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Cornerbacks the Buffalo Bills should target in the 2025 NFL Draft | DC · Disguised Coverage

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  Speaker 4: In this episode of disguised coverage, we will be diving
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  Speaker 4: into the twenty twenty five or back class for the
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  Speaker 4: upcoming NFL Draft, a class that has some real legitimate
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  Speaker 4: talent at the top and even going into Day two,
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  Speaker 4: maybe even a little bit into Day three. And that's
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  Speaker 4: important for this Buffalo Bills team as they have a
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  Speaker 4: glaring need at CB two. They have blocked up Christian
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  Speaker 4: Benford long term as their CB one, which looks very
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  Speaker 4: good right now given his play and the fact that
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  Speaker 4: he still is ascending and has an upwards trajectory in
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  Speaker 4: his career, which is nice to see. They traded away
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  Speaker 4: Kyrie Eland, they brought back Dane Jackson, but there's questions
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  Speaker 4: at CB two for the Bills, and maybe even depentially
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  Speaker 4: depending on how you view Dane Jackson, maybe even questions
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  Speaker 4: at CB three, maybe CB four, depending on how you
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  Speaker 4: view Jermarcus ingram. So the Bill is definitely at the
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  Speaker 4: very least need a CB two in my estimation coming
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  Speaker 4: out of this draft, they could double dip and add
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  Speaker 4: to the overall corner depth and get yourself maybe potentially
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  Speaker 4: a solidified CB three coming out as well, but that
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  Speaker 4: will come in the conversation that we have throughout this episode.
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  Speaker 4: And we had James Foster on the show last week.
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  Speaker 4: I have another guest now next week to go over
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  Speaker 4: another specific position grouping of need for the Buffalo Bills.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to have draft experts and people who really
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  Speaker 4: know ball and who know the game and scheme and
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  Speaker 4: structure and who know how to evaluate players, and I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to do that for this episode as well, but
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  Speaker 4: unfortunately I couldn't find anybody that was good enough. So
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  Speaker 4: Russ's been on the show.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even count how many times down between draft
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  Speaker 4: Over the years. But Russell, the Lions Men just draft
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  Speaker 4: one of legitimately one of the foremost ball knowers when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to just football in general, but especially draft time.
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  Speaker 4: Russ and I text all the time. We message all
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  Speaker 4: the time about football and wrestling and different things. Someone
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  Speaker 4: I'm very happy to call my friend, but also somebody
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  Speaker 4: who legit knows his stuff. So I'm pumped.
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  Speaker 1: Have you welcome the show? Thanks for having me. Always
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  Speaker 1: fun dude, And uh, you know, when you're like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, football or something that I got going on,
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  Speaker 1: it's always one hundred percent yes, because there's just a
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  Speaker 1: the Dudley Boys, I don't know, you know, uh, the
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Lynn of the Draft, I don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: love that. Yeah, that's a huge compliment to be Jerry Lynn.
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  Speaker 1: It is a great worker, tremendous worker.
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  Speaker 4: And him and RBD, like their matches, like their series
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it. It's a compliment, but
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  Speaker 1: I would take it tremendously. It's better than Marty Janetti.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's what you are so of this show right now? Also,
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  Speaker 1: WrestleMania ten. Dude. I can't wait to wear it on.
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  Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna wear it both nights to WrestleMania. You
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  Speaker 1: know why, because I'm just gonna watch wrest Mayana for
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  Speaker 4: That's fairly huge compliment, but it is a huge compliment. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's a six shirt. I wish I didn't. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if I didn't hate Sewan Michaels, I probably like it more.
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  Speaker 1: Hey. Yeah, he's a tremendous wrestler, like tremendous wrestler, but
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  Speaker 1: the person that he was admittedly let the nineties go. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: I will never let it go.
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  Speaker 4: He was the reason Brett Hart bounced and then Goldberg
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  Speaker 4: kicked him in the friggin head and it ruined his career.
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  Speaker 4: I will never forgive Shawn Michaels for being such a
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  Speaker 4: not nice person.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that Goldberg's fault? Yeah, it is Goldberg's fault, But
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  Speaker 1: Brett wanted a wrestling podcast. I would I would never
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  Speaker 1: it would be I'd get into too many Like I'm
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  Speaker 1: able to keep myself like contained for like football conversations
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  Speaker 1: if somebody disagrees and things, but something as arbitrary is wrestling, man,
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  Speaker 1: I would just blow up.
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  Speaker 4: It would it would never, it would never work. I'd
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  Speaker 4: be so angry all the time with somebody, even now,
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  Speaker 4: like even just having the conversation with you, like right now,
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  Speaker 4: I'm immediately like, screw Sean Michaels, Like, here's such a jerk.
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  Speaker 4: Brett was gonna do business on the way out. He
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  Speaker 4: just didn't want to do it to Sean because Sean
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't do it for him.
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  Speaker 1: And then that anyways, back to the Bills. Great to
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  Speaker 1: be here, Happy to be back with my boys here
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  Speaker 1: at Cover one. By the way, your guys' film room
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  Speaker 1: stuff is lights out. I'm glad to see the dream
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  Speaker 1: come to fruition because I know that has been in
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  Speaker 1: the works and the grind has been real for a
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  Speaker 1: long time, and you guys deserve all of that. So
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  Speaker 1: I hope it continues to build, and I hope it
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  Speaker 1: leads to more down the road with just you know,
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  Speaker 1: beyond the Bills. I hope it leads to other players
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  Speaker 1: and so on and so forth, which I think is
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna end up happening. So fingers crossed from my boys,
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  Speaker 1: love you guys, Thank you very much. I hope it does.
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  Speaker 4: That's pretty sweet. One last thing on wrestling, Charles says,
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  Speaker 4: Cody or Sina, I, man, they both bore the absolute
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  Speaker 4: hell out of me in the ring, so I could
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  Speaker 4: not care less, but I can't stand Cody, so probably
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  Speaker 4: guess what I also can't stand Seena.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go with Cody Rhodes dying in the ring and
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  Speaker 1: then coming back to life somehow with you know, a
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  Speaker 1: dire wolf that just got gramatically prob.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, his dog comes to the ring
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  Speaker 4: and like resuscitates him, and then everybody, all the entire
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  Speaker 4: locker room, in the entire arena all fill the ring
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  Speaker 4: and they lift Cody up to the heavens as this
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  Speaker 4: giant hero and he springs back to life, and fine,
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  Speaker 4: I just can't stand him.
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  Speaker 1: His one thing I could see happening, and I could
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  Speaker 1: see scene A winning, but I could also see Cody winning,
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  Speaker 1: and I could see Cody turning heel and joining with
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  Speaker 1: the Rock and it's almost like a big swerve type thing,
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  Speaker 1: because if Cody was a heel, it was It's a
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  Speaker 1: million times better. Heal Cody.
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  Speaker 4: I remember seeing Cody on the indies, like in the
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  Speaker 4: Ring of Honor shows when I was living in New York.
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  Speaker 4: He O, Cody was sweet and even like him going
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  Speaker 4: up against Kenny in San Francisco when he did the
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  Speaker 4: g One Super Show. Like, heal Cody is a good deal.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to we're here on aw, he just wouldn't.
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  Speaker 4: I think they give it to Sina and I think
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  Speaker 4: you can tell a good story with it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I they both bore me in the rings. This match
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  Speaker 4: is gonna be so slow and horribly paced. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: am I gonna watch it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Probably, But man, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Still excited for it. I mean it's it's wrestle Mania
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  Speaker 1: or Russalmania, whatever you want to call it these days.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: But h Charles says he remember start Us.
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  Speaker 1: I like that start ups that if there was anybody
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  Speaker 1: in this room that start start us, it's it's definitely Anthony.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you you paint your face all the time
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  Speaker 4: just to hang out and watch TV in your house.
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  Speaker 4: So if anyone start us, I feel like it's it's
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  Speaker 4: I'm the originator.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gold dust. Let's call it what it is, dude.
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  Speaker 4: Gold Dust was Dustin Rhodes could work.
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  Speaker 1: It was awesome.
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  Speaker 4: He and it's crazy with how athletic Cody is, but
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  Speaker 4: he's just so slow and boring. We've gone horribly off topic.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but I enjoy cove minutes in this lett do it.
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  Speaker 1: I also blame the chat a little bit. I like
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  Speaker 1: the chat to stoke this fire. But we digress.
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  Speaker 4: This this corner class for the twenty twenty five draft,
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  Speaker 4: let's talk about it from a high level perspective. Your
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  Speaker 4: thoughts on it, strengths, weaknesses, likes, dislikes as you kind of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, finalize your draft board and your rankings and
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  Speaker 4: your guide and all that stuff. Like, what are your
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  Speaker 4: thoughts on this corner class in the twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 4: NFL Draft?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I really like it, especially at the
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  Speaker 1: top right like Colorado corner Travis Hunter. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: a corner. I think you sprinkle him in as a
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver as much as you can. Obviously, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if there's like gonna be contract negotiations or input
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  Speaker 1: from agents and saying Hey, he's a receiver, because that's
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  Speaker 1: probably where he's gonna get the most bang for his
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  Speaker 1: buck in today's market of the NFL. But if I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking at it as a coach, I know that I
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  Speaker 1: can sprinkle him in on my offense, but knowing that
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  Speaker 1: he can take away a quarter of the field, a
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  Speaker 1: third of the field in zone or man up a
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  Speaker 1: guy in lockdown. Let's just say, justin Jefferson for an
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  Speaker 1: entire game. Don't know if he's going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just predicting it. And if he's able to do that,
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  Speaker 1: And just like watching him, he's so natural and few
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  Speaker 1: it in in his back pedal, in sitting and then
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  Speaker 1: closing like he's so good with that. So I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a huge value to him playing corner and you
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  Speaker 1: can easily make him one of the highest paid defenders
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  Speaker 1: down the road. So obviously love him. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, two or three off the board
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  Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. But behind him, you
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  Speaker 1: got Will Johnson, you got Trey Amos, who I know
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  Speaker 1: we both love, and we're probably gonna talk quite a
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  Speaker 1: bit about Chevon revel Azari, Thomas john A. Barn So
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  Speaker 1: it gets pretty deep and then I think there is
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a of a fallof But you know,
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  Speaker 1: between Will Johnson and Benjamin Morrison, I do kind of
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  Speaker 1: want to start here with just these two guys. As
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  Speaker 1: we talk like high level thoughts, I can't tell which
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  Speaker 1: prospect is like more forgotten about, right, Like I get
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  Speaker 1: why it's happening, but at the same time, like it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of bizarre. Like I do get neither player has
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  Speaker 1: been healthy the last like twelve to eighteen months, but
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  Speaker 1: the coverage ability for like Johnson and the ball skills
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  Speaker 1: that he had in twenty twenty three, it's top tier.
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  Speaker 1: It's like next level stuff, you know. And the same
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  Speaker 1: with Morrison, Like he's got great ball skills, super productive
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  Speaker 1: for Notre Dame, but he's been really banged up. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: Rick rude goat heel absolutely loved the trunks. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: when he wears them, he's spinning this hills nine ladies, Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But Benjamin Morrison, he dealt with hip and ankle surgeries
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  Speaker 1: the last like twelve to eighteen months, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: lower body element injuries really are concerning, So I get why,
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  Speaker 1: like they're falling a little bit, and like I've heard
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  Speaker 1: some stuff with like Will Johnson, like not overly physical,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to tackle. I think part of that was
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  Speaker 1: the shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you're.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at just coverage guys and guys are gonna get,
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  Speaker 1: you know, turnovers and create for the opposition for your offense,
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  Speaker 1: there might not be two better players in this class.
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  Speaker 1: So I really like him. They're both probably top forty,
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  Speaker 1: top fifty picks for sure, but it just feels like
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  Speaker 1: they've been forgotten about a little bit. And like when
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  Speaker 1: you get through mock drafts, it's like, oh, Will Johnson's
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  Speaker 1: at fifteen. It's like, wait a minute. Will Johnson was
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  Speaker 1: like a top five pick going into the year. Now
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  Speaker 1: now he's fifteenth.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So overall, I mean, I don't want to steal the
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  Speaker 1: thunder of every single player, but you know, I do
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  Speaker 1: like this corner class. And you know, like for example,
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Baron, the more I watch, the more I like
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  Speaker 1: his game. It's just like you watch him the first
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  Speaker 1: three four games and it's like, yeah, he's really good.
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  Speaker 1: I just I got to see the rest of the class.
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  Speaker 1: And then I go back and watch Baron again, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it's so easy to be his game
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  Speaker 1: translate to success in the NFL As a defender, I
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  Speaker 1: think he's probably more like that buzz safety nickel type guy,
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  Speaker 1: even though he did play on the perimeter this past year.
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  Speaker 1: But like I watch him and I'm like, man's he
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  Speaker 1: kind of has like that Brian Branch esque to him,
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  Speaker 1: and I just I look at him and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the way he buzzes down, the way he
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  Speaker 1: closes on the football. I think considering if a defense
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  Speaker 1: was to consider him as a player to take away
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  Speaker 1: the seams, hook, curl those zones, the crossers, I think
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  Speaker 1: like a team like Arizona, Jonathan Gannon would love to
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  Speaker 1: have him. He's already got Buddha Baker, but you had
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  Speaker 1: a guy like Johnny Barron there.
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  Speaker 4: Man is that Baron and mcuba like my two dream
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  Speaker 4: destinations for like those Texas dbs are both to go
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  Speaker 4: to Arizona with what they do with their three safety
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  Speaker 4: looks like and just what to do with like Garrett
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  Speaker 4: Williams from like as from the slot, but also safety
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  Speaker 4: like Baron or mccuba could be so sweet in that defense.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, And I mean I know we're not
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  Speaker 1: talking safeties. But Maccuba to me is one of the
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  Speaker 1: top fifty best players in this draft. A little thin, right,
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  Speaker 1: like thin lower half, little wiry, yeah, but man does
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  Speaker 1: he make some plays. He comes up with the football
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  Speaker 1: sometimes and it's like where did you come from? And
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  Speaker 1: like there's times where I'd like, is he Tracy Walker
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  Speaker 1: or is he more you know? Or is he more
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  Speaker 1: like Jesse Bates? You know what I mean? Like what
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  Speaker 1: type of safety is He's maybe not as physical as Walker,
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  Speaker 1: but he's kind of got that wiry frame as he did.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I love the dB class. I really like
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  Speaker 1: the safety class. I know we're talking corners, so I'll
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  Speaker 1: keep it there, but I like this class overall. I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited to talk you know, more about round one, guy's
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  Speaker 1: round two and so on.
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  Speaker 4: Oh a lot to unpack there.
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  Speaker 1: And you guys, no, you're good. I I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out where I want to start.
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  Speaker 4: I echo your sentiments on like in this corner class.
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  Speaker 4: I'm supposed to get the top, like to be in
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  Speaker 4: to have three picks in the top sixty two like
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  Speaker 4: the Bills do Round one, pick at thirty and then
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  Speaker 4: you know, pick fifty six and sixty two to need
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  Speaker 4: a corner two like the Bills do. I think it
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  Speaker 4: slots very well, like you have a shot to take
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  Speaker 4: a real legitimate one at thirty or depending on how
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  Speaker 4: things fall for you in round two, you could get
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  Speaker 4: one there. And I think depending on how people tier
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  Speaker 4: out their corners, I just think, like tier one through,
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  Speaker 4: depending on how you tiered out, like tier four, tier
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  Speaker 4: five gives you like legitimate like CB two value the
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  Speaker 4: higher you go. Obviously, some guys can turn into actual
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  Speaker 4: CV ones, and you know, for me, I want to
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  Speaker 4: I do want to start with Johnson and Baron. You know, Johnson,
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  Speaker 4: I think, and that's such a great point about remember
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  Speaker 4: the him and Morrison, but especially Johnson, who I feel
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  Speaker 4: like Johnson Johnson is one of several guys in this
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  Speaker 4: draft who it's like, oh man, his twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 4: tape was better than his twenty twenty four tape, and
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  Speaker 4: the tackling was my biggest disappointment with him this year.
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  Speaker 4: Like seeing his size and frame and knowing the defense
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  Speaker 4: that he plays in and the school that he plays for.
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  Speaker 4: I just assumed, and again me how we played in
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. I just figured to sound tackler and
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  Speaker 4: there were times where he's grasping an air or he's
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  Speaker 4: getting run through, like receivers are going through him, backs
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  Speaker 4: are going through him, like and he's just more of
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  Speaker 4: the nail than he is the hammer. And to your point,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's injury. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: it's like we won the Natty last year, we're not
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: winning it this year.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I don't feel good.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: I want to get to the NFL, like, and I
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: don't feeling right like yeah, and I don't I don't
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: want to put that out there because I have no idea. Funny,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: I think that's very like a real thing. Yeah, like
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: and I don't know, like dad happens with dudes, Like
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: some guys are just ready to be like man, like,
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: we're not going to the playoffs this year. This sucks.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I kind of don't want to do this anymore. Or yeah,
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: if your shoulder hurts but you're undefeated and you're going
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: to the playoffs, it hurts a lot less than if
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: you're like five and five and you're in the bottom
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: of the Big ten or whatever, like it just and
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: so I don't know if he turned off a little bit,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: but the coverage instincts and I'm very careful to use
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: the word instinct because I feel like that gets used
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: as a cure all too much. I don't know if
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: it's instinct. I don't know if it's him diagnosing or
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: just the tape study. But you watch him, and several
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: people have talked about it, even just going back to
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: the twenty twenty four tape that interception against USC, he's
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: trapping the slot, like you see him sit in squat
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: and he lets number one go by him and he
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: just jumps the out from number two or like that
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: little hitch houses it. The ball skills, the anticipation, the size,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: the coverage ability, He's just so built to be just
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: such a solid.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Sound corner in the NFL.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, Like, I really do think it's unfair
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: to him that he's coming out in this draft because
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: I feel like he's a corner one in a lot
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: of years. It's just that he's in a draft with
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Travis Hunter. I do think he just his floor for
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: me is like low end CB two. I think Will
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Johnson just provides you a lot of quality reps. And
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: with Johnson and Baron specifically, because I think you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: people may have them ranked differently, But Baron's really exploded
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: on to the scene with the year that he had,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: you know, winning the awards that he did, having the
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: combine that he had. Do you see a scenario where
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: either Will Johnson or John A. Barn fall to thirty
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: or I don't think Johnson will but fall to thirty,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: or if either of them fall close enough for the
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Bills if they wanted to to potentially trade up and
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: acquire one of them, like you do you see either
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: of them falling into I don't know, the early.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: To mid twenties, like the twenty to twenty three range
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: something like that. I think Will Johnson possibly could just
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: like okay, because like you think Johnson has a higher
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: chance of falling them Barren, I do because not saying
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: of things like I've heard, but like there is some
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: legitimate injury stuff there right, Like we talked about the shoulder,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: but he did have a hamstring, He tore ligaments in
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: his toe, he had toe surgery, which is why he
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: didn't run. And it was just like the injuries have
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: been like one right after the other, and it's like
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: whenever a team has an opportunity or wants to get
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: an opportunity, to get a little bit of a closer
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: look on him. He is not m Ia but just
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: unavailable and like that that stands out to scouts and
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: departments and things like that. So like when I look
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: at him, I'm like, yeah, he could certainly go, you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: eleven to San Francisco. He makes a ton of sense
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: for Chicago if they want to upgrade. But like you
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: look at Atlanta at fifteen. Atlanta has five picks. And
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I actually wrote about this on the Lions where today,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: like the Lion we were talking about the Lions when
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: we were texting last week or whatever, talk about what
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: they were gonna do. Yeah, like Atlanta's in a prime
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: spot to trade back, whether it's to thirty or to
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: twenty eight. Like according to trade value chart, it's the
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Atlanta's pick is only it's worth one thousand and fifty points. Well,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: if the Lions gave up a first this year, a
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: third this year, so you know, twenty eight one oh two.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm just putting the Lions as an example for
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Bills fans. You can scheme it however you want, but
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the Lions have twenty eight, they take one oh two,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and then they take a second next year. That gives
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: them ten to fifty two in the total points. So
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: it's like, damn near identical to what they needed to be.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: And it's like, if let's say, I'm not saying the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Lions like Will Johnson, if there's a defensive end or whatever,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: or if there's a player like Will Johnson for the Bills,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: they might get antsy and say, hey, we're going up
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and getting this guy. He's gonna get healthy for us.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do a lot more you know, zone with
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: him or whatever gonna do. We're gonna take some of
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the physicality away from him and just let him cover
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: for us, and we'll let everybody else run the alley
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: and fill and do those things and be the perimeter
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: tackler that we want him to be. So I could
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: see Will fall into the fifteen range to eighteen nineteen,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: maybe even maybe twenty one to pitch in Pittsburgh, they
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: don't have a second round pick, and you know, maybe
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: they feel like, hey, we could move back and still
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: get Dart or mil Row. You know who knows. It
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: sounds weird, It sounds really weird to trade back and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: still get a quarterback. But crazier things have happened. I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: just look at Barrett and I'm like Miami Indie Arizona, Like,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it's just hard for me to say that he doesn't
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: go to one of those spots, because, like, if Arizona
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: has any concern with the injury history of Will Johnson,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: They're gonna look at Johnny Barron and go, He's clean
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: as a whistle, there's no health concerns whatsoever. And he's
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: more physical, he's more versatile, he could play outside. That
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: fits us a little bit better. So I think that's
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: why Baron would maybe go a little bit before Will Johnson.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Interesting, I'm so torn on So I think the idea
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: of Johnson falling is very legitimate with the things you mentioned, right,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: and you add in maybe like the twenty twenty four
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: table wasn't great, and maybe if they do, if teams
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: are doing the player interviews, maybe like, again, this is
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: all I am completely speculating. Don't want anybody to say like, oh,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: did you hear this, or like, why do you think this?
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Maybe he doesn't interview great. Maybe people think like, oh,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: he did turn off in twenty twenty four and we
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: don't like that. And then if you add that up
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: with the injury things. Maybe it's like, well he doesn't
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: take care of his.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Body, or maybe things unravel.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but just even off of what you
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: said alone, I think there is a shot that Johnson
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: could fall.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting to see which.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: One falls more, which one goes before the other, Because
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: for so long I just thought Will Johnson was like
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: the easy plug in CB two, like for everyone's I
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: don't I avoid everyone's rankings until I've completed my own.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: The most I talk rankings with anyone's purely Yes, it's
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: purely you. And that's it, just because like I'll look
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: at somebody and I'll ask you questions that we just talked, Paul, Like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: I literally avoid anything and everything.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I avoid your guide, I avoid your tweets, I avoid everyone.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I put my head in the sand. But I just
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: assumed Hunter one, Johnson two, done and dusted. But I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, Johnson could fall like a little bit.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: There's a chance, Baron, I like so much. But as
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you already like alluded to and mentioned, I wonder my
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: thought is he could fall a bit more? You could
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: make the case that he could fall.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I'm speaking on both sides of my mouth. Here that
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: he could fall you know, pass Johnson or be picked
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: ahead of him because of the versatility, And I wonder
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: do teams see that as a boon and be like, oh,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: we want to use this guy you know the Brian
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Branch compas tremendous. Do we want to use him as
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: this apex player, dime linebacker you know, hook curl defender
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: like spinner type of role who can cover tight ends
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: and do all this stuff or do teams view him
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: as a true outside corner and then going from there,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: which one.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Fits better for most of the teams.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I feel like having that type of versatile role narrows
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: the scope of what teams could grab him, where if
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: he's just a true outside corner, it increases the odds
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: that okay, like because a corner is a corner. Yes,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: certain teams have archetypes and benchmarks that they like to hit,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: but a corner will take a guy whereas Baron. I
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: feel like, do teams need that type of role? Do
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: they want that type of role? And if they're not
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: viewing him as an outside corner, then he could fall further.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: And I just think that's such an interesting question because
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: for me, For me, I've got Baron a CB three
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: and Johnson is CB two, And as we've gotten a closer,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, could Baron go ahead?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Could Baron fall into the twenties? Could fall into the twenties,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And there's all these like different questions of like who
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: falls and why based on how the board falls and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: how these guys are viewed. Yeah, I guess, I guess
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: The big question to that is, just like, all right,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: if Johnson and Baron aren't going there, what's going in
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: front of them? Like, we're not gonna see a run
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: on quarterbacks. We know that there's maybe two in the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: top ten, and shad Or if he doesn't go to
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the Giants at three, where's he going? Is it the Saints?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And if not, now he's falling and now we only
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: have one quarterback. We're gonna see a push for offensive tackles.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I think I think we're gonna see both tight ends
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: go within the top twenty.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, maybe do we get so if we're paying
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: if we're playing the Bills, say the Bills are at thirty,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: do we get two running backs in the top twenty eight?
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Do we get Gentee and Hampton?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: It's possible, I mean and if it's not Hampton, is
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: it Judkins? I mean there seems to be like like
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that late buzz for him. How many receivers do we get?
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: That's actually they ad like that's the big question, like
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: how many receivers do we get? Because I think the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: corners will start going at some point and then it's like,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: all right now the Bills, if they want their guy,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make that move because I'm fully
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: set the Bills are taking a corner. Like I could
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: be wrong, I haven't heard anything or whatever, but like
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: just looking at the way teams have constructed the rosters
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and and have attacked free agency. I know they brought
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: back Benford and it gave them the extension and all that,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: but like this is a team that needs to get
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: another corner.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: The only way that for me, the only way the
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Bills don't go corner at thirty is if there's just
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: like a run which like six corners go in the
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: top twenty nine. And that means like uh oh, Derek
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Harmon or uh oh, some edge we really like fell,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: or there's or Malachi Starks fell. Because of that, like
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: there's got to be some run on corner that prevents
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: them from taking a corner. Yeah, because somebody of great
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: value with some other spot fell exactly.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: But this is like you said, they got two second
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: round picks. It's easy for them to piece thirty and
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: fifty six, thirty and sixty two and get up to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: let's just say Minnesota for example, at twenty fourth. They
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: have four picks in this draft, like they are. The
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: cupboard is bear there and they need help defensively do
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: but they could move back to thirty. They could take
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Maxwell Harrison at thirty and Minnesota goes up, or Minnesota
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Buffalo goes up and gets Trey Amos, they get Johnny
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: barn Will Johnson. I mean, I look at Will Johnson.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Does he get past Harball and the Chargers? Does he
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: get past Seattle and their coach who was the defensive
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: coordinator at Michigan you know years ago over yeah what
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: two three years ago?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: You have McDonald.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like Will Johnson and him might have some rapport.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: So it just hard for me to say, like, Will
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Johnson's gonna get past twenty two again. I see him slipping.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But I just I look at these teams and the
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: teams and I just how do they pass on these
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: talented guys, like you said, CB two, CB three, These
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: are top fifteen, top sixteen players in the draft in
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a draft that I don't think is very good overall.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's a good corner draft, but I don't
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: think it's a good draft overall. So I think teams
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: are going to kind of force their hand and just
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: take that best player, best corner, best defender on the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: board at that time.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Oh Man Draft chess extast Tuesday A prit Yeah you're
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: just say. That's why I think what makes this first
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: round really interesting because there's no okay, you know this
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: team is taking this guy. Okay, you know this wide
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: receiver class is crazy, so we know like these receivers
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: are going or whatever. Like there's so like you, there's
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: so many I mean, whereas Charles put you said, non
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: including Travis Hunter, Like over under two point five wide
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: receivers in the first you could play this game with
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: like offensive line, edge, defensive tackle, like safety, like there's
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: so many back yes questions and bear at all these positions.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of unknown that I think makes Round
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: one pretty exciting and then obviously has a huge dominal
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: effect for what happens going to the bills at thirty,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: and I think from a corner perspective, yeah, kind of
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: putting the class into frame, and then Baron and Johnson
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: or Johnson Baron however anybody has them viewed, kind of
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: starts that first tier. I think one hundred, you know,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: he's got his tier. Johnson maybe for some is also
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: in that tier. But I think those three comprise that,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: and then you start to have that trickle down to
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: that conversation piece. And who knows, maybe if some guys
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: aren't getting injured this past year, maybe that top three
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: looks a little different. Maybe it still does for teams.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Who knows. But Russell, let's pivot here, Oh go ahead.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: No, I was just gonna we're gonna pivot. I was
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: just gonna add, like I think right now, sixteen days out,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: it's the big overthought process and like it's all gonna
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: just fall right back into the general place that we
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: thought it was months ago. Like we're Luther Burden's gonna
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: go in the first round. Teed McMillan's going in the
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: first round. A Mecca Bouquet is going to go in
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the first round. Should or Sanders going three, three or nine?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You know, and then maybe Dart or mill Row's a
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: late dart no pun intended in the back end of
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the first round, you know, and like it's just all
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: going to be exactly what we thought. And that's why
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like kind of good about the way that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: my board has been set up, because I'm like, dude,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I might be hitting this thing nail on the head,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: like just the way that it's and I'm not doing
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: it on purpose, It's just the way the grades fell.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is this might turn out to
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: be pretty good. But we can pivot, pivot, pivot, pivot,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: like friends pivot.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I love that pivot carrying the couch up the stairs
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: that's happened to me in New York apartments. I sympathize
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: and empathize so much with that scene. Man, I didn't.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: And then to get my couch in my one apartment,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: we had to take the door off the hinges, and
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: like the it was magnetic locks and this super heavy door.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Oh Man emphasized that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: All right, So round one corner targets for the bills,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: as we talked about in you know, the intro and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: kind of opening thoughts segment of this episode.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: The Bills have pick thirty in round one. So what
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Russ and I are going to do is discuss some
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: players that if we you know, where the Bills we
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: would take there, or we think the Bills should target
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: or take at pick thirty. We try to keep it
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: each between like one and three players. I don't know
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Russ's answer, He doesn't know, mind, We don't know that
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: for the entirety of that episode. We could have the
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: exact same guy or guys picked.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Who knows.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: But this is all based on the odds of this.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: You know, these this player or players being available at
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: pick thirty, their individual skill sets, their traits, then tying
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: into our evaluations of them their scheme fit with the Bills.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: How all that coalesces into one? Russ, what do you
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: got for you know, round one corner targets or target
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: depending on how you got it laid out.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'll probably talk about two guys in specific,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about one turn it back over to you.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: If you got a guy, you know, I don't want
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to steal the thunder here, and you know, looking at
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Baron and Johnson, I think we kind of made our point,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: like these are probably guys they trade up for we
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna fall there to thirty, but one guy,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be there. And I'm just really
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: intrigued by him because like I want to love his
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: but then I don't love his game, but I still
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: like his game. Like it's very like kind of like
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: what's the wind blowing? This is how I feel about him,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: but it's it's Shevon Revel, you know, from East Carolina. Like,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's really intriguing. I think you're not reaching
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: for him at thirty because I don't think you're gonna
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: get him at fifty six or sixty two or whatever
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: those second round picks are. He's the thirtieth overall player
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: on my board, and so some people might say that's
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: a reach, But to me, what is he?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: What is he?
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Corner for you?
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Corner four or five?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Let me scroll, let me scroll, let me scroll, let
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: me scroll, let me scroll. I should just pull up
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a scouting report, which is what I'm doing.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I love that you went first because what I did
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: is I scrolled to where he is for my evaluation
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: so that way I could speak on him and I
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: didn't have to do the live scrolling like you.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Had to do right now. Yeah, well I should have
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: wrote it down in like because I wrote him out
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: as you know what my answer was. But he's CB
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: six for me, so I got five corners ranked ahead
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: of him. Kind of tells people where I'm at with
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the corner class, like I've got six or seven in
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the top forty. So I like it. Yeah, but yeah,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I mean he's just like if he's not gonna be
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: available in sac round, like there's just no way. Like
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: his tape in twenty twenty three was really sad.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I feel like he doesn't get past like forty, Like
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: early two is like the floor for where he goes right.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Like you look at the Raiders at thirty six thirty seven.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I just did a radio show in California and it's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: like a bunch of ra bunch of I know, radio rescue.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Radio, but West Coast time changing time zones. Sorry Marty
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Janetty on the radio.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Look at me xo X so we didn't reference it yet.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: But which by the way, if anybody wants to know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: me and Anthony will randomly text each other during the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: week and just quote Joe Dirt randomly, just fifteen lines
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: or rip them off and move on with our day
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and it brightens my day. It genuinely does. Like I'll
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: have a crap day and I'll be like xo x.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: But anyways, my wife's hearing that she's gonna be really
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: bad at me. Where this is off the rails. This
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: is maybe the worst show we've done this. I am
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: there not professional, you know, it's funny, and so there's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: so much there's gonna be so much good like evaluation
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: talk mixed into all this, and there's gonna be people
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: are gonna tune in and see like Joe dirt and
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: wrestling quotes and be like, oh, there's no football talk here.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: It's like, no, you're gonna miss out on so much.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah no. But like I said, he's not
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be available. I think the like the Raiders have
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: picked thirty seven, he would make a lot of sense
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: for them. They need a corner, so if they get
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: genty and then him, but like with him, he's he's
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: a physical corner. Don't don't put it, okay, I'm just
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: pulling up comments and you don't have to just keep
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I saw Dorian strong and I'm gonna get mad. I'm
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: just bringing up bringing up comments that are you know,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: thoughtful from oh cham what people like? You don't have
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to stop keep going, We're good. But Revel is a
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: physical corner with some really great length. In my in
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: my Scotting report, I summarized him as a player that
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: is a well rounded defender that suffocates the opposition, because
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that's what it feels like, like there's potential for him
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to be an impactful starter, like right away if he's healthy,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and that's like we're assuming if he's healthy. I like
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: when he's using his technique and coverage, he just like
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: seems to be in like that best position possible to
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: make a play whenever he's doing it, like he just
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: undercuts those throws and picks off the quarterback left and
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: right or breaks up the pass. But I love the
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: way he can play press man. He'll turn and cover
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: up receivers like like a blanket. It's impressive. He looks
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a bit tight in the hips. We've talked about this,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: like when he turns and pushes vertically, just like really
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: high cut. But it's hard to deny a player that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: six two one ninety four almost thirty three inch arms,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Like he's got almost longer arms than will Campbell, which again,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I think Campbell's a tackle. I'm not going to go
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: down that road. But yeah, I like Revel, I really do.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that can be a starter,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and I think it's perfect to pair him up with
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: like a player like Benford. I think they would compliment
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: each other really well. So if if I had to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: start with a guy, that would be the player I
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: would start with at thirty fair I no surprise, I
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: have someone ahead of him, but I'll talk about him first,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: just so we can make this seamless.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: So and also too so I do a lot of
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: digging on name for NOA. I've heard that his name
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: that h and his first name is a lie. I've
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: heard that it's his name is Savone Revel.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say every time I.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Thought it was chevon Revel, chevon Revel, so I'm gonna
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: go with I'm not even gonna say the first name,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: but it's Savone Revel. Apparently I'm gonna keep going with
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Revel on the back end. Yeah, I'm just throwing that
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: out there. I'd like him, and I do.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I do like him.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: I want to preface that preface what I'm about to
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: say by saying that the thing that bothers me. And
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: you know I talked about a bit and you alluded
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: to it. And this isn't just for corner, but really
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: any position where you need kind of flexibility, which is
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: kind of all of them guys that are high cut
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: scare me so And for for those who don't know
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: what high cut means, like shorter torso, so high cut
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: like long legs, shorter type of torso. And because he's
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: high cut, he just plays kind of high in his movements,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: like high in his pedal. When you know when he's
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: trying to drive on the ball, there's not a lot
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: of hip sync. He has to do it with his feet.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: There's a good a good play U forget who it's against.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it's from twenty twenty four where someone runs
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: like a deep comeback on him and it takes him
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: a second to get out of his like pedal and
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: drive on the ball. But then the quarterback's a little
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: late and that plus his stride and his speed and
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: his arm length allows him to get a PBu like
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: towards the sideline. You just see the length and the
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: speed and the stride show up kind of immediately. And
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I think his benefit is that length and that overall size.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: You know, just kind of going through my notes, so
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I wrote the initial of the negative high cut high
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: in his back pedal when he's in bail. He doesn't
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: sink his hips to drive on the ball. When he drives,
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: it's due mainly to footwork, and he has good feet.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: He's got the length and the feet to play press.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: He likes to go with the two hand jam, which
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I hate because two hand jams can lock your hips,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: especially for a dude that's high cut right yep, even worse.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: And then I wrote a slashes here like I wrote
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: being high cut slash, longer legs slash. Also maybe some
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: hip stiffness also will make him vulnerable when going with
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: soft shoe press or mirroring. I think in order to
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: be like a press corner, he needs to be a
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: true press jam type of corner.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think he.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Has the lower body build to be a mirror match
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: type of dude. In that spot off the release, I
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: like it. He's a willing tackler, very willing and run support.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: He sound as a blitzer sound in his rung fits.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: He brings his body and he wraps up. I like
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: that physic physical aspect, so you see it in coverage.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: You see it against the run, good recovery speed, ability
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: to close and run down versus the pass and the
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: run when he opens it up. Really good long stride
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: that I think what the six against app State this
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: year really shows it. Dude runs the overs yep and
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: he's just like he's just chillin' in trail and waits
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: for the ball to get thrown.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Is like there it is, and like sprints.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Picks it, houses it like you can tell, yeah, he's
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: coasting and baiting. And then because he does have speed,
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: but the stride like what he really gets going. You'll
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: watch him chase guys down from the opposite sideline because
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: it's that speed plus that stride, Like it's really nice.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: A lot of Cover three for him at East Carolina
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: and then just single covered in general, whether it's man
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: or you know that single side on cover three. Also
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: East Carolina played a bunch of Cover three cloud, which
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: I think is cool, like not Cover two, actual Cover
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: three cloud which you don't see a ton, so you'll
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: see him get work as a cloud corner. He's got
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: a good field for zone underneath and that tackling ability
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: does play. He's got the speed and stride to stay
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: in phase.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: This is one for me too.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: That's kind of a negative mix with the positive the
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: speed and the stride to stay in phase on go balls.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: But he can be better locating the ball downfield and
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: making plays on it. For a guy that's in phase
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: as much as he is downfield the ball, tracking end
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: or plays on the ball could improve. Good pressman corner,
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: left or right side, field or boundary does not matter.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: I also like how he uses the boundary as a defender,
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: as a help defender to squeeze wide receivers in their stem.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: You will see him.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Turn and when he does try to locate the football,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: and then he's just gently nudging that guy towards the sideline,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: squeezing that space, suffocating him a little bit.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I like what he does in terms of just being
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: a an overall like airspace constrictor restrictors. I do like him.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I have to finalize where I have to finalize what
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: my corner rankings are after the top three, well after
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: kind of my top four. I know whom I see
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: before is which I'll talk about him next after you go.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: But I would have same guy fair, I would have
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: just fact out of why I put it. I would
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: have no problem with Ravelvie and the guy at thirty.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: And to your point, I think if they do go
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: with a lot of these corners we're talking about, none
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: of these guys that we're talking about for thirty are
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: going to be there at fifty six or sixty two,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: like they're not. Like then you're playing a whole different game,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: which we're going to talk about as we get into
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: the next segment. But yeah, I would have no problem.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: I do have personal worries and some questions because of
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: the high cut, and I just think also too, like
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: because he's high cut, you can see guys create separation
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: again him on their release but also on their breaks
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: because he doesn't have that ability to close that space
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: right away off the break, but he can recover and
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: make up ground and mitigate that because he's got a
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: long stride, long arms, and he's fast. But that stiffness
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: just or not stiffness that I think, Yeah, like you said,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: there is some stiffness there, but it's more just that
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: high cut and how it doesn't allow him to bend
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: in flexibility that I normally like. But he can mitigate it.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Even it does, you know, create some separation issues and
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: then some of the ball tracking downfield. But I mean,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: this is the dude who's built like a prototypical CB one,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: and I think I think he can his ceiling is
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: to be like a CB one in this league.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Dude, if the Legion of Doom was still a thing,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: he's going to seattle all day long at eighteen like that.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: But it's not. I mean, still go there, I guess.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, you never know, there's always surprises. But to
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: since he didn't test, just to kind of get people
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: at home an idea of like where he tested as
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: a track and field guy. You know, he ran it
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: in high school. His pr in the fifty five meter dash.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I couldn't find it for the hundred meter dash, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: for five meter dash it was six point nine seconds,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: so not overly fast, but you know, you add an
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: extra fifteen yards that's obviously going to add a little
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: bit to his time. So probably if I had a guess,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: probably in that sub four or five range. Just guessing,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: but I could be wrong there.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like he's like a four, like a
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: like a four to four seven yeah, right, or eight somewhere.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had like an interesting journey too, Like
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: he was a Juco kid. He went to Louisbourg College
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: in North Carolina after high school. The whole season got
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: canceled because of COVID, So he'll be a little bit
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: older twenty three years old. There's other corners that are
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: certainly younger. But yeah, I couldn't agree more with you
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: know a lot of your evaluation there. And I think
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: he's a guy that again there's some some concerns, but
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I think if he was to go to a place
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: that maybe irons out those concerns, I think maybe that
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: is Buffalo, just simply because of how well verse they
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: are at developing some of his defensive talents.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: So yeah, and and again he's in the mold. Everything
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: for me for a corner in this draft is I
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: want guys.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: And I've said this to a while. I actually I
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: should have said this earlier, but I've said it throughout
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the off season so much. The guys I'm.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Looking for are airspace constrictors or restrictors, Guys that just
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: squeeze windows and squeeze air, and they could do it
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: in variety ways. You have great anticipation or route recognition,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: the ability to like have a quick trigger or short
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: area burst or an ideal for me. It's some of
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: that mixed with I want guys who can play press,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: and I want guys who could stay in phase and
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: stay in the hip pocketed dudes, but not to the
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: point where they're unable to play zone and they're unable
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: to function in that world in terms of passing off
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: and collecting and reading route distributions and concepts.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: And all of that.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: And yeah, Revel is definitely in them. Would have no
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: qualms with him at thirty. Who else you got for
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: CB trigger for the Bills in round one.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with my CB four. I'm not gonna
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: steal potentially your CB three or four because I know
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: who you want to talk about it, and I'm gonna
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: let you talk about them, and maybe I'll piggyback a
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: little bit off of it, but I'll I'll say, Azire
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Thomas from Florida State have come of sit. Wait, so
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Thomas is your cbe who then CEB four thirtyeth Thomas
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: enough thirtieth overall player and like I kind of joked
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: when they made some moves like in the offseason with
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the corners and stuff like that. I'm like, Ozre Thomas,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you better get on realtor and looking buffalo, like get
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: used to it, Like he just kind of screams buffalo.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: But the player you're going to talk about next is
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: who I would love to see them get. But I
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: think Thomas is somebody that's easy to fall in love
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: with when you look at his tape, especially the last
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: two seasons deflected fourteen passes recorded in an interception. There's
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a play against Notre Dame where he makes it incredibly
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: acrobatic on the Notre Dames offense is going from right
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: to left, and he's on the top sideline right correct, Yeah,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: on the top of the screen, and he just he's
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: in the wrong spot. You know, he kind of drifts,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: but he just somehow makes a play on this football
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and he breaks it up. You know. Thirty two and
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: three h three eighth into arm six one one ninety
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: seven ran a four five six forty. So I think
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: there's some pressman concerns. The long speed's certainly gonna get
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: tested vertically. Form tackling needs improvements. He tends to kind
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: of arm tackle or leave his feet too soon or
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: drop to that knee and I don't know if he's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: trying to hawk tackle or whatever he's trying to do,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: but uh, it gets a little interesting and dicey for
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: him on the perimeter. And then obviously you know as
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: a physical guy, he is a physical defender. He does
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: get a little too grabby, but I think he does
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: have the body control and the desired play strength to
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: jam receivers and knock them back, especially in the run game.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: So like if you got to you know, design screen
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: or something his way, he's going to try to blow
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: it up, but he might not always make the tackle,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: so he's going to disrupt the play, especially like at
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the point against trips, but at the same time, he
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: might not necessarily secure that tackle, So just make sure
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you have support safety help things like that, especially like
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: over the top. If he's playing you know, pressman or something,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you'll definitely maybe want to have a cover two or
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: something with help over the top. But I love the length,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: the way he can jam and redirect. He keeps his
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: on a swivel, locates the football really well, disruptive at
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the catch point. Like I mentioned, good body control, shows
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: good lateral quickness on short and intermediate routes. I think
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: there's some hesitation overall within his game though, like there's
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: times like in zone where he's hesitating a little bit,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: or in in tackling when he's there he's he's hesitating.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: But again, overall, I think there's the desired skill to
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: be a pressman, corner just an off even if off man.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: You know, I think he closes relatively well the football,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: So whether it's zone, offman, little press man, there's things
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: that's gonna get him tested. But if you can bring
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: him in and kind of redefine a skill set and
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: get him wired right. This is a guy that will
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: turn twenty one years old in July. His older brother
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: plays for the Dallas Cowboys's safety pretty much practice squad guy.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: But I think this is a guy that has experienced
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: thirty six games only thirteen starts. So still, like I mentioned,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: rough around the edges, but you're not gonna get him
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: in the second round. You're gonna have to take him
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: here at thirty. See, he's a good one who stually
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: hold them before before I pick it back. And I
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: don't want to answer this from Claude. I was gonna
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: type in the chap, but I thought it was good.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Claude says ant are most of the best CBS high cut.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: He says Prime, Certain, Sauce and Revus so well, I
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily classify Prime as like high cut or Certain
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: or Revus Sauce a little bit, but it's more of
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: you can be high cut but still have hip sync
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: or fast feet, yeah, or fast feet, like there's different
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: ways to mitigate it.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: And I think my thing with Ravel is he's high cut.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: And also there's not a lot of like bend or
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: dip or sink in that lower body, So you can
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: be high cut or have longer legs, but still have
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: that flexibility and fluiding in your lower body like Certain
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: has that. Revis I wouldn't classify as high cut. He's
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: more just kind of an evenly proportioned type of dude.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Sauce I think is fair like Sauce is more of
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: a high cut guy, long legs, long arms. But again
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: he's a good example of you can be high cut
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: and still be kind of a lockdown dude, and you
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: just do it in different ways and use your strengths
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: to mitigate some of the various opportunity, which again I
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: think Revel can but yea, I wouldn't necessarily classify Sir
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: tan and Reeves as high cut or prime, and Prime
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: was just such an amazing athlete from a flexibility standpoint
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: to speed standpoint.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: He cold mitigate so many things. A really good question, Claude,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I like where your heads at? That's a good question.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: So for me with Thomas, Thomas annoys the hell out
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: of me because he and you alluded to it at
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: the end. Here he's a guy I would much prefer
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: at fifty six or sixty two. I don't think he'll
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: be there so like at thirty for me, and again
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: I have to solidify my rankings. He's not not in
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: my top five. But he's a guy who I wouldn't
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: be disappointed if they took at thirty, but someone who
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: I think is better suity to go like thirty five
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: to fifty, and I think that's where he'll go, and
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: you're not gonna get him at fifty six. Like if
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: there's a world where against there's a run on corners
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: or something any I don't know, anything happens and someone
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: in another spot falls and then you end up with
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Thomas at fifty six or sixty two. I think like
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: that gets me ex because that means you probably got
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: a great value at thirty, like someone fell at some
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: other spot of need. So I wouldn't hate the idea
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: of Thomas at thirty. I do have him pegged as
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: more of like a second round type of dude, but again,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: you're taking second round dudes at the back end of
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: round one, and rankings differ and so on.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: And so forth.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: To your point, your evaluation I agree with actually a
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: good chunk of it. It's so funny too, Like that's
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: what makes like evaluation so fun Like so many of
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: the things that you said, all.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Pretty much all of it I agree with, like all
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: of it, and I have it.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: But then like you have him as your c before
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: and I don't, And it's just so funny to like
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: it in a good way, Like it's just that's what
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: makes these conversations so far with someone whose evaluation and
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: voice I trust like yours. But he's another dude in
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: the in the vein that we talked about kind of
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: with ravel length size. But what's nice with Thomas the
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: fluidity for that size.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: He's got good flexibility in the body, Like you look
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: at him and he's another guy.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: When I initially saw the measurements. You know, six one
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: and a half which is eighty four percentile for one
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: hundred and ninety seven pounds which is forty seven percent
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: half weight. So you're looking at dude, he's like six
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: one two hundred, Like that's a big corner. And so
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: anytime I see those dudes, I'm like, Okay, how stiff
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: is he gonna be? And he's not. Like it's just
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: good fluidity, willing tackler. Not the most sound or the
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: most physical type of type of tackler, which I would
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: like considering he's bigger. But if the trade off is
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: a little worse of a tackler for being more fluid
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: with the size, I think that's a fair trade off.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: I think he's got a really good trail technique when
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: in man, I like him at the collision point. He'll
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: create a collision point in trail and then he can
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: ride the hip and he has the athleticism and the
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: fluidity to stay in phase. I do think he can
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: be better in staying connected on breaks with wide receivers.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Guys will get away from him a little bit, So
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: kind of staying in phase on breaks is something I
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: would like to see him get better at I think
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: he's at his best when getting hands on wide receivers
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: early in their stem. I want to see him use
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: his length and frame and body to obstruct receivers.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: As much as he can.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Again, you've got that length and size and frame and
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: fluidity and athleticism. But to your point, you talk about
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: his experience and some of like the growing that he
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: still can do. I think he's somebody that is and
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say this in a bad way
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: because I feel like people here and they think, oh,
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: that sucks. I think he is more project than like
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: immediate impact. But I think he's a guy that you
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: could take at thirty. He battles, maybe wins your CB two,
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: and then you're sitting here maybe next year or two
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: years from now, having the conversation of like, oh man,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: that was a really great pick because of what he
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: turned into and what he blossomed into. I do think
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: he's a little grabby at points, like you mentioned, but
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: again that's something that I think anytime you're a press
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: corner and you're bigger, you're gonna have some grabbiness issues.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: And I think that it's just a matter of can
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: you clean it up. Can your coaches help you clean
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: that up? But yeah, I he's somebody who I have
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: tab more for the second. But I can understand very
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: much if the Bills or even if someone else took
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: him at the end of round one or even early
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: in round two. The length plays, the athleticism and the
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: fluidity plays, and he makes some really great plays on
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: the ball, like he talked about.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the only thing that really I don't
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: want to say saved him in my evaluation was just
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: like revel is coming off the torn acl and I
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: like have that concern. And then we mentioned the high
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: cut stuff. So it was like, well, once I got
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: to the next kind of tier, because once I got
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: through Baron and Amos, and I might I actually might
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: not have this number, right, I might have jacked it up.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: He might actually be my CB five now that I
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: think about it, m M, because I have I have
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: it's Amos. So that's what I'm about to talk about.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: That's why I thought you had his CB four at first. Yeah,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I have it marked wrong. I have BARONESS three and
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: good thing we caught this. Yeah, yeah, I'm an idiot.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: That's on me. Well, yeah, he's my TV five, So whatever, Apple, whatever,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: And so that's so.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: That actually kind of aligned the way mine is shaking
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: out right now. I've got Hunter Johnson, Baron Amos at four,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Revel at five, and then six through like eleven is
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: a dog fight for me, and I can't figure out
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: how to solidify it. But Thomas could be six, Harston
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: could be six.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's there's a lot of that. That's fair.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Oh interesting. So do you want to talk about it?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: You want keep talk about Thomas? You want to talk
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: about almost Well, I was gonna throw up a kind
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: of a scenario for you and kind of get the
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: chat thinking, or get you thinking. You know, let's say
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: you pass on the corner at thirty and hypothetical he's
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: you know, Thomas is sitting there at forty six, Atlanta's
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: got picked forty six. We just talked about not a
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: lot of draft capital, things like that. I don't know
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: if you would have to part ways with fifty six
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: and sixty two, But what if you parted with like
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: fifty six and I don't know, and a round four
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: pick yeah, one oh nine and something next year? I
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: don't Maybe I'm giving up way too much. I don't
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: have the trade value chart in front of me, but
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: you give up that to get up to forty six
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: and you take an Azara Thomas. Would you be okay
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: with that? Depending on who they took at thirty.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would be okay with that. Like, I think
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: that gets you your CB two where who fits what
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: you want schematically and has the traits and the tools
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: that you would like. And again my thought is there,
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: if you're doing that, that means you probably ended up
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: with all that means at thirty you probably went with
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: Derek Harmon or Darius Alexander or TYLERK William like some
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: sweet defensive tackle or Malachi Starks.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Or dude, if Malachi Starks is at thirty and he
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't go at twenty eight, I'm driving a buffalo. I'm
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: gonna be mad. Somebody really mad like that.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Would that to me would mean like somebody sick fell
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: and okay, I gom okay, kind of pulling that trigger.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: And again I think that's a fair spot. I don't think.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Again, I don't have the chart in front of my
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: in front of me, but I would think like if
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: they moved up from like fifty six to that falcons
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: pick it, maybe.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: It costs you. I really think if they could do
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: that for like a fourth this year, they have so
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: many four they have multiple fours, they have multiple fives,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: like maybe cost your four and five. You're only not
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: moving up too many spots.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, wouldn't that type of deal.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it could get It would definitely get done because
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: pick forty six is four to forty on the trade
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: value chart. As far as points, Buffalo second round pick
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: at fifty six is three forty. If you add it
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: in pick one oh nine, that's seventy six points. You
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: might have to give up a fourth next year, or
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I guess you could give up an additional fourth this
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: year as well. I don't know. They've got so much
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: capital like they would be okay, I think with whatever
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: they decided to do.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: And that's my thought, like there's so much Day three capital,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: like I don't mind again, and I'm sure most teams
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: would say this, like I have no problem cashing in
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: some of my Day three chips to get more Day
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: two chips. It's just harder in terms of that's like
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: trying to trade all like the crap on your bench
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: in Fantasy for like a starter on someone else's. It's
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: like I don't want your backup tight end and your
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: two backup running backs for my star receiver.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: But in the trade value world, who knows?
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: So do you want so? Now, do you want to
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: talk about.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Another guy here around one? Well, I don't know. Did
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about it or you want me
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: to talk about him? Oh?
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: You can lead with a.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a thousand percent talking about tray a
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: most regardless of if you talk about him or not.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Like you're the guest, so you could one thousand percent
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: go first. All right, well the next guy and I'll
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: move on from round one guys. But uh, Trey Amos
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: to me, I mean, I don't know if he's gonna
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: even be there at thirty I think twenty. It's crazy
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that we've gotten to this spot where, not to interrupt,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: you would like I'm gonna rupt you. I guess no,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: you're fine.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: I've I've been so high on him since before the combine.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like to watch the conversation of like
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: me talk about him, people be like, that's way too high.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: He's not around one guy, not around one guy. And
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: now we're at the conversation where a lot of people
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: are like he might not be there at thirty. It's
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: been such a like a good feeling for me to
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: know that, like the community and like Nashally, like Daniel
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah mock him to the packers, and like these guys
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: are kind of seeing what I saw organically.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: But it's so disappointed because I was like, this is
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: a lock at thirty. I'm like, oh, now he might
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: go before that.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: It's so gut wredsheet.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, but you watch him. He's a no brainer man.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Four four to three in the forty, which was my only.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Question really on tape, like does he have long speed?
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: And then he runs a four to four to three
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: at the combine.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Right, like if you're caught on the thirty two and
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: a half inch vertical. Okay, he just maybe wasn't explosive
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: at that point during the combine. I mean, that was
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: maybe one of the it might've been one of the
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: last you know, things that he did. I don't know.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: It's also weird too, because he's got that so that vertical,
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: like you mentioned, twelve percent out for that, but then
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: for the broad jump, he's a seventy seven percent out,
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: which is also measuring explosion.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: It was the weirdest, like did you slip and fall
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: in your art? Like what happened to you? I think
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: it's one of those like where depending on the point
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: of the day, like you're just kind of you're maybe
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: a little gassed, you know, like you're using it all
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: to around the forty You're using everything you can for
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the short shuttle or three cone or on the field
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: drills or whatever. So who knows, but you just watch
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: him on tape. Man, he's so fluid. He is just
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: an easy evaluation in my opinion, the way he can
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: mirror receivers with control and with ease. He plays under control,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: He's got good bird to click and close, he works
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: his hands through the catch point. He looks comfortable playing press. Man,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: you're gonna love this. I mean, this is what you're
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: talking about all the time when you when we're talking
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: about him, of how he transitions nicely from one route
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: to the to the other, playing in zone, disciplined eyes.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I think form tackling could use some improvements, fighting off
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: some blocks at times. I think there's times that maybe
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: he reveals his chest too much when working vertically kind
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: of takes him off tracks. So like you know, you
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: get a little grabby downfield with the receiver, they're able
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: to create a little separation there. But yeah, he's he's
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: got a very interesting journey, right like he played it.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: He went to Ole, Miss kind of finished his career,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: but he started at Louisiana, went to Alabama.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: Alabama good Bama tape has some fun Bama tape at times.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he played in fourteen games but only
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: had one start, just less than ideal. But yeah, this guy,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I just think is one of the easier evaluations top
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: twenty player for me, and I I think when you
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: look at just the overall you know, first round, Seattle
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: at eighteen, Arizona at sixteen, went you know, Atlanta at fifteen,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Like I could see it, and there's like a common thought.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I guess, like maybe he's very comparable to AJ Terrell,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: which I can see. But at the same time, like,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: and I'm not a pro comp guy. I hate pro comps,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: but I do like getting like a little vibe sometimes,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: and you know, there were times like I'd watch him
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, he kind of reminds me like
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Darius Slay and just like there's kind of that to
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: his game, and I wasn't Darius Slay's biggest supporter was
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: when he was in Detroit, more so because he talked
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of trash and didn't always back it up
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: aka getting you know, just beat up on by Damarius
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Thomas on Monday Night Football. I'm not salty about it.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Uh over it? Yeah right? But no, I like Trey
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Amos is a perfect fit in Green Bay. He's the
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Jay R Alexander replacement for them. So uh, I think
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: he's gone, But if he's at any way in striking distance,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: package those picks and go get your boy, because he
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: would be a home run for Buffalo at thirty or
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: moving up. Yeah, he's.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: I've flirted with the idea of putting him as CB three,
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: Like that's how much I've just liked his game, and
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: I've got I've told you this too, Like when I
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: get bored watching other like players, not even corners, like
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: other players at other positions, It'll be like late and
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: I'm like bored of watching someone else, Like I'll go
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: back and watch another tray a most game that like
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: I haven't watched yet, And so I pretty much watched
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: everything for like his twenty twenty four like season, and
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: he again in that mold of like an airspace constrictor.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: But it's a combination of how he does it, so
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: he's not overly long. You know, thirty one in a
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: quarter inch arms, which is forty first percent out for corners.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: So he does have some length, but he's not overly long.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: But his ability to stay in phase through a combination
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: of footwork and arm length is just what gets me
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: so much. And you pair that with how comfortable and
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: effective he is impressed both soft shoe and true. Now
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: he is more of a soft shoe corner, that type
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: of mirroring type of guy, because he's got the feet
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: for it and he's got the athleticism for it.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: But he will jam you. I do like when he
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: you know, when he turns and runs. Impressed.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: Man, he has that textbook like he looks to stab
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: that near hip or that near shoulder when he turns
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: and he runs. With this guy, he can play left side,
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: right side, boundary or field. You talk about one of
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: the things I really like the transitions and his ability
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: how adept he is at passing off and collecting from
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: the route distribution.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: This what I'm gonna explain.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: This may seem so simple, but like he's the corner
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: to the solo receiver side in a three by one,
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: so he's only got one one pass catching option to
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: his side. His man runs a drag to the other
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: side of the field. He drops into his coverage. I
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: think it's cover four on this play. He drops, but
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: his man runs a drag.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: So what does he do.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: He gets his eyes to the three wide receiver side.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: He sees a post coming from the number three on
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: the other side, So what does he do. He works
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: his way and he takes away the post. And you
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: see that like his ability. We talk about it with
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: offensive lineman. You don't know this, like you don't have
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: anything to do.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: What do you do?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: You find work and all of a sudden you crush
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: somebody who's you know, you're a guard. You find some work.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: You crush the edge who's working on your right tackle.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: His ability to find work in coverage is consistent and
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: his ability to you know, we talk about the man
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: coverage or the match coverage pieces all the time, you know,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: match carry deliver. His ability to carry somebody or deliver
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: them to his partner and then fall off and collect
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: the next guy that's come in into his space. His
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: ability to speed turn and carry someone and see someone
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: like on a rail route in his periphery and speed
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: turn and then get and make a play on the ball.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: He did that multiple times in twenty twenty four, and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: I think that shows his zone and his spatial awareness,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: the ability to locate the football make plays on it.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: You know, he can locate the football downfield and make
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: a play, or he can read the wide receiver's hands
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: and body language and punch through while keeping his eyes
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: locked on them. I think he's somebody who can play catchman, bail,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: true press, soft shoe, or offman. I did initially on
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: the tape have questions big My biggest questions were the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: long speed, which he essentially kind of you know, put
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: to bed with running that forty time, and I haven't
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: seen any like agility testing from it, like the three
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: cone stuff. For I did have some change of direction
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: questions for him for him at times, and maybe that's
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: what like ties into the vert I'm like, okay, he's
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: not maybe he's not the most explosive guy, but he's
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: got good, clean feet and he's got good movement. So
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: it's not something that I was like, this isn't gonna
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: play but my biggest questions were some change of direction
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: and some long speed stuff like you mentioned giving up
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: your chest a little bit. He does have good size,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: but letting guys get into his body a little bit.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: As a tackler, I like that he You know, he
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: is a willing tackler, but he is more of a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: He's more of a nail than he is a hammer.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Like he's not coming up, yes, but you know he'll
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: get guys down. He's sound coming up, and it's not
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: for lack of willing. You know he can crack replace.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: He'll come up as a forced player in cloud coverage.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: Like he's good from the run defense aspect. I just
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: like him so much, and I do for a guy
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: who can play physical and play press. He's not overly grabby.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: I just think again, that ability to play press and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: also stay in phase with guys through a combination of
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: footwork and arm length. It just sets him so far apart,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: and I think he is He's the answer for the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Bills where they shifted too far to the traits with
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: Kyrie Elam. They shifted too hard to the size and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: the length and the speed and the athleticism and four
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: gone and went past all the zone awareness, spatial awareness,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: comfortability in that you don't have that with Amos. You've
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: got somebody who has the zone and the spatial awareness
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: and functionality and comfortability and capacity with somebody who is
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: comfortable and effective in man and press man in particular.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: I think he ticks so many boxes. He right now
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: is my dream scenario at pick thirty. There is another
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: dream scenario I have at thirty that isn't a corner
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: that's conversation for next week. But yeah, he's He's my
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: darling at this point and a guy that I'm pounding
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: the table before. And you shut your mouth by saying
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: that he's gonna go before thirty.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I hope he doesn't for your sake.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: But I kind of like, I love what the Lions
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: have done with like their cornerback room, But at the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: same time, I kinda wish they would have waited and
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: then set themselves up to go get a guy like
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Trey Amos, because I know he's gonna go right in
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: that range like where he was like in reaching distance
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: for them, and they're not gonna get him, and he's
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: gonna just be his stud wherever he goes. But he
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: could be the pick at thirty and if he is,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: he's a no brainer.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: I would love that and it would make my like
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: post draft episodes so easy because I have so much tape,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: so much tape on him, like I have clips.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I've got stuff saved that I haven't even posted yet,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Like I've got so many things in my notes.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he uh.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: I think that drag route you were talking about, I
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: can't remember. It might be LSU or missing Okay, yeah,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: it's a the back. I'm like, I think that's LSU.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: I think I forget who and then Lacey for LSU.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Lacy's the one who is the number
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: three on the other side who runs the post. He's
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: either the solo receiver and he runs the drag or
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: he's the three on the post. Because him and Lacy
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: were battling for a multitude of that game. He had
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: a couple of really great coverage reps on Lacy. Yeah.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: I just dig so much for Amos and I've watched
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: him against a variety of talent and teams, and yeah,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: you see him just play.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: You see the technique, play the traits, play. I would
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: welcome and then him as a pairing with Christian Benford. Like, man,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: you just set yourselves up outside for a long, long
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: while to come anybody else in your round one target category.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: No, I'm good as far as round one, I think,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: you know, Like as much as I love this corner class,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: as I kind of mentioned, once you get past the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: top six or seven players at the position, I think
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: there starts become a little bit of a drop off.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: And I say that because I'm not sold on Darien
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Porter from Iowa State whatsoever. You hate him, I don't
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: hate him. The other night you were like, I can't
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I can't watch the State. Yeah, I can't watch it, dude,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: I can't watch his freaking tape. He's six foot three,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: runs like the win, great fluidity, but he might be
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: the most least physical defender in this draft. And that
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: is just it's bad, man, Like, he just does not
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: get physical on the perimeter. And I think the league
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: is starting to change where they value these more physical
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: run defenders.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: You got to fit the run from a schematics standpoint,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: and you also have to be able to finish.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's why you know, And I know Arnold
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: slipped a little bit last year, but he was a
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: player that they really liked.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: So he was almost like a run first type of corner.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like he was a player that like the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Lions really liked and other teams really liked. So I
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: just I don't know, man, I think there's a little
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: bit of a drop off once you get past these
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: kind of top six or seven names that we talked about.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm excited to talk about what might be
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: either at fifty six or sixty two.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: I the last one that I'll mention, I'll probably actually
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: I'll save him for.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Round two because he kind of fits, uh for some conversations. Yeah,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: that's uh, I like that round one conversation. All right,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: let's pivot round two cornerback targets. And I normally mentioned this.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: I know I didn't in this episode, but a lot
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: of you folks have been doing it already. If you're
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: here joining us live, feel free to put up in
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: the chat. Who are you targeting, who you like, why,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: so on and so forth. I know people have been
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: throwing a lot of names through. I knew we were
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: organically going to talk about some of them, so I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: haven't answer them there. I know there's some other questions
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: about some.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: Day three corners. We're going to be getting to day
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: three corners, and I'm sure covering a lot of the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: guys you folks mentioned. If not, I've started a bunch
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: of these comments and we'll hit these guys. But yeah,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: if you're watching it home, let us know who you're targeting.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: Why if you hate our targets, so on and so forth,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff.
• 1:06:44
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• 1:06:45
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• 1:06:49
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• 1:06:52
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• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: All right, Russ, the floor is yours round two draft
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: target or harder gets for the Bills at the cornerback position. Yeh,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start with Maxwell Harriston out of Kentucky.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: He's my fifty fifth overall ranked player. I'm not I
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: like I like him, but then I don't because he's
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: only one hundred and eighty three pounds. I don't necessarily
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: know what you do with that. It kind of showing
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: up on tape like the thin wiry frame doesn't always
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: hold up with contact. He had the shoulder injury. It
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: kept him out, you know, somewhere between five or six
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: weeks something like that. I like the range that he has.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I like the ball skills. I like that he you know,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: kind of has that high turnover probability and and making
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: plays on the football so much juice. Yeah, there's so
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: much to like there with his athleticism thirty nine and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: a half inch vertical, ten to nine broad four two
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: eight forty. But I look at him as a guy that,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: like the speed doesn't always match. Like there's times like
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: he gets beat and I'm like, wait a minute, you're
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: for like a sub fourth three guy, Like what are
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: we doing? I thought, footwork wise, like gets crossed up
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: at times. Some of that lateral quickness that I feel
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: like he possesses isn't always there, Like he just gets lost.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: But my biggest caveat with him was just like in zone,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I felt like he played with really bad like spatial
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: awareness or i discipline at the time. I felt like
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: he like would either drift or he would like get
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: caught looking in the backfield. So he's got some things
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: to clean up. And I know, I'm like talking about
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: a player that you should target. And I'm just bashing hum,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: but I'm talking about the negatives because there are some positives.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Press defender. I think he's good there in press man,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: he's got the one so.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: Crazy for his size and frame, and you're like, oh,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: he's probably like an offer zone corner. It's like, nah, dude,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: he plays press and he's good at it.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: In battles, yeah, like he's he's a battler man. So like,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that you draft, you develop. Again,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: you're talking to number two corner. Maybe the potential will
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: be a number one. We'll see. Like I thought it
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: was interesting on my Craftable, one of the top two
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: comparisons for him were Denzel Ward and Marshawn Lattimore. I
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: don't think he plays like those guys at all. Oh
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: he did get Max Melton as well, which I loved
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: him coming out of that.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: I wish there were more play style comps on like
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: instead of just pure measurement comps because they see the
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: comp and I'm like, oh, okay, and then I'm like,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: wait a minute, they don't play like this at all.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe like DJ Turner from Michigan is
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: kind of comparably, he's he was like a one hundred
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: and eighty pound guy, but again you're talking about more
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: of like a second round pick type of players. So
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: there's a lot to like with him. I think he's
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: more a little bit more of a project, but he's
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: going to contribute. He's going to contribute at a high
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: level at some point. I think as a rookie, there's
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: some good length there, there's press coverage skills. I think
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: he can work in zone, but he's just got to
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: work on some of the awareness and where he is
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: on the field. With that, overall, we're talking about pick
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: what fifty six. I don't think you can get upset
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: if you ended up with Maxwell Harrison, Who's a guy
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: that's getting kind of that round one buzz. So I'd
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: be a little surprised if he he got in the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: first round. But again, teams do love those four to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: three guys, So maybe he ends up going a little
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: bit sooner than we think, and maybe he's the guy
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: at thirty. I don't know. I don't I don't think so.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. But again, if he's there at
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: fifty six, I think it's a guy that you would
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: definitely love to have. So he he was one the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: guy who I consider talking about to end the round
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: one segment, and for two reasons. One like you hit
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: it kind of on the head, like hey, and I'm
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: gonna get into my evaluation on him in a minute.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: But the speed, like it's just it's just so real,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: the speed and the twitch. You see it play in
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: the short area, you see it play in the long
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: speed like I mean his ten yard split is one
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: point five seconds, which is the eighty six percentile, and
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: then his four to eight forties the ninety nine percentile.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: Like it's just speed for days in the short area,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: but also from a long perspective, and you know, it
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: ties into one of his negatives, like I literally wrote,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: like will get fooled on routes and zone even on
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: vertical routes, but is able to seamlessly back in phase
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: due to athleticism and speed, And I forget. I think
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: it's is it the Texas game, Maybe it's Georgia he's playing.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: He's the outside corner to the bottom of the screen
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: tech the offense is going from right to left, and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: he opens up to the sideline thinking the receiver is
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: just gonna run a go and instead the receiver puts Georgia.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: Receiver puts it outside foot in the ground and runs
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: a post and Harriston is completely fooled and he speed turns.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: He's opened up the sideline. It's just like he's like, okay, Andy,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: speed turns closes him down in a heartbeat.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: The ball is a little late, you know. No, I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: think it's Texas because you weer throws the ball and
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, typical Quinn, you were throw He's
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: late and it's a little bit makes sense, yeah, which
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: is so terrible to me.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: But so the ball's a little late, but still the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: recovery speed like he he gets beat and calmly and
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: seamlessly just runs down this post thirty yards downfield and
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: ends up making getting a PBu. Then he gets to.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: Where the ball is, jumps up high points knocks it
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: down the easiest thing. And I was like, oh, I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: could see somebody. I could see him creeping up into
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: the back end of round one. Because of that speed,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: because of that athleticism, because of the twitch, all of it.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: Now for the Bills in particular, and I think this
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: will tie into other teams, the off the field stuff.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: I wonder if that just completely takes him off the
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: Bills board. Yeah, because it's not even just like all
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: some characters stuff like it's some not great stuff. For
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: those who don't know, you can google it, look it up.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: All that type of Star City chief. He's a chief,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: he's a chief fair.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's for I'm not even gonna make any any jokes,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I just don't think he's the kind
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: of guy that they want to swim in their pool
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: if they are if the Bills, that might be, and
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: there might be some other teams that feel that way
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: as well, So if that was gone, he honestly would
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: be a target for me with the Bills at thirty
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: even despite some of the concerns, because even like the tackling,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: the tackling is a big one that I have as well.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: He's willing.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: Guys that are willing, I think you can show improvement,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: you can coach up a little bit because he is willing.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: But you mentioned it, he's a poor TACKLEO like his
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: angles and decisions and run support as far as like
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: a fit player and a forced player, they're questionable. And
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: then because of the size and the frame, he'll miss
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: tackles but he's got forced fumbles. He's fitting inside like
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: the C gap and the B gap on inside runs,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: and he's in sticking dudes like so it's it's almost
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: this high variance of like, Wow, look at this smaller corner,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: make this tackle, and then two plays later, for the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: next three plays you're like, oh, Okay, that's what I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: thought he would tackle. Like, but he's willing and you
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: see good reps, but then you see really bad ones,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: and I think that can be coached up a little bit.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: I also think some of the recognition can be coached
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: up a little bit. And even though I think he's
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: more of a press and a man guy right now
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: than he is a true like spatial awareness let me
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: read this, you do see it and flashes like he
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: can fall off and coverage. He will bait quarterbacks and
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: he knows what his speed is, so he'll sit and
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: kind of wait and bang and pull that trigger. And
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: that's when in trigued me with him from the Bills perspective,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: and really, for any team, I just think you want
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: athleticism back there. You want speed, especially for a secondary
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: like the Bills that isn't overly athletic like Benford is
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: a legit CB one, not the most athletic type of dude.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: Taylor Rapp is in a line to start for you
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: in the secondary, not a burner, not the most athletic
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: type of dude. We'll see if Cole Bishop wins that
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: other safety spot. It will be nice to have a
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: guy on the outside who has that juice and has
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: those type of traits, And again think could be coached up,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: so I wouldn't be sur initially. I wouldn't have been
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: surprised if the Bills took a shot at him at
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: thirty or if he crept into the first round with
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: the off the field stuff. I think that knocks him
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: into the second round for teams. I wonder if it
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: knocks him off the Bills board completely, But if that
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: wasn't an issue, He's a guy that I would I
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: would be thrilled with in round two. And I do
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: think given some of the frame concerns and the tackling
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: and some of the eyes stuff that you mentioned, that
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: I'm on board with.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: He does strike me as more of a solid, a
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: very solid on two corner and a guy that I
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: would love at fifty six or sixty two, probably more
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: fifty six if not for the off the field stuff,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: which personally bothers me but also makes me think that
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: it takes him off the board. But he's got some
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: really some good tape against some good teams Texas, Georgia,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: like he does his thing.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: The Louisville tape is good. I know Louisville wasn't like
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: a baller team this year, but yeah, yeah, thought he's
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: got some good tape. Yeah, the off the field stuff
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: was why he kind of was at fifty five because
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, he's really talented, but like, for example,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna use Mike Green as a defensive end,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: like he's got fifteen tape when he wants to turn
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: it on, but he doesn't play against some of the
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: best competition. And he did turn it on, like what
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: he did eighty four tackles a defensive end. It's ridiculous.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, like there's some
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: off the field stuff there where I'm like, dude, i
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: gotta put him in the twenty range because I don't
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to burn myself here and
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: be like, yeah, he was a top ten player and
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: he's actually a pos off the field, you know, like
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: still I'm gonna play to the part of the media
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: role that I have or whatever and just go with
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: some of them.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: Now, this is why I wish we joke about it,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: like we get all the All twenty two and the
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: on field stuff. I wish we had All twenty two for,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: like the interviews at the combine or the pre draft visits,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: like I want to know, yeah, just get me, Like
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: that's part of my favorite I said it on last
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: week's episode, like some of my favorite content all year.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: Or the draft interviews that teams put out once they
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: draft a guy of like when they met with them
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: at the combine or their visit or whatever. Like that
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: stuff matters so much because that's when you get to
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: peek into who a player is and what they are,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: how smart they are, but their character, their personality. Do
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: they vibe with your coaching staff, Do you think they'll
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: vibe with your culture? Do you think they're a detriment?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: Are they good enough that they can overcome that detriment
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: you're still willing to take a swing. So much of
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: that matters. And I said it on Twitter earlier today,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: like when you get to the NFL, even when you
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: get to college, but especially when you get the higher
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: you go up, like if you're playing like top level
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: high school, and then if you're playing college and you're
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: playing in the NFL. Once you get to that spot
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: in the NFL, everyone is good at football, and they
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: all have varying levels size and athleticism and traits and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: skill sets and all this stuff. But what separates the
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: bad from the man, and the math from the good,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: and the good from the great, and the great from
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame is the mental side of it.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: How you see the game, how you prepare, how hard
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: you work, how you study, all of that, And we
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: can't tell that by watching stuff on the field, although
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: we can try to we can try to piece some
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: of them together. But yeah, I would love to get
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: some like some of the especially for a guy like
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: Harston like and a guy for Green as well, like,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: because Green vehemently denies both allegations even though they're the same,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: and one came in high school and one came in college,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: and it's like, that's not a good look for you.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: But he calmly and vehemently is like, now they're both
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: not true. That's why I wasn't charged. YadA YadA, Like, yeah,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: so what does the interview process look like? Like, what
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: does the investigation work the teams have done, like off
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: like aside from the interview piece, Like how much does
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: that track? Yeah, it's a it's an unfortunate part.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: There are times, like on the field where I'm like, oh,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: he's doing it. He's getting mad. There's something going on
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: with this guy, like not saying anything. And I'm just
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: using this one player as an example, Tay Felton from Maryland,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: the receiver. There's an instance where like a ball is
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: he's wide open and like the ball is launched to
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: the moon and he's just like doing this going towards
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: the sideline because it was a third down, big key
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: down in distance or whatever in the game. I can't
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: remember who they were playing, but like you could tell
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: he was visibly frustrated. Not saying he's a bad player
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: or anything like that, but it just like got me
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: thinking all that.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: That was my think of like the the Jermaine Burton
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: stuff last year, and I saw the clip of what
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: happened after the Tennessee game or whatever, and I heard
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: some other out rumblings too, and then like you watch
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: how intense he is on the field positively and negatively,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: and I would hear stuff and I'd be like, all
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: that tracks because I watch him make this he got.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: I forget what game it was, but he got He
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: made a catch early on. Maybe it was against A
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: and m no, I don't know. He made a catch
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: early on and got stuck by this corner and got
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: stopped on like third down. And he made like four
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: catches after that on this corner.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Every time he caught it, he got up and got
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: into that corner's face to like bark at him like crazy,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh, I like it. But
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: then after like the second and third time, I was like,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: all right, dude, he gets it. Yeah, just all right, dude,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: like he made a play. You made a play.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: Calm down, Like I was just like, oh like this
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: stuff kind of or even some of the stuff with
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: like not to get too much into it, but like
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: some of the off the field stuff you hear about
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: Isaiah Bond, Like I would see certain things on tape
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: and I'm like all that kind of tracks because he
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: would do stuff that I'd be like, bro, what are
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: you doing? And then you hear some of those rumlings
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, that maybe kind of tracks a
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: little bit. And yeah, for Mike Green, top end talent
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: of the draft with what he's able to do, but
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: some of the off the field stuff, And in Harrison,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: I think a different type of dude, kind of guy
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: who could have propelled himself maybe into the first but yeah,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: I'm interested to see what kind of fall he has
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: or not, Like does he going around one because teams
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: don't care, or does he falter into the late round
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: two because teams do care?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Or is it more tape related? Like there's right, so
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: many interesting pieces with Harrison guys like that in general?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: What else you got for round two corner targets? This
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: one's gonna probably surprise some people. But I'm gonna go
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: with a player that is higher on my board, And again,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going off of my evaluation. I'm not a kind
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: of the same point as Aunt, like I'm head in
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: the sand, I'm grinding tape and uh that's it. Like
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not going off anybody else's evaluation here, But I'm
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: going with the seventy third ranked player on my board,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Jacob Parrish, the Parish. I didn't realize he was that high.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: For you, this is sick. Yeah, Like I just I
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: think he's more of like a slot in the NFL,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: right like five ten one, uh but four three five
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: thirty seven and a half inch vertical almost thirty one
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: inch arms Like he's longer than you think. I think
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: he can play inside outside. Really reminds me of like
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: a Meek Robertson. And he's just like this solid third
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: round pick. Like, yes, there's some limitations with this game
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: where you're like, all right, I'm not gonna take him
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: at you know, the first round or early in the
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: second round, but late in the second, early in the third.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: This is a guy that you draft because he's gonna
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: be solid. He's gonna carve five, six, seven years in
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: the league. He's physical, he's feisty, he doesn't care about
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: his size limitations. He comes up and hits We talked
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: about it last night, Like he comes up in the
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: hole and hits camp scatabow. I got him literally saved
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: in my desktop right now. Like those two clips, dude.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: He the first one he like dies at him and
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: puts chest right on like knee and ankle wraps him up.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: And then the next one it's like literally three plays later,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: Arizona State runs duo and he's in the box and
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: it's third and one and he brings everything and Scatubule
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: gets the first down by like a half an inch,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: but he brings everything and chops him down and goes
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: through his lower body. And I was just like, I
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: was like, sign me up, I'm done, sign ready. I
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: do think, Oh, this is a great comment. Sorry, you're good.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: This is a good comment from Charles For me. The
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: first thing I wrote in my notes for pairis I
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: wrote that he's a porn man's Isaiah McDuffie, And I
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: mean that is a huge compliment, like the inside outside,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: some of the way that he's built and the way
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: that he looks. It also might be how many long
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: how much he wears long sleeves, which mcduffey did it.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: I was doing a lot of instilled.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Many of those guys, and it drives me nuts. They're
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: all wearing purple long sleeves. I'm like, who is who
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: right now? Dude? And I can't tell you. I could
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: do a full episode just on poor camera angles for
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: teams and teams where I can't tell which player is
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: who until I get like the end zone angle.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: It drives me absolutely insane.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think Paris is a poor
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: man's mcduffy with the inside outside, the play style, and
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: some of the specific aspects which I have been my
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: evaluations as well.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk about his I'm all aboard, like you
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: having Parish to hide this excites me greatly.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I really like his game. I know that's
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: gonna surprise people, Like you do a mock draft simulator,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: I see him at like one eighty nine, and I'm like,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: that's just not realistic, Like it's just not like. I
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: really think he's going to be a much earlier pick
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: than people think.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: Especially with how he plays the running. Talked about it,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: the inside outside, that carries a lot of value. If
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: teams want to play him in the slot and he
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: can cover and fit the run, he might go earlier
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: solely because of that.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing, like if you're playing I don't know,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: let's say you're playing somebody that's two by two and
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: he's covering the slot and the slot receiver motions across,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: and you know on that side of the field you
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: got trips. Now now you switch over in his own
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: whatever you're doing maybe you're going into you know, quarters
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: over there, whatever the case may be, or some type
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: of cover two. However you want to defend that. Maybe
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: you're running Cover three against the trip side over there.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Who knows, But he now maybe moves into the box.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe the safety rotates over to that trip side. Now
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: you've kind of got with a single high safety in
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: the middle of the field. But he's now closer to
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: the box. He can still play that physicality.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe you don't need you don't need him to travel
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: to the trip side. You can have him essentially be
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: kind of like, Okay, he's the will on this week's
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: side here, and he'll fit the run.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: In that light box and do work exactly. It just
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: he gives that versatile element to the defense that some
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: defenses don't have. And when we're talking about like the
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Brian Branch, you want that dimebacker type deal. Not saying
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: he's going to play a linebacker role, but in a
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: dime you might want to put him up near the
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: box because of these things. So I really like him.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: I think he can play press man, he stays in phase,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: He's got some ball skills there. I think the biggest
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: thing with him was just like I thought he would
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: get crossed up with his feet at times. Maybe he
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: has a.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: Lot of stumbling, Like yeah, stumbles and falls down in
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: every game I watched four of them. He would have
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: multiple times in each game where like in a pedal
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: or a turn. Yeah, just like he would.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Break inbreakers and he's just like I don't know if
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: it was like a balance thing or his base got
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: too wide, And I was like.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: Are the field conditions bad everywhere you're playing? But like
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: no one else is stumbling, Like it's yeah, it's weird.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if like he was like if
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: he's being taught to like kind of run and then
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: squat and kind of sit there and wait, I don't
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: necessarily know what it is, but like there's some of
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: that start stop stuff that just worries me a little bit.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: But he's a younger player, man, he just turned twenty one,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Like he's going to spend his whole rookie season at
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: the age of twenty one. Like there is a lot
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: that you can get out of this guy. I like him,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: I mean I really do. He kind of, like I mentioned,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: reminds me of Meek Robertson. Maybe pick seventy three is
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: a little too soon for people, or fifty six sixty
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: two for the Bill's sake, But like, I think he
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: can be a high level player with you know, contributions
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: wise as a rookie and then eventually turn into that
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: CB two or CB three in this case. And if
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: we're running a lot of nickel, you know, this is
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: that's a starter. This is a guy that makes a
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: ton of sense. So I'm a big Jacob Parish guy.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: And that was kind of the two guys that I
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: was talking about as far as like day two, I.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: Really really really like him, and to your point, he's
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: a guy who so I was gonna talk about him
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: in the day three targets because my hope was he
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: would fall because to your point, like I have like
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: a saw a three on him, but the Bills don't
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: have a three, And maybe round two is a little rich,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: but I wouldn't hate it because I love him, But
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: I like my hope is, okay, does he fall to
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: one O nine and the Bills can get him at
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: at one O nine. I just like the way that
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: he plays, and it's so I'm just gonna go through
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: my evaluation piece and you know, you hit the numbers
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: and measurables. His arm length that you mentioned that twenty
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: eighth percentile for arm length, which isn't obviously amazing, but
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: isn't terrible. He doesn't have, you know, Roger McCreery arms,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: but which is ironic because McCreery has turned into a
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: really solid nickel h in the NFL, another one in
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: the flag Camper Anth.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good. He was.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: I got a lot of crap because he had short arm.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: Same thing with McDuffie. People told me neither of those
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: guys would be good. But whoever, I'm not that person.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: I don't care. Hey, look at who would look at it?
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Who thought? Exo XO, Dear Robie rob I like snakes
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: and sparklers.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: The first thing I have in my notes, and this
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: is like, there's so many things that like I find
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: interesting with it, and so the two big ones, and
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: I'll mentioned like the stumbling, which I kind of want
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: to lead with that. The first thing I have is
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: he does have like, oh, calm and quiet feet. He
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: can sit and slowly do that kickstep, calm under control,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: but then at the same time like he's fallen all
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: over himself. And I don't know why or what's happening?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: Twitchy good breaks on the ball, he drives and closes quickly,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: but also within that he's got this hiccup. I didn't
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: know how to like verbalize it. I said, it's like
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: he double clutches. He double clutches at times when planting
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: and driving, almost like he has to load up to
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: come forward, like he'll be in kind of like that
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: turn and in bail and someone runs like an out
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: or a comeback, and instead of just like bang and
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: coming out, he almost has to like boom boom and
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: then come forward. But when he comes forward there's twitch
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: and he closes quick. But and so again that was
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: another one for me.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, are your feet bad? Do you not have
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: the explosion like in your type of body?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: But then you look at his testing numbers eighty seven
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: percent to he for the for eighty eight percent to
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: how for the broad jump, Like he's got twitch and
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: speed and explosion for days.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: So then I'm like, Okay, it shouldn't be explosion.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: Is it your feet? Are you getting crossed up? Like
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: it's just yeah, that weird double like double again, like
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: a double clutch like foot foot and then bang and
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: come out and he's not high cut, he's got good build.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, I don't know why that's happening to you,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: But I do think he's also from an outside perspective,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: and this is kind of tying into it as well.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Wife, I was like, wondering, does he go earlier?
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: Does he fall?
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if teams are gonna see him as
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: a slot or see him as an outside or inside
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: outside versatility, both type of deal.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: I do think he can play outside. I agree with
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: your sentiments of like, if you want to get him
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: in early, you put him in the slot and if
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: he grows into more of a CB two.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: But you watch him and he.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: Plays a really good soft suit of shoe press. He'll
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: work in a punch on the release or early in
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: the stems, but he's got the feet and the athleticism
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: and the coverage shops to stay in phase against a
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: variety of dudes and body types in press. He's also
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: a really good coverage communicator and adjuster. He's the one
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: throwing off the hand signals yes, and if someone short
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: motions down into twins, he's doing the check yep. He's
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: doing everything he's not. It's not just him relaying he's
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: doing the initial check. He's doing the initial coverage. And
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: then we talked about it. I wrote a fearless and
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: physical tackler, and then I put a star and I
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: see him stick Scataboo in the hole twice. You'll watch
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: him come up and make a quick tackle first receivers
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: if you know they hit a little a little quick
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: like smoke or a little quick hot tool. If he's
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: in off like, he'll just come down close the space.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: Make a good sound tackler, make a good sound tackle.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: He's physical, but he also wraps. I like that a lot.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: He's slot capable, ability to stay in the hip pocket.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Some negatives.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: I think the arm length and height will limit him
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: at times at the catch point. And then this next
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: one really came from the game against Arizona, some of
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: his reps against Tech McMillan, and then just their receivers
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: in general, who are a little bigger bodied. Same thing
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: with Oklahoma State. Bigger bodies I think will cause issues
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: for him in two ways, in disengaging from blocks and
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: at the break in routes. Bigger frames can go through
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: him or create separation with physicality, which is ironic because
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: he welcomes contact and looks to create collision points. If
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: he's going to play an offman coverage, I think he
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: has to be more of a scooch technique as opposed
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: to a catchman, because the catchman will leave him vulnerable
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: in his chest. Against Biggs, there are times where you
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: see guys like literally just run through him and he's
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: on the ground. But I also think some of that
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: can be tied to awareness and being coached up a
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: little bit more. I also don't think NFL receivers are
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: going to look to bully through him like college dudes are,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: who are trying to send a message. NFL receivers don't
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: want contact. They're not trying to like do that type
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: of game unless they're DK Metcalf and they're throwing a
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: temper tantrum because they didn't.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Get or George Pickens or something. Right.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Pickens is a whole different cat in it
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: every sycle way. So yeah, that's rarer, but it still
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: is somewhat of an issue for me. Sure tackler again
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: brings his body and wraps up, and then the coverage
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: versatility cover three. They also ransom three clouders. I thought
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: was cool, But man, capable Cover two Tampa two. You
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: can watch him rock a cloud corner. He's got the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: ability is that cover three, you know, deep third corner.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: If two guys are running birds, he can space them
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: both and keep an eye on the QB and make
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: a play. But some of the double clutching in the
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: breaks and some of the footwork stumbles and sloppiness at
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: times along with the bigger with the struggles versus some
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: bigger frames or bodies at times is why I knock
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: him down a bit.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: But I really like he. Amos is my top of
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: I also love Baron as well, but I think so
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: many people love John Ay Barron, so like, that's not
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: a flag I'm trying to plant. Becauthough you're like the
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: guy who won like best TB in college football.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: Good for you. Amos is like my day one early
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: guy perishes that next corner that I absolutely love. And
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen a ton of people talk about him.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: It's so funny. We were talking about it last night
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: texting late. It's so funny. Yeah, because I was watching
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: him against Arizona State and you were like, oh, are
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: you also up watching Scatt?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: I was like, no, I'm watching Parish but I'm clipping
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: scatterboo stuff because he's sick. And so, yeah, it's so
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: funny that you have in that.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: I haven't had hurt anyone half him that high, and
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: so the fact that you do, I wouldn't hate it.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: I like again, and I mean this is a compliment.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: I think he's a poor man Isaiah, poor man's Isaiah
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: McDuffie and or Trent McDuffie.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: Who the hell is isaiamh You kept saying Isaiah and
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: McDuffie the linebacker for the Packers, but you met Trent McDuffie.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: I knew. And you know what I used to do too,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: when McDuffie was coming out.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: I would say, oh, j McDuffie the receiver from the
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: Dolphins in the nineties, Okay, and I never I don't
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: even watch any isa mcduffey stuff. Yeah, Trent McDuffie. So sorry, Yeah,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: I think he's a poor man's Trent McDuffie. And McDuffie's
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: an all pro corner, So a poor man's Trent McDuffie
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: almost at Isaiah again, A poor man's Trent McDuffie is
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: like a solid starting corner. I really do think he
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: has CB two upside and at worst inside outside versatility.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: And for a team like the Bills, who I think
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: always having a good answer to the backup of Taron
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: Johnson matters a lot. And if you've got somebody who
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 4: could do that and also compete for your CB two
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: or just be CB three depth dream scenario for me
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: is the Bills get him at one oh nine after
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: getting Amos at thirty, and I ride off into the sunset.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: That would be the dream, right, I mean it's possible.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: It's it's possible that he isa McDuffie this whole time
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: should have corrected me. That's not I should have. I
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: should have my fault. I just didn't want to. I
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, no, it's a it's a weird
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: type it it's a it's a weird thing to navigate.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: I I I understand, but yeah I can't.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, So, I mean, like McDuffie, I never even
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: think of Isaiah McDuffie. That means in the off season,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: you gotta watch his film and we gotta break it down.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: We gotta me and you gotta do a show. We
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: gotta do Isah McDuffie film breakdown for no reason? Whatsoever.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: Just all the McDuffie's will do him. We'll do Trent.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: We'll find some nineties Dolphins tape and watch OJ McDuffie, and.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: Then when we're done, we'll watch OJ Simpson running driving
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: down the highway. It's you know, and then put on
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: WrestleMania and we'll have a grand time.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: It's a good show. I'd watched that show.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: That's a great podcast. It's like eight hours long. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna move the day three same.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: I would say any anybody, and I'll mention to my
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: one last thing I do have more of this is
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: arranged two.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: I would look for a Z.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: Thomas to be there. I'm calling himazy because I'm gonna
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: try to pronounce the firstname because I screwed it up
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: all the time. I can't even say Trent instead of Isaiah,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: so boom, there you go. But I just I just
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: don't think Thomas is going to be there at fifty six.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: I think he's gonna go between thirty five and forty
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: five fifty at the latest.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he is a trade up.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: Candidate like you brought out earlier.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Another one too that I would that I like here
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: at this spot. Benjamin Morrison is a Day two type
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: of guy. You know you talked about him earlier.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: That's that's always why I didn't bring m up. So
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: that's the same thing I'm gonna say too as well.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: Like he's a guy that I like the idea of here.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: I also don't think he's going to be there. I
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: he's another one where and again we talked about it
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: earlier with him and Rebel. I don't know if teams
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: are going to be like the guy we saw in
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three having good battles against Marvin Harrison Junior.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: That's like if you told me a team has Benjamin
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: Morrison is CB three or CB two, I wouldn't think
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: that's crazy. If you told me they have Benjamin Morrison
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: as like CB eight, I wouldn't think that's crazy.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: So I wonder where they put him.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: But some of the twenty twenty four tape was good too,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: even though he was bad on an injury and then
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: ended up getting hurt. And he's another guy again we're
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: ticking the boxes. Another dude who's comfortable in press, really
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: good feet, fluid athlete, good soft shoe corner in terms
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: of press, but the size is what gets me a
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: little six feet one hundred and ninety three pounds, but
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: thirty and three eights inch arms, which is fourteen percentile.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: And I do think that short arm length gets him
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: at times, but he can mitigate and make up for
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: it with really good like short area burst and twitch,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: good feet, good zone eyes. He's another guy who's able
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: to collect and fall into windows. But some of the
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: things with that, I feel like he takes unnecessary risks,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: like he peeks into the backfield when he doesn't have to,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: where he tries to make a spectacular play by going
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: into a different coverage or kind of abandoning, I should say,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: of banning his responsibility to make a play somewhere else.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it works and he's got these awesome interceptions. Other
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: times he's kind of vacating his responsibility. He can get
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: caught high at the tackle point, leading to mistackles. He's
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: more of a nail than a hammer as a tackler
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: and seems to be kind of not sound in that regard.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: But he is willing looks to jump routes and will
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: vacate his coverage responsibility accordingly, which is awesome but also
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 4: kind of not good. We'll give up separation at the
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 4: release and also on the break due to his short arms,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: but he has the athleticism and the feet to quickly
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: get back into phase and I start again. He does
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: have good feet, good recovery, good closing speed that shows
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: on slants. He'll give up separation on the break, but
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: he takes two steps and he's able to close right
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: back down, understands where throwers are going to. He's able
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: to cut dudes off and kind of beat them to
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: the spot. And then he can get manhandled by bigger
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: wide receivers as blockers, and he can get run through
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: by downhill running backs and even quarterbacks. Bigger body qbs
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: who are kind of moving will get through him a
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: bit as well. But he's I threw him in here
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: because I do have a Day two grade on him.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: I like him, but there were some questions I had, yeah,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: that I mentioned, But well, the ceiling is there for him,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: and I just don't think he's gonna be there, But
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: I'm putting him in this conversation.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's interesting, Like I think he kind
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: of falls into like that Garrett Williams category that we
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: saw two years ago, three years ago. Now from Syracuse.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: He was then he had the I think it was
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: the torn acl if I remember right. But he got
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: drafted in twenty twenty three. I think he was like
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: a third round pick to the Cardinals.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: But like and they have him played like slot safety,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: all this different stuff there.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: He was turning into an absolute stud for them, and
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: the reason why he dropped was because he wasn't healthy.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: So it just like it goes to show, like if
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: Morrison can stay healthy, he's you know, he had the
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: shoulder surgery in the offseason going into this past season.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: Then he had the hips surgery during the season and
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: missed a bunch of times. So like it makes sense
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: like if he drops a little bit and he could
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: be there at fifty six to sixty too, it makes
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Just in my mind today, I
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: don't think he's there, But I'm glad you did talk
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: about him because he deserves the credit to be talked
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: about because, like I said earlier to start the show,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: he is that forgotten corner and he does like come
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: from just a family of athletes. Like I don't know
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: if people know this, but like his brother Sammy played
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: football at Arizona in San Diego State. His father, Daryl,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: played football at Arizona and was drafted in the third
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: round of the nineteen ninety three NFL Draft by the
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: Washington at the time Redskins. And Morrison's only twenty one
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: years old, so like his father's like a pastor now
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: in Arizona and stuff. But he's only twenty one years old,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: still relatively young. Long speed, I think I have question marks.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: One hundred meters dashtime pr was eleven point four to
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: six seconds, but that ideal ball skills are there, plays
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: under control at times, you know.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's more of a short area burst, twitch guy.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: Then he has like a long speed running with dudes
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: down the field and closing vertically.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you play them an off man or something
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: like that, like he's probably gonna be much.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: I would let it do that, keep everything in front
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: of you and take advantage of your feet in the
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: short area quickness and kind of let him go forward
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: from there.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: I just it is.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: I I'm very interested to see if teams are like, no,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: we're going off the twenty twenty three tape where he
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: was one of the best corners in the nation, or
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: do they pair that with the twenty twenty four stuff again,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 4: the twenty twenty four stuff is still good? Or this
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: is another guy too, Like as guys are doing medicals,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: is there some underlying thing and they think he's gonna
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: get banged up a whole bunch And does that scare
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: them off of taking him early? Like can he fall
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: because of that?
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: Like he's a yeah.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 4: Like if again, if you told me that he's there
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: at fifty six, I would be like, oh, okay, do
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: you if you told me he goes at like thirty
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: six or whatever early too, I'd be like, oh, okay, I.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: Do have a question.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: How much do you think Benjamin Morrison benefited from playing
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: with a player like Xavier Wats Because this doesn't get
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: talked about enough. Exager Watts maybe one of the more
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: slept on guys. Top fifty player for me, I think
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: he's gonna end up being my safety. Two. That's Malachi
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: More for me. I don't know, I'm crazy. Oh, I forget,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not done with safety. But yeah, I mean, but
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: they're like neck and neck. I mean I think they're
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: like ones forty five, ones forty seven or whatever. But
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: like Xavier Watts is the only player in the country
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: not named Travis Hunter that was unanimous All American in
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and in twenty twenty four, Like, does
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: that help Benjamin Morrison at all? That you've got this
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: freak of a safety playing on the field and patrolling
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: so much that he's putting you in a position, not
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: putting you in a position, because you've got to still
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: be in that position. So I'm not discrediting the skill set,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: but like how much of a benefit is that for him?
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: And like you look at like the draft board and
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, not saying Morrison's gonna go at like
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: pick twenty seven to Baltimore, but Baltimore's got picked fifty nine,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: Like does he make a lot of sense there? Does
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: he make a lot of sense for Green Bay at
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: fifty four? You know, you put him in a place
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: where there's a lot more talent, as Morrison not saying
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't have talent. He absolutely would make sense at fifty
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: six to sixty two. But like, is he a guy
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: that's going to be better off with some better supporting
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: cast or is he better off being the guy for
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: a defense? You know what I mean?
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: That's a fair point.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: And I even.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 4: Even with the size. I'm like, does anybody you know,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: it's a good question. I'm even with the size, like
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: does somebody want to put him in the slot?
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: How much does he benefit?
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that that's a good question of like how much
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 4: does he benefit?
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: With like what I mean?
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: Watts was such an eraser in a multitude of ways
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: that they're covered.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: But man Morrison on An Island was like, good, there's
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: some really good like tape for him in some battles. Yeah,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: he's badly comparable to Garrett Williams though one ninety two
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: and pounds to one ninety three, arm length is the
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: exact same, smaller hands, A lot of comparisons there, So
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, could be a day, a late day,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: two pick somewhere. You never know.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: One one last guy I wanted to mention. We talked
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: about him briefly, but tm tmtm asked, what's y'all's take
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 4: on Daarian Porter from Iowa State? So Russ hates him?
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: I'll speak on him, bro. I shouldn't say hate, although
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: you did say that last night. Not a fan of
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: his tape. I just can't get behind it. If you
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: if you can't tackle or do certain things I just
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: I got it, like you gotta draw me in after
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: a game or two, and if you're not doing that,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: I don't got time to watch it. I just don't like.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: I gotta move on. He really good, like testing numbers,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: the longest arms in the corner class, ninety third percentile overall,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: plays a lot of Pressman.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: I'll just kind of go through my notes. I thought
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: he had good spatial awareness his own. He's able to
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: space routes accordingly in spot drop coverages pressman corner. He's
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: susceptible to underneath routes, and inbreakers, his feet will get
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: crossed up and or stuck. He'll get caught lunging at times.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 4: His feet and hands will often be out of sync.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: He's a willing force player, but his lanky frame makes
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: him moveable as a run defender. Russ and I were
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 4: talking about this last night or two days ago. He
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: plays in like a weird rotation, like a three corner
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: rotation at Iowa State, and I didn't know if it
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: was just like the always the plan or if they
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 4: took him off by design with more run series or rundowns.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: Kind of happening.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got quick, clean feet when driving on routes,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 4: and he does have some hip sync to his game.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: He's got a really, really, really great rep against Iowa
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 4: where he comes up as his Iowa tape is good,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 4: but he's got it. He comes up because he bites
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: on the play action, slams into a receiver, sees that
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: its play action drops back into his deep third, sees
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: the tight end leaking out, sinks underneath it, goes up
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: and makes an interception. It's a real heady play. It's
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: great processing and recognition. He's also got a really.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: Nice play in that game where Caleb Johnson busts off
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: a big run and Porter runs him down from the
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: far sideline by the line of scrimmage and chases him down.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: Like great long speed, good twitch and length. But yeah,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: he's got some linkiness and some frame concerns.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: And again, like I want to give him his credit
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: in some ASPEC right because I'll watch, like who was it?
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Let me go to my game. It was against Texas Tech.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: They're like running pin and pull and he's the force
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: to be he and he comes up and meets the
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: pulling guard, but he gets absolutely demolished. But he's willing,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: like he's not running away from contact. He's just not
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: the best like contact guy, and I think there's some
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: sloppiness overall.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: I think you can clean it up. I don't love him,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: I have I have more of a three on him
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: because of the worries. I think he could creep up.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be crazy to me if the Bills considered
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: him at fifty six or sixty two.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 4: I don't love him.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: I don't like him.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: He's in this like weird in between range because of
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 4: the run defense piece, but the traits like so, I
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: don't hate him like Russ does, but I don't like the.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: Last player I watch. Dude it.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: He's got some fun coverage pieces like legitimately some nice
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: plays on the ball, the length plays, the athleticism plays,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: the speed is very real. I just questioned the technique
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: and the the rhythmic play that he seems to be
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: lacking at times. And then some of the run support
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: stuff is a big question. And again, if you are
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: and see you no, I want to put this orr
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: at TM says if he doesn't like to tackle, I'll pass.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: It's not that he doesn't like to tackle, he's just
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: not great at it, and he's thin like so it's harder.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: But it's not that he's not willing like he he
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: is willing. He's and he it's weird, like, yeah, he's
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: slamming into guys, but he's just they're not going anywhere
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 4: because he's like skinnier and he's longer and lanky. Again,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: he's he's got thirty three and h what is it,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: thirty three and an eighth inch arms, which is ninety
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: third percent of so he's got long arms and he's
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: six too, one hundred and ninety five. So picture like
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: a longer, thinner type of corner. So it's not that
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: he's not willing, it's just not a strong suit because
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: of how he's built. Now you could coach it up.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: There could be some technique improvements. I just think it
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: has to be a lot given how he's built lower
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: body and upper body. It's not that he's not willing.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: It's just a bit messy. But again, so were some
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: of his coverage AFT. I think taking him is more
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: a bet on the traits. You're betting on the speed
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: and the length and your ability to coach that guy up,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 4: which is why I can understand a team taking him
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: in round two because of the trades. I just there
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: are certain things that scare me off, even though I'm
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: not appeer, like trades over production or production over trades. Guy,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: there are just some things that scare me. But yeah,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: so I want to talk about that because he was
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: on my list and we mentioned him briefly about how
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 4: you didn't like him.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: But I saw that.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: I know for a lot of fans he's he's like
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: a from a mock draft perspective. He's like a day
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: two staple or like a Round two staple. So I
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 4: thought it made sense to kind of speak on him
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: here a little. All right, Day three kai, guys.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm moving on. I'm going to Quincy Riley out
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: of Louisville. His position coach and I actually have a
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: pretty good friendship and we talk pretty often.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: Make stuff up.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: You're such a liar, Well, we can pull up the screen.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: We'll show up thet DMS. Dude, it is what it is.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know what do you want from me? This
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: is your show we want from me. I'm just the guy.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: What do you tell?
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: Oh man?
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Quincy was so good this year. X I will
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: say Louis XO, and I to say that, uh, Louisville
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: h safety to Marion McDonald is a player worth writing down.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: This dude freaking hits and he told me more about me.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 4: That's what I did for the other safety at Notre Dame.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: I forget his name right now, Aiden Schuler number eight. Yes,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: hit like a missile and a freight trainers at Richard
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: freshman last year, will be a sophomore this year.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: Stay. I wrote his name down for next fall one
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. Every single time. He was like, I'm like,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: who is this kid? Who is eight?
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 4: I'm like, he's just flying around everywhere. Yeah, so I continue.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: I got excited. But the position coach had told me
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: about to Mary McDonald and then we started talking about
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: Quincy Riley's Senior Bowl all that stuff. We weren't able
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: to connect. He you know, stayed out recruiting, didn't actually
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: come down to the event.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 4: You were sick as hell anyway.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't matter. I was useless anyways. But yeah,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: I like Quincy Riley is like an early day three pick.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: If you're if you're looking at you know, the bills
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: at one oh four, like you were mentioning. I think
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: he makes a lot of sense. I know that might
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: be rich for some people because you know, the mock
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: draft says he's, you know, maybe one hundred and eightieth
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: on the board or whatever the case may be. He
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of like Chris Abrams Drain from
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: last year when he was coming out from Missouri. Has
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: that thinner frame, kind of presents some issues at times
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: when tackling, but he's willing to come up and tackle.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Kind of like Darien Porter, I think he puts himself
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: in a better position. Where I felt like with Porter
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: when watching him, while he was willing, he didn't. It
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: just didn't feel like he was willing to put himself
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: in a better position. He looked disinterested in lowering his
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: pad level and actually trying to strike the opposition, where
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: Quincy Riley I feel like will at least give you
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: that effort. Is it consistent, No, he misses, But again
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: kind of like I have I have in.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: My notes for Quincy Riley that he's like got that
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 4: dog mentality and he plays with a tenacious mindset.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: Correct, and he's a that you're betting on traits right
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: in a similar sense, like ball skills athleticism, he could
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: high point the football. He shows good closing speed, good
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: recovery ability, and this is a guy that you know
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: ran a four four eight, so sub four or five
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: times is relatively okay. But only one hundred and ninety
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: four pounds. Smaller hands like eight inch hands, which can
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: become problematic at the catch point when you're competing and
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: having to press and jam and those types of things.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: But I like him overall. I think he's limited to
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: a certain degree because I think in zone coverage he
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: definitely drifts, he gets pulled out of position. The spatial
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: awareness isn't as much there as other corners. But again,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: we're talking about a player at pick one oh four,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: you know, we're talking day three targets here. I think
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: he relatively goes earlier than expected, you know, not like
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: one eighty like a mock draft might say or something
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: like that. But I like his skill set. I think
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: he's a guy that probably has better football in front
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: of him if he lands in a place that I
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: think like him play more like offman where he can
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: see things in front of him. Maybe let him play
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: a little press man because he can do some of
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: the jam and redirecting and things like that. But I
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: think you play him off a little bit, let him
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: close and see what's in front of him, and let
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: that burst to the football and play through the catch
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: point work to his advantage. And then if he has
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: to go vertical and he's got a high point the football,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: whether it's on a post or just a go route whatever,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: he can do that and recover a little bit. So yeah,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: that was the guy that I wanted to start day
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: three to four for me on the Bill's targets.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: My favorite thing about him is the way he plays
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: through wide receivers trying to block him on screens and bubbles,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 4: like he just will go through. It's like he's personally
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 4: offended that they're trying. You're trying to block him, Yeah,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 4: and he just plays right through. Which is where a
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 4: lot of like my tenaciousness for him came from, Like,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: oh I like this, and then it it bothered.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: Me how inconsistent he was as a tackler for his size.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: I just expected again and this is this is my
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: me kind of going into it with a preconceived notion,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: which is not fair to him. But like seeing the
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: size of like six one ninety four, I was like okay,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 4: like and knowing even like Louisville and how they play
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: and knowing what they are. I was like, I don't know,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: like I think of your boy like Ashton Jalottie, and
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: I think like he's a poster boy for like how
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: Louisville's defense play. So I guess I just kind of
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: expected more soundness in that area from Riley and didn't
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: get it, which disappointed me a bit. But like you said,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: he's a consideration on Day three, I find I again,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: I was gonna talk about Perish in this segment, just
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 4: because it was my hope that he would be there
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: at like one oh nine and they can go. I
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: struggled with a lot of like the Day three corners,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: which again I think is understandable, like no one's sitting
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 4: here pounding the table, being like this Day three corner
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 4: is perfect, this and this. I love this because obviously
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: they're Day three player for a reason.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: But Riley is one.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was intrigued by a bit.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: Although initially a little disappointed because of again my own fault,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: some of my uh preconceived notions. Who else you got
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: on day three? Noel Williams from KELK kind of another
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: pressman guy, I'm a sucker for it. But this dude's
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: got ball skills. Six foot two hundred pounds four five
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: forty three con drill at three six ninety seven, which
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: is relatively good for a player of that size, and
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: has that press man ability. You know, he had fourteen
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: interceptions in his career. I think he had six or
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: seven last year if I remember correctly. But yeah, I mean,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: ball skills are there. I think he reads and anticipates
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: really well. I think when you look at the way
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: when he when he is in pressman, I think one
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: of the biggest issues that I have is like he
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: I know I mentioned like the six ninety seven three condrel,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: which is good to test, but when you got the
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: pads on, he's not always like turning his hips and
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: flipping and running out of press man vertically as much
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: as I would like him to. Because he plays a
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: lot more press man. He's always trying to jam, redirect
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: and those types of things. But this is a guy
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: that we're talking again, third round, fourth round, maybe even
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: fifth round. You're drafting, you're developing. He's gonna get grabby.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: He's got to clean some things up, but he's in phase.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: He's got the ball skills and he tested relatively well
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: for his size, and I thought, I think he had
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: a really good Shrine Bowl if I remember right. So
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: I like him. I like the development aspect of it.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: This is a guy that I'm drafting to develop and
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: if you can get him and you develop him into
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: like a CB two as a fourth round pick like
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: Bill's Nation, sign me up, right, Like that's what you're
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: doing or built Mafia Bill's Nation, Bills Nation.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: That's your Isaiah McDuffie.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my Isaiah Isaiah McDuffie. So yeah, no Williams
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, he uh.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: He was an interesting one for me, Like I he
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 4: had a nice interception against MYAMMI when I was watching
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: that game as a Miami fan, and I hated him
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: at the time. That game was super stressful and that
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: was like one of the first of many games for
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: Miami where I was like, man, this defense is really
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: going to hold Miami back and then lo and behold
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 4: it did. But yeah, the size plays like the I
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: don't know if it's the I again, I don't know
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: if it's good eyes and processing or film study or
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: instincts or whatever, but just the ability to constantly find
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: himself in and around the ball, like is especially in
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: his zone, like to jump routes, to fall in line,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 4: to kind of make plays out of structure from a
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: coverage standpoint as well. Some of the movement I don't
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: love with him and stiff almost yes, And I think
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 4: some of that is reflected in some of his measurables,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: you know, twenty eight percentile for the vert thirty eight
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 4: percentile for the broad jump, like yeah, I feel like.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: There's like whole body stiffness to him. Yeah.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 4: But again, given the size and frame and physicality, I
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 4: think some of that is kind of understood, like going
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: to a watch and thinking, like, man, this dude's gonna
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: like to such a fluid athlete, YadA YadA, Like he's
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: built differently and he plays differently accordingly.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: So some of the movement worries me a little bit.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: But given his and I hate using this phrase because
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: it's used too much, but like, given his like nose
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: for the football and the ability to kind of constantly
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: be around it, like you don't fall into these turnovers
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: by mistake, I don't know how much that skews the
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: evaluation potentially, but he's another dude. Yeah, Like on day
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: three that I had written down then I'm like, okay,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't I wouldn't mind have passed that. I'm like,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: I have more of like a middle of the day
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: three type of deal than earlier because of some of
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: those concerns.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: But I mean, the ball production is there, and he
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 4: played in a defense that was like really mean and
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 4: kind of did some fun things at cal which is interesting.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: A couple of people have been commenting on this and
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: the chat and I want to bring him up. What
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Kobe Bryant from dude, he was
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: literally the next player I was going to talk about,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: just like not in detail because I only watched two
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: games on him, but like looking at him at what
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: he did, Like against West Virginia, there's one where he
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: anticipates like this back shoulder. I don't know if it
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: was like a deep curl. It was in overtime that
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: you know, to seal the game, and he just sitting
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: in perfect position. He sinks his hips, He's sitting there,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: he's patient, and he just jumps the route, takes it
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: to the house game over, game like he didn't need
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: to score, but just kind of what he did in
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: on that, you know, specific play and then one of
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: the other games I want to say it was Kansas
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: State and he's playing in zone and he like lets
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: number one go and cross to the middle of the
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: field and he takes number two up the sideline and
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: he's just sitting in a perfect position breaks up the
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: pass like I don't want to say he baits the
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: quarterback and thinking that he's going with number one, but
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: it kind of felt like he was. And he was
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: a guy that just like always caught my eye. I
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: just haven't had the chance to like go back and
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: watch him, but like through the two games that I
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: had studied West Virginia and Kansas State, he really stood
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: out with his coverage skills and the way he played,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: whether it was in offman or some type of zone.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: He really seemed to be patient, fluid and had the
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: ball skills. I'm excited to watch more him. Darien Porter
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: are two guys that I'll probably watch within the next
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: week or so, And if I can, I would like
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: to get Zi Alexander from LSU on there as well,
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: and potentially the Minnesota kid Justin Wally. I'm hoping I
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: can add him into the mix as well. Yeah, but
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: Brian's a guy who the initial measurables scared me, Like
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: seeing smaller weight like around one hundred and eighty pounds
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: and then not being like a flyer at a four
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: or five three forty and not having the most like
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: explosive like ten yard or any other like measurables scares
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: me a bit.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, if you're like thinner or smaller, you
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 4: got to have more explosion in your game for me ideal,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: which he doesn't. But I was watching him in the
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 4: other Kansas corner mellow Dotson, Yes, kind of at the
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 4: same time. I only got one game in for both
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 4: of them. I am intrigued to kind of go with
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 4: a little more just because of how he plays. I
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 4: feel like despite having the thinner frame, I feel like
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 4: there is like a good I don't want to say
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 4: aggression or competitiveness.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: I guess like to his game with how he plays.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: And so he's a guy that I need I need
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 4: to go back on. I don't love him right off rip,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 4: but he's got some flashes that I'm encouraged by. Yeah,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 4: I would say so cold. So I really got to
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 4: finish both dudes from Kansas, and then I did watch.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: I was gonna just say I did watch one game
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: of Mellow Dots and it was Arizona State. There's one
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: like one rep that he gets beat by. Uh. I
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: can't remember the receiver's name, but the quarterback, Sam Levitt,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: just drops it in a bucket. I think when he
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: goes to like flip his hips and run vertical, he
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: just gives up like a little bit too much separation.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if he like went to jam
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: and like redirect, thinking like the receiver was gonna like
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: cross his face or something. I don't necessarily know what
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: he was thinking at that time. I haven't obviously talked
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: to the player, but it was like not horrible coverage
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: at all, and I'm like, he's right there, he's in phase,
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: he's right where he needs to be. He just gets
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: beat a little bit too soon. But he's he's an
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: interesting player.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 4: He's feisty.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: I thought there were times against Arizona State like he
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: would come up and make some big plays. So maybe
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: Mellow Dots would be another player would add to that
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: list as well as like a guy I would go
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: back and study.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he so I want to finish like the the
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 4: back end or like middle middle kind of Day three
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 4: guys are the more intriguing ones, you know, for me,
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 4: so I want to get both the Kansas guys we
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 4: just mentioned.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: I've watched one game of Zia Alexander. It's weird because
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: his test measurables are like terrible, not as well, I
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say terrible, but like seventh percentile for the vert,
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: fifteenth percentile for the broad A four five six, forty,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: seventeen percentile. Maybe I won't watch him seventeen percentile for weight,
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: thirty second percentile for arm length.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 4: But then like he's in phase and doing some good things, and.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: Then he's in position and should make a play on
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: the ball but doesn't.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 4: Again, I mean Day three guy, Day three guy, But
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 4: Zia Alexander is an interesting one for you, and who
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 4: Jason Marshall from Florida is one that I want to
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 4: get to as well, to kind of fully finish corner completely.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: But I think that's a that's like a fair crop
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: of like the Day three guys. There's each of these
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: guys are gonna have their worts and it comes down to, Okay,
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: do you want to value the production, do you want
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: to value ball skills.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 4: Do you value tackling, do you value coverage? Are you
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 4: valuing the traits? Are you like, what traits are you valuing?
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 4: And then kind of where you go and how the
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 4: Bills kind of piece it together. I would like them too,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 4: And then I world some kind of corner falls and
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 4: they can scoop one up in round four. I would
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 4: like them to double dip.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: Just Dan Jackson's on a one year and he's right
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: now your corner three or your corner four, depending on
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: what you think of Jamarkus Ingram, And either way, JaMarcus
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: Ingram is kind of unproven. So I do think the
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: Bills need a corner two and a corner three competitor
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: like right now, so and I do. That's why most
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: of my focus is more like, okay, guys that can
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: go between round one and round four, who are guys
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: in the solid like top one hundred, top hundred and
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: twenty five.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 4: There are corners who can go, but these back end guys,
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 4: if you can nab somebody in round five or six
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 4: or seven, and I feel like there's a lot of
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: potential given uh kind of the names on the back end,
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 4: anybody that we haven't talked about that you would like
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 4: to mention.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: I think I'm good. I mean maybe Denzel Burke out
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: of Ohio State that would be another player. But I'm like,
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: he I had some horrible I and this is bad off, bro,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: he had some flat in watching.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 4: I watched so much Ohio State tape because of Tyler Williams,
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 4: YEP and JTT and Sawyer and then Cody Simon, who
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 4: I like. So I would watch Cody Simon a bit,
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 4: and then I would just go and watch random games
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 4: because I love downs, and I just kept and I
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 4: wasn't watching for Burke, but I'd watch some like Corner
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 4: get beat horribly or look terrible, and it was always Burke.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 4: And this happened like six to eight times, and it
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 4: just made me like not want to watch this tape
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 4: at all, and I know I will, but I was said,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 4: but to your point, like we were talking about this earlier,
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 4: like there's only so much time we have, and it
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 4: maybe be like, do I really want to spend like
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 4: an hour and a half watching Denzel Burke right now
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 4: given what I've seen? And then it makes me think like, okay,
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 4: you know what, I'll watch one game and if it
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 4: keeps happening again.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: Screw it.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to continue down the path. But then
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, what if I like watch that one
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 4: game and it's better. That means I gotta do the
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 4: full four to six and I gotta evaluate and it's like, ah,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 4: like I just get so much of that.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I fall into that all the time. And that's
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: why I'm like, dude, I can only go so far
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: so in depth because the board will never end. Like
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: I love watching film, and I'm getting to like that
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: point right now where like in the next four to
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: five days it's back to just watching nothing but film.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: I don't have to sit here and write my written
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: notes out or my slash slash slash quick feet slash
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: slash slash maybe not slash slash slash notes that I
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: have on my computer, you know, Like I'm finalizing everything,
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, finally I can take a
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: breath and like get back to watching the film. Because
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: I would rather just watch film and put it up
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: here and talk about it and be done with it.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: But I do love writing it out and formatting it
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: and looking at it and it's all pretty and stuff.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there's always I got lost, so.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't know why. I think it was Friday night,
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 4: Saturday night. Everyone was asleep, and I was like, I'm
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 4: gonna watch tape for like a little bit. And I
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 4: was up at like one am watching Keaton Crawford the
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 4: Safety from Nevada and then Cameron for Bicky Lanin or
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 4: whatever his name is, Safety from like Washington. I was
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 4: just watching like Randon and I was like, these aren't corners.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 4: This isn't helping me with what I got for this week.
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't know, they flashed a
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 4: little bit. This is kind of fun. I'm gonna keep
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 4: watching this.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: And then like.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 4: One of the games I watched for Crawford was against
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 4: Boise State and Genty did some genty things, so I
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 4: was like, I'm gonna watch these games and Genty and
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 4: I just went down this like stupid rabbit hole.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: But those are the fun rabbit holes where you're just like,
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: I'll just keep watching tape.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 4: All this guy is sweet. Let me pull up some
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 4: games with this guy while I finished this other guy.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I say. And I don't even do
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: an official draft, guy like you do. I have my
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: positional rankings, kind of like a big board. But yeah,
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: you are a pros pro when it comes to that,
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: so I don't envy you and of maintaining that commitment
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: like you do.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 4: And yeah, anything else on anything.
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm good man. We're sixteen days away, you know,
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. Excited. Probably gonna be doing some lion
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: stuff for it, so always fun doing that. I was
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: gonna say, tell everybody where they can find your stuff.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 4: Plug anything and everything you got, whether it's the line stuff,
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 4: whether it's the draft stuff, anything and everything, your draft guide,
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 4: your Twitter, every anything and everything the floor is yours.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: Plug away, Yeah, draft guys. Uh. In full fact, I
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: mean I think I got twenty six twenty five left
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: to like right out, so pretty much near the final
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: stages of like the handnotes and putting it all back
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: in and ad like the hardest thing is like formatting
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: everything like yes in the name.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: So you were texting be like on the show, what
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: do you think of the way this looks? What do
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: you think of this? Yeah? And like I'm a I'm
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: a very like I'm not saying I'm a perfectionist, but
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: like something doesn't look right to me. To start, I
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: got to get an opinion, and especially in something like
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: this where like it sounds so dumb, but like if
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: the presentation isn't great, some people won't even consider the
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: analysis because the presentation doesn't look great.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 4: And that's a whole nother like mind f to have
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 4: to deal with.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel you on that. And it's just like,
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not the most tech savvy dude, so
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: like there's some things I'm doing and I'm like, there's
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: got to be an easier way for me to like
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: read this on a spreadsheet or whatever the case may be.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: And like I just had the mix up with CB
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: four CB five like an hour ago, you know what
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: I mean apart, So it's just like I got to
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: cross check all that. I gotta make sure I got,
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: you know, the games listed. I've got my combine PRODA stuff,
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: and the PRODA stuff's like really tough to find right now,
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: like it's been the toughest's been in years. Yeah, okay,
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: so it's not just me. I was gonna text you
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: about this like the other day, Like I was trying
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: to look up and it was so hard, like I
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: was feel like I was scouring every place to find
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: and then i'd be like, oh, okay, maybe, like this
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: team's PRODA hasn't happened yet. I'm like, no, it happened
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: a week and a half ago.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 4: Why can I not find what I need to find?
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So, I mean Draft Guy's coming. I'm
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping, I mean like I'm gonna have to. I
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly where I'm posting it yet. I don't
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: know if it's going on Fantasy pros, if it's going
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: on Draft Wire with USA Today or Lions Wire with
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: USA Today or all three, or if I'm just doing
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: a uh like Google sheet. You send me your email
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: and I'll send you a PDF for free type deal
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: because it's always going to be free.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: The only thing I ever asked is if you donate
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: to charity. But we'll cross that bridge when we get
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: to it. Other than that, I mean Lion stuff. I'll
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: be doing a Lion show for Detroit Lion's podcast on
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: Day one of the draft. I'll do a little Fantasy
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: Pro stuff for some of the analysis that I have
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: for them on day one, and then I'll be doing
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of Day two Fantasy Pro stuff, so obviously
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: on Twitter or x at Russ NFL Draft. Thanks thanks
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: now you are x X Dear Rob God, that's a
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: good character.
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you are awesome, and I mean just with
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 4: what you do in general, especially this time of year.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you are.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 4: One of my main sounding boards, really one of the
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 4: very few again because I avoid everything like the plague
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 4: and yeah, just your analysis and your ability to know
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 4: how to evaluate players individually, but then also tying it
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 4: into the actual x's and o's and scheme and structure
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 4: of football. You are one of the best. So I
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  Speaker 4: know everyone already here. Yeah, of course I know everyone
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  Speaker 4: already here pretty much knows who you are. But if
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  Speaker 4: you haven't checked out Russ's stuff, get at him on
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  Speaker 4: the socials, the content, just everything he provides his top
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  Speaker 4: out what Russ is doing. And I hope you folks
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  Speaker 4: enjoyed this episode. And if you did, tell your family
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  Speaker 4: and friends and loved ones about it and how awesome
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  Speaker 4: Be kind to one another, take care of one another.
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  Speaker 4: I'll see you when I see it.
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  Speaker 1: For myself, anti prohaska for Russell Brown, this has been
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  Speaker 1: another episode of disguised coverage.
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  Speaker 4: Russ, you were amazing for stopping by. Thank you everyone
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  Speaker 4: in the chat, all the back and forth, the engagement
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  Speaker 4: with us with one another. Appreciate you, folks. As Noah said, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and could go till two in the morning if he
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  Speaker 4: wants to keeping five, Yeah, I could keep going, but
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  Speaker 4: I gotta go to bed and actually I'm hungry, and
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  Speaker 4: I also got to go to bed to get up
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  Speaker 4: for work. But aside from that, I would go downstop
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  Speaker 4: if I could. God bless you folks. I will see
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  Speaker 4: you when I see it. Godspeed, and as always go Bills,