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- 0:15Speaker 1: Welcome back to Greek Cast. Today we are doing a
- 0:18little double headed feature, starting off with one of the
- 0:22stories that is in our subrid our slash cut Creek
- 0:25Cast called esoteric isotopes, which I don't like that. Isotopes
- 0:31Are youe yucky yucky numb numb time.
- 0:34Speaker 2: You you e yucky time you?
- 0:36Speaker 1: Yeah? Isotopes are like the little the little fucking fish bugs.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Right, No, that's isopods.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Oh well okay, well then you see we're never out
- 0:43of the yucky yucky.
- 0:47Speaker 2: We're out of a yucky nasty podcast with right now.
- 0:50Speaker 1: I thought it was like isott Yeah.
- 0:52Speaker 2: No, No. An isotope is a variant of an element
- 0:55that has a different number of neutrons compared to the standard.
- 0:58Speaker 1: They're also the little bugs that are in fish's mouth whenever.
- 1:02Speaker 2: You know, No, that's not you ever see the movie.
- 1:06I don't even think it's you ever see the movie
- 1:07The Bay? Yes, that's the that's the story the Bay.
- 1:11Speaker 1: That's just that's the story. Reading esoteric yucky bug, the
- 1:15story should have been called already giving it a docket
- 1:19for not calling the story esoteric yuckie.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Bug, already docking point from it.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Literally, no, not all.
- 1:31Speaker 2: It's not all isopods that do that. It's just like
- 1:33the one. No, no, no, all of them do that.
- 1:36All of them do that. Have you seen the picture
- 1:39of a bunch of isopods around the back and.
- 1:40Speaker 1: They're extremely esoteric. There's a bunch of isopods Rondurno's I mean,
- 1:45do you blame them?
- 1:45Speaker 2: Hold on? This is an important image. I feel sometimes
- 1:50I feel like I'm on the show with my grandfather.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm being completely honest, I don't
- 1:55really I don't think I really know what esoteric means.
- 1:58Teacher Isaiah, could you tell me what esoteric means?
- 2:01Speaker 2: No?
- 2:02Speaker 1: All right, then I'll ask my real teacher, asked Jeeves
- 2:05so terric okay, intended for or likely to be understood
- 2:09by only a small number of people with a specialized
- 2:12knowledge or interest. That's kind of funny. That's ironic that
- 2:14you wouldn't tell me that too. Feels like you were
- 2:16being esoteric yourself.
- 2:19Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about, dude.
- 2:21Speaker 1: I know I like that picture. I like the picture.
- 2:25I forget what. I want to eat them. I want
- 2:27to boil them and eat them.
- 2:28Speaker 2: The giant looking thing, because they're the good lobster dude,
- 2:33what you mean?
- 2:33Speaker 1: They're the good. The lobsters are the the the rats
- 2:36of the sea. And these isopods that have obviously a
- 2:39good taste next to this vintage bag of Doritos, I
- 2:43think would taste delightful. You're telling me that if you
- 2:45cooked up an isopod that had a belly full of
- 2:47Doritos that it wouldn't taste good. I don't know.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Okay, so this has nothing The story that we're in
- 2:54today that has nothing to do with isopods was written
- 2:57by user Project fade touched. I think this is the
- 3:01only story they've posted to the subreddit, but had some
- 3:05up votes, and Harry on our team said that we
- 3:08should check it out, that we would like it, so
- 3:10we are going to be doing that now. So Project
- 3:12fade touched, thank you for writing. Thank you for putting
- 3:15it in our subreddit. It means a lot to us.
- 3:18For anyone who wants to read it or support the author.
- 3:20We'll have it linked in the description.
- 3:21Speaker 1: And thank you so much to our beautiful audio listeners
- 3:23on Spotify and Apple podcast. Appreciate you for the amazing
- 3:26ratings there. And also thank you to our beautiful patrons
- 3:30and guys just want to let you know too here
- 3:31before too long, new merch is on the way. Not
- 3:34sure if it's this week, can't really, I don't know,
- 3:37but a new merch is coming. So all the people
- 3:40that have been fiending for some new fabric, let me
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- 3:47and it is very isopod coded. So without further ado,
- 3:52let's get into it.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Esoteric isotopes.
- 3:55Speaker 1: So karayukey tobes Well is going to kill you to
- 3:58say this first line.
- 3:59Speaker 2: All right, m I was never a very religious man.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Clip that.
- 4:10Speaker 2: I've made a choke, go all back that you're the
- 4:12person Bety Tails warned me about. But you are in
- 4:15like the Saturday Morning cartoon way of like, go ahead,
- 4:19say the bad word, say the bad word for your mom.
- 4:22Will hear? I was ever a very religious man. Hell
- 4:26I wasn't even a very good please clip that most.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Of my life.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you so much, Thank you
- 4:32for the clippers for doing that. All right, that's the
- 4:34last time I'm saying it unless there's another great one.
- 4:36But that's just awesome.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Well, you just want a clip that they said, I'm
- 4:40not the good. Oh, hell, okay, most of my life
- 4:49was lived in direct contrast almost every tenant of any religion.
- 4:53I sat there, listening to the raspy breath escaping my lungs.
- 4:57I was never a religious man, and even now in
- 4:58my final hours, I reached out to no God. I said,
- 5:02no prayers to fall upon apps and ears. All I
- 5:04could think about was my life and the events that
- 5:07put me here. Spring of nineteen sixty nine. Ooh is
- 5:10this slow Vietnam story? I hope? So. I awoke in
- 5:13the morning after a night of terrible sleep, and stretched
- 5:16out as far as the space of the small cop
- 5:18would afford me to slid myself up and over its edge,
- 5:21slipping my feet into my black combat boots. Oh, it
- 5:23is the chatter of over a dozen other men, drowned
- 5:27out any private thoughts I might have had, which was fine,
- 5:30because a strange feeling of sadness had overcome me. Bopping
- 5:32open a small trunk, I retrieved my uniform and donned it,
- 5:35buttoning the olive green shirt over my white undershirt slay
- 5:39as I walked over to the edge of the tent.
- 5:41Speaker 1: What I just said, sleigh after the the uh, it
- 5:45just seemed like he was serving real there with the
- 5:47olive green shirt over the white undershirt. I just thought
- 5:49he I just thought he was slaying.
- 5:53Speaker 2: I don't like I don't like you saying that. Don't
- 5:58do that again, thank you. As I walked over to
- 6:02the edge of the tent, one of the older men
- 6:03shouted to me, Dick, Hey, Dick, glance in his direction
- 6:07to see the sergeant in charge of the platoon. Ever
- 6:09since our first lieutenant pit the dust coming towards me, Sure,
- 6:12I said, snapping into an attentive stance, I felt, have
- 6:17you been wanted to be like a like a sergeant?
- 6:20Speaker 1: Really, I've wanted to do that? Stupid fucking well, I'm
- 6:22not gonna say stupid. I guess I don't really know.
- 6:24I just whenever they're sitting there, like they throw their
- 6:29gun around the dew, all right, I've always wanted to.
- 6:35I've always wanted to not only know it, but I've
- 6:37wanted to lead one so long and to hear all
- 6:40the little you know, any people throwing the gun around.
- 6:45It's oddly satisfying. It's a it's stemming for my tisms,
- 6:51is what I would say.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Did you have something this morning? Is there a reason
- 6:57that you're in this like state.
- 6:58Speaker 1: What what did I do?
- 7:01Speaker 2: You're just so amped up, you've jumped me on the
- 7:05first sentence for everything, You've ran like three micro bits
- 7:10by yourself, completely undated.
- 7:13Speaker 1: I'll stop you like bucking stock, just firing off the
- 7:17fucking stock.
- 7:18Speaker 2: I fell to the ady's stance and looked expectantly at him.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Need you out on the horn. Apparently something's happened that
- 7:24requires your attention.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Ray Snybrow will only to be met with a shrug
- 7:28as he turned to go chase down some of my
- 7:29other squad members. I walked to the tense edge, pulled
- 7:32across the lip to open it, and exited into the
- 7:34heavy air, thick with moisture. Mornings in Vietnam were always
- 7:38like this. Hot, muggy, intense rain through the night hadn't helped.
- 7:42A blanket of fog had settled upon the ground, almost
- 7:45so thick it felt like you were wading through water.
- 7:48I hurriedly made my way to the radio tower, stomping
- 7:51through the muddy ground along the way. At the top
- 7:54of the tower, I found the radio telephone operator waiting
- 7:57for me, with a solemn look on his face. Seeing me,
- 8:00he stood and shook my.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Hand, son, Will I think I'll just let you have this.
- 8:06Speaker 2: He had to be the receiver from the radio, and
- 8:07after fiddling with the console, I could finally hear a
- 8:11voice through the static.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Richard, Richard, can you hear me?
- 8:15Speaker 2: The voice belonged to my mother, congresswoman from my home state.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Mom, Richard, I'm pulling some strings and bringing you home.
- 8:23It's your father, Pete.
- 8:26Speaker 2: The grief was so laden in her voice that didn't
- 8:29even need her to finish the sentence. Honestly, I don't
- 8:32think I even needed this call to know. The night
- 8:34prior I had the Stranger stream, it was hard to
- 8:37recall all of it. It had started with me locked
- 8:40inside a dark room. I could see just a slit
- 8:43of flight coming from a very far distance away from me,
- 8:46leaking into the room ever so slightly. I could tell
- 8:50the space I was in must have been enormous, and
- 8:53the dream I could see figures pacing outside of the door.
- 8:56I could hear them arguing and yelling, but I couldn't
- 8:59make out the word they said. It was then that
- 9:01the door swung open to reveal my father dressed in
- 9:04a lab coat, which to me felt strange because my
- 9:06father had been a stay at home father for most
- 9:08of his life, something almost unheard of in those days,
- 9:11of course, but he was adamant to support the political
- 9:14career of my mother. Strode over to me for what
- 9:16felt like a yawns, each stepped back out in his
- 9:19face around us, and as he finally arrived, I was
- 9:22looking down at him from dozens of different angles at once.
- 9:24Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do. I've tried it,
- 9:28I feel Please tell him I tried.
- 9:31Speaker 2: The dream warped and I was now looking down on
- 9:33my father in bed from just one angle, this time
- 9:36looking far too old, much more frail than he had
- 9:39when I left, looked back up at me and his
- 9:42face contorted into horror. He tried to wriggle out of
- 9:45the bed, but it was like his limbs simply wouldn't function.
- 9:49As he struggled to move, he opened his mouth to speak.
- 9:51No sound escaped them, but from the movement of his
- 9:54lips I could garner the words ooh.
- 9:58Speaker 1: He just said. No. No sound escaped him, so.
- 10:08Speaker 2: I guess that is what it would sound like, just
- 10:13moaning from his lips. I could garner the words I'm
- 10:19sorry again and again. Then I woke up, Richard, Honey,
- 10:24are you there? The voice of my mother brought me
- 10:27back to the present moment. Yes, sat there numbly.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Listen. You'll be home by the end of the day. Okay,
- 10:33we need you home. Sharon, Sharon is inconsolable. And Michael
- 10:38whom he's Michael.
- 10:40Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty nine. They're going to have him home
- 10:43by the end of the day.
- 10:44Speaker 1: I just want to say so. I didn't want to
- 10:46stop the flow, but it was very funny to me
- 10:49that there's more words, like my dad came out in
- 10:51a lab coat, and it made it seem like he's
- 10:53like which was strange because he was a guy who
- 10:55landscaped yards or whatever. It's like that they presented the
- 11:00lab code thing was funny. Yeah. I don't know, I
- 11:02I I get. Let's it's it like unless the base
- 11:09is nearby? I don't know, right?
- 11:11Speaker 2: Or is he No, he's in he's in Vietnam.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Said the Vietnam mornings. Yeah, put combat boots. He's talking
- 11:18to a platoon sergeant because the lieutenant got killed. So yeah,
- 11:22he's in. He's in combat in Vietnam. Well, I guess
- 11:26what what were they was it C one thirties. Back then,
- 11:29what was the transport plane around that long bomber? Well,
- 11:34I don't.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Yeah, is the name of that big black one that's
- 11:43like that looks sick? What's the name of that one
- 11:46that's the n obomer right?
- 11:49Speaker 2: The uniform is all right, what's that's the nickname was?
- 11:55Speaker 1: What was the what's the big black one?
- 11:57Speaker 2: Okay, well it was the C one thirty. It says
- 11:59that the two transport aircrafts where the Sea one thirty
- 12:01and the C one one. Okay, so yeah, okay, yeah,
- 12:05you could get there in one day, then I think,
- 12:07like the flight over the ocean is like eleven hours
- 12:10or something like that.
- 12:11Speaker 1: I just I just literally googled. I just I just googled,
- 12:13could you fly to Vietnam to America in one day
- 12:16in nineteen sixty eight? Said no, you could not fly
- 12:18from Vietnam to the United States and one day in
- 12:20nineteen sixty eight. I just want to see that. That's what, Yeah,
- 12:22that's what googled. It says.
- 12:23Speaker 2: It says airtime would be twenty six hours. I like
- 12:26how this guy made a story for our subreddit and
- 12:29was like really pumped about it. Really like I don't
- 12:32think this timeline is right. I think this is wrong incorrect. Yeah,
- 12:36now if he was flying on the unibomber, ted Kazinski
- 12:40fly through the air, what is that?
- 12:44Speaker 1: It's a it's a unibomber. What is that? What?
- 12:48Speaker 4: What?
- 12:48Speaker 2: What?
- 12:48Speaker 1: What is that actual airplane called?
- 12:51Speaker 2: Which plane are you talking?
- 12:52Speaker 1: It's the fucking big black one that's like kind of
- 12:55flat and wide. Oh the B two is that? I
- 12:57was called B two bomber. That's what I was talking about.
- 12:59That's what That's what they flew. Yeah, that's what they
- 13:01flew home like six.
- 13:03Speaker 2: The stealth bomber.
- 13:05Speaker 1: The stealth bomber is sneakly going to break the laws
- 13:08of time and get home from Vietnam to American one day.
- 13:12Speaker 2: Okay, So the B two production ended in the year
- 13:16two thousand, so I don't think in nineteen sixty nine
- 13:19he would have we don't make him anymore, had access
- 13:21to one. Yeah, no, they still make him. I'm saying
- 13:25that they that's when they started. It was first made
- 13:28in nineteen eighty eight, and the production was from nineteen
- 13:31eighty eight to two thousand. You know those things cost
- 13:33over a billion dollars.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Yeah, easy chimp change anything to get our boys home. Right,
- 13:41what could we be carying that's worth a billion dollars?
- 13:47Speaker 2: It's two billion, actually it's two billion.
- 13:49Speaker 1: It seems like such an excessive amount of money to
- 13:53put into a stupid.
- 13:54Speaker 5: Fucking plane to get our boys up, just randomly getting
- 13:58like really political all about it. Uh So someone someone
- 14:03crashed one during a test flight too.
- 14:05Speaker 1: That was he fired or killed and he had to
- 14:08hand to kill.
- 14:09Speaker 2: I'm sure he was fired, but it was on landing.
- 14:12It like you lived the crash, but like the plane
- 14:16was destroyed. Just two billion dollars recked.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I think two billion dollars for a stupid fucking
- 14:22plane is not worth it. Think about what you could
- 14:26do it for two billion dollars, man, Think about how
- 14:28many Dave and Busters you could open two billion dollars.
- 14:32Speaker 2: That's how how many day.
- 14:39Speaker 1: It cost a minimum of eleven point eight million dollars
- 14:42with a requirement of a significant portion around four million
- 14:44to six million to open a Dave and Busters.
- 14:48Speaker 2: All right, well, okay, hold up, with two billion dollars,
- 14:51you could open about four hundred company on locations.
- 14:54Speaker 1: I just want to say that that's what we're missing.
- 14:58I mean, like I'm not going to try to get
- 15:00political or anything, but that's what we're missing.
- 15:03Speaker 2: I thought you said anything to bring those boys home.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, that's before I knew.
- 15:08Speaker 2: I mean, even though even though the B two bomber
- 15:12wasn't really bringing anyone home, it was a bombing plane.
- 15:16Speaker 1: I thought that dropped the people off. That's why they
- 15:18called the bomber. It's like a big parachute plane.
- 15:22Speaker 2: No, it drops bombs. That's why it's called a bombers.
- 15:27Speaker 1: That kind of like sour cadence. It's very obvious now,
- 15:30but you know.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Do you think the ones people jump out of the
- 15:36carriers would be called bombers?
- 15:38Speaker 1: God, it's sick, isn't it? Is that kind of cool?
- 15:43Speaker 6: You're like, bombs awayboards and he dropped all the people.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Be fucking cool.
- 15:48Speaker 2: Okay, I'm pretty sure every aerial combat unit jumps out
- 15:52of C one thirties, So it's just like the standard.
- 15:57The back door drops open.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Then there is the NUB podcast. Why don't we get
- 16:01back to fucking this horseshow? Okay?
- 16:03Speaker 2: All all right, all right, yeah, okay, whatever, whatever, whatever, Okay,
- 16:08I'm not going to get mad. I'm not going to
- 16:09get mad. Sharon, my younger sister by five years, was
- 16:12only eighteen. She had absolutely been a daddy's girl from
- 16:16the time she could speak, so I could imagine she
- 16:18was devastated. Michael was our younger brother, and he was
- 16:21only fifteen. I'd been in Vietnam for four years at
- 16:25this point, so I missed his becoming a teen era.
- 16:27I'd gotten letters, though, describing how difficult he had become
- 16:30from my mother. Apparently he was a real rebel, having
- 16:34been caught drinking, smoking, reefer, even got himself in some
- 16:37hot water when he burned down an abandoned factory. All
- 16:40right stood up and I could hear my mother saying
- 16:43something on the radio. But all I could think about
- 16:46was my father. I wasn't there in his final moments.
- 16:49The worst part of it for me was that I
- 16:51wasn't even drafted. I chose this stupidly, of course. Instead
- 16:57I should have stayed home. I should have let my
- 16:59parents get me set up with a cushy government job.
- 17:02I didn't seen him in four whole years now I
- 17:04never would again. My mother was accurate with the information.
- 17:08It wasn't long after a helicopter landed to evacuate me
- 17:11to the nearest friendly airport and out of Vietnam altogether.
- 17:15Some sixteen hours after waking up, I was home. Some
- 17:19sixteen hours after waking up, I was home. Stole them
- 17:23from the warran to the dead night. Upon landing in Washington,
- 17:26d C. I was greeted by a driver holding a
- 17:28sign with my name on it. Rode quietly through the
- 17:31night to my family's townhouse in the city. If I
- 17:34thought the air in Vietnam was thick, it was nothing
- 17:36compared to the somber stillness that awaited me in the house.
- 17:40Despite of being one in the morning, I could hear
- 17:42Sharon upstairs crying, layered into the far too loud song
- 17:45Fortunate Son blaring from Michael's room. My mother was sitting
- 17:49on the stairs waiting my arrival. Her eyes were puffy
- 17:52and red as she strode over to embrace me, and
- 17:54the moment my arms wrapped around her, she began to sob.
- 17:58I held my mother there for some time before I
- 18:00went to comfort chair, and I noticed Michael's door was
- 18:03plastered with anti war stickers, peace signs, and other hippie shit.
- 18:07After I got done trying and failing to pacify my sister,
- 18:11I went to his door, which was locked. I saw
- 18:13it and went to my parents' room. I glanced at
- 18:16the ceiling where I had looked down at my father
- 18:18in my dream, expecting nothing, only to be shocked by
- 18:21what looked like someone had taken a torch or lighter
- 18:24and held it just below the spot, enough to singe
- 18:27the plaster only in the shape of a ring. I
- 18:30walked over and got onto the bed, reaching out on
- 18:33my tippy toes to brush the circular ring spot. Soot
- 18:36or ash came off onto my finger, which I rubbed
- 18:39together and smelled. Didn't smell like soot or ash. Smelled
- 18:43like oranges and pine needles if you burned them together.
- 18:47Buried my father that weekend. The entire time I was
- 18:50back home, Michael wouldn't so much as look at me,
- 18:53let alone speak to me. He was a lot different
- 18:56from when I had left, gangly and taller, care down
- 19:00past his shoulders, he was sprouting peach fuzz along his lip,
- 19:04and he always wore an olive green jacket with a
- 19:06graphic band tea underneath it, even to the funeral a
- 19:09few weeks past. And eventually my mother began to insist
- 19:12I take that cushy job instead of going back to Vietnam.
- 19:15Ultimately I decided she was right. She began to plead
- 19:18for Michael's sake. She had me honorably discharge. It set
- 19:21me up a lab in the city so so Terratronics.
- 19:25It was a kind of pushing government job. Is that
- 19:30you have a lab called so Terrritronics. It was a
- 19:36leading government funded research site for electronics, something I had
- 19:40actually shown some promise with this kid in the Army
- 19:44time out.
- 19:46Speaker 1: It was a leading government funded research site for electronics.
- 19:49And it's called trucks. It's like being like I I
- 20:00worked at an artillery place called Boomy Big Bombs.
- 20:03Speaker 2: It was a.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Governmental lead. It was a government leading funded artillery.
- 20:12Speaker 2: It's I mean, to the story's credit. If it was
- 20:17a public business that the government was just using and funding,
- 20:21then it could be any name. But if it's an
- 20:24actual government job like he's describing and not just funded,
- 20:28then like the government calling it the big Boomy Big
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- 22:12I was constantly fixing up radios and other gear, so
- 22:14it fit me well. I began pretty small there, mainly
- 22:17doing office administration type of work. Over the course of
- 22:21the next few years, however, I went back to college
- 22:23and graduated. This resulted in a bump up the ladder,
- 22:27so to speak, so I was now able to take
- 22:29on more advanced tasks. Winter of nineteen eighty four, I
- 22:34paced the lengths of my office staring at a blackport
- 22:36across the room. Currently, I was working on coming up
- 22:40with a solution to infant mortality and the solution to
- 22:45infant mortality the one the secret code infant Mortality and
- 22:49unpredictability and integrated circuits are those two things in are
- 22:54linked circuits and infant debts. He's just setting at his desk,
- 23:06holding like a baby doll at a computer chip, and
- 23:09he's like, there's got to be away.
- 23:14Speaker 1: The technologist isn't there yet.
- 23:18Speaker 2: If only I had more time, he has a test
- 23:24covered in baby dolls. He just like swipes it off.
- 23:28The chips would pass a benchmark test in the lab,
- 23:31only to fail once released to consumers, were placed in
- 23:33lab equipment. Despite this issue, might higher up seem too
- 23:36worried about it.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Don't worry about it, Richard, I'm sure the answer will
- 23:39come in time.
- 23:40Speaker 2: Just keep at it, it would say to me, nonchalantly,
- 23:43not a very expeditious mood for a company whose profit
- 23:46margins were being harmed by these chip failures. Of thinking
- 23:48to myself, I gave up for the night and decided
- 23:51to leave it for another day. I left the office behind,
- 23:54turned my home, that same townhouse where my parents raised
- 23:57my siblings and I mom had passed away for you
- 24:00years back, and lifted in my name, probably because no
- 24:03one even knew where Sharon was. Michael was imprisoned for
- 24:06repeated counts of arson. I pulled my escort into the driveway,
- 24:10where I noticed a light on one of the upstairs windows.
- 24:13Quickly got out of the car and headed up to
- 24:15the steps. To the patio door was ajar, having been
- 24:19clearly kicked open. I quietly pressed on the door make
- 24:22sured a tiptoe as slowly as I could to avoid
- 24:24making any noise. Glancing to the side table, I quicked
- 24:28myself with a heavy silver candlestick, carefully placing the candle
- 24:32onto the table. So I crept along the hall. I
- 24:35began up the stairs, and in my moment of nervousness,
- 24:38I forgot all about the loose step a few steps up. Pump,
- 24:41pressing my full weight down on the floorboard, let out
- 24:44aloud groan. I froze, looking up past the banister towards
- 24:48the light coming down the hall. Nothing, no sound. As
- 24:53I continue to make my way upstairs, a familiar sin
- 24:56assaulted me, causing me to freeze again and pine needles
- 25:02they had been burned together. I had to press on,
- 25:04trying to find the source of intrusion into my home.
- 25:08Once I approached the top of the stairs, the smell
- 25:10was stronger, much stronger. Rounding the banister. At the top,
- 25:14I finally saw the light's origin was from Sharon's old room.
- 25:17The door was cracked, light smoke was coming from the room.
- 25:21I dropped the candlestick holder, which clattered to the ground
- 25:24with a thud, and ran to the door, swinging it open.
- 25:26Charon laid across the bed that once belonged to her
- 25:29in her room, which was completely unchanged from the day
- 25:32she left. To her side. Her outstretched arm had a
- 25:36rubber hose ripped from somewhere in the house tied around
- 25:39it at her pesep needle hung from the vein her
- 25:43in her elbow. To her side was a small plastic
- 25:45baggy of a yellow powder accompanied by a spoon and
- 25:48lighter heroin. I looked on in whr at my baby sister,
- 25:51who had come home to what die. I ran over
- 25:56to her and pressed my finger to her neck. Upon
- 25:58seeing her eyes rolled back in her head no pulse.
- 26:02She was dead. Sank to my knees and began a sob,
- 26:06holding her head against my chest. It was quite some
- 26:08time before I found the strength to move, and when
- 26:11I did finally come back to my senses, the room
- 26:13around me was almost as nightmarish as her body. Holes
- 26:17had been punched into the walls, and it seemed Sharon
- 26:19had taken red lipstick and written all over them. I
- 26:22scanned some of the writings, dreams and eyes, father lies, rings,
- 26:28so round and round and round? Can you smell the
- 26:31oranges too? Take me to the forest. I can't save you.
- 26:37I'm sorry for what he did. I'm sorry sorry. I
- 26:42couldn't make sense of the insane scribbling and scrawling she
- 26:45had left on the walls, but the smell of oranges
- 26:48was all too familiar. When it hit me, it hit
- 26:51like a truck sinking into my gut, hesitantly, as if
- 26:54my body refused to obey. My eyes dragged to the
- 26:57ceiling above Sharon's lifeless corpse. No it can't, but it
- 27:03was a small ring of soot and ash was imprinted
- 27:06onto the ceiling. I stood now, my legs shaking, climbed
- 27:11onto the bed beside Sharon. My hand extended towards the spot.
- 27:15Only this time it was hot, hotter than a stove.
- 27:19I could barely get close enough without a feeling as
- 27:21though I was going to burn me. What was this
- 27:25this stuff? Was it something from heating the heroin? Was
- 27:31this how my father had died? Was he secretly an addict.
- 27:34I got back off the bed and removed the needle
- 27:36from Charon's now cold arm, took the heroin and flushed
- 27:39it down the toilet before calling nine to one one.
- 27:42They came fairly fast to remove her body. No need
- 27:45to check if it was laced or you know, tag
- 27:46or anything like that, just get rid of it. They
- 27:49came fairly fast to remove her body and didn't ask
- 27:51about the riding on the walls or obvious lack of drugs.
- 27:54The police came and asked me questions. I answered honestly
- 27:57and told them what I had done with the heroin
- 27:59of indolences, and then left the house that had already
- 28:02felt empty now felt like a pit of endless darkness
- 28:05in despair. This place had claimed two of the people
- 28:08I had loved. I decided it wouldn't claim me too.
- 28:12Then a few months I had listed the house for sale,
- 28:14and within a few more it had sold. With it
- 28:17came a change for my life, because in the spring
- 28:19of nineteen eighty five, I both met my wife, who
- 28:22lived within the same complex I had moved into, got
- 28:25a huge promotion at work for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Interesting thing of it. It jumped like would it jump like.
- 28:35Speaker 2: They jumped five years and now two years.
- 28:37Speaker 1: Two years, yeah, interesting and pretty much just oh right, no, no, no,
- 28:41fifteen yeah, yeah, so a long time. And the big
- 28:47thing is he's basically fallen into this. I wouldn't say mundane,
- 28:50but kind of like formulaic life comes back home and
- 28:53his sister has died of a heroin overdose. I guess
- 28:57I'm wondering. Also, the mom was past two now, so.
- 29:03Speaker 2: It's it's the only one still lives since.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Brother him and his brother. Okay, yeah, I'm trying to see.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Yeah, after that would get another jump In two years
- 29:17Spring nineteen eighty six, my life was slowly coming together.
- 29:20Now it felt like better late than ever at all.
- 29:23I suppose I was now married to my beautiful wife,
- 29:26Elaine Cook. She quickly became my whole world. She inspired
- 29:30me to do better, to be better. Despite having been
- 29:33abandoned as a child orphan at the age of two,
- 29:35she was incredibly strong, willed and persistent. She had worked
- 29:38herself to the bone getting ahead in life, making sure
- 29:41her past never defined her. Things at work had taken
- 29:44a turn in March of eighty five, when I was
- 29:47both taken off the infancy mortality project and assigned to
- 29:50finding a way to deal with high temperature diffusion and chipsets.
- 29:55This promotion came with the higher clearance than before, and
- 29:57I gained access to portions of the building I didn't
- 29:59know exis. Originally, i'd worked in the labs found in
- 30:02the second sub basement, to my assumption, the last basement.
- 30:06To my surprise, when my new clearance came, I was
- 30:09informed I would be in the eleventh sub basement from
- 30:11now on. I remember the conversation pretty vividly my manager,
- 30:16Timothy Bruce, who was also a high ranking army general.
- 30:19I'd come into my office in the morning, still.
- 30:22Speaker 1: No look on the infancy mortality Dick, No, unfortunately, not well, he.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Just has he just has a bunch of baby dolls.
- 30:31Speaker 1: It's like there's got to be a clue now, just
- 30:36a bunch of dead battery babies on my desk. It's
- 30:41just he's just like, yeah, it's a sleep yeah. All
- 30:47the babies, all the baby dolls have like goggles and
- 30:50helmets on and like a giant bull's eye on the wall.
- 30:54He's just there's still they're still dying on impact charging.
- 31:02Speaker 2: Just all night. He's got he's got a clipboard, and
- 31:07he's like walking over to the dolls and writing notes
- 31:09and then putting it back in the slink shot.
- 31:16Speaker 1: That's all right. Not every problem is gonna get solved immediately.
- 31:20That said, we're out searching this problem. I'll keep trying, Sergeant,
- 31:28Thank you, sir, dude, John, just.
- 31:35Speaker 2: Not every problem is gonna get solved immediately.
- 31:38Speaker 4: As they're flying in between the two of them like
- 31:41strain and the walls, his smile was friendly.
- 31:51Speaker 2: There's a twitch in his brow. Something in his voice.
- 31:56I'm poison this scene for me, I followed us. Uh,
- 32:02it's something in his voice like annoyance I hadn't heard before.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Wait, am I being fired? No? No, no, no, a
- 32:08brilliant mind like yours. No, no, no no. That's the
- 32:12most condescending should have ever heard my life.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Dude.
- 32:15Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, a brilliant mind like yours, sling
- 32:19shotting the babies into the wall with goggles and helmets. No,
- 32:23you're actually being promoted, getting a nice fat bonus to
- 32:26your pay, plus new security clearances.
- 32:30Speaker 2: I nodded my head and then asked, well, I still.
- 32:32Speaker 1: Be in this office and in the same lab.
- 32:34Speaker 2: General shook its head.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Son you'll have the new office in a lab both
- 32:38on sub basement eleven min screw wide sub eleven.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Wait, there aren't even buttons for that. On the elevator,
- 32:47Win put his hand up to stop me. You'll be
- 32:51using the elevator you didn't even know existed before.
- 32:53Speaker 1: Now you'll need.
- 32:54Speaker 2: This reduced a new badge, this time with a magnetic
- 32:58strip running along it.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Follow me.
- 33:01Speaker 2: I did as I was told and followed the General
- 33:03out of my office, which was immediately flooded by a
- 33:06few men who proceeded to grab anything that belonged to
- 33:08me and toned after us, just arms full of babies.
- 33:13Speaker 1: Leave the baby dolls, Dick, I can't. It's my life's work.
- 33:20Speaker 2: I'll never know. I looked back and began to object.
- 33:22When one looked back and began to object, one of
- 33:26them started manhandling sensitive equipment. Yeah, the slave shot, but
- 33:30the General waved as we continued down the corridor. It's
- 33:34it's just that infant mortality is so far removed from
- 33:37cybernetics that I'm sure it's not gonna come into the
- 33:41story somewhere, And that's why. But it's so abrasive initially, Well, we've.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Had we've only had we've had so far, we've had
- 33:49three deaths of but not but none of them have
- 33:52been infants, So just it just feels jarring. I think
- 33:55you know what I mean.
- 33:55Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. We rode the elevator back up to the
- 33:58ground floor and passed a few more hallways up to
- 34:00a door I'd seen a few times but never paid
- 34:02a second glance to. It was labeled supply closet Omega.
- 34:07Now that I read it, it seems somewhat odd now
- 34:12that I see the closet was labeled Omega.
- 34:13Speaker 1: That was suspicious, A closet labeled Omega in a giant
- 34:19building called Esoteric Tronics. She was going, weird that there's
- 34:24no Omega here in this building called Esoteric Tronics. That
- 34:27I've been firing children at the wall for the past
- 34:31thirteen years.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Every single room there's this baby's flyer.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Ooh wo, these babies keep dying. God damn it. What
- 34:48will it be enough? Yeah, we need more babies.
- 34:52Speaker 2: The general inserted my key card into a slot beside
- 34:55the door, which unlocked with a hiss and swung open.
- 34:58Side of the room was a series of computers with
- 35:00men and women sitting at them, working dilligently across the
- 35:03room instead of elevator doors, waited me.
- 35:06Speaker 1: You'll be working alongside these men and women here when
- 35:08it comes to contacting us with project updates. Through the elevator,
- 35:12you'll find an access to sub levels three through eleven.
- 35:16Go ahead and head down to your lab and you'll
- 35:18be briefed by your colleagues. Your office is just there, and.
- 35:22Speaker 2: He pointed to another door which now had my name
- 35:24on it. I walked up to the office door and
- 35:26opened it. Scent of oranges and pine needles wafted out
- 35:29of the office, which seemed old and unused. When I
- 35:33closed the door again, the glass rattled slightly. I could
- 35:36see that the lettering used to spell my last name
- 35:38was much older than the lettering used to spell my
- 35:41first and I could also see the outlines of residue
- 35:44in the shapes of letters spelling my father's name underneath it.
- 35:47Speaker 1: Do you think he's just being tested on?
- 35:50Speaker 2: Uh?
- 35:51Speaker 4: No.
- 35:51Speaker 2: I think the idea was that he thought his father
- 35:54would stay at home, didn't have a job, but he
- 35:56was actually part of this program. Wow. Flash forward a
- 35:59year and I it's no closer to a solution to
- 36:01this problem than I was infancy mortality issues. You gotta quit.
- 36:09Speaker 7: The babies won't stop falling. Damnute baby, damn you hell.
- 36:21Speaker 2: No matter what I tried, what combination of elements were used,
- 36:25or methods of cooling helium, still seemed like the best option.
- 36:29Left the office. On a cool spring night, air damp
- 36:32from recent reign, drove home to my two bedroom apartment
- 36:35I shared with the lane. My wonderful world greeted me
- 36:38as I came into the living room, slipping off my
- 36:41shoes and sinking into the couch. She sat down beside
- 36:44me and curled up to me, stroking my face tenderly
- 36:46as it let out along sigh, and press my fingers
- 36:48to my temples. Rough day, she asked. I nodded, Well,
- 36:54tell me about.
- 36:55Speaker 1: It, not particularly, It's just that we're no damn closer
- 36:58to a solution now than a year ago.
- 37:00Speaker 2: I stroked my chest, now almost nervously.
- 37:02Speaker 1: Well, I have some exciting news.
- 37:05Speaker 2: It looked up, and she reached behind her, slowly pulling
- 37:10h oh. She reached behind her, slowly pulling out a
- 37:24pregnancy test. My eyes honed in on the blue shade
- 37:27of the tip. I stammered over my words.
- 37:30Speaker 1: What wait are we we I'm gonna be a dad.
- 37:36Speaker 2: She nodded her head excitedly, and I wrapped her up
- 37:39in my arms and I jumped off the couch, picking
- 37:41her up and dancing around.
- 37:45Speaker 1: This baby's guy. I hate to say that this baby
- 37:48is fucking dead.
- 37:49Speaker 2: Dude.
- 37:50Speaker 1: It's such a bummer. It's such a bummer to be like,
- 37:53we're so happy just to know. I'm like, there's no
- 37:56fucking way in hell that baby's lancing.
- 38:01Speaker 2: Mortality.
- 38:04Speaker 1: They've mentioned mortality rates far, far too often to have
- 38:11any kind of to have any kind of hope that
- 38:13this baby's gonna make it to fucking do Yeah, right, bro,
- 38:17God to introduce you to my sling shot.
- 38:24Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I was gonna make a joke about
- 38:26how that the story now enters an interesting moral complexity,
- 38:30because it's like, you know, his whole career is sling
- 38:32shot in babies, but now that he has one of
- 38:35his own, will he be able to put it in
- 38:37a sling shot.
- 38:39Speaker 1: I think what's gonna happen if I could try to
- 38:41set my own bear trap, is that the.
- 38:43Speaker 2: Dad which, by the way, by the way bear trap
- 38:46with the baby dyed thing. I know the story brought
- 38:48it up, but it's mine. It's mine now, so that's fine.
- 38:52Speaker 1: The uh, I think that we're heading in an area
- 38:55where the dad tested on something on the the main
- 39:00character when he was a baby, and it's getting ready
- 39:02to be like, uh, you know, like the cycle continues
- 39:05kind of thing.
- 39:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 39:07Speaker 1: I don't know what that experiment is, but I do
- 39:09think that it's like a generational kind of meme.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so that that's why he's able
- 39:14to see it, and I think all of his kids
- 39:16it's probably why his sister and brother are so messed up.
- 39:19Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all they're older than him or no, his
- 39:22sister was five years younger than him, right.
- 39:24Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think they are old, but I think
- 39:26all of them have been experimented on. We kissed deeply
- 39:28and went to the bedroom to celebrate that night. For
- 39:31the first time in the year, I dreamed. In the dream,
- 39:35I was floating once again in that black room where
- 39:37only a sliver of light could be seen. This time,
- 39:40there are no figures moving in the light beyond. The
- 39:43light began to fade. Soon I was enveloped in nothing
- 39:46but a pitch black darkness. So if I shut my
- 39:50eyes tightly in the void, I could see small dots,
- 39:54no clusters of dots, the rings rotating around them, and
- 39:58each ring containing its own dots. I recognized these as atoms,
- 40:03so dots floated freely above my head. I counted the
- 40:06electrons around me, floated atoms of lanithm, aerium, copper, and oxygen.
- 40:14Soon the metal atoms would dance around me, combining in
- 40:18pairs with the oxygen ones to form powders and solids.
- 40:22Then fire, blazing hot from underneath, as if a portal
- 40:26to hell. It opened up and I could feel the
- 40:29flames licked me from underneath. It came, and it burned
- 40:33everything around me, until all at once it disappeared. What
- 40:38was left was a shiny, black, floating disk of a
- 40:41nanthetom barium copper oxide, perfect material for my problems. A
- 40:46superconductor capable of handling the heat of hell. Woke up
- 40:50in a sweat with a lameb beside me, and jumped
- 40:51out of bed, which garnered a groggy response from l
- 40:55So excited I didn't even recognize that all too familiar
- 40:58smell in the air, I ran into the living room
- 41:01and dragged out a blackboard, where I hastily wrote down
- 41:03the formula of this new inorganic compound cee U BA
- 41:09zero fifteen LA one point eight five oxygen four. But
- 41:14you have a one point a point whatever. I sketched
- 41:18out the structure and stepped back to look at my work. Yes,
- 41:21this was it, the solution to my problems. I quickly
- 41:25went over to the phone and began to dial the
- 41:27number to the lab before a clock on the stove
- 41:30caught my eye. It was only three am. No one
- 41:33was even awake or there right now. I couldn't sleep.
- 41:36When Alane woke up around five, she came to the
- 41:38living room where I had sat staring at the blackboard
- 41:40the entire time. Richard I smiled at.
- 41:44Speaker 1: Her, Elayne, this is it the solution to the.
- 41:48Speaker 2: Heat point eagerly at the blackboard, which she glanced at
- 41:51and gave me a groggy thumbs up before going back
- 41:53to the bathroom. Another hour passed and Elaine left to
- 41:56go to the hospital she worked at as a nurse
- 41:58on base in Maryland. Finally I was able to get
- 42:01ready and head out myself for the lab. I was
- 42:03so eager to share my discovery that I had to
- 42:05drive back ten minutes in and get my key card.
- 42:08When I got to the lab, I could hardly contain myself.
- 42:11I entered the supply closet and revealed my findings to
- 42:14my colleagues and team of workers, who relaid the information
- 42:18of the General. It was a few hours later when
- 42:20he would arrive, coming down to the eleven sub level
- 42:22and into the lab.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Richard, good news I hear.
- 42:26Speaker 2: He opened his arms wide and then came in to
- 42:27shake my hand. His grip was tied on my hand.
- 42:31Speaker 1: Yes, sir, very very good news.
- 42:34Speaker 2: A breakthrough, said excitedly, clasping the open hand and shaking it.
- 42:38Speaker 1: I've discovered the key to our heating problem. This is wonderful, son.
- 42:42Tell me how'd you do it? Sir? That's the funniest
- 42:46thing about it. It was a dream.
- 42:48Speaker 2: Actually caught a glance between the General and one of
- 42:50my colleagues, followed by a small nod. Then he turned
- 42:53his gaze back to me.
- 42:55Speaker 1: Walk with me, son.
- 42:56Speaker 2: I did as I was told and fell into step
- 42:58beside the General. We approached the elevator, the doors open
- 43:02and we stepped inside. So the doors were shut. But
- 43:05the second time of my time here some men entering
- 43:08the lab to take things out.
- 43:09Speaker 1: Sir, what do you know about your father's? Son?
- 43:13Speaker 2: Stared at him and stunned silence, before asking quietly, my father.
- 43:17The elevator lurched and its doors opened. We couldn't have
- 43:21gone farther than a floor or two.
- 43:23Speaker 1: Yes, son, your father, I understand he was a stay
- 43:27at home father for most of your life. What do
- 43:29you know about before your life?
- 43:30Speaker 2: I raked my memory for stories about him before me
- 43:33being born, only to be slightly shocked. I knew absolutely nothing.
- 43:37I responded as much, and the General nodded.
- 43:40Speaker 1: I suspect that they keep it quiet. It was their duty,
- 43:43after all.
- 43:44Speaker 2: He stepped out into an enormous room with computer towers
- 43:47and monitors active, all of them stationed by men in
- 43:50radiation suits. Two of the men got up and brought
- 43:53us suits of our own. General indicated for me to
- 43:57suit up, and I did. Looked at one of the men's.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Make sure all that info from upstairs gets out to ibm'.
- 44:05They'll know what to do with it.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Man nodded, got on the elevator and send it. Strode
- 44:08over to some consoles, which showed on its black screen
- 44:11and dots surrounded by interlocking rings, each ring itself containing
- 44:15multiple dots and adam, sir, the General chuckled, Well, kind of,
- 44:20but no.
- 44:21Speaker 1: We walked to a.
- 44:22Speaker 2: Door on the far side of the room and entered
- 44:23a hallway which shot out for a few hundred feet
- 44:26before turning sharply to the right.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Your father worked here, I'm sure you noticed by the door.
- 44:31In the late thirties and early forties. He worked on
- 44:34a top secret project. You know it as the Manhattan Project.
- 44:39Down here, we just called it another part of Project Gabriel,
- 44:42as we will with your superconductors. Unofficially, officially, that information
- 44:48is on its way to IBM.
- 44:50Speaker 2: I know it's saying like I was a part of
- 44:52a greater test, but that's just funny that it's like, yeah,
- 44:57to me, the Manhattan Project is just another project. That's
- 45:00what it's like in this sick and twisted mind of mine.
- 45:04Still remained silent until we neared the corner. But why,
- 45:08sir he stopped. Just before the corner, The General turned
- 45:12to look at me directly, sizing me up and down.
- 45:15Speaker 1: So what you're about to see is highly classified. With
- 45:19your dream and this new information you brought us, I
- 45:22think it's finally time to let you in on this project.
- 45:25Speaker 2: Turn the corner to yet another hallway, this time a
- 45:28single door lay on the right side of it. All
- 45:30the way at the end. There's no light coming from
- 45:33under end, and a feeling in my stomach like waves
- 45:36against the bow of a ship hit me hard. My
- 45:39legs felt like iron as I dragged them along after
- 45:41the General. The door at the very end of the
- 45:44hall had a key hat to its side, and the
- 45:46General stepped in between me and the path to enter
- 45:48a cone. With a green flash of light and a
- 45:52very loud thud noise, the door hissed its one open.
- 45:55Inside lights began to cut on one by one, revealing
- 45:59and even more enormous room than the first. In the middle.
- 46:03My eyes finally saw it. My jaw fell open and
- 46:06I sank to the ground. General just stood there, arms crossed.
- 46:11Speaker 1: Some This is Project Gabriel.
- 46:14Speaker 2: The center of the rooms to spend a midair by
- 46:16some sort of electromagnetic energy field being propelled by several
- 46:20giant of citty in colored panl in the center of
- 46:22the room, suspind a midair by some sort of electromagnetic
- 46:26energy field being propelled by several giant city and colored pillars.
- 46:31So tarnished set of interlocking rings, upon each of which
- 46:34had dozens of bloodshot eyes. Oh it's an angel. They
- 46:38have an angel inside of inside of electromagnetic prison. At
- 46:45its center, a ball of hot energetic plasma was cracking
- 46:48and spitting electricity to contact the field around it and dissipate.
- 46:53Speaker 1: My god, what is that thing?
- 46:57Speaker 2: The General put a hand on my shoulder and shook
- 47:00to me to stand up.
- 47:01Speaker 1: According did it's the angel?
- 47:04Speaker 2: Gabriel looked on in horror at this tortured bean. What
- 47:13General walked closer to the obelisk on the far right,
- 47:15which had wires coiled around in space leading to a console.
- 47:19General typed something in and then stood back as crackling
- 47:22beams of plasma shot from the obelisk and into the
- 47:24center of the angel let out the most unearthly wail
- 47:27of agony, a well that pierced my brain and caused
- 47:30it to rattle on my skull. I grabbed my head
- 47:33and fell once again to the ground.
- 47:36Speaker 1: Stop stop it.
- 47:38Speaker 2: The General came to my side and helps me up
- 47:40to my feet.
- 47:41Speaker 1: Hmmm, sorry, I had to be sure. You see, Richard,
- 47:44you are special. Your fallow was special.
- 47:47Speaker 4: Two.
- 47:48Speaker 1: You can understand communicate with the angels. We don't should
- 47:53Why we don't know why only some people can, and
- 47:56why some people seem entirely removed from them. We suspect
- 48:00it has something to do with bloodlines dating back to
- 48:03the very oldest peoples. We know more only well, No
- 48:07matter the pain we inflict, Gabriel won't reveal all his secrets.
- 48:11Speaker 2: Swayed on my feet. The pain in my head dined
- 48:13down by remaining present.
- 48:15Speaker 1: But why why do this?
- 48:17Speaker 2: The general looked at me with a straight and unfeeling
- 48:20face as he answered.
- 48:21Speaker 1: Because we were losing the war, Son, we were losing
- 48:24the war, and Germany was going to bring about the
- 48:27Book of Revelations, he told.
- 48:30Speaker 2: Us, pointed out the angel.
- 48:32Speaker 1: Now, he came to your father one night and told
- 48:34him of the impending end of the war, and that
- 48:37soon your father would be then, and that soon your
- 48:40father would impregnate your mother with the second coming of Christ,
- 48:43who would grow to lead the Christians in a movement
- 48:45called the Rapture, a mass exodus to the last livable
- 48:49place on the planet. There, God would come and give
- 48:53us the tools to start again to make a heaven
- 48:55on earth.
- 48:56Speaker 2: The general just cracked out of his mind.
- 49:01Speaker 1: You are Jesus, Are you serious? That's awesome?
- 49:07Speaker 4: What me?
- 49:09Speaker 2: Wow, I'm Jesus.
- 49:11Speaker 1: Are you saying that? I'm Jesus Christ.
- 49:14Speaker 2: Mean meanwhile, the Angel's like, ah.
- 49:17Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, why don't think I took it if
- 49:24you had an angel there?
- 49:26Speaker 2: I love I like how.
- 49:27Speaker 1: I like how the angel flew up one day, his
- 49:29big stupid fucking eyes floating around.
- 49:31Speaker 3: He's like heard more seriously by the way, Hitler's gonna
- 49:34blow up the world.
- 49:34Speaker 6: And they're like in prison that thing, They're like, lock
- 49:40it away.
- 49:42Speaker 2: Yeah, like it came down to visit him and they
- 49:44all jumped on him to hold it down, like quick, quick,
- 49:47put it in the time prison put it. And then
- 49:58immediately the general is like, yeah, your father impregnated your mother,
- 50:02brought about.
- 50:06Speaker 1: Father, totally filled your mom.
- 50:09Speaker 2: Up and got okay, no, no, no, yeah, you're you're
- 50:16the main character.
- 50:16Speaker 1: Now you don't have to No seriously.
- 50:20Speaker 2: No, you don't need to. I get it. I understand
- 50:22how that works.
- 50:23Speaker 1: I how funny. How funny would it be? Like why
- 50:27do you think it was? Do you ever think it
- 50:28was weird that you were born with a beard?
- 50:31Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like he's just like that explains how
- 50:33I always walk on water or.
- 50:38Speaker 1: You thought it was stranger you have holes in your
- 50:40hands and feet, and that you were born with a beard.
- 50:43Well they just said I was They just said it
- 50:44was a birth defect. No, your Jesus Christ.
- 50:50Speaker 2: Yeah, the entire story. He's he's wore like the purple
- 50:54sash and like the white and he's.
- 50:57Speaker 1: Like wow, the white rub and everything, and he's just like,
- 50:59I can't if I got a job at.
- 51:01Speaker 2: T O all right, and they've imprisoned the angel gay
- 51:12role apparently yep. Also the angel was like, hey, you
- 51:16guys should probably stop Hitler and then they caught him.
- 51:19Speaker 1: I mean, it's like that what I mean to say,
- 51:24like he came up and he's.
- 51:25Speaker 3: Like totally guy's girl like up the world or something like.
- 51:30Speaker 1: He's like he's like giving him like a kind of
- 51:32a cool heads up and they're like that sounds good. Shot,
- 51:37Like what why why do this?
- 51:42Speaker 2: It's like, uh huh yeah, tell me war and behind
- 51:44that crazy they have a frying pan that they're.
- 51:50Speaker 1: The uh uh yeah, what you know. It's just kind
- 51:58of weird. It's like, I mean, they're we're probably getting this,
- 52:00but it's like it's not even like they're trying to
- 52:02harness his power.
- 52:04Speaker 3: The guy literally just flew in and he was like,
- 52:06mo no, circially, seriously, you should like waltch out because
- 52:10it's gonna be.
- 52:11Speaker 1: Crazy, because he's just like why why do this? Because
- 52:14we were losing the war, and it's just like, well,
- 52:16all he did was tell you that Hitler was going
- 52:18to blow up the FU.
- 52:20Speaker 2: I assume what it's saying, because they're like Project Mandhattan
- 52:23was just a part of Project to Gabriel, I assume
- 52:26they used to energy that they gave the Americans the
- 52:30ability to create nuclear weapons. I think is what's being implied.
- 52:35The look on my face was pure incredulity. Despite the evidence,
- 52:40your father, the diligent soldier he was, came to me
- 52:45and reported what he had been told.
- 52:47Speaker 1: We couldn't allow that. So we scoured ancient text and
- 52:51we found a way to the trap, and we found
- 52:53a way to trap Gabriel. They looked, they looked at
- 53:03they looked at some like old scrolls. They saw a
- 53:05giant butterfly net. Of course.
- 53:11Speaker 2: The dad would have stood underneath. The dad stood underneath
- 53:21a giant cardboard box with a stick propping it up, Like.
- 53:27Speaker 1: I can't game gamebra can't hear you?
- 53:30Speaker 2: Keep him over here, closer.
- 53:35Speaker 1: It's not just came here. I got you gotta.
- 53:39Speaker 2: Right next to the box. They have a giant spinning
- 53:44frying as soon as the box drop just sleep.
- 53:59Speaker 1: So so we scoured ancient texts and we found a
- 54:03way to trap Gabriel.
- 54:05Speaker 2: Your father called to him, and as you can see,
- 54:08he game glancing back. I could see you. Bloodshot eye
- 54:12was on me now, staring as if asking pleading for help.
- 54:16I looked back at the general.
- 54:18Speaker 1: Gabriel here gave us the secrets to crack in the
- 54:21anomal open. He gave us the power of God himself.
- 54:25He gave us the language of God.
- 54:28Speaker 2: It was that he walked over to and gently patted
- 54:30the monitor by the obelisk.
- 54:32Speaker 1: Microchips processes the etchings on the boards sigils of the heavens,
- 54:39designed to move and control energy to manipulate God's power.
- 54:43Speaker 2: I think I've talked about that on this show before.
- 54:46Right now, people like, we'll make that connection that microchips
- 54:49look like ancient sigils, like they are entrapping supernatural powers,
- 54:54and that's how they work. I think I've talked about
- 54:55that before. Cool concept definitely cool. There's also some of
- 54:58our stuff in here. Yeah, I'm picking up on just
- 55:00a lot of information happening at once. Like we believe
- 55:03that people that can speak to Gabriel dates back to
- 55:06ancient times, so that's likely in reference to the nephel
- 55:09M right, half human half angel hybrids. Those are something
- 55:14we saw on Mother Horse Eyes, another adaptation of that idea.
- 55:18And then there's stuff like will lead us. There's going
- 55:23to be a rapture, but we need a new Jesus
- 55:26to lead us. But then the quote unquote Christ figure
- 55:29that appears around the time of the rapture is actually
- 55:31the Antichrist, so perhaps it's a negative instead of a positive.
- 55:35But like I said, there's just a lot being divulged
- 55:38at once. In a flash, I recalled my dream during
- 55:40my time in the war dark room, my father's face
- 55:44pleading and apologizing.
- 55:46Speaker 1: He he tried to stop you to free Gabriel.
- 55:52Speaker 2: General looked at me with a raised brow.
- 55:55Speaker 1: So we did tell you something. I dreamed it in
- 55:58Vietnam before my thought died. The General nodded, I see, yeah,
- 56:07your father became quite the others autistic. Sorry, I see
- 56:21I see yes, your father became quite the altruist at
- 56:25some point decided what we were doing here was an
- 56:28ethical disturbed. He tried to make a case saying, how
- 56:32we won the war, we diverted the rapture and stopped
- 56:35the end of our world A fool start. How could
- 56:39he know that maybe we only delayed it? And then
- 56:42if we and if even if we did avoid it,
- 56:44there was so much more Gabriel had to tell us,
- 56:46still has to.
- 56:48Speaker 2: Tell us the giant butterfly that people puffed out my
- 56:52chest to finally, now my father's son.
- 56:55Speaker 1: No, this has to stop. General This is wrong. You
- 57:01know it, I know it. Do you know what evil
- 57:04you're bringing down on this world? What if? God, Son?
- 57:09God is dad? Abril himself told another dreamer we used
- 57:16to have under our thumb. She was so in tune
- 57:20that she could sit in this very room for hours
- 57:22alone with him and bring back so much information, Only
- 57:26none of it was particularly useful, so we got her loose.
- 57:32He says that, he says that you should always like,
- 57:35you should always like take meat out of the freezer
- 57:37and put it in the refrigerator if you want to
- 57:38talk to the frost properly, God damn it. Gabriel we
- 57:41already know that. He says that hot wheels are a
- 57:45lot better than matchbox cars. Okay, all right, we have
- 57:49got to find someone. We gotta find somebody.
- 57:51Speaker 2: New, he says. Gabriel says, be sure to check your
- 57:55credit history before you apply, because if you do it
- 57:58at the application, there could be smonth sing things and yeah,
- 58:02trust the company.
- 58:02Speaker 1: So Gabriel says, to always ask the car dealership for
- 58:06the carfax and the car before I actually buy it.
- 58:10And Gabriel said. Simon says, is Uh is a little
- 58:14better than Bopit, but he says he likes to play
- 58:17both like she's the because it's obviously a sister, right
- 58:22right right. That's so it's like it's like sisters sitting
- 58:25there in for like seventeen hours just having this. Yeah,
- 58:28Gabriel says that. Gabriel said that his favorite comedy of
- 58:30all times Kung Powell. Like they're like, what about is
- 58:37there anything cool with like Selving cancer? Let me ask no, no,
- 58:45nothing about that.
- 58:49Speaker 2: But he does have Bopit. He does have it if
- 58:51we want to play that.
- 58:52Speaker 1: But he does. He does have a pretty killer streak
- 58:54on Bopit.
- 58:55Speaker 2: God damn you. I like the the idea that as
- 59:00soon as sharing got out, she's like, well, it's probably
- 59:01overdose now, it's probably all I got left going?
- 59:04Speaker 1: Or was it? Or was it the existential crisis of
- 59:08being like, God's dead. I can't handle it, so I'm
- 59:11just gonna fucking get high.
- 59:12Speaker 2: Yeah. But if you don't trust anything they're saying, and
- 59:14they don't have good info, then why would you trust
- 59:16the God is Dad thing?
- 59:19Speaker 1: I thought? Because she said Gabriel said that, that's what
- 59:22that's what he said. Is that not what Gabriel said?
- 59:25Speaker 2: Oh? Oh yeah, Gabriel's giving her good info. It's just
- 59:28not useful to them.
- 59:30Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's like sitting there, He's like, no, seriously,
- 59:32Like the best way to do mac and cheese is
- 59:35to bake it in the oven and have like a
- 59:37little Christie layer on top. Also, God's dead. You also
- 59:39want to figure out that, Like when you're red in
- 59:42your lawn? Hey, why is that last part? When you
- 59:46received your lawn, you are, oh, yeah, God, he's been dead.
- 59:50He's dead.
- 59:50Speaker 2: He's gone. Yeah, he's been gone a long.
- 59:52Speaker 1: Why do you think I'm down here? You know, I mean,
- 59:54what do you think I'm doing?
- 59:56Speaker 2: What?
- 59:56Speaker 1: What?
- 59:57Speaker 2: Why do you think I'm stuck inside of this box.
- 1:00:00Do you think that that would happen otherwise? Flashes in
- 1:00:05my mind and my baby sister sitting here in the
- 1:00:07dark with the angel before her. Sharon General simply stared
- 1:00:12back and then said.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: Correct, she threatened to tell on us, so we did.
- 1:00:22She threatened to tell on us. Is such a funny line. Correct,
- 1:00:26she threatened to tell on us, so we did what
- 1:00:30had to be done. Unlike your father, she had no family.
- 1:00:33We could threaten to keep her in line.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: I like the idea that, like a local beat cop
- 1:00:38could take down the government angel operation.
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: Hey, so my job at Esoterictronics, they have a giant
- 1:00:45angel down there to talk to me about bop it
- 1:00:47and receiving my lawn. Uh okay.
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: I also like because they said that the way they
- 1:00:54started this program is his father, who was already working
- 1:00:57for the government, came to them and was like, hey,
- 1:01:00an angel told me we have to stop Hitler. And
- 1:01:02they they didn't just like fire him, they were like, really,
- 1:01:08imagine they think it's fake the whole time, and then
- 1:01:11they get him there and the angel actually shows up
- 1:01:13and they're.
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: Like, oh, Mark, is there a way that this connection
- 1:01:16with Joseph Smith at all, because does this not read
- 1:01:19like Joseph Smith.
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: Yeah, look you can get I take enough flack from
- 1:01:25the Mormons. All right, if you want to start a
- 1:01:26fight there you go right ahead.
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: I'm just saying that Joseph Smith, he talked to the
- 1:01:31angels like that. I didn't I that was a legitimate question.
- 1:01:35Could we know? I was just wondering.
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: I thought I thought Joseph Smith talked. Well, okay, yeah,
- 1:01:41sure you know, buddy, this is the Joseph Smith story.
- 1:01:44Just for you. Better be careful making jokes like that.
- 1:01:47Then okay, cut that, God that.
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: From That's a historic moment, that's a historic mode. That's
- 1:02:01the first time you've ever at you've ever had a
- 1:02:03spastic cut that cut that.
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: Or bleeve that or do something? Do not believe that?
- 1:02:10In the episode, the rush of heat to my head
- 1:02:13overwhelmed me, and I rushed the general in anger. I
- 1:02:16didn't think first, I could only act. Beside stepped and
- 1:02:19I rushed past him the field of electromagnetic energy, which
- 1:02:22reacted violently. Time seemed slow. As the rotating rings beyond
- 1:02:27me came to a near halt, A booming voice within
- 1:02:30my head echoed out Suddenly time returned to me and
- 1:02:39I was ejected outwards, back onto the floor. General shook
- 1:02:42his head.
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: No, son, please, let's be pragmatic and reasonable, shall we.
- 1:02:48You do have a family. You wouldn't want anything to
- 1:02:51happen to your lovely wife and soon to be baby, now,
- 1:02:54would you?
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: I froze, How did he know about the baby? It's
- 1:02:59my house wired, they surveilling me. Stood to my feet,
- 1:03:03shaken to my very core.
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: You sick, bastardly leave them alone. Then work with us, son,
- 1:03:10work with us. Think of all the discoveries to be made,
- 1:03:13the advancement for humanity.
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: I rocked back and forth, Woozy looked again into Gabriel,
- 1:03:18whose eyes bore sadness and pain. I could scarcely imagine
- 1:03:23decades of torture, unnatural capture, decades more to come. No,
- 1:03:28I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't condemn this being to
- 1:03:31an eternity of torment. I couldn't. I stood tall with
- 1:03:34the false bravado.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: Well, I've never been a very religious man.
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: General smiled warmly, and then I replied, but I won't
- 1:03:43let you do this, small faded turn it into a
- 1:03:46grimace of annoyance. I made a run for the consoles,
- 1:03:49this time aiming to smash it or grab the wiring. Suddenly,
- 1:03:52a gunshot rang out, going through the chamber. Warm blood
- 1:03:56red down my back and chest. Looked down to see
- 1:03:58a bullet hole directly through me. I clutched my chest
- 1:04:01to turn slowly, gurgling and coughing up blood, expecting to
- 1:04:05see the culprit of my death. The General stood, their
- 1:04:08arms folded behind his back, with a look of disappointment.
- 1:04:11I swiveled my head around, and there at the door
- 1:04:13was a laying pistol in hand, no tear in her eye.
- 1:04:17I filled to the floor, no air in my lungs
- 1:04:19to protest her inquire. I heard the sound of her
- 1:04:22footsteps as she walked up to the general side.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: Too bad, he didn't agree, Daddy.
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: The General nodded, yes, well, we always have the backup,
- 1:04:35and he placed his hand on her stomach. Don't worry,
- 1:04:39I got pregnant by Jesus, so now I will have
- 1:04:42Jesus two or three Jesus backup Jesus. As I lay there,
- 1:04:49I listened to the raspy breath escape from my lungs.
- 1:04:52I was dying, no doubt about it. I really wasn't
- 1:04:55a very religious man, and I offered no prayer to
- 1:04:57God in my end. Despite this, as I lay there,
- 1:05:00life fading away, I could see the bride and warm
- 1:05:02light at the end of the tunnel black they stood,
- 1:05:05my father, smile on his face with the hand extended,
- 1:05:08my mother and sister at his side. It's why'd ever
- 1:05:10being a religious man? I was going home.
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: And that's the end.
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: That's the end. So I I like the concept. I
- 1:05:22don't really know isotopes come into it, I guess cuz
- 1:05:26I guess it's kind of drawing that Adams looked like
- 1:05:30biblically accurate angels, which is a cool concept. And it
- 1:05:32brings up the thing that I like about, like circuitry
- 1:05:35being sigils and stuff like that, or runes.
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: Yeah, the microchip thing.
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: Yeah, the microchip thing.
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: I like all that.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: I like the stuff about an angel being imprisoned, and
- 1:05:49like I like the details about the family when it
- 1:05:51was kind of a mystery as to what they were
- 1:05:53writing about, what the burned hole in the ceiling means,
- 1:05:55how they're able to communicate with each other.
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: All that was interesting.
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: I felt like it got bogged down with a lot
- 1:06:00of the like general details. A lot of the exposition
- 1:06:03at the end, like the things about him being Jesus
- 1:06:05never came into play. Amazingly, the infant mortality never came
- 1:06:09into play either. That didn't ye pulled up like that
- 1:06:13just got brought up. A lot didn't go anywhere.
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: The only thing I get, the one thing I can
- 1:06:16think is that do you think.
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: That rapture never came up? Stuff like that?
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: So do you think that the infant the infantile mortality
- 1:06:24rate thing. Do you think that was at all linked
- 1:06:26into us supposed to be like uh, that they have
- 1:06:31tried to bring back like the Second Coming of Christ before,
- 1:06:34but they keep dying or something, you know, like.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: So they it sounded like he was trying to solve
- 1:06:39the cure to like sids like such.
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: Wells, I mean I thought that it was something like
- 1:06:44that too. I'm just just you know, food for thought.
- 1:06:48I'm trying to see how it ties in, because there's
- 1:06:50a lot of themes that tie in. Do you have
- 1:06:53like the capturing the angel the problem? I think that
- 1:06:56like my biggest stipulation with it is that the general
- 1:06:59it's just when someone is so overtly evil and the
- 1:07:02motive just seems so just kind of silly. It's just
- 1:07:07it's like the sheriff in Broska. I wouldn't say it's
- 1:07:09as you know, bombastic and fucking crazy as that, but
- 1:07:13it is this thing where it's just like as this
- 1:07:15angel came down and wounded us about Hitler, so we
- 1:07:18captured him, and it's like, I get man is inherently evil,
- 1:07:21but I guess I just wish that there was more
- 1:07:23like the idea of like, well, he has so many
- 1:07:25secrets to tell us. I think that like that's I
- 1:07:29think that's fair. I just I don't know, I just
- 1:07:31I guess it just wasn't totally bought in on that,
- 1:07:33and that like kind of like crazy motive. And then
- 1:07:36then and then this idea of like well you know what,
- 1:07:40I'm I won't do it, I'm going to stop you whatever,
- 1:07:43and then you can just get shot. And that's just
- 1:07:46kind of the ending. I like. I I guess just
- 1:07:49like if you're introducing that thing, it'd be nice to
- 1:07:51have him just kind of play around with it more.
- 1:07:54It was just kind of very quick, I guess, you
- 1:07:55know what I mean.
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: It's a lot to take in, very a lot of it,
- 1:07:59A lot of it, given more time, I think would
- 1:08:00do better. I think maybe instead of the general explaining
- 1:08:04a lot of those things at the end, they like,
- 1:08:07you know, since our main character is a scientist, he
- 1:08:09can kind of figure stuff out as he goes a bit.
- 1:08:11Vietnam didn't even really factor in to the story like
- 1:08:15I thought it would. Maybe maybe he had some experience
- 1:08:17or vision in Vietnam that related to combat or something
- 1:08:20that like I thought father's visions of World War two
- 1:08:24perhaps or something like that.
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing that I think was supposed to
- 1:08:29be there. The only thing that I think that Vietnam
- 1:08:31helps with is that it's just the parallels with his
- 1:08:33father of like I think his dad was like active
- 1:08:36during World War two or whatever. But then also I'm
- 1:08:39wondering if, like, oh, because he had this military job,
- 1:08:42if that's literally a justification to why he would get
- 1:08:45this government job. Yeah, you know, yeah, being like, well,
- 1:08:50I don't know, I just I got hired because like,
- 1:08:52maybe that's just.
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: Because my mom's a politician, which didn't really come into
- 1:08:56except for mentioning maybe that because his dad was in
- 1:08:59the program, his mom was given political favor maybe. But
- 1:09:05I also don't think you need the ending where he's
- 1:09:06going to heaven and seeing everyone I go, also him
- 1:09:09being like I'm not a religious man. It's like, you
- 1:09:11have undeniable evidence of the supernatural and God you're looking
- 1:09:14at an angel, so maybe you become to that really
- 1:09:16quick at once.
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of good elements. I think
- 1:09:23if you cut a lot of the fat and use
- 1:09:27that time to expand more on stuff the general reveals
- 1:09:30at the end, so it comes more natural and isn't
- 1:09:32dumped all at once, I think they would read more
- 1:09:34naturally because I like the concept of like humanity imprisoned
- 1:09:37an angel, which is actually a concept in an arg
- 1:09:41that's been floating around essay Ergy a YouTube series that's
- 1:09:45been floating around called Angel Engine that is about a
- 1:09:50group of scientists that imprison an angel and use it
- 1:09:54to try to make like a perpetual energy system and
- 1:09:58like it's about heaven. Like I haven't watched it, and
- 1:10:03I'm not that big of a fan of it because
- 1:10:06all the art for its ai, which I think is
- 1:10:08really lame and dumb, but the concept of it is interesting,
- 1:10:13the idea of humanity and prisoning an angel, and then
- 1:10:15like the supernatural War behind the scenes, which I saw.
- 1:10:20I was listening to one YouTuber talk about it, and
- 1:10:23he raised the point that maybe it's actually kind of
- 1:10:27smart in a medicense because the series is about like
- 1:10:32humanity imprisoning a power they can't understand to try to
- 1:10:36get things that they want, and it's using AI. So
- 1:10:39maybe it's like a statement about AI because it doesn't
- 1:10:42but it doesn't directly critique AI. And the whole thing's
- 1:10:45like made itself off of AI, so that may just
- 1:10:48be accidental like irony, you know.
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: But anyway, I mean, I dot it. I doubt it
- 1:10:53has that many metal layers behind it. I think that
- 1:10:56this story though I like the like I agree. I
- 1:10:59like the idea of the you know, capturing a spiritual
- 1:11:04essence and that has like that's the thing that's been
- 1:11:07like progressing technology and all this other stuff forward for
- 1:11:10the past like one hundred years or decades or whatever,
- 1:11:12you know, and.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: The U.
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: Or the decade it is only the forties or the eighties.
- 1:11:18But uh, I tell you, I like that Elaine is
- 1:11:23in on it. I think that I just I think
- 1:11:26to do something that makes it feel satisfying because her
- 1:11:29coming in it's just like there's a bunch of kind
- 1:11:32of cheesy things where you come in it's like, oh,
- 1:11:34my wife is here, and it's like sorry, daddy, I
- 1:11:36guess you know he's he's a fucking idiot, and he's like, yeah, okay,
- 1:11:41what do I we have all that? I think like
- 1:11:45it would have been interesting if he's like stressed, and
- 1:11:47if she would have made a really big emphasis on
- 1:11:49like reproduct, like being like we need to have a kid,
- 1:11:54like we need to have a kid, like putting a
- 1:11:56big emphasis on that, to where you could have developed
- 1:11:59some of that kind of like weird uh, just kind
- 1:12:04of like some of the things in the background to
- 1:12:05where if you reread it or you're like, oh fuck,
- 1:12:07that's why she was being so pushy with this or whatever.
- 1:12:10I think there's a lot of ways that you can
- 1:12:11get that going. Also, I think you could have had
- 1:12:13Gabriel trying to talk to you or something. You work
- 1:12:16at this job and you're getting all these signs and
- 1:12:18these different things. I'm still wondering where like the orange
- 1:12:22sent came in. Remember they kept putting like an emphasis
- 1:12:24on the.
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: Orange and pine. Yeah, the orange and pine. Maybe you
- 1:12:29could connect that back to some memory he has or
- 1:12:31some visual because again, the mystery phase was the best
- 1:12:34part of it, and which.
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: Is you know, that's that's the best phase of any
- 1:12:40of any story, is the discovery or you know, the
- 1:12:42adventure of everything of like basically just all these clues
- 1:12:46being left around for you and stuff. It just felt
- 1:12:50like a bunch of pieces that just a lot of
- 1:12:53loose ends that just didn't really feel like they came
- 1:12:55together once again, though, I think that that's it's pretty fun. Also,
- 1:12:58I mean, did you like the fact that it was
- 1:13:00an actual angel? You know what I mean?
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: Like, couldn't could it have been something where it's like
- 1:13:08what they thought was if the story was about that,
- 1:13:12then that'd be fine. I think, like Angel Engine, if
- 1:13:14it was about humanity imprisoning an angel, but where it's
- 1:13:17kind of like set dressing amidst everything, it's like, well,
- 1:13:22how did they imprison it? Like what does that mean
- 1:13:24to imprison an eternal being like infinite power? You know,
- 1:13:28like did they use angel capabilities to imprison it? Probably not,
- 1:13:32because it had to talk to them first.
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: So it's like it's something.
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: Maybe if there's something to be something that isn't an
- 1:13:42angel or like a fallen angel if it was if
- 1:13:44it said it was Gabriel, but it turned out to
- 1:13:46be like, uh, who's Abadon the Demon of the pit
- 1:13:51or whatever, another a powerful demon or something that could
- 1:13:54be interesting, and it used the angel powers to imprison it,
- 1:13:57but humanity thought they had an angel. That could be cool.
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: Yeah, if humanity thought they had an angel. And like also,
- 1:14:03it wasn't trapped, but it was just there on its
- 1:14:05own will and it was feeding stuff to where then
- 1:14:09you could be like, is this like is this good?
- 1:14:12You know what I mean? Like is this a thing
- 1:14:13that we is that you like? This idea of trapping
- 1:14:16something just feels kind of I don't know, it just
- 1:14:19isn't it's not hit me hit me super well or
- 1:14:23even like how An I don't know if you've ever
- 1:14:24seen Evan Galien, but uh, the way that they did,
- 1:14:27the way that they show or the way that they
- 1:14:29like uh basically show angel sometimes is just in human
- 1:14:32form in this one character. It'd be kind of cool
- 1:14:35if it was just one character or it was just
- 1:14:38like one humanoid person that was like a cell or
- 1:14:41something that's like trapped somehow, just to just the back
- 1:14:46and forth. It's just the the the biblically accurate. Angels
- 1:14:48things aren't just they're huge. It's just such a loud thing.
- 1:14:53I don't know. I mean, I'm rambling by this point
- 1:14:55at the end of the day. It's an interesting idea,
- 1:14:57but it just it was a little all over the
- 1:15:00place for me. I like the ideas.
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: I think there was good writing bits in there. I
- 1:15:07think that maybe just workshops some of the way the
- 1:15:11details come out of stuff. Because I liked it, I
- 1:15:13enjoyed it. I thought it was a good read. Maybe
- 1:15:15think of I would want to see more done with it.
- 1:15:17I'd like to see more from this author.
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: So it makes me think of Jacob's Ladder meets Angels
- 1:15:23in the Outfield. So what makes me think of actually
- 1:15:25reminds me of Jacob's.
- 1:15:26Speaker 2: I thought that was going to lean more into that
- 1:15:29side of you know, like he's back in Vietnam, yeah,
- 1:15:33or just like this whole idea of like just you know,
- 1:15:35such a huge thing of faith in the afterlife and
- 1:15:37all that kind of stuff. But it really plays into
- 1:15:41his death in the war and stuff like that. Oh
- 1:15:45in although fun story, also cool to see it come
- 1:15:47from our community. It's tough, a lot of fun.
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you guys so much for watching this week's episode.
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- 1:16:28Speaker 2: And if the Angel Gabriel ever tells you to hurl
- 1:16:31babies into a wall with a slingshot, you know I'm
- 1:16:34not your dad, so do what you want.