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Rich DeMuro, Host of ‘Rich on Tech’ Interview · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: So right on time, we have Rich DeMuro Rich John
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  Speaker 1: Tech has heard Sunday nights from eight to eleven PM
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  Speaker 1: on wor and Rich the blazing headlines everywhere social media
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  Speaker 1: addiction trial, the focus on Zuckerberg and Meta. But I
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  Speaker 1: got to tell you, didn't New Mexico have a civil
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  Speaker 1: trial against him where he testified lost and then a
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  Speaker 1: civil charge of five hundred and sixty seven million dollars
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  Speaker 1: was waged against Meta. I'm confused, what is this case?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's been a couple of cases. We had
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  Speaker 2: one in New Mexico, which, like you said, yeah, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money Meta has to pay out. And then
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  Speaker 2: there was also one in Los Angeles from a teenager
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  Speaker 2: that said she was addicted to Instagram and all these
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  Speaker 2: other platforms and she was paid out millions of dollars
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  Speaker 2: or should be. And now we've got this new trial.
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  Speaker 2: This is led by twenty nine states, so it's more
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  Speaker 2: of a coalition, but it's being led by four states
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  Speaker 2: in general, California, Colorado, Kentucky, and New Jersey. So this
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  Speaker 2: is a This is probably the largest of all of
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  Speaker 2: the trials against Meta. Meta says this could cost them
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  Speaker 2: up to one point four trillion dollars. The States argue, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's probably closer to two hundred billion dollars. But no
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  Speaker 2: matter what, this is a big deal, and it's all
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  Speaker 2: about the idea that Meta ignored all the signs and
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  Speaker 2: kept pushing forward to get teens addicted to this app Instagram,
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  Speaker 2: and they did not care about all the warning signs.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's being argued in court right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be fascinating to find out what
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  Speaker 3: happens with that chat GBT launched a new mode for teens.
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  Speaker 2: Is this related in somehow, Well, that's what I think
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  Speaker 2: is interesting. So we have this trial start yesterday, and
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  Speaker 2: on the same day, chatchybt comes out with this new
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  Speaker 2: feature called CHATCHYBT for teens. So clearly, and we've heard
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  Speaker 2: there's been already, you know, issues with teens and chat gybt.
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  Speaker 2: We've heard of suicide, We've heard of you know, these
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  Speaker 2: teens thinking that the chat is their friend. And so
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  Speaker 2: I think chat gubt is trying to get ahead of
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  Speaker 2: all of these issues that other big tech companies have
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  Speaker 2: seen when it comes to teenagers. So basically, if you're
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  Speaker 2: thirteen to seventeen, even if you don't put that into
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  Speaker 2: the app as your age, because a lot of people lie,
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  Speaker 2: especially teenagers. It will look at signals and say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we know you're thirteen to seventeen. Now you're going to
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  Speaker 2: be put into this bucket. And it's becoming you know,
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  Speaker 2: it acts more like a tutor instead of just an
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  Speaker 2: answer machine. So if you ask for an answer for something,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to say, hey, why don't we walk you
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  Speaker 2: through the steps to finding that answer. And then of
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  Speaker 2: course there's a whole bunch of safety guardrails around self harm,
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  Speaker 2: eating disorders, violence, explicit content, and so open Aye is
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  Speaker 2: really trying to say, hey, look, we've seen what the
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  Speaker 2: other tech companies have done with teens. We are trying
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  Speaker 2: to get ahead of this, get in front of it,
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  Speaker 2: and make this a safe place for teenagers.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Question, we see that Meta and Zackerberg are the folk
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  Speaker 1: of these prosecutions, but I know there are other social
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  Speaker 1: media sites in which there are thousands of suits out there.
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  Speaker 1: Why has Zuckerbird chosen to fight instead of just settle
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of these other social networking media sites
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  Speaker 1: have done.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 2: He may think they're not in the wrong, and you
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  Speaker 2: know that's what the courts are here to decide. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: so far we've seen some of the information come out.
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  Speaker 2: You know they're going to have, you know, like Metas said,
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  Speaker 2: they have a whole bunch of safety features they've put
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  Speaker 2: in along the years. I mean, you have to understand
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  Speaker 2: from the from the side of Meta. You know, they
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  Speaker 2: were going along just like we were. We were all
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  Speaker 2: trying to understand this new technology, use this new technology.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't really know its effects on teenagers or ourselves
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  Speaker 2: even as adults. So did they kind of as they
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  Speaker 2: went along understand these things and say, Okay, let's put
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  Speaker 2: these safety features in because we noticed kids can't stopping
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  Speaker 2: or did they say in their internal documents and emails, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: kids can't stop scrolling. Let's get him. Let's get them
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  Speaker 2: to scroll even more. And I think that's what this
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  Speaker 2: case is trying to figure out. Was there some internal documents,
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  Speaker 2: was there internal chit chat about how do we addict
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  Speaker 2: these children? Or is this just a side effect of
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  Speaker 2: this technology that they invented.
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  Speaker 3: I see the Fray Federal Trade Commission is out with
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  Speaker 3: warning about searching online to pay your bills, and it's interesting,
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  Speaker 3: Rich I've been caught up in this before. I've never
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  Speaker 3: fallen forward completely, but when I had to pay a
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  Speaker 3: bill and it's not already set up in my phone
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  Speaker 3: or on my computer, I do a search, and then
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  Speaker 3: when you go to it, it just seems a little off.
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  Speaker 3: And I've always been wary of that. So now I
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  Speaker 3: see from the story it's.
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  Speaker 2: A thing, absolutely, and this is a larger issue that
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  Speaker 2: I'm seeing in general with people searching for things online.
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  Speaker 2: When it comes to customer service, tech support, bill pay. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: any time you are not going directly to the URL
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  Speaker 2: for a company, there are other companies that are trying
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  Speaker 2: to get you to go to their website. They may
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  Speaker 2: charge you extra fees, they may scam you. There may be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a product that they may push you into
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  Speaker 2: buying that you don't actually need. And the FTC is
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  Speaker 2: getting hip to this. Basically, they're saying that online bill pay,
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of impersonators out there. So when
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  Speaker 2: you're searching for that bill to pay, whether it's for
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  Speaker 2: your medical company, whether it's for your phone company, be
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  Speaker 2: very careful about the ads or the sponsored links up
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  Speaker 2: at the top. It may look like you're paying your
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  Speaker 2: phone company, but it might be a third party service
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  Speaker 2: that's going to charge you could be a dollar or
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  Speaker 2: two more, three dollars, five dollars, whatever it is. But
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  Speaker 2: still times millions of people doing this, So it went
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  Speaker 2: in doubt, and I think the best advice is really
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  Speaker 2: to use the address that is printed on your bill,
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  Speaker 2: especially when it comes to those random medical bills you get.
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  Speaker 2: They all use a different billing system type that URL
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  Speaker 2: into your web browser. That's the safest way to pay retch.
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  Speaker 1: And then finally a lot of people would say to me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm familiar twice, I don't want any more of these
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  Speaker 1: emails about your fundraising for political ventures. And yet I
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  Speaker 1: see that apparently you can do more political fundraising emails
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  Speaker 1: on Gmail inboxes. How did that happen?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought this was kind of interesting. Basically very
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  Speaker 2: quiet change from Google. Starting September eighth, Google's launching a
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  Speaker 2: program that basically lets verify candidates, political parties, and these
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  Speaker 2: packs avoid Gmail spam filters. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: remember this, but during the election, Republicans were complaining that
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  Speaker 2: gmails spam filters filtered out their fundraising emails and let
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat email slip through. Well, Google says they've got
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  Speaker 2: a new program that basically verifies you are who you
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  Speaker 2: say you are. You are one of these political groups,
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  Speaker 2: and now they will allow those emails to land inside
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  Speaker 2: inboxes instead of going straight to spam. But of course
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  Speaker 2: there are some restrictions so that this is not abused.
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  Speaker 2: So the bottom line here is that if you have
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  Speaker 2: a gmailccount, you may see some more political emails going
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  Speaker 2: to your inbox, and that's for a reason Gmail change
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  Speaker 2: the way that they handle those.
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  Speaker 3: Always great. Thank you, Rich, Rich DeMuro rich on Tech
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  Speaker 2: Thanks again, Rich, Thanks guys, appreciate it. FRIM Supplies