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Ian Furness 9/25 H2: Who has to go? Danny O'Neill and the Daily Power Play! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star-Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KKR-FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 1: as the Rocky. Sam Donald expected to start for the
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks on Sunday in Washington against the Commanders. We're keeping
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  Speaker 1: an eye on the situation with Julian Love. Should hear
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  Speaker 1: very soon what his status is. He was a calf injury,
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  Speaker 1: DNP yesterday. 49ers taking a hit. Speaking of calf injuries,
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  Speaker 1: Nick Bosa is going to miss at least the next
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  Speaker 1: few weeks. 49ers already have 20 players on the injured
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  Speaker 1: reserve list, so they can't even put them on right now.
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  Speaker 1: Not any spots available. No room at the end. 35-14
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  Speaker 1: win for the Falcons with the Packers last night. Week
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  Speaker 1: 3 kicked off. Michael Penix looked good. Threw for a.
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  Speaker 1: 256 and a touchdown. Run game dominant. They ran. 242
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  Speaker 1: and three touchdowns with two guys named Robinson, Bijon, and
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  Speaker 1: Bryan Jr. It's pretty dominant. Packers run. I'll be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you. I love Green Bay, and I love the stadium,
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  Speaker 1: and I love going there. But I hate the team
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  Speaker 1: because every time it felt like we went there, CX
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  Speaker 1: gets their ass kicked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm enjoying them losing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Me too.
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  Speaker 1: They're not good. Kraken, it's Flames 4-3 in last night's
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  Speaker 1: preseason game. One more tomorrow in Vancouver before the open
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  Speaker 1: regular season six days from now in Calgary. Kraken, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, their defenseman last night, Ville Odovinen, he was fine.
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  Speaker 2: He was finding.
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  Speaker 1: Finding. Just under $ 3, 000 for beating the crap out of
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  Speaker 1: a kid last night. Same guy that took a run
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  Speaker 1: at him and a couple other guys last week in
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  Speaker 1: a preseason game. So a little retaliation, but $ 2, 000 well spent.
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  Speaker 1: We'll actually hear from him later on. It was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a, there were some people upset about yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how you do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 1: I had a great, my man Stu Vichu from the
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  Speaker 1: Kraken Hockey Network, our great editor, said, hockey's not a
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  Speaker 1: nice sport.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: 100%.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a nice sport.
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  Speaker 3: Got to be tough.
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  Speaker 1: Don't expect people to be nice.
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  Speaker 3: The guy that got the crap beat out of him
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  Speaker 3: is probably like, okay, that's how it is.
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  Speaker 1: I probably won't take cheap shot runs at guys the
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  Speaker 1: next time I see them.
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  Speaker 3: Learn your lesson.
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  Speaker 1: You learned a lesson. A valuable lesson. All right. Hour
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  Speaker 1: number two. Washington State Beef Commission Football Friday. Football Fridays
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  Speaker 2: Beef.
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  Speaker 1: It's what's for dinner. Got all kinds of games coming
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  Speaker 1: up this weekend on KJR. Pack day tomorrow. Huskies play,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even mention this in the headlines, my mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Huskies play at 8 p.m.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's late. It's like past my bedtime.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we talked yesterday a little bit about the
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  Speaker 1: optimum times, game times, you know, for like Mariners, Kraken,
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  Speaker 1: you know, midweek games, you know, games that you're playing
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  Speaker 1: all the time. We did not get into the entire, like,
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  Speaker 1: college football world. Like, That's just too late.
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  Speaker 3: It's way too late. But it's on the East Coast.
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  Speaker 3: Not that people are watching it. Well, but you mentioned Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota's the central time zone, so it's 10 o'clock start
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  Speaker 1: for them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't mind. You know, this whole Big Ten thing,
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  Speaker 1: there's just the only good with the Big Ten would
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  Speaker 1: be the finances.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: But even that, I have to ask the question, how
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  Speaker 1: good is it? UCLA is underwater.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Washington gets a half a share. Their NIL money isn't
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  Speaker 1: where it needs to be. Yes, I'll stop you right there. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's better than what was going on with the Pac-12 disintegrating.
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  Speaker 1: But this has not been a, this has not been
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  Speaker 1: a raging success unless your name's Indiana.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just rolling in it now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, Oregon's probably going right now. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it'd be kind of good to, you know, not be
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  Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, although they'd have to play USC anyway. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But nevertheless, like, Oregon is going to be gone from
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs this weekend if they lose again.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, don't they also have to
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  Speaker 3: play Ohio State this weekend?
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  Speaker 1: See, that's the thing. We talked about that with Mandel.
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  Speaker 1: It's not necessarily an elimination game this week, but it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty damn close for the Duckies.
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  Speaker 3: Sure seems like it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bigger game for the Duckies than it is
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  Speaker 1: for the never-trusted Trojans. So that's coming up this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Just a real quick Mariner note on Rick Riz weekend,
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  Speaker 1: which should be all positive with Rick stepping down. It
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  Speaker 1: won't be because the team's playing, by and large, meaningless games.
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  Speaker 1: Getting eliminated yesterday. And in Mariner fashion, just go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and blow a lead in that game last night. Not
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  Speaker 1: that it matters. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: No, but at the same time, it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: come on. I mean, I guess at that point, I
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  Speaker 4: was glad I knew we were eliminated beforehand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been a kick in the you-know-whats.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have.
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  Speaker 1: Anders brought this up this morning, and I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was interesting because we've talked about this. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: mollywop on Monday, and we'll jump into everything. on Monday
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  Speaker 1: with the Molly Watt Monday guys, with Nathan and Chris,
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  Speaker 1: probably our final regularly scheduled visit of the year with
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  Speaker 1: those guys. And I know that the perception always is
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  Speaker 1: they're 100% negative, and honestly, when it calls for it,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they are. They're also positive. Chris demanded at
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  Speaker 1: the start of the year, he said, I demand that
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  Speaker 1: they get to the World Series. It was really compelling
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  Speaker 1: stuff that he did that first show. And I think
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  Speaker 1: we all thought, well, I think this is the year.
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  Speaker 1: They don't get there. And now the question, and Anders
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  Speaker 1: brought this up, we talked about this the other day,
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  Speaker 1: the question now is what's next?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: The assumption everyone assumes Dan's gone. The question I would have,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll throw this at you, Ashley, and people can
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  Speaker 1: chime in at 49451, what do you want to see
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  Speaker 1: happen over the next four or five days? Do you
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  Speaker 1: want Dan out? Do you want Dan and the whole
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff out? Do you want Dan, coaching staff, and
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  Speaker 1: Jerry and Justin out? Like what would make people happy?
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  Speaker 4: I'll say, first of all, I want more of what
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  Speaker 4: Cal did from higher ups. I want straight up being blunt.
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  Speaker 4: This season was a disappointment on all levels. I don't
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  Speaker 4: want anyone sugarcoating it. I want you to be in
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  Speaker 4: depth about where you failed and then what you're going
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  Speaker 4: to do about it. And I hope that means, and
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  Speaker 4: I hate this because I love Dan Wilson as a player,
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  Speaker 4: but he is not a good manager. And I think
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  Speaker 4: he was put in a bad position at something he
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  Speaker 4: was not prepared to do.
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  Speaker 1: Let me phrase it this way. Would it make you
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  Speaker 1: feel any better about the direction of the organization if
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  Speaker 1: they do the hard thing and actually fire him? Or
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  Speaker 1: does it even matter if they say fire or steps
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  Speaker 1: down or mutually agreed upon?
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  Speaker 3: I don't care how it happens.
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  Speaker 4: Because I would understand trying to preserve his legacy as
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  Speaker 4: a player in this organization and not burn that bridge
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  Speaker 4: or embarrass him. And just knowing the way they work, too.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I can understand that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the tough position when you put someone
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  Speaker 3: like Dan in that position, and especially when he isn't
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  Speaker 3: prepared for it.
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  Speaker 1: The end result is going to be the same. He's
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  Speaker 1: not coming back. I think we all can assume. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: never assume.
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  Speaker 3: But my goodness, Will, people lose their.
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  Speaker 1: … I think the easiest, best, and honestly, the best thing, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: is for him on Sunday just to say, this is it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm done.
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  Speaker 1: I told Jerry today I'm stepping down. They need to
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  Speaker 1: have somebody else come in. Away you go. The hard
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  Speaker 1: thing is you've got a whole coaching staff there and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. I'll say for me, because I hope Dan
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  Speaker 1: does it that way. And I think in Dan's case,
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  Speaker 1: I think he deserves that. Probably shouldn't have been put
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  Speaker 1: in that position in the first place of being not
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  Speaker 1: just a manager, but no interim, just the manager. We've
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  Speaker 1: all talked about that. I think they've got to get
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  Speaker 1: that entire coaching staff. I heard these guys, the morning
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  Speaker 1: guys brought up, you know, oh, maybe Pete Woodward's sick. Why?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Starting staff has been garbage.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and that's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: I should say garbage. That's a bad word.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: The starting staff has underperformed.
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  Speaker 3: They've been a disappointment.
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  Speaker 1: The bullpen didn't have the arms and all that, but
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  Speaker 1: they haven't been as good as they needed to be either.
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  Speaker 1: But I think if you just look at the starting staff,
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  Speaker 1: because what Pete had to work with in the bullpen
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  Speaker 1: was less than they probably would have liked.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 1: I would, for me, I would like to see a
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  Speaker 1: complete just purge of everything on field. Now, Jerry and Justin,
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  Speaker 1: I think I could be convinced either way. There's a big,
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  Speaker 1: big part of me that says, Ashley, they are 11
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  Speaker 1: years in, and they have two playoff appearances, and that
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  Speaker 1: just should not be good enough for anybody.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: At the same time, I can look at some of
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  Speaker 1: the roster and say, okay, well, We've got to give
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  Speaker 1: credit where credit's due. But maybe it's time for just
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  Speaker 1: a fresh voice all around. It's the worst thing I
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  Speaker 1: could do in sports radio. I just don't have a
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  Speaker 1: strong opinion about Jerry and Justin as much as I should.
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  Speaker 1: I could go either way with that. I do want
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  Speaker 1: to hear from Stanton. I think that's a really important thing.
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  Speaker 1: All joking about who's asking the questions aside and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. I think he's got to be accountable. And
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  Speaker 1: I think ownership has to be accountable. Because by and large,
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  Speaker 1: we all pretty much believe ownership were the ones that
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  Speaker 1: hired dan wilson in the first place right so i
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  Speaker 1: i would not be surprised though off on sunday pre-game
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  Speaker 1: in the dugout or sunday post game that dan says
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  Speaker 1: i'm stepping down i think it's the easiest best cleanest
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  Speaker 1: thing to do uh and then you move on and
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  Speaker 1: then you know see what ownership does with the with
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the front office but i think that
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  Speaker 1: would be the easiest thing to do and i think
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  Speaker 1: i don't know if it would appease people or not
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  Speaker 1: i think people want i think a lot of Not everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of folks that would like
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  Speaker 1: to see someone's head on a platter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, there are a lot of people because they're so
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  Speaker 3: angry about how this went. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And rightfully so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it was a massive disappointment all around. Again,
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  Speaker 4: because of the high expectations. And you look at what
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  Speaker 4: happened after we went to the playoffs for the first
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  Speaker 4: time in 19 years or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 2: 19 years? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: 21 long years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Then the next season we come back. And then we
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  Speaker 3: don't make the playoffs. And it's like, oh, come on.
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  Speaker 3: And we thought like this was the start. This was
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  Speaker 3: a run.
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  Speaker 4: Then last year, you're all, you know, all the way
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  Speaker 4: to the game seven of the ALCS thinking that was
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  Speaker 4: gut run. enough, and now at least we're coming back
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  Speaker 4: next year, and we've got this now. We've figured this out.
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  Speaker 4: We've cracked this code. And then to not even, you're
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  Speaker 4: not even taking it down to the final game of
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  Speaker 4: the year, hoping that you have a chance at the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you basically had no chance, and it was
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  Speaker 3: like praying for a miracle.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the end result's going to be the same. There's
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  Speaker 1: going to be changes. The question is, like, do people demand,
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  Speaker 1: they want to hear, do somebody's head on a platter, like,
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  Speaker 1: hear the word fired?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And I think there will be a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: who want that. And I think there will be a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people, or I know there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people with strong opinions about Jerry and Justin and they
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  Speaker 3: want them gone. I'm with you. I don't have a
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  Speaker 3: strong opinion either way because I do think the.
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  Speaker 4: Failure this year was 100% on what was happening from
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  Speaker 4: that dugout out onto the field. And probably even inside
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  Speaker 4: the clubhouse. But, you know, with Cal saying, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we didn't, he didn't say we didn't care, but he
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  Speaker 4: basically said there was a lot of people that a
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  Speaker 4: lot of times weren't putting forth their full efforts.
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  Speaker 3: I agree. And that's on coaching and players.
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  Speaker 1: That's 100% on that. Okay, we'll take a break. Come back.
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  Speaker 1: Danny O'Neill, weekly visit. He's got a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: on his mind. Graham Bensinger. By the way, if people
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  Speaker 1: missed it earlier, Greg had a little note on that.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get to that with Danny coming up. Weird. Graham
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  Speaker 1: Bensinger wasn't actually truthful in some of the things he said.
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  Speaker 1: So weird. It just feels like a guy filled with
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  Speaker 1: ethics and stuff. I can't believe that. We'll get to that,
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  Speaker 1: plus see our conversation with Danny O'Neill next. Weekly visit
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  Speaker 1: Big thanks to Eric Gordon and company. More on them
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  Speaker 1: in a moment. Hello, Danny O'Neill.
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  Speaker 4: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. How are you, Ian? Good.
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  Speaker 1: Always hear your voice on a Friday. It's always good
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  Speaker 1: to hear that. There's a lot to discuss. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to Graham Bensinger. We'll get to the Seahawks on the field,
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  Speaker 1: the dark side, all that fun stuff. Let me start here, though.
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  Speaker 1: I just brought this up with Ashley a minute ago.
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  Speaker 3: You.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe me, Ashley, I think maybe some people that are
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  Speaker 1: more media people probably look at it differently than maybe
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  Speaker 1: a fan who doesn't do this for a living. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be condescending. I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: be that. That just sounds like a condescending. What a
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  Speaker 1: dipstick I am. Anyway, I asked the question for the Mariners.
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  Speaker 1: What do you want to see happen over the next
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  Speaker 1: four days? Let's assume Dan's out. Do you want to
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  Speaker 1: hear he was fired or does it matter, number one?
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  Speaker 1: And number two, the entire coaching staff out? Number three,
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  Speaker 1: what about Jerry and Justin? What do you want to
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  Speaker 1: see and hear happen?
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  Speaker 2: I would like to hear that Dan resigned and kind
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  Speaker 2: of everybody recognizes this just isn't the right fit going forward.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any preference about the coaching staff. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that this season can be attributed to the
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  Speaker 2: instruction that players received. If the new manager wants to
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  Speaker 2: have his own guys in here, I'm fine with that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a strong feeling about that. It's tough
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  Speaker 2: to answer for the front office because I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a defensible and rational argument to say, hey, given the
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  Speaker 2: operational constraints, the payroll that this team has afforded, the
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  Speaker 2: guys that are in there do a good job of
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  Speaker 2: putting a good team on the field that contends for
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  Speaker 2: playoff berths, usually not this year, and has the possibility
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  Speaker 2: of catching fire in the postseason and getting to a
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  Speaker 2: World Series, which we came close to last year. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's a defensible position. My position is I'd like
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  Speaker 2: someone else to drive. I think that this year reflected
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  Speaker 2: some of the difficulties that they've had culturally within the organization.
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  Speaker 2: I think that this franchise is screaming out for a
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  Speaker 2: different strong voice and maybe getting sort of a real
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  Speaker 2: hardline manager is enough to do that. But this, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's 10 years now and two playoff berths. It would
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  Speaker 2: be my preference that somebody else got to drive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, our thoughts were much the same. I think for Dan,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the best thing would be just whether it's
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  Speaker 1: pregame on Sunday or postgame Sunday. Hell, maybe it's even today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm managing my last game or I'm done. What if
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  Speaker 1: he does it after Sunday? But, you know, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: stepping down. It's time for someone else. I think I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to see that just for him. You know, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we need to, I mean, I know
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people want guys fired and that maybe
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  Speaker 1: makes you feel a little bit better for a moment,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't, what's the difference? The end result's the same.
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  Speaker 1: He's not coming back. We all understand that. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and Dan Wilson is all things Mariner Hall of Fame, right? So,
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  Speaker 1: that part of it. The coaching staff, I would differ
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  Speaker 1: with you there. I think they just need a clean start.
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  Speaker 1: I just think, just to turf them all, I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, some of the pettiness we heard from some
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  Speaker 1: of the coaches this year, they're yelling at, you know,
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  Speaker 1: blaming the media for things. There's a couple guys and
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  Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing. The defense was the worst
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  Speaker 1: defense in the league. So Perry Hill, maybe you're not
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: a genius. Manny Acta, a lot of people thought he
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: should have been the manager anyway, but they didn't make
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: him the manager then. They're certainly not going to do
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: it now. Move on. Pete Woodward, to me, the pitching coach...
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: And there's two of them, and there's three hitting coaches.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I guess there's only two. Well, no, they brought the
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: other guy up. There's three hitting coaches. Hitting was awful.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Starting rotation was bad. I think he just– I like
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: a clean start with the pitching stuff. You go back
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: to Jerry and Justin in the front office. I tend
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: to lean towards you. Ashley and I had the same
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: conversation a few minutes ago. I'm not really– I don't
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: have a massively strong feeling one way or the other
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: because there's part of me that still looks at the
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: roster and says, hey, you put a pretty good product
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: out there. They just didn't perform. And sometimes it's on
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: the players, right, or the manager on the field. At
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: the same time, for every good move you've made and
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: good draft pick you've made and what have you, good
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: trade you've made, well, there's the Rob Refsnyders and the A.J.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Pollocks and the Colton Wongs, and then, oh, by the way,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: you went and traded for a Taylor Ward who ended
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: up being the worst player in baseball over the last
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: two months of the season. So I don't know. I
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: guess I'm torn there, Danny.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's fair to say that. I would say,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: for me, one of the things I look at is
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: that you've got– that finger pointing that you mentioned, kind
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: of the media being the problem. Well, in some ways,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: that's a reflection of the tone that's been set from
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: the top of the baseball operations on down. That's how
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I feel. In Jerry's defense, he's done a pretty good
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: job of overall turning around the franchise that he inherited,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: and they are in much better position than they were
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: 10 years ago. But whether it's sort of the looking
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: at players like widgets and not communicating with them. I
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: do think that there's been a toll on their baseball culture.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: That's widgets.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Get out there and do your job. I mean,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: there's a, it's a people business. Like I do, I
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: do believe that. And, and you, and you're right. You
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: can look at this season and say, Hey, when you're
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: three best hitters, the three guys that you've paid for, who,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: by the way, we were all on board to pay
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Cal Raleigh, Josh Naylor and Julio Rodriguez, when all of
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: them have substandard years, how's that on the GM? Like,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty valid argument. Yes.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: On the, on the flip side, I would say like, man, when,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: when things start to go bad and you don't have
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: ways to be able to, there's, there's no one internally
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: that's able to stem the tide and get people to
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: be moving in a, in a positive direction. I think
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: some of that reflects the culture that's been built and
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: that might pervade the baseball operations.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I would tend to agree. Daniel O'Neill joining us. By
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the way, Mike McDonald just moments ago speaking on Friday
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: after their walkthrough. Julian Love is indeed out for the weekend.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: He will not play. So Rodney Thomas and A.J. Finley
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: are your starting picks. safeties, uh, since Eamon Ward is
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: more of a strong linebacker, uh, though you're starting safeties
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: this week. So no, uh, Julian Love. Good news is
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold off the injury report. Sam Darnold will play
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Washington commanders and start against the commanders. So, uh,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: that's the latest we'll get to the Seahawks, uh, on
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the field in just a second. Uh, Danny O'Neill joining
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: us before I move off the Mariners.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I'll wait.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: We've all had our kind of our say, um, Rick
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Riz is saying goodbye after 41 years on the mic
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: here in Seattle, 50-plus overall in baseball. What do you
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: want to say about Rick?
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: We all would be lucky to love our jobs as
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: much as Rick Riz loved his. And the actual joy
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: that Rick conveyed behind the mic is.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I'm envious of someone who was able to see the
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: world as positively as he did. But I also think
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: that he spread that optimism and that happiness. We've, we're
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: lucky in Seattle to have had as many tremendous voices as,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: as we've had from knee house to Rabel to Bob Rondo.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Like there have been some incredible, incredible and guys that
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: are there now too, but I, I've always, Rick Riz's
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: just sunny disposition and the fact of how he made
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: this place his home and really carried on Dave's legacy
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: in a lot of ways It's really, really special. And
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I'm glad he's– what do the kids say? I'm glad
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: he's getting his flowers. I'm glad that that happens because
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: in today's world where workers are treated increasingly as disposable widgets,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: it's great to celebrate someone who's had a tremendous run,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and Riz certainly has.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: He's just a treasure, man. Absolutely a treasure. Daniel O'Neill
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: joining us. On the other side of the broadcast spectrum...
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: We've got a guy named Graham Bensinger.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Well, if you're watching Mariners games on Root for the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: last few years, before they transitioned and made their way
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: from Root Sports to their own little streaming channel, you
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: would see these promos all the time. Graham Bensinger, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: we joked about it on the air a lot, actually,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: over the years. Like, who the hell is Graham Bensinger?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Why does he have these big names and just some
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: syndicated show? And I don't know, my guess, he felt very,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you know what he felt like? He felt very Jordan
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Schultz-like to me. You know, like Howard's kid who is
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: kind of an insider, but really, for being honest, he
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: pays for guys. He gives guys gifts, lets them stay
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: in a penthouse suite in New York. He kind of
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: he bribes guys for information and stuff and it's the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Schultz way, I guess. But anyway, he, uh, but Benziger
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: kind of feels that way too. Like, who are you
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and why, like, why are you getting that interview and not,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: you know, a, B or C that actually is a
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: journalist or a bigger name? Well, he got to sit
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: down for some reason with Mike McDonald in McDonald's house.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I give him credit for that. And we all know
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the story this week. And then the stuff got published. I'll,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I'll let you have a, I know you wrote about
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: this this week as well in the dang apostrophe, uh, Danny,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell found out and talked about it on his
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: show earlier. You know how Ben Singer released a statement?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: They gave the Seahawks an opportunity and all this stuff.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: He sent a link to the PR staff and basically
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: gave him like 20 minutes to look at it. And
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: if he didn't hear back, he just went with it. So, like,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: he lied about that, too. I mean, so the whole
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: thing's greasy. But how would you describe the Graham-Ben Singer-Mike
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: McDonald incident?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I thought the interview itself was really good. And the
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: one thing, cause I have similar feelings about, about Graham
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Bensinger and his background, like the first, the way he
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: rose to notoriety was he's the one that interviewed Terrell
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Owens in 2005 that got Terrell suspended, where he complained
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: about the Eagles, not adequately celebrating one of his accomplishments.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: He had an internet radio show then, and that's kind
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: of been something that launched this career. And again, look, I,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of admiration for people who kind
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: of form their own route. And he's done that with
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: syndicated radio or syndicated television interviews that air during rain
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: delays for the most part. But like, I like long
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: form interviews and I thought it was interesting. The things that,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: that McDonald's said, especially about dealing with what very much
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: sounded like depression. And, and I, I think that's awesome
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: that those discussions are happening. As soon as I saw
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: the Sean Payton clip, the immediate reaction was like, oh,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: that's an awesome story. But instantaneously, I was like, I'll
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: bet Mike did not expect that to go out. Even
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: before I started looking at the lighting or the cues
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: for it, I probably thought, initially thought maybe he just
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: got too comfortable. Maybe he just, the interview had gone
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: on so long. But then when you looked at it,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I don't think he knew. And that
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: brings up a different question of, and for me as
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: a journalist, or when I was doing journalism, it's, I
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: think it's fair to, the person you're talking to should
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: know what's on the record and off the record. And
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I've seen in the past, few days, all sorts of
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: people saying, well, if you don't declare it's off the record,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: then it's on the record. And you're like, yeah, some
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: people handle it that way. But when you start getting
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: into these very blurry situations where you're sending an interview
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: for approval to the team, like that's not normal. And
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: then the fact that they didn't object you take as
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: a green light to publish whatever you want, but then
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: when it becomes an issue, you're like, man, something about
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: this whole process clearly was confusing to the people involved.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: And it's never a good thing when you're a journalist
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: and the person that you've talked to ends up feeling
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: that you hosed them, that you aired them out. And
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: even if it's not your fault at all, that's usually
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: a good sign that something went screwy along the way.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I... The whole on-the-record, off-the-record, there's... There's assumptions, and
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you're not rolling. You don't think you're rolling. I know
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: it's a hot mic, and there's been those that have
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: complained and said, well, McDonald this and McDonald that. It's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a casual conversation you're having, and that's going to be
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: taped when you do the interview. You have active people
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: around the set setting things up, moving lights and cameras
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: around and doing all that. The assumption is that that's
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: off the record. And you know, that that's just, that's just,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: it's an assumed it's, it's understood. You shouldn't have to
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: say it, you know, and Mike's just trying to break
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the ice and, and, you know, get things loosened up,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: which I appreciate as someone that's, we've all done interviews
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and long form interviews. I appreciate the fact he did that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: You know, like we, you know, we tape interviews. You
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: did the same thing when you were in radio, when
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you were across the street, we, we pre-tape just because
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: of show schedules and guest schedules, we all pre-tape a
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: lot of interviews. And a lot of times it's, We
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: pre-taped those and like, you know, we're setting things up,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Ashley's setting things up and we're talking to the guy
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and then, you know, oh yeah, we're good to go. Okay, well,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: here we go. Three, two, one.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: But we've could have had a five minute conversation.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: We just did that with, with Greg Cosell today, which
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: we do every Friday. Well, like what if Greg would
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: have said something inflammatory in the first five minutes before
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: we actually did the, the weekly segment and we played it? Well,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: there'd be ramifications. Like he would never come on the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: show again.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Like in this case, this guy doesn't have anybody to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: answer to, and I think that's the problem.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Or sometimes when you're taping an interview, and I
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: actually wasn't present for this, but it's a Monday after
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks have lost a game in Cincinnati that included
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: a difficult penalty against a defensive tackle. for roughing the
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: passer on an interception return from Earl Thomas. And as
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: two of the members of the Monday afternoon radio show
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: are waiting to tape it, that defensive tackle who read
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the criticism in the Kitsap Sun comes in and questions
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: one of those fellows who used to work at your
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: station as well. And at one point it makes the
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: expression that it was an F word. I'm not going
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: to forget the quarterback and forget you. That tape never
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: saw the light of day either.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: No, and it should have. And it should have.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: It should have.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: But what you're bringing up is like when I worked
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: for the Seattle Times, I spent a lot of time
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: talking to guys in the locker room, a lot of
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: time interviewing. But there were times that I was just
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: talking to guys. And the rule that I had with
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: people was if I'm not writing it down, don't, I'm,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not quoting you directly. Like we're talking. And there
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: were times that somebody would say something that I'd want
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: to use. And I would say to them, is it
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: okay if I use that in the story? Because this
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: is my, I believe that the operating question is, is
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: about fairness. It is fair for the person, like the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: fairest thing to do is that the person you're talking
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to knows that what they are saying is potentially going
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: to is eligible to be used in print. They should
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: understand that. And all of the different things about like, well,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: if you don't specify a top of the record, then
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: it is on the record. Like, yeah, that's true for
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: politicians and CEOs, but it's also a weird situation. If
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I'm telling jokes with a player and then all of
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: a sudden they say something and I'm like, Oh, I'm
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: going to use that. Like the player should know or
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: the coach should know, Hey, what I'm saying is eligible
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: to be used. And again, And about getting to that,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: that Ferris point, I think everybody involved, the story is funny.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: It demonstrates sort of the paranoia and competitiveness of coaches.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody looks too bad, but I come
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: away from that very clear that Graham Bensinger was operating
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: in a sort of move fast and beg for forgiveness
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: if they don't like what happened. And that's how you
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: get into trouble as a journalist. That, that is, that
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: is how you burn relations. Yeah.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: It's the, the, the ask for forgiveness, not permission. That,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: that sounds good and fine, but not in journalism. I,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: The injury report has come out. Julian Love out. Ty
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Okada out. So both starting safeties are out. But nowhere
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: on the injury report do I see the name Sam Darnold.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: He is a full go. The commanders this weekend are
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: missing their starting guard. They've got actually five players, including
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: their starting guard. Jayden Daniels, their starting quarterback, and their
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: best defensive player, Frankie Louville, all out for the game.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's such a thing as a
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: stress-free game, especially going across the country, although that doesn't
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: matter anymore. Those guys have been fine with even since
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the end of the Pete Carroll era going across the country.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Quick thoughts on the Seahawks' defense against Marcus Mariota. I
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: think he played down the street somewhere in Oregon.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: He did, and he's a good backup quarterback in this week.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Like he's, he's kind of on that list that drew
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: lock has written himself on too, but Seattle defense and
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Julian love is a hell of a player and he's
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: been really important to them. But the run that Seattle
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: defense has been on and the carryover that is, that
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: is from last year, people in the league will tell
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: you that year to year offense carries over more consistently
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: than defense. And that's true because it's tied to quarterbacks,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: but this defense, the number of people that they brought
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: back from last year, the way they're playing and the
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: way this thing has been built, I just, and, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Seattle's got it starting quarterback back, man, that game against Arizona,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: that second half was a, It's about as one-sided a
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: game as you can possibly see in the NFL, the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: way that they just squished him. And honestly, I don't
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: think Washington is going to be able to be much
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: more effective than Arizona was against Seattle. And the Seahawks
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: offense should be better with Donald back.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I would agree.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Hopefully, I don't think there's a stress-free, but it's as
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: close to it as you should probably get, even with
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels. Dan Quinn does not have a good roster.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for the guy. He just does not
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: have a good roster there. That's a train wreck of
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: a team. Very old, not very good, not very talented.
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• 31:08
  Speaker 2: The next edition will be, I'm looking at sending one
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: out tomorrow morning before the Huskies. Oh, yeah. To explain
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: that I can't be expected to compete with Larry Ellison's
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: sixth wife when it comes to donations to the program.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: There's a Wall Street Journal story about all the money
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: that she's given and the things that she's orchestrating that
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: just illustrates how weird and awkward the entire financing of
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• 31:37
  Speaker 1: You also probably will be, if you decide to watch
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: your alma mater play, you'll have to watch it starting
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: at 11 p.m. Eastern time. Enjoy that, buddy.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's taxing. I'm getting up there in years. Usually
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I can make it, though. Usually I can make it
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: through even these 11 p.m. East Coast starts.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: By the way, for those of us wondering for a
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• 31:59
  Speaker 1: In New York right now?
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: It's supposed to be getting there, but the weathermen here
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: are like the weathermen there. They wave their arms and
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: scream about stuff that never happens. Okay.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Take note of that, Ashley.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: But also notice a Nor'easter has an apostrophe in it,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: just like the day....
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: That dang apostrophe. That dang apostrophe. Well.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: That dang apostrophe is lumen.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: That dang apostrophe will pop up anywhere.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: It will. Noted. Well done. We'll talk to you next week,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Take care, guys.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: That's Danny O'Neill. We'll take a break. Come back. A
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: little daily power play. Fines aplenty for the Kraken last night.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: We'll tell you about that next. All right, Daily Power Play,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: home of the Kraken, 93.3 KGFM. Kraken last night getting
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a 4-3 shootout win over the Calgary Flames in the
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: final home preseason game. Final preseason game is tomorrow in Vancouver.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: We'll have that game for you over on 9.50 on
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the AM dial with Huskies starting at the same time
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: at 4 o'clock with the pregame show. It was a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: wild night. I'll be honest with you. I'm not a huge...
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I don't like preseason anything most of the time, but
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: none of us do as sports fans. But last night
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: was wild. Seattle fell behind. The one thing that Seattle
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: has done under Lane Lambert, and he was preaching this
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: all last year and we're starting to see it now,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: hockey's not a nice sport.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they can be mean.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: If I had a beer every time that I heard
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the great Edzo, Eddie Olchek, say over the years that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: he was doing the games, Johnny, where's the response? There's
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: got to be a response now. I did a game
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: last year. He slammed his hand on the table in
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the booth upstairs when I was doing a game with
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: him because guys were just getting shoved around, young guys
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: getting taken advantage of, and nobody stepped up. Called team toughness.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Never happened. Lambert been sideways about that since he got here.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I think the message has been finally delivered. Last night
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: was a complete gong show at times. And the Kraken
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: were taking none of it. Mackie Samaskevich got smashed kind
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: of on what looked to be probably a clean hit,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: but maybe a little bit late. Kapokako and everybody else
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: jumped right in, jumped the guy. You just got to
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: stand up for your teammates sometimes, in all sports, but
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: certainly in hockey. Well, that happened last night. There was
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a brouhaha, and then a few
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: minutes later, a guy named Brennan Offman from Calgary, who
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: last week took a run at a couple Kraken players,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: including Ville Adivainen, who's trying to make the team. As
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: a young defenseman for Seattle, he's a big fella. Well,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Hoffman did the same thing again last night. And he
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: got tuned up pretty good. Mike Benton caught up with
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Vinen today. Billy, first off, I want to kind of
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: go back through last night just from how things developed
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: physically and emotionally.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: What was your take on how that game progressed?
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Well, obviously there was a couple of fights before that
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: my incident. And then so it was kind of a
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: fiery game. And then, you know, the previous game he
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: caught me with a high hit. And then, you know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I feel like he was chirping us during that game.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: And then, yeah, he hit me again. And then just
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: chuck him up. I mean, did it go a little over? Yeah,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: maybe a little bit. And then, so I got fined
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: for that. And that's, it is what it is. But, yeah,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: my game's physical. And, you know, that's really it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: What did you make out of your teammates and how
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: also they responded?
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: No, they were very supportive. We're a tight team here,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: as you could see yesterday. It's good to see the
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: togetherness within the group.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: All right. Two things. One, that part of it. The
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: game changed when Seattle got physical. They were getting outplayed.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: They were playing like garbage against a team that most
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: of those guys weren't even being in the NHL. It changed.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: That's good. Two, I just love the comment. He was
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: chirping us, so I was chucking him.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I chucked him up.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Chucked him up.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm going to start using. Oh, did you
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: chuck him up?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: He chucked him up. Chirped. If you're chirping, you might
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: get chucked up.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: That's right. That's the yin and the yang.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Of it all.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: He got fined $ 2, 190. 72, which is the maximum of a
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: wild blonde of the CBA. What a random name.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: He chirped around and... Chucked out.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: He chirped around and found out. But he got chucked up.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Don't chuck him up anymore. Go get him, D-Lay. Go
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: get him.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Out of Vining, man. He played great last night. I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: had him penciled to be in Coachella Valley today. He
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: played great just before all that other stuff. He was
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a best player along with Grubauer. So we'll see what
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: it turns out. But there you go. A little more
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: physical team this year.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Listen, they don't have a lot of skill. They don't
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: have high-end skill. They just don't. So how do you
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: combat that? Well, hockey is what you call a try-hard sport.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: And if you're hard to play against, if you're a
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: hard team to play against and not a fun team
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to play against, a physical team, you can make up
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: for that. You can make up for that. All right,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Rob Rang, we've got a lot
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: of college football to discuss. And I've got a little
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: giveaway for you, a little prize for you, a little
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: kiss on the cheek from Ian to you, Ian and
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Ashley to you for your weekend for somebody. We'll do
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that next.