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The Biggest Opportunity Is Still Ahead l Shawn Wright · To The Moon With The Luna's Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: Everybody says F the government, F the banks, F the institutions.
0:04
SPEAKER_00: So you say that, but you turn around and open up an X Money account backed and owned by banks and Elon Musk, who owns it.
0:13
SPEAKER_00: And I don't have a problem with any of those things.
0:15
SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, I have to call it pay-to-pay.
0:17
SPEAKER_00: I can't just say F all these institutions, banks, and everything like that, and then just go around and do this.
0:24
SPEAKER_00: Because me personally, I want to own my money.
0:26
SPEAKER_00: I want to own my time and I want to own the energy that I put in to earn that money.
0:31
SPEAKER_00: So the best asset for me and hopefully for everybody else that wants to be on the same path is to buy Bitcoin and more importantly, move it into cold storage.
0:41
SPEAKER_00: So now it's yours.
0:47
SPEAKER_02: All right, guys.
0:48
SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to the Moon with the Lunas podcast.
0:50
SPEAKER_02: Today we got Sean Wright, our first guest that we ever had on here.
0:54
SPEAKER_02: We're circling back.
0:55
SPEAKER_02: We chatted with him about the beginning of the year.
0:57
SPEAKER_02: So now we're at the midway point.
0:59
SPEAKER_02: He's the co-host of Hard Money Hustlers, uh, Bitwalks.
1:02
SPEAKER_02: And speaking about Bitwalks, too, I haven't seen a Bitwalk in a while.
1:05
SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna need to cover that, Sean.
1:07
SPEAKER_02: Uh man, he's just got so much going on in his life.
1:09
SPEAKER_02: We're just gonna catch up with him right now, talk some Bitcoin.
1:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh, this should be fun.
1:13
SPEAKER_02: Welcome back, Sean.
1:14
SPEAKER_02: Welcome back.
1:15
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:15
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:16
SPEAKER_00: Thank you all for having me.
1:16
SPEAKER_00: Thank you all for having me.
1:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
1:18
SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
1:18
SPEAKER_04: Oh, so good.
1:19
SPEAKER_04: Well, it's so good to have you back and just to kind of hear your insight.
1:23
SPEAKER_04: I always value all the videos that you post and all the things that you're doing right now.
1:28
SPEAKER_04: I feel like so much in six months happened, you know?
1:32
SPEAKER_04: And so one of those things was your guys' podcast, Hard Money Hustlers.
1:35
SPEAKER_04: That's super exciting for you guys.
1:37
SPEAKER_04: I'm so pumped for you.
1:38
SPEAKER_04: How has that been going?
1:41
SPEAKER_00: It's been going great, honestly.
1:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we I feel like we've all came together as a collective of me, Jordan, Johnmy, Nolan, Rashad.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: We all basically, we we all started off in like in a Twitter group chat all together.
1:55
SPEAKER_00: And it was basically just me, Nolan, Rashad first, and Jordan.
1:58
SPEAKER_00: And then uh Johnny came around and I was messaging her on the side because I don't really like bringing just dropping people in the group chats because I'm just like, I don't know how, I don't know how they would feel about it, and I don't want to end up ruffling any feathers.
2:11
SPEAKER_00: So it was just one day that I was talking to her and I was like, I was like, do you want to join?
2:15
SPEAKER_00: Do you want to join our group chat inside inside of uh our Twitter group chat?
2:18
SPEAKER_00: She was like, she's like, yeah.
2:19
SPEAKER_00: She's like, but honestly, I don't really be on Twitter that much.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: So I'd much rather just give you my number.
2:23
SPEAKER_00: We could just have like an iMessage chat.
2:25
SPEAKER_00: So then we just moved to our iMessage chat.
2:27
SPEAKER_00: So we basically just we talk in there like every day.
2:29
SPEAKER_00: We usually just be shooting the breeze up in there, whether it's just about Bitcoin, uh goals, building, AI.
2:35
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we just we literally just be in there talking like 24 24-7.
2:39
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, they're based in my family now.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: So I wouldn't even I'm I'm truly 100% grateful for all of them.
2:44
SPEAKER_00: They've all poured into me as well as me pouring into them.
2:47
SPEAKER_00: So I couldn't, I don't have any literally no negative to say about them.
2:51
SPEAKER_00: They are they are a family in my eyes.
2:53
SPEAKER_04: Well, that's so cool.
2:54
SPEAKER_04: I mean, you can tell when you guys are all talking together.
2:56
SPEAKER_04: It's just like you're trying as many, you know, it's hard to chat with everybody at the same time, but you guys do a really good job of like allowing each other express your ideas and insights, and you can you can just tell, especially when you're spending so much time together or talking about a podcast or even like coming up with that idea.
3:16
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I know for us, we like we're, you know, talking about this a lot, you know, like, oh, who do we have coming up?
3:22
SPEAKER_04: You know, let's let's see how we can uh like what are some thoughts that we want to change, or are we gonna meet with some people in the medical field?
3:28
SPEAKER_04: Are we gonna do this?
3:29
SPEAKER_04: You know, it's like so fun to be able to like chat and bounce ideas, right, with other people.
3:34
SPEAKER_04: And you guys have such a good uh chemistry, I feel like, on that, on that show.
3:39
SPEAKER_04: It's super cool.
3:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the um the uh it's it's great.
3:43
SPEAKER_02: Like we got Nolan traveling the world, we got Jordan, you know, he's like winning like strongest man competitions, you know.
3:51
SPEAKER_02: We got Rashad, he's getting better with his health, losing weight.
3:54
SPEAKER_02: You're getting married in a couple months, which is awesome.
3:57
SPEAKER_02: Congratulations again, and happy birthday.
3:59
SPEAKER_02: Today is Sean's birthday, everybody.
4:01
SPEAKER_02: Woo woo, let's go.
4:03
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, Xiaomi, she's amazing.
4:06
SPEAKER_02: I love like her mindset.
4:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what, I don't know, however her brain works, like I just love it.
4:11
SPEAKER_02: Like, I and you just shared right now how she'll just like hop on uh Twitter barely, she'll like drop fire, and then everybody will be like, this is crazy, walk away.
4:20
SPEAKER_02: Right?
4:21
SPEAKER_02: So just drop a bomb, walk away.
4:23
SPEAKER_02: So I think that's really cool that you guys did that.
4:25
SPEAKER_02: Um, hard money hustlers.
4:26
SPEAKER_02: And then you I saw you guys were seeing Kayla uh Prilla on there.
4:30
SPEAKER_02: She's a beast.
4:31
SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness.
4:32
SPEAKER_02: I like that podcast.
4:33
SPEAKER_02: She is a beast.
4:35
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, so I I love what you guys are doing there.
4:37
SPEAKER_02: Also, I wanted to kind of touch on too.
4:39
SPEAKER_02: I know you just recently dropped this video on um, you know, every generation has their wealth-building asset.
4:44
SPEAKER_02: And I thought I thought it was fire, in my opinion, uh, the way you broke everything down.
4:48
SPEAKER_02: And if you I would love to just touch on that, uh, we can go ahead and talk some Bitcoin on that too.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: Um for me, that was one of the videos I feel like that would be a video to whenever whenever the time comes and I and something happens, and I inevitably blow up and the page and then no, I don't even I don't even want to say blow up because I I don't really care about blowing up.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: But whenever we get done with the discipline and Bitcoin does what it does, I could already said I'm gonna be out of here.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna be on Twitter as much as I am now.
5:17
SPEAKER_00: So I feel like that would be one of the videos to where when people end up sweeting at me or whatever and saying, Sean, well, what do I have to do?
5:24
SPEAKER_00: What do I have to do to attain freedom?
5:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna be on Twitter, but I have my agent, I have my uh my AI agent on Twitter, uh link it to that video right there.
5:32
SPEAKER_00: But I feel like that'll be the that would be the video that kind of sets the tone for then our generation.
5:39
SPEAKER_00: Well, but by the time 2030 and everything comes, we'll be a little bit older.
5:42
SPEAKER_00: But the generation after us, I believe it's alpha, if I'm not mistaken.
5:45
SPEAKER_00: But for that generation, nothing changes.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: If anything, the stipulation probably got worse.
5:51
SPEAKER_00: The money, the money printer will go off regardless.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: The debt will be, I think we're about to hit 40 trillion, and it'll probably be 40 in the 40, what, 45, 50 trillion by then.
6:02
SPEAKER_00: So if anything, the problem will only be worse for the younger the generation.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: So whenever I get asked that question, that's why I already said, that would probably be the video that will it didn't really get the the buzz that it had to now, because now people are just more stagnant in their ways and they're kind of just stuck in the doom gloom loop of just national media and just seeing negativity from the wake up at whatever time they wake up to the go to sleep right before they put the phone down.
6:28
SPEAKER_00: So I feel like that would be a video that just kind of takes off later in life.
6:32
SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like if we I was just a little bit too early with that, and who cares?
6:36
SPEAKER_00: I'd rather have it out and then not have it out at all.
6:38
SPEAKER_00: But basically, just to sum it up, the the boomers had the housing, had they they had cheap housing.
6:44
SPEAKER_00: So they were able to buy houses for very cheap relative to their income back then.
6:49
SPEAKER_00: The older millennials and I guess I could say middle, middle-aged millennials as well, they had the post-2008 stock market bubble and and the 2000 stock market bubble as well.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: What was it?
6:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: Like everybody was freaking out when it's it switched from 1999 to 2000.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: Why am I not thinking of the Y2K?
7:06
SPEAKER_04: Y2K.
7:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Y2K, thank you.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
7:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but the Y2K, the Y2K bubble as well.
7:12
SPEAKER_00: Those two bubbles really helped the millennials achieve a lot of their wealth and their freedom that they had and their purchasing power growth.
7:18
SPEAKER_00: So, with those two things, yes, they achieved a lot of wealth, wealth growth and purchasing power growth, but it also attained to more money getting printed as well.
7:28
SPEAKER_00: So, yes, your Robin Hood went to the up and to the right, as I always say, but you're able to buy less things over time.
7:35
SPEAKER_00: So I say all that for my generation, Gen Z and under, and even, I mean, even if you are millennial, you can buy big and go ahead and buy Bitcoin.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: But for my millennial and younger, I think our asset will be Bitcoin, just strictly off of the fact that it can't be diluted, it can't be inflated, it can't be printed, and nobody owns it.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: So everybody says, well, F the government, F the banks, F the institutions.
8:00
SPEAKER_00: So you say that, but you turn around and open up an X money account owned backed and owned by banks and Elon Musk, who owns it.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: And I don't have a problem with any of those things.
8:11
SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, I gotta, I have to call it spade to spade.
8:14
SPEAKER_00: You can't just say F all these institutions, banks, and everything like that, and then just go around and do that and do this because me personally, I want to own my money.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: I want to own my time and I want to own the energy that I put in to earn that money.
8:28
SPEAKER_00: So the best asset for me and hopefully for everybody else that wants to be on the same path is to buy Bitcoin and more importantly, move it into cold storage.
8:38
SPEAKER_00: So now it's yours.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: It's not anybody else's.
8:42
SPEAKER_00: Nobody can take it from you, nobody can um nobody can steal it from you, nobody can I mean nobody it's it's yours.
8:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I can't explain no better way than that.
8:52
SPEAKER_00: So that's basically like the quick rundown of that video.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: No, yeah, that no, that's really good.
8:58
SPEAKER_02: Um uh, you know, people were gonna be like, oh my gosh, like wow, uh Sean was way ahead of his time type of deal.
9:03
SPEAKER_02: I saw it like that as well.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: And the way you the way we look at it too, it goes back to that you will own nothing and be happy, right?
9:11
SPEAKER_02: And I think people don't understand how that's slowly integrating, that little chokehold's coming in.
9:16
SPEAKER_02: They just talked about what uh iPhones are gonna lead to them, right?
9:19
SPEAKER_02: Because once you do the history of something, do the history of the money, then you can see into the future.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: And we just learned this too with health.
9:26
SPEAKER_02: Like we'll have an episode coming out soon with health, where once you learn more about our health and how we used to do things back then, it's very interesting on how we do things now.
9:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right?
9:35
SPEAKER_02: And so it's very, very interesting on doing the history.
9:38
SPEAKER_02: So going back to like you will own nothing and be happy, it's very interesting how like it's happening now.
9:44
SPEAKER_02: And then in the future, they're gonna be like, hey, how can we how do we not see this?
9:47
SPEAKER_02: How do we not know this was gonna happen?
9:49
SPEAKER_02: Also wanted to touch on um congrats on getting to one Bitcoin.
9:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, that's amazing.
9:54
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
9:55
SPEAKER_02: I think that's amazing for how young you are, how being able to understand the importance of Bitcoin and where we're going into the future.
10:02
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think that's amazing.
10:03
SPEAKER_02: As Chris Johnson would say, you know, it's it shows that you give a fuck, right?
10:08
SPEAKER_02: And so um congratulations on that, man.
10:11
SPEAKER_02: Also would love to touch on if you can kind of share with everybody.
10:14
SPEAKER_02: You just dropped a new uh um uh a new app, right?
10:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh it looks like our new website.
10:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh that I kind of mess with it a little bit.
10:22
SPEAKER_02: Um I need to like get more heavily involved, but like if you don't mind sharing that, like that's dope, right?
10:27
SPEAKER_02: We could just build things out here, right?
10:29
SPEAKER_03: We can just do things.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: Literally.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: Look, that that that box, I can't point to it.
10:34
SPEAKER_00: The the box right here, this has been my best investment of 2020, what is that, 2025?
10:39
SPEAKER_00: I bought it like right at the end of 2025.
10:41
SPEAKER_00: That Mac, that Mac Mini has been one of my best investments of uh for my personal self.
10:47
SPEAKER_00: But before we get into that, the nominated, that's what I dropped.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: That's the website that I dropped, and I want to make it into a standalone uh iPhone app.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: But the gist of denominated is that you're able to, and we have a lot of calculators that show you um how to price something inside of Bitcoin, but for denominated, the gist of it is just for somebody to price what they would want in Bitcoin, and then you can actually see how much purchasing power was decreased if you saved inside of dollars for that thing instead.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: So for example, um I have a big panel of just examples, um, like elder care, retirement, wedding.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh I think I put a car, yeah, I put a Model 3 in there.
11:27
SPEAKER_00: Um basically there's a lot of examples of the things that a lot of people just want or will need to have in the future.
11:33
SPEAKER_00: So for elder care, the the average, I think the average median for ever for elder care is like 6,500 a month, if I'm not mistaken.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: I forgot how much Bitcoin it is.
11:41
SPEAKER_00: It's like point whatever, 000, let's just say six of a Bitcoin.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: And with that, now that we know the the CPI track of it, I think it grows at, if I'm not mistaken, I think it grows at 10%.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: And let me see, I'll pull up the nominator right here on the side.
11:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and well, you're pulling that up too.
11:58
SPEAKER_02: Uh out here, I actually worked a year into like Medicare and uh Medi-Cal, all that stuff.
12:03
SPEAKER_02: Uh Medi-Cal's like, I guess, it's like a it's like one for California for uh low income.
12:09
SPEAKER_02: And so what happens is that I used to actually put people on long-term care, right?
12:14
SPEAKER_02: There's a there's policies that actually would put people on long-term care.
12:17
SPEAKER_02: And out here, if you're just putting someone like an assisted living, it's like 10K a month.
12:22
SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
12:23
SPEAKER_02: It's 10K a month.
12:26
SPEAKER_02: It's wild.
12:26
SPEAKER_02: I would talk to because I would talk to these people when I would help them with their, you know, put them on their Medicare plan.
12:32
SPEAKER_02: I would talk to their kids, right?
12:33
SPEAKER_02: They're sometimes they're like, hey, talk to my kids, they handle it, blah, blah, blah.
12:36
SPEAKER_02: I would talk to them.
12:37
SPEAKER_02: And then I would ask them, like, man, this place is super nice.
12:40
SPEAKER_02: Like, what's the what's the what's the rate at like it?
12:42
SPEAKER_02: Cause we live, we live in Orange County, right?
12:44
SPEAKER_02: We're it and it's insane.
12:46
SPEAKER_02: These places are super nice and decked out, but like, man, it's actually like an empty house uh type of deal because these people like they hate it.
12:54
SPEAKER_02: They hate it there, you know, and then and then they're like, We're paying all this money.
12:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, how much you pay for?
12:59
SPEAKER_02: Because I I you know we getting we're getting into their weeds, right?
13:02
SPEAKER_02: And so they're like 10k, like the average was like 10k a month uh for uh assisted living, which is wild.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: I shoot and I was about to say, I I probably a hundred percent agree with you.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm about to say for 10k, I was gonna expect because the average, that's why I was cool now right here.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: Let me see.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: If I'm able to share my screen, I might just share it out.
13:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, sure.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: There we go.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: Cool.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: There we go.
13:25
SPEAKER_00: So the average the average elder care amount inside the US for now is$5,419 a month, which is 0.0836 Bitcoin a month.
13:40
SPEAKER_00: And in the future, if it grows at a there we go, it grows at an 8.1 a year inflation rate in the future in a five-year horizon, it'll be just around$8,000 a month for your elder care.
13:53
SPEAKER_00: So with that, Bitcoin currently is at$64,858.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: And then in the future, let's just say it grows at the at a 15% uh K Gar.
14:03
SPEAKER_00: In five years, it'll be$130,452 Bitcoin.
14:07
SPEAKER_00: And this is a and this 15% K Gar is very very bearish for me because at 130, we're I I'm hoping I'm expecting to see that before 2030.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: So this 130 number is very, very low in my eyes.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: I try to keep it as conservative as possible.
14:23
SPEAKER_00: But the point being is that you go from today paying 0.0836 of a Bitcoin a month for your elder care to paying 0.0613.
14:32
SPEAKER_00: So now that elder care just got 26%, 26.6% cheaper in Bitcoin terms.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: And that's the whole point.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: That's the whole point of denominator, just to show you how whatever you want to buy in this world with your with your dollars or whatever you're saving for, or whatever you have to pay monthly, if you use that fiat to pay for it instead of just saving, if you can instead of just saving that monthly, that monthly dollar amount in Bitcoin, it actually gets cheaper over time for you to live your life.
14:59
SPEAKER_00: And that's the whole point.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: That's the whole point.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: We want we should want our lives to get cheaper the longer that we live.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: We don't want we do we shouldn't want our lives to get more expensive the longer that we live.
15:09
SPEAKER_00: So the nominated really is just uh it's really just a benchmark to show you how much how much expensive dollars make your life compared to Bitcoin instead of living on a Bitcoin standard and Bitcoin terms and make your life.
15:22
SPEAKER_00: So I just why I usually just say if you want your life to get cheaper, save inside of Bitcoin.
15:28
SPEAKER_00: And then you get the skeptics and everything like that since Bitcoin's in a little consolidation period now.
15:33
SPEAKER_00: Well, Bitcoin's down 45%.
15:35
unknown: Yeah.
15:35
SPEAKER_00: 45% right now.
15:37
SPEAKER_00: And my thing is that's cool.
15:39
SPEAKER_00: So if my favorite shoes were at a 50% discount, I'm gonna buy the shoes.
15:43
SPEAKER_00: Or if my favorite card, if my LC500 is at a 50% discount at the Lexus dealership, I'm gonna buy the Lexus today.
15:50
SPEAKER_00: So it's the same thing.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: If you want, if you want freedom, if you want your life to get less expensive, and there's an asset out there that's at a 50% sale, you should be buying two times more of that asset now than when you were at 126 when we were just there.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's basically just the gist of the denominated.
16:09
SPEAKER_04: I love that, Sean.
16:10
SPEAKER_04: That is so cool.
16:11
SPEAKER_04: I think it's great for people just to get a like, you know, maybe newer into the Bitcoin space or or are trying to figure out like how does this relate to life, how does this relate to our dollar system, you know, the system.
16:23
SPEAKER_04: I think that is so cool that you created that.
16:25
SPEAKER_04: Because even for me, I'm like, I'm gonna explore that with Anthony and be like, okay, let's play around with numbers here because that helps me.
16:32
SPEAKER_04: Because when you're growing up in a system of, you know, dollars and all of that, you want to see how this relates, you know, how Bitcoin relates to make it kind of in uh, you know, kindergarten terms, if you will, just to be able to have a visual of what's going on here, right?
16:48
SPEAKER_04: So I think that's super amazing what you what you've created.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh going back to it's so funny how human nature is where if things go on sale and then all of a sudden like no one wants to buy.
16:57
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't make any sense.
16:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, and then but then it'll go up to like 126 again or 100k and everyone's like flooding the gates to try to try to get in.
17:05
SPEAKER_02: It's it just doesn't make any sense.
17:07
SPEAKER_02: I I just got a message yesterday, actually, like I don't know if these are bottom signals or what, but somebody was like, hey man, you told me to look into crypto and everybody lost millions and billions of dollars.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, man, I haven't lost a dollar.
17:21
SPEAKER_02: I haven't lost a dollar since I've been in it.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know what you're I don't know what you're saying.
17:25
SPEAKER_02: I never told you to look into crypto.
17:28
SPEAKER_02: You know, and so it's just so funny, like how the how human nature is when it comes to the price action.
17:34
SPEAKER_02: One Bitcoin is still one Bitcoin.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: Like, we're what are we talking about, right?
17:38
SPEAKER_02: And then and then they'll even and then someone else shared with me the other day, they were like, hey, um, you aren't you scared that Bitcoin's going to zero.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, bro, I you should be more concerned about the dollar going to zero than Bitcoin going to zero.
17:52
SPEAKER_02: Do you like like when they actually hear stuff come out of their mouth, it's just like, man, like all I want to do is help you, man.
17:58
SPEAKER_02: All I I want to lead you to the water fountain, man.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: But like nobody wants to drink it.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: Nobody wants to drink this Kool-Aid that's that's so good, right?
18:05
SPEAKER_02: And so it's just interesting.
18:07
SPEAKER_02: It's just interesting.
18:09
SPEAKER_00: I really think it's human nature too.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: I think because nobody wants, like how you mentioned nobody wants to drink Kool-Aid while somebody just poured quote unquote poured sand inside of it now that we're down 40, 45, 50%.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: But and it's crazy because uh Johnny talks about it all the time.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: Just the human nature, just the human nature of people.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: When you want somebody to succeed, and when you want somebody to actually rise up and elevate more than you, they usually take it as a sign of a threat almost.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: Like they don't, they don't want you to level up.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: They want you to stay inside the same, the same low point that you were at before you got here, right?
18:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, like for me, um the last year since uh I figured out money basically, since we all figured out money.
18:51
SPEAKER_00: But I was like, like how Chris, like how Chris always says, we figured out money, so let's figure out every other aspect of our lives, right?
18:57
SPEAKER_00: So from November till now, I've lost 30 pounds.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: Um I lost 30 pounds.
19:04
SPEAKER_00: I've ended up taking up, I mean, I mean, I've just been taking up a whole bunch of different hobbies, like just building things, like the whole, like all my stuff with the Mac Mini, the whole AI infrastructure that I've building up, the home lab that I have down here.
19:15
SPEAKER_00: You can't see it because the camera's here, but I I've basically just been trying to sovereign, I guess I could say solidify and sovereign my life as much as I possibly can now that I figured out money.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: There's the money, the the money thing really doesn't make my life any better or worse now.
19:31
SPEAKER_00: Cause I already know what's we know what the math is, we know what's gonna happen, and we know what the Fed will do.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: But I say all that to say people end up seeing that and they're just like Man, Sean, you you switched up.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: Like you're not the same, the same person from back at home in in Fairville, North Carolina.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: Like you it's like you just went, you went corporate on this.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, so you're mad at me for just growing?
19:51
SPEAKER_00: Isn't that the whole isn't that the whole way of human life?
19:55
SPEAKER_00: Why would you want to be in the same spot that you were in 2016 and 2026?
19:59
SPEAKER_00: My life should get better every single time you see me almost.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: So like even inside the podcast, from January of 20 of 2026 when we first came on, till now in July, I mean, is my life did a uh 10x.
20:13
SPEAKER_00: So it's like, and I'm pretty sure you all's lives have done 10x as well.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: So it's like you shouldn't want to be in that same spot, whether it's short term or long term.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: Because I mean, obviously, short term is volatility, just like just like Bitcoin.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's good moments, it's bad moments.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: But overall, from J from January to that next December, your life should be on a uh up version to the right path.
20:35
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I just I really just think it's a human nature thing.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: Whenever Bitcoin does what it does, and we're back at 26%, I mean 126k, and basically everything that you bought now in the 60s has done a 2x, basically.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, people are gonna say, Well, you're you're so left.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: Why didn't y'all do this?
20:52
SPEAKER_00: Why didn't y'all do that?
20:53
SPEAKER_00: No, I I sat here, I showed you what to do, and you just didn't want to follow.
20:58
SPEAKER_00: So now I'm so now I'm victory lapping around you 10 times over because you didn't want to follow the simple directions of just buy, live your life, contribute to society, and create value.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: So I can't really do nothing else I can do.
21:12
SPEAKER_04: It creates such a simple mindset, right?
21:15
SPEAKER_04: Because once you really understand the money system, once you understand all like what Anthony was talking about, kind of the history of it all, and you start really investing into Bitcoin, you're you understand it.
21:25
SPEAKER_04: So your mindset is so much more clear and you're not worried about, you know, certain things.
21:31
SPEAKER_04: So then you are able to then create and make and do and spend time with people who you value, all of that, you know.
21:38
SPEAKER_04: So I think that's something that I've learned in this process too, of of learning more about Bitcoin.
21:43
SPEAKER_04: It's like everything becomes a little bit more simple and you're not so um fear based, which our society loves, right?
21:50
SPEAKER_04: People love to live in fear.
21:52
SPEAKER_04: They love that's I think another thing that goes to when it shoots up to, you know, it's when it shoots up to 130 or whatever we're, you know.
22:00
SPEAKER_04: Whatever, whenever that happens, that's when people start buying because they're like, oh shoot, fear, fear, fear.
22:05
SPEAKER_04: I didn't do this.
22:06
SPEAKER_04: I didn't do this.
22:06
SPEAKER_04: Right.
22:07
SPEAKER_04: So it's it's a really interesting thing.
22:09
SPEAKER_04: It just that just came up to me.
22:11
SPEAKER_04: But I was thinking about that.
22:12
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, that comes from fear.
22:14
SPEAKER_04: You know, that's a fear response is oh shoot, I'm late.
22:19
SPEAKER_04: You know, exactly.
22:20
SPEAKER_04: FOMO, exactly.
22:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh-oh.
22:22
SPEAKER_04: Uh-oh, FOMO.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: I didn't even put that together.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Like, I was about to say you just put a light bulb, man.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: I did not put that together at all.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: Like, why people just just bundle in whenever the the price goes up and to the right.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: I never put that together at all until you just said that.
22:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: That was an amazing analogy.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's why.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: And then also, too, like when you say like, because once you get the money thing out the way, now you can actually focus on things that matter, your health, right?
22:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh, let me create, let me create this, uh, let me create this website.
22:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh, let me let me bust out this video, let me do this, let me go travel the world, let me go, you know, XYZ.
22:55
SPEAKER_02: That's why that's once you get the money thing out the way, and then you can focus on things that actually matter.
22:59
SPEAKER_02: And it it's just it's just dope.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: And then when it comes to like the podcast, like we're just trying to add value, we're trying to help you and like get the message out because I want other people to see where well the light that we saw, right?
23:10
SPEAKER_02: And so it all it just it all just comes, it all comes down to you know, even personal.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: People need to just grow personally and just be like, man, like, you know what, let me see what Sean's doing.
23:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, he's doing this, he's talking this, he's he's actually he got results, he's looking better, right?
23:24
SPEAKER_02: He's doing this.
23:24
SPEAKER_02: Like, let me just let me just see what this guy's talking about and be curious, right?
23:29
SPEAKER_02: I I you know people just think need to be curious when until it comes to Bitcoin.
23:32
SPEAKER_02: Bitcoin's everywhere right now, right?
23:34
SPEAKER_02: People are talking about, I mean, uh, I'm gonna say people more people talk about Bitcoin now, but Bitcoin is very bearish, doom gloom right now, where people are at, but with their mindset.
23:44
SPEAKER_02: But I, you know, again, I love it.
23:46
SPEAKER_02: Going back to that, Sean, we hopped on this podcast in the beginning of the year.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: Bitcoin was 87k.
23:51
SPEAKER_02: Bitcoin now is like 65k.
23:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what is where it's at right now.
23:56
SPEAKER_02: We're buying or selling.
23:59
SPEAKER_00: I ain't never pressed the sold button in my life.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: I never pressed it.
24:03
SPEAKER_00: And I and the thing is, this whole price movement has literally been the big, the biggest blessing for me.
24:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:09
SPEAKER_00: Because I wouldn't have been, and I came in when I was heavily, when I started really heavily buying Bitcoin at the end of 2024, right before the big old run-up to 2020, that meant 2025, the big old run-up to 100K, um, I was like, I I literally just put made a personal vendetta to myself.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, if I had to buy a whole coin at like 140,000, I'm I'm I'm I'm willing and ready to do it.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: So I was fully, I might I had my whole mindset fully ready to buy a whole coin at 100,000, just grinding it out, just slowly chopping at the bit.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: So then we go up to 126.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, it looks like it's gonna happen.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: So now we get this big consolidation period down.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm sitting here, man.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm like how I always do my videos, I'm over here doing this.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: It's like I'm I'm excited.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, I didn't get a chance, I didn't get a chance to buy a whole coin in 2021 when when we were at these prices already.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: So I have one more chance to get this right.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: And I'm not gonna waste it.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: Because if you waste it now, that might that literally might be it.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: The same way everybody said, well, 2021's prices might be it.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Guess what?
25:11
SPEAKER_00: We're right back here.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: You just you literally time travel.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Nobody's invented time travel except Bitcoin.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: This is the only way, this is what I feel like could be your last, somebody's last opportunity to get a whole coin.
25:23
SPEAKER_00: Because at 126, like how Chris always mentions, that's a year's worth of somebody's salary.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: But at 67k, that's that's hopefully a half a year's worth of somebody's salary.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: It could, it probably is, is it must most likely would be somebody else's one whole year worth of salary.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: But it's way more doable to get to 60, 60 to 65k for a whole coin than 126, and it's way less daunting.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: So that's why I'm like, right now, my big focus is just pushing out as many businesses as I can because I have a couple, I guess I have like a couple side hustles that I do on the side, and everything that I do goes straight into Bitcoin.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't even I think I save like 20% for taxes and then 20% for uh expanding on the business that I have.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: But other than that, everything else goes straight into Bitcoin because I know what will happen.
26:11
SPEAKER_00: We already know what's gonna happen.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: We did the research.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: So it's like you have a second opportunity at life.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: And no, it's like you it's like you're literally playing a video game.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: You play a video game, you end up falling off the map, and you end up dying in a video game.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: But guess what?
26:25
SPEAKER_00: You respawned.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: This is this this is basically your respawn period right now.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: So I'm tired of hearing people say, well, I don't know, Sean, it might go to zero.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: This this is a big crash.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: If you look at the the whole overall chart in 20, I think it was 2020 when the the FTX crash happened.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: The chart looks exactly the same from 2020 to 2024.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: It had that big run up, then the FCX crash happened, then it went down, and then it went back up again, and then it went down again for that big, that big consolidation period in 2024 when it was just stuck between like 35 and 45 or whatever, 4550.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: And then after that, that's when it shot up to 100 to 100k plus.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: So I'm not gonna say it repeats, the chart repeats itself, but it's looking very similar.
27:11
SPEAKER_00: And it looks like we're just right at that consolidation period down right before it shot back up to 100k.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: So this time, I'm I would be expecting it to shoot back up to 130, 140 plus, whatever the number is.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't really care.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: I want more Bitcoin.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: I don't really care about the dollar price.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: If I don't have enough Bitcoin, it don't matter, it doesn't matter to me.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
27:29
SPEAKER_04: So good.
27:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I love I love your mindset around it.
27:32
SPEAKER_04: I think that it helps people to realize that you can actually create and earn more in this fiat system so that you can put it into Bitcoin, you know, because I think sometimes people feel like I don't have enough time in the day or I don't have enough, you know, and I feel like it this is such a great example of building capacity.
27:52
SPEAKER_04: I always say, like, I always, you know, we have a faith, so I'm always praying for more capacity, you know, because we do have more, everyone has the same hours in the day, but some but how people use their hours is completely different, right?
28:05
SPEAKER_04: And you're doing so many amazing things right now, just hearing like, oh, I'm I'm planning on two different businesses, I'm you know, building an app, I'm you know, also working, I'm also like all of those things.
28:16
SPEAKER_04: You're getting married.
28:17
SPEAKER_04: Like these builds the you're you you're showing people that you can build capacity if it means something to you.
28:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's such an important thing.
28:28
SPEAKER_04: And I pray for that all the time because I'm like, we are we're all busy.
28:32
SPEAKER_04: We have three kids.
28:32
SPEAKER_04: We have, you know, we have we have an a traditional nine to five, you know.
28:36
SPEAKER_04: We have those, and then we also do our podcasts.
28:40
SPEAKER_04: We also want to, you know, add value to the world and you know, seeing ways that we can expand ourselves in this realm too.
28:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so it's very interesting, and it's really it's you're such a great example to people.
28:51
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
28:52
SPEAKER_04: Um, like you know, just even your circle, you know, and that's why you guys, uh hard money hustlers are such a tight group because all of you build capacity and show that in how you live your life.
29:02
SPEAKER_04: And I love that.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: To encompass all that, we can just do things out here, bro.
29:07
SPEAKER_02: We can just do things.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: It's 2026.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: Totally.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: Like every excuse goes out the window.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: We got the internet and we got Bitcoin.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: Like, literally, everything goes out the window.
29:17
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
29:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, no more.
29:18
SPEAKER_02: My pet peeve is when someone's like complains or they're lazy.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, when they're lazy, oh my goodness.
29:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I'll run, I'll run the other way.
29:26
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm gone, I'm gone.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't understand how someone can like have this.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh man, like I don't got enough time.
29:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh my god.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: Like, that should be the reason why you should be making moves.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh man, I'm I'm unhealthy.
29:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, that should be the reason why you should be working out.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: Like all of these things, yeah, or walking.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: Like, right?
29:47
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, talking about walking.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: What's up with big walks, man?
29:50
SPEAKER_02: Where are you been at?
29:51
SPEAKER_02: Where are you been at?
29:54
SPEAKER_00: I have I've literally been like how like how Danielle mentioned, my capacity had just been so grounded into all the other things, but don't get it twisted.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: I've still been walking every single day.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm about to say, I pull up, I can pull up my dang, my steps.
30:09
SPEAKER_04: We believe you.
30:10
SPEAKER_04: Don't feel like you have to.
30:12
SPEAKER_02: We got we believe the proof of work.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: You lost 30 pounds, uh.
30:15
SPEAKER_02: We know we know you're we know you're doing more than that.
30:18
SPEAKER_04: You're doing something right.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so we try to.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, every day, I mean, even before here, I woke even today.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: I took the day off.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: I took today and tomorrow off, but even before here, I woke up at six.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: I usually wake up at six every morning and do like a quick little 20, 30 minute walks in the morning just for my my morning affirmations, my gratitude, and then my morning prayer in the morning.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: So I try to do all that stuff in the morning just to set yourself up for a good day, even though you might just have the worst day of your life.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: But guess what?
30:45
SPEAKER_00: You did what you had to do at the very at the very minimum.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: So but yeah, the only thing about the bit walks is I just really and I think I've gotten to a point where I'm like, I just want to make sure this is good content.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: Because if Johnny was here, she'd be saying the same thing.
31:00
SPEAKER_00: She'd she'd be like, dude, just post, just post.
31:02
SPEAKER_00: Just post, just do what you gotta do and post.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: So I have so much stuff just lined up.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: And I have a couple, I have literally just videos on videos on videos just inside my photo gallery that I just haven't posted because I don't know what has gone on with me, but I've turned into like a perfectionist.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: And before, when I first started Bitwalks, I didn't even care.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: I was just like, I'm gonna just post my foot, I'm gonna just get it in and then I'm gonna edit it real fast and I'm gonna just post it.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: So I think I just need to get back into that mode of where I don't really care about being a perfectionist while still giving everybody the quality and still giving quality research behind it.
31:34
SPEAKER_00: But that was that was really just my thing.
31:36
SPEAKER_00: I just gotten to a point where I was like, man, I'm recording all these videos, but is it good enough?
31:42
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know where it came from.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: Cause for me, my confidence is through the roof.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean, nobody can really talk me down off of anything unless it's just like something very dumb.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't I don't even know.
31:52
SPEAKER_00: It has to be like something extraordinarily dumb for you to talk me out of a out of a decision.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, my I feel like my confidence is through the roof.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: It's just that I just want to make sure everything is good enough for the quality that I want to give out, like denominated.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: I think I worked on the nominated for a smooth maybe three, four months before I even put out a beta version.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: So now everything's good to go all the way.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: And we we was just stress testing it like Jordan and everybody else inside the inside of the hard money.
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32:53
SPEAKER_00: So I I feel like I've gotten to that perfectionist mode, and I think everybody would just tell me, like, dude, just drop it and then just edit or and just adapt around it.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: I think that's that's probably the best way for me.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:06
SPEAKER_04: I think because you've been in such a building mode to build a an app or to build a business, there's going to be intricacies and uh details that you're going to be seeing that other people aren't and you want it to all flow well.
33:21
SPEAKER_04: Cause when you want it to be user-friendly, you want these things to work out.
33:25
SPEAKER_04: So yes, the perfection, it totally makes sense that you're in a perfectionist mindset right now.
33:30
SPEAKER_04: Um, but you have so much value, Sean, to share.
33:34
SPEAKER_04: Like because like you do, you have such a great insight and knowledge, and um, maybe something might it might not click for everybody, but it might click for someone.
33:43
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
33:44
SPEAKER_04: And that's why, like, even for us when we started this podcast, we don't know who's listening.
33:48
SPEAKER_04: I mean, we hope people are we're adding value, but like at the same time, like who cares?
33:54
SPEAKER_04: Like, at least if there's some other, you know, a woman in Bitcoin that like sees me on here or who her husband's on, you know, learning about Bitcoin and she doesn't really know much.
34:04
SPEAKER_04: Maybe it inspires her to be like, oh, there's like partners in this, you know, oh, they're doing something together.
34:09
SPEAKER_04: And maybe it's just one one one family that we can kind of help and support in that way, you know.
34:15
SPEAKER_04: But again, you just gotta do it, you know?
34:17
SPEAKER_04: And I like like you said, you already know that you need to do it.
34:20
SPEAKER_04: It's just you've been to give yourself some grace too, because I feel like you've been in a uh perfectionist mindset because you're trying to add value and you're also building something that's so detail-oriented.
34:35
unknown: Yeah.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: And I I I a hundred percent agree as well.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: I just think I just feel like um we just gotta do it.
34:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you just gotta rip the bandage off.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: And I'm talking, I'm I'm really just talking to myself now.
34:46
SPEAKER_00: I just think I just gotta go ahead and just rip the bandage back off again.
34:49
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what happened between me ripping it off initially and then just slowly putting it back on.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: But I think I just gotta start from ground zero again.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh it's a it's basically I I this this I hit a new age, so now I'm basically I call this day one again.
35:01
SPEAKER_00: I can call this day one.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: So y'all basically had just inspired me again just to go in and just just post again, just post again, post again.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: Birthday drop.
35:10
SPEAKER_04: We're just gonna do a birthday drop.
35:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:14
SPEAKER_00: I want to jump back to Okay, cool.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: I want to jump back to the topic of um just people being lazy and just I don't know, I I hate to say lazy.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: I mean it's it's a strong word, but people just not wanting to put in the discipline and the work for um for what they want or what they actually need or what I believe they they should have.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: So, and what I mentioned with that, when you mentioned that that you both have your family, your three kids, and you're still able to do everything else that y'all do.
35:41
SPEAKER_00: And Anthony, I see you on on the timeline all day doing your push-ups, doing your exercises.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: So it's like y'all still have time to do what makes you physically, um, financially, um, emotionally, um intelligently uh smart.
35:56
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's why I'm like, I I don't even like giving myself excuses anymore because I mean we have Rashad.
36:01
SPEAKER_00: Rashad has seven kids and he's still able to post his content, he's still able to um buy Bitcoin consistently, he's still able to pay off debts consistently.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: So it's like if if I sit here uh inside the chat and I complain, and I'll be like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
36:16
SPEAKER_00: Rashad literally is doing everything that I'm doing times seven though.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: So I can't even, I don't want to even throw my complaints out there because the only person that could be that should be complaining inside that chat is Rashad.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: So I just and I hate to sound like and I don't want to sound like I'm I'm ableist or anything like that.
36:33
SPEAKER_00: But as Anthony mentioned, it's like we have we literally have this brick right here with all with unlimited knowledge inside it.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you you can literally just sit on your couch, build something, market something, all the way from the beginning idea all the way to production deployment from your phone or from your laptop.
36:52
SPEAKER_00: So it's like I really just hate a complainer and I hate somebody that says, I can't, I can't, I can't.
36:58
SPEAKER_00: You keep saying that you can't, and then you're never gonna do it.
37:00
SPEAKER_00: And then somebody else rolls around, takes your idea, because I feel like if an idea is wasted, somebody else is gonna have that same idea hit their brain, they're gonna push it out, and then you're gonna see it.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: Well, he's copying me or she's copying me.
37:12
SPEAKER_00: No, they took advantage of the idea that God gave them and you didn't.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: So you can't, you can't give me, you can't say that somebody copied you because you didn't take advantage of the idea.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: So that's what I would just like to say to people, man, just uh just do.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: Literally, just just do.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: Do 1%.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: You don't even have to you don't have to start from beginning here and then finish it out at the end of the day.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: If you can just go in, do your nine to five, do whatever you had to do during the day, and then at night, you don't have to even give yourself the full night.
37:41
SPEAKER_00: Give yourself like an hour block.
37:43
SPEAKER_00: Just something that that says I did something extra, or like whether it's just reading a book, like I have these two books, and I'm finishing up um Modern Chains again with my annotations.
37:53
SPEAKER_00: I love man, I have I love this book so much.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: And I have I have fiat ruins, everything.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: I think it's somewhere back there in the living room.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: But I man, just doing one hour a day, just building out something consistently and then just marking it down.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: Like I have my journal, I have my my calendar up here that I just mark down with my notes and stuff like that.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: So that's why I would say I just I don't want to see I and I hate to see anybody that says I can't do something because you're literally, you're you're literally telling your brain that I've I my wires in my brain can't do something.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: And then when you say that, it just rips off on everybody else.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: And for me, like how Anthony said, I'm gone, I'm leaving.
38:30
SPEAKER_00: So I'm not even trying to hear that.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: And when you all with kids, do you I well about I don't want to flip the the the podcast on and ask y'all a quick thing.
38:38
SPEAKER_00: Hey, we're talking Bitcoin.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: We're talking Bitcoin.
38:43
SPEAKER_00: So when you all with your kids, do you do you all instill that same mindset with them like the like try to alleviate the I can't mentality?
38:50
SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like I feel like with kids, it's the easiest, it's the easiest thing for them to just learn good traits and good habits because they don't have they don't have any rubrics to go off of.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: You're basically the rubric.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: So when you teach them those good habits, I feel like it just rubs off on them so much more.
39:06
SPEAKER_00: So I didn't know if you all did something similar for for your children.
39:10
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
39:10
SPEAKER_04: I, you know, I'm actually going through this with our oldest.
39:13
SPEAKER_04: She's well, she's six, but um the other day she said, I can't do this.
39:17
SPEAKER_04: I like and I and I said, if you s and I've always said this because I worked in education for so long, but if you say you can't, you won't.
39:25
SPEAKER_04: If you say you can't, you won't.
39:26
SPEAKER_04: But if you say you can, you will.
39:28
SPEAKER_04: It's not gonna be perfect, it's gonna, but you're going to make that progress, right?
39:32
SPEAKER_04: You can't do it yet, you know?
39:33
SPEAKER_04: And I've we've always done like the power of yet.
39:36
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if anyone's ever heard of that, but that's a big like mindset shift for kids and like a growth mindset mentality is to say yet, you know, um after things.
39:45
SPEAKER_04: Um, and I think I'm really trying because yes, you can't do it, but you can't do it yet.
39:51
SPEAKER_04: And especially when you say, I can't, I can't go to sleep, I can't rest, I can't, you that means that you're telling me you're not going to do those things.
39:59
SPEAKER_04: So let's let's see how we can.
40:01
SPEAKER_04: I can sleep, I can rest, and then eventually you will, you know?
40:06
SPEAKER_04: And so that's just something that we've always talked about.
40:09
SPEAKER_04: I did a whole last two summers ago.
40:11
SPEAKER_04: I researched a lot about like neuroplasticity too, about like how we can build different uh wavelengths into our brain to actually change the way our brain thinks about things.
40:22
SPEAKER_04: And your brain can move, it can change, it can, you can tell it that you can do things, you can grow in capacity, you can do all those things.
40:31
SPEAKER_04: So it's really important for us, I think, as parents to really instill that in our kids.
40:36
SPEAKER_04: But in general, even for us, like we're we're flawed people.
40:40
SPEAKER_04: There's gonna be times where we're like super overwhelmed where like there's times where I feel like I am not doing as much as I probably should, but I feel like I'm doing more than what other people are doing.
40:51
SPEAKER_04: But in in your hardest critic, right?
40:54
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
40:55
SPEAKER_04: But it's really important to keep that growth mindset for sure.
40:59
SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, even reading.
41:01
SPEAKER_04: Like I remember Anthony was like, I've never read a book before, like I've never read a full book before.
41:05
SPEAKER_04: And then he just started reading like five minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, and it just continued to grow.
41:12
SPEAKER_04: And I think when our kids see us doing those things by example, we always say, like, our actions speak louder than words.
41:18
SPEAKER_04: They don't do what you say, they do what you do.
41:21
SPEAKER_04: And so when they see an example of people doing things that are out of their comfort zone, I really feel that instills in them that they can do things too.
41:29
SPEAKER_04: Um, so yeah.
41:31
SPEAKER_02: So in the morning, we do what you do, it sounds like Sean.
41:34
SPEAKER_02: So like we'll wake up early, we'll pray, uh, journal, and they see us doing that.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: And I I like that they see us doing that.
41:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, read to me, read me the Bible.
41:42
SPEAKER_02: And then I'm like, oh, okay, cool, I'll read you my verse or what I'm reading today.
41:45
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then they're always like, Oh, like I'll go to the gym.
41:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, we always will carve time out because that does more for us mentally than physically.
41:52
SPEAKER_02: And so they'll be like, Dad, you're going to the gym, you're going to the gym again.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I gotta go, I gotta go.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: And they're like, Okay, cool, like, go have a good workout, you know.
42:00
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, Oh, cool.
42:01
SPEAKER_02: Like, and then uh, and then sometimes they'll be like, Why are you always going to the gym?
42:04
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, it'll all make sense when you get older, but I gotta go do this.
42:07
SPEAKER_02: Um it all comes down to doing, and at the same time, like we are always like instilling them because like you said, at a young age, they're like they soak everything as a sponge.
42:16
SPEAKER_02: So the mindset that we had that we developed, you know, from reading books, uh, podcasts, um, you know, just with fine finances, everything, instilling these at a young age, I think it's like it's gonna just launch them into the future.
42:30
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna be like, oh man, like this is so good.
42:33
SPEAKER_02: Always goes back to me, man, for people at private school, they're they think different than the people at public school, right?
42:39
SPEAKER_02: And then um by and vice versa.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: So I was always like, oh man, like a lot of the private school people I know, uh Danielle's like one of them, right?
42:46
SPEAKER_02: I was like, man, I know what's they seem like they're a little bit like on top of things, right?
42:50
SPEAKER_02: They're just like on always, not always, but you know, I was always like, man, they seem like they had a little bit more of an advantage, right?
42:56
SPEAKER_02: They had the resources, they had like a different outlook.
42:59
SPEAKER_02: And I always appreciated that.
43:00
SPEAKER_02: And so that's why you know we homeschool our kids.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: And so um, just these little like things, I think that'll just help launch them in the future when they get older and spending that time together.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: I think we they see that we value like always being together.
43:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, like we're a unit, like we go and we do things together, we go and we tackle things together, right?
43:21
SPEAKER_02: We're always together, like you're not gonna leave me.
43:23
SPEAKER_02: Like, we'll go on a walk, so like you're not gonna leave me, right?
43:25
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, no, like let's go.
43:26
SPEAKER_02: We're all going together as a unit, like family walks.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: It's it's funny, man.
43:30
SPEAKER_02: The kids are kids are kids are the best.
43:33
SPEAKER_04: And you're raising you're raising adults.
43:35
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
43:36
SPEAKER_04: You're not raising kids.
43:37
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
43:37
SPEAKER_04: So you're raising them to become people that can be responsible, kind, servant minded people.
43:47
SPEAKER_04: And depending on what your value systems are, obviously, but you're raising adults, you know, and so like that's just something that I always have to keep in mind when we're like super firm on certain things, or you know, we might in my my heart.
44:00
SPEAKER_04: probably is Anthony's like, no, it's this is the right move.
44:03
SPEAKER_04: And I'm always like, hey, was I too rough on them, you know?
44:05
SPEAKER_04: But no, I feel like um it's very important that we are uh like consistent with thinking they're not gonna be this little they're adults a lot longer than they're young.
44:16
SPEAKER_04: You know, so we need to make sure that they're capable to navigate the world and give them tools and mindsets and all of that.
44:23
SPEAKER_04: So um yeah that's kind of how we we we see it.
44:27
SPEAKER_04: That's a really good question though and I'm glad you asked that because it it's true.
44:30
SPEAKER_04: We have to build capacity and maybe it helps someone that's an adult to really think like, am I pushing myself?
44:36
SPEAKER_04: Am I thinking of these mindset shifts?
44:38
SPEAKER_04: Am I thinking of how I can build capacity?
44:42
SPEAKER_04: Like you said it doesn't have to be drastic.
44:44
SPEAKER_04: Like nothing you did happened overnight.
44:46
SPEAKER_04: You know nothing that you know we do happened overnight.
44:51
SPEAKER_04: We're still we're still growing and if you're not a lifelong learner what is your purpose on earth like I don't know.
44:58
SPEAKER_04: I get sad for people who aren't like growing in their mind too you know in that way.
45:03
SPEAKER_02: It's just it is it's interesting yeah no I and then going back to lazy people like do not be lazy do don't be lazy go make moves go do something yeah you know like man just do anything like you said one hour blocks amazing do something whether it's any whether it's reading whether it's working out whether it's working on something like there's so many days we're like all right man I'm not trying to edit this I'm not trying to do this.
45:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm not trying to create this right now.
45:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm not but like I once I get into it now I'm like oh I'm in the zone I'm glad I did yeah I'm glad I did and then even if it was like 30 minutes and I'm like oh I'm glad I I knocked out that 30 minutes also the fear is working a job forever.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: So that scares that like that I'm like I'm motivated to like learn new skill sets.
45:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm motivated to like work on our podcast like that is just scares me.
45:53
SPEAKER_02: And um and then and then I think about it too like if I don't do anything like that is so boring.
45:58
SPEAKER_02: Like that's life is so boring like I'm just going to work and coming home I pop it on TV and I'm doing like the same thing over and over like insanity yeah so I don't know I always think that um you it's 2026 you there's no excuses there's kids learning stuff on their phones they're making money YouTube like what are we talking about?
46:20
SPEAKER_02: Like go out there and make a move right read a book read modern chance read the big print but yeah I said what what's up Sean are you having kids or what?
46:30
SPEAKER_02: What's going on here?
46:32
SPEAKER_00: No not yet not yet I'm a vicarious learner so I like to learn from other people's um from basically from other people's successes other people's failures so literally I feel like it well I am a kid I am at heart I still feel like a kid myself where I try to absorb everything that that comes to me.
46:47
SPEAKER_00: So usually like on podcasts and stuff like that that's probably the most anybody that knows me on like a daily basis I speak.
46:54
SPEAKER_00: I just do a lot of listening.
46:55
SPEAKER_00: I I try to listen to hear the best of people the worst of people their successes their failures their achievements their losses and then I end up I guess circumvitting that and having it come back to me so I can build up my I guess I can say uh build up my mental my my mental stack for lack of better words so I know what to do in a situation that's similar and what not to do in a simple in a situation that's similar.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: So that's that's for me that's for that's basically for me personally.
47:23
SPEAKER_00: I because I I I literally just looked it up I was looking it up probably like a couple months ago and I was like what is it like what is the name of a person that just learns from other people's experiences and then it's called a vicarious learner.
47:34
SPEAKER_00: So I was like I had no clue.
47:36
SPEAKER_02: So yeah so yeah that's funny I got to play with some really great football teams growing up and that was actually my one of my favorite coaches he always said that so people who were playing right or first or second string whatever and other people that were watching or never got to play he would be like hey all you guys need to be vicarious learners like you need to learn from other people's mistakes and look at your position because if whatever he does you better not make that same mistake when you get an opportunity and it was that always stuck with me.
48:05
SPEAKER_02: I I totally agree with you on that and then also to add up getting married in a couple months um you know one thing I would talk about with marriage that really helped uh Danielle and I that's a staple in our life is um basically most people they live a long distance relationship under the same roof you know they'll leave each other for eight plus hours and then they come back and they give each other their leftovers right um so what I would say is basically just go ahead and do something find something to do as a couple all the time whether it's like a podcast whether it's a business uh whether it's working out together do something together all the time that is not just work or date night and always do date nights but something other than date nights where like you're doing like you're working on something together.
48:51
SPEAKER_02: And the reason why I share this is huge for couples because you don't see people running together all the time and and when you run together I think a married couple on the same page is like an unstoppable force.
49:01
SPEAKER_02: And so to add on to that the last thing would be would um you get to see like like when we do this podcast right so I get to see Danielle's like strengths and weaknesses and she gets to see like my strengths and weaknesses like oh hey like you need to stop talking so much you know or you say this word too much or XYZ right and vice versa.
49:26
SPEAKER_02: And so it's cool because then you kind of like sharpen each other's tools right with each other.
49:31
SPEAKER_02: It's this weird dynamic right it's like almost like when you're running a business or working together you you'll see things uh you'll see their strengths and you'll see their weaknesses that you wouldn't see if you guys just kept going in the two different directions uh to your different jobs if that makes sense you know that that's a hundred percent yeah that's something I would I would always like you know recommend and like do something together and run together.
49:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah yeah I was about to say because that's what we've been doing that since we both basically got on the on the our health and fitness journeys as well because uh my fiance she's a RD as well so she's a registered dietitian so that's basically what she does for a living she um she helps she works in a a senior care facility uh right now and she basically helps with a lot of seniors uh and their nutrition and their diets and everything like that so um with that though we kind of all we basically incorporated that inside of our our daily workflow now like so we do our weekly meal preps uh every Sunday every Saturday or Sunday we do our weekly cooking together um every day we walk 30-40 minutes after the gym together um what else her her consulting business her RD consulting business for um anybody else that just wants to consult with her I build her website as well so I build her website and we basically go we interchange back and forth for like what she wants inside the website what I've done what I've built inside of there how it looks so she's basically like a project manager she's basically the project manager for her website and I'm the developer and it's and it it's the inverse of my daily life because I'm a PM so I'm a PM for developers at inside of my job.
51:04
SPEAKER_00: So it's basically we did the inverse of of life basically together.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: So yeah that's I mean she's that's she's my best friend man I can't I couldn't ask for a no better person in my life at all.
51:17
SPEAKER_02: So good and that's great that you're already doing that and then as your your marriage grows maybe your family grows God willing like just continue to find those pockets of that ability to spend time together because it does get a little more challenging it does become a little bit more uh kid focused but really try there's no kids without you two right so it's like you have to spend that time together we always try to remind each other that too because you'll be it'll be chaotic there's chaotic days and I'm like I'm like same team same team same team same team because really quick you could start getting like you know back and forth back and forth you're like time out these kids are making us on the opposite team we're on the same team you know yeah and also too Sean so uh kind of wrap things up too like you know everyone listening like you know um going back to laziness going back to Bitcoin going back to understanding money going back to all of this is like squeeze the most out of life just squeeze it you know squeeze the most out make the most out of it like be tired you know go make moves be in the best shape possible figure out money uh work on yourself work with your wife like just squeeze the most out of your one life and um to wrap up all of our episodes we always like to you know let you uh go ahead and share with us like hey someone coming to the Bitcoin space for the first time Sean uh and they're just getting their feet wet they're hearing this podcast for the first time uh what is some advice you would get to somebody entering into the Bitcoin space for the first time so I just listened I was listening to the first podcast yesterday so I don't want to repeat anything that I said there but I do feel like I've grown so much in the last in the last six months from the last podcast for me for somebody that's literally just getting into the space um when I said it originally was just slowly buy uh increments of Bitcoin first before before doing like heavy heavy research for now for me I still would say the same thing but on research wise just consume what you like to consume don't make your don't force don't force the consumption of your knowledge right so if you like if you like podcasts if you like listening instead of reading get you find you some podcasts find you find you the the Chris Johnson of the world the the Lynn Allen of the world the Jack Mahler's um etc etc I can go on for hours but find you those people who whatever message reaches you the best find them learn from them and then nine times out of ten they're gonna give you some type of recommendation for something for another resource so when they give you that recommendation you jump to that resource you jump right to that resource so when you do it for so long you're like okay I understand this is a podcast but like I want to get a little bit deeper.
53:58
SPEAKER_00: So then you probably heard of a book from somebody's podcast now you're into books.
54:02
SPEAKER_00: So I feel like don't force the knowledge don't force the knowledge transfer don't force the intelligence just naturally progress it out.
54:10
SPEAKER_00: Because for me I just like for me I like the force thing.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: So I got to jump into books.
54:14
SPEAKER_00: Like when I when I really got into heavy reading and everything like that I I didn't really like reading like how you mentioned Anthony shoot I it's probably college since the last book I just read from start to finish and that was just because I had to read it for the past the class or something like that.
54:29
SPEAKER_00: So now I'm reading something I actually enjoy and it's not really a job no more it's just it's it's fun for me.
54:35
SPEAKER_00: It's a hobby like I got my my PS5 like right here in the back of my setup.
54:39
SPEAKER_00: This thing has dust on it I have not used this in so long and I'm honestly probably gonna sell it for some Bitcoin but yeah I that's the thing you your whole mindset changes and you realize like the things that you used to do for your entertainment it really wasn't that much of an entertainment booster.
54:56
SPEAKER_00: It really was just a hindrance.
54:57
SPEAKER_00: You didn't really you didn't gain anything from it.
55:00
SPEAKER_00: So yeah that's why I would say just naturally progress your intelligence levels for how you like it at first and even if you like to play games if you like gaming I got we got something cooking coming in the works uh game wise for Bitcoin but so it's good it's it's coming so but even if you do like that we'll be a resource for that so yeah just meet your meet your knowledge where you like to meet yourself at consume it and then just go down the the whole work tree until you get to until you get to a new level of a new level of understanding.
55:31
SPEAKER_00: And then the second thing would just be own your time your energy and your money and your technology please do not buy a treasury company if you don't understand what Bitcoin the network and Bitcoin the money is first because what's the point of you buying a treasury company if you don't even understand well actually let me say this.
55:52
SPEAKER_00: Why are you buying a rep you're buying a a fake of a Jordan instead of just buying the actual Jordan if they're both of the same price right so why would I buy these DH gate Jordan 11s when I could buy the Jordan 11s from the Nike from the Nike website that's signed by Jordan and they're both worth$500.
56:08
SPEAKER_00: You might as well just spend the same$500 on the the on the legit Jordan 11 instead of the dupe.
56:14
SPEAKER_00: So buy hard buy hard money buy hardware and then own your time and sovereignty when I say hardware I mean like your Mac Studios your GPUs um your your graphics cards I mean build up your sovereignty to a point where nobody can take your money from you nobody can infiltrate your technology you own your data everything that I everything that goes into my agent gets stored inside of my Mac Mini and on my cloud network under my VPS so own your your money put your Bitcoin inside of cold storage lock it up inside of a MostySig vault if you can own your technology um put your have your data inside of its own inside of its own uh I guess you can say your your its own system and then own your time so once you do the first two things time just becomes the reward that's the icing on the cake because now I don't have to worry about where's my where's my money in the bank what's going on here what's going on in the bond market what's going on in the treasury how much or who struck who striked who did did Iran strike the U.S.
57:19
SPEAKER_00: today did the US strike Iran today all that stuff is just it's just fluff in the back of your head so once you've once you own that that monetary freedom and that technology freedom the time freedom is is just the icing on the cake.
57:31
SPEAKER_00: So yeah that's what I would say and if anybody has any questions on those two things any listeners has a question on those two two things please please please free to um hit me up on Twitter on uh on X Twitter, Instagram whatever please do.
57:44
SPEAKER_04: And and speaking of that what's your name on Twitter?
57:46
SPEAKER_00: It's two Tone Sean.
57:48
SPEAKER_00: It's at two and then capital T and everything else is lowercase tone Sean and then Instagram I got my name from middle school and it's still there but it's Wave Sean Jr.
57:58
SPEAKER_00: So yeah you can find me on both those platforms.
58:02
SPEAKER_04: Awesome well thank you so much Sean for joining us today.
58:06
SPEAKER_04: I love just this chat that we were able to have a very cool fun catching up on live chat and being able to have you back on the show is so nice because it just shows how much we've both grown uh in this process in the last you know six seven months here and we're so excited for your future your you know getting married so blessings to you and your future wife and just all the awesome things that are coming your way we're we're super pumped for for you.
58:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Thank you thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah no this is awesome uh I really appreciate you Sean uh you're our first uh guests that we review guests that we had uh so it's it's a big deal for us and I think we should go ahead and uh in December we'll wrap up another one of course of course one whole year uh just see where we've gone and where we've grown uh man you're the best uh really appreciate this it was fun um and let's go yes let's go thank you everyone to tuning in to To the Moon with the Lunas and we'll see you all on the moon pierced you made it this far so you might as well hit that subscribe button you won't want to miss the conversations we got coming next thanks for watching and we'll see you on the moon