Latest / Conspiracy! The Show / The Craziest Hip Hop Conspiracies Pt. 2
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- 0:10Speaker 1: W I'm a check.
- 0:16Speaker 2: With the audults.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Adam. Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host,
- 0:36Speaker 1: Adam Todd Brown joining me once again special guest co
- 0:40Speaker 1: host Sliceberg.
- 0:41Speaker 2: How's it going man?
- 0:42Speaker 3: Pretty good? Adam, what's up?
- 0:44Speaker 2: Not much? What have you been up to since we
- 0:46Speaker 2: recorded last? Lots of lots of stuff.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Yeah, Between and between our last recording, I've done four
- 0:54Speaker 3: more albums. That looking pretty busy.
- 0:56Speaker 2: I feel like I'm a whole new person since we
- 0:58Speaker 2: recorded last.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Yeah, I literally just we stopped talking. I recorded four
- 1:03Speaker 3: albums and then it was just measically done.
- 1:06Speaker 2: And then now here we are two weeks later. Do
- 1:09Speaker 2: you get it? People at home?
- 1:10Speaker 1: We record these back to back, So that's that's what's
- 1:14Speaker 1: actually happening here.
- 1:16Speaker 3: We stay busy.
- 1:17Speaker 1: We are continuing through our countdown of the ten best
- 1:23Speaker 1: hip hop conspiracies. Again, just to make the criteria for
- 1:27Speaker 1: this list clear, these are just the ones I like
- 1:30Speaker 1: the best. We didn't vote. I didn't ask the fans
- 1:32Speaker 1: for their input. I didn't put up a poll. I
- 1:35Speaker 1: just went with my gut and this is the list
- 1:39Speaker 1: we came up with. I ended the last episode by
- 1:43Speaker 1: saying that the NICKI Minaj is actually jay z thing
- 1:47Speaker 1: might be my favorite conspiracy theory of these ten, but
- 1:51Speaker 1: this first one we're going to talk about might also be.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Let me just lay it on you people at home,
- 1:57Speaker 1: Shakira and Pitbull predicted the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight
- 2:03Speaker 1: MH three seventy. That's a pretty wild claim, right there.
- 2:06Speaker 3: Hey, can you when you say that when you go
- 2:09Speaker 3: through edding this episode, can you add the don dun du?
- 2:14Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 2:14Speaker 1: I feel like I should. One of the reasons I
- 2:19Speaker 1: like this one so much is I fucking love Shakira.
- 2:21Speaker 1: She is one of my fave musicians. I actually have
- 2:26Speaker 1: one of her albums coming today in the mail on vinyl.
- 2:31Speaker 1: She Wolf very good album, check it out. Everybody Nice.
- 2:35Speaker 1: But the song in question, it's a pit Bull song.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Shakira is just on the chorus. She's completely innocent in
- 2:42Speaker 1: all of this. Pit Bull is the one saying all
- 2:45Speaker 1: the inflammatory stuff. The song is called Get It Started.
- 2:48Speaker 1: And I don't know if I've ever listened to an
- 2:50Speaker 1: entire pit Bull song from beginning to end, so I
- 2:52Speaker 1: was not familiar with this.
- 2:54Speaker 2: What's your stance on Pitbull? Dali?
- 2:56Speaker 3: I think if pit Bull and Shakira teamed up and
- 3:01Speaker 3: put out an album, They will be the Latin worlds
- 3:04Speaker 3: watched the Throne. They would have that shit on Lock.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that. People do like pit Bull,
- 3:10Speaker 1: and he's mister Worldwide after all, so they like him globally.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Right. I'm not a fan, but if those two team up, man,
- 3:17Speaker 3: they would sell some units.
- 3:19Speaker 1: I've never experienced someone who probably lives a cooler life
- 3:25Speaker 1: than I could ever hope to, but who I also like,
- 3:29Speaker 1: look at and I'm like, you fucking nerd? Like pit
- 3:32Speaker 1: Bull seems like such a nerd. I don't know why.
- 3:35Speaker 1: He just he seems corny to me.
- 3:38Speaker 3: He is, but he owns it. He makes He makes
- 3:41Speaker 3: Award show music, that's true. Yeah, he makes the shit
- 3:47Speaker 3: you hate before the SP's come on. I mean that's
- 3:52Speaker 3: he got that on Locked. That's his lane. He owns it.
- 3:54Speaker 3: I guess. I'm not a fan, but he's doing something,
- 3:57Speaker 3: I guess.
- 3:58Speaker 1: So this song with Shakira, it's called Get It started,
- 4:01Speaker 1: came out way back in twenty twelve, so a couple
- 4:05Speaker 1: years prior to the disappearance of That Flight, which it's
- 4:09Speaker 1: been a long time ago. Now it's twenty fourteen, so
- 4:12Speaker 1: seven years going on seven years. In twenty twelve, they
- 4:17Speaker 1: put out this song includes lyrics like now it's off
- 4:20Speaker 1: to Malaysia. So there's that, But that in and of
- 4:24Speaker 1: itself is pretty meaningless. But then Pitbull adds stuff like
- 4:28Speaker 1: two passports, three cities, two countries in a day, which
- 4:31Speaker 1: sounds like a pit Bull line.
- 4:34Speaker 3: That's his life.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, mister worldwide again. The three passports line
- 4:41Speaker 1: has been interpreted to be a reference to the stolen
- 4:45Speaker 1: Austrian and Italian passports that were used by two Iranian
- 4:50Speaker 1: men who boarded MH three seventy and uh probably not.
- 4:55Speaker 2: I bet it's not. What would Pitbull's reasoning have been
- 4:59Speaker 2: to tell people this was gonna happen.
- 5:02Speaker 3: I got something for this. No, all right, that makes sense. Okay,
- 5:06Speaker 3: so if we check who wrote this song, right, if
- 5:10Speaker 3: it's someone other than Pitbull, because your songs usually have
- 5:12Speaker 3: what a couple of writers usually for a generic party song.
- 5:16Speaker 3: So I say, the other guy put that in there,
- 5:19Speaker 3: and the other guy works with I don't know, the Illuminati,
- 5:24Speaker 3: and maybe you know that their whole code is before
- 5:27Speaker 3: they do some functionhit. This usually has to be spoken
- 5:31Speaker 3: or said to cover all credibility like, hey, we told you.
- 5:34Speaker 3: If you didn't pick up on it, and pitpulls are lyrics,
- 5:37Speaker 3: then you just weren't looking hard enough. It's all far fetched.
- 5:40Speaker 3: But I don't know. Maybe he didn't write that line.
- 5:42Speaker 3: So what does this mean? Just right then? There? It's hot?
- 5:45Speaker 1: Okay, how many take take a guess at how many
- 5:49Speaker 1: songwriters around this song?
- 5:51Speaker 3: Eight?
- 5:52Speaker 2: It is actually eight? Yeah, holy shit, Armando Perez?
- 5:58Speaker 1: Who that is? Is that Pitbull? Is that his real name?
- 6:02Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 6:02Speaker 1: I think so, yes, that is Pitbull, Derell Babs, Chris Stevens,
- 6:09Speaker 1: Mark Kinchin, Sidney Sampson, DJ Buddha Shakira, and.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Someone who just calls themselves Developed.
- 6:16Speaker 3: It was Developed. That's the guy that was the one.
- 6:19Speaker 3: At first it wasn't sure, but when you said developed,
- 6:22Speaker 3: he developed the whole plan. Gotcha.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Develop doesn't have a Wikipedia page.
- 6:27Speaker 3: Very mistakeous.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Yeah, in some of those names. If there's samples on here,
- 6:32Speaker 1: there's people might oh true, get songwriting credits. But still,
- 6:37Speaker 1: who's Developed? That sounds like AI or something that's a company.
- 6:42Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe they did it. Maybe they wrote that part.
- 6:45Speaker 3: That's the the government offshoot.
- 6:47Speaker 2: What if they were trying to be a whistleblower.
- 6:49Speaker 1: We gotta let people know this is gonna happen, and
- 6:52Speaker 1: I know just how to do it.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Get Shakira and Pitbull in the room.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Yeah, and get Developed make sure he's he's gotta be there.
- 7:02Speaker 1: So there's also the three cities part of that line
- 7:06Speaker 1: that is claimed to represent the capital cities of Malaysia, China,
- 7:12Speaker 1: and Vietnam. And I was confused about that, so I
- 7:16Speaker 1: looked into that a little more. And one of the theories
- 7:19Speaker 1: about flight MH three P seventy, well, this part's not
- 7:22Speaker 1: a theory. It was a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
- 7:27Speaker 1: So there's your two capital cities. And one of the
- 7:30Speaker 1: theories is that it was shot down over Vietnam. So
- 7:35Speaker 1: that's the third capital in question, Hanoi, capital of Vietnam.
- 7:40Speaker 2: So I don't know.
- 7:42Speaker 1: They also say the two countries could be Malaysia and Vietnam. Yeah,
- 7:46Speaker 1: they could be Canada in the United States. Also, who knows.
- 7:49Speaker 1: I fucking love Shakira though, so I'm glad I got
- 7:51Speaker 1: to talk about her on this episode.
- 7:54Speaker 2: But this theory's nuts.
- 7:55Speaker 3: The only west was work is if you work back,
- 7:57Speaker 3: which you have to give me three other historic events.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Then we have to find out did other artists have
- 8:03Speaker 3: mention these events and songs have then measured the time
- 8:06Speaker 3: between the song lyric and it just take too much work,
- 8:09Speaker 3: but it's possible. I guess if he is every is
- 8:12Speaker 3: not aleven and like ten rap songs alone before it happened.
- 8:16Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 8:17Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated by musicians who seem like they predict
- 8:21Speaker 1: their own death in songs. Yeah, that's all, Like we
- 8:24Speaker 1: should do an episode about that. The Tupac one is
- 8:27Speaker 1: the best because he jumped on a Richie rich song
- 8:30Speaker 1: and said, I've been shot and murdered. I can tell
- 8:32Speaker 1: you how it happened word for word, And people are like,
- 8:35Speaker 1: why do people think Tupac's still alive?
- 8:38Speaker 3: Shit? That is I match you video alone, the intro.
- 8:42Speaker 3: I mean it's literally high, it goes down, yeah to
- 8:45Speaker 3: a degree. Yeah.
- 8:46Speaker 1: I didn't put it on the list, but Tupac is
- 8:48Speaker 1: alive is actually kind of a compelling theory, just because,
- 8:52Speaker 1: like witness protection is a thing, we know it exists.
- 8:54Speaker 1: I just the only problem with that is no one
- 8:57Speaker 1: really went to jail. I don't think Hupac like cooperated
- 9:01Speaker 1: in any investigations, So who knows Elvis definitely though.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Yeah, man might be his own episode to Tupac went Alone.
- 9:10Speaker 3: That's such a rabbit hole or shit with Tupac in Machavelli.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Now we're getting into some classics. Yeah, we're getting into
- 9:18Speaker 1: the top four. And this is an oldie, but goodie.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Jay Z and Beyonce are Illuminati. Also, Beyonce is secretly Italian.
- 9:28Speaker 1: I'm still on the fence as to whether the Illuminati
- 9:30Speaker 1: is even a real thing. I still think that's a
- 9:32Speaker 1: government psyop, just meant to take attention away from just
- 9:37Speaker 1: how shitty the real government is.
- 9:38Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't really need a fake.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Shadow government to fuck this country. We elect our government
- 9:44Speaker 1: that fucks this country, right every few years.
- 9:47Speaker 3: Yeah, we do. And here's the thing, though, you two things. One,
- 9:51Speaker 3: Jay Z and Beyonce are not i Lluminati because one,
- 9:55Speaker 3: there are no black people in the Illuminati.
- 9:57Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a surprise if there were.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Right, I don't care how powerful you are. Two, Michael
- 10:03Speaker 3: Jackson was the most powerful entertainer where he lived. So
- 10:07Speaker 3: if Dearliminati, what the fuck do you think he was?
- 10:09Speaker 3: What was he doing? Then? Like, you're not as powerful
- 10:12Speaker 3: as Mike, so he might got a little clout, but
- 10:14Speaker 3: they still have a boss. Jay Z Beyonce have bosses,
- 10:16Speaker 3: they answered to. Mike had bosses, he answered to.
- 10:19Speaker 1: I am convinced Michael Jackson was a spy and that's
- 10:23Speaker 1: why he got away with all the kid touching because man,
- 10:26Speaker 1: especially in the eighties and nineties, no one had access
- 10:30Speaker 1: to world leaders like Michael Jackson because.
- 10:32Speaker 3: He was just as true. He was everywhere.
- 10:34Speaker 1: He was viewed as this like benevolent force for world peace.
- 10:38Speaker 1: So he would like he could walk up to any
- 10:40Speaker 1: world leader and they'd be like, Michael jaff Fuck, yeah,
- 10:43Speaker 1: I want Michael Jackson in my country.
- 10:44Speaker 2: You kidding me.
- 10:45Speaker 3: There's no way he didn't work with the United States
- 10:47Speaker 3: in some way to represent like he was an ambassador
- 10:50Speaker 3: pretty much.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's no way our intelligence agencies didn't pull
- 10:53Speaker 1: him aside after those or before those trips probably.
- 10:57Speaker 2: And be like, hey, write down what you see, tell
- 10:59Speaker 2: us when you get back.
- 11:01Speaker 3: Hell yeah, there's no doubt they did.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Maybe he was out there assassinating people. How fucking cool
- 11:05Speaker 1: would that be? Every kind of dope just going Munich
- 11:09Speaker 1: every fucking country goes to. They give him a list
- 11:12Speaker 1: of people he's got to hunt down before his show.
- 11:14Speaker 3: That means Moonwalker's based on the true story. Then he
- 11:17Speaker 3: probably his power. He makes you dance to death. He
- 11:20Speaker 3: go out there killing fucking soldiers and making them dance
- 11:22Speaker 3: and they collapse.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Michael jack Sassin, that's the name of that show.
- 11:28Speaker 3: Oh, he was the basis of Action Jackson. It's based
- 11:30Speaker 3: on Michael Jackson's life when he's not singing.
- 11:32Speaker 2: There it is. That makes more sense.
- 11:35Speaker 3: That's a Netflix series.
- 11:37Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the whole jay Z Illuminati thing is
- 11:40Speaker 1: just because of that hand symbol that is a triangle.
- 11:43Speaker 1: But he says diamond and people just take that and
- 11:47Speaker 1: they're like, that man's in the Illuminati for sure.
- 11:50Speaker 3: But you got from Diamond Dallas Page who did it first?
- 11:54Speaker 1: Well, Diamond Dallas Page was definitely in the Illuminati. I
- 11:57Speaker 1: don't think there's any any dispute question. Probably was the
- 12:01Speaker 1: head at some point. But yeah, it seems like it's
- 12:06Speaker 1: just it's that and also there's Rich and there's jay
- 12:10Speaker 1: Z and Beyonce Rich like jay Z. I think what
- 12:14Speaker 1: became recently became the first billionaire rapper.
- 12:17Speaker 3: Was that dra first. Was it technically Drey's technically first
- 12:21Speaker 3: with beats?
- 12:22Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, just being loaded man.
- 12:27Speaker 3: Yeah. Now again that goes back to Busy Bones saying, like,
- 12:30Speaker 3: even out the money, jay Z has sprinkling, been sprinkling
- 12:34Speaker 3: his music and imagery with Devil's Ship for a while now,
- 12:36Speaker 3: so you can't really blame fans for running with that.
- 12:39Speaker 3: He says, the ship all the time. He mentions Masonic shit,
- 12:42Speaker 3: He mentions freemates like he's if he's not, he's definitely
- 12:45Speaker 3: lean into it because that's yourselves. So he leads into it.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's the thing, he could be a Freemason.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure all of them are to a degree.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Yeah, people treat the idea that someone might be a
- 12:55Speaker 1: Freemason as I think freemasonry in general is treated weird.
- 12:59Speaker 1: If like, I wouldn't mind doing like a series on freemasonry.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Because there's obviously.
- 13:05Speaker 1: The conspiracy theory that Freemasons are like secretly trying to
- 13:09Speaker 1: control the world and influence politics, and in this country,
- 13:14Speaker 1: we know Freemasons exists. Chat Wild is a Freemason.
- 13:18Speaker 3: For example, I actually write and I remember you said that,
- 13:21Speaker 3: and actually, if you do do that, I like to
- 13:23Speaker 3: say something about that because I actually went through the
- 13:27Speaker 3: process of becoming to Freemason. The last thing I didn't
- 13:30Speaker 3: do is sign the paperwork. I guess I say that
- 13:33Speaker 3: they have them come to my house while I stay
- 13:35Speaker 3: at the time and talk to every member of the
- 13:37Speaker 3: people my family, and I wasn't particularly cool with that
- 13:40Speaker 3: at the time, so I kind of game a little
- 13:42Speaker 3: soft pass. Yeah, but went to the whole the whole
- 13:45Speaker 3: rigma road of going to the temples, going through what
- 13:48Speaker 3: I got to do and what they do and all
- 13:50Speaker 3: that stuff. But it's it is wild. It's very secretive,
- 13:53Speaker 3: and they're very strict on not runny in mouth. Yeah,
- 13:57Speaker 3: they made that clear, made that very clear.
- 14:00Speaker 1: That's that's why people get so freaked out when they
- 14:03Speaker 1: find out, like us presidents are Freemasons, because Freemasonry it
- 14:08Speaker 1: requires this oath that is like listen, this is this
- 14:11Speaker 1: is what you care about is Freemasonry. Everything else is
- 14:14Speaker 1: after that, And people are like, well, how can you
- 14:16Speaker 1: be the president?
- 14:17Speaker 3: And also, you know, no one likes secrets. People are
- 14:20Speaker 3: scared of secrets. Metawa group. No one likes secrets. They
- 14:23Speaker 3: wants to know everything because a secret is something nefarious.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Who knows, Like, there's obviously a chance that jay Z
- 14:30Speaker 1: could be a freemason, because we know freemasonry is a
- 14:32Speaker 1: real thing.
- 14:33Speaker 3: I mean comes with success. I think any level of success.
- 14:36Speaker 3: I mean you're definitely going to be offered or approached.
- 14:38Speaker 3: I mean it's just that's life, matter what position you're in.
- 14:41Speaker 3: If at the top, someone's talking, someone's talking to you.
- 14:43Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be like if someone walked up to you
- 14:45Speaker 1: with an application for an American Express plumb card, you'd
- 14:48Speaker 1: be like, oh right, me, okay, yes, I didn't know
- 14:53Speaker 1: i'd attain such heights.
- 14:55Speaker 2: Same thing exactly, someone walks up.
- 14:57Speaker 1: And they're like, you want to be in the Illuminati,
- 15:00Speaker 1: wanna be fast tracked into freemasonry?
- 15:02Speaker 3: Right?
- 15:02Speaker 1: Like?
- 15:02Speaker 3: Hell? Yeah? Like who who one of us would not
- 15:06Speaker 3: take the opportunity to advance in life such quickly? Yeah?
- 15:09Speaker 2: Thirty third degree? Oh my yes, please?
- 15:13Speaker 3: I have to read, have to read, what memorize? What? Sure?
- 15:16Speaker 3: I get? How much?
- 15:18Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 15:18Speaker 1: I think it's just that he's rich and he he does,
- 15:22Speaker 1: you know, talk about But again, a lot of people
- 15:25Speaker 1: use imagery like that because the other thing about Illuminati
- 15:29Speaker 1: imagery is it's all like the sun or an eye
- 15:33Speaker 1: or a triangle, and it's like you see that in
- 15:37Speaker 1: a lot of ship there's this one conspiracy theory guy
- 15:41Speaker 1: out there on the internet named Isaac Weisshaalt.
- 15:43Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy.
- 15:44Speaker 1: He has a whole bunch of stuff about Illuminati symbols
- 15:47Speaker 1: in Stanley Kubrick movies, and I hate it so much.
- 15:52Speaker 1: For one thing, he's written like two books about it,
- 15:54Speaker 1: Like he's milking his audience for money.
- 15:57Speaker 2: Very clearly.
- 15:58Speaker 3: He read I read of his stuff. Yeah he does. Yeah,
- 16:00Speaker 3: he's he's selling a lot. He's trying to sell a
- 16:02Speaker 3: lot of UH supports.
- 16:04Speaker 1: He's not being honest because you can't talk about the
- 16:06Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick Illuminati theory without mentioning that that theory started
- 16:11Speaker 1: in a comedy article on the internet.
- 16:14Speaker 2: In like nineteen ninety five.
- 16:16Speaker 1: So up to that point, no one had even suggested
- 16:19Speaker 1: such a crazy thing. And it is a very crazy thing,
- 16:23Speaker 1: Like Stanley Kubrick movies don't have they have again, they
- 16:26Speaker 1: have symbols that are used by the Illuminati, or they're
- 16:30Speaker 1: purported to be used by the Illuminati, but I don't know.
- 16:34Speaker 1: They're used by a lot of a lot of groups.
- 16:37Speaker 1: And yeah, Beyonce is super fucking rich too. She had
- 16:39Speaker 1: that line in a song where she said, of course,
- 16:42Speaker 1: shit goes down when there's a billion dollars on the elevator.
- 16:45Speaker 1: That's a reference to the time she was on the
- 16:48Speaker 1: elevator with jay Z and Solange and Solange was all
- 16:51Speaker 1: mad at jay Z and yelling at him, and uh yeah,
- 16:56Speaker 1: a billion dollars on the elevator. Six hundred and fifty
- 16:58Speaker 1: of it belonged to Salan.
- 17:00Speaker 3: The other that's for the rest of them.
- 17:02Speaker 2: That's funny along to Salon, which.
- 17:09Speaker 3: When it comes down to pretty much, look, anyone at
- 17:12Speaker 3: the top of their game is part of a secret group.
- 17:16Speaker 3: That's just like all professions in the top you're part
- 17:19Speaker 3: of some kind of small group of special people. Period.
- 17:22Speaker 3: So again I doubt again any black people are part
- 17:26Speaker 3: of the official four or five white guys who run
- 17:30Speaker 3: the world. But they may be puppies of them. They're
- 17:33Speaker 3: just they're just entertainers. They have no power. It's just
- 17:36Speaker 3: all their image. They have bosses, they run nothing people.
- 17:40Speaker 1: What if that what if that Beyonce song girls, Like
- 17:44Speaker 1: what if the chorus was like, who runs the world?
- 17:47Speaker 2: Eight white dudes in a room above the White House.
- 17:52Speaker 3: It doesn't prop to say, it doesn't hit the saying,
- 17:53Speaker 3: it doesn't slap.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Yeah, girls, meaning these eight.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Old white men on top of the exactly, that's what
- 18:01Speaker 1: they call their group. It's an evil acronym that means
- 18:06Speaker 1: government in real life.
- 18:10Speaker 3: Sucks GRLS runs the world.
- 18:13Speaker 2: We cracked it. We cracked the case.
- 18:16Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, a guy running for office in Illinois
- 18:19Speaker 1: named Bill Fowell made headlines when he posted a thread
- 18:22Speaker 1: on Twitter about how Beyonce and jay Z both support
- 18:25Speaker 1: the Illuminati and how her Super Bowl performance included a
- 18:29Speaker 1: bunch of Illuminati symbols. But all of his evidence was
- 18:32Speaker 1: just YouTube videos that had been out before. But what
- 18:36Speaker 1: was weird about this theory kind of re emerging in
- 18:39Speaker 1: twenty eighteen is where it eventually went.
- 18:43Speaker 2: This time.
- 18:44Speaker 1: Instead of ending at jay Z and Beyonce are in
- 18:47Speaker 1: the Illuminati, it went jay Z and Beyonce are in
- 18:50Speaker 1: the Illuminati. Also, Beyonce is not black. She is an
- 18:53Speaker 1: Italian woman, which this is very weird, Like it's not
- 18:58Speaker 1: weird in oh, maybe this is true. It's just weird
- 19:01Speaker 1: that this even happened.
- 19:03Speaker 3: I like that the second time he mentioned that they
- 19:05Speaker 3: were Illuminati, he tecked on this other little story detail,
- 19:11Speaker 3: is right, jay Z Beyonce Luminati. Also Beyonce might be Italian.
- 19:16Speaker 3: It's so random, like is that it's like wondy is
- 19:19Speaker 3: it's true?
- 19:19Speaker 1: And this rumor was started by an Instagram user named
- 19:25Speaker 1: jj W Webb who just left a comment on someone's post,
- 19:29Speaker 1: and this is what it said. You know, Beyonce isn't
- 19:32Speaker 1: black but a dark Italian. She fakes being black because
- 19:36Speaker 1: she was told by her producers, go black and you
- 19:38Speaker 1: will have greater audience appeal. I'm gonna stop you right there.
- 19:42Speaker 1: That is contrary to everything we've ever heard about the
- 19:46Speaker 1: music industry.
- 19:47Speaker 3: It's not destroyed, be the opposite. That's backwards.
- 19:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would be more. Do you think
- 19:52Speaker 1: you could pass for Italian? Because then then we're on
- 19:55Speaker 1: to something that going to be a plus. Anyway, here's
- 19:58Speaker 1: here's how the rest of the the quote goes. Her
- 20:01Speaker 1: real name is Anne Marie Lastrassi. You will soon find
- 20:05Speaker 1: out what I say is true. She Beyonce duped a
- 20:09Speaker 1: lot of people. How embarrassed are you now? I can
- 20:12Speaker 1: answer that I'm not embarrassed at all. Like, even if
- 20:15Speaker 1: this turned out to be true, I didn't I didn't
- 20:18Speaker 1: plan it. The songs still slap even if she's Italian
- 20:22Speaker 1: and not black. What's really happening here is they're tying
- 20:26Speaker 1: this to the Black Lives Matter movement and saying, well,
- 20:29Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter is obviously fake. This person who pushes
- 20:32Speaker 1: it so much as Italian.
- 20:33Speaker 3: Here's a thing, wouldn't a real Beyonce have a more
- 20:37Speaker 3: real Italian name? Like I don't know, like Beyonce, Like,
- 20:41Speaker 3: isn't her isn't her name was fiance? I don't know
- 20:44Speaker 3: if I should have voice, but wouldn't that be kind
- 20:46Speaker 3: of more.
- 20:47Speaker 2: That's a spicey Beyonce, Right, It just.
- 20:50Speaker 3: You kind of go with that name that was your
- 20:52Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, it just seems like that's weird.
- 20:54Speaker 2: No, And here's the thing.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Anne Marie Lestrassi was a real person, is a real person,
- 21:00Speaker 1: and she was interviewed by the Route. And my favorite
- 21:04Speaker 1: thing about the interview is how it just starts with
- 21:07Speaker 1: some casual Italian racism.
- 21:09Speaker 3: I guess that bothered me. What was that about necessary?
- 21:13Speaker 1: And it's if you read the rest of the interview,
- 21:15Speaker 1: it seems like she was legitimately bothered by it because
- 21:18Speaker 1: she keeps saying like, oh, I'll think about it while
- 21:19Speaker 1: my sauce simmers, and like they're playing it like it's
- 21:23Speaker 1: like it's them being funny back and forth. But I
- 21:26Speaker 1: feel like she was like, yeah, I fucking bathe an
- 21:29Speaker 1: olive oil, your piece of shit?
- 21:30Speaker 2: Can we get this over with?
- 21:32Speaker 3: Interview?
- 21:33Speaker 1: Here's how the interview starts. Thank you for taking the
- 21:36Speaker 1: time to speak with us today. I'm sure you'd rather
- 21:39Speaker 1: be slicing garlic clothes into liquid thin pieces for a
- 21:42Speaker 1: squad of goodfellas rather than talking about being mistaken for Beyonce.
- 21:46Speaker 3: Can I say the interview should stop right there, like Okay,
- 21:48Speaker 3: I'm out of here, Like what the fuck is this? Yeah?
- 21:52Speaker 2: That is such a weird, weird way to start an interview.
- 21:55Speaker 3: I was like someone asking me about I'm sorry to
- 21:58Speaker 3: bother you from frying your chickens. Can you talk to me?
- 22:01Speaker 3: That's bad?
- 22:02Speaker 1: This was her response to that, ha ha, very funny.
- 22:05Speaker 1: In reality, I've yelled he good more than I've ever
- 22:08Speaker 1: yelled that's a spice, see a meatball. Despite those stereotypes,
- 22:13Speaker 1: and the rest of the interview is just her saying
- 22:16Speaker 1: I'm not Beyonce, I wish I was Beyonce. Beyonce is amazing,
- 22:20Speaker 1: and also uh, just peppering it all with references to
- 22:24Speaker 1: Italian food that seem like they are not being peppered
- 22:28Speaker 1: in in a happy way.
- 22:29Speaker 3: I feel her first response she tried to play ball
- 22:33Speaker 3: in a way like I'll play with you this one time,
- 22:36Speaker 3: but let's move on from that. Yeah, But in fact,
- 22:39Speaker 3: the guy just kept interview, just kept picking. It's real
- 22:43Speaker 3: condescending the utmost degree, like this was a point.
- 22:48Speaker 1: But I mean, good on them for tracking her down
- 22:51Speaker 1: and doing the interview at least to.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Show that she's not Beyonce.
- 22:56Speaker 1: But also, how do we know that did you interview
- 22:59Speaker 1: Beyonce in this same room the root?
- 23:01Speaker 2: Did you? Did you hit her with the stereotypes leading
- 23:03Speaker 2: into the questions? If not, how do you know who
- 23:06Speaker 2: you're talking to.
- 23:07Speaker 3: The Yeah, see that's the problem. They're not as credible
- 23:09Speaker 3: as Yahoo Sports.
- 23:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Oh, I even forgot to mention the source for that
- 23:17Speaker 1: first example, the Shakira and Pitbull thing was from Yahoo Malaysia.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Yahoo is the real mister worldwide.
- 23:24Speaker 3: If you said Yahoo Malaysia Sports out of lost it.
- 23:28Speaker 1: It's all fucking cricket, whatever, soccer, whatever people play in Malaysia.
- 23:35Speaker 2: I'm assuming those two things.
- 23:38Speaker 1: So yeah, Anne, Marie Lestrassi, it's very cute, like it's
- 23:41Speaker 1: got to be a little flattering that people look at
- 23:44Speaker 1: you and go, mmm, you're actually Beyonce.
- 23:46Speaker 2: But she doesn't look that much like Beyonce.
- 23:50Speaker 1: They have like a similar skin tone and similar hair color,
- 23:54Speaker 1: but beyond that, not really.
- 23:56Speaker 3: It's just like an olive like an olive skin the
- 23:59Speaker 3: Italian woman.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's also Beyonce.
- 24:02Speaker 3: Right, a light skinned black woman.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:07Speaker 1: So let's get off into another theory. Now we're really
- 24:12Speaker 1: really getting into the big stuff. There's all sorts of
- 24:17Speaker 1: directions we could have gone with this next one who
- 24:21Speaker 1: killed Notaori's big who killed Tupac? But I want to
- 24:25Speaker 1: focus on one specific theory, which is that Sean P.
- 24:29Speaker 1: Diddy Combs is the one who sets Tupac up to
- 24:33Speaker 1: be killed. And I hate this theory with all my
- 24:37Speaker 1: heart and soul because of how it came about. This
- 24:40Speaker 1: theory happened because at one point, Valletta Wallace filed a
- 24:46Speaker 1: wrongful death civil suit against the LAPD. She was seeking
- 24:50Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars from the LAPD and to fight
- 24:55Speaker 1: the lawsuit, the LAPD reopened the case and handed it
- 25:00Speaker 1: to this detective named Greg Carting. For one thing, I'm
- 25:03Speaker 1: sure they definitely did not say, here go investigate this
- 25:06Speaker 1: in a way that exonerates us.
- 25:08Speaker 2: Please.
- 25:08Speaker 1: They just said, hey, find what you can, I'm sure,
- 25:11Speaker 1: And he comes back with a theory that Sean Combs
- 25:16Speaker 1: put a one million dollar hit out on Tupac and
- 25:19Speaker 1: Suge Knight both and hired a crip named Dwayne Keithy D.
- 25:24Speaker 1: Davis to carry out the murders. And he claims Tupac
- 25:29Speaker 1: was actually killed by Orlando Anderson because of they pulled
- 25:33Speaker 1: up on the wrong side of the car or something.
- 25:35Speaker 1: That's the guy Tupac's entourage beat down in the lobby
- 25:39Speaker 1: of the MGM Grand shortly before he died. And so
- 25:42Speaker 1: after all that happened, Suge Knight put out a hit
- 25:44Speaker 1: on Notorius Big and that's why he died. And shortly
- 25:47Speaker 1: after Carden came to these conclusions. And despite all of
- 25:51Speaker 1: these shocking revelations, the LAPD just immediately stopped the investigation
- 25:56Speaker 1: and dropped the case because now they had been exonerated
- 26:00Speaker 1: by an investigation, and that kind of derailed Valletta Wallace's
- 26:05Speaker 1: civil suit and now there won't even be financial justice
- 26:10Speaker 1: for her when it comes to the death of her son.
- 26:13Speaker 1: One of the things that also makes me suspicious there
- 26:16Speaker 1: were so many attempts to make the movie that eventually
- 26:19Speaker 1: was City of Lies, which is about the other version
- 26:22Speaker 1: of this theory, which is that the LAPD was very
- 26:25Speaker 1: involved in the death of Notorious Big, But all of
- 26:28Speaker 1: the attempts to make that movie failed. But this theory,
- 26:32Speaker 1: the Greg Carting theory, was made into a USA Network
- 26:36Speaker 1: TV series before any version of the other story came out. Then,
- 26:42Speaker 1: just like quietly, this year, Stars added City of Lies
- 26:46Speaker 1: to their lineup, so you can go see City of
- 26:49Speaker 1: Lies now, and it presents the alternative theory to what
- 26:53Speaker 1: happened to Notorious Big, and man, it's pretty compelling. It's
- 26:57Speaker 1: a very convincing theory. It's also a theory that was
- 27:00Speaker 1: it forth by a former LAPD detective.
- 27:02Speaker 3: This is two words, how convenient.
- 27:06Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what I hate about it.
- 27:08Speaker 1: No one has questioned that part that, oh, you finally,
- 27:11Speaker 1: like you haven't come up with this theory at any
- 27:15Speaker 1: other point after all these years, because we're talking like
- 27:18Speaker 1: ten years after he died, You've had ten years to
- 27:21Speaker 1: look into this, and now you're just conveniently coming up
- 27:24Speaker 1: with this theory that exonerates the LAPD entirely.
- 27:28Speaker 3: It feels like they just came up with it just
- 27:30Speaker 3: to just to get their name out from just to
- 27:32Speaker 3: get them from involved in a situation. They just kind of, well,
- 27:36Speaker 3: here's a theory. Yeah, this means we had nothing to
- 27:39Speaker 3: do with it. And you know what, both camps just
- 27:41Speaker 3: kind of got rid of each other. It's over case
- 27:44Speaker 3: close openings that case.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Yeah, And they even in the USA series they like
- 27:50Speaker 1: bring up the other theory a little bit and they
- 27:54Speaker 1: just focus on one very small part and try to
- 27:57Speaker 1: like really play it down as not being as important
- 28:01Speaker 1: as people make it out to be, which is that one.
- 28:05Speaker 2: Of the LAPD cops who was.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Accused of being involved in this, they raided his home
- 28:11Speaker 1: and in his garage one he had a car that
- 28:15Speaker 1: looked identical to the car that the shooters in the
- 28:19Speaker 1: notorious Big Case were in. It was a dark green
- 28:22Speaker 1: Chevy and Palla. He also had a bunch of walkie talkies,
- 28:26Speaker 1: which they think that's how the killers communicated was via
- 28:30Speaker 1: walkie talkie. And he had a shrine to Tupac in
- 28:34Speaker 1: his garage and all of that is treated as completely
- 28:38Speaker 1: inconsequential in the USA series, And like if you look
- 28:44Speaker 1: into there's like books, if you don't want to watch
- 28:46Speaker 1: City Elies because you like hate Johnny Depp or whatever.
- 28:51Speaker 1: There's books about the theory. There's a lot out there.
- 28:54Speaker 1: It's Russell Poole's theory. Who was another LAPD detective.
- 28:59Speaker 3: That's the first theory.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the.
- 29:01Speaker 1: One that landed on the theory that Notorious Big was
- 29:04Speaker 1: killed by LAPD officers who were also doing security work
- 29:09Speaker 1: for death row records and who were also members of
- 29:12Speaker 1: the Bloods themselves, and all of that shit was true.
- 29:17Speaker 1: Like it's that's not even a question. There were a
- 29:19Speaker 1: bunch of investigations they did determine that this group of
- 29:23Speaker 1: cops were gang members. They were working for death row records,
- 29:27Speaker 1: they were stealing cocaine from evidence rooms and reselling it.
- 29:33Speaker 1: If you look into the Rampart scandal, that's what it
- 29:35Speaker 1: all centers around, is the department that those cops worked for.
- 29:40Speaker 1: So like, of course they fucking killed Notorious Big.
- 29:44Speaker 2: They're cops. Who else is going to get away with it?
- 29:47Speaker 1: Like especially like that was that was even crazier than
- 29:50Speaker 1: I don't know, killing Tupac on the Vegas Strip was
- 29:52Speaker 1: pretty bold, like from an eyewitness standpoint, like there were
- 29:57Speaker 1: there were a lot of people around.
- 29:58Speaker 3: Right, But from a Tupac histories, from his record standpoint,
- 30:03Speaker 3: it makes more sense. Yeah, you will figure he has
- 30:05Speaker 3: more enemies than Biggie was. You're like, oh, well, of
- 30:08Speaker 3: course Tupac was shot. Yeah, but Biggie was more like fuck,
- 30:11Speaker 3: Biggy was shot.
- 30:12Speaker 1: I didn't expect that when it happened, Like I he
- 30:15Speaker 1: kind of felt like Tupac, like he had been shot
- 30:18Speaker 1: a bunch of times before that. It was pretty clear
- 30:21Speaker 1: someone was after Tupac and they got him. But notorious
- 30:24Speaker 1: Big I had thought at best he was gonna die
- 30:27Speaker 1: of a heart attack at like twenty nine. I mean,
- 30:29Speaker 1: he probably would have lived longer than that. Yeah, you
- 30:32Speaker 1: think he would have lost weight.
- 30:33Speaker 3: Yes, I think, but in the early two thousands he
- 30:36Speaker 3: probably would have gotten to the fat of fat rappers
- 30:39Speaker 3: trying to slim down for the new the millennium. Yeah,
- 30:42Speaker 3: being big is no good no more.
- 30:44Speaker 2: I mean, after Big Pun died, that had to send
- 30:46Speaker 2: shockwaves through the fat rapper industry.
- 30:49Speaker 3: You're right. Had he had lived through Big Pun's death,
- 30:52Speaker 3: then he would have lost slot of weight.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you ever see pictures of Big Pun before
- 30:55Speaker 2: he gained all that weight?
- 30:56Speaker 3: He was? Yeah, cold liked Yeah, he was. Yeah, he
- 31:00Speaker 3: looked like.
- 31:00Speaker 1: A fucking NFL lineman, but one who is just like
- 31:04Speaker 1: all muscle instead of fat, like it was crazy person
- 31:08Speaker 1: all right, So yeah, I don't think Diddy. I just
- 31:13Speaker 1: don't see that for him, Like I've always taken like
- 31:18Speaker 1: Sean Combs is a great business man, but in terms
- 31:21Speaker 1: of an entertainer, he's one of those people who can
- 31:24Speaker 1: do everything, just he doesn't do any of it great.
- 31:27Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't ride his own rhymes, but he
- 31:30Speaker 1: can deliver them adequately. Uh, he can dance. I think
- 31:34Speaker 1: he dancing might be the thing he's best.
- 31:37Speaker 3: At, Like that's the only thing he does.
- 31:39Speaker 1: Yeah, he's as a producer, he's good at picking songs
- 31:43Speaker 1: to just play in their entirety while people rap over them.
- 31:47Speaker 3: But also yeah, he he doesn't make the beats himself,
- 31:50Speaker 3: like he his a production team, but he has himself.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was that way like really early on.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Like it's not like he was like doctor Dre who
- 31:59Speaker 1: produced all of his own shit for years and then
- 32:02Speaker 1: then eventually got a production team, like right, I think
- 32:06Speaker 1: Puff Daddy had one pretty much immediately.
- 32:08Speaker 3: It always And I just.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Don't see him being the kind of guy who would
- 32:13Speaker 1: be criminal minded enough to like put a hit out
- 32:16Speaker 1: on someone. I mean, yeah, he beat Steve Stout with
- 32:19Speaker 1: a champagne bottle, remember that.
- 32:21Speaker 3: Yeah, that was crazy and I.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Think it was because they had him nailed to a
- 32:27Speaker 1: cross in the Knas video for Hate Me.
- 32:30Speaker 2: Now.
- 32:30Speaker 1: Yeah, he thought it was disrespectful to Jesus, so he
- 32:34Speaker 1: went and did the Christian thing and beat Steve Stout
- 32:36Speaker 1: with a champagne bottle.
- 32:38Speaker 2: And broke his arm.
- 32:39Speaker 3: Won it.
- 32:40Speaker 1: Oh yeah, imagine trying to live that down if you're
- 32:43Speaker 1: Steve Stout. Of all the people to get beat by,
- 32:46Speaker 1: It's like when Axel Rose got punched by Tommy Hillfigure,
- 32:49Speaker 1: which is still one shit, still one of the funniest
- 32:52Speaker 1: stories I've ever heard.
- 32:53Speaker 2: In my life.
- 32:56Speaker 3: Was it because he thought the rumor that he'll figure
- 32:58Speaker 3: it was associated with the Kate.
- 33:03Speaker 2: No, but there were those rumors.
- 33:05Speaker 1: He was like talking shit to Tommy Hill Figure's girlfriend
- 33:09Speaker 1: and Tommy Hill Figure was like telling you, dude, stop,
- 33:12Speaker 1: you're gonna get punched by Tommy Hill Figure if you don't.
- 33:15Speaker 1: And sure enough, Axl Rose got punched by Tommy Hill Figure.
- 33:19Speaker 2: And I don't think he punched him back, which is
- 33:21Speaker 2: because it would be one thing.
- 33:22Speaker 1: If the story was man Axl Rose got punched by
- 33:25Speaker 1: Tommy Hill figure and then Axel Rose broke Tommy Hill
- 33:29Speaker 1: figures back over a barroom table, that would be one thing.
- 33:32Speaker 1: But it's nope, just right, Axl Rose got punched and
- 33:34Speaker 1: then probably just ran out of the room embarrassed.
- 33:37Speaker 3: Geez, you can't get punched by Tommy Hill figure.
- 33:41Speaker 2: Not not a good look.
- 33:43Speaker 3: That is not rock and roll.
- 33:47Speaker 1: So let's talk about another. There's another big one. Sugar
- 33:51Speaker 1: Knight killed easy E with an aid's needle. This all
- 33:56Speaker 1: comes down to that Jimmy Kimmel interview that sug Knight gave.
- 33:59Speaker 1: But just to give people some background if you're not
- 34:01Speaker 1: super familiar with the death of easy E. On March seventeenth,
- 34:05Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, he announced to the world that he
- 34:08Speaker 1: had AIDS. March twenty sixth, he was dead, So nine
- 34:11Speaker 1: days later, it was about a month after he initially
- 34:14Speaker 1: found out that he had AIDS, full blown AIDS, so
- 34:18Speaker 1: he died pretty quick, and that's one of the reasons
- 34:23Speaker 1: some people around him believe he might have been murdered.
- 34:26Speaker 1: That in the fact that he showed no signs or
- 34:29Speaker 1: symptoms like until right up before he died, which is
- 34:33Speaker 1: weird for someone with full blown AIDS.
- 34:35Speaker 3: Now, what's the question here? Is a question that should
- 34:39Speaker 3: Night killed easy or is that easy E with somehow
- 34:44Speaker 3: that his death it self is conspiracy.
- 34:47Speaker 2: I think it's both.
- 34:48Speaker 1: There's definitely a conspiracy or a belief among people who
- 34:53Speaker 1: were kind of close to him that something happened, like
- 34:57Speaker 1: he didn't just naturally die of aides, he was targeted
- 35:01Speaker 1: by someone and killed. Let me read this long ass quote.
- 35:05Speaker 1: It's from a rapper named BG Knockout, who is featured
- 35:11Speaker 1: on like the Easy E solo albums that came out
- 35:14Speaker 1: after he left NWA, which are just like universally fucking terrible.
- 35:18Speaker 3: When he's disin Dre. That was a team when he
- 35:20Speaker 3: was disin Dre. He was hanging with them.
- 35:21Speaker 1: Yeah, the song real motherfucking G's is about yeah, doctor
- 35:26Speaker 1: Dre and BG Knockout was one of the other rappers
- 35:29Speaker 1: on that, And this is a quote from him. It's
- 35:32Speaker 1: it's kind of long, so bear with me, but this
- 35:34Speaker 1: basically runs down the theory. I believe in my heart
- 35:38Speaker 1: somebody did something to Eric, whether it was Jerry, whether
- 35:42Speaker 1: it was Tamika. I have yet to really know the
- 35:44Speaker 1: truth about it, but for a person to have full
- 35:47Speaker 1: blown AIDS that quickly is suspicious. My little brother, his father,
- 35:51Speaker 1: died from full blown AIDS from sharing a needle because
- 35:54Speaker 1: he was an addict. Now, I saw this man go
- 35:56Speaker 1: through these stages, from HIV to full blown AIDS. And
- 36:00Speaker 1: when you get a cold, any little thing like that,
- 36:03Speaker 1: your whole immune system shuts down, so you have to
- 36:06Speaker 1: go into the hospital just to recover. Now, to be
- 36:08Speaker 1: around Eric for the last three years of his life,
- 36:11Speaker 1: and he never had an episode like this.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Never ever.
- 36:15Speaker 1: Something is strange, something is real odd, and then you're
- 36:18Speaker 1: gonna come out and tell me. When the man goes
- 36:20Speaker 1: in there for bronchitis, he comes out and you tell me,
- 36:23Speaker 1: this man had full blown AIDS. And we've been to
- 36:27Speaker 1: New York, we've been to Chicago in below zero weather.
- 36:31Speaker 1: He never got sick. He never had an episode like
- 36:34Speaker 1: come on, bra, who are you kidding?
- 36:37Speaker 2: So that's one part.
- 36:37Speaker 1: Of it is that no matter who did it, someone
- 36:41Speaker 1: actually killed Easy as opposed to him dying of AIDS naturally.
- 36:46Speaker 3: I always believe that Easy, that something did happen with
- 36:50Speaker 3: but I was always under to understand that did it
- 36:51Speaker 3: happen when he went to the White House.
- 36:53Speaker 2: Oh, maybe he shouldn't have had dinner with the president.
- 36:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember a lot of his people were talking
- 36:58Speaker 3: about that. They told him to not to turn it
- 37:02Speaker 3: down invitation, but he was so proud he was invited.
- 37:04Speaker 3: He went, I've always suspected that when he went to
- 37:08Speaker 3: that trip something went down in that White House.
- 37:11Speaker 2: That could be too.
- 37:12Speaker 1: I mean, if our next theory is correct, I could
- 37:16Speaker 1: see the government having a vested interest in keeping death
- 37:19Speaker 1: row records financially solvent by killing easy.
- 37:23Speaker 3: But uh, he might have some aide soup.
- 37:25Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're that's a little foreshadowing. We'll get to
- 37:28Speaker 1: that one the other. The other part of this theory, though,
- 37:32Speaker 1: is that Suge Knight is the one who killed him
- 37:35Speaker 1: with an aid's needle. And we all know the genesis
- 37:39Speaker 1: of this by now. Suge Knight went on an episode
- 37:42Speaker 1: of Jimmy Kimmel, seemed like he was just there to
- 37:45Speaker 1: talk about killing people, and uh he said this when
- 37:51Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel asked if Suge Knight was going to shoot him,
- 37:54Speaker 1: which was very funny, he said, Uh, see, technology is
- 37:58Speaker 1: so high, so if you shoot some by you go
- 38:00Speaker 1: to jail forever. You don't want to go to jail forever.
- 38:03Speaker 1: They have a new thing out. They have the stuff
- 38:05Speaker 1: they call they get blood from somebody with aids and
- 38:08Speaker 1: they shoot you with it. That's a slow death, the
- 38:10Speaker 1: easy thing, you know what I mean? For one thing
- 38:13Speaker 1: wasn't a slow death. So Sugar Knight got that part wrong.
- 38:15Speaker 1: He died pretty quick. But I don't know. On the
- 38:19Speaker 1: one hand, it's like, goddamn, sug that is bold, but
- 38:23Speaker 1: also it's almost too bold, like I don't know if
- 38:27Speaker 1: you'd go on TV and be like easy, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 38:31Speaker 2: I stuck him with an aid's needle.
- 38:34Speaker 1: We were both at you know, the Chili's there in Torrents,
- 38:38Speaker 1: and I just happened to see him in line. I
- 38:41Speaker 1: had the aid's needle on me and boop. I don't
- 38:43Speaker 1: think Sugar Knight would admit to that.
- 38:45Speaker 3: Now, you say he was so Johny Guazamo was also there.
- 38:50Speaker 3: He was promoting a movie, and like you said, Sugar
- 38:53Speaker 3: was there promoting his latest murder. Yeah, I don't think
- 38:59Speaker 3: should did it, but I think he was in a
- 39:01Speaker 3: way dry snitching on the possibility of what happened. Easy. Yeah,
- 39:07Speaker 3: I don't think he was meaning to him himself. I
- 39:09Speaker 3: think it's making a slave reference to the Easy thing
- 39:12Speaker 3: in a way like maybe Easy was murdered with ads
- 39:16Speaker 3: Like I don't, I don't know. It's how you take it,
- 39:18Speaker 3: But I don't think he himself would mention that he
- 39:21Speaker 3: killed Easy.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I just there's how you take it, I guess.
- 39:25Speaker 1: And also I looked into this a little more, and
- 39:29Speaker 1: this is a thing that has happened from time to time,
- 39:33Speaker 1: but all of the uh and I don't mean Shugnight
- 39:36Speaker 1: killing people that happens all the time. I mean the
- 39:39Speaker 1: AIDS needle thing. It generally involves either infected people using
- 39:45Speaker 1: their own blood to do it to someone, or someone
- 39:49Speaker 1: with access to tainted blood uses it to kill a
- 39:53Speaker 1: family member or something like. There's some really crazy stories
- 39:56Speaker 1: about like in one case, a father injected his kid
- 40:00Speaker 1: with AIDS blood.
- 40:02Speaker 2: I guess, assuming the kid would die and he'd get
- 40:04Speaker 2: like insurance money or something.
- 40:06Speaker 1: But I found a really interesting detail in there that
- 40:11Speaker 1: makes me think this is not something you would use
- 40:14Speaker 1: as an assassination method. And that is that if you
- 40:18Speaker 1: get stuck with a needle like this, your chances of
- 40:21Speaker 1: contracting HIV that turns into full blown aids are like
- 40:26Speaker 1: one in two hundred. So if you're trying to eliminate
- 40:29Speaker 1: an enemy, are you gonna go with a method that
- 40:34Speaker 1: is going to fail like one hundred and ninety nine
- 40:36Speaker 1: out of two hundred times? That seems very risky to me.
- 40:40Speaker 3: You're missing a part. Yes, that is risky as not
- 40:43Speaker 3: totally accurate if you guarantee if you need that death.
- 40:46Speaker 3: But if the victim is unlucky with their luck, like fuck,
- 40:52Speaker 3: I'm the one out of that two hundred, I know,
- 40:53Speaker 3: I got it. I definitely got it.
- 40:56Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing with my luck.
- 40:59Speaker 1: I know, I got Yeah, and the government probably has
- 41:02Speaker 1: some algorithm they run the person through first. I'm like, oh, yeah,
- 41:05Speaker 1: that's gonna work on this motherfucker.
- 41:07Speaker 3: That God's unlucky as shit.
- 41:08Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I don't like, what if you did
- 41:13Speaker 1: this and they just magic Johnson things and like exercise
- 41:17Speaker 1: the AIDS out of their body or whatever the fuck
- 41:19Speaker 1: he did, that's gonna be a bummer you're gonna have.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Then you're just gonna have to shoot him.
- 41:23Speaker 3: I guess, well, now, when you did the research on that,
- 41:26Speaker 3: was that stat based on at the time of when
- 41:28Speaker 3: he made that statement or present day because it wouldn't
- 41:31Speaker 3: it be improved. Now you should have a better AI,
- 41:34Speaker 3: now it should be better. Yeah.
- 41:35Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe there's just an app now in.
- 41:37Speaker 3: Order it like Uber just it's it's a drone.
- 41:40Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the drone. Yeah, man, drone assassinations. Those are
- 41:43Speaker 1: going to be such a thing. There's no way they won't.
- 41:46Speaker 3: Be fucked drones with a's needles.
- 41:48Speaker 2: I don't like that at all.
- 41:50Speaker 1: We tried to, yeah, we I'm sure the American I'm
- 41:53Speaker 1: sure the American government wasn't involved at all. But someone
- 41:57Speaker 1: tried to kill Maduro with drone bombs in Venezuela. There's
- 42:01Speaker 1: video of him just looking up at them, like what
- 42:03Speaker 1: the fuck is this?
- 42:05Speaker 2: And then they don't kill anyone. They failed, So wow.
- 42:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. The one in two hundred thing
- 42:12Speaker 1: bothers me, But like, I would think you would just
- 42:15Speaker 1: use some of that like fancy Russian poison that they're
- 42:17Speaker 1: like you just like splash that on a person's face and.
- 42:20Speaker 2: They're gonna explode.
- 42:22Speaker 1: I mean, granted that's a little more noticeable than giving
- 42:24Speaker 1: someone AIDS.
- 42:25Speaker 3: But now would would one in twenty five? Were you?
- 42:29Speaker 1: One in twenty five is a little better but even then,
- 42:33Speaker 1: I mean, I guess guns aren't like one hundred percent effective,
- 42:37Speaker 1: but they're pretty effective. Like in the history of presidents
- 42:40Speaker 1: who have been shot, Reagan is kind of the exception.
- 42:44Speaker 2: A lot of times it works well.
- 42:46Speaker 1: Ford too, someone tried to shoot Gerald Ford and missed,
- 42:48Speaker 1: but that didn't even count.
- 42:50Speaker 2: She wasn't trying. She just pulled a gun and wanted attention.
- 42:54Speaker 3: She didn't even recatch on a rye.
- 42:56Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she didn't listen.
- 42:59Speaker 1: To Beatles songs backwards or anything. She probably did all
- 43:03Speaker 1: that shit.
- 43:03Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. I do think Easy's.
- 43:06Speaker 1: Death is a little suspicious, but also if you look
- 43:09Speaker 1: into it there, it's not completely unheard of for a
- 43:13Speaker 1: person to not have a ton of signs and symptoms
- 43:16Speaker 1: that they have full blown AIDS until right near the
- 43:19Speaker 1: very end, Like it's not it could have just been AIDS,
- 43:23Speaker 1: Like it's possible.
- 43:24Speaker 2: But like same thing with Bob Marley.
- 43:26Speaker 1: Like Bob Marley's death, there's always been some suggestions that
- 43:30Speaker 1: he was like given cancer somehow, And that's one of
- 43:34Speaker 1: those things where you suggest that and people are going
- 43:37Speaker 1: to get in the comments.
- 43:38Speaker 2: And go, we don't have the technology to do that.
- 43:40Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, they're not going to tell you that
- 43:42Speaker 1: we have the technology to do that, but we might
- 43:44Speaker 1: have the technology to do that.
- 43:46Speaker 3: I always believe whenever we don't have technology or do something,
- 43:50Speaker 3: and when we do have it, when we get it,
- 43:52Speaker 3: is when it's they moved on to better. We get
- 43:55Speaker 3: it when we do, you know what I mean? Or
- 43:57Speaker 3: was behind Well we don't have it, they have it,
- 43:59Speaker 3: we have they got better.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 44:01Speaker 1: I think that's how drones were. I think we had
- 44:04Speaker 1: drones for a lot longer than the government led on,
- 44:08Speaker 1: and then eventually they're they're like, well, now we have
- 44:10Speaker 1: drones that are the size of flies, so we don't
- 44:13Speaker 1: have to tell anyone anything anymore.
- 44:15Speaker 3: Right, we got the big dumb ones, they got the
- 44:17Speaker 3: microscopy ones.
- 44:18Speaker 1: Yeah, they have the effective ones. We have the fucking
- 44:21Speaker 1: KB toy store version.
- 44:23Speaker 2: So yeah.
- 44:23Speaker 1: Bob Marley's death was always weird to me, especially if
- 44:26Speaker 1: you look into the time he got shot, because he
- 44:29Speaker 1: got he got shot once and survived. The people have
- 44:33Speaker 1: mentioned that maybe the CIA was involved, and the CIA
- 44:36Speaker 1: has always been like, no, we weren't involved. Yes, his
- 44:40Speaker 1: cameraman was in the CIA, but no, of course we
- 44:43Speaker 1: weren't involved, and that's real that the guy who filmed
- 44:46Speaker 1: Bobby concert in Jamaica in seventy six was an actual
- 44:50Speaker 1: CIA agent. And they're like, what, Yeah, we were there
- 44:57Speaker 1: to protect him.
- 44:58Speaker 2: No, you fucking were not. There's no way.
- 45:01Speaker 3: He was moonlighting. He was moonlighting. He just also happened
- 45:04Speaker 3: to be moonlighting as Bob Min's camera.
- 45:06Speaker 1: That's his passion. Once he really gets his first big break,
- 45:09Speaker 1: he's going to quit the agency and just film rock concerts.
- 45:15Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about this last theory.
- 45:17Speaker 1: It's been one of the most fascinating theories to me
- 45:19Speaker 1: for a long time, and I finally found someone who
- 45:23Speaker 1: did a little deeper research into it. This theory dates
- 45:27Speaker 1: back to twenty twelve, and it is the theory that
- 45:31Speaker 1: record labels promoted gangs to rap because they owned stock
- 45:36Speaker 1: in private prisons and they wanted to promote music that
- 45:39Speaker 1: would promote criminal behavior, which would then fill up those
- 45:44Speaker 1: private prisons. And there wasn't much information attached to this
- 45:49Speaker 1: when it first came out in twenty twelve. It was
- 45:51Speaker 1: literally just an email from an anonymous person who was like, Hey,
- 45:56Speaker 1: this thing happened, And even then I was like, yeah,
- 46:01Speaker 1: this sounds this sounds right. It actually started with a
- 46:06Speaker 1: company called Corrections Corporation of America in twenty twelve. They
- 46:10Speaker 1: reached out to all forty eight states, all forty eight
- 46:14Speaker 1: the continental United States, and they were like, hey, we
- 46:19Speaker 1: want to buy your prisons. We want to buy all
- 46:20Speaker 1: your prisons and make them private prisons, as many prisons
- 46:23Speaker 1: as you want to sell us. But they had one stipulation,
- 46:26Speaker 1: which was that here I will read it verbatim, an
- 46:30Speaker 1: assurance by the agency partner that the agency has a
- 46:34Speaker 1: sufficient inmate population to maintain a minimum ninety percent occupancy
- 46:41Speaker 1: rate over the term of the contract.
- 46:44Speaker 2: That is evil.
- 46:46Speaker 1: That is, I'm saying, we need these fucking prisons filled,
- 46:49Speaker 1: which means you're either asking for more crime or for
- 46:53Speaker 1: more people to be arrested for things that aren't really
- 46:56Speaker 1: crimes and sent a prison for it, which good.
- 47:00Speaker 2: None of that happens in the United States, right.
- 47:03Speaker 3: This is even before this story popped up, this argument
- 47:07Speaker 3: was always something that was discussed even in the black community,
- 47:10Speaker 3: like this is this is like barbershop talk, like this
- 47:13Speaker 3: is something this is the shout out our uncles and
- 47:15Speaker 3: cousins told us about, because they're the ones, you know,
- 47:18Speaker 3: who saw a hip hop go from the Daisy age
- 47:21Speaker 3: just kind of took a big step backwards into just
- 47:24Speaker 3: black on black violence. Music went from peaceful hip hop
- 47:27Speaker 3: to just kind of get it just went the other
- 47:30Speaker 3: other way, and that that spread like wildfire. So we
- 47:34Speaker 3: were already kind of warned, we were kids that this
- 47:36Speaker 3: was going to happen.
- 47:37Speaker 1: And it's not just that it went from peaceful rap.
- 47:41Speaker 1: It was like black empowerment rap, like that's what like
- 47:44Speaker 1: the Jungle Brothers were all about that and they were
- 47:47Speaker 1: fucking huge.
- 47:48Speaker 2: That's where a tribe.
- 47:49Speaker 3: Call Quis comes from native tongues and all.
- 47:52Speaker 1: Yeah, that was what was happening in rap at the time.
- 47:57Speaker 1: Was it wasn't just that the ReVibe of the music
- 48:01Speaker 1: was like uplifting and positive, but people were teaming up,
- 48:05Speaker 1: like there weren't these like you would have beef, like
- 48:10Speaker 1: rappers would have problems with each other, but it would
- 48:12Speaker 1: be shit like ll Cool Jay and Cool Mod where
- 48:15Speaker 1: they would just release songs and then you see a
- 48:18Speaker 1: picture of them in Word Up magazine like shaking hands
- 48:21Speaker 1: and shit, and they're like, it's just music.
- 48:23Speaker 3: It was always one on one. Yeah, it was always
- 48:25Speaker 3: one on one and outliars, and it wasn't really cruise.
- 48:28Speaker 3: It was just one rapper another rapper, they said, they
- 48:31Speaker 3: piece and you you moved on.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Yeah, and most of the conflict was about, uh, well
- 48:36Speaker 1: who's the better rapper and you're ripping off my style
- 48:40Speaker 1: like it was shit like that.
- 48:41Speaker 2: It was never well.
- 48:42Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking shoot you, like you can
- 48:45Speaker 1: get murdered over this, Like it never felt like it
- 48:48Speaker 1: was gonna get to that point back then. And yeah,
- 48:52Speaker 1: then gangster rap happened and it just shut all that
- 48:56Speaker 1: shit down. Like Tribe call Quest did fine, like they
- 48:59Speaker 1: they survived, did it pretty well, but only until like
- 49:02Speaker 1: ninety eight. But like Public Enemy, I feel like Public
- 49:05Speaker 1: Enemy overnight went from the most revered group in rap
- 49:10Speaker 1: to like an afterthought because if you if you listen
- 49:13Speaker 1: to the music in our Message album, which being Public Enemy,
- 49:18Speaker 1: it's spelled very weird, but I'm sure if you just
- 49:20Speaker 1: google it that way, it'll come up fucking rules. It's
- 49:23Speaker 1: a great album. It might be my favorite Public Enemy album.
- 49:27Speaker 1: But it wasn't g funk, like, it wasn't slow. You
- 49:30Speaker 1: couldn't like listen to it in your car and vibe
- 49:34Speaker 1: out with a blunt and it was like anti drugs
- 49:38Speaker 1: and shit, and man, people hated it.
- 49:41Speaker 3: It was too bombastic too at the time, You're right,
- 49:43Speaker 3: it was like it was too everything was chill. That's
- 49:45Speaker 3: how you're right. So that was it was too fast,
- 49:48Speaker 3: too busy. Yeah, it's too loud.
- 49:50Speaker 1: It's one of their wildest albums in terms of production,
- 49:53Speaker 1: But that was that, Like, people need to dig into
- 49:57Speaker 1: Public Enemies output after those first three albums, because they've
- 50:02Speaker 1: been a very interesting group this whole time. They've been
- 50:06Speaker 1: putting out albums the whole time. They're mostly really good,
- 50:09Speaker 1: and yeah, that was their whole vibe was these songs
- 50:15Speaker 1: are chaos. Like the first ice Cube album was produced
- 50:18Speaker 1: by the Bomb Squad, who produced most of the Public
- 50:22Speaker 1: Enemy stuff, and that's why his album sounds nothing like
- 50:25Speaker 1: any other West Coast rap album at the time, and
- 50:29Speaker 1: none that came after it. Because even that, if you're
- 50:32Speaker 1: thinking about the government, like what did we eventually get
- 50:36Speaker 1: out of gangster rap? We got East Coast versus West
- 50:39Speaker 1: Coast and people were like getting shot and killed, like
- 50:43Speaker 1: Tupac and Notorious Big aren't the only people who died
- 50:46Speaker 1: in that. Like one of I think it was a
- 50:48Speaker 1: bad Boy Records employee got like beat to death over
- 50:52Speaker 1: that shit. And so now think about Ice Cube teaming
- 50:57Speaker 1: up with the Bomb Squad. That's the exact opposite of that. Like,
- 51:01Speaker 1: that's not what this government wants. They don't want, like
- 51:06Speaker 1: we've seen time and time again, this government doesn't want
- 51:09Speaker 1: black people organizing in any way that could become like
- 51:13Speaker 1: a nationwide thing. And that's where rap music was headed,
- 51:17Speaker 1: Like it was absolutely headed there, and then along came
- 51:20Speaker 1: gangster rap and it was all done. And for that
- 51:23Speaker 1: to have worked, there almost had to be some agreement
- 51:26Speaker 1: among record labels where they were like, okay, well we're
- 51:29Speaker 1: just not going to promote any other kind of rap
- 51:31Speaker 1: for a while.
- 51:32Speaker 2: And that is what it became. Like Deaf Jam Records
- 51:35Speaker 2: like remember.
- 51:35Speaker 1: Boss, They like she was like one of def Jam's
- 51:40Speaker 1: biggest acts for a while.
- 51:41Speaker 2: She sucked.
- 51:43Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, they pushed the shit out of
- 51:47Speaker 1: her and did not promote Public Enemy at all after that.
- 51:51Speaker 1: I don't know how many albums Public Enemy even had
- 51:54Speaker 1: on deaf Jam after that. That fourth one was on
- 51:57Speaker 1: deaf Jam, but beyond that, I don't even know. And yeah,
- 52:00Speaker 1: maybe it was because of this meeting and what I
- 52:03Speaker 1: like about this particular article I found is someone did
- 52:08Speaker 1: actually dive into these connections, and it's like, you still
- 52:11Speaker 1: can't prove that this happened, but these connections are weird.
- 52:14Speaker 1: I'll link to this article in twenty thirteen, someone writing
- 52:19Speaker 1: under the name Homeboy sand Man, which that was such
- 52:22Speaker 1: a big mistake people made in like the two thousands
- 52:25Speaker 1: and twenty tens. I was writing under like quirky aliases.
- 52:29Speaker 1: Because now it's like, who the fuck are you? I
- 52:32Speaker 1: would love to interview you, but who the fuck are
- 52:34Speaker 1: you homeboy Sandman? Am I gonna like he's probably on
- 52:38Speaker 1: Twitter still using that name, but who knows what I'm
- 52:41Speaker 1: saying is I didn't check, but we'll link to the article,
- 52:45Speaker 1: and these connections he comes up were actually pretty compelling.
- 52:48Speaker 1: The first thing to consider is that, according to a
- 52:52Speaker 1: PBS Frontline investigation, ninety percent of what Americans read, watch
- 52:59Speaker 1: and listen to is controlled by six media companies. And
- 53:03Speaker 1: this was twenty thirteen, so that's probably an even smaller
- 53:07Speaker 1: number now. But either way, with a group that small,
- 53:10Speaker 1: it wouldn't be that hard to coordinate something like this,
- 53:14Speaker 1: Like there's still gonna be independent labels who are putting
- 53:17Speaker 1: out backpack wrap and shit.
- 53:19Speaker 2: But for the most part.
- 53:20Speaker 1: You're gonna have most of the country covered if you
- 53:22Speaker 1: just get those six controlling entities in the room and go,
- 53:25Speaker 1: here's what we're doing. You all have to do it,
- 53:28Speaker 1: or my friend in the CIA with the camera is
- 53:30Speaker 1: gonna shoot you with that camera. I know you think
- 53:33Speaker 1: that's not possible, but we have gun cameras now.
- 53:37Speaker 3: And you said earlier the world is ran by g
- 53:40Speaker 3: I rls S. That's six letters. Yes, the girls, those
- 53:45Speaker 3: are the girls.
- 53:45Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the girls. Came to this meeting.
- 53:48Speaker 1: They rolled up and they told all these record execs,
- 53:51Speaker 1: you have to push gangster rap. And so there's that
- 53:56Speaker 1: part where there's just this very small group of people
- 54:00Speaker 1: that control most of the media in the United States
- 54:02Speaker 1: and it's.
- 54:03Speaker 2: Still that way. So there's that.
- 54:05Speaker 1: But then also this article brings up that, according to Bloomberg,
- 54:10Speaker 1: the largest holder in Corrections Corporation of America is Vanguard
- 54:15Speaker 1: Group Incorporated. And if you recall we mentioned Corrections Corporation
- 54:19Speaker 1: of America early on in this part where they're the
- 54:23Speaker 1: company that wanted ninety percent occupancy in all of their
- 54:27Speaker 1: private prisons, and the largest holder in Corrections Corporation of
- 54:31Speaker 1: America is Vanguard Group. Incorporated, which is just one of
- 54:35Speaker 1: those companies that invests in anything that they think they
- 54:39Speaker 1: can make money from. And Vanguard is also the third
- 54:43Speaker 1: largest holder in Viacom and Time Warner. So right there
- 54:48Speaker 1: you have a connection in that Vanguard has a vested
- 54:52Speaker 1: financial interest in private prisons and in.
- 54:56Speaker 2: The music business.
- 54:57Speaker 1: But also they're only the third largest The largest holder
- 55:01Speaker 1: in Viacom and Time Warner was at the time a
- 55:05Speaker 1: company called black Rock, which if you flash back to
- 55:09Speaker 1: the first episode, was the name of the company doctor
- 55:13Speaker 1: Dre set up so he could make money off Burning Man.
- 55:15Speaker 1: Real full circle moment here, And black Rock was also
- 55:19Speaker 1: the second largest holder in Corrections Corporation of America, second
- 55:24Speaker 1: only to Vanguard, and they were the largest stakeholder in
- 55:28Speaker 1: Viacom in Time Warner at the time. And so all
- 55:32Speaker 1: of these companies do have vested interests in both music
- 55:36Speaker 1: and private prisons. So you still can't definitively prove it,
- 55:41Speaker 1: but it's not that crazy. Like, for one thing, people
- 55:45Speaker 1: need to get over the idea that no one ever
- 55:48Speaker 1: does anything evil for money, like all the time, all
- 55:51Speaker 1: the time, like it's the biggest motivator for murder in
- 55:55Speaker 1: the world, is money, Like if there's money involved, you
- 55:59Speaker 1: follow that money, you probably got the person who committed
- 56:01Speaker 1: the murder. Like everyone knows that. And we know like
- 56:05Speaker 1: corporations start wars over money. If you look into fucking
- 56:10Speaker 1: Halliburton and the Bush Cheney administration, money is such a
- 56:14Speaker 1: huge motivator. And if you look into the history of
- 56:17Speaker 1: what the American government has done to black people, this
- 56:21Speaker 1: is pretty par for the course. Like this is like,
- 56:24Speaker 1: this is a thing, Like it sounds outlandish, but it's not.
- 56:28Speaker 1: Like a corrupt government is going to try and control
- 56:31Speaker 1: the media, and they're going to try and control the
- 56:33Speaker 1: media to accomplish the things they want to accomplish. And
- 56:36Speaker 1: we wanted to put black people in prison a whole
- 56:39Speaker 1: bunch in the eighties and nineties, and this might be
- 56:42Speaker 1: one way we fucking did that.
- 56:44Speaker 3: This corporation have a stake in the correction facility, correctional
- 56:48Speaker 3: facilities and the music business. To them, it's like having
- 56:52Speaker 3: peanut butter and chocolate in both hands. Yeah, it's just
- 56:55Speaker 3: they had to put like for them, it's so perfect.
- 56:58Speaker 3: Why would they not combine to you, they will use
- 57:00Speaker 3: one hand to wash the other perfect.
- 57:03Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we did an episode about a jesse
- 57:06Speaker 1: Ventura episode a conspiracy theory with jesse Ventura episode about
- 57:12Speaker 1: the golf oil spill, and that these companies both own
- 57:17Speaker 1: a large stake in the music industry and the private
- 57:20Speaker 1: prison industry. You could write it off as a coincidence, sure,
- 57:23Speaker 1: but you also have to take into account how evil
- 57:26Speaker 1: these people are. And on that jesse Ventura episode, it
- 57:30Speaker 1: came up that about twelve days before the Golfo oil spill, Halliburton,
- 57:35Speaker 1: who is alleged to have known that this tanker was
- 57:38Speaker 1: going to explode because they were doing maintenance work on it,
- 57:41Speaker 1: Halliburton just mysteriously bought a company that specialized in cleaning
- 57:46Speaker 1: up oil spills.
- 57:47Speaker 2: And people are like.
- 57:49Speaker 1: Well, they clearly did that because they knew this was
- 57:51Speaker 1: gonna happen and they wanted to make money from this.
- 57:53Speaker 1: And people are like, nah, come on, they wouldn't do.
- 57:57Speaker 2: That, Halliburton.
- 57:58Speaker 1: They're too busy starting un US to fied wars in
- 58:01Speaker 1: the Middle East to do that to the Gulf coast.
- 58:03Speaker 1: And it's like, they would absolutely do all of that shit.
- 58:06Speaker 1: And I don't doubt that Time Warner would fucking get
- 58:09Speaker 1: a bunch of people in a room and be like
- 58:11Speaker 1: here's how we're gonna make money putting black people in jail.
- 58:14Speaker 1: If not that crazy, Like it's gonna be a hard
- 58:16Speaker 1: one to prove. I don't know if anyone will ever
- 58:18Speaker 1: prove it, but it doesn't sound.
- 58:19Speaker 2: Like that nuts.
- 58:20Speaker 3: I would say I always heard it when I was little,
- 58:22Speaker 3: from older from older guys. And this is before this
- 58:25Speaker 3: even surfaced, so to anything, this just proved that point,
- 58:27Speaker 3: Like they're like, we told you, told you, Yeah, they're
- 58:30Speaker 3: doing it. They're try some little.
- 58:31Speaker 2: Black boys to jail, and it worked.
- 58:34Speaker 3: It's still working.
- 58:35Speaker 1: I should mention all of those connections we brought up
- 58:38Speaker 1: obviously are from an article from twenty thirteen, but I
- 58:42Speaker 1: don't know, go look into it now. I bet it
- 58:43Speaker 1: hasn't changed that much. I bet, if anything, it's fewer
- 58:47Speaker 1: people who own everything now. And that's it.
- 58:51Speaker 2: That's our episode. Yeah, that is.
- 58:54Speaker 1: That is the number one hip hop conspiracy of all time,
- 58:57Speaker 1: as decided by me. But I think this is one
- 59:01Speaker 1: that you take pretty seriously too.
- 59:03Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good. These are the things we've been kind
- 59:07Speaker 3: of watching involved in hip hop the past decade or so.
- 59:11Speaker 3: The direction is going.
- 59:12Speaker 1: I will say, since the last episode, we have actually
- 59:15Speaker 1: confirmed that Nicki minaj is jay Z. So we need
- 59:18Speaker 1: to retract everything we said about that not being.
- 59:21Speaker 2: That's all real. Go look it up. Yeah, that would
- 59:25Speaker 2: be so fucking factual.
- 59:28Speaker 1: Uh so, do we have anything to plug before we
- 59:32Speaker 1: get out of here? Thank you for doing these episodes.
- 59:33Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
- 59:34Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for having me. This is fun. These
- 59:37Speaker 3: are a tried and true conspiracies. None of them are true.
- 59:41Speaker 3: One's false. Yeah, I think that was the thing you
- 59:44Speaker 3: got to mention.
- 59:45Speaker 2: Do you have anything to plug before we get out
- 59:47Speaker 2: of here?
- 59:48Speaker 3: Check out the website slicepur Slim dot bandcamp dot com.
- 59:52Speaker 3: Got a bunch of new projects up, a lot of
- 59:54Speaker 3: new music.
- 59:54Speaker 1: Go check it out, uh Patreon dot com, slash on,
- 59:57Speaker 1: pops on pops network, dot Supercast dot tech, or get
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: bonus episodes right in your Spotify apps if you want
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: to hear more episodes of this show per month.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: And uh, I think that's it. Let's get the funk
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: out of here.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: Slice Burg say goodbye, goodbye people, goodbye everybody.
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: We love you.