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NBA DFS Process | DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Slate Breakdown | Wednesday, 03/04/26 · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear. We lived on What is going on?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? We're back for a Wednesday edition
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  Speaker 1: of the NBA Show as always, joined by my man Met.
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  Speaker 1: How's it going tonight? I met pretty uh pretty wild
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  Speaker 1: games last night, for sure?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wild games. I was just off last night, so
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  Speaker 2: I pivoted off of j Ayleen Williams, and I was
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  Speaker 2: in that pivoting off of Jalen Williams to O Max's crew.
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  Speaker 2: O Max coming in at less than one percent. Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Williams obviously stayed pretty highly owned, but he just went
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  Speaker 2: nuclear off the bench. Didn't even matter for me though,
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  Speaker 2: because I was heavy on the Philly game and kind
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  Speaker 2: of didn't need to be heavy on that Philly game.
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  Speaker 2: The guys busted san Antonio rolled, so my night was
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  Speaker 2: kind of rip with that game going down in flames.
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  Speaker 2: Happy to get back at it tonight. Was telling you
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  Speaker 2: before we started about kind of two nights ago, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Plann dyang over Hugo Gonzalez. So been a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a rough start to the week. Luckily I had
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  Speaker 2: a nice finish to last week, so hoping we can
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  Speaker 2: carry that over into Wednesday. I love doing these shows
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  Speaker 2: with the only four games tonight, so pretty pretty game
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  Speaker 2: theory type of slate I think we're dealing with.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, it'll be a pretty quick show for
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  Speaker 1: us tonight, at least breaking breaking down the game, So
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  Speaker 1: if you guys have any questions, we could definitely spend
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more time getting to it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: pretty brutal runout for the for the Sixers guys. Just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Grimes was terrible. MAXI was pretty good from a permanent basis,
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  Speaker 1: but just couldn't keep the game clubs. But they'll get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to bounce back tonight and they'll be even
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  Speaker 1: thinner than they were last night in a much better matchup.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll get to the game in a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So it's up some people in chat. First, we got
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Uan's in here as always, Gang Green, Philly Fan,
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  Speaker 1: Jake it said it hit the like Bud, please appreciate that,
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  Speaker 1: Juice Deacon, Marquee, Money Moge and mister Mike's Daddy. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of alluded to up the top a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more game theory, but in terms of strategy going
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  Speaker 1: into a say like this, where there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: value and then a few venoms to kind of dig through,
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  Speaker 1: but a couple of games that should have been close.
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  Speaker 1: What's the general strategy you have going into a slave
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  Speaker 1: like tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think kind of. I was alluding to a
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  Speaker 2: like a minute ago. I think the game theory aspect
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  Speaker 2: of this late is really pertinent, just because it's really
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  Speaker 2: small and ownership is very concentrated. We've seen that, I've
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  Speaker 2: talked to you a bunch about it on these shows.
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  Speaker 2: Ownership just continues to be extremely concentrated in NBA dfs,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a similar story tonight where there's a few
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  Speaker 2: guys getting a ton of ownership. Then obviously it spreads
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  Speaker 2: out a little bit. But I think getting off the
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  Speaker 2: beaten path with you know, not your entire lineup, but
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  Speaker 2: with a player or two or potentially three can really
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  Speaker 2: set you apart on these slates. And again, with Sim's
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  Speaker 2: kind of ruling the roost in NBA dfs right now,
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  Speaker 2: ownership is just going to continue to be more and
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  Speaker 2: more concentrated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I feel like now more than ever,
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  Speaker 1: you need to really kind of think through how you
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  Speaker 1: want to be building and not just blindly trusting projections.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've kind of done a pretty good job
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  Speaker 1: pinpointing some of that. I know that last week, the
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  Speaker 1: night when you had the forty k win was a
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  Speaker 1: perfect example, because that was a nudgey mortal night and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we were pretty on top of fading him,
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  Speaker 1: but the field still wanted to play him at whatever
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  Speaker 1: he was sixty someeven percent. And I think last night
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  Speaker 1: was kind of another good example where a guy like Grime,
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  Speaker 1: so I definitely played a ton of like he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was over projecting around the industry, I thought, just
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  Speaker 1: because he's not a great permanent producer and people were
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  Speaker 1: pretty confident in his role. Obviously that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: like the worst possible runout. But still the point kind
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  Speaker 1: of remains that you need to be looking at from
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  Speaker 1: that perspective a little bit more and just not be
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  Speaker 1: super comfortable just blinding trust in the projection. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: definitely kind of go through that. Anything else you want
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  Speaker 1: to build on there, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Just to like your point, and you were a little
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  Speaker 2: bit even under selling it. Nagie Marshall that night came
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  Speaker 2: in at like eighty five percent owned, and that I
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  Speaker 2: think it was a seven seven seven. There's so much
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  Speaker 2: power in fading a guy like that if there's reasons
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  Speaker 2: to fade him, and that high ownership like sixty percent
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  Speaker 2: is high, no doubt. But when you're talking about like
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  Speaker 2: eighty five percent owned for a guy like Najie Marshall,
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  Speaker 2: that's not like a stud that's just gonna get there
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  Speaker 2: every single night because he's gonna have the ball in
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  Speaker 2: his hands in the entire game. There's just so much
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  Speaker 2: power in that in NBA dfast and there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: players that are that highly owned tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. We'll definitely try to pinpoint those ones as
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  Speaker 1: we get through the slate a little bit, but kick
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  Speaker 1: things off with a game that should be pretty exciting. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: see at New York next. Both these teams on the
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  Speaker 1: back to back. The Thunders rested Shay and Hardenstein last night,
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  Speaker 1: so they'll get those guys back tonight, and then the
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  Speaker 1: NIXT will be without mister Robinson. Yeah. Surprisingly close spread.
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  Speaker 1: I think Vegas is giving the Knicks a good amount
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  Speaker 1: of credit here, mainly just because it's a home game,
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  Speaker 1: But I kind of think that the Thunder kind of
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  Speaker 1: have most of the have more ways to win this one,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, we should expect it to remain close throughout.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that there's definitely a lot to talk
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  Speaker 1: through here. This is one of the the more exciting
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  Speaker 1: games on the slate. I would say, I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: excited about that Charlotte Boston won. Just a good test
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  Speaker 1: for Charlotte going up against a really good team in
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  Speaker 1: the East. But yeah, it should be a fun one.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna be a really tough test for the Knicks. Offensively,
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  Speaker 1: Thunder the best defense in the NBA. They have some
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  Speaker 1: of the most capable defenders slowing down Jalen Brunton and
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  Speaker 1: kar Anthony Towns. So I could see this being a
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  Speaker 1: game where the role players come up big if the
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  Speaker 1: game does stay close, or if the Knicks win this one.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of would expect, like og McHale, Josh Hart
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  Speaker 1: maybe in some of the bench guys have pretty big
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  Speaker 1: games here. Not necessarily sure that would translate to DFS
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  Speaker 1: in particular, because I think this game will be pretty
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  Speaker 1: low scoring, But yeah, what are you looking at in
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  Speaker 1: this one? It should be a pretty fun game. Tho'm
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  Speaker 1: sure to kick things off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be a good game from a real
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  Speaker 2: life perspective for nothing else. For dfast wise, I don't
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  Speaker 2: see a ton here like from the Knicks Cat I
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  Speaker 2: think it's okay at eighty six hundred with Mitchell Robinson out,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not a good matchup, and he's been so
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  Speaker 2: inconsistent this year, Like I don't love him. Brunson I
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  Speaker 2: think is strictly a tournament player at no ownership. Like
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  Speaker 2: he's one of those guys, you know, I was kind
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  Speaker 2: of just alluding to, Like with Tyrese MAXI going to be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, eighty five percent owned, Brunson is going to
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  Speaker 2: be two three four percent owned, So like, yeah, MAXI
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  Speaker 2: looks a lot better. And most of the time he
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  Speaker 2: outscores Brunson here, but not all the time. So at
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  Speaker 2: what point does it make sense to play a guy
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  Speaker 2: like Brunson. Not exactly sure, but that's really his only
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  Speaker 2: role on this slate. For me personally, I like Josh
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  Speaker 2: Hart the most out of any guy from New York.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think that if the Knicks keep
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  Speaker 2: this competitive, it's more like a gritty game. They're getting
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  Speaker 2: it done on the margins. Heart is really good on
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  Speaker 2: the Margins, so he's my favorite player from New York.
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  Speaker 2: I don't love this game from a DFS perspective at all.
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  Speaker 2: The only guy from Okay see it is Shay, but
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  Speaker 2: like I don't know, he's getting a little bit of ownership.
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  Speaker 2: Also not nearly as much as Maxie, so I think
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  Speaker 2: like he's the most reasonable pivot off of Maxi. But
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  Speaker 2: with him getting even a little bit of ownership, I'd
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  Speaker 2: rather just play Maxi or one of the guys that's
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  Speaker 2: just getting no ownership. So I'm mostly out on this game.
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  Speaker 2: I think we see it pretty similarly in like one
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  Speaker 2: fifty type settings. How do you see it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Like anything, probably three to
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  Speaker 1: five entries in below, i'd probably be on the underweight
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  Speaker 1: to fade side. I think if you were making a
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  Speaker 1: case for somebody in this game, I think you kind
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  Speaker 1: of hit it, it would be Shaye and Josh Hart. I
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  Speaker 1: do think that I'll get over the field on some
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  Speaker 1: of these guys in mm E though, I like what
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  Speaker 1: I've seen from Shaye coming back. He looks like he's
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  Speaker 1: pretty full, got the MVP race seating up a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: so he probably wants to win that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good call.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't really I don't view anybody on
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  Speaker 1: the Knicks as like really good stoppers at defending a
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  Speaker 1: guy like Shaye. It should be a lot of mckill
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  Speaker 1: bridges on him, and Shay has cooked them. He did
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  Speaker 1: really well against the Knicks last year average thirty six
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  Speaker 1: points per game, three and a half rebound, four and
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  Speaker 1: a half assists per game, fifty two DK points. I
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  Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that would be great for tonight, but
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  Speaker 1: the upside definitely is there. We saw it in the
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  Speaker 1: Denver game and he didn't even play the last five
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  Speaker 1: minutes because he didn't play in overtime. But the thing
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  Speaker 1: that was most interesting I saw with Shae was his
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  Speaker 1: role since returning in those small sample two games, but
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  Speaker 1: he's been like a usage monster. His involvement percentage jumped
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  Speaker 1: from fifty one point six percent on the season to
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  Speaker 1: sixty four point six over his last two and the
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  Speaker 1: on ball roll up from thirty seven percent to forty
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  Speaker 1: three and a half percent. So better role for Shay
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  Speaker 1: over the last two game. Not sure how sticky that
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  Speaker 1: would be long term, but I think that's something to
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  Speaker 1: keep an eye on because this is a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: price side for him. We're used to seeing him probably
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  Speaker 1: like the eleven K range most nights, so do you
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  Speaker 1: like him a little bit? I think Hartenstein is a
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  Speaker 1: guy to sprinkle in as well, because it's a much
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  Speaker 1: softer matchup. No Mitch rob And then I also think
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  Speaker 1: I have a little bit of interest in these these
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  Speaker 1: bench guys. I think there's a good chance one of
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  Speaker 1: these guys has a decent night against the Knicks, because
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of the same thing for New York. They're
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  Speaker 1: pretty vulnerable giving up three pointers. So I think Joe
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  Speaker 1: McCain and Wiggins or guys would all consider, and even
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  Speaker 1: Caruso a little bit because he can get hot in
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  Speaker 1: a hurry, But it would be a max one of
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  Speaker 1: anybody not named Shay for me, and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I'm even considering Hut on a back to back. As
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  Speaker 1: for the Knicks, though, I agree, I think heart is
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  Speaker 1: my favorite option at six point six K with the
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  Speaker 1: shooting guard, smaller forward eligibility. He's done. He had a
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  Speaker 1: good game last night twelve seven and seven and five stocks.
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  Speaker 1: I think that he's got the most upside of the
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  Speaker 1: secondary Knicks. I also think that's gonna be Hartenstein guarding
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  Speaker 1: Josh Hart, So that'd be a good spot to attack
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  Speaker 1: because I think the Heartstein is gonna be leaving them
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  Speaker 1: open a lot in the three point line, just kind
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  Speaker 1: of dare him to be the one that beats the thunder.
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  Speaker 1: The Cat did have some really big games against Okay
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  Speaker 1: See last year too, so I'm leaving the door open
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  Speaker 1: for him because it's still a good price tag for
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  Speaker 1: the upside we have seen from him in the past.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's playing a little bit better as of late.
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  Speaker 1: Minutes have been way down, so I think that there's
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  Speaker 1: a chance he could bounce back minutes wise in a
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  Speaker 1: really big game. Double check chats if there's any questions.
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  Speaker 1: No Wallace, I think Wallace another guy I would I
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  Speaker 1: would sprinkle in a little bit. I'n'na be fine with him,
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  Speaker 1: but the role will be pretty bad with with Harnstein
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  Speaker 1: and with Shay returning. Yeah, I agree with Wardo. Shaman
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  Speaker 1: was another guy that I had kind of circled a
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  Speaker 1: little bit in terms of how he compares to the
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  Speaker 1: value plays. I don't think that he's up there with,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the the Memphis guys or the Philly guys,
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  Speaker 1: but I would definitely have a little bit of interest
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  Speaker 1: in Shaman at the very least, and some prop bets.
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  Speaker 1: I think that he'd be the guy that could get
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  Speaker 1: hot up the bench. All right, next game, Utah Philly.
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  Speaker 1: This looks like potentially the game of the night in
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  Speaker 1: terms of sacking things up for DFS. Utah's head to
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  Speaker 1: Philly coming off of an embarrassing loss. The Sixers are
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  Speaker 1: at home against the Spurs. They were getting booed by
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  Speaker 1: their fans and even apparently some fans were getting thrown
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  Speaker 1: out of the game because they were telling telling the
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  Speaker 1: owner of the Sixers to sell the team. It's a
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  Speaker 1: really embarrassing game for them, but should be a really
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  Speaker 1: good bounce back against the Jest and the Rings. Dead
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  Speaker 1: lasted defensive rating. Six Ers are bottom eight in defensive
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  Speaker 1: rating over the last two weeks and one of the
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  Speaker 1: worst rim defenses in rebound teams. The NBA definitely of
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  Speaker 1: interested in this game, but talking through how you view
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  Speaker 1: in the Philly stuff, because this will definitely be a
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  Speaker 1: spot that is unavoidable for DFS.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really hard to get away from Philly
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  Speaker 2: here Utah, I think kinda at least for me, like
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  Speaker 2: Utah is really hard to get any of outside of
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe Ace Bailey Philipowski, but like, no Utah
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  Speaker 2: player is going to be a priority for me. And
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: that's even with a lot of Philly being like ultimate
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  Speaker 2: priorities on this late starting with Tyrese MAXI ten to three.
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  Speaker 2: We just don't have a lot of spend up options tonight,
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  Speaker 2: and he should cook Utah if Utah can keep this
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  Speaker 2: game even semi competitive. I mean, he's just gonna smash here.
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  Speaker 2: So I think there are game theory like avenues and
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  Speaker 2: ways to get off of him here. But from a
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  Speaker 2: pure projectionpoint, he's a lock in all formats. Certainly if
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  Speaker 2: you're playing cash games, he's like the first guy you're playing.
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  Speaker 2: Then you go down in pricing to Quenton Grimes again,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't feel good. And he's one of these guys that's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be so highly owned that like Quinton Grimes at
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  Speaker 2: ninety percent, Like I get it, he projects really well.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great spot. Like from a projection standpoint, I
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  Speaker 2: think you just play him. But that's the type of
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  Speaker 2: ownership and type of player where I think at least
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  Speaker 2: talking about fading him makes sense in tournaments justin Edward
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  Speaker 2: is gonna be popular he makes sense trendon Watford thirty
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  Speaker 2: six hundred. He looks pretty good here. Andre Drummond fifty
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  Speaker 2: two hundred. I think after clinging, he looks like the
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  Speaker 2: best center on the slate. He's just gonna smash in
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  Speaker 2: this spot again if you talk and keep this game
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  Speaker 2: even semi competitive, It's hard to see if someone like
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  Speaker 2: Drummond not just having a monster game in this spot.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The block concern is real. I think playing that angle
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  Speaker 2: on a small slate like this makes some sense. But
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  Speaker 2: Philly is missing a lot of their really good players,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't trust them to blow anyone out right now.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna play it like that. And in
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  Speaker 2: that case, I like these guys a lot, namely Drummond
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  Speaker 2: and Maxie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'll be playing this game straight up too.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't really trust Philly to blow out even Utah,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that Utah will be more inclined to
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  Speaker 1: play things a little bit more competitively. Kyante returning definitely
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  Speaker 1: helps them, and I actually think that, you know, adding EJ.
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  Speaker 1: Harkless to the starting lineup helps them a lot to
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  Speaker 1: be more competitive because he's actually a pretty good defender.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch the game against the Nuggets,
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  Speaker 1: but he was. He was literally the one that was
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  Speaker 1: guarding Jokic. So it was pretty crazy to see because
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: he's a small guard, but definitely a lot of one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys has a lot of heart and will
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  Speaker 1: play hard defense. But yeah, I agree with you on
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  Speaker 1: the six of stuff though. You got to be starting
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  Speaker 1: your lineups with probably two to three of these guys.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine starting with Maxie and then Grimes and
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  Speaker 1: then probably Drummond. But I mean, I changed the ownership
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  Speaker 1: right here. It's a high stake singleantry. You see that
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  Speaker 1: you got maxid nine ninety two percent for Grimes, sixty
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  Speaker 1: one for Drummond, even Barlows shrun up at forty seven percent,
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  Speaker 1: and then it kind of drops off. Edwards will be
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  Speaker 1: high owned as well, but he's Edwards is one guy
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  Speaker 1: like I would be totally finding even the chalk. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he to me is a lock in singleatry
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  Speaker 1: contests and satellites things like that. I'd probably be starting
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  Speaker 1: my lineups with Maxi, Drummond, and Edwards, And then then
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  Speaker 1: you start to make a decision on Grimes. I think
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  Speaker 1: if you're not playing Grimes. You should probably be playing
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  Speaker 1: Campaign unless they start all three of those guys, which
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that they will because it's just too
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  Speaker 1: many guards in the court. But yeah, i'd be I'd
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  Speaker 1: probably be setting a max two rule of MAXI, Grimes
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  Speaker 1: and Campaign, and that way, wou kind of give me
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: a couple more combinations of MAXI plus Grimes, MAXI plus Pain.
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  Speaker 1: I doubt I'd get a ton of Grimes plus pain
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  Speaker 1: with no MAXI, but if you did get those lineups,
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  Speaker 1: then you're probably getting Shay in them, I would imagine.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: So a little bit of a different, different way to
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: approach a slave for sure, But yeah, totally fine with Drummond.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's a great matchup for him to bounce
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: back against kottle Field Powski, one of the worst defenders
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: in the league. Definitely a guy that can give him
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: a ton of rebounds. I think Drummond has really really
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: appealing upside tonight. And then Edwards, I'm very into. I
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: haven't projected, more like, I don't know what the minutes
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: are gonna look like, but I would imagine it ranges
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: from twenty four to like twenty eight if he's starting,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: and if that's the case i'd probably be having. I'd
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: have him projected in like the twenty four to twenty
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: five drafting this point range, just because match is really good.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: His G League sets have been solid as well, and
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: he's he has been a guy that has fantasy relevance
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: at times in his career, mainly last season. I don't
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: really know what to do with like the Barlow, Watford
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Bona grouping, Like I think all these guys should be
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: in consideration because they're gonna be really low owned. Maybe
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: well not Barlow, but Watford for sure will be loaned.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I'd probably be sitting a max two rule of Barlow,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Watford and Walk or sorry, Barrow, Watford and Edwards definitely
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: max one of Bona and Drummond, and Bona is another
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: guy that honestly could that might provide you enough leverage
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: off of a chalky guy off of Drummond, because Drummond
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: did look terrible last night, and I don't think that
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: they're guaranteed to play him like twenty eight to thirty minutes. Bonas,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: you know, just as likely to have a pretty big
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: game like Drummond, but he's going to be a fraction
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: of the ownership, Like I don't know if it's less
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: than one percent, probably more like six to eight percent
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: as we closer to the lot, but that'd be definitely
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: be a pivot I'm looking to make for sure.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Do you think he's just as likely to have a
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: big game or like at ownership, you're willing to play
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: him at.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Ownership, I'm willing to play him. I just think that
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: it's I don't I wouldn't be so confident that Drummond's
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: like a sixty percent on play tonight just because I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: getting the start.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I guess my question, like on that note is Grimes,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Like I just keep going, like I'm totally with you
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: on Edwards, like he's three k in a small forward.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Grimes is mid four K range and at a guard
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: position where we have a lot of good guards tonight,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: like the Memphis guys MAXI we talked about guys we
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: liked already. I mean, I gots my question to you,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Like you think Grimes ever is worth being like eighty
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: five ninety percent owned? That seems crazy to me, and
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I get it. He projects really well.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's definitely not a one hundred percent
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: chance that he's going to be optimal, But I would
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: probably say in single unentry, you deceat that chalk, Like
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: if you're maybe if you're building like five teams, you
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: fade him in one.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: That's fair, but like meeat.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Like right with the field. But I think for emmy,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I would probably prefer to come in at like seventy percent,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: maybe like sixty five percent, because there are some pretty
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: decent uh other point guard shooting guard options that will
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: be direct pivots and then also a little bit more expensive,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: so it kind of changes the build around a little bit. Yeah, definitely,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's like kind of the main decision points.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: And I the thing that's making me really just want
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to play in Aton is that it's Utah, they're terrible
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: against guards. I do think that it's a pretty good
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: bounce back spot for him.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if enough people don't want to play him,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Like if he's seventy five percent owned, like I want
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: all the grimes. If he's like ninety five percent owned,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I want none of the grimes, that's a big difference,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And we just don't know
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: exactly what he'll be, but I'm I'm more with you
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: than against you that in single entry stuff, I think
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: you just eat the bullet. Like if you're playing a
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: few a bunch of lineups, then you start to think
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: about getting away from him. And if you're playing one fifty,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: no issue getting a little bit under the field.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Like you said, Yeah, didn't wantly touch on Utah, But
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I do have interest in two guys in particular. One
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: is Keante George really made a statement in the loss
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to Denver was pretty much back to like his early
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: season self. Seven point three minutes of touch time in
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: that one got to thirty minutes. Kind of kicked myself
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: in that one because I was projecting him for like
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes, but then end up coming down a little
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: bit because I thought that the blow concerns were a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: little bit too big to play him that much. But
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a chance that his minutes could range
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: anywhere from like twenty eight to thirty four in a
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: close game. So I kind of think that he's pretty
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: good at his price tag seven point seven K, just
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: because we just saw him go off for a big game,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and I think that he just has a ton of
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: momentum the season. So I think if the game does
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: stay close, and if you have like four of the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: main rotation pieces on Philly. It makes it a little
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: bit of sense to me to get some Utah guys
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and Keanto will be the first guy I look to,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and then Philipowski will be the next one. He's really
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: expensive now and the minutes haven't been good, but it
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: is a good matchup. I'm not really too scared off
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: about Andre Drummond on defense, and with no embiad in
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: there should be able to stay at a foul risk.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: That's kind of been a big concern for Philipowski this season.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: The minutes that really have not been great because they're
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: trying to get Oscar sheib way more minutes. But I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: think that this could be a spot where he has
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: at least a good permitted game. So I have a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: little bit of interest in those two guys in particular.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Don't think this would be a sight to go to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: E J. Harkliss. I'm kind of off of Ace Bailey
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: right now. I think that he's a little too expensive,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: hasn't really put together a full game where he's kind of,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you know, consistent all the way through, and I think
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: with County Beck just kind of hurts his overall upside.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: So I'm really just going to Flip and County tonight.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. I guess my only case for
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Ace would just be like his ceiling is still high
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: for his price point, even if like he's overpriced for
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: his median and with Keyante back in this game, potentially,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you know, being closer than some might expect if that happens,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: and maybe you see a couple of extra minutes from Ace,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: but that's kind of just dreaming. So yeah, I get it,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Like I'm not. I don't think if you're playing one lineup,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think you get to anyone from Utah, but
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it does make sense to start looking at them the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: more filly you play, because you want this game to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: be competitive.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see a question about Blowout run. I pulled
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: up the rotation last night. The blowout lineup had Jabari Walker,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Trendon Watford, Justin Edwards, Tyres Martin, and Quinn sorry Dale
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and Terry and Tyres Martin. So no, Bona probably would
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: not be out there, but that could change. I just
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: don't think that they would have him out there. I
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: feel like it could probably be those those. Maybe Justin Edwards
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: is not in the blowout, but if he is, it's
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: kind of like the perfect the perfect storm for him.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Also, like in blowout Run, like they don't necessari they're
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: not necessarily matching up, so like they don't need a
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: center out there and blowout run if they're happy with
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: the guys they got out there.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, any of us left for Speed, not
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: for me. I don't doesn't sound like Matt's on him either, no, sir,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: all right, next game on the slate should be a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: fun one, really big test for Charlotte heading into Boston.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: As last my checks, they're six and a half point
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: underdogs yep, six and a half points, and they will
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: be without Grant Williams and Tjon Salon otherwise fully healthy.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Kobe Why will be back for this one. All the
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: guys that played last night, we'll be back, LaMelo, Conn, Miller, Bridges, Mussi,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Diabatte all In. And then for the Celtics, Jalen Brown
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: and MIAs Keda will be back tonight, and Jason Tatum
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: sounds like his return is very close. I keep hearing
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Friday as the day that he's going to be making
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: his return to Boston, so I have to keep an
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: eye on that and how that looks moving forward. But
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: definitely pretty exciting news if you are a Boston fan.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah, this should be a pretty fun game.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: These are two of the best rebounding teams in the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: league right now. Boston's really turned a corner, maybe since
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the acquisition of Nikola Vusovich that's kind of helped them.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: But these are also two of the best three point
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: offenses in the NBA. Hornets are second in offensive three
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: point frequency and Boston is fourth. Boston is a little
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: bit worse at defending the three point line. They really
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: look to take away the rim, so I wouldn't be
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: surprised if we do get some big scoring from one
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to two of these guys in Charlotte. I wouldn't actually
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: be surprised if they keep this game really close and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: potentially win this one. The starting five of the LaMelo
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: con Miller, Bridges, Diabate are I think they're now in
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: nineteen and two when they all play together, and they
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: have the best net rating of any five man lineup,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So pretty yeah, pretty big test for them. I do
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: want to take shots on all of those, mainly the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: four guys. I think I'm off of diabat tonight, but
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I do have interest in LaMelo, con Miller and Bridges.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: To me, this feels like a con Or Brandon Miller knite.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I think that their matchups will be a little bit
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: softer than what LaMelo faces. LaMelo did have a quick
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: trip to the locker room as well last night, came
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: back shortly after it looked like it was just kind
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: of like a growing shot. But to me, it just
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: feels a little tough to play him on a back
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to back at eight point ak when we have so
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: many other guard options. But I will say that he
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: has done really well against Derek White in the past.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: He's averaging sixty point three points per seventy five and
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: like a decently big samples. I think that the scoring
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: will definitely be there for him, So I do want
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: to take some stabs at him, but I prefer a
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: lot of these other guards. But it's definitely a Colin
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and Brandy Miller night for me. What say you about
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the Hornets and Celtics.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this game kind of reminds me of the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: OKC Knicks game from a DFS perspective and a realize perspective,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: where I think both games are really good. From a
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: watching viewpoint from the Boston side. Jalen Brown to me,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: looks like I've been on Jalen Brown a bunch recently.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: He continues to just be productive night in at night out.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: He's got both the shooting garden small Ford eligibility, which
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you know I love, easy to roster. He looks like
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: a priority for me on this slate. Again, we don't
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: have a ton of spend up options. He's one of
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: my favorite plays overall tonight. So I like Jalen Brown
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: a ton here and what looks to be like a
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: statement game for Boston, a game that should be competitive.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: As you mentioned, this starting five for Charlotte has been elite.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Charlotte come in
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: and win this game. But if that happens, I still
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: expect Brown to play really well because I would be
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: very surprised if Charlotte just goes in here in roles tonight.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: So I like JB a lot here From the Charlotte side.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: They remind me of the Knicks here. The Boston Boston
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: is like okay see where JB is like SGA and
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Charlotte is like the Knicks, where I don't hate any
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: of their guys, but it's hard to say any of
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: them are priorities for me, Like LaMelo looks like Jalen
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Brunson and that he's gonna be two percent owned, so
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: you tell me that, and then a guy like MAXI
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: is gonna be eighty percent and SGA is gonna be
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: thirty forty percent. Like, I think there's a role for
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: LaMelo on this slate, but from just a projection standpoint,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: as you mentioned, really really hard to get to him
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: on a back to back at eighty eight hundred in
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: this spot, So the only case for me would be ownership.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I do think this game is close. So I like Miller,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I like con I like Miles Bridges, but hard for
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: me to prioritize any of them in this spot. I
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: think if you're doing so, you're bypassing projection. And I
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: think that's fine on a small.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Slate like this.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: We talked about it earlier. Getting away from the ownership.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I think I'm fine with it here. I'm just not
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: gonna sit here and say like this is who you
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: need to play, you know what I mean?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I agree with you on the Jaylen
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Brown stuff. Pretty easy to get up to him with
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: all the value tonight and him having small forward is
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: big because I wouldn't I don't think i'd want to
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: use a guard spot on him, but probably fine with that. Yeah,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect comparison comparing this game to okay,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: see in the Knicks in the sense that the salaries
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and the matchups all kind of are are very similar.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: So I definitely agree with you there. But yeah, I'm
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: going to probably be getting a little bit over the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: field on the Charlotte guys just because if the ownership
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: is right, what we have it right now, Sorry, that's
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: he stakes. Let me change this. So yeah, low double digits,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I still think that's fine. Probably ended up like around
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: like thirteen to fifty percent on all these guys, feels
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: okay to me. But I would probably be a Max
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: two of Charlotte, and you honestly could consider Max one.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It's a really low team Soto that they have, But
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I think Max two is fine because I kind of
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: feel like this game has a better chance to hit
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the over. And then same thing for the Celtics. I
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: think it's just gonna be a Max one of Derek
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: White and Pritchard, Max one of Kida and Foochs for
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: sure if you're considering them. I'm not really considering either
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of them tonight because Deabots is a really really good rebounder,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: So pretty much just Derek White or Jaylen Brown from me,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you we see that very similarly cool Miller of Philipowski.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I it's always a little bit tougher to answer these
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: one one of the ones because it's kind of just
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: like a projection thing. But I would say, if you're
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: playing a ton of sixers, guys, then to me it
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: makes a little bit of sense to go of Philipowski.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure that projections would probably say Brendan Miller
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: many in put there.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: No, I'm kind of with you. The one of the
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: ones are tough because it also matters like who else
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: you're playing in your lineup, as you mentioned, like in
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: a vacuum, I'm playing Brandon Miller over Philipowski. But I
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: don't think the projection is that far off, and it's
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: not where like you're crazy to play Philipowski over Miller.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Exactly what you said.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, last game on the slate, I got
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: this one really quickly only on where we had about
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes. So if you guys have any questions. Feel
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: free to ask them, and we'll get to it at
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the end of this one. But Portland at Memphis its
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: games definitely can provide us with a lot of value
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: because this will be pretty much as thin as we've
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: seen Memphis since they've got all these guys from the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: trade deadline. There might have been one or two their
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: games where they only had eight, but tonight they'll have
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: nine guys available with Cedric Coward, Santie al Dama, Scotti, Piven,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Junr and Ty Jerome all out, as well as Zach
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Gidi who's done for the year, and then John Morant
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be done for the year. They also re
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: signed Ryan Repair to a two way deal, so they
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: will That makes nine bodies available tonight and the minutes
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: will be a little bit more condensed. We've actually seen
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a couple guys from Memphis get above thirty minutes recently.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: But a really good spot for Portland here against a
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: team that is struggling defensively. The Grizzies are bottom ten
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: in defense over the last two weeks, but they're exceptionally
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: bad at rebounding the ball, so I think this is
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: just a massive, massive thought for clean Klong Donovan Klingen here.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: But Memphis is also a really big three point funnel,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: which is great for Portland because they are top three
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and three point frequency this season. The Blazers are really
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: bad in transition, mainly because they are one of the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: worst teams that taken care of the ball. Believe they're
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: dead last and turnover percentage, So lit up scoring upside
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: for whoever would be the guy that kind of hits
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: that that checks that box off for transition scoring. But
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: it sounds like Danny Afdia will be returning tonight, although
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: on a minute limit. Yeah, we'll breakdown what you've seen
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: for Portland and then if you want to dive into
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the Memphis stuff afterwards. Yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask if that's what the reports are,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: that he's going to be turning on a minute flem
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: me tonight.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's official, but he's been doing on
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: court stuff for like a week straight and then was
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: upgraded questionable. So I think that tonight's the night.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, because that's obviously very important, and the longer we
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: wait to get that news, like I think, matters on
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: this slate because if he somehow doesn't play and again
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: he's missed five games in a row or at least
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: four games in an earth. This might be the fifth. Like,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I still don't think it's a guarantee he plays tonight
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: if he's out like I want Drew Holliday. I think
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: he looks elite here, and if we don't get that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: news till after Locke Holiday won't be nearly as own
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: as he should be with all the good Guard plays.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: So again, I think this is where the game theory
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: kind of plays off, and it's Portland because we don't
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: know about Avida a little bit less intrigued as you
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: saying he's more likely to play than not, but still questionable.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Hasn't been upgrade or anything yet, so we'll just have
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: to wait and see if he's in on a minute's limit.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Tough for me to get to anything on important, except
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: for as you mentioned, Klingon, who looks like you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: one of, if not the best overall play on the
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: slate outside of the Philly guys. He's just too cheap
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: on DK still Monster game after Monster game, really good
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: spot against Memphis here. Hard for me to get away
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: from Clingon tonight. He just looks elite in this spot
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Memphis very undersized. He's again a really good play regardless
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: of Denny and the other guys. I would want Danny
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: to be out like Jeremy Grant. I think looks okay.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: The field continues to get to him. I like him
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: as a placeholder. If nothing else that gives the exposure
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: to this light game. You can always get off him
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: because we certainly want Memphis exposure.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Memphis looks like maybe the best team on the slate
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: outside of Philly, or right there with Philly. Their three guards,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Clayton Small and Cam Spencer all look good to me here.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Clayton probably looking the best as the cheapest option right now,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: but we've seen Small be really productive. He'll be back tonight.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Camp Spencer fifty one hundred. All three of these guys
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: look really really good here in my opinion. Oh Max,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: huge letdown last night, But he was really really good
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: for me on Friday night when I had the big
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: night playing him over nause. You know, he outscored Nause
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: about like thirty points that night. So no, issh you
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: getting back to him at fifty one hundred. He'll play
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: good minutes here because they just lack big men. May
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Shack at forty two hundred, I think, as we're all
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: on this slate, Taylor Hendrix, your boy forty seven hundred,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: he'd been pretty good. So yeah, Memphis is a team
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna want a lot of exposure to, and then
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Portland is clinging and then everyone else, but the everyone
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: else becomes really in play for me if Denny is out, Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Agree with you. I think you'd definitely be getting pretty
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: decent leverage on if you get the Drew Holiday stuff
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: right if Denny were to miss, as I said right now,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: with Denny, and there's I counted like ten guys that
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: have some sort of guard eligibility that I preferred over
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Drew Holiday just because he's pretty expensive. But really nothing
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: negative say about him though, because he should be pretty
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: good from in this matchups. I agree with you there. Yeah,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Donovan Klingon probably the best center play on the slight.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Him and Drummond I think are the top two by
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: a pretty wide margin. I just have nothing negative say
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: about his matchup. I think he's gonna absolutely smash tonight.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I have a take on Omex prosper I don't really
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: know if there's like numbers that could back this up,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: But I just feel like in these types of matchups
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: where there's like a big bodied center on the other side,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: he struggles against like you see against Rudy Gobert, and
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: like Dwis Randall, Nasried couldn't really do much although the
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: shot volume was really low. But like a team like
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Dallas where they don't I believe they might have been
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: missing some of the guys. Yeah, he did really well
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: against Indies and the team doesn't really have like a
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: true center Sacramento.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: He's not very good, so that would make sense.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he then to kind of like counter kind
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the counter that point, he did go for twenty five
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: and five against the same Portland team, so has shown
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: upside against the same team. I don't actually don't I
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: want to see if Clinging played in that game, because
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I know that he had been missing a few games.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, he's just gonna be so undersized
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: against the guy that Clinging tonight. I don't really know
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: if I necessarily love it, but the there were four
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: guys that stood out for Memphis as like the best
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: permanent producers this season alone. You know, he kind of
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: adds some more sample over the last two seasons. And
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: it shrinks a little bit. But Gigi Camp, Spencer, Javel
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Small and Omax are the best point minute producers all
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: on like the one point five to like one point
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: three permanent range. I grew with you a Wallerclayon though
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: he's come on along. It's coming along really nicely in
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the last few games, nine and fourteen assists in his
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: last two, played thirty plus minutes in the game against
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: India's Well, So I think that he's probably my favorite
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: option on the memphiside tonight. How I have it ranked
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and then you could if you want to go through yours,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you can. I'll do some some rules at the very
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: end here, but for me it would be Walter Clayton, Javon, Small,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Cam Spencer, so all three of the guards. Then it
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: would be probably Omax, GG Hendrix and then rupair Wells
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: in mayshek if you want to go through yours real quick?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's really similar to yours. Unfortunately, it is
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the three guards for me with Clayton, Small, Spencer and
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: then man O max Is. He's tough because he's not
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: cheap and he's getting ownership. And I'm kind of with
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: you on facing the big men, but he's still gonna
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: play a bunch, so I'll have him fourth. I do
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: think that, like after the guards, it's all jumbled, so
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: you can kind of have any order you want, especially
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: with ownership included there, like Hendrix, Mayshack, oh Max. You know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Gigi is like the best of all of them, but
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: he's the most expensive. His minutes certainly aren't secure. So
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I think that there's question marks with all these guys,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: but they're all in play. Clayton, I think, after talking
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: about is easily my favorite.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks really good. It kind of sucks he's
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: only shooting guard eligible, but I don't think that matters
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: too much on this slate. So some rules I'm considering
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: for the guys that one of the set rules for
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: this this team, it would be MEX two of small
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Spencer and Clayton, I would be MEX two of Gigi,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Prosper and Hendricks and then Max one Wells repaired, Mayshek
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and I think that pretty much covers it all. Yeah,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: those the wings look like the worst play, Like the
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: small forward guys are easily the plays on Memphis in
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: my opinion. Yeah, I'm with you, Clayton or Grimes. Any
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: take there, I feel like it's gonna that's really close. Actually,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: It's it's tough because, like Grimes is the better play
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: from a projection standpoint, because he projects for more fantasy
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: points and he's four hundred cheaper, but he's also going
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: to be ninety percent. So I feel like I have
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: to go with Grimes even though I don't like it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: How about you, Yeah, I'd say the same. I think
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: it's mainly just the pricing thing. I haven't built teams yet,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: but I would imagine pricing is going to be pretty
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: tight tonight when building teams.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I will say to your point about the
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: guard situation, like, man, there are certainly a bunch of
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: guards right now, like ten you mentioned that look better
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: than Holiday. And even if Denny is out, it's not
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: like Holliday would become the best guard on the slate.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: But I think his ownership would be low enough if
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: we get that news after lock where he would be
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: certainly worth having in tournaments. That's all I'll say.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, Rupair, he did sign, he signed a two way.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: He's so he's back. And then yeah, Taylor Hendricks did
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: just get downgraded, so could be eight bodies available tonight
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: for for Memphis, but we'll see they still have like Coward, Jerome,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and Pippen are all doubtful. So there's not a there's
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: not a guarantee that all three of those guys were
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: to be out. But if Hendricks smiss then it's like
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you got to play a lot of Memphis guys tonight.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: That's just eight bodies, is the That's like the golden number? Yeah?
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, Max, with Hendricks out starts to look not like
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: you can't get away from him, it starts to look
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: a lot better.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love it, but Memphis isn't. It's a
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: priority on this late they just have to be Yep.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I would probably rule against us tonight. I'd probably be
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: playing Max. If you're just playing one lineup, that's like
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the that's like the core building block for me.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: If you were playing one lineup, would you be more
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: apt to get off maxither Grimes Grimes for sure? Yeah,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I'm with you because the thing is like when we
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: talk about this a lot, there just aren't really pivots
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: off of MAXI like, there's a couple guys, but there
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: are pivots off of Grimes. Like, yeah, those guys are
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: project for three fantasy points less, but like there's still
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: a bunch of guys that project within like the three
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: to five panis fantasy point ranges. Grimes, you don't get
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: that with MAXI some totally with you.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's really like the only comparable option is Shae.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you might be given a like the similar
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: amount of projection going from Yeah.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: And also like Shae is still going to be owned.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: You can find pivots in the Grimes range that are
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: going to be pretty low owned because there's so many
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: good Guard plays tonight, yep.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, if that's all the questions we have,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: we'll get out of here. But any any closing thoughts
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: before we close this thing downe.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: No, it should be a fun slate, kind of a
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: sprint slate starting at seven and in eight. So kind
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: of weird that we don't have more games on a Wednesday,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: but is what it is. I can't, I've I'm done
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: guessing what the NBA schedule is going to look like
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: on a day to day basis.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been pretty wild. It seems like they're kind
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: of condensing the games onto Tuesdays. And Thursdays now, which
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: makes it makes a little bit tougher for me having
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: to you know, right up nine games versus the four
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: games and talking with you on these Wednesday slates, so
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: it's always a nice little breather in between. But yeah,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: well I'll be back tomorrow the title, and then I
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: believe we have a MMA show tomorrow as well. Obviously
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: all the golf content is up on the site now.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: If not, we'll be later and then Matt will be
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: back on Friday with Ham. Yeah, that should do it
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: for this one. Good luck tonight, everybody, and we'll catch
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: you tomorrow.
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