  Speaker 2: It might not have a job working.
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  Speaker 3: Inside the Dallas Cowboys stadium anymore, and I completely understand
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  Speaker 3: that too.
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  Speaker 2: Might be promoted. Might be a Jones family member for
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  Speaker 2: all I know. Could be. Could be a nephew. Of
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  Speaker 2: the Jones family that's just down there hanging out. Could be.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, that's to a quarterback who's won 85
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  Speaker 1: career games for the Cowboys. He's 85-58-1 now.
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  Speaker 2: After last night.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the postseason record is what it is, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not like it's three wins and 18 losses yet.
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  Speaker 2: Well, wins equals progress equals improvement.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So let's talk about another team in the state of Texas,
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  Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. that are coming to Nashville this weekend
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  Speaker 3: to take on the Tennessee Titans, two 0-4 teams.
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  Speaker 2: Hutton, we have heard so much about.
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  Speaker 3: It's obvious if you have two eyes that you can
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  Speaker 3: see the improvement of this team. It's obvious that you
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  Speaker 3: can see the progress in Cam Ward. It's obvious that
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  Speaker 3: you can see from week one throughout the season the
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  Speaker 3: team has gotten better. That is a very convenient argument
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  Speaker 3: when you lay a complete egg against a bad New
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  Speaker 3: York Jets team in week one. When you set the
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  Speaker 3: floor so low, we joked after week one, this is
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  Speaker 3: the floor, and we said they're building a basement.
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  Speaker 2: It was so low.
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  Speaker 3: It was below the floor of the house, the way
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  Speaker 3: they played against the New York Jets. It's very convenient
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  Speaker 3: to me to then say, boy, look at the improvement.
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  Speaker 3: We battled the Philadelphia Eagles the next week, and we
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  Speaker 3: are a dumb mistake by the quarterback away from winning
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  Speaker 3: the game against the Giants the next week. And then, boy,
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  Speaker 3: look at that comeback against the Ravens when they put
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  Speaker 3: their backup quarterback in and didn't score a point the
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  Speaker 3: entire second half. I think it's a very convenient argument
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  Speaker 3: when you set the floor so low the way the
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans did in that first game. And then, Hutton,
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  Speaker 3: speaking of state-run media, Titans Radio and Taylor Zarzer and
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  Speaker 3: that whole crew, they have set the bar. The Titans
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  Speaker 3: set the floor low in week one. They set the
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  Speaker 3: bar high for fluff, state-run media. Soviet-level media propaganda. And
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  Speaker 3: during whatever this show is that Robert Sala does every
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  Speaker 3: week with Taylor Zarzer, I don't know because I would
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  Speaker 3: never watch this thing, but I have seen this clip circulating.
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  Speaker 3: Robert Sala had a lot of great things to say
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  Speaker 3: about the 0-4 Houston Texans.
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  Speaker 4: Houston Texans coming to town, their 0-4 to start the season.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about this matchup?
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  Speaker 5: Might be the greatest 0-4 team in the history of football.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations, Houston Texans. A title no one has ever asked
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  Speaker 3: for or wanted, but you have received it. You are
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  Speaker 3: the greatest 0-4 team in NFL history.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I've done a couple of radio hits this week,
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  Speaker 1: and most recently our guy Dan Matthews down in Houston.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And he was asking me about this matchup, and I said, Dan, look,
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  Speaker 1: my perception here, and I mentioned, like, you may be
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  Speaker 1: leaning a different way on the show than I am
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  Speaker 1: on this game. But I said, the Texans are coming
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  Speaker 1: into this game looking to get right. This is their
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  Speaker 1: get right game. And I referenced a couple of other
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  Speaker 1: eras of the Titans recently. You had the Ken Wisenhunt era, right?
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  Speaker 1: Where it was so down, you were coming in to
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  Speaker 1: get right if you're the road team. And I referenced
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  Speaker 1: the Mike Vrabel era where there were some bad teams
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  Speaker 1: and the Titans were in some bad situations, but the
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  Speaker 1: coach outcoached the opponent and got the win. You know,
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  Speaker 1: how many times do we see that with the Titans
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo with Vrabel? Even that Tuesday night game during COVID.
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  Speaker 1: No business winning that game with everybody out due to
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  Speaker 1: COVID violations. And they won that game, Chad, on a
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday night, randomly. I don't see that in this group here.
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  Speaker 1: Houston comes to mind, too, because it was week two,
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  Speaker 1: one of these years. It was the game after the
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  Speaker 1: longest game in history. It was Vrabel's second game. And
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  Speaker 1: I tie this into Houston because that's where he came from.
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  Speaker 1: Vrabel's second game, his second game as head coach of
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  Speaker 1: the Titans. And they had Dane Cruikshank throw a touchdown
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  Speaker 1: pass in this game, in special teams. And I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: to myself, I don't see that with this game. The
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  Speaker 1: Texans come in as the greatest 0-4 team in history, tongue-in-cheek.
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  Speaker 1: They believe they should be. I mean, they started the
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  Speaker 1: last two seasons 0-3. They believe they should be a
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  Speaker 1: 2-2 team, a team that should be at the top
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  Speaker 1: of the AFC South right now. They should be trying
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  Speaker 1: to go to the deepest run in the playoffs that
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  Speaker 1: they have in their team history. This is where they
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  Speaker 1: get right and get things back on track. This is
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  Speaker 1: where D'Amico Ryans takes over as play caller. This is
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  Speaker 1: where they become the team that they talked about being
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  Speaker 1: in the preseason. Not the team they're talking about being
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  Speaker 1: in December. And I don't know if you have the
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  Speaker 1: same sentiment or not. I just don't get that vibe
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  Speaker 1: for the Titans. This is not a get-right game for
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  Speaker 1: the Titans the way I think it is for the Texans.
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  Speaker 2: With the backs against the.
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  Speaker 1: Wall, you can put the playoff hopes to bed immediately
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  Speaker 1: if you lose this game for either team. But I
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  Speaker 1: think we already know the playoff hopes for the Tennessee Titans.
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  Speaker 1: I think the expectation is that the Texans have a
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  Speaker 1: chance to still kick this into gear. The Titans are
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  Speaker 1: dead to rights. That's the mentality coming into this game.
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  Speaker 1: They can prove me wrong. But one game does not
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  Speaker 1: make up for the 0-4 start and all of this
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  Speaker 1: talk about wait until you see where we are at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the season.
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  Speaker 2: How about win some.
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  Speaker 1: Games right now with a revamped roster and money spent
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  Speaker 1: and start to click, especially on all things except for
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback. Let's talk about defensive line, pass rush, all that.
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  Speaker 1: Defense as well. There are other areas to this team
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  Speaker 1: that have not met the bar, just like the quarterback hasn't.
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  Speaker 3: You've got, during this week of this game, and I
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  Speaker 3: think what you said is very well laid out on everything.
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  Speaker 3: During the week of this game, you had Burke Nihill
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  Speaker 3: fire three high-ranking front office members in early October.
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  Speaker 2: And a coach that's preaching patience. A coach that's.
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  Speaker 3: Preaching patience in an organization that is selling you over
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  Speaker 3: and over on a rebrand in a new uniform scheme
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  Speaker 3: in a new stadium. And they fire the person that's
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  Speaker 3: in charge of the rebrand, which some would argue is
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  Speaker 3: the one successful thing that they've done in the last
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  Speaker 3: four years based on the putrid performance on the field.
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  Speaker 2: Of that organization.
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  Speaker 3: But they fire her. Let's fire Erin Swartz and get
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  Speaker 3: her out of here who's in charge of the rebrand.
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  Speaker 3: So that's one thing that happened this week. Another thing
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  Speaker 3: that happened is the person that fired the people that
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  Speaker 3: is the face and the voice of ownership is refusing
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  Speaker 3: to do an interview. and refusing to talk about it
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  Speaker 3: and refusing to hold a press conference.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So you've literally got sort of this Darth Vader slash
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  Speaker 3: Wizard of Oz figure in the Titans front office that's
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  Speaker 3: firing people and never taking accountability while the team during
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  Speaker 3: his tenure, and I'm talking about Burke Nihill, has been.
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  Speaker 2: A disaster on the field.
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  Speaker 3: Hurricane Isaias, I'm butchering it again, level disaster on the field.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. You've got all that going on.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a coach who's sitting there telling Taylor Czars
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  Speaker 3: they're already making excuses. Best 0-4 team in NFL history.
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  Speaker 3: That's who we're going to see on Sunday. So fans
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  Speaker 3: can't get mad about what happens here because we're facing
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  Speaker 3: the best 0-4 team in NFL history, which based on
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  Speaker 3: preseason expectations, no one expected the Texans to be here.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: Plenty of people probably thought, oh, there's a route for
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  Speaker 3: the Titans to be 0-4, even though they got a.
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  Speaker 2: Couple of very winnable games.
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  Speaker 3: Hutton, we said before week one, If there's ever a
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  Speaker 3: must-win game in the first game of a new head
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  Speaker 3: coach in week one, it's the Titans versus the Jets.
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  Speaker 3: Robert Sala against the supposedly terrible organization that fired him.
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  Speaker 3: The only reason he was unsuccessful there is because ownership
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  Speaker 3: medals and they're not competent.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just the Jets. It's J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets.
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  Speaker 2: which means losing, and no coach is going to succeed there.
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  Speaker 2: And now he's going to come into Nashville.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to prove it with a rising star quarterback
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  Speaker 3: in his second year, and it was a big old flop.
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  Speaker 3: That's the sound that you heard in week one where
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  Speaker 3: the Titans get really blown out.
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  Speaker 2: In NFL terms, they got blown out. Not in control
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  Speaker 2: of that game whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: They looked inept against the Jets. Set the floor very low.
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  Speaker 3: Have shown some improvements in final scores since then. But
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  Speaker 3: they lost to a bad Giants team with a backup quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: They lost to a Ravens team who played their backup
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  Speaker 3: quarterback the entire second half after they completely fell out
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  Speaker 3: of the game in the first half. This is not
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  Speaker 3: a good football team. Yet now we're getting more excuse-making beforehand.
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  Speaker 3: And call that what you want, coach talk, whatever. It
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  Speaker 3: is laying a baseline level of excuse-making for if the
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  Speaker 3: Titans lose this game. I'm going to go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: put expectations very clearly on this team. This is a
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  Speaker 3: must-win game. If you're going to show improvement, you don't
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  Speaker 3: fall to 0-5. You've got a home game against a
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  Speaker 3: team that's reeling, that has taken away play-calling responsibility from
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  Speaker 3: their defensive play caller.
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  Speaker 2: And the head coach is now doing it. This is
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  Speaker 2: at home against another winless team. If you don't win
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  Speaker 2: this game, when are you going to win? Is it Cleveland?
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  Speaker 2: In a couple of weeks, who's 3-1 right now?
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  Speaker 3: Are you looking at Washington and thinking, okay, going to
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  Speaker 3: get a backup quarterback there, but you're getting the return
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  Speaker 3: of Marcus Mariota? In all likelihood, in that game, coming
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  Speaker 3: back to Nashville, is that the game you're going to get?
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking up and down this schedule, and I know
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  Speaker 3: that crazy things happen. Because we saw the Titans win
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  Speaker 3: a game when DeMarcato fumbled the ball and threw it
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: into the end zone with a chance to win the game.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: So they've won games like that before, too. There's going
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: to be a win somewhere on this schedule. But I can't,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: with my two eyes, the Titans keep telling all the
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: fans to use to see all the progress that's happening
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: on the field. I can't, with my two eyes, look
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: at this schedule and tell you how the Titans are
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: going to win if they don't win on Sunday. I
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: know they're a touchdown underdog in this game, Hutton. This
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: is a must-win game for the Tennessee Titans. If they're
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: going to show the progress that they want to show,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: they've got to win a football game.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: This is the NFL. This is not a team. This
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: is not a coach taking.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Over a college program that's under NCAA sanctions that knew
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: going in they're going to get killed in every game
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: in year one before they can recruit their players. You
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: have a fully functioning roster. You have a general manager
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: who's brought these players in. You need to go win
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: an NFL game. And this weekend is a great opportunity
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: to do that.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: And I've yet to see a Titans team that is
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: more about this week than this season. That's the messaging
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: that flipped, Chad, in the preseason that we pointed out.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: It went from all gas, no brakes, which to me
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: is week to week, all gas, no brakes, every single play.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And it has flipped to we're getting better every week.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Why did that happen? Well, I think the writing was
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: on the wall. They realized what a climb this is
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: going to be. where they were roster-wise, where they were
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: versus who they're matched up with, and their quarterback situation,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and how they're treating this like a rookie season for
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward. Beyond all that, the staples that were lined
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: up to lead this team early on have not been there.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: So it's the defensive line. And this is one area
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: where you can't go back and say, oh, it's the
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: John Robinson, Rand Carthon picks.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: They have an extended Jeffrey Simmons, who Jeffrey Simmons, by
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the way, has been playing very well. He's being double teamed.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: And you have a second round pick on the defensive line.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: You have a first round pick from this year on
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the defensive line. You have two other guys that you
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: brought in from free agency this year. No production there.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Not much production there. And that's the group that they've
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: spent $ 98 million of new money on. That's the most
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: expensive group. Second most expensive defensive front in football. They've
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: got to do their gig. They've got to do their job.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Number two, must win of all the games that you
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: can circle. This is also as easy as It's against
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: an opponent that you know has ties to the organization
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and the ownership knows... I mean, if you know the Titans,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you know this is the game you've got to win
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: against the Texans. Now, the game in Houston I would
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: circle as a bigger game.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: But this game?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: This game lines up to get your season back on track.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Are the Titans capable of doing what the Tampa Bay
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Bucks just did in Dallas? I would argue no. I
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: would argue no. Winning in a resounding way to say
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: that team actually has the ingredients... of the expectations that
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: we had on them prior to the season versus right now.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Where were the.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Expectations of this Titans team, Chad, a month ago? Let's
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: go back a month and a half, two months ago.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Just that short amount of time. People in this market
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: are talking about six wins. I've heard people say ten wins.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, it's week-to-week improvement, season-to-season evaluation.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: That's just not how this works. And I'm sorry if
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: it's week-to-week improvement about how you play games. There have
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: been 18 games this season to feature a game-winning score
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: in the final three minutes of regulation.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: That's the NFL. That's the NFL. Every single game you.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Could go back and say, well, if we don't miss
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: this field goal, if we don't turn this football over,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: if we don't have this turnover on downs, every single
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: team can point to that. This is about execution and
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: about your playmakers stepping up and meeting the bar. And
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I just don't see that on a week-to-week basis, including
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: from the coaching staff.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: And if we're going to carry that Tampa Bay Buccaneers
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: comparison even further to a team that could show a
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: pulse even after going to 0-4, I certainly believe more
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: in the Houston Texans organization and D'Amico Ryans to show
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: a pulse after going 0-4 than what I've seen from
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: the Titans so far. I would also say they did
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: it with a backup quarterback. I think in Nashville your
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: backup quarterback probably gives you a better shot in this game.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: So that's the difference. I don't think Jalen Daniels is
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: better than Baker Mayfield. I'm not so sure right now
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: about Mitchell Trubisky and Cam Ward, especially given his knowledge
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: of this Brian Day ball offense in terms of what
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: gives your team a better shot to win NFL games.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying to.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Do that at this point because I can understand the
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: thought process of let's see more of Cam Ward. before
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: making a final call on him. But if we're just
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: talking about we're going to try to do something to
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: win a game, similar to what Josh Heupel did against Auburn.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: He wasn't thinking about Faison Brandon's feelings. He wasn't thinking
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: about ramifications next year or later this season.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: He was thinking about what can I do to win
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: this football game? This is a big game.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: It's an SEC game at home. We need to win,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: and we are sputtering offensively. So what can I do
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: to help win the football game? Put a new quarterback in.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: And the new quarterback got the job done, and they
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: won the game. If Robert Sala was thinking the same
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: way in a game, I think if you see Cam
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Ward making those consistent Cam Ward mistakes that we've seen throughout,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: whether it be just flippant play on the field, careless
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: plays with the football, being loose with it, those type
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: of things, when you see that, if you go to
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: the backup quarterback, that would be that type of decision.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think this is a coaching.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Staff right now that has the power to do something
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: like that, or that would do it based on what
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I've seen from these guys.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: And let's just say this too. It's also about, look
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: with what the Raiders are doing. Look at what the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Giants are doing. Coming out and showing a pulse. Maybe
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: they make the playoffs, maybe they don't, but it's about improvement.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: That's showing improvement. You know, like that, that's the improvement
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that you can point to the tangible improvement of this league.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Um, Wins count, losses count.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: And by the way, we have played the cuts from Brable,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: from Sala, when he said this earlier in the preseason,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: August 17th on Rich Eisen, when he said, ultimately, all
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: that other shit doesn't matter.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: That was his quote. Just talk.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: It's about wins and losses, and that's how you're defined.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: That's how we'll define this team. I'm not going to
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: define it in December. I'm going to week-to-week basis, all gaps,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: no breaks, record and loss. You know, wins and losses.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You've got 0-4 straight ahead. 0-4 is the record that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the Jets should have right now. And it's the record
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that the Titans would have.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Hit us up in the YouTube chat also where Wes
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Patrick says, Cam Ward also said the line about Texans
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the best 0-14 in history looking at them. So you
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: know that's circulating around the building and the messaging from
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: the coaches.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: We know who's not.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not talking about themselves being the best 0-14. No, look,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I think it's the start of excuse making.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Within the team and what we're going to hear from.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: And also, by the way, we're only going to hear
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: from Cam Ward and Robert Sala after the game.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: No one else is going to speak.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: So those two guys, they are the messengers of the organization.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: The guy who's the president of the team can't even
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: speak when he lays off three people. So we're only
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: going to hear from those two. They're going to be
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: left to talk about everything bad that happens on Sunday.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: We only hear from the front office when it's about entertainment,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Titans entertainment and Titans in their new stadium.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: That's when you put a hard hat on and you
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: get your one-on-one.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Chad, coming up, the SEC considering a new way to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: look at the transfer rule. We dive into that. We've
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: got a lot to get to today. Enos Cantor sitting
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: down with Clay Travis. Chad's got his top 10 college
• 23:43
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  Speaker 1: Chad, do you like the chatter of transfer rules and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: all this stuff in the middle of the season? Or
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: would you rather hear about it in the offseason when
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: we're all asking about it?
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I think if you were going to position yourself like
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the SEC is, the NFL of college football, and you
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: were going to be the standard bearer and you're going
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: to start trends and do all those things that the
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: standard bearer would do, I think this rule makes a
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: lot of sense, and it did for years. The rule
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: is that if you transfer from one SEC program to another,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: you've got to sit out a year.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: But you can.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Transfer anywhere else you want to out of the league
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: if you were currently at an SEC school. This sounds great.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I love the regulation involved in that. I love the
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: structure of it. It feels more contractual when you do
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: it that way where you can't just get mad or
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: you're not playing or you're playing a lot and you
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: want to go get more money. And so I'm going
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: to go over to the rival. I'm going to go
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: from Alabama to Auburn. I'm going to go from Tennessee
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to Florida, from Ole Miss to Mississippi State. Correct, from
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss to LSU or vice versa. It prevents players
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: from doing that to create this kind of unfair system
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: really a lack of checks and balances when all the
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: power is with the player to say, screw you, I'm
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: going to go to the rival and I'm not going
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: to sit at all. And by the way, I'm going
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: to make more money to go beat you on the
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: other side. That's not what you want for a fully
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: functioning and fair system of play at any level. You
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: don't want to have that ability. But the problem with
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: this is, and a few anonymous SEC coaches brought this up,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: that this story is now out that the SEC is
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: going to try to circulate this and get this rule
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: back into effect. with some more guidance and regulation in
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: college football, is that if you do this for the SEC,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: you put yourself at almost a disadvantage to the other conferences.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Meaning that if you want to be able to go
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: anywhere in America and not sit out, given the current
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: transfer rules, and if this Protect College Sports Act passes,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: where you get one-time transfer wherever you want to go,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: then you may not want to go to an SEC school.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Because then it would prevent you from going to another
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: SEC school at some point. Whereas if you go to
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: the Big Ten, you can go to any Big Ten
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: school you want. If you go to the Big 12,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: you can go to any Big 12 school you want
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: because there's no rule in place in those conferences. Here's
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: what I'd like to see, Hutton. Every league does this.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a part of the Protect
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: College Sports bill, but I would like to see every
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: league have the same rule. where you can't transfer from
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: one conference school to another without sitting out for a year.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Then you would have players that would have to go
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: out of the conference if they decided to transfer. And yes,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: it does limit their options, but if you're a great player,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: and when we're talking about players that make a ton
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: of money, we're talking about the great players, the really
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: good talents that have proven it usually that then have
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: a chance later in their career to go somewhere else.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: If you're a great player, it's not going to hinder
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: your ability to make money. Because if you're a star
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: at Georgia and you want to go bank on somebody
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: else's dime, you can go to Ohio State.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: No problem. No penalty. One time. You can go to Michigan.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: You can transfer to a school at a conference. You
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: just can't go within the conference.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: So a couple of thoughts here. Let's start with the coaches,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the anonymity aspect of this. I don't know why coaches
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: don't put their name behind certain things. I understand why
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you stay silent on certain topics when it comes to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: this that directly affects your program. And with the money
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that these coaches are making, with the clout that they
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: carry on campus, in many cases, they're the highest paid
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: public employee in the state. I don't know why they
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: don't put their name behind it. and it carries more
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: weight with me if they do that. The whole idea, though,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: that it puts the SEC at a disadvantage is laughable
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to me because the SEC is at an advantage any
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: time they want to tamper with any other program in
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the country because the SEC comes knocking and it puts
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the other team, the other program, the other conference at
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: a disadvantage.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: That's number one. They're doing that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: They have a huge advantage by coaching in the Southeastern Conference.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Number two, if the other players who are currently in
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the SEC– are getting the, the, the, the doors being,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you could hear the knock at the door and it's
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: another program from the big 10 or let's say just
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: from the ACC or from the big 12. Do you
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: really think they want to leave the SEC to go
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: to those conferences right now?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Not with the NIL issues that are going on right now,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: they can make more backing up at certain SEC programs
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: than they can starting at other programs across the country.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: So that disadvantage to me is not really real. Uh,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: maybe in a couple instances, but not across the board.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And I would say, uh, The tampering, I think all
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: this does, Chad, specifically for the SEC, is keep tampering
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: from happening within the conference. You're still going to have
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: everyone calling upon the agents and the families and the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: players of the players that you have on your roster.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: But it's going to keep.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: issues from happening where LSU and Ole Miss happen in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the middle of the.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Season right before they go to the college football playoff.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: It's going to keep Tennessee and Alabama from talking back
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and forth to rosters. That's good for the conference, even though, yes,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it's happening outside the conference. That's going to continue. And
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the SEC teams are doing the same thing outside the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: conference at the same time, but they're doing it from within.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And I think that the structure of the SEC and
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: what makes it so strong is from top to bottom,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you very rarely see any vitriol or bickering or really
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: infighting that goes on where it eats itself. We saw
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: it some with LSU last year and how things happened
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: with Ole Miss.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: We saw it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: With the way that things were handled with the NFL
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: players that were in camp and how things were handled
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: legally and then within the SEC and within Sankey and
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the bylaws and the presidents from the other universities with
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: LSU this preseason. But Chad, very rarely do we see
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: this bubble to the surface to where you have program
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: versus program publicly fighting and you're battling against one another
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: rather than battling against other conferences. And I think it
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: actually behooves the other conferences not to make this rule
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: because it makes your conference better if you're getting SEC
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: talent coming in, and you can immediately improve and bolster
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: your roster for the college football playoff. I don't think
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: this hurts the SEC as much as it would hurt
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: or help the other conferences. I agree there. But I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: view this as just an internal effort to keep the tampering–
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: activity down where you don't have Jeff Levy calling or,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm using him, but it would be his
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: staff calling members of the Tennessee roster. And then you
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: really have some issues going on with the, with the,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: with the complaints within SEC versus SEC bylaws.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it definitely would help, would aid other
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: conferences because now suddenly they don't have the option if
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: they're unhappy somewhere to transfer within the conference and, And
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: whatever your NIL budget is or whatever school you have,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: then you could lure good players from the Southeastern Conference
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: to your league that wants to play more or wants
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: some money or whatever it is. So I think you
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: are inadvertently helping other conferences if you pass this rule
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: for the SEC.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I think that the.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Whole we're together type thing is an important one because
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: you're right. It's Clemson and Dabo Sweeney that goes after
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss. It's not Mississippi State that goes after Ole
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Miss for tampering. even though I'm sure Ole Miss at
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: some point is probably tampered with someone at Mississippi State
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: or somewhere else in the conference. when someone at Tennessee
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: gets pissed off about not having a night kickoff against Alabama,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: they get with Clay Travis and tell him about it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Clay can relay that info. But then when contacted for comment,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Tennessee has no comment.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Because you don't speak out against the Godfather. And the
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Godfather is the league itself, which is smart. It's why
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: the SEC has been very successful.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: No doubt.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Is when they pass something, it's typically unanimous. They all
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: get on the same page before they vote something in.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: And every school president is on board at that point,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: even if it doesn't benefit one of the schools, right?
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: When they added Texas, Texas A & M, who did
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: not want Texas in the league, had to officially get
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: on board because you don't go against the family.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: You don't go against the godfather.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: And if we're going to treat the SEC like a
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: mafia family, like in many ways it kind of is
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: and has been for years with bags of cash and
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: everything under the table, now it's above the table and.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: We can see everything.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: You don't go against the family because And that, to me,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: is the root and the basis of this rule. You
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: don't go against the family. You can't go and raid
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: another family member's closet and pantry to bring in talent
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: to your team. If you want to go raid Minnesota's
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: three best players, have at it. If you want to
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: go get Michigan State's guys, go and get them. If
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: you want to go to Arizona State and bring in
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: their top player the way Texas did with the running
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: back or the way LSU did with the quarterback and
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Sam Leavitt, have at it. We're just not going to
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: eat our own Because increasingly it is a league, and
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: we're seeing it this year, they will eat their own.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: And they're going to hurt their chances at multiple college
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: football playoff spots because it is becoming a little bit
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: more like the NFL. We're going to get into some
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: SEC picks later. We currently have this SEC media darling
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: syndrome happening in the league. Where one week you're the
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: best thing since sliced bread, the next week you're getting
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: your doors kicked in by somebody on the road. We've
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: seen it now multiple weeks in a row. I've got
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: a team, by the way, I'm going to pick that's
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: the next one that's about to get their doors blown
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: out at home after being talked about all week about
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: how great they are. So they want to avoid that,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: and I understand the thinking behind it, Hutton, but I
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: think everything you bring up is the reason not to
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: do it and also the reason that the SEC probably
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: shouldn't complain. about some of this stuff, the way it functions.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Well, see, the SEC's not trying to stop Sam Levitt
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: from leaving Arizona State to come to LSU.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Not at all.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: They just want– they don't want Trinidad Chambliss to go
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: from Ole Miss to LSU because that doesn't help the conference.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: It only helps the university. The conference is bolstered by
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: having the better quarterbacks transfer in and immediately play.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: But if you're.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Just circling and you're just adding more ingredients from your
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: own conference– Those were already there. And I realize most
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: of the instances may be backups, but last year we
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: did see starters leave and go to LSU. Now, the
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: question would be, are there any caveats to this? If
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: the coach leaves, can the players go? Those are always
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: going to be questions that are within the overall discussion
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and the rule. But I would say I understand why
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: it's SEC only. The coaches that think it's going to
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: hurt the league, I don't think so because the better
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: players across the country are entering the league anyway. By
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and large, I don't see a lot of intra-conference transferring
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: starter to starter. I see a lot of starters coming
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: in from other conferences that that then bolster the team
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: and take them to a new height.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: We saw it with Vanderbilt. We're seeing it with Kentucky.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: The list goes on and on.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's just the soup that is
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the SEC just regurgitating each other's players. That's not the case.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: And I don't think a lot of SEC players are
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: going to take the bag and go to the Big
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: 12 because not everybody is Texas Tech. And half of
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the NIL budget that might be at Oklahoma State is
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: not triple that at some of these programs in the SEC.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: You can stay and wait your turn and get paid,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: if not more, than you would to start. I know
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: it's about the NFL, but nowadays, Chad, players are choosing
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: to stay four years. They're not leaving after three.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Well, the most high profile of the guys, though, there
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: is a bit of an issue with that. There's not
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: a ton of But Cam Coleman from Auburn to Texas,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: that's a problem for the league, for the conference.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: They're not going to like that. Everything that went on
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: with LSU and Ole Miss.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: And we could say special circumstance, you had a coach leave,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: and those guys wanted to play for that coach, so
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: they left with him. A similar thing that's just different
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: conferences is some of Tennessee's best defensive players played at
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Penn State for Jim Knowles. They just followed their coach
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: after James Franklin got fired. to Knoxville and their plug
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: and play guys who were having, I mean, Dijon Lane
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: was the national defensive player of the week this past week.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: And he was a safety at Penn State who followed
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: his coach to Knoxville. So Tennessee benefits from that from
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: another conference. There are other high profile guys that have
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: gone SEC to SEC, which they want to avoid. Again,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: to me, it's just all about, you don't go against
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: the family. We're going to keep things tight-knit. We negotiate
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: together with media rights. We're going to do things together
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: as a league. And if you want to go raid
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: anybody else's roster, you can do that, and we're going
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: to have the resources here in this league based on
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: what we're paying you with the media rights and everything
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: else and all the gate money you're making and the
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: bigger stadium.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: And they play immediately.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: All the different factors that contribute to the SEC being
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: the best conference in college football. We're going to continue
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: to have those advantages. Just don't attack the family.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't. Keep it outside the family. They're players. They're players.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: If they decide to leave, which a lot of them
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: will every year from these programs, they've got to go
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: to the Big Ten or the Big 12 or the ACC.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: They can't go there.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Again, I would love this if every conference had the
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: same rule that went that way and they all could
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: be more tight-knit. I think that helps the conference system
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: as a whole if you do that. But– I also
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: understand the anonymous SEC coach who says, if we do this,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: it's giving other leagues somewhat of a little bit. It's
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: not going to make them better than the SEC. But
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: the thought is like, hey, you can come here and
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: then go wherever you want.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't work out here, you can go from
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Ohio State to Michigan. We don't care in this league.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Where it helps. Wherever you can get the most money,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: you can go. If that coach takes a job outside
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: of the SEC.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: They can bring players like Kiffin did to LSU if
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: a coach takes a job at Notre Dame or at
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Ohio State or at Michigan.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: That's where it helps, yes.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: But that would be under the circumstance of that coach
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: bringing those players with them. It also keeps, again, the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: illegal recruitment and the tampering down.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: You're not going to stop at all.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: If Kiffin's taking a job at LSU and he's bringing
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: players with him.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Let's take it a step further. Make it illegal to
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: take a job within the conference if you're a coach.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: If you really want to not go against the family,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: make it like the NFL. If you're going to hinder
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: players and their ability to leave from one conference school
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: to another, then guess what, Lane Kiffin?
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: You can't take the LSU job while you're under contract.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: If you want to let your contract expire at Ole
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Miss and go to another SEC job, job, you can
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: do that just like they do in the NFL. But
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: until then, you can only get paid by Texas Tech
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: if you want to leave.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Or by Michigan or whoever comes calling. You cannot go
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: conference school to conference school while under contract. I would
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: love to see more of that within the SEC or conferences.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: There are many things, Derek Dooley has brought this up,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: that the NFL does far better than college football. I
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: think college football has an advantage in certain areas, but.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Not most of them.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: The NFL is more of a finely tuned machine where
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: everyone is pulling in the same direction and everybody's making
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: money because they're all together. And part of that is,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: you know, Mike McDonald can't leave the Seattle Seahawks. and
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: hold them over the barrel and say, pay me more
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: money to stay because the Arizona Cardinals want to hire me.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: After this year, after I won the Super Bowl. And
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I think that makes for a better league.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: What a great point. I mean, this is about players.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Let's also think coaches. That's another great point to factor in.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Who would be the coach of the Nashville Balls? I'm
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: not sure.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: But we know who's the starting center for this team.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Enos Cantor.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: For Clay's expansion WNBA franchise. He just can't sit down
• 40:47
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• 40:49
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  Speaker 1: Looking forward to that, Chad. I'm confident in mine. I'm
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• 42:01
  Speaker 1: We saw the promo of Clay Travis and Ease Cantor
• 42:04
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• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Now we.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Now we get to see clips from the sit-down.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: It was quite the conversation, Chad. Yes, it was. Really fun.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: And Clay even teased. There was the promo video.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I know the Jacob Lutz shot where Clay's throwing the
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: alley-oop or Enos Cantor's going up and dunking. And he's
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: saying there's going to be multiple things that are viral
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: clips that people are going to be interested in seeing.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: This was certainly one of them. This is Enos Cantor
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: talking about the 2020 NBA COVID bubble experience and some
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: of the frivolities that were taking place within the bubble.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Here's Enos.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: What did you do in the rooms? Were you active
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: on social media? How did you pass your time? So NBA,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: which I did not do it. Let me make it
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: very clear. So you're not allowed to smoke marijuana. But
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: for that period, NBA was allowing all the players smoke marijuana.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: In the hotels?
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: In the hotels and everywhere. And so I see all
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: my teammates, right? Their eyes are red. They're like, they
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: can barely walk. And we have like four or five
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: hours left till the game starts. I'm like, guys, what
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: are you doing?
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: So they would not let you go get food from
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: an Uber, but they let you have as much weed
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: in the bubble as you want.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you another thing. This happened with the Celtics,
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: which was disgusting, I think. I'm glad that I did
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: not do it. So this is not the NBA. I
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: don't know who did that. They were passing away some
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: kind of like a password. So you can literally just
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: go on and watch... any OnlyFans model you want for free.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: So they were just.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Somebody had a code that allowed you to go in
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: and you could see any OnlyFans because you're in the
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: rooms by yourself all day.
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: So they put this code on a paper. They were
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: just passing it. I'm like, what is this? So they
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: explained to me. I'm like, I'm good. I don't want it.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: This is just nasty. I don't want to watch someone's daughter,
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: someone's whatever, just getting naked. I just wouldn't do it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: I have better morals.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: By the way, you still have the code?
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: I don't have the code. I don't have that because
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: I never got it.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Not just for research purposes.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: But it was just horrible. Anyway, I mean, we stayed
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: up for 82 days, man. And twice a day, like,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: think about every morning, every night, we were just getting, like, COVID.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: And also, like, if your family wanted to visit you,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: because after, like, the 40th or 50th day, they start
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: allowing family members, but, like, with kids and everything, but
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: they had to stay in a room for seven days. Like,
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: no kid's going to do that, you know? Um, so
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: people were just missing their families, um, and stuff. Um,
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, finally it was done. Uh, we got out
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: of it and it was just, I was just like
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: a very modern prison.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: A very modern prison that featured free usage of marijuana,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: free usage of.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: OnlyFans on the website. I mean, it sounds like a
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: hell of a prison when I, when I hear that
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: about the bubble.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: You know, I hear these stories and I'm thinking to myself, man,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: this is from the player's perspective. Imagine being like an
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: equipment manager and what that must be like to be
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: there for as long as they were, you know, like,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: cause everything's about the players and making sure they're healthy.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: making sure they have the beds that are long enough
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: for these seven-foot players. And then you've got the equipment
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: managers who, I mean, they're way down the totem pole
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: on making sure they're comfortable. An inside look at a non-player,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: just a staff employee, a look at the NBA bubble
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: would be fascinating. I doubt there's any OnlyFans models that
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: are claiming they're receiving invitations to enter the bubble.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: From an equipment manager standpoint.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: It's just like the OnlyFans page has all the requests
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: from the viewers, the paying people of subscribers of the
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: OnlyFans model. And then it's just like a random message
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: from DeMar DeRozan, 23. It's like, do you want to
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: come to the NBA bubble? Or whoever's hitting them up.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Not to say that DeMar DeRozan did that, but that
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: was just the example that popped in my head. I'm
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: also laughing at you're walking through and they probably have
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: all those forms up that's like, Wi-Fi access with a
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: password and everything else, like everything for the NBA players
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: in the bubble. And then it has just a section
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: for OnlyFans access. Username, Adam.Silver at NBA.com. Password is I
• 46:36
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• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I just.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: The possibilities of things that were going on. Here's the
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: other thing, too. Smoking weed up to three hours before
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: tip-off because they're not testing.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I've never been a weed guy in my life, but
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: it just doesn't feel like the substance you would want
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: to be doing before playing an NBA game.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I don't understand that. Do they allow hunting for mental health?
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: What was the thinking behind not testing and allowing for
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: that in the bubble?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I would say, does guys just want to feel high?
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: For the league to.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Say like, hey, we're not going to test. Just so
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: you know, like anything goes, they allow for marijuana smoking.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Was it something to do with COVID-19? Was it the
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: stress of it? I don't understand that. And I don't
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: understand the motivation of a player who a couple hours
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: before you're playing a game, You're reeking of marijuana before
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: you take the court. It just doesn't feel like the
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: right substance to me.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I also agreed with the players back whenever the NFL
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: was testing for it. The players were like, how is
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: this performance enhancing? Why are we testing for this? This
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: is not performance enhancing. I would think the same thing.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: It's certainly not performance enhancing to me of all the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: different things to do to want to get high and
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: then go play a sport. To me, it would slow
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: things down to a manner that's hurting my team, not
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: helping my individual performance.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: There's no way it's performance enhancing. It's performance dehancing for sure.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, back in the day, you know, Mickey Mantle
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: would take amphetamines. Greenies, as they called them in Major
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: League Baseball. That's because everybody was out getting wrecked until
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: 3 or 4 a.m. And they were showing up for
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: day baseball games hungover. And they had little fixes to
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: get not hungover and to get ready for a game.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: So they would take amphetamines to get it going again
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: for a game. That's a performance enhancer. I would understand
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: that being banned eventually, which it is, that guys are
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: going to take things like that to get going for
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: a game. The opposite effect of that is what Enos
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Cantor is talking about where, hey, let's just make it
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: completely normal and okay to smoke weed the entire time
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: in the bubble and you can be high on marijuana
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: when you take the court.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Makes no sense to me.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Remember ESPN even sent people in that had to stay
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: there inside the bubble.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Do you think that OnlyFans and their firewall and the protocols,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: because I feel like it's like a Netflix account, right?
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Like only so many friends and family can be on
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: your Netflix account before they shut it down or they stop.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Allowing you to add.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: If everyone is logging in, every NBA staffer and player
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: is logged into the same universal account for OnlyFans. Doesn't
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: the people at OnlyFans look at that and say, okay,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: we're going to stop this? Or Hutton, do you think
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: this is great advertising?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: We want the NBA protocols.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Players who have a ton of money to spend a
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: ton of money on these OnlyFans model, so we're going
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: to allow it to happen. We see what's going on here.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Somebody has shared a username and password with OnlyFans to
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: see every model, and we're going to allow for it
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: because we want their money.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I would think there was such a move. I'd love
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: for Clay's next.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Interview to be with someone with OnlyFans to explain why
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: the thought process behind all of the NBA using their service.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Well, there, there was a, I Googled her this, um,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: stories of girls entering bubble NBA. And there's, there's one of, uh,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: there's an only fans model, um, Instagram model claims player
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: invited her to the NBA bubble. Um, I'm sure she
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: didn't go. It was just the invited aspect of it. Uh,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I would love to see like the stories of like
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the boom of only fans during that era where everyone's, uh,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: locked up in their homes. They're probably just inundated with
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: so many requests that this didn't even trigger anything. The
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: bubble was nothing compared to the rest of the common America.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: COVID destroyed some businesses, and they made a lot of businesses.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: That pandemic created businesses. I think OnlyFans is one that benefited.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: But there are plenty of industries that benefited from that pandemic.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Chad, remember this, like just going back to just you
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and I in perspective, our podcast boomed. That year we
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: had over what? It was like three and a half
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: million for just a local radio show that year. Yeah,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: that was that year, 2020. That podcast industry, of course, huge.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: YouTube, you know, all that. And absolutely.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: And Hutton, for all COVID related or other conspiracies, you
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: can watch On Tilt every day from 4 p.m.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Eastern time to 5 p.m. Eastern time.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Kelly Stewart, Kelly in Vegas, she's got you covered with
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: all of all the conspiracy theories about who.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Benefited and why.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I'm watching the latest season of Lioness and there's this
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: great scene where Nicole Kidman, who's in the show. She
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: plays this high ranking CIA operative, sort of a Wizard
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: of Oz type, you know, puppeteer of the CIA. And
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: her husband is an older guy who works for some
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: consulting firm who does work for the Department of Defense
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: and does research and analytics. So he's a wizard. He
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: knows everything that's going on in geopolitics. He knows what's
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: going on in industries. And he can always throw out
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: the different conspiracies and things that are happening. And I
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: feel like Kelly could be this guy. Because all he
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: does is answer questions with more questions. It's like, why
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: do you think that is? And who would stand to benefit?
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: And which country might that be? And who would possibly
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: have it out for the United States of America? And
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Nicole Kidman's having to answer all of these questions one
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: after the other. And I'm thinking, if I'm married to
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: this person, I'm like, just give me the answer. I'm
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: trying to find my compatriot who has been kidnapped by
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: someone right now. Can you please get to the end
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: of this and stop asking questions? That could be Kelly.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: And you can get all the conspiracy theories that you
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: want from Kelly. Kelly, love you.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Ariel.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Love you, Kelly.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Joe, God bless you. That's what we would say for
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: on tilt. Coming up, God bless Chad. Because this week,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I would guess a little bit different in putting together
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: his top ten than the last couple. Next week's going
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: to be very difficult because there's so many selections. This week, though,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I'm curious about his top 10 games of the college
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: football weekend.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: He's going to tell you the games you cannot miss.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: That's next here on Hunting With Row.